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Loudon Granger - Multimedia Production Specialist, Sweethearts & Heroes (sweetheartsandheroes.com) · Aired Out

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Speaker 2: It is a pleasure to have you with me, and
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here with sweethearts and heroes.
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Speaker 2: This is a number two for you, right, I think.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think in my third time on
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Speaker 4: number two being a normal I guess I came with
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Speaker 4: Tom one time with Tom. Yes, yes, but thank you
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Speaker 4: very much for having it down.
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Speaker 2: It's not always easy getting word in edgewise when Tom's here.
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Speaker 4: Now, dude, he's very passionate about this work, for sure,
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Speaker 4: as we all are. You know so, and he's the
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Speaker 4: science guy. He knows all the stuff about the you know,
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Speaker 4: he does the reading, does, knows all the studies and
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Speaker 4: stuff behind it. So I learned so much by just
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Speaker 4: listening to him honestly in terms of the work we
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Speaker 4: do and kind of the reasons why and what we're
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Speaker 4: actually seeing, because a lot of times we see the
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Speaker 4: patterns and like, I don't actually understand truly what's going
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Speaker 4: on under the hood until he kind of says, see
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Speaker 4: did you see that? You see that? And then once
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Speaker 4: you once you're kind of turned onto it, you kind
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Speaker 4: of see it everywhere, and then you can kind of
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Speaker 4: make predictions and stuff about and that helps me in
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Speaker 4: my role. Yeah, what Sweets and Heroes?
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Speaker 2: For sure, He's done that with me with me too.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's kind of it. It's just gonna
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Speaker 2: happen no matter what when you're when you're involved with Tom,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna see the results of the impacts
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Speaker 2: that Sweethearts and Heroes is having. How long have you
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Speaker 2: been with Sweethearts and Heroes? Like, what, what's what's your story?
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Speaker 2: How did you get involved?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Most definitely I've been. I've been involved for like
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Speaker 4: a few years now, maybe probably. I think I started
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Speaker 4: messing around in some smaller video projects with them for them,
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Speaker 4: more like kind of video assets. If you will not
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Speaker 4: necessarily boots on the ground stuff. Probably about four years ago,
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Speaker 4: I would say, But over the past two years, I
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Speaker 4: would say, I've been kind of much more in studio
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Speaker 4: working on courses and content, and then this past year
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Speaker 4: most of my time has been spent at schools and stuff,
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Speaker 4: kind of boots on the ground filming documenting and then
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Speaker 4: kind of coming back and cutting them up, putting it
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Speaker 4: to like different edits or mini documentaries and stuff.
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Speaker 1: How much? How much?
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Speaker 2: What's the relationship between how much time you're spending behind
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Speaker 2: the camera versus how much time you're spending with the
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Speaker 2: kids in these these schools that you've you've been to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to do both.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such an interesting question because you know, like
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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm the only person on the team
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Speaker 4: who can kind of hide behind a cam as well.
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Speaker 4: And I don't mean hide as in like shy, I
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Speaker 4: don't want to talk to the kids, but I can
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Speaker 4: be a fly on the wall with my camera and
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Speaker 4: still catch some cool intimate things. And I can also
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Speaker 4: prompt them from behind the camera and interact with them
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Speaker 4: and kind of joke with them and jest with them
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Speaker 4: from behind the camera. So it's kind of like a
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Speaker 4: weird thing. I have a foot in each in each realm.
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Speaker 4: I'm never really in front of the students when we're
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Speaker 4: in schools, And what I mean by that is, I'm
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Speaker 4: not like leading a class yet or anything like that.
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Speaker 4: I'm usually involved with them in the rooms, documenting and
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Speaker 4: interacting with and interviewing. I interview a lot of students
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Speaker 4: as well. So it's just this kind of like interesting, uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's it almost feels like if you had
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Speaker 4: invisibility and you were kind of like in rooms and
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Speaker 4: stuff and moving around and they're cool with cameras being around.
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Speaker 4: You get the kids who look straight in the camera,
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Speaker 4: but then they snap out of it and they do
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Speaker 4: some other stuff. You know. It's more and you know
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Speaker 4: what's crazy is a lot of them always ask it's
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Speaker 4: clearly a video camera. It's a clear video camera, but
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Speaker 4: they say, take my picture, take my picture, take my picture.
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Speaker 4: It's just an interesting thing I've noticed.
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Speaker 1: Wow, you know, And.
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Speaker 2: These kids are they're just going about their lives and
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Speaker 2: just trying to be as normal and as natural as possible.
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Speaker 2: And if you are there with a camera, you've got
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Speaker 2: to be approachable, You've got to be friendly with them.
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Speaker 2: You've got to have some personality, some fun to bring
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Speaker 2: out what it is that they're doing or saying and
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Speaker 2: capturing that moment.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: Tom said to me, it's we were talking about the
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Speaker 2: just the importance of you. It's one thing to go
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Speaker 2: into these schools and have these relationships and this connectivity
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Speaker 2: with kids and staff, but it's a whole nother thing
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Speaker 2: to be able to capture that well, capture it accurately,
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Speaker 2: and bring it to the eyes in the ears of
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Speaker 2: people that are outside of the school, to promote the
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Speaker 2: message of what Sweethearts and Heroes is doing.
