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Normally Podcast: Olympic Gold Pride, Newsom’s “I Can’t Read” Act, and NYC Subway Chaos · Normally

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Speaker 1: Akay on normally the show is normally, it takes a
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Speaker 1: little of loos gets weird.
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Speaker 2: I am Mary Cassick Cam and I'm Carol Markoitz. I
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Speaker 2: have to say that there was a security situation at
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Speaker 2: mar Lago over the weekend where a man broke through
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Speaker 2: the security perimeter carrying a shotgun and a gas can
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Speaker 2: just you know why not secret service ordered him to
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Speaker 2: drop his weapon. He instead picked it up and aimed
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Speaker 2: it and then they shot and killed him. And this
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Speaker 2: is not one of our three stories that we'll be
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Speaker 2: covering today. That's insane, it is.
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Speaker 1: I was somewhat grimly saying to a friend that next
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Speaker 1: we're going to have people complaining that, like, what is
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Speaker 1: this the kind of country you want to live on
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Speaker 1: where a man, a free man can't wander onto the
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Speaker 1: president's secure perimeter with a shotgun and aim at it
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Speaker 1: some some secret Service guy without getting killed. And it's like, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's actually how this works. And that makes for I
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Speaker 1: counted as the fourth assassination attempt, because I count Iran's
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Speaker 1: ongoing attempt to go after the president as one as well.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think we talk enough about that.
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Speaker 2: We really don't Yeah, it's crazy. It's just not a
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Speaker 2: big story. It's like, yep, another guy tried to potentially
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Speaker 2: assassinate the president. I mean, the president wasn't there, so
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Speaker 2: I guess that's really why it's a one day story.
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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, if this was happening to Democrats, can you
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Speaker 2: imagine what the New York Times would be doing.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there was also an attempt to assassinate or
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Speaker 1: a plot to assassinate russ Vote, the head of the
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Speaker 1: OMB last week. That also not a big story. But
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Speaker 1: these pop up all the time. As we always noted
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Speaker 1: the Kavanaugh assassination attempt, which was very serious post Dobbs leak,
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Speaker 1: that one not when we talk about either. So we'd
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Speaker 1: just like to keep tabs on these things as we go.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to keep mentioning it on normally
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Speaker 2: because it matters. It matters, So it does. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's have some good news to start the show. Us A,
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Speaker 2: us A. All right, that's all I got. You go.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the women's and men's hockey teams at the US
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Speaker 1: at the Olympics won gold. The men for the first
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Speaker 1: time in forty six years from since the very very
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Speaker 1: famous miracle on ice which was not the gold medal match,
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Speaker 1: but when we beat the Russians back in the day
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Speaker 1: and then beat you some one.
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Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to the end of that movie yet.
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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. Since the Lake Placid Games, that is the
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Speaker 1: first gold for the men's hockey team. Both women's and
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Speaker 1: men's won their gold medal in overtime with a golden goal.
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Speaker 1: Pretty amazing stuff. The men's game this weekend was on
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Speaker 1: at eight in the morning. I did notice that Kathy
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Speaker 1: Hokel she allowed everyone in New York to drink at
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Speaker 1: eight in the morning for the hockey game, and I thought,
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Speaker 1: you know what credit words? Do she like that move? Kathy?
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Speaker 2: Yep, She's like, how do you do, fellow kids? How
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Speaker 2: about some alcohol?
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Speaker 1: Would you like some alcohol? Let me let you do
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Speaker 1: that without the state coming down upon you. Such a
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Speaker 1: wonderful win for the US. It was over Canada. Both
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Speaker 1: wins were over Canada. The men's win was over Canada
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Speaker 1: two to one in overtime, and it was so glorious
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Speaker 1: and they were so happy. And Jack Hughes, who scored
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Speaker 1: the winning goal, had had his tooth knocked out with
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Speaker 1: a high stake, just a couple like earlier in the
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Speaker 1: third period, and he's out there with the craggy teeth
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Speaker 1: and bleeding and smiling and so resilient and gritty, and
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Speaker 1: then they all just talked about how proud of America
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Speaker 1: they were and how proud they were to be American.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so nice. He was just so he
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Speaker 2: was glowing, and the fact that his brother was on
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Speaker 2: the team. Mary Catherine, I just the whole thing I
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Speaker 2: thought was so beautiful and really we needed this moment,
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Speaker 2: although the people that need this moment, the raw raw
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Speaker 2: America moment, actually won't raw America anyway, So it's kind
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Speaker 2: of neither here nor there. But like, if this had
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Speaker 2: happened during a democratic administration, where you know, maybe we
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Speaker 2: were feeling like the country wasn't heading in the right direction,
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Speaker 2: we would still be like, yes, America, Yeah, we'd like
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Speaker 2: and we feel maybe like we needed this more than
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Speaker 2: ever at that time. I don't feel like that's what's
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Speaker 2: happening on the other side.
