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AEW Hot Topics | Golden Lovers - what? · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition six five four three two one zero
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  Speaker 1: All engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Cognition with the aw Fan podcast team. This is Kelson
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  Speaker 2: and we've got a lot to talk about. Guys. We
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  Speaker 2: got a full house of panelists here tonight, so thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much for showing up. We're broadcasting live on
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  Speaker 2: x We're also broadcasting live on Twitch and you'll be
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  Speaker 2: able to hear this Wednesday morning on your favorite podcast provider,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or whatnot. Let's start talking
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  Speaker 2: about some uh, some interesting stuff. The first thing I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about is the Continental Class on Dynamite
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. We've got two Gold League matches and one
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  Speaker 2: Blue League match, so well, let's start talking about the
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  Speaker 2: Blue League. The Blue League tomorrow night. Kazuka Kazuchika Okada
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  Speaker 2: versus the Bastard Pack, and then we have Kyle Fletcher
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  Speaker 2: against Kevin Knight. Now Kyle Fletcher has three points, Pack
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  Speaker 2: has three points, and Kevin Knight has three points. All
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  Speaker 2: three of those gentlemen have three points. Of course, Kazuko
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  Speaker 2: Kata lost his opening match to Kyle Fletcher.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't Yeah, so that of course.
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  Speaker 2: Okata Speedball Mike Bailey and Darby Allen have zero points
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  Speaker 2: because they lost their first match. So this is the
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  Speaker 2: second match. What do you guys think? Let's start with
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  Speaker 2: Kazuko Okada and the bastard Pack. What do you think.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Ocada? I think this will be
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  Speaker 3: reminiscent of their match at Dynasty last year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: park Park looking very strong, you know, taking it to Ocada.
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  Speaker 3: But Ocada just being the big match guy, especially when
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  Speaker 3: his I don't want to say in bags against the
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  Speaker 3: wall after one loss, but he's going to be looking
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  Speaker 3: to prove that loss was just a that was a
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  Speaker 3: one time thing. It ain't happening again. Nobody's taken that
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  Speaker 3: title from him like one loss. Okada is far more
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  Speaker 3: dangerous than champion Okada.
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  Speaker 2: Right right now, I can agree with you there. What
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  Speaker 2: about what about the rest of you? What do you
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  Speaker 2: guys think?
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  Speaker 4: My brain says Okada, but my heart says Pack, or
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  Speaker 4: rather my gut. I mentioned last week that I thought,
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  Speaker 4: uh Pack sorry was going to run roughshod through this
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  Speaker 4: tournament and be like a surprise winner of the whole thing. Possibly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think I it could easily go either way, but
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  Speaker 4: I think Pack's probably gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Look, do you think they're doing this with Kazuska Cotta?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna do it Eddie Kingston with him?
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  Speaker 2: If you remember the First Continental Classic, Eddie Kingston lost
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  Speaker 2: his first two matches and of course went on to
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  Speaker 2: win it. Do you think they're doing something similar with
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  Speaker 2: uh with Okada on this one?
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  Speaker 3: Who?
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  Speaker 5: I certainly you know that.
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  Speaker 6: That's the one thing I dislike about this tournament is
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  Speaker 6: the first three years have kind of been predictable, kind
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  Speaker 6: of what's gonna happen. There's not a lot that's like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Karda lost his first match, kind of figured
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  Speaker 6: out what's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: But no, I don't know. I think I think is
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  Speaker 5: gonna I don't think he's gonna lose again. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't see him beaten. I don't see Pop beating tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with Sutton. I don't think this that
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  Speaker 7: story for Eddie made sense of the time. I don't
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  Speaker 7: think that's a story like Okada needed to pull himself
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  Speaker 7: up by his bootstraps to you know, fulfill his destiny,
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  Speaker 7: which was the Eddie storyline. I don't see any reason
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  Speaker 7: for Ocottay two losses in a row. Story Wise, I
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  Speaker 7: could see this being a draw, though, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: could see I think the first week and maybe this week,
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  Speaker 7: but I think especially the first week was was them
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  Speaker 7: just saying, hey, anybody can lose in this tournament, and
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  Speaker 7: it was clear, like I didn't think Fletcher was gonna win.
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  Speaker 7: I was surprised actually on all the victories the first night,
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  Speaker 7: and I think I think that's just kind of the
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  Speaker 7: way they're going to go here. Uh, they have an
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  Speaker 7: idea who who is going to be in the finals
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  Speaker 7: for sure, but I just think this year may just
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  Speaker 7: be the this is the Banger tournament, and the people
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  Speaker 7: that need to win and the people that'll give points
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  Speaker 7: to just to put them in the semis. I don't
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  Speaker 7: think we're gonna have too many other storylines coming out
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  Speaker 7: of it other than that.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're It's interesting what you said that you
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  Speaker 2: were surprised at who won last week when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the Gold League Butcher beat Ocatta, Kevin Knight beat Darby,
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  Speaker 2: Allen Pack beat Speedball Mike Bailey, and I think out
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  Speaker 2: of those three, maybe it wasn't a surprise that Pack
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  Speaker 2: beat Speedball. But the Kevin Knight beating Darby, Allen was
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  Speaker 2: kind of surprised. Fletcher beating the greatest tournament wrestler ever
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  Speaker 2: was a you know, big feather in his cap.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there was. I'm sorry there was another upset
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  Speaker 7: that night. It wasn't in the league that I was
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  Speaker 7: surprised about. But yeah, I didn't think either of those
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  Speaker 7: were going to go that way. I thought I thought
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  Speaker 7: Darby was going to get the win over Pack, right,
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  Speaker 7: not Pack Pack, And I did not think Fletcher. I
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  Speaker 7: thought they would maybe do the tie route because they
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  Speaker 7: do points for that with Fletcher and Olkata. But no, man,
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  Speaker 7: they gave my guy that clean win and kept that
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  Speaker 7: build going without that title.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I'm glad that they did clean wins
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  Speaker 2: in the first week. Anybody else have any thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: the Gold League before we move on to the Blue League.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so the Blue League. We only have one
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  Speaker 2: match in the Blue League this week on Dynamite, and
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  Speaker 2: that is going to be Claudio Castignoli against John Moxley,
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  Speaker 2: Battle of the Death Riders. Of course, John Moxley, Claudio
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  Speaker 2: Casigi and Kenoski Takeshta won their three matches or won
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  Speaker 2: their first match. I should say the losers were Roderick Strong,
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  Speaker 2: Mascara Dorata and Orange Cassidy. And I would be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you. I don't know how you guys feel, but I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't surprised by any of those results. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: any of those were shocking at all.
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  Speaker 7: No, clision was very predictable. But those matchups weren't screaming
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  Speaker 7: upset either, you know what I mean? Like, I think
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  Speaker 7: I think the Legito cot of Kyle Fletcher in the
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  Speaker 7: the Kevin Knight and uh, who did you.
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  Speaker 2: Wrestle shit Kevin Knight Darby at Arby Darby?
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  Speaker 7: Like, like, those weren't ones that I They weren't paired
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  Speaker 7: up where it was obvious. So I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Closion was just very predictable. Calson to your point, I'm rambling. Sorry, Well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta say one thing about the Blue League match on Dynamite,
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  Speaker 2: Claudio Casauli against John Moxley. I hope to God that
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  Speaker 2: that one is not a draw. I I do want
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  Speaker 2: to see a winner in that one. I want to
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  Speaker 2: be I want to to be a normal match. What
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  Speaker 2: you would expect Claudio to do and what you would
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  Speaker 2: expect Moxley to do. I don't want them to hold
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  Speaker 2: back or show do too don't show too much respect
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  Speaker 2: and friendship.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the template for that go ahead and that I'm.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry, no, no, it's okay. I was just saying that
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  Speaker 8: I really like to see them let go and really
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  Speaker 8: have a really good match. It has the potential, sure does.