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Speaker 4: Of course, there's so many layers to that that what
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Speaker 4: you've touched upon there, Like like when you started, you
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Speaker 4: were saying, you know, it's important to kind of have
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Speaker 4: like a kind of a personality, even as a cameraman. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. A lot of these students when they
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Speaker 4: look at the camera, I think initially they're looking for
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Speaker 4: a reaction, So I play with them. I'll like make
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Speaker 4: like a crazy face back to them just to see
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Speaker 4: what they do. Yeah, and it's hilarious and a lot
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Speaker 4: of the time I've got the camera rolling in slow motion,
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Speaker 4: so like some of the smiles and laughter they get
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Speaker 4: from me being silly. It's kind of like the school
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Speaker 4: photographer with the clown knows kind of like you know
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Speaker 4: what I mean. It's there's a sense of personality. There's
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Speaker 4: a relationship that I think I'm building through not saying anything,
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Speaker 4: just facial expressions and kind of like they're looking at me.
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Speaker 4: I didn't instigate it. I'm just playing back with them
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Speaker 4: as interesting. But then as they get older, they're less
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Speaker 4: likely to look directly into the camera socially. And what
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Speaker 4: you're saying about documenting and capturing it, yeah, I think
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Speaker 4: it's important because one to get the message out there, right,
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Speaker 4: that's like the obvious thing for sweethearts and heroes, that's
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Speaker 4: we want to do. But also I think for these students,
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Speaker 4: the fact that they feel like they whatever they're saying
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Speaker 4: is like legit, and they have people who want to
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Speaker 4: hear it and who want to do it, and then
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Speaker 4: who want to go back and take that information, whether
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Speaker 4: it be their interview or something they've worked on, chop
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Speaker 4: it up, put it into an edit, and then we
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Speaker 4: put it on all our platforms YouTube, Facebook and stuff.
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Speaker 4: Being able to have their grandmother share it, have their
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Speaker 4: sister saying check out my little sister, she's doing some
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Speaker 4: good stuff. I think that's a whole other level that
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Speaker 4: it's not necessarily like a sweethearts and hero's goal. But
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Speaker 4: I think what it does to the child who's the
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Speaker 4: subject of this video or the student, is it like
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Speaker 4: makes it just reinform is like hard work and just
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Speaker 4: trying to be yourself and trying to like stand up
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Speaker 4: for something that you feel valuable. It's empowering, I think.
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Speaker 4: And uh, when they can be celebrated on their social
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Speaker 4: medias for that by family members and friends and people
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Speaker 4: of their town, like, we love it. We we have
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Speaker 4: just we watch certain towns really do the work for
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Speaker 4: us by supporting their own and they're proud. They're proud
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Speaker 4: of like what's going on with their schools and stuff.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know, I just think there's so much
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Speaker 4: too having it captured, not just for us, but also
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Speaker 4: for the student themselves.
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Speaker 2: If you you you must have had moments where you're
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Speaker 2: like and maybe serious moments where you're seeing some emotion
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Speaker 2: come out in some of these students where you must
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Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: getting this right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was told capturing someone's honest reaction on camera,
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Speaker 4: something like when when they have an epiphany or have
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Speaker 4: a light bulb moment go off in your head and
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Speaker 4: there's that kind of moments of silence where they're like
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Speaker 4: connecting the dots in their head and they're kind of
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Speaker 4: rewinding their path and how they got there and stuff
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Speaker 4: like that's kind of priceless in my opinion, to catch
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Speaker 4: on camera because there's such a rare human experience. You know,
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Speaker 4: those things are what make up like our insight and
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Speaker 4: our different things. So when you can capture.
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Speaker 2: That, you know a lot of it's being in the
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Speaker 2: right place at the right time in frankly luck.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, most definitely, most definitely. And also I think
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Speaker 4: a lot of the questions that get asked in kind
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Speaker 4: of like getting people to At first when I started
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Speaker 4: doing interviews, I'm not a good interviewer. I'm not saying that,
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Speaker 4: but in the beginning I really wasn't. And I would
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Speaker 4: like ask them like questions that could be answered with
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Speaker 4: it yes or no, and it was and dude, it's
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Speaker 4: like okay, drop. And so there is kind of an
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Speaker 4: art to it. I mean, you know all about that,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And just kind of getting
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Speaker 4: someone to open up and how question is are themed
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Speaker 4: and stuff. But uh, but yeah, no, there's a little
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Speaker 4: bit of luck. I mean you definitely an honest experience
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Speaker 4: of like some of these reactions and moments cannot be engineered.
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Speaker 4: You know, they can kind of be like the scene
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Speaker 4: can kind of be set and you can kind of
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Speaker 4: be prompted. But the horse is not going to drink
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Speaker 4: the water. You know what I'm saying. You have to
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Speaker 4: catch it.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, uh, you talk about catch you have to
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Speaker 2: catch it. A couple of weeks ago, I was on
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Speaker 2: the air making fun of myself. We had quite a
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Speaker 2: quite a laughing, uh moment about this massive fish that
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Speaker 2: I caught while I was out in my kayak and
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Speaker 2: it was I swear, I swear it was.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was huge.
