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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, August 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football touchdown Jacksonville marks
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, Jackuars, Did you Jack Jack Warris, did
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Speaker 1: you go? Jaguars Drive Time Ryan Sex steps to John
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Speaker 1: o Jas Ashley. Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Jaguars Drive Time, Tuesday morning, live here
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, back in our dungeon. But we are in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: We promised prisoned by du Balmore Company today recapping day
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Speaker 1: one of joint practice with the Ravens and guys. We
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Speaker 1: have stuff to talk about what But it wasn't as
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Speaker 1: a vent, folo. I think as everyone assumes a joint
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Speaker 1: practice would be, well, people want because there's another team there.
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Speaker 1: When you're reading our stuff, when you're listening to it,
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Speaker 1: they want all these exciting match ups and they want
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Speaker 1: to see who won. Uh. Sometimes practices practice and sometimes
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Speaker 1: football practice. As any fan who's been out to the
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Speaker 1: training camp practice, well though, is not that thrilling. I
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Speaker 1: didn't think yesterday was thrilling. Brian, you and I talked
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Speaker 1: a little bit, um. I think a lot of it
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Speaker 1: was the Jaguars had traveled late the night before. There
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Speaker 1: was something you didn't feel like it was particularly energized. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, the good news is even within that, you
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Speaker 1: can still see the offense making strides. You can still
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Speaker 1: see that this is a team that is I think
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Speaker 1: better than the last year. You can see where it's strong.
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't one that you really break down. Well.
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Speaker 1: And here's something else to take in mind. And and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the whole get off my lawn thing here,
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Speaker 1: you know. But the reality of it is is that
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Speaker 1: last week was the dog week of training camp. It
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Speaker 1: was that long first full week. They practiced three times.
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Speaker 1: Well so both teams. You know, you've got a lot
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Speaker 1: of veteran players on both teams, and the leaders of
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Speaker 1: the two teams got together before they went out and
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Speaker 1: agreed to keep things in check, not get tempers flared
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Speaker 1: or have any fighting. And they really I only saw
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Speaker 1: one guy pushing shove on either side. Um, so, I
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Speaker 1: mean it was a muted practice, and you know, you
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Speaker 1: get at this time a training camp, veterans don't want
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Speaker 1: to exert any energy fighting and getting too chippy. I
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Speaker 1: did hear Wink Martindale and yes that's his real name.
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Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator for the Ravens, remarking to a reporter
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Speaker 1: as he walked off the field, Wait till tomorrow. Things
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Speaker 1: will get more interesting Tomorrow. I think you know both
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Speaker 1: teams now that come out after watching the tape and
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Speaker 1: they'll want to perform better for the tape. Um, so
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Speaker 1: I expect today might might be. I'm sure each coach
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Speaker 1: challenge in a little bit. I mean, I think Doug
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Speaker 1: probably looked at it and you know, probably saw the
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Speaker 1: saying that everybody did and say, okay, let's let's give
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Speaker 1: a better effort. I don't expect knockdown, drag out, dust
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Speaker 1: flying blood everywhere but now, but you might get undrafted
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Speaker 1: rookies one from each side that you know are tired of,
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Speaker 1: you know, languishing at the bottom of the depth chart.
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Speaker 1: And think if I swing and my fist connects with
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Speaker 1: his helmet, some coach may decide that I'm tough enough
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Speaker 1: to plug in other words, not use their head right
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Speaker 1: before he might decide, uh, yeah, you're not ready for this.
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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't advise. But I was out to dinner
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Speaker 1: with few friends last night and the first question is
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Speaker 1: were there any fights? Because that's what every want is hockey. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that was a thing. I can remember training camp
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Speaker 1: practices in the nineties that I covered where there was
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Speaker 1: some of that I haven't seen in a long time.
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think a lot of that is
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Speaker 1: dictated by the coach. And everything that Doug has said publicly,
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Speaker 1: which usually jis what he says privately, is that he's
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Speaker 1: really not big on that. It's it's a in in
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Speaker 1: professional football these days. Most coaches don't want that because
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Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. And two thou eight biggest
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Speaker 1: fight in Jaguar's camp, Mo Williams, John Henderson. John was
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Speaker 1: full on crazy that night. Everybody got in the mix
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Speaker 1: and at the end veteran players said to me, just
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Speaker 1: a waste of energy, right, nothing happens the drama and
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Speaker 1: and and and smart players know you only have so
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Speaker 1: much energy to expend during a practice. Don't waste it
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Speaker 1: on that crowd. Alright, let's get right into big things.
