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Detroit Tigers All-Star Case: Dillon Dingler · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Paluel Territory Network, a Detroit Tiger's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Karen Steckley with.
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  Speaker 1: Me as always a man who is still celebrating Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Swift owning her masters.
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  Speaker 3: I want the reputation re release, Karen, Come on, that
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  Speaker 3: gives the people something.
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  Speaker 1: You're never satisfied, Your Swifties are never satisfied. Well, look
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  Speaker 1: like the reason I kind of brought that up. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't got a chance to bring it up since
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  Speaker 1: the big news, uh Number two is that it does
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  Speaker 1: for the Swifties out there, make everything kind of whole again, right,
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  Speaker 1: and now the Tigers are whole again and except in
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  Speaker 1: so many ways, in so many ways, you know, Matt
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  Speaker 1: verver Lean is the reputation of the Tiger.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there we go, there we go, bring it all
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  Speaker 3: the way around.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, little little programming note, we're recording this actually during
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  Speaker 1: the Game two of the White Sox Tigers series. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do things a little bit differently with this midweek podcast,
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  Speaker 1: kind of try something now. So if there's something crazy
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  Speaker 1: that happens, or you are interested in what we think
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  Speaker 1: about X, we'll get to that in the episode that
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  Speaker 1: will publish Friday. Just wanted to shake things up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and try something new and see if you
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  Speaker 1: guys like it.
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  Speaker 3: So it's All Star season. We're gonna be making some
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  Speaker 3: All Star cases, and the Tigers, for the first time
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  Speaker 3: in a very long time, have quite a few contenders.
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  Speaker 1: Quite a few strong ones, and we'll get to one
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  Speaker 1: quite noteworthy one a little bit later. But for the
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  Speaker 1: wholesome element here, there's the Parker Meadows, you know, season
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  Speaker 1: debut and Carrie Carpenter hitting three home runs on in
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  Speaker 1: Monday's game, a game that you know went about as
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  Speaker 1: you would expect there. So the Parker thing, I'll just
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  Speaker 1: say that off the top. You know it, you remember it,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something to just.
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  Speaker 2: See in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's just it just is so much fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch. He wastes zero time he gets on base,
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  Speaker 1: he has a couple extra base hits, uh, stolen base,
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  Speaker 1: diving catch in the outfield, three runs scored.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, if it was honestly one.
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  Speaker 1: Of those things was like is is are the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: like more dangerous? Like they just won their fortieth game
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  Speaker 1: of the season on Monday, They're more dangerous, like arguably
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  Speaker 1: their most exciting and kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Completes the team.
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  Speaker 1: Guy is now back and looks like he's looks like
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  Speaker 1: he's you know, opening day, fresh off tearing up in
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  Speaker 1: spring training. And then Carry Carpenter something we had not
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  Speaker 1: kind of gotten to was, you know, didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: most lucrative of maze. And I told my wife for
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  Speaker 1: the game, I was like, yeah, I mean, Carrie, you
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  Speaker 1: know this that the other thing with what he did
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  Speaker 1: in May, and it's like pop pop pop, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and going for the fourth throne run, which would have
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  Speaker 1: been really cool. No, a terribly long list of guys
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  Speaker 1: in Tiger's history who have hit three in one game.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess the kind of the fun way to
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  Speaker 1: go about this here, Cody is like, what's the more
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  Speaker 1: noteworthy or more important with all those things I just
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  Speaker 1: laid out there. The Parker medals returned and the way
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  Speaker 1: he returned, and Carrie Carpenter kind of getting off the
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  Speaker 1: power schneid a little bit to start June.
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  Speaker 3: The most important thing is easily, if Parker medals returning,
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  Speaker 3: we all know Carrie Carpenter, Carrie Bonds can hit for power.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe an occasional little trout, but that's there.