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Speaker 2: I mean, geez, making fun of me saying that you
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Speaker 2: know that it was a whale and and all.
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Speaker 1: This, but it was. It was.
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Speaker 2: It was a mass of fish. It's like way too
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Speaker 2: big for the lake that I caught it in. And
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Speaker 2: I'm working it and working it so excited, so happy,
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Speaker 2: and I get right up to the kayak and snap
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Speaker 2: the line. Oh come on, have you had an experience
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Speaker 2: like that with a camera.
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Speaker 4: I mean there are some there are some things where
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Speaker 4: it's like I'm trying to think of something that might
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Speaker 4: be like.
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Speaker 1: You know, it depends with sweethearts are in the heroes
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Speaker 1: or not.
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Speaker 4: Well, well, I'm just thinking about this because, like you know,
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Speaker 4: from my position, you know, I'm capturing something. I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to build the story in my head. I'm thinking in
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Speaker 4: the future. I'm like, okay, perfect, this will be perfect.
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Speaker 4: Maybe they'll for example, let's just say something they're they're
17:51
Speaker 4: doing an obstacle at a community to day. Okay, so
17:53
Speaker 4: it's a racecourse. Let's say I'm following this kid through
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Speaker 4: and they're doing so good, and you know, here's their
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Speaker 4: big moment, and I'm like, yes, this is gonna be perfect.
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Speaker 4: They're gonna crush it. And then they fail. Right, So
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Speaker 4: like originally my original story it failed like they didn't
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Speaker 4: make it right. Well, that's life, though, So what I
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Speaker 4: did capture, like in your instance, the fish got away,
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Speaker 4: you don't have a fish, but I still got something.
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Speaker 4: I got the failure fish, which almost might be more
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Speaker 4: compelling than had they succeeded. So it's kind of humbling
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Speaker 4: as like I'm not a filmmaker necessarily, but I make videos. Okay.
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Speaker 4: You know, we all and this is probably for life too.
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Speaker 4: We all think we know how it's going to turn
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Speaker 4: out and how we want it to turn out. However,
18:36
Speaker 4: it's not always that way. So there is an element
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Speaker 4: of surrender and kind of going with the flow and seeing, well,
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Speaker 4: you know, this is what I did capture. Sure, dude,
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Speaker 4: some of the This is another thing. When you go
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Speaker 4: and you're in the heat of the moment, right you're adjusting,
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Speaker 4: you're adjusting the exposure. If you're outdoors, you've got and
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Speaker 4: defilter on, which is just you know, just to kind
18:56
Speaker 4: of darken the image without changing your shutters speed and
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Speaker 4: your aperture and your frame rate and all this stuff
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Speaker 4: that plays into it. Okay, and you have to manually
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Speaker 4: focus and you're worried about your focal length. There's so
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Speaker 4: much your ISO so it's not grainy footage. Okay, there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of numbers, a lot of science behind it.
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Speaker 4: You get a great moment, everything lines up, the stars aligned,
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Speaker 4: Boom boom, boom. I can't believe I captured that. You
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Speaker 4: go back in You're like, man, that was out of focus.
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Speaker 4: Probably unusable. I was focused on the trees instead of
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Speaker 4: the person's emotion their face. Ooh, that's a touch, Scott.
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Speaker 4: That's like my equivalent of the fish getting away. I think,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 2: I almost had my GoPro mounted to my kayak that day,
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Speaker 2: which would.
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Speaker 1: Have I would have, you know. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I had a friend say to me, can you
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Speaker 2: imagine which I didn't. I didn't have the GoPro that day,
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Speaker 2: but I had a friend say, can you imagine if
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Speaker 2: the GoPro was on on the front of the kayak
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Speaker 2: shooting you or your face? Yeah, when this monster fish,
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Speaker 2: this whale was this blue whale snapped the line and
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Speaker 2: was gone. And I was like yeah. And then they
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Speaker 2: were like, do you remember what your what your reaction was,
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Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, I do. I mean there's
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Speaker 2: the there's the line just waving in the wind, the
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Speaker 2: broken fish line. And I was like, come on, stunned,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, I wish I had that
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Speaker 2: on on on my gobro so I could show my
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Speaker 2: daughter that that sometimes in life, something's gonna happen that
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Speaker 2: you listen.
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Speaker 1: I had the damn fish.
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Speaker 4: You gotta bring a net. Next time.
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Speaker 1: I had the net.
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Speaker 2: I was fumbling with it with the net, but everything
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Speaker 2: was one hundred percent guarantee.
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Speaker 1: And then it was in a flash, in a half
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Speaker 1: a second, it was gone. It's not guarante, but I
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Speaker 1: would love to show my kid, you know.
20:58
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, you know, speaking of go pros, you you
21:03
Speaker 2: got started like you were you were a young guy.
21:06
Speaker 2: You were you were snapping on go pros. I'm guessing
21:09
Speaker 2: when you were skiing and snowboarding and most of all
21:11
Speaker 2: that stuff.
21:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, my grandma got me a go pro Hero. One
21:15
Speaker 4: first go pro ever thing was a tank. Dude. Thing
21:19
Speaker 4: was a tank. It came with like this uh this
21:22
Speaker 4: plastic case that you could not hear a thing out of.
