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Full Show Podcast: 02 April 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: earlier edition with one roof love where you live news Talks,
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  Speaker 1: there'd be good morning in a.
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  Speaker 2: Six half to five on your Thursday morning, we'll head
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  Speaker 2: to DC for Trump's big address and we'll go to
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  Speaker 2: Mitch mccannor NATO this morning. We're also going to do
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  Speaker 2: a drive by of the moon as in humans. This
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  Speaker 2: is NASA. We'll get across that and Fenn's board members
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  Speaker 2: are set to get an up to eighty percent pay rises.
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  Speaker 2: That good news or bad news. The agenda day to
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  Speaker 2: second of Eightril. Trump reckons the Iranians want to cease
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  Speaker 2: fire and this will all be over soon.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that within two weeks, maybe two weeks,
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  Speaker 3: maybe three. We're heading them very hard. Last night we
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  Speaker 3: knocked out tremendous amounts of missile making facilities.
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  Speaker 2: Now Run's already come out and said that, no, that's false,
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  Speaker 2: that's baseless. We haven't asked for a cease fire. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Trump's at it again talking about leaving NATO, Heiman Rubio.
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  Speaker 4: Ultimately, that's a decision for the president to make, and
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  Speaker 4: you'll have to make it. We're going to finish the
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  Speaker 4: job As I said, we're very very close to achieving
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  Speaker 4: our objectives on all of these things that I've outlined,
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  Speaker 4: but I do think, unfortunately we are going to have
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  Speaker 4: to re examine whether or not this alliance that has
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  Speaker 4: served this country well for a while is still serving
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  Speaker 4: that purpose.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're worried about the straight reopening, don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: Starma to the reskue.
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  Speaker 5: Above all clear and calm leadership. That is what this
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  Speaker 5: country is ready to provide, because my guide from the
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  Speaker 5: start of this conflict has always been the British national
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  Speaker 5: interest and freedom of navigation in the Middle East is
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  Speaker 5: in the British national.
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  Speaker 2: Interest, all right, So what are you actually doing? Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a meeting this week with thirty five countries in
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  Speaker 2: London to Australia. A very COVID esqu address from alban
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  Speaker 2: Easy last night went on all TV and radio stations nationwide.
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  Speaker 6: The months ahead may not be easy. I want to
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  Speaker 6: be upfront about that. No government can promise to eliminate
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  Speaker 6: the pressures that this war is causing. On Monday, National
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  Speaker 6: Cabinet adopted the National Fuel Security Plan. Today we cut
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  Speaker 6: the fuel excise in half. We are working to bring
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  Speaker 6: the price of fuel down.
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  Speaker 2: More on that address in a second why some called
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  Speaker 2: it more of an Instagram reel than a national address.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to NASA. The astronauts they're there, they're ready.
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  Speaker 2: It's a ten day Artemis two mission. Why't actually land
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  Speaker 2: on the moon that it's going to circle around it.
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  Speaker 7: You do not want to do anything too quick in
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  Speaker 7: this vehicle. You need to take your time. You need
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  Speaker 7: to process everything. Almost always appears bigger dividends to move
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  Speaker 7: forward then to go backwards. So no foustands in the cockpit.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to go slow and we have the ultimate
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  Speaker 7: trust in each other and that's how we will get
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  Speaker 7: through this.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof love where you live.
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  Speaker 2: Used talk set me fine after five. Don't mess with fishes.
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  Speaker 2: That's the very clear message this week, isn't it Those anglers?
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  Speaker 2: The angler lobby is strong. There's another hullaballoo at Parliament.
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  Speaker 2: This is yesterday over the fishing Reform Bill that Shane
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  Speaker 2: Jones is pushing through. It's going to select committee. And
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  Speaker 2: now you've got all these national backbenches, including Vanessa Weening
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  Speaker 2: from Banks Peninsula coming out and saying submit on the bill,
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  Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with saying this, Submit on the
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  Speaker 2: bill and we'll make changes. And San Marto, Shane's not happy.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to have a word with Luxin about the
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  Speaker 2: behavior of National Party backbenches. So a bit of a hullabaloo.
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  Speaker 2: But the coalition agreement, because this is what it all
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  Speaker 2: hangs in. There is a clause and the coalition agreement
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  Speaker 2: between New Zealand First and National and I had a
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  Speaker 2: look at this morning. It is very vague, so they
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  Speaker 2: don't have to do anything really, it just says remove
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  Speaker 2: regulations that impede the productivity and enormous potential of the
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  Speaker 2: seafood sector. That's vague enough to drive a truck through.
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  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't have thought that that's going to get
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  Speaker 2: in their way if they do want to make more
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  Speaker 2: changes to the bill. Yesterday I spoke to Doug Paulan,
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  Speaker 2: he's the chief executive at Sea Lord, and I asked
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  Speaker 2: him about because you know, they've already done a backdown
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  Speaker 2: last week week with Shane and Winston and this is
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  Speaker 2: about the catch size limits and this was his take
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  Speaker 2: on it. He was a bit disappointed, even though he's
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  Speaker 2: not directly affected by him.