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Speaker 1: No, there is this thing where and actually the left
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Speaker 1: is sort of confused about it because we like Alyssa Loo,
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Speaker 1: who's the now gold medalist singles women's figure skater, huge accomplishment,
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Speaker 1: she's American, she actually was approached by the CCP to
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Speaker 1: be their proper and Gal and she and her dad
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Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, we don't do that. She
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Speaker 1: would if the lift is like, don't you dumb dumbs
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Speaker 1: know she's woke. Look at her hair and she has
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Speaker 1: different views from you. I don't care. If she's proud
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Speaker 1: of America, she's proud to represent us, and she goes
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Speaker 1: out there and does it with verve and joy. I'm
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Speaker 1: here for it.
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Speaker 2: That's all it takes. You know. We're really not that complicated.
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Speaker 2: We're like, you love America, We love America America too.
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Speaker 1: But there is a segment, unfortunately, who find it very
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Speaker 1: complicated to root for America. There was a piece in
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Speaker 1: the having to post was like, if you have trouble
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Speaker 1: waving the flag for America right now, you're not alone.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I mean you're there are too many of you, frankly,
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Speaker 1: but the normies are not worried about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah at all? Right, Yeah, it's they just I don't know,
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Speaker 2: it's disappointing that we can't be together. I mean the
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Speaker 2: other part of the wind where they brought out the
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Speaker 2: children of their fallen teammate, I don't Goodreau, Am I
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Speaker 2: pronouncing that? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I can tell this story, this one, this one is
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Speaker 1: close to my heart. I think it was such a
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Speaker 1: beautiful display of frankly masculinity. Like the toughness and tenderness
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Speaker 1: together of this team was amazing to see. Johnny Goodreau,
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Speaker 1: who was a NHL player, played at Boston University and
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Speaker 1: then went to the Columbus Blue Jackets is where he played.
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Speaker 1: He and his brother both were tragically killed on a
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Speaker 1: bike ride in August twenty twenty four at the weekend
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Speaker 1: of their what should have been their sister's wedding. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they were killed by an allegedly drunk driver who had
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Speaker 1: road rage, tried to pass somebody and hit them on
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Speaker 1: the side of the road when they were out that weekend.
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Speaker 1: His brother was a hockey player too. Goodrow would have
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Speaker 1: been on the Four Nations face off team that played
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Speaker 1: a year ago against Canada. He would have been on
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Speaker 1: this Olympic team, and those guys refused to forget him
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Speaker 1: as they were going through this process. They always had
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Speaker 1: a jersey hanging in his locker, and not only did
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Speaker 1: they not forget him, they hoisted the jersey on the
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Speaker 1: on the ice after they won they didn't forget his
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Speaker 1: family and his widow, Meredith was there with their with
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Speaker 1: two of their babies. She had a third one after
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Speaker 1: he died. Seven months after he died. It was Johnny
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Speaker 1: Junior's birthday. On the day they won. He turned to
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Speaker 1: and two of those players who were teammates of Johnny's,
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Speaker 1: after they took one team photo, skated over to the stands,
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Speaker 1: grabbed the two little toddlers three and three and two
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Speaker 1: year old, and took him to the ice for the
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Speaker 1: team picture.
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Speaker 2: And it was I had tears in my eyes. I'm
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Speaker 2: about to yeah.
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Speaker 1: Just so beautiful. And they've been there for the past
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Speaker 1: year and a half with this family, raising money for things,
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Speaker 1: making sure that everyone's taken care of, including Matthew's widow
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Speaker 1: as well, had a son after he passed away. They
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Speaker 1: both had two little boys. They both had a boy each,
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Speaker 1: and it was just really beautiful to see and I
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Speaker 1: think I wrote about it for OutKick. We have these
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Speaker 1: arguments about what masculinity looks like, and I think there's
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Speaker 1: a model right there, like these incredibly tough, resilient guys
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Speaker 1: who are willing to throw haymakers for their country, who
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Speaker 1: are willing to get their teeth knocked out, and also
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Speaker 1: can grab a toddler and take care of a family
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Speaker 1: and protect widows and children. Like that's what we're looking for.
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Speaker 1: And they love America.
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Speaker 2: Right extra but men, they're not so bad men.
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Speaker 1: And then they can go out and get drunk in
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Speaker 1: the streets of Milan and do Olympic interviews.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So the other thing going on with the Olympics
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Speaker 2: coverage is that Cash Battel was celebrating with the team,
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Speaker 2: and this is causing a controversy. I think it's totally fine.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I have no problem with an American
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Speaker 2: administration official celebrating with the American team.
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Speaker 1: What do you think a medium on It looks a
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Speaker 1: little try hard to me. But I Am not going
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Speaker 1: to make a big deal out of anyone having a
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Speaker 1: beer with those guys, because I would have fully do
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Speaker 1: it if I could.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, It's like if you were in
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Speaker 2: a role where you could go to something like that,
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Speaker 2: would you go? And I'm like, yeah, i'd go. I
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Speaker 2: don't even follow hockey. I would absolutely go have beers
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Speaker 2: with these guys.