21:25
Speaker 4: It looked like a mini submarine. Dude, it had screws
21:28
Speaker 4: in it. It was like, you know it really.
21:30
Speaker 2: It looked like I know what you're talking about. Yeah,
21:33
Speaker 2: I've got the thirteen.
21:34
Speaker 4: Yeah. It came a long way, oh yeah, yeah from
21:37
Speaker 4: that first one. Yeah. So basically, yeah, I guess I
21:41
Speaker 4: would mess around with those, and like Sony had this
21:43
Speaker 4: little handicam thing just like a many little cam corder.
21:46
Speaker 4: Was just around with that. And I think my parents
21:49
Speaker 4: even before so I think filmmaking not fl I keep
21:52
Speaker 4: saying filmmaking, you know, but you know.
21:54
Speaker 1: What I'm making though, But you are, though, man, you're
21:57
Speaker 1: you're a creator.
21:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure.
22:01
Speaker 1: Uh.
22:02
Speaker 4: My grandmother, my other grandmother, she used to always have
22:05
Speaker 4: some kind of big rig on her shoulder that she
22:07
Speaker 4: would film with. Apparently filmed a ton of home videos.
22:10
Speaker 4: It's really interesting to see and she did quite well
22:13
Speaker 4: with it. And I'm impressed with the technology of that
22:15
Speaker 4: camera because it looked pretty good. I mean, it's an
22:18
Speaker 4: old footage VHS footage, but it looked pretty good.
22:20
Speaker 1: It was an old camcorder.
22:22
Speaker 4: It was something massive. I don't know what it was.
22:24
Speaker 4: It was huge. But if you buy it as Sears
22:28
Speaker 4: probably actually they ordered it. I have no idea. But
22:31
Speaker 4: we were watching home videos the other day and I
22:33
Speaker 4: asked her, I said, what did you record us on?
22:35
Speaker 4: And who trained you? Because you're actually doing quite well
22:38
Speaker 4: with this. No, but I guess I think it's just
22:42
Speaker 4: I mean, it's cool to check stuff out. And I
22:44
Speaker 4: was into action stuff, you know, I was into skateboarding
22:47
Speaker 4: and snowboarding and fun things. I mean, we're in Vermont,
22:49
Speaker 4: we're driving up today. I'm looking at the mountains. I'm like,
22:53
Speaker 4: this is such a chill place, like completely opposite of
22:56
Speaker 4: the weather we're experiencing now. It's beautiful. It's got some
22:59
Speaker 4: beautiful class out, some beautiful hills, very green, but you
23:02
Speaker 4: know what it looks like in the winter. And we're
23:05
Speaker 4: kind of blessed to have both worlds because I don't know,
23:09
Speaker 4: for I feel like the youth, at least my case
23:11
Speaker 4: in Vermont, like snowboarding skateboarding, not many people get to
23:15
Speaker 4: do that. I'd say, yeah, have both, you know. Yeah,
23:21
Speaker 4: So it's that plus little technology, just playing right and
23:24
Speaker 4: reviewing and kind of making things with your friends or
23:27
Speaker 4: didn't know how to do any graphics or anything, so
23:29
Speaker 4: you'd like like write titles on cardboard and hold it
23:33
Speaker 4: up and like film it sequence and it's just like
23:37
Speaker 4: how I know what I kind of want it to
23:38
Speaker 4: look like reverse engineering? How can I do that with
23:42
Speaker 4: my knowledge? You know what I mean? I think there's
23:44
Speaker 4: some kind of between that and the literal skateboarding and
23:46
Speaker 4: snowboarding themselves. The resiliency of like falling down and getting
23:49
Speaker 4: back up, yes, scraping your knee, Do I pack it
23:53
Speaker 4: up for the day and go tend to my wound?
23:55
Speaker 4: Or I try it again and try to conquer something
23:57
Speaker 4: like there's these battles and then also to create tivity
24:00
Speaker 4: element within those and then of of the actual recording itself,
24:05
Speaker 4: like you know, and did you get my shot? You
24:08
Speaker 4: just finally landed? Did you get it? You know? Trust no,
24:11
Speaker 4: the lens cap was on. It's like, dude, what are
24:15
Speaker 4: you doing? You know?
24:18
Speaker 2: My little girl was was ripping around on her dirt
24:20
Speaker 2: bike the other day and I ran in the house,
24:23
Speaker 2: grabbed the uh the chest harnessed with the with the
24:25
Speaker 2: GoPro and came out and put it. As soon as
24:27
Speaker 2: I had that thing, you know, I'm bringing her in, Yeah,
24:30
Speaker 2: going to neutral clip it on her. And as soon
24:33
Speaker 2: as she knew that camera was on, she was.
24:35
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, oh boy.
24:38
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:39
Speaker 2: She's like, Dad, what if I crash? And I'm like,
24:42
Speaker 2: you got the camera on? That would be awesome. Yeah right, yeah,
24:47
Speaker 2: that would be awesome.
24:48
Speaker 4: Yes, that'd be a change of plans, but it would
24:50
Speaker 4: be equally awesome.
24:51
Speaker 1: Though.
24:52
Speaker 2: So you you've you've you've got a double You went
24:56
Speaker 2: to school, you got double major.
24:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't I know I was gonna do
25:00
Speaker 4: anything that. I was undecided when I went to college.
25:02
Speaker 4: I thought I wanted to do something with music because
25:05
Speaker 4: I liked recording music. I was not a musician, stole
25:08
Speaker 4: them not. I kind of taught myself to play guitar
25:11
Speaker 4: and bass and like a little bit of like messing
25:13
Speaker 4: around with like electronic drums, piano, just so I could
25:16
Speaker 4: practice recording things. I thought it was music at first,
25:20
Speaker 4: but but it was just recording things. Then I kind
25:23
Speaker 4: of got into doing some sound design and kind of
25:27
Speaker 4: putting sound to picture. That was my intro into a video,
25:31
Speaker 4: as in my adulthood was. I took the sound avenue
25:34
Speaker 4: towards it. So I would like record sound effects or
25:36
Speaker 4: collect sound effects. Go in the field with some headphones
25:40
Speaker 4: on some good microphones, go up to a stream, listen
25:43
Speaker 4: to some water. Oh it's so sick, dude, like that.
25:47
Speaker 1: I love stuff like I.
25:49
Speaker 4: Love stuff like that. And then not only and then
25:51
Speaker 4: to the next level. I would take like maybe one
25:54
Speaker 4: stream I like the sound of like how the water
25:57
Speaker 4: hits the rocks over here, but there's like some different
26:01
Speaker 4: splashing over here. Yeah, And I'll take like these layers
26:04
Speaker 4: and I'd put them together and i'd make one single
26:07
Speaker 4: brook or stream that literally doesn't exist, and I'll kind
26:11
Speaker 4: of compile things and then I'll filter out different frequencies
26:14
Speaker 4: of like like you know, like some deeper end rumbles
26:17
Speaker 4: and some stuff. It's just I really enjoyed doing that.
26:20
Speaker 4: It was kind of like you have to be present,
26:22
Speaker 4: you have to be creative a little bit. And there's
26:24
Speaker 4: like it's kind of a little bit of foolery too,
26:26
Speaker 4: because with sound design, so much of like so much
26:31
Speaker 4: of your subconscience and how you perceive characters and objects
26:35
Speaker 4: and different things, like it's done through sound. Perhaps the
26:38
Speaker 4: evil guy in the show you're watching, you know, his
26:41
Speaker 4: footsteps are a little deeper, and over time it kind
26:44
Speaker 4: of gives him this darker, darker like understanding of who
26:48
Speaker 4: this character is. And I just thought that was so
26:50
Speaker 4: cool because it's totally like under the radar. They're tricking
26:55
Speaker 4: you subliminal, subliminal, but it's so impactful because you know,
26:59
Speaker 4: I'm I'm sure you've heard this or someone's heard like,
27:03
Speaker 4: you know, the horror movies aren't so scary without the
27:06
Speaker 4: music or sound effects, they're really not. They're actually silly
27:08
Speaker 4: a little bit, you know. Or if you played some
27:10
Speaker 4: funny music or like some goofy circus music right over it,
27:14
Speaker 4: it's like this is hilarious, so true. You know. So
27:19
Speaker 4: that's that's what I kind of originally fell in love with.
27:21
Speaker 4: And and then you know, obviously as the sound dude
27:25
Speaker 4: for those you're involved in video, Yeah, you know, and
27:29
Speaker 4: then kind of full circle and dude, I really just
27:34
Speaker 4: think a video with good sound is a good video,
27:37
Speaker 4: Whereas I could listen to watch a bad video with
27:40
Speaker 4: good sound and be chilling, you know what I mean.
27:42
Speaker 4: I'd be good with that. But but if the good video,
27:44
Speaker 4: really Chris video, had poor sound, I think it would
27:46
Speaker 4: really pull me out.
27:47
Speaker 2: Spot On, yeah, spot on, Yeah, man, I hear you.
27:51
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to disconnect this board and bring it
27:55
Speaker 2: out into the woods and catch the peepers, but not
27:58
Speaker 2: sure I got the right mics.
27:59
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, they have some really like awesome stuff.
28:06
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the folly studios and people doing folio?
28:08
Speaker 4: Do you know what folio is?
28:09
Speaker 3: No?
28:10
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is really sick. This is called a
28:12
Speaker 4: fully artist. It's a sound artist. It's basically they have
28:15
Speaker 4: a room. It's a recording studio with like so many props,
28:19
Speaker 4: bizarre props that I'll just make noise. It's like the
28:23
Speaker 4: hinge that's a little squeaky they'll keep that okay, And
28:26
Speaker 4: they put they put the show up on the on
28:30
Speaker 4: like a movie projector, and they're got all these microphones
28:33
Speaker 4: towards them and they hit play on the thing on
28:36
Speaker 4: the on the on the video and they record the
28:39
Speaker 4: sounds they're about to make, and they literally make all
28:42
Speaker 4: the sounds live exactly to what it would be. And
28:45
Speaker 4: it's called they're called folly artists and it's so fun.