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Speaker 1: Big thing one is Day one. The defense a little shaky,
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Speaker 1: but the offense performed well, especially in red zone, wonder
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Speaker 1: print and the wide receivers playing well. Nick Foles recaps
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Speaker 1: today for the offense, so we you know, both sides
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Speaker 1: handled it really well. Um, but I thought offensively, you know,
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Speaker 1: we were were efficient. Um, obviously there's different scenarios. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, working for a second down, third down, UM,
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Speaker 1: red zone and we worked at two point play at
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Speaker 1: the end, so we've got to end a two minute drive,
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Speaker 1: so we would have worked a lot of different situations versa,
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Speaker 1: which was awesome. That brings us right into big Thing two,
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Speaker 1: which is fold mania. Seems to me, wherever this quarterback goes,
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Speaker 1: you hear cheers, people wanting to get autographs from him.
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Speaker 1: He's definitely a big deal, even here in Baltimore. And
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Speaker 1: he spoke about what it's like to finally have the
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Speaker 1: chance to run his own team as a starting quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I think whenever you get to, you know, run an
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Speaker 1: offense that you really enjoy, and you need to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of saying, um, you know what quarterback wouldn't
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Speaker 1: love that, But you know it's really just about the
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Speaker 1: people that you get to do it with. And you know,
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Speaker 1: this team has really been bonding. Um every single day,
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Speaker 1: we're getting closer and closer. And anytime you can go
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Speaker 1: away from your city, UM on a trip and you're practice, sing,
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Speaker 1: you're playing a preseason game, UM, it just brings you
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Speaker 1: closer together. And big thing three is better days where
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Speaker 1: the offense shine. The defense had some trouble. The defensive
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Speaker 1: line played well against the Raymond's offensive line, but secondary
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Speaker 1: definitely could have played better. Jalen Ramsey, for sure, we'll
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Speaker 1: be the one to tell you better days for the
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Speaker 1: defense today. We hope guys, I would think it will be.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think what stayed out to me more
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Speaker 1: than anything was Leonard four Nett looks like he is
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Speaker 1: going to be really involved in the passing game. I
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Speaker 1: thought he had a great practice yesterday, So I think
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Speaker 1: that sort of overshadowed whatever the defense didn't do. Um. Again,
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Speaker 1: I think some of it with the defense is you've
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Speaker 1: got boy a down. Um. So other guys are playing
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Speaker 1: without a doubt. More so that that wears the legs
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Even if they don't hit, even if
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Speaker 1: it's not that kind of practice like it used to be,
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Speaker 1: the legs still right an a little bit. So it's
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Speaker 1: not surprising that the defensive backs are a little pluggish.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's drill down there a little bit. Because the
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Speaker 1: the back seven may not have played all that well.
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Speaker 1: There were some injuries at the linebacking corps and the
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Speaker 1: secondary didn't play very well, but the front four, especially
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Speaker 1: in the one on one pass rushing drills, really looked good.
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Speaker 1: Calais is as you would expect. Now, he didn't get
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Speaker 1: that many reps, but the few he did, it was
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Speaker 1: clear that the Ravens offensive lineman who had to face
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Speaker 1: him is like good luck broke right. Um. Marcel Darius,
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Speaker 1: who Doug Brown has talked about since the off season,
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Speaker 1: had a very good one on one pass restaurant. I
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Speaker 1: mean just showed you his best stuff. When he decides
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Speaker 1: to play, he is. He's so good. People at the
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Speaker 1: end of the year were gonna say, why are we
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Speaker 1: letting him go? Um? And then the third guy was
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Speaker 1: well up to other guys. Um, you make away look fast,
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Speaker 1: which no surprise, he's wicked fast, as they say after
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Speaker 1: these parts. And Josh Allen, I'm telling you the kid
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Speaker 1: is a prototypical pass rusher six five six five, got big,
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Speaker 1: long frame and he knows how to use it. He's
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Speaker 1: got a couple of different pass rush moves. He's not
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Speaker 1: like a lot of rookies who come in and they
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Speaker 1: rely on one or two things, right. He's got an arsenal.