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  Speaker 8: I thought it was relatively disappointing that change didn't go through.
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  Speaker 8: The reason I say that is it won't make any
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  Speaker 8: difference to what's being caught in those fisheries where those
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  Speaker 8: small fish are. What it meant was that commercial fishes
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  Speaker 8: had to land that fish. They had to declare it
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  Speaker 8: against their quota. No one wants to catch small fish
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  Speaker 8: because the price is very low. What now they'll legally
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  Speaker 8: have to do is I have to discard any of
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  Speaker 8: those small fish, So rather than landing them when they
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  Speaker 8: catch them, they'll actually have to throw them back to sea.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of them will die or are dead, and
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  Speaker 8: then they are allowed to go and trawl again to
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  Speaker 8: catch fish. So look, I thought it was disappointing that
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  Speaker 8: that change was made. I understand why it was because
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  Speaker 8: it was received poorly by the public, But I think
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  Speaker 8: factually there wasn't a lot of understanding of that particular change.
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  Speaker 8: It doesn't impact sea low because we don't fish in
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  Speaker 8: those fisheries.
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  Speaker 2: So the question then becomes was the back down was
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  Speaker 2: the clause better for fish stocks or worse? I'm left
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  Speaker 2: I'm unsure at this point. The one thing I know
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  Speaker 2: is that the clearly the recreational fisher lobby has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of sway and a lot of swag within the
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  Speaker 2: National Party, even after five year. On news Talk ZIB,
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  Speaker 2: next fens, who's getting an eighty percent pay rise? Is
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  Speaker 2: it the front line firefighters?
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  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iheard Radio early edition
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  Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks dB five person News Talk ZIB. It could
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  Speaker 2: be a good day for Chris Pink, could be a
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  Speaker 2: good day for James Meaga. There's a cabinet reshuffle happening.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in ten minutes, Ryan Bred right
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  Speaker 2: now FORIREG and emergency board members getting a pay rise
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  Speaker 2: of up to eighty percent this year comes as the
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  Speaker 2: firefighters themselves are fighting for a pay rise. Equipment's breaking things,
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  Speaker 2: a firefighters angry. Basically, Taxpayers Union also a bit angry
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Jordan Williams, Taxpayers Union Executive director.
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  Speaker 9: Of US Morning Jordan, Good morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the argument is that you need to pay board
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  Speaker 2: members a decent wicket, otherwise you get, you know, pay peanuts,
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  Speaker 2: get monkeys.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that is true, but this really actually
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  Speaker 9: just highlights what have been systematic issues with a total
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  Speaker 9: failure of governments and oversight within FENS. The background of
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  Speaker 9: FENDS is that the rural and urban fire services were
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  Speaker 9: merged together in twenty sixteen back under Peter when Peter
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  Speaker 9: Dunn was Minister. We warned at the time this has
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  Speaker 9: proved to be a disaster in Australia where they are
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  Speaker 9: actually moved to d amalgamate them. Our most recent report
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  Speaker 9: on this two years ago showed that the whole basis
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  Speaker 9: of the amalgamation was if it was to save fifty
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  Speaker 9: million year. Instead it's costing us an extra quarter of
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  Speaker 9: a billion a year. We get more correspondence than any
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  Speaker 9: other government agent. We're just staying in the other government
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  Speaker 9: agencies about failures of governance within FENS. Clearly it has
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  Speaker 9: lost its community service ethos. I can go through lots
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  Speaker 9: of've got a third more managers since FENN started, despite
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  Speaker 9: having only five percent more firefighters. The point is this,
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  Speaker 9: you've got frontline workers desperate for equipment that actually works,
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  Speaker 9: desperate for actually a fair wage, and you have a
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  Speaker 9: what they would call a BS tower, a management hierarchy
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  Speaker 9: in Wellington that is totally out of touch.
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  Speaker 2: But is that is that because we're paying them board
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  Speaker 2: member gets what twenty five grand at the moment they
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  Speaker 2: were go up to forty five. I mean, is it
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  Speaker 2: because of the people that you might be able to
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  Speaker 2: tracked with that type of remuneration.
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  Speaker 9: Well, it used to be. It used to have a
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  Speaker 9: real community service ethos. Unfortunately I understand that it's gone.