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  Speaker 3: That's not going to change anytime soon. This team is
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  Speaker 3: somehow has the best record in baseball without Parker Meadows
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  Speaker 3: until right now. Parker Meadows we all know is important
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  Speaker 3: to the team, And like you said, just seeing it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of a reminder of like just how important
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  Speaker 3: he is. I know AJ Hinch had probably been kind
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  Speaker 3: of debating, like do you plug carry, excuse me, Parker
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  Speaker 3: back into the leadoff spot right away, or do you
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  Speaker 3: maybe hold on to that see how he's see how
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  Speaker 3: he's doing, especially with his successful as carry Carpenter had
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  Speaker 3: been in the leadoff spot and some of the pressure
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  Speaker 3: that was continuing to put on opposing managers. AJ Letoff,
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  Speaker 3: carry right away or excuse me, Parker Letoff Parker right away.
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  Speaker 3: And he looked like a leadoff spark plug. He's not
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  Speaker 3: necessarily the typical leadoff guy just because he's fast. He's
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  Speaker 3: also got some pop in that bat. And then you
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  Speaker 3: start thinking about how the rest of this lineup looks
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  Speaker 3: at Labor and the two hole. You want to bring
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  Speaker 3: in a lefty to face Parker and Carrie, Well, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to get past Labor then you still run
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  Speaker 3: the risk of a pinch hit for Carrie. If AJ
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  Speaker 3: wants to do that, you can start going two, three, four, five.
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  Speaker 3: Suddenly you have the look of like a very potent order,
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  Speaker 3: like a legitimate run producing order, with some real bats
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  Speaker 3: kind of squeezed in the middle there and a true
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  Speaker 3: table setter up top. So we'll see if Parker Meadows
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  Speaker 3: continues to make baseball jumping back into the majors looking
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  Speaker 3: dd as he did the first game back. But I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was important significant somehow there's still a higher
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  Speaker 3: ceiling for this team that has played so well.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and also there's an element of Parker being there
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  Speaker 1: is also the bet is also the beneficiary of carry Carpenter,
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  Speaker 1: So like everyone kind of fits more in place. You
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  Speaker 1: look at the lineup Monday and Tuesday and it did
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  Speaker 1: feel like a more wholesome, like this is a Tigers
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  Speaker 1: team lineup construction that we had, you know, anticipated and
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  Speaker 1: not been able to see up until this point. So
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  Speaker 1: like instant impact, you could argue it's kind of it's
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of Parker's thing.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Parker friend of the podcast had him
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  Speaker 1: on this offseason. He was great with him and Austin
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  Speaker 1: talking ball. He when he came back up and he
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  Speaker 1: immediately heard his hamstring, Like what did he do? He
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  Speaker 1: did it sliding in the second base. That's like making
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  Speaker 1: a play, right if memory serves over there in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 1: he comes back from the hamstring and that's when the tear,
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  Speaker 1: like is on a tear, you know. And then you
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  Speaker 1: have the home run against the Astros in Game two,
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  Speaker 1: and like all this stuff is like he is kind
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  Speaker 1: of like instant like if like if he was a
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  Speaker 1: basketball player, you call it instant offense, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. But he's like instant impact just just by
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  Speaker 1: being there. And again you know it, you remember it,
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  Speaker 1: but to see it just like right, there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun. And then and then Carrie like he's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that he'll he'll take any role, like obviously
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  Speaker 1: like the team player stuff and everything. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we all like like the idea of him in the
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  Speaker 1: middle order, uh more. And maybe maybe it's just that
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  Speaker 1: simple thing man, some like he did it. The numbers
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  Speaker 1: are what they are, But at the same time, like
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  Speaker 1: some guys might just be better watching a couple of
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  Speaker 1: pitchers go after a couple of hitters. And then and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, being able to attack from there. We'll see,
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  Speaker 1: but it did, like I said, feel like a more
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  Speaker 1: wholesome element to the Tigers. And then also, you know,
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  Speaker 1: seeing Hobby Baia's back at shortstop, it was you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's just like a lot of a lot of aesthetics
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  Speaker 1: there that were kind of a throwback element of the team.