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Speaker 1: He's also got the physical skills, the lean, the body, control,
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Speaker 1: the explosion to be able to use them. He was
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Speaker 1: so disruptive yesterday, especially in nine on seven pass um.
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Speaker 1: I wish that that is something that we could televise
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Speaker 1: to people, because when they see this, they would realize
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Speaker 1: the Jags got lucky that he fell to seven. It
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Speaker 1: was a turn of fate for them. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 1: think the encouraging, the really encouraging thing with Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: is when you watch him, you get the idea that
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Speaker 1: he's not even exploding or playing as fast as he could.
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Speaker 1: He's still a rookie. Uh, He's still coming a little
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Speaker 1: off of the knee injury um or or the knee bruise,
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Speaker 1: which you get the idea that maybe there's a little
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Speaker 1: cost in there. Maybe it's just okay, I'm gonna see
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Speaker 1: how this goes. I don't get the idea that he's
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Speaker 1: playing as explosively as he could. But what you do
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Speaker 1: see is, as you said, Bryan, a lot of rookies
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Speaker 1: come in and people underestimate how much of pass rush
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Speaker 1: and defensive line play is technique. Guys, you don't have technique.
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Speaker 1: It's rare for a guy without technique to ascend and
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Speaker 1: be really really good. Josh Allen looks like he already
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Speaker 1: has some technique. He'll only get more. So so far,
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Speaker 1: I see no reason why this kid is not going
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Speaker 1: to live up the top seven drafting Great receivers create
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Speaker 1: separation for the line of scrimmage with their feet, right.
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Speaker 1: They use their hands in art, but their feet same thing.
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Speaker 1: Great pass rushers win with their hands. Guys who are
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Speaker 1: just average watched want smooth, just average, right, watch his hands,
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Speaker 1: just average. See a guy like unique, See a guy
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, watch his hands expert expert hands for sure.
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Speaker 1: Going back to big thing one with the offense, one
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Speaker 1: thing that was evident is that Leonard front is definitely
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Speaker 1: going to be involved in the passing game. And he
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Speaker 1: a great day yesterday with the passing. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: I wrote this in the Ozone a few weeks back,
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Speaker 1: and I had some fans sort of right, I'll believe
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Speaker 1: Leonard for Net is going to be a factor in
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Speaker 1: the passing game when I see it. Well, he was
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Speaker 1: a factor of the last two years, not a huge factor,
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Speaker 1: not Christian McCaffrey factor. But when you get him outside
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Speaker 1: on a linebacker. Uh, look out, because he's got the
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Speaker 1: physical matchup, he's got the speed, the size. What he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have when he's on the interior when he's running yet,
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Speaker 1: is a lot of missibility. Well, when you're on the outside,
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Speaker 1: you don't need quite as much because you're one on
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Speaker 1: one with the guy. So he has shown that already.
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Speaker 1: He has been effective in that role. I thought yesterday
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Speaker 1: he really showed where this is going. And uh, I
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna he might wind up being as good
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Speaker 1: a weapon for them there as he is in the backfield.
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Speaker 1: Forget last year for just a second, just looking at him,
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Speaker 1: is he not your best offensive weapon? I mean, you
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Speaker 1: could make a case for D. D. Westbrooks. And when
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Speaker 1: you look at the size, the speed, all the things
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Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. He's a fourth overall
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Speaker 1: pick for goodness takes. The answer should be yes. And
10:07
Speaker 1: so what John D. Philippo is he's trying to do.
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Speaker 1: You don't want his pound pound pound. And if you
10:13
Speaker 1: go back to last season when he was effective and
10:17
Speaker 1: even his rookie year, he was running downhill in the
10:20
Speaker 1: screen game, he is the two blockers out in front
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Speaker 1: of him. He doesn't have missabilities. So if he's got
10:25
Speaker 1: an ability to choose one side or the other, he
10:27
Speaker 1: generally chose the right side in the screen game. Um,
10:30
Speaker 1: they're just gonna show different wheel routes, I think, with
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Speaker 1: him in different ways to get him open with misdirection.
10:35
Speaker 1: Now here's the interesting part. You've got to have a D. D.
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Speaker 1: Westbrook on the field. At the same time, you gotta
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Speaker 1: have somebody that takes the safety and says, I'm worried
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Speaker 1: about him, I'm not worried about the guy in the backfield.