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Speaker 1: I believe Gretchen Whitmer was at the games too, Like
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Speaker 1: this is something that the higher ups do. I think
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Speaker 1: I think people are free to ask how much of
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Speaker 1: my tax Paramonney are you using for that? And you'll
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Speaker 1: be doing something official. But yes, it's not super high
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Speaker 1: on my list. I saw that the president face timed
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Speaker 1: into the UH into the locker room as well. And actually,
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Speaker 1: can we play a little bit of Jack Hughes, who
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Speaker 1: had the first pregame interview as he was the game
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Speaker 1: winning goal. Here he is talking about what it means
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Speaker 1: to him.
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Speaker 3: I know, I love the USA, I love my teammates.
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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, the US or hockey brotherhood. It's so strong.
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Speaker 3: We have so much support next players, and I'm so
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Speaker 3: proud of the Americans today's pro This was.
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Speaker 1: Such an incredible game to grind out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're bleeding right through it just looking at
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Speaker 2: you right now.
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Speaker 1: Can you just talk about how difficult this gold medal
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Speaker 1: was to win?
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Speaker 3: This unbelievable game by Hellibuck, He was our best player
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Speaker 3: tonight by mile. Unbelievable game, unreal game by our team.
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Speaker 3: That's just a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there.
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Speaker 3: That's a great Canadian team. But we're USA We're so
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Speaker 3: proud to be Americans. Tonight was all for the country.
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Speaker 1: What does this gold medal mean to USA Hockey?
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Speaker 3: It's everything. Like I said, the USA Hockey brotherhood means
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Speaker 3: so much.
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Speaker 2: Look at these guys.
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Speaker 1: Weren't such a team.
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Speaker 3: We've been in there for two weeks.
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Speaker 1: We're such a team.
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Speaker 3: The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong, and we're so
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Speaker 3: proud to win for our country.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love it. It's so beautiful. His brother, Quinn scored
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Speaker 1: the overtime goal in the game that got them to
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Speaker 1: the gold medal game. And their mother is instrumental on
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Speaker 1: both national teams and played on a national team herself.
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Speaker 1: There's some wild that, Okay, Ellen, there's some wild lore
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Speaker 1: on these teams. One of the guys was a third
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Speaker 1: generation gold medal Olympic hockey winner, like his great uncle
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Speaker 1: and grandfather were on the nineteen sixty team, his uncle
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Speaker 1: was on the nineteen eighty team, and now he's on
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Speaker 1: this one.
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Speaker 2: Amazing, So cool. Yeah. Also, the Hughes family is apparently Jewish,
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Speaker 2: which is confusing to me, but every single Jew in
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Speaker 2: the universe has posted about this.
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Speaker 1: So they are. I saw her. Her maiden name is cold.
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Speaker 2: So wait, Jewish mom, hockey players, what you're telling me here?
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Speaker 2: No way, come on, I.
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Speaker 1: Got it, Ellen Weinberg Hughes, No, no way.
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Speaker 2: She was a hockey player. That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: It was a hockey player. So it Carol next gen.
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Speaker 2: I know. I just went ice skating for my daughter's
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Speaker 2: sixteenth birthday for the weekend. Yeah, I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: be playing hockey anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: I made my kids watch Miracle with me this morning
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Speaker 1: because last night. Sometimes if your kids are my kids
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Speaker 1: are not super into sports, my older ones, it's like
12:14
Speaker 1: the gene skipped a generation or something, and so I
12:17
Speaker 1: have to be like, there's a Disney movie about sports,
12:21
Speaker 1: so we could watch that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we started it last night. We had to
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Speaker 2: turn it off before it got too late. We're going
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Speaker 2: to continue it tonight. That's why now I know it
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Speaker 2: wasn't an Olympic win.
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, yeah, it's the one that everyone remembers.
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Speaker 4: Though.
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Speaker 1: They went on to win the gold by beating Finland,
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Speaker 1: and everyone was like, yay.
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Speaker 2: Right, we're up to the part where the coach tortures
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Speaker 2: them after their Norway scrimmage. The kids are getting a
12:46
Speaker 2: lot out of it. I'm really enjoying it. And I
12:48
Speaker 2: saw that our friend Guy Benson watched it last night.
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Speaker 2: Both of us took the same picture of our television.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it feels good to be American.
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Speaker 1: Get into it. It's such a beautiful thing. And that
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Speaker 1: all these all these families, like I said, supporting each
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Speaker 1: other and the stories the brothers in the generations is
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Speaker 1: just lovely to watch. More of this will take it.
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with.