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  Speaker 9: There were quite serious allegations about toxicity. Toxicity within the
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  Speaker 9: senior hierarchy within FENDS. Their management structure has exploded. I
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  Speaker 9: think last county was eight deputy chief executives. The oversight
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  Speaker 9: of Friends, in terms of a value for money prospect
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  Speaker 9: was actually sits not with treasury. It sits with the IA,
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  Speaker 9: its apartment in affairs. Because they're not funded through taxes,
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  Speaker 9: you don't have to wreck treasury oversight. FENDS is funded
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  Speaker 9: through an insurance levy. The point is two things. Number One,
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  Speaker 9: very clearly there as failures of government. I'm not convinced governance.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not convinced it's not good people willing to put
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  Speaker 9: their hand up. It's the government's poor oversight are of
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  Speaker 9: this organization. And number two is when this was going through,
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  Speaker 9: one of the compromises that taxpayers were promised was a
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  Speaker 9: post implementation review of things. We are now ten years
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  Speaker 9: later and it has not happened. In fact, there hasn't
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  Speaker 9: just not happened. Brook van Valden turned down the request
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  Speaker 9: to have that post implementation review. I think that stories
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  Speaker 9: like this demonstrate why we need that review, because, frankly,
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  Speaker 9: when you've got the you know, the firefighting union, which
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  Speaker 9: is one of the more militant ones, and the taxpayers
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  Speaker 9: Union agreeing there is major problems here that there might.
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  Speaker 2: Be something's got to be wrong. Jordan, appreciate your time
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Thank you, Jordan Williams, Taxpayers and an executive
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  Speaker 2: direct to Time. As eighteen minutes after five, Bryan brie
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  Speaker 2: He existed something about the Royal Navy that upset the
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  Speaker 2: Royal Navy, and the reason it's upsetting them is because
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of true.
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  Speaker 10: There are countries around the world who be prepared to
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  Speaker 10: step up on this critical wide away as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just the United States Navy.
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  Speaker 10: Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big,
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  Speaker 10: bad Royal Navy.
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  Speaker 2: Now that was dripping in sarcasm the last little comment there.
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  Speaker 2: And what's interesting is the top brass of the military
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  Speaker 2: that've come out and in defense people come out in city. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: it is a little embarrassing. General Jenkins, he's your first
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  Speaker 2: Sea lord. He's admitted the Navy is not ready for war.
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  Speaker 2: The British Navy, according to the Defense investig this is
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  Speaker 2: his quote, according to the Defense investigation that was completed
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  Speaker 2: last year, I will be ready for war by the
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  Speaker 2: end of this decade. When asked to clarify if this
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  Speaker 2: meant that the Navy was not ready for war now,
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  Speaker 2: he confirmed he did not think so. It couldn't be
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  Speaker 2: any clearer than that. Took them three weeks. Remember they
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  Speaker 2: sent the HMS Dragon discipress. Took them three weeks to
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  Speaker 2: get it there. For goodness sakes, at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the Cold War, UK had fifty one destroyers and frigates.
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  Speaker 2: They spent three point two percent of GDP on defense.
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  Speaker 2: By two thousand and seven they had twenty five frigates
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  Speaker 2: and destroyers now thirteen, much of them aging and spending
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  Speaker 2: two point four percent of GDP on defense. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why it stinks. Five nineteen News and Views You Trust
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  Speaker 2: to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: It's early edition with Bryan Bridge and one roof Love,
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  Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks.
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  Speaker 2: I'd b twenty one after five all very exciting because
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  Speaker 2: this morning at eleven twenty four, Artemis II will send
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  Speaker 2: four astronauts on their way around the Moon, NASA's first
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  Speaker 2: mancraft to go beyond orbit since nineteen seventy two. Very
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  Speaker 2: excited about this is hurry Tina MOGUSTANYU Astrobiology Network with
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  Speaker 2: us this morning.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: So why do we need to do a drive by first?
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  Speaker 2: Why can't we just land there and set up a
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  Speaker 2: base straight away, Hurry Tina, because it.
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  Speaker 11: Is safer and this mission has proven the fact that
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  Speaker 11: you really have to check your equipment. See. The very
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  Speaker 11: first Moonlighting was a military operation that was run as
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  Speaker 11: a race between the two countries that at the time,
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  Speaker 11: the United States and the USSR They were trying to
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  Speaker 11: prove each other and who was winning more things, and
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  Speaker 11: the Russians were winning, and then the Americans thought, we
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  Speaker 11: have to go to the Moon, so they really tutted
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  Speaker 11: it as a military operation. Whereas now everything that is
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  Speaker 11: happening is taking into consideration the safety of the crew,
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  Speaker 11: the well being of the people who are on board,
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  Speaker 11: and it's phenomenal because they really care about the people
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  Speaker 11: who are there. The four astronauts we're gonna be really
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  Speaker 11: well taken care.
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  Speaker 2: Of, Hurtina, Is this all about minerals and rare earths
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  Speaker 2: and business?
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  Speaker 11: Yes and no, Yes and hopefully no, Hopefully humankind as
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  Speaker 11: we are wonderful. I'm an optimist. I believe in us
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  Speaker 11: and humankind and our power to produce good from everything.