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Speaker 1: So they all have to work in concert. But if
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Speaker 1: for Net is not a part of the passing game,
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Speaker 1: then something is really wrong because he's not. If he's
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Speaker 1: not the best offensive player you have outside of the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: He's real close, Nick Foles mentioned his press conference yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Whatever they do, they want to get the ball to
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Speaker 1: him as much as possible, passing, running handoff. When the
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Speaker 1: drafted him, Tom Coughlin said, we got you to score touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: And that's what he does. That's what he has if
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Speaker 1: for whatever else he hasn't been, he has been a
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Speaker 1: guy who score touchdowns. I think he's got what fourteen
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Speaker 1: into which considering he's played, Uh, about twenty games. It's
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Speaker 1: pretty good ratio. I'm not trying to change. I think
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Speaker 1: one season games fifteen touchdowns, so he can do that.
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Speaker 1: Um Again, I don't know that he's going to be
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Speaker 1: missibility guy inside the tackles. Uh. And if he is that, great,
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Speaker 1: it's gravy. But if the team can accept that and say, okay,
11:41
Speaker 1: how else can we get it and then get the
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Speaker 1: pat he's a guy I think who if they could
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Speaker 1: be a team that is that established at the past
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Speaker 1: and gets things opened up, then he could be dangerous
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Speaker 1: if he's not having to make somebody miss write the
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Speaker 1: line of scramming. In the nineties, there was a running back.
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Speaker 1: You'll remember his name. Probably no one else who's watching
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Speaker 1: will You'll be like, who Larry Centers Larry. He was
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Speaker 1: the first running back in the league. You just say, yep,
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Speaker 1: you remember him, and I said yep, exactly, first running
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Speaker 1: back in the league history to have a hundred catches
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Speaker 1: out of the backfield and back to back years. As
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Speaker 1: a runner he was just his average as average gets.
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Speaker 1: But as a receiver he had and again he wasn't
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Speaker 1: a sleek weapon, but he was a guy that just
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Speaker 1: he understood angles and leverage and how to get the
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Speaker 1: most out of every catch, and so he was used
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Speaker 1: very effectively by the Cardinals as a weapon. When I
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Speaker 1: watched Leonard four Nette, I see the same guy who
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Speaker 1: can He's got enough understanding of what he does well,
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Speaker 1: the missibility in between the tackles goes away. If he's
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Speaker 1: that effective in the passing game. I think for Net overall,
12:40
Speaker 1: for people who do remember Larry Centers, I think for
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Speaker 1: Net can be a better hand the ball to him. Guy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no doubt, but I see your point. I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: I watch a guy and I don't want to get
12:51
Speaker 1: ridiculous and say, you know, this is a uh the
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Speaker 1: kid in Carolina, Christian McCaffrey, he's not that. But Larry
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Speaker 1: Center set league wreck words and this guy can be both.
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Speaker 1: back to Jack's Drive Time, Live at the Team Hotel
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, getting ready for day two of joint practice
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Speaker 1: with the Ravens. Then now it's time for some ozone snapshot?
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Speaker 1: Are you ready? John Oh? I was born ready. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know you were thinking of this the music. I
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Speaker 1: never thought i'd say that, but it just kind of
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Speaker 1: gets it going. Yeah, all right. Mason from Palm Bay.
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Speaker 1: I asked back in May if the drafting of Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen would impact the contract, offered a yawn, and you
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Speaker 1: said it wouldn't. It's kind of hard to believe that
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Speaker 1: it isn't something muddying the waters. Well, this is sort
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Speaker 1: of a two pronged answer. I don't think it's impacted
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Speaker 1: it yet because I think the Jaguars have offered what
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Speaker 1: to unique and got way what they believe is a
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Speaker 1: fair offer. I don't think that that offer would be
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Speaker 1: substantially different if they hadn't dropped, if they hadn't drafted, drafted,
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Speaker 1: they hadn't drafted Josh Allen. Because I think they have
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Speaker 1: a certain amount that they want to pay right now. Now,
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Speaker 1: the NFL does not happen in a vacuum as they
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Speaker 1: go forward from this now. As if Unique does not
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Speaker 1: sign a long term deal before the season and you
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Speaker 1: start seeing how Josh Allen plays and that starts moving
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Speaker 1: forward by next season, it could muddy the waters in
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Speaker 1: terms of Okay, we have this, now, what are we
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Speaker 1: going to pay this again. I don't think that it's
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Speaker 1: change it very much yet because I think right now
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Speaker 1: they're talking about what do we need for the next
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Speaker 1: couple of years. But as it goes for I think
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Speaker 1: it will change. Say and I I said it in
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Speaker 1: the last segment that it was a blessing for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars for Josh Allen to fall to them at seven,
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Speaker 1: not just because of the kind of football player, but
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Speaker 1: because they now aren't going to be held hostage by
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher who weighs two and thirty five pounds.
