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- 0:00Speaker 1: The James Gang would be impressed. It's one more thing,
- 0:03Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty, one more And I refer not to
- 0:11Speaker 1: Joe Walsh's pre Eagles, pre solo career outfit, the three
- 0:16Speaker 1: piece Canadian classic rock heros, the James Gang, but indeed
- 0:19Speaker 1: the gun wielding Western bandits specifically train robbers. We talked
- 0:26Speaker 1: during the Armstrong and Getty radio show about the Mojave
- 0:29Speaker 1: Desert train heists that targeted like unreleased Nike sneakers and
- 0:35Speaker 1: how that's just becoming. It's a huge thing now. But
- 0:37Speaker 1: how they do it and how big a problem it
- 0:39Speaker 1: is was a little long to get into on the
- 0:41Speaker 1: radio show, so I thought I would describe it to you.
- 0:44Speaker 1: The thieves stealthily bored eastbound freight trains hiding out until
- 0:49Speaker 1: they reached the lonely stretches of the Mohave Desert or
- 0:52Speaker 1: high planes way away from towns. Then they slash an
- 0:55Speaker 1: air break hose, causing the my long line of railcars
- 0:58Speaker 1: to screech to emergencies, stop up. Then they go shopping.
- 1:02Speaker 1: How many people are on one of these trains? Probably
- 1:04Speaker 1: not very many people at all, right, I don't know
- 1:07Speaker 1: the official people that work on the train oh, no,
- 1:10Speaker 1: it might be you know, just a couple. Yeah. I
- 1:13Speaker 1: actually I looked into that for odd reasons years ago,
- 1:15Speaker 1: just how many people were on a train and because
- 1:19Speaker 1: I wanted to do a ride along from Reno to
- 1:23Speaker 1: Sacramento on one of the freight trains cool and learn
- 1:26Speaker 1: more about freight trains. But they were in the midst
- 1:29Speaker 1: of this bitter union dispute as the companies were trying
- 1:32Speaker 1: to go from like three people on the train to
- 1:34Speaker 1: two or whatever it was. And anyway, so it's very
- 1:37Speaker 1: very few people. But so investigators are describing a string
- 1:41Speaker 1: of at least ten heists targeting BNSF trains in California
- 1:44Speaker 1: and Arizona since March. Last March March, all but one
- 1:49Speaker 1: resulted in the theft of Nike sneakers, their combined value
- 1:52Speaker 1: approaching two million dollars. So they cut the air hose
- 1:57Speaker 1: and they give some of the particulars of this one theft.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Many were Nigel Sylvester air Jordan Fors Who's Nigel Sylvester.
- 2:07Speaker 2: No, no rapper, my son would know.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Not going to be available until March fourteenth. Expected a
- 2:13Speaker 1: retail for two twenty five prepare but go for a
- 2:15Speaker 1: lot more on the black market. So the theft crews
- 2:19Speaker 1: typically scout high value merchandise on rail lines that parallel
- 2:24Speaker 1: Interstate forty. They bore the slow moving trains, like when
- 2:28Speaker 1: they're changing tracks and opening containers, according to the Veep
- 2:32Speaker 1: of Operations and Deputy sheriff who's interviewed, so the thieves
- 2:36Speaker 1: are sometimes tipped off to valuable shipments by confederates working
- 2:40Speaker 1: at warehouses or trucking companies. Other times they simply look
- 2:44Speaker 1: for containers with high security locks the figure they're there
- 2:49Speaker 1: for a reason, then they cut them with reciprocating saws
- 2:52Speaker 1: or bolt cutters. According to Homeland Security, once the desired
- 2:56Speaker 1: loot is found, the thieves alert follow vehicles which the train.
- 3:01Speaker 1: The stolen goods are then tossed off the train after
- 3:03Speaker 1: it comes to a halt, either for a schedule stop
- 3:05Speaker 1: or because the air hose cut or they can cut
- 3:09Speaker 1: control wires inside signal boxes too to make the train stop.