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  Speaker 11: We will take this forward, and we will also produce
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  Speaker 11: space being, which are all these technologies that are now
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  Speaker 11: improving life, like MRI scanners and all of the good things,
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  Speaker 11: even mobile sordes that I am using right now to
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  Speaker 11: improve lives here on earths. So space travel, it's a
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  Speaker 11: phenomenal thing that is helping us, has helped us as
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  Speaker 11: human humans to evolve beyond incredible conditions because spaceflight is
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  Speaker 11: so hard, and because it's so hard, we have to
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  Speaker 11: come up with so many ideas and things, and those
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  Speaker 11: ideas and things that are mostly used here on Earth.
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  Speaker 11: So that's why space space flight is so good. Not
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  Speaker 11: necessarily because some people go to the Moon. You know,
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  Speaker 11: it's not going to be too many of them, and
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  Speaker 11: not everybody's going to be able to go there, though
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  Speaker 11: I do hope we will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you hurt if I gave you a ticket
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  Speaker 2: that said you could live on the moon, would you.
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  Speaker 11: Go I would when maybe not live on the moon.
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  Speaker 11: I love, I love where I am and whip dark
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  Speaker 11: sky resilt, but I bet the moon has an amazing,
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  Speaker 11: amazing night sky.
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  Speaker 2: Hurry, Tina, Nice to have you on the program. Harry
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  Speaker 2: ten Mogasanyu, who is very excited. Twenty four after five
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  Speaker 2: about the launch eleven twenty four. I mean weather dependent,
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  Speaker 2: one would assume twenty four after five News TALKSZB, we'll
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  Speaker 2: look at the cabinet reshuffle next the early.
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  Speaker 1: Edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio how It By
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  Speaker 1: News TALKSB five.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty six News TALKSB. The American President is doing a
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  Speaker 2: live press today to talk about his war. Will head
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  Speaker 2: to Washington before six on that. The Australian Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: has just wrapped a live address to the nation on
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  Speaker 2: the oil shock, and here our prime minister is making
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  Speaker 2: his own announcement about a cabinet reshuffle. It's a bit
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  Speaker 2: of an odd time to do it, if you're honest,
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  Speaker 2: but he does have Vitty and Colin's leaving, so I
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  Speaker 2: had to do it at some point. I suppose the
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  Speaker 2: day before Easter Friday means he wants to probably spray
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  Speaker 2: and walk away for the weekend. The good news is
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  Speaker 2: there is plenty of talent to promote the likes of
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  Speaker 2: James Meaga Chris Penk, which is in contrast the opposition
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  Speaker 2: where the pool is rather shallow. Water comes up to
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  Speaker 2: your ankles, doesn't it. For Luxon, getting the right team
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  Speaker 2: around him is not just important for running the country,
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  Speaker 2: it's his entire election strategy. His pitch to voters is
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  Speaker 2: basically that he's the hr Department. He prides himself on
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  Speaker 2: putting the right man or woman in the right job.
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  Speaker 2: The fact he's doing it today also suggests that he's
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  Speaker 2: not listening to the press gallery, which is no bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: Who criticized him for opening christ Church's new stadium. While
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  Speaker 2: Nikola Willis was left to front oil crisis stand ups
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  Speaker 2: and presses in Wellington, He's doing other stuff? Is Luxon
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  Speaker 2: like reshuffles, thank you very much? In the stark contrast
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  Speaker 2: to leaders of other countries, we like to compare ourselves
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  Speaker 2: to twenty seven after five Bridge. So just what did
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  Speaker 2: you get last night? If you were watching any TV station,
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  Speaker 2: any radio network in Australia, you were getting this.
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  Speaker 6: My fellow Australians, By nature. We're an optimistic country, but
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  Speaker 6: I understand that right now it's hard to be positive.
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  Speaker 2: Have Australian prime ministers always used them, my fellow, That's
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  Speaker 2: an American thing, isn't it. Anyway? He went on, By
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  Speaker 2: the way, it was a very short address and one
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  Speaker 2: polling expert over there she's called it more of an
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  Speaker 2: instagram reil.
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  Speaker 6: But he continued, tonight, I want to speak directly with
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  Speaker 6: you about what the government is doing to shield Australia
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  Speaker 6: in these uncertain times.
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  Speaker 2: What are they doing well, They've have the petrol excise,
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  Speaker 2: they've cut rucks for truck drivers, and today this is
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  Speaker 2: according to The Australian, he's going to announce one billion
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  Speaker 2: of interest free loans for businesses who are being impacted
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  Speaker 2: by what's happening in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks Elbow, we will deal with these global challenges the
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  Speaker 6: Australian way, working together and looking after each other as
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  Speaker 6: we always have. Thank you, and good evening.