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  Speaker 4: Let us not forget that pretty much every single member
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  Speaker 4: of the Death writers was giving Moxi evil eye after
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  Speaker 4: a after full gear. So yeah, I think we may
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  Speaker 4: be able to be about to see something spicy. I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean what I was going to
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  Speaker 2: say is that the way Marina Shaper was looking at
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  Speaker 2: job Moxley, it was like that was like every man's
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  Speaker 2: ex wife, you know, that was like god, just you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just I wanted to curl up in the corner
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  Speaker 2: suck of my thumb in a fetal position.
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  Speaker 7: So if you're booking this, and I think most of
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  Speaker 7: us here agree that someone's gonna stab mox in the back,
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  Speaker 7: it's just who's going to take over after him. People
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  Speaker 7: don't know. But like, if Max loses the Claudia and
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  Speaker 7: I think that's the way they're going to go. Here,
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  Speaker 7: he does one of those promos after where he's still
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  Speaker 7: trying to convince them he's the real winner because of
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  Speaker 7: some thing that other you know thing that happened, just
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  Speaker 7: like he was still the winner out of the match
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  Speaker 7: we all saw him lose. I think that's the way
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  Speaker 7: they're going to go. And if they do that, do
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  Speaker 7: they do another backstage thing or or do they like
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  Speaker 7: kill him in the tournament, Like does Claudio just end
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  Speaker 7: him right there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm thinking. Yeah, And it's if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, it is when you get the World's
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  Speaker 2: in and you have the two semi final matches, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's Blue one against Gold to and Gold one against
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  Speaker 2: Blue two? Am I correct in that?
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  Speaker 7: Cross?
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  Speaker 9: That's what I'm assuming as well? Yeah, yeah, I have
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  Speaker 9: to look it up. If that's the case. I think
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  Speaker 9: the two semi final matches should be Ta Keshta against Okada,
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  Speaker 9: which means one of them will win one of their
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  Speaker 9: leagues and the other will.
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  Speaker 2: Come in second. But the second, uh, Chris, you need
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  Speaker 2: the mute or somebody meets mute. The second one should
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  Speaker 2: be John Moxley and Pack because it looks like Pack
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  Speaker 2: has the most angst in the angst and is assumed.
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  Speaker 2: I would say he is. He has assumed a leadership position,
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  Speaker 2: facto leader leadership position in the death rids. I think
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  Speaker 2: pack is going to run the table on this one.
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  Speaker 2: I really do. I think that. I think that the
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  Speaker 2: semi finals at World Dead is going to be when
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  Speaker 2: the turn happens on Moxley.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if you're if you're booking him as the
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  Speaker 7: new leader. Yeah, yeah, running the table makes it's a
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  Speaker 7: smart move.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would completely agree.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of got to disagree on one thing.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that if you're going to have because
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  Speaker 6: we all know that this is leading to a Okada
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  Speaker 6: showdown where Okada's going.
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  Speaker 5: To turn or Takesha is going to turn face, leave it.
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  Speaker 6: On callis family the superstary should become. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: you do that in the semi finals. I think you
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  Speaker 6: have to do that in the final. It's a bigger
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  Speaker 6: it's the bigger match, the biggest match you can have
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  Speaker 6: come out of this tournament.
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  Speaker 5: At least to me, it is.
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  Speaker 2: I I know, I agree with you, but it's also
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  Speaker 2: super predictable.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's what they do with this tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it. They never but why does that have
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  Speaker 2: to be the finals? The finals are out? Is also
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  Speaker 2: a world end, world's dead, you can they're still gonna
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  Speaker 2: have the match. It's just the finals.
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  Speaker 6: I just I don't know. It just seems like it
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  Speaker 6: should be the final. It just seems like that's the
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  Speaker 6: the what the final match should be. I mean, doing
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  Speaker 6: it and you do it in the semis that if
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  Speaker 6: you know the match and if to catch the beats
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  Speaker 6: Ocada in the in the semi finals, they're all going
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  Speaker 6: to say, well, it wasn't the finals. People, you know
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  Speaker 6: how people can be They'll say, well, this wasn't that
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  Speaker 6: an important match, because yes it was a semifinal, but
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  Speaker 6: he still had another match to go. So I just
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  Speaker 6: think it's you could still do everything else. Just I
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  Speaker 6: think those two have to win their type, their their divisions,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to do it the right way.
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  Speaker 5: That's just me though, But.
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  Speaker 10: Be Ocada Cash is going to beat Ocada. I don't
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  Speaker 10: think you. I don't think you think. I don't think
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  Speaker 10: you can pass the tour. I don't think you could pass.
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  Speaker 3: I think is going to find a way to win
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  Speaker 3: and then he will be able to hold over Tichuester,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he still has his title because Tequesta
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  Speaker 3: is going to lose a Wrestal Kingdom, I believe, and
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  Speaker 3: he won at Wressell Kingdom.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, but is it Russell Kingdom after is okay?
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  Speaker 3: So that's the point. But Okada is going to beat
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  Speaker 3: Tikester and hold that over him, and te Testa is
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  Speaker 3: going to go into his Russell Kingdom Matt having to
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  Speaker 3: see Okada in the main event. Even though Tiquesta is
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  Speaker 3: the iw GP heavyweight champion.
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  Speaker 5: Tequest does not lose.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I get what you're saying, but
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  Speaker 6: the premise that it's going to be to Guess to
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  Speaker 6: say or Okata saying I still hope have my title
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  Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense because Taquest has not lost his
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  Speaker 6: title yet and I seriously doubt that they're gonna Then
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  Speaker 6: that's the other reasons.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we're getting a man.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, the.
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  Speaker 3: World's End is the twenty seventh. Russell Kingdom is the fourth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Ocada is going to say that immediately
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  Speaker 3: after the match. I'm saying he's going to say that
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  Speaker 3: after Wreussell Kingdom. All this is going to we're not
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  Speaker 3: going to see Okada or Tequesta right after World's End,
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  Speaker 3: is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I think before uh, that part of the conversation
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  Speaker 2: kicked off. Was it Jess or net that was trying
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  Speaker 2: to chide me?
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  Speaker 4: If we can circle back to the Death Writers thing
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  Speaker 4: for a second. I know that there is a strict
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  Speaker 4: no interference rule in place for the tournament matches, but
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  Speaker 4: what about after.
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  Speaker 2: The that's happened before, once the batch is over, don't
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  Speaker 2: forget you also could look at before.
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  Speaker 4: No it it would make more sense after because like
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  Speaker 4: after mox is knocked out of the tournament by assuming
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  Speaker 4: let's say, pak Pack, I need to get used to that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh then like I could just sort of like a
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  Speaker 4: maybe a thumbs down from the new king and then
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  Speaker 4: like the rest of like the Death Writers loom like
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  Speaker 4: from like the back, like a pack of animals and
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  Speaker 4: just as.
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  Speaker 2: Art right right now that that's a good, good point.
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  Speaker 2: I have a counterpoint to that, and I'm interested to
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  Speaker 2: hear what you, Jess said. Anybody else wants to chime in. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I have one sentence to come down to John Moxley
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  Speaker 2: versus the bastard Pack in the semi finals, maybe the finals,
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  Speaker 2: you never know, because that is another big match, although
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  Speaker 2: I think it is definitely more effective as the semi
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  Speaker 2: final match. That being said, I talked about a turn
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  Speaker 2: and everybody's expecting a turn. Everybody that I've seen posting
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  Speaker 2: on you know, Reddit, or on the discord or on
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  Speaker 2: other social media is expecting the turn time to do
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  Speaker 2: the unexpected. And it makes sense to do this. If
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  Speaker 2: you remember back in the Blackpool Combat Club days, who
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  Speaker 2: was it that turned her back on the Blackpoole Combat
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  Speaker 2: Club and walked away and left them hanging. It was
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  Speaker 2: the Bastard Pack. What if the death writers turn on
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  Speaker 2: the Bastard Pack and not on John Moxley because they
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  Speaker 2: see him as, for lack of better words, of cancer
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  Speaker 2: working in the locker room and in their training and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Just throw that out.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think I'd like that as my not
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  Speaker 4: quite as dramatic.