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  Speaker 2: But in a way still we're not. It's still new.
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  Speaker 1: Like as much as we talk about the Tigers having
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  Speaker 1: the best records since you know August, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 1: tenth or you know whatever, that stat is eleventh. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this cound struct and like they're doing all the same things.
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  Speaker 1: This construction is still relatively new because you know, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the virlink piece, Hobby being a part of it,
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  Speaker 1: torqu being you know, Torque a part of it. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're I think in terms of ceiling and upside where
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  Speaker 1: I think there's still some scratching going on.
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  Speaker 3: Well there could be. There are also gonna be some
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  Speaker 3: things to sort out. Namely, I think they're based how
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  Speaker 3: much is Hobby playing, where's he playing Tray Sweeney who's
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  Speaker 3: kind of cooled off again? You know, how far are
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  Speaker 3: you going to force that? Would you actually seek an
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  Speaker 3: impact well, trade deadline upgrade. You know, the Boba Schett
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  Speaker 3: name keeps getting thrown out there, and a couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago, I was like, I don't know if it
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  Speaker 3: makes sense anymore. And now I'm at Virlin's hurt again
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  Speaker 3: and Tray Sweeney's cooled off, and it's like, you can
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  Speaker 3: talk yourself right back into that all over again. These
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  Speaker 3: are gonna be some of the big questions I think
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  Speaker 3: are answered over the next month plus. Things are good,
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  Speaker 3: you feel very good about everything, but there's still there's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be some sorting out to do. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: that's all again, assuming you kind of stay this level
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  Speaker 3: of complete and you don't have any other major injuries
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  Speaker 3: to speak up.
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  Speaker 2: Any any thoughts on Jay Hen being the guy.
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  Speaker 3: That in Okay, In a way, it kind of sucks
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  Speaker 3: because I like Jahn and I liked what he could
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  Speaker 3: bring to the team, but it ultimately made sense. I
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  Speaker 3: think it was the right call. I'm not really sure
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  Speaker 3: there was a close second. In terms of the construction
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  Speaker 3: of the team. Jayhen was the one guy really just
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  Speaker 3: not playing very often that was making it hard for
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  Speaker 3: him to get in a rhythm. He still did some
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  Speaker 3: nice things never really got going. But you look, he
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  Speaker 3: still had i think at three forty plus one base percentage,
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  Speaker 3: but they're more in that bat and he probably needs
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  Speaker 3: more consistent at bats for us to see that. It
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  Speaker 3: is kind of interesting, just like, what's his future? How
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  Speaker 3: is he ever going to get those consistent at bats
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  Speaker 3: barring injuries to other players. Even on a team that
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of injuries, he wasn't getting every day
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  Speaker 3: at bats. That's a little bit of a question that
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  Speaker 3: is going to hang in the air. But in a way,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't play a ton in the field, but I
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  Speaker 3: think looked improved. Yeah, I don't know, makes you wonder,
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  Speaker 3: It makes you wonder what it will be like maybe
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  Speaker 3: the next time we see JN. I do think we'll
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  Speaker 3: see him again, you know, this season, maybe even soon,
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  Speaker 3: if there's there's a reason or a need for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, there's nothing he can accomplish in triple
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  Speaker 1: A anymore. However, I do think he is a guy
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  Speaker 1: that to get the best album. I've said this before,
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  Speaker 1: but to get the best album, I think he needs
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  Speaker 1: to play, you know, just about every day to get
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  Speaker 1: the to get the best usage of his skill set.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sure there'll be an opportunity that that arises,
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  Speaker 1: because again we're still in early gym. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: season left, a lot of games, a lot of games
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  Speaker 1: to be played. So all right, now it is time
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  Speaker 1: for our arena club player spotlight. All right, rita club
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  Speaker 1: player spotlight. We talk about Parker Battle, as we talk
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  Speaker 1: about Gary Carpenter, you mentioned torqu In there, and you
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  Speaker 1: know who's still like right up there man and I
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  Speaker 1: and I think we're still not doing a good enough job,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, President Company. Included of just kind of
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  Speaker 1: talking about Riley Green.