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Speaker 2: More on Normally. We are back on Normally, where Gavin
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Speaker 2: Newsome is making news because he told a group of
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Speaker 2: people that he is just like them, and he meant
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Speaker 2: he's dumb, just like them. It's actually not the first
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Speaker 2: time that he's done that, where he touted his very
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Speaker 2: low SAT score and he said that he is. In
13:42
Speaker 2: this particular segment, he said, I'm like you, I'm a
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Speaker 2: nine to sixty SAT guy. He talked about how you'll
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Speaker 2: never see him reading a speech because he can't read. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I just don't buy any of it. I think he
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Speaker 2: is a very skilled politician. I'll just add that a
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Speaker 2: few days ago, Ted Cruz called Gavin Newsom historically illiterate,
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Speaker 2: and Newsom pretended not to understand what that meant. And
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Speaker 2: tweeted Ted Cruz calling a dyslexic person illiterate is a
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Speaker 2: new low even for him. But now being illiterate is
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Speaker 2: something to be proud of. And to tell a room
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Speaker 2: full of people that you can't read.
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Speaker 1: I that take on the Ted Cruz hit was so lame,
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Speaker 1: and it did indicate that maybe he can't read or
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Speaker 1: perhaps does not know what historically illiterate means. I think
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Speaker 1: what he's doing here. Okay, So there's one accusation, which
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Speaker 1: is this is a racial thing. Now we have looked
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Speaker 1: into this. The crowd that he was speaking to in
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Speaker 1: this event. He is in Atlanta speaking to Democrats, being
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Speaker 1: interviewed by Mayor Andre Dickens, who is a black man,
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Speaker 1: and there is some implication that this is a black
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Speaker 1: crowd and that he's trying to connect with this black
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Speaker 1: crowd by saying I also can't read, guys. But Carol
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Speaker 1: and I got some intel and.
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Speaker 2: Some from Chris Ruffo, who I was arguing with about this,
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Speaker 2: because he said, I know we're supposed to laugh at Newsom,
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Speaker 2: but he's an impressive talent whose political instincts are vastly
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Speaker 2: superior to the perfect test score. Nerds who like to
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Speaker 2: think they can outsmart him. You can put up as
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Speaker 2: many IQ charts as you want, but it's a mistake
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Speaker 2: to underestimate Newsom. I completely fully agree with this. I
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Speaker 2: still want to point and laugh at Newsome we're saying
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Speaker 2: stuff like this because it reads so unbelievably fake to me.
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Speaker 2: But Chris Ruffo was the one who said it wasn't
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Speaker 2: a black group or a black crowd. That was good
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Speaker 2: to know because the original clip I saw identified it
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Speaker 2: as a black crowd.
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Speaker 1: Right, And here's the thing, So it's not that mistake.
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Speaker 1: I think instead, what he's doing is he is establishing
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Speaker 1: a Biden stutter for himself.
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Speaker 2: That's such a good, good analogy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's doing it too obviously, like
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Speaker 1: I've why can everyone can see what you're doing? You've
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Speaker 1: hit it four times in the past week. This is
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Speaker 1: his tour for his memoir young Man in a Hurry,
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Speaker 1: which is a little wishcasting because he ain't young no more.
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Speaker 1: But but I think what he's doing is he's creating
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Speaker 1: a sympathetic excuse something he overcame as a as a
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Speaker 1: struggle part of his biography that he can then blame
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Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes on in the future, and he
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Speaker 1: can then turn around on people who notice his mistakes
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Speaker 1: by saying, how dare you notice that I'm dyslexic? A
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Speaker 1: couple of things, Yeah, too obvious for me. He's hit
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Speaker 1: it too many times, too hard this week. I get
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. The other one is if you've overcome something,
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Speaker 1: you can't use it and it is an excuse for
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Speaker 1: your mistakes. You've either been strong and overcome and struggled,
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Speaker 1: or you have not overcome and you can continue to
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Speaker 1: blame it forever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, let's actually roll that clip so people can
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Speaker 2: hear exactly what he said.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not trying to impress you.
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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to impress upon you.
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Speaker 4: I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know,
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Speaker 4: I'm a nine to sixty SAT guy. Huh. And I'm
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Speaker 4: not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act
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Speaker 4: all there. If you got nine forty but literally a
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Speaker 4: nine sixty s a T guy, I cannot You you've
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Speaker 4: never seen me read a speech. Because I cannot read
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Speaker 4: a speech, maybe the wrong.
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Speaker 1: Business to be.
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that he also pretends to be
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Speaker 2: from this hard scrabbled background, We have another clip from
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Speaker 2: I think I believe it's last year where he's talking
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Speaker 2: about just you know, how tough he's had it and
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Speaker 2: how how he grew up real poor.
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Speaker 1: Here's that clip. You know, like the white.
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Speaker 6: Comes every day every day in the backyard, just bouncing
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Speaker 6: the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the
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Speaker 6: ball is just like fraying, man, And you're talking to yourself.
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Speaker 2: That's a whole thing.
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Speaker 5: So just and and then you know, then this student
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Speaker 5: that was shitty students in the back of his head
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Speaker 5: down all of a sudden started throwing the baseball a
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Speaker 5: little fashion and everyone else and started, you know, make
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Speaker 5: a few free throws because I was sitting there practicing
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Speaker 5: five hundred of them every damn night. And in high school,
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Speaker 5: I look up in the stands.
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Speaker 2: My dad's back up.
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Speaker 1: There, okay, and it's like, man, and.
