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Wrapping the Week with Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson: Election campaign, long weekends, business success · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean about the businesses, Katie?
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  Speaker 3: I know what you mean about the businesses.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out there this morning at 7 o'clock when doors
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  Speaker 4: are opening supporting the businesses.
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  Speaker 3: I'm first in the door. I'm loving the good operators.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So let's get this sorted out. Tim, good to
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  Speaker 2: have you along with us as well. Yeah, good to
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  Speaker 2: be here. So here's the first port of call for business.
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  Speaker 2: This is business advice. First port of call, if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to open your business at 7 o'clock in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: be open, be ready to go. Don't have a few
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  Speaker 2: people undoing their cardigans, grabbing an apron, turning the lights
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  Speaker 2: on and telling you why all the shelves are empty
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  Speaker 2: because they've only just arrived at work. Right?
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more.
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  Speaker 2: When you're open for business, you are open, ready. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like I start the show at 6 o'clock and go, look,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to do a whole bunch of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm a bit tired and I've only just arrived,
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  Speaker 2: so let me turn the lights on.
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  Speaker 1: It's on.
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  Speaker 2: It's set to go.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: That's business trick number one. Business trick number two, we've
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  Speaker 2: got to accept that the individual is concerned. It might
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  Speaker 2: well be more responsible for the success or failure of
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  Speaker 2: any given business than the wider economy or the sector
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  Speaker 2: that they're currently in. And the media don't understand that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they're always writing stories about businesses that are closing.
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  Speaker 2: Do they ever ask the question, is this particular business
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  Speaker 2: run by a dickhead? And if they ask that question, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Are you useless? And if they ask that question and
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  Speaker 2: the person goes, you know what, to be perfectly frank,
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  Speaker 2: I probably am, you've got a whole different story. Because
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  Speaker 2: all I'm seeing is that– and Greg and I had
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  Speaker 2: a discussion about this yesterday. All I'm seeing is that–
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  Speaker 2: Because Greg's in business. Well, he's been going for– Hairdresser Greg.
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  Speaker 2: He's my hairdresser. So he's been doing it for 25 years.
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  Speaker 3: Business owner.
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  Speaker 2: So he's a good example. So this is a guy
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  Speaker 2: who charges me $ 200 to cut my hair, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that's how Greg cuts it.
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  Speaker 2: Now tell me why he's been in business. Laughing all
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  Speaker 2: the way to the bank. So why has he been
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  Speaker 2: in business for 25 years successfully? Because he's bloody good
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  Speaker 2: at what he does and people line up to go
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  Speaker 2: and do it. People will spend money at businesses if
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  Speaker 2: they get something back for it. And bad service, lack
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  Speaker 2: of stock, endless excuses... is not it. Am I right, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: or am I right?
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  Speaker 1: You are absolutely right. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, sir. Completely.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's just— Hey, my brother has texted
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  Speaker 4: me taking umbrage with your comment that the choice of
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  Speaker 4: sunglasses Chippy was wearing, that's a superficial thing to say.
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  Speaker 4: His point is sunglasses are not superficial at all. They
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  Speaker 4: are integral to the character of a person, and he
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  Speaker 4: said there are no votes— No votes in those sunglasses.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen them.
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  Speaker 4: Are they dirty dogs?
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  Speaker 2: They're dangerously close to a dirty dog, but they do
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  Speaker 2: have a metal frame, not a dirty dog plastic frame,
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  Speaker 2: but they are of a shape. They've got a Dame
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  Speaker 2: Edna-esque shape to them. They go up at the ends.
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  Speaker 2: They don't go quite up at the ends, but they've
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  Speaker 2: got a pointy sort of look. They're sort of a
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  Speaker 2: squashed diamond shape.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think he's got bigger worries? Dirty Dog
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  Speaker 1: and Dame Edna? That's an odd combination. I can't see that.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, Kate. He's got much bigger worries at
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  Speaker 1: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is I wish we could name these companies,
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  Speaker 2: but we can't. But you would know the names of
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  Speaker 2: these companies. One's a supermarket. I'm watching the supermarket go downhill,
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  Speaker 2: not because nothing's changed apart from the owner. And the
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  Speaker 2: attitude of the owner, the stocking of the shelves, the
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  Speaker 2: hiring of the staff, the supermarket is driving the supermarket downhill.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas the guy who sold the supermarket that was good
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  Speaker 2: has gone off to the other supermarket, he's materially improving it.