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  Speaker 2: Riley Green Green like.
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  Speaker 1: Continues to be that just like kind of steady presence
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  Speaker 1: that like, you know, he's playing nearly every day. AJ's
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to preserve his body as best he can.
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  Speaker 1: But like he's a guy that you have. He bats
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  Speaker 1: against lefties, he's in the field. He just made that
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  Speaker 1: sliding catch on on Monday and then banging to a wall.
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  Speaker 1: And am I gonna take this opportunity to say that
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  Speaker 1: is his body being preserved in left field? No, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to, uh, but I'm not not gonna say it.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, Riley Green I still think is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit under discussed, and.
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  Speaker 3: He's incredibly under discussed. I'm underrated. Yeah. I read the
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  Speaker 3: story that said Riley Green has become the hitter he
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  Speaker 3: was drafted to be, and there was a dese amount
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  Speaker 3: of people being like, well, he strikes out too much,
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  Speaker 3: And again both things can be true. He is already
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  Speaker 3: an All Star player. In the month of May, coming
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  Speaker 3: off of fairly cold April, he had an eight ninety
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  Speaker 3: four OPS. Riley Green was drafted to be the type
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  Speaker 3: of player who can have an eight ninety four ops,
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  Speaker 3: who can make an All Star game. He was highly impactful.
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  Speaker 3: He had a great month. He had a career high
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  Speaker 3: for a single month with twenty four RBIs. He came
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  Speaker 3: up in a lot of big spots. There are still
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  Speaker 3: ways he can grow. One of the most encouraging things
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  Speaker 3: about Riley Green was that in each of his pro
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  Speaker 3: seasons until this year he had cut the strikeout right.
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  Speaker 3: He had up to the walck right. That trend has reversed.
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  Speaker 3: Even in May. You know, he was probably punching more
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  Speaker 3: than you would want, thirty six strikeouts in twenty seven games,
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  Speaker 3: only walked ten times. He clearly needs to be a
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  Speaker 3: little more selective. The best version Riley Green is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a little more selective. But I do think
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  Speaker 3: we have to live with the fact there's some swing
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  Speaker 3: and miss in his game. They're kind of always has been.
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  Speaker 3: Some of it is a function of having the steepest
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  Speaker 3: swing in baseball. And I've said before, like, is there
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  Speaker 3: any trade off? Can he cut that down, still hit
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  Speaker 3: for power, maybe not punch as much, not be as
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  Speaker 3: prone to the huge slumps. That's an evolving question, but
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  Speaker 3: especially when you hear a J. Hinchtock, so much of
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  Speaker 3: it is still about pitch selection. Riley is still chasing
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  Speaker 3: a lot, as chase rates in the bottom quarter of
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  Speaker 3: major league players. That's something that is improvable that that's
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  Speaker 3: more of an aggression thing, not just a swing and
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  Speaker 3: miss thing, not a batplane thing. But again, regardless, right
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  Speaker 3: the Green is punching out and chasing way too much.
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  Speaker 3: And his overall numbers are still very good, are still
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  Speaker 3: probably all star worthy. And as you said, Karen, he
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  Speaker 3: for the entire month of May he was just stable.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the middle of your order. He is producing.
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  Speaker 3: He is that guy, even if he's not totally a
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  Speaker 3: finished product.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you know, there with torque and the
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  Speaker 1: hype around that, there's like the comeback element, the one
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  Speaker 1: one thing with Jave and the com you know, and
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  Speaker 1: the product and the hype around that, there's the comeback element.