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  Speaker 2: It's not maybe not as dramatic, but it is probably
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  Speaker 2: more unexpected. I mean, you know, if there's one thing
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  Speaker 2: about Tony Kahan that he has a weakness in doing,
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  Speaker 2: is sometimes he outright telegraphs things, you know, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: the Continental Classic, whether it's even the owen Hart's been
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  Speaker 2: telegraphed pretty bad, you know, in the past, so.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I guess I wouldn't mind so much.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just because you can see something coming doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean it's going to be bad when it happens.
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  Speaker 2: No, of course not. But in some cases it was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the whole Ricky Starts winning the owen Hart
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  Speaker 2: that year was just awful. I'm sorry it was. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I did not enjoy that. It was just so telegraphed.
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  Speaker 2: You knew it was gonna happen. The matches were great,
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  Speaker 2: but there was pointless because you knew it was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody else have any comments about the Continental Classic or
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  Speaker 2: Dynamite or what they think is going to happen at
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  Speaker 2: the end.
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  Speaker 3: I just gotta say I love that all three of
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  Speaker 3: these matches kind of have their own story, not just
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  Speaker 3: as part of the Continental Classic. Like with Maxley and Claudio,
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  Speaker 3: you have this whole crazy death writers angle, what the
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  Speaker 3: hell is going to happen? U With Okada and Pocket,
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  Speaker 3: it's a rematch, which is all Those are always fun
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  Speaker 3: as long as if the first match was really good,
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  Speaker 3: which theirs was. And then I mean Fletcher and Knight.
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  Speaker 2: You have.
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  Speaker 3: If I went forward into twenty to twenty thirty and
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  Speaker 3: someone told me that Kyle Fletcher and Kevin Knight is
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  Speaker 3: the main event for all In, I would have one
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  Speaker 3: believe it, Like those two guys are the future of AW.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't. I can't argue that at all.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just think it's kind of easy. Even
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  Speaker 3: within the Continental Classic, there's still kind of the individual
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  Speaker 3: stories of the matches. You know, all three matches should
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  Speaker 3: be really good. I can predict winners, but I'm like
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  Speaker 3: with everyone, it's like, if I'm choosing one, it's like
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  Speaker 3: fifty one forty nine that way. It's like, but I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a nice deal for each match to have
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  Speaker 3: that as well.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, MK is in the chat and he said, wow,
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  Speaker 2: big group tonight, it really is. Thank you guys for
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  Speaker 2: joining us tonight. Let's move on because we have another interesting,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: interesting match going on on Dynamite and that is the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: second semi final for the AW Women's World Tag Team Championship.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: We have the Timeless Love Bombs against the Mega Problems.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys think here? Who's going to win this? Wait?
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: Is that actually their name?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I love it?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: It's wonderful.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so, but does anybody have anything about the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: match and not just the name. I don't know it's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: gonna win, man.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: I thought for sure the story coming out of Blood
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: and Guts was going to be the Timeless Love Bombs
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: getting their revenge on what do they call this, the
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: Mega Problems is their name?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: Getting their revenge and the Mega Problems and then facing
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: the Evil Dolls or whatever that called.
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: Things, the Evil Dolls, the Evil yeah, the Vampire Sisters
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: those but.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: I thought, and then they triumph over the last evil
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: team that you know, beat them in tune into their
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: life in the finals, but with I can't remember that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: I want to come leave with balls again with them
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: losing to the Mega Bators of Wrath or Wrath. Yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: the base know what's going to happen here, man, Like,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: that's out the window. So I can totally see the
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Golden Lovers, right.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to make a pupy right clean here.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You're not allowed to do that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: That's my genre that I got.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: I got way too excited about explaining this and forgot
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: everybody's name. Yeah, hopefully you're able to follow.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I was waiting for you to break out the old
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: cibon and garfunkle. I really was.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: I'll show Oh boy, I appreciate you for tolerating.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: My just wow. Remember kids, crack as whack.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: It's the time of love bombs and the mega problems
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: and the brood.
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: And all sisters I call them sisters and sin I
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: don't even know who they are anymore.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: There you go. Let's well, let's get back to the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: match itself. Who do you who do you think and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: who do you want to win? I mean, is there
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: is there a difference between who you think should win
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and who you who you want to win?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Timeless love bombs all the way.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will never not root for me to share
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: awa me.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: The only problem with that is is if you want
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: a traditional good versus Evil final, you have to have
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: the the the evil women win.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: They no choice in the matter, because it's just.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want a traditional evil final. I want to
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: fun teams that are going to have an amazing match,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Like not every match has to be heel versus heel.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, you know, Mina and Tony can
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: work a little dirty, you know, draw some booze from
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the crowd, but it's perfectly fine to have one. Like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: we like both of these teams. Well, you know, we
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: may want we may want to see this team win,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: but we'll be happy if this team wins too. Like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with having two fan favorite teams faced
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: off in a good match.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: You know, Chris, you say something that just triggered and
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: I'll go ahead and not time in please.
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Oh well, it relates to this a bit, and it
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: relates to the Death Riders. I kind of had a
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: theory that Tony Storm is actually going to do something
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: to John Moxley, and you all just made me think
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: about it when we were talking about who's going to
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: win this match, and we can we can get into
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: it with Poe Peari, but I just had I have
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: a feeling that there's something going on deeper with Tony
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Storm and John Moxley. So Barry go ahead, please, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: interrupted you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: Oh you didn't at all. I talk a lot, so
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: I think we were saying a couple of weeks ago
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: prior to like right after Blood and Guts are Like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: the finish of that match was great because of the
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: emotional connection with the best friends and lovers or whatever
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: of Tony and Mina, But Mina wasn't originally supposed to
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: be in that match, you know, just like Marina Shaffir wasn't.