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  Speaker 2: In good evening. So the polling expert that I mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 2: he says the problem with these types of addresses, and
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  Speaker 2: something that Albaneze clearly hasn't picked up on, is that
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  Speaker 2: voters don't really trust in steatitutions that much anymore. They
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  Speaker 2: don't after COVID, they don't really trust politicians that much anymore,
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  Speaker 2: and live addresses like that had gotten a little bit old,
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  Speaker 2: which is why you're seeing a surgeon support for parties
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  Speaker 2: like One Nation. So he's basically saying, and I think
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  Speaker 2: he has a point that the power of the live
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  Speaker 2: televised address from a political leader just ain't quite what
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  Speaker 2: it was. News TALKSB twenty nine after five, we're head
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  Speaker 2: too much McCanns stateside, and we will hit to DC
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  Speaker 2: as well, ahead of Trump's big live address that one
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  Speaker 2: you're sort of interested in that it's a war he started,
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  Speaker 2: which today he may end. The News Talks ab.
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  Speaker 1: Ellsly the news you need this morning and the in
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  Speaker 1: depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Route
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  Speaker 2: Pretty far away from six year on News Talk ZB,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: we hed DC top of the are. This is ahead
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of Trump's pressor today on the war and Mitch McCanns
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and New York for US on NATO and America's membership
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of it. How long will that last?
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: A trip between Auckland and Fungaday could cost you fourteen
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: dollars twenty in tolls. This is once they do the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: next extension, which don't worry if you are on the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: road this morning, it's going to take awey while in
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: fact they won't have that up and running until twenty
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: thirty four at the earliest. The next section of the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: expressway it's a PPP, it's a ron so all the acronyms,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and this is the Walkworth to Taharnas section. So once
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you add in the toll that's already existing for the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: brand spanking new, flashy let's go fast bit of the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: motorway that's there already, when you add on the new extension,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the total for a return trip fourteen dollars twenty. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: some people are saying, well, that's outrageous. The problem is
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you need to get the money from somewhere, don't you,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And if you want a nice, brand spanking new road,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: someone has to pay for it, and this is a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: way to pay for it. The levy would last for
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: they're not even sure yet, but anywhere between thirty and
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: sixty years. The thing that sort of if you are,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: if you are someone who has to do that road
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: all the time, has to travel all the time, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: you are worried about the cost. Under the legislation there
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: must always be an alternative untold option. So at the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: end of the day, if you don't want to pay,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you don't have.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: To bran bread.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Let's go to our reporters, Color Proctor and Morning Culm
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Morning right. What are the catch limits with the rock
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: lobster here in Otago or.
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: They've just been increased here following a sustainability review which
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: showed signs the fishery is healthy and recovering, and so
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: commercial quotas have been increased by twenty nine point nine
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: tons to a total allowable commercial catch now of one
• 19:50
  Speaker 12: hundred and thirty three tons in a season.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of lobster.
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: It also follows management procedures introduced here back in twenty
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: twenty four. They were designed to balance sustainable harvest with
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: economic benefit, so that seems to have worked. Oceans and Fisheries.
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: Minister Shane Jones says this increases good news not just
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: for fishes but for the wider otiger communities here that
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: rely on this industry. This comes as Gisban's lobs to
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: catch Ryan's being cut back to protect stocks there after
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: the cyclone damage.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: How's the weather?
• 20:20
  Speaker 12: Good day to be a lobster find today nor easterlies
• 20:22
  Speaker 12: and twenty two.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Jess Callum morning clear in christ Church? How are you
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: good morning?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: Thanks?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: What's going on with the pong in the east? Still worry?
• 20:30
  Speaker 13: It just goes on and on and on. Christ Church
• 20:32
  Speaker 13: Counselors are apparently going to reject this plan today though
• 20:35
  Speaker 13: this was the mayor's idea to put partially treated wastewater
• 20:38
  Speaker 13: into the ocean in order to ease the stink from
• 20:41
  Speaker 13: the wastewater treatment plant now Merefilm Major floated this idea
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: after the abatement notice from Environment Canterbury that came following
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: more than five thousand community complaints. A decision is due
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: today after it was pushed back by a day due
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: to some questions by counselors, which we understand got rather heated.
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: The rapport which we've seen, warns that the plan the
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: Mere's plan, could cost up to eighteen point three million dollars.
• 21:06
  Speaker 13: It also carries unknown environmental impacts and has a very
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: high risk of failure. Staff at Council and Stage want
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: them to push forward with a seven point seven million
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: dollar low risk option to erate the ponds that would
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: cut odor about ninety five percent of the time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: How's your weather.
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: Nice day here in Christchurch, fine northeasterlies and the high
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: will be twenty.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Have a great long weekend clear in Maxim, Wellington, Morning Max,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: good morning. What's happening at to Papa?
• 21:32
  Speaker 14: Well, yeah, there's a story here. It's up on the
• 21:35
  Speaker 14: herald side about a tortoise that is well over one
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: hundred years old who survived World War One. The story says,
• 21:43
  Speaker 14: makes it sound like it was sent to the front lines.