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Speaker 5: Then he's bringing his friends and your captain of the team,
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Speaker 5: and you're like, you know, and it just saved me,
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Speaker 5: and it got me into college.
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Speaker 1: For contexts, can I just say his father's name is
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Speaker 1: William Alfred Newsom the third, So you tell me whether
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Speaker 1: it was hard scrabble out there, right, And.
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Speaker 2: This is from I have to I have to read this.
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Speaker 2: This is from a recent fawning New York Times piece
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Speaker 2: where they talk about how handsome he is for most
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Speaker 2: of it. But here here is the relevant part. His
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Speaker 2: parents divorce serves as a fit foundational event, the effects
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Speaker 2: of which he continues to process in the aftermath of
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Speaker 2: They're split. His traumatized young mother worked several jobs to
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Speaker 2: scrape together a middle class while his well connected father
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Speaker 2: brought him into a circle of political power brokers its
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Speaker 2: spectacularly wealthy oil errors. Mister Newsom emphasizes in his memoir
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Speaker 2: through various anecdotes, that it was his work ethic that
19:12
Speaker 2: led to success in sports, business and politics, but he
19:15
Speaker 2: does not deny that his father's friends were helpful along
19:18
Speaker 2: the way. Mister Newsom comes from a long line of
19:20
Speaker 2: figures who built in shaped San Francisco, and his family
19:23
Speaker 2: is so entwined with the power structure that Nancy Pelosi's
19:26
Speaker 2: nieces and nephews were young Gavin's cousins. John Burton, a
19:29
Speaker 2: former congressman who would become one of the state's most
19:32
Speaker 2: powerful politicians, sat in the bleachers to watch mister Newsom
19:35
Speaker 2: play basketball in high school. A close friend of his
19:38
Speaker 2: father's was the oil magnet Gordon Getty, who took mister
19:42
Speaker 2: Newsom and his sister on a safari in Africa and
19:45
Speaker 2: on a visit to the King and Queen of Spain.
19:48
Speaker 2: Those ties helped mister Newsom start a business that grew
19:51
Speaker 2: from a corner wine shop to a collection of wineries,
19:54
Speaker 2: restaurants and bars, and an alpine resort, and they nurtured
19:57
Speaker 2: a political career that began when he was appointed at
20:00
Speaker 2: as parking Commissioner in San Francisco at age twenty nine.
20:03
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't care what you got on the SAT.
20:06
Speaker 2: You had a lot of privilege, and in democratic circles
20:09
Speaker 2: I've been told that if you have privilege, you need
20:13
Speaker 2: to sit down let somebody else take your spot. So
20:15
Speaker 2: Gavin Newso time to sit down and do that.
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Speaker 1: This is the other reason for the disability. He can't
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Speaker 1: get through this as just a rich white guy. So
20:24
Speaker 1: dyslexia is the thing that he must tell us about
20:27
Speaker 1: over and over again to sort of say, like, I've
20:30
Speaker 1: got one thing no one knock against me, don't you know,
20:34
Speaker 1: But I just liked you went on safaris with Royalty
20:39
Speaker 1: as as a teenager. In my format of years. Can
20:41
Speaker 1: we also say what a tell it is that his
20:43
Speaker 1: first job was parking commissioner in politics, I am not
20:48
Speaker 1: looking forward to parking commissioner of San Francisco becoming a
20:52
Speaker 1: president of the United States. No, yeah, no things.
20:56
Speaker 2: Yes, it's stick with the.
20:57
Speaker 1: Lines man, go to French laundry and leave us alone.
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Speaker 1: I do think if you look at those two clips,
21:03
Speaker 1: he is getting feedback from the crowd. He's getting laughs,
21:07
Speaker 1: he's getting some sympathy. You can count on that being
21:11
Speaker 1: the same with media throughout this adventure. Yeah, although the
21:14
Speaker 1: Atlantic notably broke with the pack and said, hey, his
21:17
Speaker 1: actual record might be a problem guy since people keep
21:20
Speaker 1: leaving California. But that's the kind of reception he's going
21:24
Speaker 1: to get in a lot of places, and so we
21:26
Speaker 1: shouldn't discount even if you discount some of his skill,
21:29
Speaker 1: which I do. I don't think he's quite as slick
21:31
Speaker 1: as some others think he is, or that he thinks
21:34
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, but if he's going to work in
21:38
Speaker 1: rooms like that, and if the media is going to
21:39
Speaker 1: be nice to him, he's going to have quite a
21:41
Speaker 1: boon as he goes through this process.
21:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think he's quite slick. I think that
21:46
Speaker 2: he can be whoever you want him to be. And
21:49
Speaker 2: when he's having a conversation with Charlie Kirk, he's got
21:52
Speaker 2: himself a conservative son and he wants to point that
21:56
Speaker 2: out and all of that. He is a shape shifter.