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  Speaker 1: And like obviously he's got a reputation for being a
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  Speaker 1: noteworthy player. Uh if you want to go a whole
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  Speaker 1: team school ball coming off, you know, cy Young and
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  Speaker 1: there that there's all these like Carry Carpenter, Like there's
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  Speaker 1: all these guys that kind of just get more flash
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  Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, Riley Cree just launched another one,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you talk about pitch
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  Speaker 1: selection promining, those words can be a little hard.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, pitch selection.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's hitting coming into Tuesday for eighty one
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  Speaker 1: when he swings at uh, he when he makes contact
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  Speaker 1: on the first pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Bet four home runs.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: So I like that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I like that a lot because there's like it's not
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  Speaker 1: sexy to say, I'm glad you brought up pitch election.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else is bringing this up because I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what a lot of this comes down to in general.
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  Speaker 1: And he's still a young player, you know, who is
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  Speaker 1: still growing and like at a certain point, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's some livability with how with not some a lot
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  Speaker 1: of livability with how he's approaching everything right now. In
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  Speaker 1: the zone, he's when he when he makes content, when
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  Speaker 1: he swings in the zone or makes contact in the zone,
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  Speaker 1: it's three twenty nine baton average with a nine to
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  Speaker 1: nine to one ops. Al Right out of the zone,
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  Speaker 1: it's one fifty six. I don't know what league average
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  Speaker 1: is on that. I imagine league average is down.
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  Speaker 2: The zone.
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  Speaker 1: But you say, you say, all these things that are
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  Speaker 1: you know, some level of concerning And it's like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: his barrel rate is still ninety six percent tile, his
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  Speaker 1: hard hit rate eighty percent tile. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: read here, sweet spot eighty, bat speed eighty eight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like there's all these things that it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I think we can we can deal with some
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  Speaker 1: swing and miss here. When when he's doing all these things,
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  Speaker 1: and then if you look at his splits, he's still
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  Speaker 1: he's still got to hit lefties better, you know, not
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  Speaker 1: really breaking any news there, however, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Non lefties, he's tearing, tear and tearing the ball.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So like that's that that that all that
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  Speaker 1: stuff is kind of baked in and I still think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for somebody who was at one time the
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  Speaker 1: positional face of this rebuild, he has lived up to
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  Speaker 1: that with more room to grow.
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  Speaker 2: And he's and he's.
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  Speaker 1: Still gonna be somewhat of the pillars of the Tigers,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rebuild and ascension into whether whatever they accomplished
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  Speaker 1: this year, and uh and and moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: So and the you know, the defense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he still can turn on the burners, but
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  Speaker 1: he needs still have seen it, you know, So like
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  Speaker 1: there's there's still a lot, there's still a lot there
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  Speaker 1: that I think people need to grasp and appreciate more
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  Speaker 1: and and correct.
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  Speaker 3: And again that's fair to be concerned about the injuries.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about give him a break. Hearing he's played
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  Speaker 3: in all but two games. No one likes that's another thing.
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  Speaker 3: No one likes it when he's out of the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: But actually I think he needs to be getting a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more time off.
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  Speaker 1: Well hopefully to do like like that can be that's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more viable. And and so like there's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he's done what he's had to do and excel at
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: it to this point, and we've probably still don't fully
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: grasp exactly what what his impact has been to steady
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the team with all those injuries and he you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you know, one point one more is nothing to Stee's
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  Speaker 1: at this point of the year.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also like, oh, the the All Star, you.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like it's not getting the headline,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: but he's literally he's kind of had to carry the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: team a little bit, uh at certain stretches. So I'm
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: sure that's part of the conversation that the Tigers are
• 17:53
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  Speaker 1: All right, Cody, as we go into what I think
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  Speaker 1: was like the genesis of this of this podcast idea.