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: It's made a surprise visitor to Papa for an exhibition
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: that features the tortoises story. What happened was in Greece
• 21:52
  Speaker 14: in nineteen sixteen. She was run over by a French
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: cut and taken in from the side of the road
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: by a Kiwi soldier who nursed her back to health
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: and shift her home in his rucksack. Cared for now
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: by generation after generation in Hawk's Bay to Papa's Gallipoli exhibit.
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: The excellent Gallipoli Exhibit here has a replica of this
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: tortoise on display. Torti, I should say her name is
• 22:16
  Speaker 14: Torti was brought to to Papa from Hawks Bay as
• 22:19
  Speaker 14: a surprise this week shown around lots of photos taken,
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: including next to the replica of herself. She's about to
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: go into months of hibernation, hopefully has a few more
• 22:28
  Speaker 14: years left in her yet.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, how did they live forrges? Don't they?
• 22:32
  Speaker 15: Yeah?
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: I don't know, one hundred, one hundred and fifty years.
• 22:35
  Speaker 14: Probably think a bit long, a.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Bit like neither. She's here in a minute.
• 22:41
  Speaker 14: Yeah, close, a cool start, but fine weather today nineteen Hello, hello, I.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Feel like a beady for one hundred years? Or to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: hang on?
• 22:49
  Speaker 16: I'm confused with my hosking.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: He's always going to out do y.
• 22:53
  Speaker 16: Oh, well he'll do all of us?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Who will? Who will? Hey? The freedom camping at Wisme's Bay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 16: Yes, now, look, the councils put a pause on this.
• 23:04
  Speaker 16: Why repeated rule breaking? So the site has spots. This
• 23:08
  Speaker 16: is for three self contained vehicles. Now they can only
• 23:12
  Speaker 16: stay a maximum of one night, but the council's given
• 23:15
  Speaker 16: one hundred and seventy finves. This has happened over the
• 23:17
  Speaker 16: past two years to campus staying just outside that designated area.
• 23:21
  Speaker 16: There've also been reports of parking in disabled spots. Come on, people,
• 23:25
  Speaker 16: there's a big no no, and camping intents. No, no,
• 23:28
  Speaker 16: can't do that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Now this I know this area. Yes, it stinks down
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: there because Cox's Bay is always a no swim bay
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: because it's just got sewerage being pumped out there all
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the time. So when you walk past, you see these
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: camper vans and it's next to one of the worst
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: beaches in Auckland, and it's stinks. It's like living in Bromley.
• 23:46
  Speaker 16: But do you know what, The tourists love it because
• 23:48
  Speaker 16: it looks so beautiful and it's so popular. So I
• 23:51
  Speaker 16: think they think, oh, look at that Lock's gorgeous, doesn't it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, we don't care about the pond. Put a peg
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: on your nose.
• 23:56
  Speaker 16: Yeah, you're quite right though.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: How's that weather?
• 23:58
  Speaker 16: Billy cloudy clearing to fine this afternoon for the long weekend.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Hallelujah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 16: Twenty two is the high you can tell that. I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 16: very very happy.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I can tell you very craise B. Eighteen to six.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: News talks THEREB, We're in New York. Next news talks, B.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It is quarter to six. Bit of horn move's hope.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Saw a rally on the stock markets on Wall Street.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: This is yesterday. Major indexes up their biggest one day
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: games in ten months. So think the investors are looking
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a little positive about what Trump's going to say today.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And oil has come back down overnight when below one
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars a barrel. Our last time I checked, trading
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: at about one hundred and two. So there you go.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We'll sit and wait and we'll speak to our correspondent
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: out of Washington in a few minutes time.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: for New Zealand business First.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: BLA, let's go to Mitch McCann, our US correspondent, who's
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: here to talk about NATO and whether the US I mean,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: he's threttened this before, Mitch, but they are obviously seriously
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: considering again to pull out or not. Yeah, that's right,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Ryan.
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: Donald Trump's done a couple of interviews on the US
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: relationship with NATO, and these are perhaps his most forceful
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: comments yet about the possibility that America could withdraw from
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: the alliance. The context, of course, is that Donald Trump
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: has found Ryan for a long time that Europe doesn't
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: pull its weight for its own defense and that Uncle
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: Sam's always going to be there. And in recent weeks
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: he's been furious that Europe hasn't come to secure the
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: Strait of Hormuz, and Donald Trump really feels this is
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: a one way relationship. So he's done an interview with
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: the Telegraph in the UK where he was asked if
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: he would reconsider America's membership after the war in Iran,
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: and he said, yes, I would say it's beyond reconsideration.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: I was never swayed by NATO. I always knew they
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: were a paper tiger. And Putin knows that too, by
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: the way. He's then done an interview with Reuters saying
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: he's absolutely reconsidering their membership and may withdraw from NATO,
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: and something he's likely to talk about tonight. He's doing
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: a primetime address to the United States at nine pm
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: Local so two o'clock in the afternoon in New Zealand.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: First, though, we've got the fewest Supreme Court hearing or
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: arguments on the citizenship stuff.