22:00
Speaker 2: I think he can really adjust to the moment. And
22:03
Speaker 2: he already he's done stuff like you know, he's talked
22:06
Speaker 2: about how you can't have biological boys and girls sports
22:10
Speaker 2: and all that reversed himself shortly thereafter. He'll be back,
22:13
Speaker 2: you know. I think in the general, if he makes
22:15
Speaker 2: it to the general, I think he'll be right back
22:17
Speaker 2: to no boys and girls sports. He can go one
22:19
Speaker 2: way or the other. And you're right, the media is
22:21
Speaker 2: going to be giving him a pass, so it's not
22:22
Speaker 2: going to matter what he says, as it normally doesn't
22:26
Speaker 2: for Democrats.
22:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really needs what is all democrats kryptonite? Which
22:31
Speaker 1: is a follow up question, right, Like you need to
22:34
Speaker 1: be like, so what did you do about the boys
22:37
Speaker 1: and the girl?
22:38
Speaker 3: Yeah?
22:38
Speaker 1: I mean that's it. Yeah.
22:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Our other story today is Bernie. Bernie Sanders was
22:46
Speaker 2: asked a follow up question and it did not go
22:49
Speaker 2: that great for him. So he was asked, why is
22:53
Speaker 2: the US more successful? Why do we have more successful
22:57
Speaker 2: businesses than Europe? And he is just incapable of providing
23:02
Speaker 2: anything that looks like an answer. He goes back to
23:05
Speaker 2: his stump speech and talks about how Europe has free
23:08
Speaker 2: health care and college is inexpensive, never answers the question.
23:12
Speaker 2: And I love this. There was Bernie sat down with
23:16
Speaker 2: the New York Daily News, which is a New York
23:19
Speaker 2: City paper that does lean left. He sat down with
23:22
Speaker 2: their auditorial board in twenty sixteen, and they, ever so gently,
23:27
Speaker 2: just skewered him because he was incapable of answering any
23:31
Speaker 2: follow up questions at all. They were like, he wanted
23:34
Speaker 2: to break up the big banks. They were like, how
23:36
Speaker 2: he had never considered it, He had never even thought
23:38
Speaker 2: to like step two, you know, break up the banks. How. No,
23:42
Speaker 2: I don't know. And this is, you know, like we
23:45
Speaker 2: always talk about democratic privilege. They don't have to know anything.
23:49
Speaker 2: They don't have to have any actual policy ideas. They
23:53
Speaker 2: just have to be in the group, in the club.
23:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a fundamental problem with trying to redistribute
24:01
Speaker 1: wealth when you don't know where wealth comes from. That
24:05
Speaker 1: that is a problem for me. And there are way
24:07
Speaker 1: too many people in this country. I joke on X
24:10
Speaker 1: all the time. I have a picture of someone handing
24:13
Speaker 1: another person a copy of Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell.
24:17
Speaker 1: Like Bernie, here, here is a copy of a book
24:20
Speaker 1: you should look into. You because the invisible hand of
24:24
Speaker 1: the free market is so miraculous that in fact it
24:28
Speaker 1: does feel like magic. And you don't know how you
24:30
Speaker 1: get all the prosperity that you are offered every day,
24:33
Speaker 1: literally on your doorstep in this country, and not knowing
24:38
Speaker 1: that leads you to think that it does magically manifest
24:42
Speaker 1: that you can cut off and take as much from
24:45
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos as you want with no downstream effects at all.
24:48
Speaker 2: Right, I'll leave, He'll just stay there and let you
24:51
Speaker 2: take it.
24:52
Speaker 1: Well, and now their new thing is I think Bernie said, well,
24:55
Speaker 1: what we need is just a national billionaires text so
24:58
Speaker 1: they can't flee it and go anywhere. It's like, right, okay, Well,
25:01
Speaker 1: eventually you just won't have those businesses. You won't have
25:05
Speaker 1: people creating, because that isn't the same incentive to take
25:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of risk to create. And you don't know
25:10
Speaker 1: that because you've never taken one risk. You are Bernie
25:14
Speaker 1: Sanders who has enriched yourself only in government positions for
25:18
Speaker 1: the entirety of your life, harping on the rest of
25:20
Speaker 1: the people who are doing that work, and that that
25:24
Speaker 1: disconnect will sink sink a lot of prosperity in this country.
25:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just he never is capable of thinking through
25:33
Speaker 2: what where his proposals are going to go. It's just
25:35
Speaker 2: going to magically be okay. And you know the line
25:38
Speaker 2: actually was he said, you know, we need a national
25:41
Speaker 2: wealth tax. Where are they going to go? Saudi Arabia? Like, yeah,
25:44
Speaker 2: other countries are going to say, hey, rich people, we
25:48
Speaker 2: won't bother you here. It doesn't have to be Saudi Arabia.
25:50
Speaker 2: It could be lots of other places.
25:53
Speaker 1: If the Chicago Bears could propose leaving Chicago, then American
25:59
Speaker 1: billionaires can leave America. Like, you should not assume that
26:03
Speaker 1: or their wealth just can't do. Not assume that they
26:06
Speaker 1: will just sit here and do the things and take
26:09
Speaker 1: what them doing, because you've imagined that they'll do that
26:12
Speaker 1: for any price. They won't.