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: And so I'm thinking, like Tony Kahan has an idea
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: where he books and he always gets back to what
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: he had planned to do. And if you look at
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: the finish of that match, I think we were talking
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: another team that would have kind of made sense with
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: would have been Chris Statlander and Willow. But I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: also thinking would that work with Willow and Harley if
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: that was an original finish they were going to do
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: with that too. So if they had went that route
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: and that was Tony's plan, they would in essence be
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: getting their revenge on the bad guys right now after
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: beating the Sisters of Sin and then the Mega Problems.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: So that was the original path they was going to go. So,
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: you know, in retrospect to the to the Babes Wrath
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: winning last week, which I thought was a surprise, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: would not be shocked if if the Golden Lovers not the.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: God like.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: And remind said and Tony, don't try the game and
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: I did it right the first time, I would be
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: shocked and lost. I'm going to think of it, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: they go with the mega problems. Here's the other thing,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: world for gidding.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Tony Cohen has a pension for putting tag all titles
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: on heels more than he does on faces.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So there's only one heel.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Team left, and they have to lose Mina and and
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: and uh have They have to lose in order for
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: that to happen. So I think that's the route he's
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: gonna go.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I should I should have.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: The biggest baby faces to push the new title, like
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: on your most popular wrestlers. That's not a bad movie either.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: If they go baby face, baby face to go ahead
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: and tell some them no.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that, I need to make a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: poster every week and just have the list of the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: names of people were talking about so that we could
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: tell everybody gets it. It's it's too funny. Yes, that's good. Well, well, look,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys think about this, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it from this. I did not expect
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the Sisters to send the lose to the Babes of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Wrath last week. I understand why they did, but I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: didn't expect it because I really thought that finally, finally,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: sky Blue was going to get or get her flowers
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and was going to have a chance to a real
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: chance to get any belt and be the first well
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: half what half of the first AW Women's World Tag
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Team Champions. Sky Blue has been working her tail off
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: for AW for years now and has really nothing to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: show for it except, you know, her audition for you
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: know Carrie, you know, with the buckets of blood that
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: was pouring down her, down her head and onto her
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: over her face, you know, And when I look at it,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Harley Cameron has been she's been a revelation. She deserves
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the belt. It was a topic on the subreddit just
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: this past week, when is Harley Cameron gonna finally get
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: her belt? This is before the match with the Sisters
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of Sin at the Babes of Wrath, But is Harley
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Cameron gonna finally get her belt? People were saying that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: she's going to finally get her belt probably, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in January. I think it's January when AW goes back
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to Australia for the two shows. Marina Shaffir is a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: replacement of Penelope Ford and she's just not got the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: try not to say anything negative, but she just doesn't
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: have the longevity as a wrestler. She doesn't have as
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: nearly as many matches as any of the other wrestlers
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: in this tournament, not just in the semi finals, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the entire tournament. She just doesn't. She's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: just not that person. Megan Bain on the ear in
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: hand does deserve her flowers because she wrestled like every
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: other day in November on two different continents. It's like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: her schedule has been amazing. So it's and then and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of course Mina share Cow, I mean Mia share Cow
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: is she's the pit eater. I mean, she's eating so
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: many pins. She did get a little bit of a
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: rub with the UH with the UH Interim Women's rh
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Women's Tag team titles, but that was taken away from
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: her by who was a Mercedes Bonette, and then she
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and she lost to Athena. Well, she's lost to everybody.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: She just eats pins. I mean, I'm really confused, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I'll stand by what I said earlier. I was really
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: hoping that sky Blue was going to get get a
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: belt out of this. I was really hoping. So maybe
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: she still will a couple of weeks from now, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: not right now. Anybody else with thoughts on this match
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and the tournament finals. All right, then, well let's move on.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to know because we don't really talk about
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Rig of Honor enough on this podcast. Final Battles coming
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: up on Friday evening. Who's going to be who have
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you here tonight? Are going to be watching Final Battle?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I probably am not.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Is one of those. I was actually watching the r
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Show before popping on here. You know, I really like
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the Final Battle card. There's a lot of people I
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: like in r OA. I just right now can't afford
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: the Honor Club and can't afford more than one pay
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: per view a month, and well, the world's end is taking.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Press plus like what's said, and I mentioned this before
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: we started recording. Final Battle is in my neck of
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the woods. I would like to go, but Tony has
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: a really weird habit of bringing shows to Columbus around
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: the time they're having having conventions and having shows at
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the conventions, which makes getting tickets for the show a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: whole ordeal. And it just makes me not want to
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: go see Ring of Honor when it's here because it's
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: such a pain in the ass to get tickets because
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: there's a whole convention suck.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the question was, is anybody watching Ring of Honors?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I am as I'm watching Final Battle? Is anybody else
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: watching Final Battle?
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Ten points? To pivot away from that, calson that was no.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so nobody's just everybody's gonna, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: say they're not, but nobody's gonna say they are when
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that wasn't the question. So there is absolutely nobody but
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: me watching Final Battle. Well, there is the problem.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Think there lies the problem. I think they're in lie
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I'll try it for the third time. I think there
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: in lies the problem with Ring of Honor as a whole,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that it's just not presented well. And I think a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with uh.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: W b D.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really needs to be a WBD property.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: They really need to get a TV deal with WWBD
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: simply because they can't advertise it. They don't. They never
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: do advertise it. If you think about it, what is
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: unless it's just in passing in like a five second spot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: You know, they don't mention it on Dynamite, they don't
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: mention it on you know, on collision. And I will
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: say this, I I don't think I've missed a Ring
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: of Honor pay per view since Tony Khan has taken
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: it over, and they are extremely entertaining and every bit
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: as good as you would expect a aw R o
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: H pay per view to be. And this car this card. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: there's some there's always some matches that are very weird,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: but this card has some really really big matches. You've
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: got the survival of the Fittest matches, which Ring of
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Honor does quite a bit for the aid for the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: ad for the Ring of Honor World Championship. Mercedes Monette
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: is defending the Ring of Honor World Women's TV Championship
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: against Red Velvet, which I mean Red Velvet could seriously
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: walk away with the belt from that one. That may
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: have been the plan all along. I think Red Velvet
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: deserves it. You've got Ricochet doing his first time defense
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: of the aw National Championship. We don't know who he's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: defending it against yet, but.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Is defending and stuff. Yeah it's Dalton Castle.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Oh it is Dalton Castle. Yeah, Well let's break some hearts.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you we're gonna have the uh, the Women's
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Pure Championship finals. Nigel Beginnis is going to be facing
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Lee Moriarty, Sammy gavara Is and The Beast Mortos are
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: both wrestling twice. And this is like the third pay
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: per view out of four because if you remember with
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Sami Guevara at Death Before Dishonor, he wrestled two matches.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: At aw All In he wrestled two matches, and now
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a Final Battle, he's wrestling two matches. It's not that unusual.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I looked it up and there's several a w Ring
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of Honor wrestlers that have wrestled two matches in one night.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Some of them have been, of course, like on r
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: o H tapings on the same night that they appear.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I thought him. I believe the last one to do
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it was High and in by a World. They wrestled
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: on Ring of Honor on the same night that they
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: stepped in for uh what's her name? Nixon Newell and
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Miranda Leise or alas A. I'm sorry. You also have
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: a theend of defending the r OH Women's World Championship
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: against Persephone and that should be a really good match.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is a this is a car that
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: is really worth watching. There's some other matches on here too.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Shane Taylor Promotions against sky Flight for the Trio's Championship
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: or the six Man as they call it in Ring
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: of Honor. So yeah, I mean, if you do get
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: a chance, please do watch the Ring of Honor. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: guess you would call it a pay per view final Battle,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and you can also if you do watch the Final
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Battle pay per view, you can join our live chat
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: on the Everything Pro Wrestling Hub Discord. We diuys. All
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of you are on our discord correct, absolutely.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, it's my primary use of the community to
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: me too.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, you know, Discord was kind of one
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: of those things where you either love it or you
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: hate it, and I guess it's the same thing can
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: be said for things like X. There's people say you
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: couldn't pay me to get on X, and there's people
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that won't go on Reddit. There's some people that like
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: me that won't go on Facebook because people have had
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: different experiences with different things. Look, you go to where
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: you have fun. If you've never tried our subret not
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: our subreddit, our discord, do Everything Pro Wrestling Hub, Discord
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: at Discorder, dot gg forward slash ep W hub. That's Discord,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: dot gg ep W hub, there's a forward slash between
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the GG and the EPW hub. But anyway, I could
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: never be an announcer. Yeah, I mean, our discord is
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: very active and it is everything pro wrestling. We're pro
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: wrestling fans, We're not just ae W fans. We've got
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: channels for w W, E, n XT, Rig of Honor, TNA.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Congratulations by the way to TNA for getting their TV
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: deal finally done. H They're gonna be on what is
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: it a MC starting January fifth for Thursday night Impact,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: which is great. Up from eight to ten to nine
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: to eleven. Yes, that did yea the times to change? Uh, guys,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: what what part of the discord? Let's let's what makes
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: it good for you guys, because unlike the rest of
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you guys, Discord is not my primary So my primary
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: thing is Reddit mostly, but you guys are mostly on Discord.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Why is that what makes it special?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I just like it was.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Actually my intro to the community. I found it completely
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: by chance. I was looking for a wrestling discord to join,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: happen to find this one, and now I'm on this
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: podcast every week. Oh it's fun. You meet great people.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: There's also plenty to talk about. If you don't feel
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: like talking about wrestling, there's some God forbid, there's a
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: few channels for other things you could talk about, Like
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: there's a video game channel, TV movies channel. Well, you
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: can show off your artwork if you artistically inclined.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Cool stuff.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Barry actually has asked us, and I'm gonna
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: go ahead and make it, and we're gonna make a
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Golden Lovers, Uh Discord channel. Dreams are coming true finally,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: I have an I'm wearing my Coda Abushi the Golden
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: Star T shirt.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I want to see.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I haven't any shirt.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I want to see an eight person tag with the
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Golden Love bombs.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: Fantastic, fantastic.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You know, we were just I was just talking about
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Final Battle ring a water file battle. Somebody is breathing
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: really hard. That's such a turn on. I guess the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Golden Lovers got you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god. I was like, whoa, we
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: have lipped off. Anyway, Anyway, as I was just talking
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: about Final Battle and also n XT on Saturday has
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: their Deadline pay per view. Again, this discord is for
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: everything pro wrestling. It's not an aw fanhob thing. It's
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: not an aaw thing, and so we have channels already
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: set up with poles for final battle. We have polls
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: for deadline. The polls will close one hour before to
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: show this weekend. Of course, final battles on Friday. Deadline
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: is on Saturday after the polls close, and those channels
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: then become a live chat. We've already I've already got
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a Russell Kingdom channel already built. It's muted right now
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: so you can't see it. But that is the reason
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: why it's muted is because you can't build. The Discord
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: has a two week limitation to their polls, so I can't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna build the polls two weeks before. Russell Kingdom
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: twenty also be doing polls and channels for Stardom's what
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: is it the Grand Queendom coming up in January and
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: tjpw's in early January. I can't remember. I always get
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I think it's a Grand Princess show.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I always get that mixed up. But anyway, we have
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: polls that become live chats. We'll be doing the same
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: thing for any TNA pay per view, any big pay
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: per view we will be or any big show. We
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: will be doing that, so it's a lot of fun.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: It's really cool also seeing the results of the polls
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: we did the polls or the last aw pay per
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: view aw full gear and boy did we get them wrong.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Wow, Wow, we got we got annihilated.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: We did. I think there was nine matches. I think
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: we went three.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that next year.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: And if you know, I kind of have a theory
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: of the people who who like discord a little bit.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: It might just be me, but I've talked to a
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: couple of buddies of mine who like it too. I'm
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: an older gent late forties. But if you at work
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: have ever used like Slack or Microsoft Teams, it just
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: feels like using one of those apps. The interface is
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: very similar, chat style is very similar. And so for
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: a lot of folks who don't like care for message boards.