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Speaker 1: You can't do that, and so for them, absolutely, Mason,
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Speaker 1: you're right right now, the Jaguars don't have to go crazy.
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Speaker 1: The leverage went all on their side of the line.
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Speaker 1: They already had it because he's in the fourth year
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Speaker 1: his deal, because they have the franchise tag. But now
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Speaker 1: they don't have to think, well, we're not gonna have
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher, and teams get panicked when they don't
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Speaker 1: have pass rushers. I think that panic would become a
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Speaker 1: lot greater after this season. It wouldn't be panic now anyway,
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Speaker 1: because they're going to have him. Good to have it there,
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Speaker 1: You're right, but it but it doesn't. He's on the
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Speaker 1: roster muddies it up a lot as you go forward.
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Speaker 1: It gives them so much more leverage. And I've said
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Speaker 1: it before, don't make a market setting contract with this guy.
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Speaker 1: He is a fantastic pass rusher. But if you do that,
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Speaker 1: the costs in the future players you can't retain. It
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Speaker 1: gets ridiculous. I've seen the Jaguars do this before, look
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Speaker 1: back to we won't even go there. Don't make that
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Speaker 1: mistake the Jaguars when he was there, when Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: was sitting there at number seven, they were given a
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Speaker 1: gift of a player and a gift of a roster
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Speaker 1: lever that they wouldn't have had otherwise. Now here's my question.
17:55
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to stir drama, but I was reading
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Speaker 1: on Twitter a couple of days ago A fan tweeted
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Speaker 1: out it on saying why don't you take the contract
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars offered, and he tweeted back, don't believe everything
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Speaker 1: you hear? What could that mean? Could that false report?
18:08
Speaker 1: Could that be the numbers aren't correct? The numbers right
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Speaker 1: now the reports in the gist out there right now
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Speaker 1: is that they were about a million apart. I am
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Speaker 1: sure that the number that's out there that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: offered is probably a little less. The number out there
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Speaker 1: the yamt accepted is probably a little less than that.
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Speaker 1: That think they're further apart on both ends than maybe
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Speaker 1: it was reported. Uh or structure matters obviously too. He
18:34
Speaker 1: wants guaranteed money for sure. He wants guaranteed money. Um.
18:38
Speaker 1: It's worth noting that even though I wouldn't pay him
18:41
Speaker 1: because I don't fundamentally believe in paying just a pass rusher,
18:45
Speaker 1: especially not when I've got Josh Allen, who's a complete
18:48
Speaker 1: every downs pass rusher, it doesn't mean someone shouldn't or
18:51
Speaker 1: someone won't someone that has more flexibility with their salary cap.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying for the Jaguars situation, they shouldn't do it,
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Speaker 1: but someone else will know someone else absolute money. Why not?
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Speaker 1: And hey, I have no problem with him holding out
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Speaker 1: What unit surprised yesterday? Good or bad? Well? I think
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Speaker 1: Leonard Fernett surprised me a little bit necessarily yesterday in
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Speaker 1: the big picture, O we're all during training camp. I
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Speaker 1: am a little surprised that the passing game receiving stuff
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Speaker 1: looks as smooth and is in with him as it does.
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Speaker 1: I think he's looked really good at it. I thought
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Speaker 1: he looked better in red zone than he had so far,
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Speaker 1: but that's probably because they hadn't run a lot of
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Speaker 1: goal line so far. He excels in that situation. Um,
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Speaker 1: so maybe not a surprise made I gray answered this question,
22:25
Speaker 1: but I think he stood out and it the fact
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Speaker 1: that it appears that they are getting better and better
22:32
Speaker 1: and more comfortable with the package they can they can
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Speaker 1: make him effective. I thought it was a story today yesterday.