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  Speaker 3: I think you've made your point. Are you worried you've
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  Speaker 3: not made your point?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm sick of.
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  Speaker 1: He's just getting worked up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sick of useless people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, what I'm sick of, I reckon election year
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  Speaker 4: is an interesting, fascinating study in human behaviour. I wonder
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  Speaker 4: if we deliberately choose amnesia, because I wonder how Or
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  Speaker 4: whether we opt out because we go, can't stand it,
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  Speaker 4: not interested. And then we're so horrified and shocked. Like,
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  Speaker 4: everyone's got a hot take on it.
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  Speaker 3: Like, the number of.
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  Speaker 4: People I've spoken to this week who still have no
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  Speaker 4: clue about who's behind opportunity and that it's a manufactured
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  Speaker 4: PR party who put in a CCAD for their leader and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and that they're virtually left of the Greens
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  Speaker 4: and yet trying to trick everybody they're centrist and people
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  Speaker 4: are falling for it. I can't understand how nobody, how
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  Speaker 4: people just check out They just go, oh, they look
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  Speaker 4: at the superficial. They say, oh, you know, refreshing new face, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But they never look beyond that. And I just don't
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  Speaker 4: know how you cast a vote that way. It just
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  Speaker 4: never ceases to– it's the same thing with the Labour Party.
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  Speaker 4: Same people who wrote the economy off a cliff and
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  Speaker 4: drove the country into the ground. And, you know, when
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  Speaker 4: I look at Chippewa, I just see MIQ, the PPE
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  Speaker 4: vaccine rollout shambles, crime chaos, gangs, education– We forget all that.
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  Speaker 3: They're the same people.
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  Speaker 4: And we forget it all and we just line up
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  Speaker 4: again to go, yeah, no, he was really good in
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  Speaker 4: the debate.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, what's wrong with us? Are you afraid you
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  Speaker 2: haven't made your.
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  Speaker 1: Point?
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  Speaker 2: I am. I am. Are you too sick of hopeless people?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of useless people. Give us a text. 9292
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  Speaker 1: on the text. What hopeless people are you sick of?
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  Speaker 1: Because I need a torrent of bile to.
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  Speaker 2: Get me going on a Friday morning. They're Oakley glasses.
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  Speaker 2: They're the sort of glasses that a runner slash cyclist
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  Speaker 2: would wear. And so Glenn quite rightly has pointed out
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  Speaker 2: Hipkins would not be a person who would justify to
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  Speaker 2: himself a secondary pair, i.e. a dress slash office slash
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  Speaker 2: work pair of glasses. He would get straight off his bike.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, is he a cyclist?
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  Speaker 2: He's a cyclist, yeah. Well, now there's an interesting story,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think I'm speaking out of school here
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  Speaker 2: because this goes to what I was saying a moment ago.
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  Speaker 2: The cafe where we would get the coffee, because Hipkins
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  Speaker 2: is coming in on Tuesday for his two-hour session. So
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  Speaker 2: the place we'd go get the coffee doesn't open until 7.30.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, is this where this is coming from?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, completely separate. It just
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  Speaker 2: happens to be. I didn't realize. So a cafe surrounded
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  Speaker 2: by businesses doesn't open in CBD Auckland. Until 7.30 in
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  Speaker 2: the morning. What the actual– Unforgivable. I mean, what the actual– Unforgivable.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, start a business or don't be bothered. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so Hipkins orders up. It doesn't really matter because we
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be going there anyway because Hipkins has ordered up.
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  Speaker 2: You ready? Guess what, Tim? Start of a 10. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: He's ordered two things. We said, what do you want?
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  Speaker 3: An almond latte.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, an almond latte and something to eat. What's he
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  Speaker 2: ordered to eat?
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  Speaker 1: A cheese scone.
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  Speaker 2: Cheese scone.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What do you say, Tim?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: Sausage roll.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, sausage roll. Even though you know if you'd followed
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  Speaker 2: the campaign, he's not eating sausage rolls this campaign. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to watch us. See, you're the uninformed voter
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  Speaker 2: that we fear, Tim.
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  Speaker 3: You're a useless person I'm worried about.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm sick of? I'm sick of people
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  Speaker 1: who've had a guts full of stuff. Here's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: We're apolitical in New Zealand. We are apolitical.
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  Speaker 5: We don't engage because we are not as politicised, polarised
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  Speaker 5: and weird as the Americans.