28:49
Speaker 4: They and they have so many different things, so many
28:52
Speaker 4: different things like if you're walking through snow, the person
28:55
Speaker 4: on cameras walking through snow, how you're gonna record the
28:57
Speaker 4: sound effects where they take bags of flour and they
29:00
Speaker 4: mush the flour together. Uh, and it kind of gives
29:03
Speaker 4: that like crunch and compacting of like what powder would
29:05
Speaker 4: sound like, was you like stepping it? You know what
29:07
Speaker 4: I'm talking about? Right? Yeah, yeah, it's like that's that.
29:09
Speaker 4: Or like you know, someone breaks their arm in an
29:10
Speaker 4: action movie, they take celery, they get right up to
29:13
Speaker 4: the micro snap.
29:15
Speaker 1: This is industry.
29:16
Speaker 4: It's industry, yeah, and it's right and it's all live.
29:19
Speaker 4: That's what's cool about it is like so and then
29:21
Speaker 4: so so the sound effects are almost literally tailored exactly
29:25
Speaker 4: to the movie or show or video you're watching.
29:28
Speaker 2: Tom's gonna be so blessed to have somebody who really
29:33
Speaker 2: cares about the end product so well with you. Yeah,
29:38
Speaker 2: you you are. You're so dialed into this. You know,
29:41
Speaker 2: you know what you're doing. Yeah, perfectionist. I'm not a perfectionist.
29:45
Speaker 2: I think Abbey is more of a perfectionist.
29:47
Speaker 4: Than I am. I want to It's so hard, man,
29:49
Speaker 4: because like you could get caught up on changing absolutely
29:53
Speaker 4: everything to make it perfect. It will never be perfect.
29:55
Speaker 4: It really won't be perfect. You'll always be tweaking the color.
29:58
Speaker 4: You'll always be just in the volume. You'll always be
30:00
Speaker 4: trying to you know, and especially in today's day and age,
30:05
Speaker 4: where you've got to turn content.
30:06
Speaker 1: Out right, Yeah, you're wasting time.
30:08
Speaker 4: You're wasting time, dude. That thing's old news. We need
30:11
Speaker 4: new stuff. So like you have to make it good.
30:14
Speaker 4: You have to make it.
30:16
Speaker 3: Uh.
30:17
Speaker 4: I don't want to say good enough, right because I
30:19
Speaker 4: don't want to sound like I'm setting the bar low.
30:22
Speaker 4: But at the same time, we got stuff to do,
30:24
Speaker 4: we got more stuff to get. That's old news. Sure,
30:26
Speaker 4: So you have to be you know, you have to
30:29
Speaker 4: you have to find the balance there.
30:32
Speaker 2: What's up with your shirt?
30:36
Speaker 4: Pracilion, I trained jiu jitsu.
30:39
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Does get into that?
30:41
Speaker 4: You know how to tell if someone trains jiu jitsu,
30:44
Speaker 4: Don't worry, they'll tell you. They'll just tell you because
30:49
Speaker 4: they love talking about jiu jitsu, which is me. I
30:53
Speaker 4: love talking about jiu jitsu.
30:55
Speaker 2: Rex Thompson, Yeah, is a friend of mine. He comes
30:58
Speaker 2: in here every Friday morning.
30:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I'm on the show.
31:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:01
Speaker 2: And Donny Burke Fight Promotions and just loves Brazilian jiu jitsu.
31:08
Speaker 2: That's all he wants to talk about. Oh yeah, there's
31:11
Speaker 2: something up with you guys. I don't know if you've
31:13
Speaker 2: been hitting the head or what the hell's going on
31:14
Speaker 2: a little bit, but but there's something going on with
31:17
Speaker 2: you guys where you're just like, this is how long
31:19
Speaker 2: you've been doing this?
31:20
Speaker 4: So I've been training jiu jitsu for like five years,
31:22
Speaker 4: but I've been gone all in. I'm training up to
31:25
Speaker 4: maybe even eleven times a week, and that sounds gnarly.
31:30
Speaker 4: I'm always on the match, dude. I was on the mats.
31:32
Speaker 4: I had three classes yesterday and that's just what I do.
31:35
Speaker 4: I love it. I'm training the night all the time.
31:38
Speaker 4: I wish i'll train Abby. She's not there yet. Okay,
31:41
Speaker 4: she's not there yet, not into soon. She used to
31:44
Speaker 4: train a little bit when she was younger. But all right,
31:47
Speaker 4: but just that's not her back not yet. Okay, not
31:50
Speaker 4: yet yet, No, one hundred percent, not yet. We're saying yet, correct, Okay,
31:55
Speaker 4: fair enough. Yeah, but jiu jitsu is fantastic.
31:57
Speaker 2: And this is obviously something that you have in common
32:01
Speaker 2: with Tom. Yeah, you got do you guys get together
32:04
Speaker 2: watch UFC? We watch you FC together. I think he
32:07
Speaker 2: steals my ESPN Plus account, probably does, so he gets
32:11
Speaker 2: he grabs that from me. Hey did you order the
32:14
Speaker 2: fights last night? Okay, I'm gonna log in. What's your password?