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: I've never been a big message board person. And I've
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: been on the internet since like nineteen ninety four, like
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: the you know, the og game Facts all of you
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: guys see that site. Now, I was there when it
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: was like original. I just just hated message boards, right,
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: I've just never been a message board guy. Right, So
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: Discord just clicks for me. I love the chat And
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: one thing I just want to to point you know,
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: Kelson was plugging the live chats for the rooms. For
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: most of us, we have to watch by ourselves. If
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: we're lucky, we have a spouse you know that watches.
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: Maybe you've got a friend that comes over, but like,
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: I never have anybody to watch with. The chats are
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: like hanging out with your friends on the couch. Like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: we have a really really nice group of people, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: it's a lot of fun, a lot of running gags
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: between the chats, people saying hey, I've been seeing next
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: pay per view, Like it's a really really fun You
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: feel like you're hanging out on a couch. So you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: if you try the message board thing and it's not
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: really you, but Discord is not even really you, you
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: know either, But you do like chat rooms, Like it's
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: a really really good audience. We're a lot of fun
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: to hang out with and sometimes it's just fun to
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: read the things people come up with because we got
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: some funny folks too.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. And the other thing about the Discord
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: server is that if you're looking for news on AWTNA
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: start them t j p W, W, W E, n
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: x T, the indies. My god. We have people that
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: just their news hounds. They you know, Matt Lopez, you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: know who you are. He if something happens in the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: world of professional wrestling, Matt is going to do it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: The other thing that that we have on this we
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: we recently merged with Everything Pro Wrestling's discord server. It's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a smaller server, but they're really good people over there
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and everything Pro Wrestling EPW show is a They do podcasts,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: follow them on Twitter, come onto our discord, meet them,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: they promote out their podcast. They do podcasts for AW,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: they do podcasts for WWE, they do I believe the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: WWE one they do on Mondays and the AW one
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they do on Wednesdays, and they do a bunch of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: other stuff in between. They're very active, a wealth of
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: information and laughter, and that's the important thing to me
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: is the laughter. You don't you know on the discord,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: we don't take it too seriously. Wrestling is supposed to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: be fun. It's supposed to be fun, and you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: there's no tribalism. There are people to post on the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: AW channels, that post on the Stardum channels, and post
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: on the WWE and NXD channels. There's very few people
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that don't post on all the other channels, which is
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: really cool. And I think you know, I'm a moderator
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: there as are a couple of other people on this panel,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I believe, but we never have to really delete anybody
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: or remove post for tribalism or stuff like that. At best,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: we get, you know, the occasional spammer and of course
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the Yoshi Tatsu guy.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Forget about lord y.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Oh Lord, you're right.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I apologize. I forgot for a second.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: I had forgotten about that dude until you you said
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: his post like.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: That guy World Famous Fan version nine, ten, eleven, twelve thirteen.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I can't remember which one he was because he's got
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: so many of them because he's been bad everywhere. He's
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: an idiot, but he's kind of a lovable idiot, even
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: though he said you know, f you to me many
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: times and has published it many times because I banned
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: him for being just we is weird when.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: He's in he's a lovable idiot real life, he's just
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: a freaking jackass.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: There you go. Well, I can tell you right now,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: if you're a Reddit fan, don't look for world famous
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: man on any of your favorite subreddits because he's been banned.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Spar band, professional wrestling band, aw band of Band, Greatest
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Radius Wrestling Band, Women's for a wrestling band. He's just.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Would you say that he's good.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: That he's good, No, that he's I don't understand what
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you're saying. Hell yeah. So anyway, like I said, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to take some time because we've never really done
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it before, to plug the discord. It is a big
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: part of our community. It is a lot of fun.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I personally, I think it's the least serious in a way,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: but it has the most news by far, and it's
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: just got it's very active. It really is an active discord.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I mean there's unless it's two o'clock in the morning,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: it's just being and Chris posting at that point.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: But no, we got the Brits on, the Brits and
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: the Irish lads.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, we do have the Yeah, we are worldwide.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: Some weird right now.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, anyway, like I said, it's a great server
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and there is no no tribalism. Surprisingly no tribalism because
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: we do have channels for everything and they're all active
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: there's no channel that's like dead. So if tribalism isn't
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: your thing, that you probably don't want to listen to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: this next segment that we're gonna do because we're gonna
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: compare Blooded Guts and Survivor Series war games.
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I guess the question to ask here is how many
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: of you guys watch both Blooded Guts and Survivor Series
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: war games. I did.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: I watched budd and Guts, but I didn't see I've
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: saw snippets of the Survivor series on YouTube.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what I did too. You know, so,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is your overall opinion when you like
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: comparing the two comparison?
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Don't think to compare the two?
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can't.
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think they're the same match.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Are completely different?
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, wait a minute there, wait a minute. There,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: They are not completely different matches. They have the same
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: exact format, the same format developed by the same person,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Dusty Rhodes. They are the same match. They're just approached
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: in a different ways.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: The only difference between Blood and Guts and war games
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: was war games that had the little shark cages, and
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: they didn't even have those this year.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: Well that yeah, you know, Survivor series has been around
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: for a long time.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: But honestly, when you do a match that has the.
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: Women's match and the men's match had the same elements,
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: exactly the same element, it's just like, what are you doing?
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: They had?
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Who was it? The men's side they had, so don't try,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: don't You're not gonna get it.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Run Cody. Cody got held out of the men's match.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: In the as me, that's that's that's our buddy.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: What's the team from the Bloodline the Woozy Brothers.