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  Speaker 1: It's June mid July is the All Star game where
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: likes things are happening pretty quickly and I and I
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  Speaker 1: thought what I wanted to do was I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: kind of present certain Tigers with like their All Star case.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're arguing with your friends, if you're if
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  Speaker 1: you want to come back to it, you can. You
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: can come back to this episode. At this point in
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  Speaker 1: the episode and be like, yes, that's why Dylan Dinglar
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  Speaker 1: should be an All Star and dominate all your friends
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  Speaker 1: in the conversations, because we wanted this to kind of
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  Speaker 1: stand alone a little bit, and there's multiple options that
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  Speaker 1: we could have done for this first one. But the
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  Speaker 1: guy's red hot and he just hit a home run
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, and sometimes you just gotta you just gotta
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  Speaker 1: react with what's happening with in front of your very eyes,
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  Speaker 1: and that is Dylan Dingler.
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Dingler, Cody.
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  Speaker 1: Is having a fan fantastic season, fantastic season like he
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  Speaker 1: is right now. One point six war, that's Baseball reference War,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: one point six war behind the plate, a guy that
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: we were, you know, thinking could be good coming into
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: this season. Certainly there were topics that we discussed about
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: how it was kind of an unproven catching room. Don't
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we look smart worrying about Jake Rogers gets hurt. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the Tigers are a top three pitching staff in the
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  Speaker 1: American League and basically every statistical category. So obviously that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: has owed a lot to Dylan Dingler, who calls the
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  Speaker 1: pitches and commands the catching room. Obviously, working with AJ
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  Speaker 1: and Chris and.
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  Speaker 2: And all that stuff. But what what about the plate?
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  Speaker 1: You know, like that's really where these catchers get like
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  Speaker 1: star status. All right, Well, in the American League, he's
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  Speaker 1: third in WRC plus, he's fourth in OPS, he's third
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in RBI, third and average and you know cal Riley
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: rally that's uh. I just did some North Carolina state
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: stuff and I still got that wrong today.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So that's my bad.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: There is ahead of like basically every one of these categories,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and he's probably going to start. But the case for
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler is strong as hell, considering that Dingler is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: right there and like, you know, behind him in a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: lot of these offensive categories, and yet he's heading one
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of the best pitching stats in Major League Baseball and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: certainly the American League. And I'm pretty sure Cody he
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: leads all of Major League Baseball and pop up assist
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: outs we saw, so he.
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  Speaker 3: Leaves the league in the opposite Yes, unfortunately the Tigers
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: had a fly ball assist out go against them. Fine,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: will we will count those different? Yeah, Kieran Dylan Dingler.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: In what's been a charmed season where so much has
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: gotten right, Dylan Dingler has been one of those things.
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  Speaker 3: It's I don't want to say, hard to explain, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: almost a little hard to explain. We talked about coming
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: into the year, are we sure you know what? Dingler
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: just really struggles to hit. His minor league track record
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: was a little bit up and down in terms of
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: his offensive performance. He really started clicking last year. He
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: had three to h eight in Triple A. Then came
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: to the big league and looked completely overmatched at times.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: He had won sixty seven in his first twenty seven games.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Fangraft's zip projected him this year to hit two forty
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  Speaker 3: four to be worth one point eight war. Well, he's
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: already blown past that. He's at two war on Fangrass,
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  Speaker 3: which is third among American League catchers, just behind carloson
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  Speaker 3: Nervas for that number two spot, and he's he It
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: just amazes me, honestly that almost midway through the season
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  Speaker 3: he's hitting two ninety six. He's hitting for power, He's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: sustained a one twenty six WRC plus, he's been a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: legitimate threat at the plate. And talking to aj Hinch,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you know who said, maybe this isn't a stretch, maybe
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: this is who he is. I never would have quite
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: evaluated Dylan Dingler as that level of bat, well, it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: been a long stretch where he has sustained that level
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: of bat I've been just really impressed with his ability
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  Speaker 3: to have good at bats and be drive the baseball
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  Speaker 3: with authority.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's the extra base stuff, which again he showed
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  Speaker 1: last year in limited time last season. By the way,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Carson Kelly's doing pretty good for so shout out, shout
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  Speaker 1: out Carson.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know they know pitchers, they know catchers over there
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  Speaker 2: in Detroit. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But like, you know, the extra base thing that there's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a hint there, but like it's a real swing, it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a real valuable asset. It's a thing that in the pinch.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I think we both agree you could d h Dylan Dingler.