32:16
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right, yeah, but no, he he actually started,
32:21
Speaker 4: you know when I when we first started. So he
32:23
Speaker 4: had a bunch of mats from his youth and his
32:26
Speaker 4: history and past and stuff. And when his uh I
32:29
Speaker 4: started doing jiu jitsu. I was a bartender and during COVID,
32:33
Speaker 4: and I was by myself a lot because uh, not
32:37
Speaker 4: a lot of people working at that time, you know,
32:40
Speaker 4: So I was a single person in a bar into
32:43
Speaker 4: the late hours of the evening. Now, also the bar
32:47
Speaker 4: I worked that wasn't a real divy bar, was a
32:48
Speaker 4: pretty nice bar. However, all the other bars were shut down,
32:54
Speaker 4: so all the clientele who wanted to be at a
32:56
Speaker 4: bar was at a bar, and we were the only
32:58
Speaker 4: bar open. Okay, So so there were some not bad situations,
33:02
Speaker 4: but there was like an air of unsureeness. I never
33:05
Speaker 4: had trained any martial art or anything in my life,
33:08
Speaker 4: and I was out of shape as well, and you know,
33:12
Speaker 4: I nothing happened, but I was wondering, like, had something
33:16
Speaker 4: happened in those times those late hours of the morning
33:19
Speaker 4: or early hours the morning what we call it, like
33:21
Speaker 4: two am? And I was by myself. Would I be
33:25
Speaker 4: ready for that situation, like to take care of myself
33:28
Speaker 4: or protect someone or escort someone out. We didn't have
33:29
Speaker 4: even have a bouncer, you know, so that's what kind
33:31
Speaker 4: of got me into it. I knew Tom had the
33:33
Speaker 4: mats and obviously had experience, so I just kind of
33:37
Speaker 4: asked him about it, and he, you know, he we
33:39
Speaker 4: we set some mats up in the basement underneath the
33:41
Speaker 4: bar kind of like honestly like fight club, honestly like underground, underground,
33:46
Speaker 4: literally underground on the DL and during a pandemic where
33:52
Speaker 4: you know it is what it is, and sure, yeah,
33:54
Speaker 4: I was sick and there was just something kind of
33:56
Speaker 4: secretive and cool and dude. So that was after about
34:00
Speaker 4: a couple months of me training jiu jitsu, I kind
34:04
Speaker 4: of talk Tom into letting me take down some walls
34:08
Speaker 4: and basically knocking down like four walls and expanding the mats.
34:12
Speaker 4: Still underground, still super secretive. You need two keys to
34:15
Speaker 4: get in here, or you need to know the special
34:16
Speaker 4: knock on the door, we'll let you in.
34:18
Speaker 1: Nice.
34:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it was sick and then love that. Oh
34:21
Speaker 4: it's so sick, such a sick part of history. And
34:23
Speaker 4: then it grew, grew, grew, grew, gurgrew, and we decided
34:27
Speaker 4: to make your public. So now we're in Saint Albans
34:29
Speaker 4: called the Club, and we train. We got a bigger
34:32
Speaker 4: place and it's it's pretty sick. And I actually have
34:35
Speaker 4: kids programs now, beginner's programs now that I'm doing working
34:38
Speaker 4: with And dude, you said, this stuff goes hand in
34:40
Speaker 4: hand with sweets and heroes so many ways, man, the
34:43
Speaker 4: sweethearts and heroes. I've tried to incorporate a lot of
34:46
Speaker 4: their stuff into how I formulate these classes just because
34:50
Speaker 4: I've seen how well it works in terms of learning right.
34:55
Speaker 4: And Pat will tell you, Tom will tell you, everyone
34:57
Speaker 4: will tell you. Play is how you learn right. And
34:59
Speaker 4: to has been a huge mentor with me and kind
35:01
Speaker 4: of my own venture of like trying to trying to
35:04
Speaker 4: do this kid's jiu jitsu thing. He's been a huge
35:06
Speaker 4: supporter and stuff, and I've just literally tried to listen
35:08
Speaker 4: to everything he said about and keeping the the classes playful,
35:14
Speaker 4: all this stuff, all this stuff, and you know, I
35:16
Speaker 4: have my doubts, like are they learning anything? We're just
35:18
Speaker 4: playing games like they can't be learning anything. I'm thinking
35:23
Speaker 4: they're not. And then when push comes to shove and
35:25
Speaker 4: they're actually learning so much, it astonishes me because I'm like,
35:30
Speaker 4: how how do you remember this? I showed you this
35:33
Speaker 4: one time and then we played freeze tag. How do
35:35
Speaker 4: you remember this? But dude, and a lot of the
35:38
Speaker 4: times I literally steal their formula. I get them going first.
35:42
Speaker 4: We start with dodgeball. Most people end with dodgeball. It's
35:45
Speaker 4: like that's your your yes, that's your reward, you've been
35:49
Speaker 4: good today, you can throw. I start with dodgeball. It's
35:51
Speaker 4: the same formula as a circle. So this is what
35:53
Speaker 4: my teen class looks like. First of all, I mixed
35:55
Speaker 4: ages have the I have four year olds to nine
35:58
Speaker 4: year olds. That's quite the range of developed mental ages. Sure,
36:02
Speaker 4: you know there's not a classroom in America that's a
36:04
Speaker 4: four year old to a nine year.
36:05
Speaker 1: Old big time.