- 3:13Speaker 1: According to federal agents, well.
- 3:15Speaker 2: One of the advantage of stealing these Nike shoes just
- 3:17Speaker 2: because my son so into it and he has several
- 3:19Speaker 2: pair of uh real expense, hev bought them in the
- 3:23Speaker 2: he got them for Christmas or birthday and the you know,
- 3:26Speaker 2: the the aftermarket is there's such an aftermarket already built
- 3:29Speaker 2: in for this. It'd be so easy to fence this stuff,
- 3:32Speaker 2: you know, because like Louis Vauton bags, it's there's not
- 3:37Speaker 2: like a built in infrastructure for those real bags to
- 3:41Speaker 2: be sold in the aftermarket for more money than they
- 3:43Speaker 2: go for, but there is for Nike shoes. Man, there's
- 3:46Speaker 2: all kinds of websites that do that, and he based
- 3:49Speaker 2: full of them. I mean they're all over the place
- 3:50Speaker 2: and they'll retail for two twenty five, they'll sell out
- 3:53Speaker 2: that day. That night, they'll be all over eBay for
- 3:56Speaker 2: five to eight hundred dollars and all over the place.
- 3:59Speaker 2: So it's not people are suspicious. They might be stolen
- 4:02Speaker 2: immediately because it's common every single day.
- 4:05Speaker 1: And it's the opposite of most stolen goods, which you're
- 4:07Speaker 1: gonna have to sell at a discount. Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So the cargo is then loaded into box trucks or
- 4:13Speaker 1: hidden in nearby brush until they arrive, provided the surveillance
- 4:18Speaker 1: crews that also follow the train don't detect law enforcement.
- 4:21Speaker 1: These tactics often employed by transnational criminal groups that consist
- 4:25Speaker 1: primarily of Mexican citizens from Sinaloa. According to the FEDS,
- 4:29Speaker 1: including the Cineloa cartel, there were at least sixty five
- 4:33Speaker 1: thousand railroad cargo thefts last year, which is up forty
- 4:37Speaker 1: percent from twenty twenty three. Hmm more lawlessness. The thefts,
- 4:43Speaker 1: which are typically classified as burglaries because they don't involve
- 4:46Speaker 1: directly confronting victims, which is the definition of a robbery.
- 4:49Speaker 1: They're believed to cost the nation's rail companies more than
- 4:52Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, and it could be an undercount
- 4:56Speaker 1: because railroads don't publicize all the theft sure.
- 5:02Speaker 2: All I can say is, if you're in a cartel
- 5:04Speaker 2: and listening a pair of Travis Scott mochas in eleven
- 5:08Speaker 2: and a half, throw you a couple of bones, and
- 5:10Speaker 2: oh lord, this is nobody needs.
- 5:13Speaker 1: This is breaking several different laws, and I'd be happy
- 5:17Speaker 1: to testify. Let's see. The company's crews, of course, are
- 5:22Speaker 1: instructed not to confront thieves, but to report the incidents instead,
- 5:25Speaker 1: but the crews rarely encounter them because the trains are
- 5:27Speaker 1: so long and thieves take care to evade detection. The
- 5:33Speaker 1: thefts tend to ebb and flow, often tied to the
- 5:35Speaker 1: release of desirable new products. In December, investigators saw rash
- 5:39Speaker 1: of thefts in which smart vacuum cleaners were stolen from
- 5:42Speaker 1: train containers. The Great roombahist.
- 5:48Speaker 2: That's so interesting. So like speaking of Travis Scott Nike,
- 5:52Speaker 2: they had a release on those two months ago, on
- 5:56Speaker 2: their latest there's only been like five Travis Scott releases.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I guarantee you when those were released, they hit a
- 6:02Speaker 2: train because boom, so much money to be made. Yeah,
- 6:06Speaker 2: those shoes, for instance, they sell out it two hundred
- 6:12Speaker 2: round two hundred bucks, they'd be worth fifteen hundred dollars
- 6:15Speaker 2: that evening one five hundred dollars per pare now easily so,
- 6:22Speaker 2: so this might be a lot of money in that.