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  Speaker 1: We're just trying to make our way and that's a positive.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sick of the glistening, whinging and moaning that
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  Speaker 1: goes on because people aren't angry enough.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so sausage roll, what did he order to drink?
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  Speaker 2: So what's he having?
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  Speaker 1: He's having a cup of chamomile tea.
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  Speaker 2: Chamomile tea and a sausage roll versus an almond latte
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  Speaker 2: and a scone. What he's ordered is a Coke Zero.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, stop it.
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  Speaker 2: He's ordered a Coke Zero and an almond scroll.
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  Speaker 3: An almond scroll?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, cinnamon scroll. My apologies.
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  Speaker 1: Cinnamon scroll.
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  Speaker 2: A cinnamon scroll.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's nice. If you can get a good one
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  Speaker 3: of those, that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: But how do you dovetail a cinnamon scroll and a
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  Speaker 2: Coke Zero in with cycling?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, too much sugar. And first thing in the morning, shocking.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: No, you've got to get him off that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get it for him.
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  Speaker 3: Say you don't want to be part.
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  Speaker 1: Of the problem. Yeah, you want to have an intervention.
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  Speaker 1: I think what you need is to put down your
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  Speaker 1: Coke Zero. We'll get you a Fanta at 11, but
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  Speaker 1: not a Coke Zero.
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  Speaker 3: Homegrown, freshly squeezed grapefruit juices.
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  Speaker 2: Take one of those. I squeezed him.
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  Speaker 1: Are you guys growing the carrots? Get him a carrot.
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  Speaker 2: That would look stupid. If I just gave him a
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  Speaker 2: carrot and I said, here's a carrot. He's not a reindeer.
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  Speaker 2: I could bring him in a squeezed, what did we
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  Speaker 2: squeeze last week?
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  Speaker 1: Do you squeeze? Blood oranges.
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  Speaker 2: Blood red oranges. Absolutely sensational. Tim, quick question for you.
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  Speaker 2: How engaged with this campaign are you?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, I'm a bit of, you know, what
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  Speaker 5: is politics? It's not a hard question, Tim. How engaged
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  Speaker 5: is the game going to be?
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm into it. All I'm saying is,
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  Speaker 1: you're in for it. You know what, Kate? You're in
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  Speaker 1: for a big weekend. You're in for a big weekend
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  Speaker 1: if this is its tempo now. I'm into it.
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  Speaker 2: So have you watched all the debates?
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  Speaker 1: No, I haven't watched all the debates.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, how many debates have you watched?
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  Speaker 1: All of them. Summaries.
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  Speaker 2: So you've watched none of the debates or all of
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  Speaker 2: the debates. If I gave you a think, you're not sure?
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  Speaker 5: No, actually, I think we actually watched the Jack Tame debate.
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  Speaker 5: Watched that one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you watched the first one. You've watched none since.
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  Speaker 1: And then summaries. No, summaries of the others.
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  Speaker 2: Whose summary did you watch? You mean you go to
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  Speaker 2: a TikTok?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw the stuff one. I saw some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff one.
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  Speaker 2: That's it okay would you call yourself this doesn't sound
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  Speaker 2: good katie would you call yourself an informed voter as
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  Speaker 2: you enter the booth uh yes okay did any of
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  Speaker 2: this campaign change your mind in any way shape or form.
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  Speaker 5: Actually the uh the the strategic voting thing was something
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  Speaker 5: that's so that.
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  Speaker 2: Sparked that sparked a thought in your mind apart from
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  Speaker 2: that policies debates did any of it change anything There
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  Speaker 2: weren't that many surprises.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Katie?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, didn't change anything.
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  Speaker 2: That's my summation of this campaign. This campaign has changed nothing.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I've got an idea for Tuesday for Chippy as
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  Speaker 4: well as the Coke Zero and the Cinnamon Scroll. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: get a couple of members of the mongrel mob in
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  Speaker 4: just to.
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  Speaker 3: Take the edge off. In the studio, just a quick fire,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just a couple of quick ones.
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  Speaker 2: It's mongrel mob starter for 10. As funny as that
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  Speaker 2: may be, I'm not ruling that out. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: My problem would be I don't know any mongrel mob
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  Speaker 2: members and I don't know how to get hold of them.
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  Speaker 1: Get them to text in. 9292. I'm sure they're chipped in.
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  Speaker 3: Get Chippy to bring some. He knows heaps.
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  Speaker 2: You have a good weekend.