22:37
Speaker 1: I'll take the negative side of it, the secondary, um,
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Speaker 1: because I didn't think that the Jaguars secondary would be
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Speaker 1: challenged by Lamar Jackson. He's not an accomplished pastor at
22:46
Speaker 1: this point. To talk to people yesterday and to read
22:49
Speaker 1: the stories from the first days of camp, he's a
22:51
Speaker 1: long way from being an NFL caliber arm. Not that
22:54
Speaker 1: he can't get there right, but he's not accurate on
22:57
Speaker 1: the deep ball. He really only throws the eight to
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Speaker 1: twelve very well UM, and I thought the Jaguar secondary
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Speaker 1: made him look really good yesterday. So I was surprised
23:06
Speaker 1: by Let's clarify something on Lamory Jackson. My theory anyway
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Speaker 1: is um eight to twelve, eight to fifteen is about
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Speaker 1: what he does. That's a little trickier to stop in
23:16
Speaker 1: practice when you're not hitting. The way you stop that
23:20
Speaker 1: sort of attack in games is to blast the receivers.
23:24
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that as much, so that becomes
23:26
Speaker 1: a little more comfortable if that's what you're running. So
23:29
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of benefit of the doubt for
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Speaker 1: the jag was he was effective beyond that. What I'm
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Speaker 1: saying is he looked really good in that, but he
23:37
Speaker 1: he hit some downfield balls that I honestly, based on
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Speaker 1: what I had heard, I didn't expect him to be
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Speaker 1: able to do the secondary had a bad day. Jalen
23:45
Speaker 1: Ramsey did not have a good practice. All right, you're entitled,
23:48
Speaker 1: You're titled good practice practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The look
23:53
Speaker 1: in Jalen's eyes he walked off the field said it
23:55
Speaker 1: will be better today. He'll be a featured performer today.
23:58
Speaker 1: Speaking briefly on the Ravens, I didn't really know much
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Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, but I heard some negative things and
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Speaker 1: talking to the staff at the raven especially the PR staff,
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Speaker 1: they were just dumbfounded with how great of a person
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Speaker 1: he is, how easy is to deal with, and they
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Speaker 1: were talking about the similarities of foals, about the leadership
24:14
Speaker 1: for a young guy to have, that's pretty impressive. So
24:16
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him play on Thursday. I I
24:19
Speaker 1: I only know that when we were in Nashville for
24:21
Speaker 1: the draft, I heard horror stories about Lamar Jackson and
24:25
Speaker 1: his mother, who was very controlling because they didn't and
24:28
Speaker 1: and I say that, and teams say horror stories. The
24:31
Speaker 1: Jackson's were trying to make sure that he was not
24:33
Speaker 1: drafted as anything other than a quarterback. Remember there were
24:35
Speaker 1: teams that asked him to work out as a wide
24:37
Speaker 1: receiver and you know, an athlete, that whole thing, and
24:40
Speaker 1: they were absolutely dead set that was not going to happen.
24:43
Speaker 1: And you can understand why quarterbacks get paid, right, and
24:46
Speaker 1: this guy has physical attributes that make you say he
24:50
Speaker 1: will get paid some day. But he was a pain
24:52
Speaker 1: to deal with. You didn't talk to him unless his
24:53
Speaker 1: mother said yes, you can talk to him. Personal experienced
24:57
Speaker 1: you her mother around all the time. You'd probably ben't patented.
25:01
Speaker 1: Good to hear that. That's that's not the story, all right.
25:04
Speaker 1: Ashley asked number two who what individual you briefly mentioned
25:08
Speaker 1: needs to have a better day to day? Well, I'll
25:12
Speaker 1: te you if Jalen ramsay, Obviously that's too easy, So
25:15
Speaker 1: ahead and give him something else, and you take Jaln
25:17
Speaker 1: I'll come with someone else. I'll go with the second here.
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Speaker 1: You'd like to see him have a better day, I
25:21
Speaker 1: think they will. Uh, that's certainly an area that keep
25:27
Speaker 1: it in perspective. I don't worry about that area long term.