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and Donald Trump has actually been in attendance at
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: court for this. Today he becomes the first city US
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: president to attend the Supreme Court. Now, Donald Trump signed
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: an executive order last year trying to stop automatic citizenship
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: for people born in the US. He believes that people
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: are illegally migrating here to have children just so that
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: they can become citizens. But opponents say this is written
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: into the US Constitution, it can't be changed without a
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: two thirds vote of the Senate and most US states
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: voting in favor of it. So those arguments have been
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: held today. It's interesting, Ryan, Well, many in the US
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: are outraged about this. Many countries don't offer birthright citizenship.
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: New Zealand is one that doesn't offer unconditional birthright citizenship.
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: So that's playing out in the courts at the moment
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: here in the US.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Mitch, you know, when Trump says one thing and then
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: says the exact opposite, all in the same breath, what
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: do you do with that information? You know, what what
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: part do you take as truth? What part do you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: take as gospel?
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: You know, it's very difficult to know. And you were
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: talking about the Mark it's a little bit earlier, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: it seems the markets have been extremely reactive to his
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: truth social comments, only for him to post something, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: completely different a couple of hours later. So I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: you've really got to take it with a grain assault sometimes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, this war was going to be over within
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: two weeks it's now been going a month and it
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: could last another two weeks, so it's hard to know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Mitch. Appreciate the update as always, Mitch McCann, our US correspondent.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: He's with us from New York, just gone twelve minutes
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: away from.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Six Ryan Bridge.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: A couple of little updates for you. So this is
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: before the war began. Signs of recovery for residential construction
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: sector and boy don't they need it. This is for February.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Building consent numbers were up eleven point seven percent from
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the same month a year ago, so that was good.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Emphasis on was we'll see what happens from here. And
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the UAE, you know that the Persian Gulf countries haven't
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: become involved in the war. They haven't actually gone. They've
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: been hit, but they haven't attacked. And the UAE is
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: now talking about helping the US, helping the Brits, helping
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: any allies really open the strait of hor Mood by force.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: They are ready to enter the Group chat and they've
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: been lobbying the UN, the UN Security Council. They want
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a resolution to actually authorize that sort of action. Obviously
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it's then their interest to have this thing open time
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is eleven minutes away from six. We'll be back right
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: after this.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Where you live News Talks, i'd b nine minutes away
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: from six. Pologies we couldn't get to Washington in the end,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: but this was Trump talking about how long this thing
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: could drag on.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I would say that within two weeks, maybe two weeks,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: maybe three, we're knocked out excuse me.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Part of everything.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: The US will be gone or done with the warrants.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I think we two or three weeks.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So the White House now saying that his address, which
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: is two pm our time, you'll be all tuning in
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: no doubt they'll have coverage chair on News Talks at
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: b But the White House saying he's going to reiterate
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that message this afternoon. Go now. Meantime, the International Energy Agency,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: this is the one that's We've got the Tickets Forum
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: releasing the ohel the four hundred million barrels of oil
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: from the emergency stocks. So the International Energy Agency boss
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: has come out and said the bleeding obvious really that
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: April will be much worse than March because March oil
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: supplies benefited from shipments that were already on the water
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: before the war began. So things will get tighter in
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: April before they get better, depending on what Trump says
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: this afternoon. Of course. The other interesting thing that happened
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: last night was that China is joining Pakistan because everyone
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: wants to be the mediator, everyone wants to be the
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: peace broker, and Pakistan Islama bad has kind of put
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: his hand up and said, we can do it, we
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: can host the talks. Happy to China is now joining
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: forces with them to try and bring about a ceasefire
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and to try and get the Straight of Horror moves
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: opened again. The big question for well, mainly countries like
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: US in Asia that are more dependent on the Straight
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: for oil, is whether the Americans will just pull out,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: not worry about doing anything with the Straight, try and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: leave it up to everybody else when everybody else actually
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't doesn't have much of a chance of doing anything
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: about it themselves. Time is seven away from six on
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: your rain bridge, and a very good morning to you
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: if you're just joining us. Mike is walking into the studio,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. Not quite sat down there, you sort
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: material We may have had an interview fall over. Okay,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to say the toll, well, we were just talking about tolls.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Sean has ticked in the tower earlier saying to the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: people are complaining about the tolls, take the old road
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: with less traffic. You'll know this from heading north. Yes,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: so fourteen dollars twenty return for what for tolls including
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the new section that they're going to start building.
• 30:44
  Speaker 17: So the total you mean, so for the double So
• 30:45
  Speaker 17: at the moment we pay two or three dollars, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 17: so you'd take that off, but you'd add the new one,
• 30:50
  Speaker 17: so you'd be paying seven each seven each way.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be happy with that. Yeah, and you can
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: always because this still is allway.