26:13
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Yeah, democratic privileged man, I wish we had some
26:17
Speaker 2: you know.
26:18
Speaker 1: I know, it'd be nice, make the job easier, it
26:20
Speaker 1: would be nice.
26:22
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more on normally and the
26:25
Speaker 2: debate over whether it's okay to urinate in the subway car.
26:29
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll have to break that down and
26:30
Speaker 2: find out. We are back on normally, where a debate
26:38
Speaker 2: is raging over whether urinating in a subway car is
26:42
Speaker 2: a big deal, And I do mean it's raging that
26:45
Speaker 2: count Daniella underscore one two seven. She's a really wonderful person.
26:50
Speaker 2: I've met her in real life. She tweeted, my husband
26:54
Speaker 2: was on a crowded train yesterday when a homeless woman
26:56
Speaker 2: got on, pulled down her pants, and peed all over
26:59
Speaker 2: the train in front of it everyone. He hasn't stopped
27:01
Speaker 2: talking about it for the past twenty four plus hours.
27:04
Speaker 2: It is the single most traumatizing thing that happened to
27:06
Speaker 2: him in New York City. Now, a lot of people
27:08
Speaker 2: are like, that's pretty lucky.
27:12
Speaker 1: Both of the that's also bad.
27:14
Speaker 2: I get that because I've had men masturbate in front
27:18
Speaker 2: of me on the New York City subway, so I
27:21
Speaker 2: get that a woman peeing is less traumatizing than that.
27:26
Speaker 2: But that's still pretty freaking traumatizing.
27:30
Speaker 1: Well, and the viral response to this is I've been
27:34
Speaker 1: on the subway with homeless people that Pede screamed all
27:36
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. It was mildly uncomfortable, but truly didn't
27:39
Speaker 1: impact my day in any way. Maybe your husband needs
27:42
Speaker 1: to toughen up and a lot. To be fair, a
27:45
Speaker 1: lot of centrist Democrats types were pushing back on this, like,
27:48
Speaker 1: we're done with this argument. Normal people will not listen
27:52
Speaker 1: to this argument because the idea that you with your
27:55
Speaker 1: family as a as a cost of writing the public
28:00
Speaker 1: transportation you're already paying for via taxes and fairs, is
28:04
Speaker 1: that you have to watch people have mental breakdowns and
28:07
Speaker 1: maybe be violently accosted. Yeah, no, thanks, No if you
28:11
Speaker 1: tell people, oh, you're just a wuss, if you don't
28:13
Speaker 1: like that, that's not a winning message.
28:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been saying this about New York for a
28:18
Speaker 2: while in that I grew up in New York when
28:20
Speaker 2: it was very dangerous in the eighties, and it was
28:24
Speaker 2: extremely high crime and it was not a great place
28:27
Speaker 2: to be. But what I think is different about this
28:31
Speaker 2: current moment in New York is that nobody in the
28:33
Speaker 2: eighties was like, crime is not that bad, And that
28:37
Speaker 2: is what has concerned me about New York's trajectory over
28:40
Speaker 2: the last few years. It isn't that things are getting
28:42
Speaker 2: progressively worse there, which is bad in and of itself,
28:45
Speaker 2: but it's this reaction of if you say anything about it,
28:49
Speaker 2: you're the bad person. And we talked about this a
28:51
Speaker 2: few weeks ago with the David Sadaris piece about getting
28:54
Speaker 2: bit by a dog and how you know Jrump or no, yeah,
28:59
Speaker 2: and how it read to people as pro Trump if
29:02
Speaker 2: you complained about being bit by a homeless person's dog,
29:05
Speaker 2: and his joke was like, the only way that he
29:07
Speaker 2: can get sympathy is if he pretended the dog was
29:10
Speaker 2: named Trumper. And you know, and this is crazy, It's crazy.
29:15
Speaker 1: The noticing of crime is not the problem. The noticing
29:19
Speaker 1: of social unrest is not the problem. The social unrest
29:22
Speaker 1: in the crime are the problem. And over and over
29:26
Speaker 1: and over again in governance, democrats put the needs and
29:32
Speaker 1: the wants of those committing the social unrest and the
29:35
Speaker 1: crime above those who are affected by the social unrest
29:39
Speaker 1: in the crime. I've got a great example from this
29:41
Speaker 1: week in northern Virginia, where our Soros fundid liberal prosecutor
29:46
Speaker 1: Steve Descano took a bogus insanity plea from a murderer
29:52
Speaker 1: a confessed murderer with a written plan entitled the Plan.
29:56
Speaker 1: Oh you then took to a couple house, murdered the
30:01
Speaker 1: husband while lying in his bed, shot him ten times
30:03
Speaker 1: execution style with his children in the house. And because
30:08
Speaker 1: our prosecutor's office really is out of practice for prosecuting,
30:12
Speaker 1: they take far more insanity, please than the average prosecutor's office.