25:30
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they're not better today. I'll go
25:32
Speaker 1: with the interior offensive line. Brandon Williams is probably the
25:35
Speaker 1: Ravens best defensive lineman. He's a short, squat quick, he's
25:40
Speaker 1: he's built a lot like uh not Marcel Darius and
25:44
Speaker 1: and he gave them fits inside yesterday. Now he's a
25:46
Speaker 1: really good player, and he should give good players fits.
25:51
Speaker 1: I would like to see Norwell Linder and can handle
25:53
Speaker 1: him better today in the one on one situations. All right,
25:56
Speaker 1: and finally, what matchup are you keeping an eye on.
25:59
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on the ig Wars receivers versus
26:01
Speaker 1: the raven secondary because I still believe that that's the
26:06
Speaker 1: major story offensively for the Jaguars. You like what you've
26:10
Speaker 1: seen in the seven or eight days so far in camp.
26:13
Speaker 1: You want to see that continuing to be something you
26:15
Speaker 1: can count on. To me, Brian, if they go into
26:19
Speaker 1: the season and are better there than national people think,
26:23
Speaker 1: if they're as good as they think they're becoming, then
26:25
Speaker 1: I think that changes the entire dynamic with this offense
26:28
Speaker 1: can become. It sure does. Talking to John D. Philippo
26:31
Speaker 1: in the spring, he didn't want to come up. You're
26:33
Speaker 1: enough to pound pound pound. It got him fired in Minnesota.
26:37
Speaker 1: That's not his philosophy. He wants to spread things out.
26:40
Speaker 1: Remember the first two years with for Net, when he
26:43
Speaker 1: was good or when he wasn't good, you have to
26:45
Speaker 1: credit him. He was facing eight man fronts and defenses
26:48
Speaker 1: that were all eleven loaded towards him. And he's he
26:53
Speaker 1: he's a special player. Okay. I don't know whether he's
26:56
Speaker 1: the elite, don't know whether he's game defining, but he's
26:59
Speaker 1: a guy was special special activists. It's probably the best
27:01
Speaker 1: way to say it. So from that perspective, if they
27:04
Speaker 1: can get the production from the receivers and open things up,
27:07
Speaker 1: you could have a snowball effect. They could go from
27:09
Speaker 1: being a little bit better to a lot better in
27:11
Speaker 1: a hurry. Um two matchups that I'm watching. One is
27:15
Speaker 1: and I'm all in on Josh Allen right now. So
27:17
Speaker 1: I'm watching him against Ronnie Stanley, the Ravens left tackle
27:21
Speaker 1: who was a first round pick from Notre Dame, who
27:24
Speaker 1: is long, um, big bodied guy. He's built a little
27:28
Speaker 1: bit like Pselli when you look at him. He's not
27:31
Speaker 1: the athlete that Possely is, but it's a heck of
27:32
Speaker 1: a matchup for Josh. So if he comes out of
27:34
Speaker 1: here with some success against Ronnie Stanley, I think he
27:37
Speaker 1: gives him something that he can really build on and
27:39
Speaker 1: the other and this isn't a one to one all
27:41
Speaker 1: the time, Miles Jack and Mark Ingram. Ingram, remember the
27:44
Speaker 1: former Heisman Trophy winner from Alabama, came in free agency
27:48
Speaker 1: from New Orleans and had a pretty good day yesterday.
27:52
Speaker 1: And there were a couple of times where Miles either
27:54
Speaker 1: got caught up in the wash or didn't read the
27:57
Speaker 1: whole effectively and overpursued and in a maiden pay for it.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that particular drill today to see that
28:04
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Speaker 1: blitz coming up later on this afternoon, and off the
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Speaker 1: Thursday game day. Guys, here we go pretty crazy that
30:17
Speaker 1: it's already here. Yeah, preseason week one fast these days. Well,
30:21
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. And when we know this because
30:23
Speaker 1: we've done this and you have for a couple of
30:25
Speaker 1: years now too. There we're a long way from the
30:27
Speaker 1: start of the regular season. I mean we are a
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Speaker 1: full five weeks away from the start of this and
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Speaker 1: how many days it is. But when you look at
30:34
Speaker 1: the other preseason and and and Labor Day week and
30:37
Speaker 1: leading up to it, there's a lot of work that
30:39
Speaker 1: has to get done. So a lot of times when
30:41
Speaker 1: you hear a coach we gotta get better now, we
30:42
Speaker 1: got a chance to get better today, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
30:44
Speaker 1: it's coach talk enough, But in this case, in particular,
30:48
Speaker 1: when Doug is saying that, he really means it that there.