• 30:56
  Speaker 15: You've got it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 17: Well, the Lord of the Landers, you've got to have
• 30:58
  Speaker 17: an alternative, so you're not forcing people to pay, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 17: no one uses the alternative unless they live in the
• 31:03
  Speaker 17: particular region.
• 31:04
  Speaker 15: People are happy to pay. There are some things in
• 31:06
  Speaker 15: life that cost money, and we're happy to pay. Have
• 31:07
  Speaker 15: you seen the car sales numbers this morning?
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: Yes?
• 31:09
  Speaker 15: I did for March.
• 31:10
  Speaker 17: There's something going on there because I can't work out
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: first of all, this fomo. There's unquestionably pomo. People have
• 31:17
  Speaker 17: gone out and bought bebs and peahabs and all.
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: That sort of stuff.
• 31:20
  Speaker 17: But the other thing is, you don't just go out
• 31:22
  Speaker 17: and buy a car. No, And you know if we're
• 31:25
  Speaker 17: apparently we're broke, we're poor, we've got no money, we
• 31:28
  Speaker 17: need sandwiches and why aren't we getting cheaper gas?
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: But remember, I'll go.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Buy a car. Yes, but remember because we went through
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: four years of no one thought it was a good
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: idea to buy a big household item. Remember, and then
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: for the fifth time in December it was like, oh, yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we think just go by it might be time. Yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: so people obviously were dreaming of a car and we're
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: going to buy Yeah, I think so people have got
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: a bit more money.
• 31:53
  Speaker 17: The number well, so clearly, but anyway, the numbers numbers
• 31:56
  Speaker 17: are up. Record of the good thing is that it's at.
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: Fourteen one thousand cars for the month.
• 32:02
  Speaker 17: That's a really really good month. And you've seen loads
• 32:05
  Speaker 17: of ten or eleven thousand cars per month. So at fourteen,
• 32:07
  Speaker 17: that's it doesn't matter what sort of cars are sales
• 32:09
  Speaker 17: and sales and businesses business and if people are going
• 32:11
  Speaker 17: to afford cars in good luck to them. By the
• 32:15
  Speaker 17: reshuffle today, No, no, are you well, do you think
• 32:19
  Speaker 17: it's an odd time to do it?
• 32:20
  Speaker 15: Like, what do you mean easter Easter.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: In the middle of a crisis.
• 32:24
  Speaker 17: Well, no, I think it's the juxtaposition between what the
• 32:28
  Speaker 17: media wanted to be. I'm really old Thomas Cogland this
• 32:30
  Speaker 17: morning and the man that guy goes into the weeds,
• 32:32
  Speaker 17: doesn't he He's got this thing going. I mean, I mean,
• 32:35
  Speaker 17: we all love Thomas, but I mean, for God's like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 17: there's a couple of going Meaga may get and may
• 32:39
  Speaker 17: get in a promotion and Pink may get a promotion.
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: Yeah, are you changing your view of the world because
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: of that?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: No? I mean, honestly, I had heard that, And look,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true, but I sort
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: of believed it that Goldsmith actually wanted defense. Everyone's saying
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he's going to be attorney general, but that he wanted defense.
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: Really, why would you want it? Scase on the up
• 32:58
  Speaker 15: and up.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a sexy sort of portfolio at the moment, isn't.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's got all the money.
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: He's spending a bit of money.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Money.
• 33:03
  Speaker 15: You can go drive a tank.
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  Speaker 2: You're transforming something.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, I see if you drones?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got it.
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  Speaker 17: Didn't he look hopeless yesterday, so that this BSA thing,
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  Speaker 17: which is the biggest non story going because the BSA
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  Speaker 17: are pointless and useless in a waste of time and
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  Speaker 17: no one pays attention to them anyway. So so so
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  Speaker 17: Winston's out there again. We need to do this and
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  Speaker 17: we need to blow it up and we need to
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  Speaker 17: change it. And then Paul Goldsmith bumbles along with a
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  Speaker 17: folder fill of paper, going oh, well we're having a
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  Speaker 17: look at this.
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  Speaker 15: He's been looking at that for two and a half years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: I mean if he's if that's the sort of attitude
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  Speaker 17: you bring to a portfolio, the last thing you want
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  Speaker 17: to do is put him in charge of defense, do
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  Speaker 17: you I mean what I'm saying. By the way, just quickly,
• 33:41
  Speaker 17: did you see did you see this? Is like my friend,
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  Speaker 17: did you see Albanesi last night?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 15: What a try hard was that?
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  Speaker 17: Very don't panic Australia and I had Easter and don't panic.
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  Speaker 2: Opening with my fellow Australians. You're not the second president anyway.
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  Speaker 2: There's more where this came from the complex. Have a
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  Speaker 2: great week you everyone. See you next week.
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