30:17
Speaker 1: And even though this was a slam dunk case with
30:19
Speaker 1: all sorts of admissions and forensics and everything, they go,
30:24
Speaker 1: let's just send him to a mental health facility. We'll
30:26
Speaker 1: deal with it later, yeah, And like he will be
30:28
Speaker 1: up for release from a mental health facility frequently soon.
30:33
Speaker 1: And this happens over and over and over again because
30:37
Speaker 1: that guy is put above the victim's family period and
30:40
Speaker 1: the rest of the people who will be threatened by him.
30:42
Speaker 2: Right, And that's the thing. It's that the Democrats can't
30:46
Speaker 2: get their leftist flank in line on stuff like this.
30:49
Speaker 2: They did, You're right, there was a change. There was
30:52
Speaker 2: definitely a shift in tone. If this had happened this
30:55
Speaker 2: conversation in twenty twenty one, the Democrats would have largely
30:59
Speaker 2: all raised their hands and been like peeing on the
31:01
Speaker 2: subway is good actually, because they did stuff like that
31:04
Speaker 2: depens you up the subway, yes right right, and you're
31:09
Speaker 2: racist if you don't think so. So I'm glad there's
31:13
Speaker 2: that shift, but they have to enforce that. What ends
31:16
Speaker 2: up happening is that this compassion that they all want
31:18
Speaker 2: to give these crazy people, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't
31:22
Speaker 2: just hurt the regular people on the subway. It actually
31:25
Speaker 2: hurts the mentally ill as well, as we pointed out
31:28
Speaker 2: on this show. I think it was eighteen total people
31:32
Speaker 2: died in the cold because maum Donnie may or Mumdannie
31:36
Speaker 2: of New York City decided not to clear homeless encampments
31:39
Speaker 2: because he was trying to be compassionate. How is it
31:42
Speaker 2: compassionate to let people die in the freezing cold on
31:44
Speaker 2: the street like it's not and they think they're the
31:48
Speaker 2: good guys. So Democrats need to figure out a way
31:51
Speaker 2: to really get the leftists on board with some kinds
31:56
Speaker 2: of positions of sanity. Otherwise, like it just it's going
31:59
Speaker 2: to continue to head in this direction, because it was
32:02
Speaker 2: heading in this direction until the American people woke up.
32:05
Speaker 1: Well, And this is why to this day I saw
32:07
Speaker 1: some pulling from just this weekend where on major issues
32:10
Speaker 1: like crime, immigration, still, and the direction of the country,
32:14
Speaker 1: Republicans lead Democrats by one or two points. Now, that
32:17
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's going to save them from the midterms.
32:19
Speaker 1: I don't think it will. But the fact that Democrats
32:22
Speaker 1: lost that much ground, and even at this point in
32:25
Speaker 1: Trump's administration, with the media completely lined up against less it, Yeah,
32:31
Speaker 1: they still can't get over those numbers, I think is
32:35
Speaker 1: indicative of how far gone they are. And a couple
32:38
Speaker 1: of people tweeting, sensibly from the left on X is
32:41
Speaker 1: not going to be enough to put them back in
32:43
Speaker 1: a normal place.
32:44
Speaker 2: Right, You're going to have to just stay out loud.
32:46
Speaker 2: Letting homeless people freeze to death is not good policy.
32:50
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a blizzard coming up in New York,
32:52
Speaker 1: so well, I guess we'll test that notion and we'll
32:54
Speaker 1: see if he'll be clearing them.
32:55
Speaker 3: Now.
32:55
Speaker 1: I do think somewhere in the middle there they were like, oh,
32:58
Speaker 1: maybe fewer deaths is what we should be doing.
33:01
Speaker 4: You know.
33:01
Speaker 2: Actually a funny not funny, I shouldn't say it's funny,
33:04
Speaker 2: But a point that I haven't seen anybody make about
33:08
Speaker 2: the eighteen homeless deaths is that a lot of those
33:10
Speaker 2: people had homes and they were, you know, people with
33:13
Speaker 2: drug or alcohol problems who you know, it's what we
33:16
Speaker 2: used to have the drunk tank for. And because that's
33:19
Speaker 2: no longer compassionate, it's no longer compassionate to take somebody
33:22
Speaker 2: who's inebriated off the streets. These people who actually had
33:26
Speaker 2: homes died on the streets of New York City. That
33:29
Speaker 2: in that cold, it's awful.
33:31
Speaker 1: Methinks that if there were a Republican mayor who had
33:33
Speaker 1: made that decision, we hear more about that.
33:36
Speaker 2: But yeah, absolutely, you know, I don't want to end
33:39
Speaker 2: us on a bummer, so I'm going to take us
33:40
Speaker 2: back to the first segment. We forgot to mention that
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33:47
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33:57
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Speaker 1: It's true, he's the best. We love it so much,
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Speaker 1: and those guys, this is a great story for you, Carol.
34:12
Speaker 1: They were supposed to fly back to New York, but
34:14
Speaker 1: because of the blizzard, they won't be partying in New York.
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