30:51
Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys we could go through
30:52
Speaker 1: a checklist. You gotta get better at at strong side
30:55
Speaker 1: backer without Quincy Williams until who knows when a tight end.
30:58
Speaker 1: We gotta get better here, and here's a Swayne, you
31:00
Speaker 1: gotta step up. Today is a really valuable opportunity for
31:04
Speaker 1: this team to have a good day so that they
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Speaker 1: can take it into the meeting rooms tonight. Hopefully it
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Speaker 1: translates to the pregame field in the preseason game on
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Speaker 1: Thursday night, and then back to Jacksonville for Saturday and
31:16
Speaker 1: Sunday's practice. They have to get better. We all have
31:19
Speaker 1: expectations of this team this year that they will be
31:22
Speaker 1: markedly better, that they'll be in competition in November and December.
31:25
Speaker 1: They got a long way to go to be ready
31:27
Speaker 1: for it. And the offensive line is included in that. Um.
31:32
Speaker 1: I thought yesterday Brian Juan Taylor worked more with the starters.
31:34
Speaker 1: That's a major story we haven't he had so far.
31:37
Speaker 1: And uh so, now I don't know that he will
31:40
Speaker 1: start in the game. I don't know that you know,
31:43
Speaker 1: but he's clearly going to be the starter. So now
31:45
Speaker 1: you've got four and now the or the watch will
31:49
Speaker 1: start on camera Robinson, which I think will still happen, uh,
31:52
Speaker 1: either before after Philadelphia, right around that game. So yeah,
31:56
Speaker 1: and we talked about this and I thought that this
31:59
Speaker 1: coming off this week, depending on his progress, We and
32:01
Speaker 1: Doug's gonna update us today maybe or tomorrow. I'll talk
32:07
Speaker 1: to Doug tomorrow night for the pregame production meeting for
32:09
Speaker 1: the broadcast. UM. I thought this is the opportune time
32:12
Speaker 1: to pull him off and pop and let him start practicing,
32:15
Speaker 1: even in a limited fashion. I heard him telling some friends,
32:18
Speaker 1: some former Alabama guys yesterday that he was doing really well.
32:21
Speaker 1: That's a good sign, you know, his idea of really well,
32:23
Speaker 1: and the training staff's idea really well. You know somewhere
32:26
Speaker 1: they've got a meet in the middle. But it was
32:28
Speaker 1: a good sign that he was so optimistic with former teammates.
32:30
Speaker 1: What did you say, there's still a month you get
32:33
Speaker 1: him back now start working back. So there's still but
32:37
Speaker 1: it has to start relatively sent And just the league
32:42
Speaker 1: did that study about when guys who are coming off
32:44
Speaker 1: of injuries tend to reinjure them in training camp and
32:47
Speaker 1: it's the first seven to ten days, and I don't
32:50
Speaker 1: know for sure but I can't help but think that
32:52
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at that and said no reason to speat
32:54
Speaker 1: it up. I do the Jowan Taylor going into the
32:58
Speaker 1: starting lineup. He was there from the first snap yesterday,
33:01
Speaker 1: worked with the ones, worked against the best pass rushers. Um,
33:04
Speaker 1: why why not let's go He I think, my opinion,
33:08
Speaker 1: mark it down right now, is your best offensive lineman.
33:12
Speaker 1: He is the most talented that he may not be,
33:14
Speaker 1: the most experience he's not, uh, and the most knowledgeable
33:17
Speaker 1: he's not, But in terms of overall ability, he is
33:20
Speaker 1: the best you have right now. Cam Robinson, if he's healthy,
33:23
Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite the same player that the Taylor's.
33:27
Speaker 1: I think Taylor is a guy who even though they
33:29
Speaker 1: were drafted around the same spot, I just think Taylor's better,
33:31
Speaker 1: Which makes sense because for a time Juan Taylor, had
33:34
Speaker 1: he been a left tackle instead of a right tackle,
33:36
Speaker 1: position value probably knocked him down more than how good
33:40
Speaker 1: he is at his position, if that makes anything. So
33:43
Speaker 1: for a right tackle, he looks like he he fits
33:46
Speaker 1: the bill perfect and he has a long way to go.
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33:50
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