- 6:24Speaker 3: This Nigel Sylvester guy is a BMX athlete. That's all right,
- 6:29Speaker 3: I'm looking at these shoes. They're ugly. Cartel can keep it.
- 6:33Speaker 1: It's not the point. But as Jack, who has a
- 6:37Speaker 1: really odd amount of information on stolen goods, informed us,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the stolen merchandise usually transported to California to be sold
- 6:45Speaker 1: or offered for sale via online third party Amazon nee
- 6:48Speaker 1: Bay resellers. Both Amazon and e Bay said in statements
- 6:52Speaker 1: that they have zero tolerance for criminal activities on their platforms.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Well, like, I know, you don't go to malls. They
- 6:57Speaker 2: work with law enforcement. You're not a mall guy. You
- 7:00Speaker 2: probably don't know this. But every mall now, and this
- 7:02Speaker 2: has only been in the last couple of years, has
- 7:04Speaker 2: got a store that sells all kinds of sneakers and
- 7:07Speaker 2: they're all wrapped in plastic. They're used, all of them,
- 7:10Speaker 2: and there are walls of these used sneakers. Oh, I
- 7:13Speaker 2: wonder what percentage of we're stolen. I always have just
- 7:16Speaker 2: assumed it was people that were able to buy them
- 7:18Speaker 2: at the original price and then we're willing to let
- 7:20Speaker 2: them go for more money. But there's every mall has
- 7:24Speaker 2: one of those stores now, especially upstairs walls.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. June last year, California local enforcement agencies and
- 7:32Speaker 1: Homeland Security executing the search warrant at eleven residences and
- 7:35Speaker 1: sixteen storage units relating to the ongoing train burglaries, arresting
- 7:38Speaker 1: forty three suspects and recovering from the storage units about
- 7:41Speaker 1: three million bucks worth the merchandise believed to him and
- 7:44Speaker 1: stolen from the BNSF train.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Come back for train robberies.
- 7:49Speaker 3: I'm looking at a pair of these. One pair of
- 7:52Speaker 3: these is on eBay right now. It's a size nine
- 7:54Speaker 3: for nineteen hundred dollars.
- 7:57Speaker 2: What are they?
- 7:58Speaker 3: The Nigel air drawlers? That what the model that was stolen?
- 8:03Speaker 2: Nineteen hundred bucks?
- 8:04Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen hundred bucks, but it's a size nine.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, I was. I was unaware of this whole
- 8:08Speaker 2: thing until I don't know, last year. We'd go in
- 8:10Speaker 2: the grocery store and Sam would say, Dad, that guy
- 8:12Speaker 2: where there's wearing fifteen hundred dollars shoes and You're like
- 8:14Speaker 2: what And you just looked like a pair of Nikes
- 8:16Speaker 2: to me.
- 8:17Speaker 1: No, no, no, huh.
- 8:20Speaker 3: I'd be worried I was gonna get jumped and my
- 8:22Speaker 3: shoes would get stolen.
- 8:24Speaker 2: I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often.
- 8:26Speaker 1: I remember when Air Jordan's first came out. It did
- 8:29Speaker 1: all the time.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Must depend on your neighborhood, you're, I mean, because and
- 8:33Speaker 2: they most young people like my son wear him untied. God,
- 8:36Speaker 2: if you just pushed him over, you could slight him
- 8:38Speaker 2: off his feet so easy. In there, not to give any.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Hints, yeah, yeah, human beings and what they value, Yes,
- 8:47Speaker 1: such an interesting study psychologically, no doubt.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Well, I guess that's it.