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: When you had Tody get held out and had to
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: climb over the top and over the over the cage
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: to get in the match, and you did the same
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: thing with Becky.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: And aj Lee.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, it's the same exact thing. I don't
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know a problem. I don't really have a
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: problem with that per se, because there's always so many
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: things you can do in a cage, you know, or well, I.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: Don't know about that because I don't know because most
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: of the time, aw does they do every different time
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: they do one of these, it's completely different than the
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: time before. They're not repeating things over and over again.
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, there's gonna be spots that are gonna
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: be the same.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: But when you do that to it, just it just
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: looks so stupid because.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: When you do it twice in the same.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the fruit roll up all over again.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of stupid, a stupid repetition. You would nobody
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: at Blood and Guts seem to get the urge to
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: do their entrance over again in the middle of the match.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well look, well look, hey, I don't I don't
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: want I don't want to rag on WWE I'm coming
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: with with Chris. They are different products, and you know
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: that's what it is from a storyline perspective. Real world
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: talk here. Has Survivor Series done the war games the
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: last few years or was that just this year? Because
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: I haven't watched the FED on a regular basis and.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: It's been the I think it's been the last couple
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: of years.
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: And then they they've done they've done a war game.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for the last three or four and
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: then or maybe it's been like two years there in
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: a few years.
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: So it's relatively common. Even if it's not a pure
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: war games, there are you know, Survivors Series matches are
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: pretty similar. Do you think this was some some low
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: key counter booking.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that, because, look, that's a really good question, Barry,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: because look that's why I wanted there. The Blooded Guts
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: for aw usually takes place earlier in the year, right,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and it took place two weeks more? Was it two
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: weeks before Survivor series? And Brian Albarez? I think it
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: was Brian Albert Albarez. What did a little one of
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: his things that he was like after blood and guts,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: he was like that he was just gushing over blood gouts.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody was gushing over bloody gout gouts, including the wrestlers
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that were in it. Wah wah, Golden lovers. Anyway, but
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, that's the Golden Lovers. And this was
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like if I, you know, if I was like doing
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: on the golf course and seat of going shoot her,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I go Golden Lovers and throw everybody. But I don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: want to tell you the hand movement. I'd be baking
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: when I did that. But anyway, but anyway, Brian Alvarez said,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: you know, not only were they very I mean Dolph
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Ziggler was even like over the moon about blood and guns,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and both Dlph Ziggler and Brian Alvarez said the same thing.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: There is no way you're going to see anything like
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that at wargames, and you did it. The best thing
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: you can do when you is just look a still
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: picture of the the winners being having their hands raised
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: in the ring. That's all you have to do. And
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: to tell the picture speaks a thousand words and a
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: w It looks literally like in the background, especially in
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the women's match, literally looked like a war. It just happened.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: There was well the Willow Nightgale was still laid out
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: in the background, there was debris everywhere, and there was
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: you know everyone. Both rings were just bloody as hell.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: And in the and in the WWE picture, the ring
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: was kind of pristine. It looked like a child that
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: maybe thrown some of their toys around.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: So I listen. I I think it is important to
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: remind I think it's important to remind ourselves these are
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: two different products. And AW caters to a more adult crowd.
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: They're not scared to push those edges a little bit.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: WWE is not.
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's fair to expect that level of
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: blood and carnage I just don't. I don't think. I
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: don't think it is. Though on the flip side, I disagree.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I disagree with you by I.
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: Just I don't think it's I don't think it's fair
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: to expect the same they're they're not advertising the same
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: rating going in and like one show is literally advertised
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: blood and Gods.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: We know it's going to be extreme, you know. Yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: look what you said. I get what you're trying to say,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: but I think you just worded it wrong when you
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: said that WWE is more Uh did you say WWE
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: is more catered to an adult or no? Aw AW.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with you on that. Just theres there
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: have been statistics that were done last year. WWE fans
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: are on average ten years older than AW fans. AW
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: fans are already younger fans, a WW fans are the
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: older fans. However, I think if you would have said
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that WWE has catered more toward families, maybe I can
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: agree with that. Other than you know, the price to
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: take the prices pricing families out unless they mortgage their
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: house to go to the show.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: It's irrelevant the demos are attracting. I'm just the presentation
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: of AW is more adult and willing to push an
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: adult stream. I'm not saying they're winning the ratings of
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: the demographics in that all right, And I think you're
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: the families for WWE is one of the reasons they
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: don't have that group. Their presentation is not concerned with
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: the PG rating, and I think that's important to differentiate
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: the product.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, aw's product is catered more towards your eighteen to
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: thirty five to where wwee taters two, you know, the
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: eight to seventeen and then you know thirty six to
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: forty four fifty four kind of gap. They cater more
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: towards parents and kids and younger teenagers, where AW taters
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: more to older teenagers and legal adult brings.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: That brings up something that Barry said earlier. When Barry
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: we were talking about the discord, you were saying that
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: you watch by yourself. You know, you know, I think
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: that what Chris is saying is that AW fans tend
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: to watch by themselves.
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I think more families and groups watched WW together.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that, just because of good
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: product it self tends to t too. More singles and
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: you know couple, you know some couples who either don't
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: have kids yet or their kids are already you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: are older.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: Here's here's a fun set. AW had better women's ratings
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: to WWE for a significant period of time with their
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: original run. Yeah, and it wasn't even close. Like they
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: they had a much stronger female rating. I don't know
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: why they lost it. I don't know if it's when
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: they started to get more bloody and stuff, but for
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: a very long time, a significant period.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: If I didn't like violence, there wouldn't be the true
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: crime podcast. There are very.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: True either way. There was something.
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: There was something that attracted a high female demographic in
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: the original presentation of the show that they've since lost.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: I don't know what it is, but I think that's
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: an interesting statistic.
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: On a w They lost the women women.