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  Speaker 1: But the real case is that for him to be
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: an All Star really comes down to this. He's probably
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: your he's probably your best all around catcher in the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: American League. Now, he doesn't have the upside defensively or
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: offensively of some of these other guys, but when you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they take the whole profile, it's hard to argue against them.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: When his fielding run value is ninety six and his uh,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Kyl Roy won a Platinum Glove last year. So I
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: don't know if I can go that far, but I'll.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Give you Stingler is a better blocker, he's a better framer,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and he's a better cod stealing guy this year this year.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So far, you're right and that and.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's what that's all the evidence that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: we can use. So I said, argument could be made,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: argument could be made, the upside is better than other guys,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: complete profile, argument could be made for one Dylan Dingler.
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  Speaker 1: So that is our case, the All Star case for
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: one Dylan Dingler. And we'll get to some other guys
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  Speaker 1: later this month as well as the Tigers could have.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. If Dingler plays well through June, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: think he's got it and he's on the best team
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  Speaker 3: in the AL. If that's still the case, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: entering the All Star Game, I think he's think he
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: could go to the All Star Game. Labor Torres, we'll
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: get second base. Then it's a week crap. Laper is
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: number one right now in the AL. He's going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the All Star Game. Eric Scooble, we know, is going
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: to the All Star Game. And then you have Riley
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Tour with very compelling cases Casey Mice, Tommy Kinley, Will
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: vest All have compelling cases McKinstry and yeah, certainly until recently,
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  Speaker 3: Abby Baya's had a great case. He's actually leveled off
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  Speaker 3: in a bad way, but if he can pick it
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  Speaker 3: up again, he's got a case. I'm not sure what
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the number of All Stars is going to be here,
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  Speaker 3: and it could be really high.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, looking forward to you know, seeing that
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  Speaker 1: the ballots are coming out soon, so we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: as we break down the.
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  Speaker 1: neat moment, and we try to highlight these because they're
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  Speaker 1: they're they're great. Every time we finally got to see
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Smith Cody uh shout out to his family number one,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole smellman of seeing the family see
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  Speaker 1: uh see their brother, their you know, their boyfriend, their son,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, take the major league field for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: That never gets old.
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  Speaker 1: But also travel because I imagine they were in Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City and had to wait and go to Chicago and he.
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  Speaker 2: Finally got got in. And he's a positive war player.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So Dylan Smith is a positive war player.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: He bitched two innings, gave up, gave up only one hit.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Still as of now, still looking for that first career strikeout.
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  Speaker 1: But nice, nice to see Dylan get in there and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I they like him a lot. Something tells me debut
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  Speaker 1: him as an asset to upgrade this bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could tell his family is really happy. It's
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  Speaker 3: a real baseball family. There have been some stories done
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  Speaker 3: in the past, even when he was at Alabama. His
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  Speaker 3: his a great grandmother who grew up rooting for the
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  Speaker 3: Birmingham Barons in the negro leagues. You know, his mother
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: knows what she is talking about. I've seen her out
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I think on the spring training backfields and stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: then yeah, obviously just a great story overcoming a couple
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: of injuries, moving to the bullpen and taking that in
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  Speaker 3: stride and really becoming a better pitcher. It's a guy,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of right off the bat and then
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  Speaker 3: settled in and looks pretty good. I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 3: more from Dylan Smith one hundred.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about another kind of debut of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: sorts for our Friday episode with Sawyer Gibson. Long expected
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: as of now to start starting the series. So looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to that too, because again, fun story at that time,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, overcoming injuries and all that stuff. That
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: stuff never gets old either, so plenty of storylines that
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about to end the week, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: also uh talk about the home stand as well, anything else,
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  Speaker 3: No, that's it for now, all.
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