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: They used to have a much higher female demographic than
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: they currently do, and it was, if I remember correctly,
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: typically stronger than the demographic that WWE would pull ratings
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: wise proportion or something like that, and they lost that
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: advantage entirely.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Women like fifty plus old men right sudden, that's yes,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: that's not it I have to do with any of this.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Look, I think different ratings demograph to fifty year old men.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: We weren't even talking about the thing that the thing
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: separate we're talking about go ahead.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: I think the separacs for me is Survivor series pay
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: per view, Blood and Guts, national television.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think if you have said it felt
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: like a pay per view too.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: Like the fact that a W doesn't have that burden
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: of PG thirteen that a that W has makes a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: big difference. You know, we don't watch We've been watching
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: interesting forever Kelson. And when we watched it before, it
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: wasn't PG thirteen. You didn't have to have the PG
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: thirteen rating on stuff, and you could you could pretty much.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: You know, they had good matches back in the day.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: W But TV was lot lot tamer then. Yeah, that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: it is now even you know, the TV that I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: watched was a lot tamered and w W e at
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it's at its tames and a W at its tamis.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: But if you went to a live show, holy crap.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: But it's it seems to me that you know, when
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: you when you you expid for me, when I see,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: like you said, war games look like our believing guts
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: looked like the War and Survivors series look like just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: a regular cage match, And because the one was on national,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: you would have thought it would have been the other
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: way around because of the difference in where they're broadcast,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: but it wasn't. And I think, I honestly think WW
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: is playing everything.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: To they're they're not. But but but here's the thing, though,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Sudden they are playing it safe. But why should they
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: not play it safe? It's it's working. Yep.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a different product that they don't it's a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: different product.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: And if you then people say, well, why doesn't a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: W do the same thing that w W E is
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: is doing? And in that case, why even have a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: If you're just gonna do or emulate everything WWE is doing,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: WAW has to be different. I'm not saying it's good
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: or bad. Alls I'm saying, is Blood of Guts had
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: the War War Games, had the games? That was it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: That's the point.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: And AW does not need to be bigger than WWE either,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: Like there doesn't need to be a victory and a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: loser here, just be your companies. It's fine if AW
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: never gets past five thousand a week and ten thousand
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: for pay per views and WWE stays at like ten
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: thousand arenas for TV and fifteen or fifty thousand for
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: arenas or whatever for pay p reviews. Like, that's okay.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: The point is we want healthy promotions. That's why it's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: great TNA got a TV deal. You want more healthy
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: places for performers to work because somebody who fails on
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: one promotion can completely reinvent themselves in another, and it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: better for all of us. So, like, stop complaining. Just
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: just enjoy whatever product everybody's putting out, and if it's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: not for you, just you know, watch somebody else, watch.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: What you like, and let everyone else do this. Look,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Doctor Pepper ain't never gonna beat Coked, but it's still
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: damn good. They know they ain't gonna. You know, I
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: think I know why they putting out their products, you know, like.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: What was that.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: I think I know why they lost the women demographic.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: I was thinking about it, and I love a w
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: don't get me wrong, but for me, it has always
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: been the storytelling, not just the wrestling. And somebody mentioned
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: how women love true crime podcasts and true crime shows.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 8: I'm one of those people that loves those because of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: the story, the background and when a w first started,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: and it got me hooked with a lot of their storylines.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: And they've changed that a lot and gone more into
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: just a lot of the wrestling. And don't get me wrong,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: the wrestling's good, but I like that background and I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: think that's what they changed a lot of They moved
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: away from that, and I think perhaps.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: What'd you say, in the last year, they've gotten back
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: closer to how they used to do it earlier on
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: or they stayed the same.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: Okay, No, they're they're getting they're getting there. Yeah, they're
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: getting back to how they were. But but for me,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: they changed that storytelling element and and it made something
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 8: different for me. I'm not as crazy about it as
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: I used to be.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: That's a good point. Thanks for sharing that. That's good.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, since we have two women on the panel. Uh,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not counting you something. I'm sorry, Jess. Just isn't
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: that okay, Barry?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: I don't.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. I don't want to go
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: there because I could. I could write a book. I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: could write a book, you know, Barry. You didn't say
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: when the demographic changed, but I didn't want to bring
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: it out two years ago or Okay, that that's fair enough.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Net and Jess as women. Do you think that a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: W started losing the women's demographic because Eddie Kingston was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: injured and they didn't didn't have no reason to tune
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: in And Frank, I don't want to get into it.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get into you know, like thirst
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But you know, like, but I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: mean you guys.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: I mean Kenny was hurt. You know, a Boushie was questionable.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: You know, there's there's a lot of reasons. I think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: a lot of it was Eddie was missing and now
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: that he's bad, lots of.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Eyes, we're getting the women's demographic.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: You're getting it back.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: Also they stopped featuring Johnny Hungy, and that's from the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: demographic because the Hangman's first title run when Punk picked
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: it up. Not seeing those are connected either. But it's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: interesting that they stopped featuring the Dark Order so much
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: and the women's them out just walked so that.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: You could also be Lucasaurus. You know, women have a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: thing for big dinosaurs. There there was a there was
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: a there's a there's a member on uh uh a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: W fan hub who was I believe it I don't
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: remember where he was. I think it was at A
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: W's Full Gear. I think he took pictures and he
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: got pictures with a lot of A W. Russells and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: he posted them. He posted them on the a W
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: fan hub subreddit and people are like, who's that dude.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: He was like, that's Lucasaurs because he did have his
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: mask on and he was punched over and he was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: hunched over, so he didn't look real tall. I mean,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: he was really hunched over. He was like standing behind
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the railing and he was just over. So he looked
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: like this little short he with a eight he's yeah,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: he's yeah. So but anyway, and you know what he has,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: like this beard is gray, which you know is weird
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: when he because he doesn't have a green beard. Spoiler alert,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, dare you reveal it?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, but like I have to do a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: double until I recognize them from some of the pictures
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: that he took previously without his mask, you know. Uh,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: but he does look a little bit different than before.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: So but anyway, Uh, let's go on to our pot pourri.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Does anybody have any potpoirish things to say?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: I have one I touched on earlier where I think
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: that Tony Storm is actually going to be the person
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: that gets John Moxley. I think it's her. I think
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: she's gonna start the let's beat up on John Moxley
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: movement and almost haunt him in wherever he goes and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: whatever he does, if he stays with the Death Writers
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: or not.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: And I say that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: Because there have been a few interactions between them, and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: the last time she came in the ring and it
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: seemed almost like she was antagonizing him. She kept calling him,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: you know, okay, John, Okay, Johnny, and just making subtle
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: little digs at him. And I think that if ae
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: w ever dares to pull the trigger on intergender matches,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: it would be Tony Storm and John Moxley. So that's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: my take on Give it to Me.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, love it, love everything about it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't know you no, no.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Never that happened.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: You never know, never say never.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: There are ways to book the match, so it would
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: work not But I don't know if I would want
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: to see the match that they would need the book
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: for them, because I think it would be No, I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: don't mean that it would be a bad match. I
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: think it would be it would be a very difficult
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: match to watch, and I know they would be willing
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: to do it, and I have problems with that.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: Okay, I can see that.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it'd be pretty dramatic and pushing some boundaries.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know people will be comfortable with.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of people have trouble with intergender matches,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: but they're if you like them, they're good. So and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: it's not always the guys who come out on top.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: Didn't would Willa did? Didn't she get a pin on Yuda?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 7: Then they did a mixed tag? Didn't think? So, Yeah,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: she's did a mixed tag with somebody against we Were
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: and another death Rider and I maybe it was even
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: a sixth person. I can't remember, and I think, yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: I think she gave him the bait with the power
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: bomb and got the pin on him. I think.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: My sound quality has really I've lost my sound quality.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: So I'm going to try to fix that. If you
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: guys don't hear me for a second, Okay.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, does anybody else have any uh? Yeah?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: I scored uh, I scored tickets to the the Orlando
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: Dynamite January whatever. Good tickets still available gang if you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: want to jump in. So anybody in the Central Florida
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: area that hasn't been to auditioned Financial. It's a It's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: a fun little venue, easy to get into, plenty of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: parking on the UCF campus. If you've never been to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: University of Central Florida's campus, it's self contained, really easy
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: to get an out of. You know, it's a college campus,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: but it's it's fun. But the shows are always great.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 7: It's really into an atmosphere. So I'll be right on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: the camera the whole time. Same seats I get for
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: pay per views and stuff. Because I got basketball season tickets.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: I might score floor tickets. If I do, I'll post
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: plenty of picks like I did when I went to
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: the Lakeman Show. But really looking forward to it. I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: am considering possibly going out to Los Angeles for the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: pay per view after I've loo to see if that
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: lines up. Yeah, So since they announced the paper you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: it's going to be in LA I have some friends
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: out there that owe me a favor, so I might
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: I might look into maybe traveling out there for that,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: So it could be a fun run for me in January.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Very nice. I don't mind Aws to be in Phoenix
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: for aw Dynamite and Collision. My daughter is living in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: the area and I was talking to her yesterday. It
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: was her birthday, so happy birthday, my baby girl, the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: love of my life. And heard my son in law
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: are absolutely thinking of going to the show. Of course,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: it is going to be a four hour show, so
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to be contingent on them getting at least
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: a half day off the day of the show, in
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the day after the show, so that they don't, you know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: not zombifide as they're walking through the as they're you know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: walking through work, I guess is the best way to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: put it, anyway, So I hope she gets to go.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Anybody else with the potpourri, well, I have an interesting one.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: At least I thought it was interesting. There's a person
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: on Instagram who goes under to handle espressoits w R
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: E S p R E S S O I and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: according to the name, which I'm not going to say,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: it seems to be a somewhat of the female persuasion
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: who did some extraordinary work. She made a list of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: the top fifteen Women's World Wrestlers of twenty twenty five
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: based on one hundred thousand plus match ratings and votes
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: made on the Cage Match website. Really interesting list. I'm
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: going to give you just I'm not going to read
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the list at the top hall top fifteen, but I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: will give some highlights. Number fifteen was me Yamashada. We've
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: seen her on AW numerous times. Number fourteen was Rhea Ripley.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Number thirteen was Surey. Of course we've seen on AAW.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Number twelve Starlight Kid. Tony Khan has said is probably
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: the one that he would want in AW if she
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: was available to come. Tony Storm was number ten, which
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: which kind of which kind of surprising? Number nine Tam
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: Tam knocking out from Stardom. Number seven and I was
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: thrilled to see this was me you what what to me?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: You?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Watsonabi. I don't know why he messed up that name.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: It's not that hard to say. Was number seven from
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: t J p W. If you have not seen me,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: you wreussell. She is amazing. Mercedes Monet was number six.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Az M was number five from Stardom. Mayo uh Mayo
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Mayu Watani from well this year she was at Stardom
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: and Bear Goold was number four. Number three from w
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: W E EO skuy number two, which I was really
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: surprised at. Saya Kamatani thought she was a shoeing from
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: number one, number one, Suri. I loved this list. And
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: if you notice this list, there are international wrestlers in
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: abundant in this list. Majority of this list well a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: couple from WWE, only a couple from AW and frankly speaking,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: that's the way, in my opinion should be that way,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: because I guess I'm just a Joshi fan.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: I think people really understand the difference in the styles too.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: When you watch Joshi wrestling and it's it's to me,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: it's like comparing American style to Lucha libre. It is
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: a different style, it's not as foreign looking.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 7: The speed is just incredible and the intensity is just incredible.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: And I really think American American folks who haven't watched
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 7: really don't know the difference. It's not just like watter
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: and women wrestle.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Here. The thing that that I that stands out to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: me with I want. I don't really get to watch
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Tokyo Joshi Pro or Marigald that much, but I am
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: a huge stardom fan and one of the things that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: stands out to me at stardom and Japanese. I mean,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: if you watch Japanese wrestling as a whole, generally speaking,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Japanese wrestling crowds are very silent. I mean, would you
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: agree with that the people that watch Japanese wrestling.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's not like a party time atmosphere at
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 7: an American show at all.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is something last night so world Tagarcher mentioned.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: They will quiet down and respectfully watch the wrestling. They
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: will just let the wrestlers do their thing and chant
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: when it's appropriate. Where American crown the entire exactly. They're
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: going to change somebody here. They're gonna say it like
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: it's a very different style, but it's not.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Neither one is right or wrong.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: No, no, this performance American wrestling is rocky horror picture
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: show live right, and Japanese wrestling is like going to
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: a play that you've seen a million times. The people
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 7: at the play aren't going to cheer and say that
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: the lines out loud. It's not expected. In the United States.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: It's expected that you say the cats phrases, you cheer
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: and like there's just a it's just a different it's
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 7: just a different audience in a different atmosphere out well, I.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Would use a different I would use the Rocky Horror
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Picture Show. A lot of people probably have never seen
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: it because it pre dates them so much. But I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: will give you another uh analogy. I like where you
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: said that going to the Japanese crowds are like they're
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: going to a play. American crowds are like they're going
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: to a baby Metal concert. They participate, you know, so
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: there's always something going on in the crowd. The crowd
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: is a big part of a baby Metal experience. But
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: one of the things I get, I think the point
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: that I may this point before, is that because the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Japanese wrestling crowds are so quiet when you're in the ring,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: it's different as a wrestler. First and foremost, everybody could
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: hear every word you say in the ring, so you
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: can't do like callouts. You've really got to get that
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: stuff done in the back for the most part. The
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: other thing is and most importantly is that stardom wrestlers
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: are known for their striking. They throw slaps and forearms
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. If you throw a slap or you throw
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: a forearm and you don't hear a sound, then you're
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: going to lose the crowd. Then that's where it stands out,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: because when a stardom wrestler throws a forearm and hits
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: the other, hits her opponent like in the collarbone, you
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: can hear the thud and you can see the welt
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: starting to come up on the on the you know,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: the upper chest of the uh of the wrestler. That
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's the big point is that yeah, it's
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: it's wrestling. But I think that in Japan, and since
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: we're this list was the women's list, but I think overall,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: even in Japan, they've got the work a little bit
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: harder to make it more believable. I really do believe that.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: It's definitely a harder hitting style, you know, like and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: it's one of those you know, the whole fighting spirit,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: like yeah, you better be able to take a freaking hit,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: You better be able to lay one in two. You
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: can't just lay back into it's and I think it's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: part of that is treated closer to a sport over
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: there than it is over here, so there's respect for
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: that too. It's like, okay, you know we're not going
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: they're not going one hundred percent. But where you know America,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: you're gonna go like sixty, They're going eight to five.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't argue with that. Well, look, does
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: anybody else have a pot pourri?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna plug my deals. If you ever need
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: to know what time a new japan show is on
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: sex the Discord in the the Piro Russell channels, and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: if the time I haven't or if the times I
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  Speaker 3: have listed don't include yours, I will happily find the
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  Speaker 3: time if you need.
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  Speaker 11: Well.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is is like, especially if you're on
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  Speaker 2: if you're on Reddit and you post like this show
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  Speaker 2: starts at six pm Japanese standard time, there is a
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  Speaker 2: Reddit bot that will put in the comments the time
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  Speaker 2: that the show is on at your time. So if
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: you're on Reddit, you're ever posting, like, for example, a
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: any kind of show, whether it's in the United States, Mexico, Japan, Australia, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: put the time listed on the show with you know,
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  Speaker 2: JSD or et whatever, you know whatever time zone, and
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  Speaker 2: Reddit will post and let people know whoever is reading
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  Speaker 2: it what time zone it is in their time zone.
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  Speaker 2: That's right now.
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  Speaker 3: I have just on my when I put it on
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  Speaker 3: X I have Japan standard, all North American time zones, UK,
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  Speaker 3: Central Europe, three for Australia and one for New Ze.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's one thing that I do like that Reddit
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  Speaker 2: does is that they do a post and it is
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  Speaker 2: customized so that when you read it and say you're
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: in California, it'll give you the California time. If I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: read it and I'm on the East Coast, it'll give
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: you the Eastern time. So it is very helpful. So
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  Speaker 2: if you're posting on Reddit with the time, just make
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  Speaker 2: sure you put the time zone that the that it's
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  Speaker 2: originating at, and and read it. We'll do the work
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  Speaker 2: for you. It's just that simple. So that's really good.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: All right, anybody else with the pot pourri? All right? Then,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: well that is the show. You know, thanks guys for
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: coming out. This was a really fun show. Not a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: whole lot of news this week, but we still made
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: it fun. Yeah, yes, you know, and we got to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: say Golden Lovers so many times this, you know, it's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: just fun to watch. That's just fun to say. Anyway.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: For the podcast, We're at the Golden Love, We're at
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: the Golden Lover era. The podcast True.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: Thick trying to bring that women's uh getting that women's
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  Speaker 7: demographic back.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 11: On one hairy chest, and it's oh god, oh, what
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 11: has happened to us?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: All right? Well, well, well we may or may not
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: be back tomorrow night after Dynamite with a Dynamite review show.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: We haven't done one in a couple of weeks now because, uh,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: the schedule for Dynamite has been so wacky, and of
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: course with the holiday last week especially, you know, nobody
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: wanted to do a show on Thanksgiving Eve. Gosh, it's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: been a week since Thanksgiving already.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so maybe we will see you tomorrow night for
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: all we talk right after Dynamite, so you know, just
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: check on x and see if we're there or not.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I guess the best way to put it if we'll
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: see you next week eight forty five Eastern time on
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: X on Twitch and of course the next day meaning Wednesday,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Spotify and Apple podcast and many other podcast what do
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: you call it podcast hosts? I guess is the best
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: way to play it. Yeah, So this is Kelson and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: for the AEW Fanhope podcast team. Good night to all
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: you Golden lovers out there.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 8: We love you, Kingston.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Good night, out of Kingston,