36:05
Speaker 4: But you look at what Sweethearts and Heroes does with
36:10
Speaker 4: their Braves program, where you have these high schoolers and
36:13
Speaker 4: older kids going on to these younger students. Yeah, that's
36:15
Speaker 4: where the meaningful connection happens. Modeling of like social norms happen.
36:20
Speaker 4: Everything in this age mix learning, age mix play.
36:23
Speaker 2: Well, these kids are watching, they're watching you, and they're
36:27
Speaker 2: watching others with Sweethearts and Heroes, but they're also watching
36:32
Speaker 2: their peers, their peers, especially the older kids. Yeah, the
36:37
Speaker 2: younger kids are watching the older kids. That's exactly what
36:39
Speaker 2: they're doing. And you see it in schools with Seeearts
36:41
Speaker 2: and Heroes. And I basically kind of tested it. I've
36:44
Speaker 2: really put it under like my own like test. If
36:47
Speaker 2: you will not then I'm like a scientist or anything.
36:49
Speaker 4: But but and I and it's just so evident, so
36:53
Speaker 4: evident that that's how it works. And we basically do
36:56
Speaker 4: an activity first, an activator, and then we circle up
36:59
Speaker 4: and we talk, we ask a question. I let them
37:01
Speaker 4: come up with a question, right, like how Pat does,
37:04
Speaker 4: like how Tom does with circle and stuff. And it's
37:06
Speaker 4: just so awesome to see this. These these are human skills.
37:09
Speaker 4: Sweets and heroes has human skills. It's not just school
37:11
Speaker 4: stuff like anyone. And this is just kind of cool
37:14
Speaker 4: because so I've taken this right for this little mini example,
37:18
Speaker 4: I've taken this and I've kind of applied their model
37:21
Speaker 4: to how I'm running my business right, my gym, whatever
37:24
Speaker 4: we call it. Anyone can do that with their business
37:29
Speaker 4: or restaurant or anything, and it'll literally just make it better, better, better, better,
37:34
Speaker 4: and a place you want to work, a place that
37:36
Speaker 4: you like, a place that you feel like cares about you,
37:40
Speaker 4: and therefore you care about it and you want to
37:44
Speaker 4: try your hardest to make it the best it can
37:46
Speaker 4: be instead of just being like clock and clock out.
37:50
Speaker 4: Take advantage of this I'm doing, you know what I mean?
37:52
Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, it's just it's just so Yeah, I
37:55
Speaker 4: want to ask you.
37:56
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, and I can't help but
37:59
Speaker 2: wonder so I'm going to ask you a personal question.
38:03
Speaker 1: How old.
38:04
Speaker 4: Are you I am twenty nine?
38:07
Speaker 1: Are you dad?
38:08
Speaker 4: I am not a dad.
38:10
Speaker 2: Do you aspire to be a dad? Do you dream
38:13
Speaker 2: of being a dad?
38:15
Speaker 4: Yeah? I guess that's I mean, I don't. I wouldn't
38:17
Speaker 4: say I dream of it, but I do smile when
38:20
Speaker 4: I think of the idea and the possibilities of, like,
38:24
Speaker 4: you know, trying to teach or help or train.
38:31
Speaker 2: Bring someone into this Yeah, absolutely insane world.
38:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's kind of interesting to toy with that
38:40
Speaker 4: idea and like wonder and like how it's going to
38:42
Speaker 4: work out, and oh I wish I could, you know,
38:44
Speaker 4: like and I like that and I like seeing people
38:48
Speaker 4: kind of I don't know, get helped by kind of
38:55
Speaker 4: something that might have might have Yeah, I might have
38:58
Speaker 4: had a hand in that. Yeah.
39:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I became a dad much much later in life.
39:06
Speaker 2: I was forty three when Lily was born, and man,
39:10
Speaker 2: it is it is a constant job. I could imagine,
39:16
Speaker 2: mean kids just have in the older they get, the
39:21
Speaker 2: more complex it seems to get where you need to
39:25
Speaker 2: be on your toes. And I'm sure I shouldn't assume,
39:31
Speaker 2: but it seems like it would be easy for you
39:35
Speaker 2: to be in what you do for sweethearts and heroes
39:39
Speaker 2: at twenty nine years old, seeing hearing, experiencing what you're
39:43
Speaker 2: experiencing with these schools, to imagine yourself as a father,
39:51
Speaker 2: and how you would respond react if that was your
39:59
Speaker 2: kid who said that or felt that way.
40:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, it's what you're seeing in your camera. Yeah, no,
40:09
Speaker 4: I know. I think it's helped me a lot, and
40:10
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it is kind of simulated
40:14
Speaker 4: slowly my own personal journey into maybe being a father someday. Yeah,
40:18
Speaker 4: I definitely think so. And even with jiu jitsu, I
40:20
Speaker 4: get that question a lot, like, oh, do you have kids? Wait,
40:23
Speaker 4: you're gonna be a great dad. They say this, you know,
40:25
Speaker 4: and it's like I joke with them. It's like I
40:27
Speaker 4: get them, get to give him back after an hour. Yeah,
40:29
Speaker 4: I can be a good dad for an hour, sure,
40:31
Speaker 4: you know, Like I joke with him. But it's funny
40:33
Speaker 4: that you said that you had you had Lily, yes
40:36
Speaker 4: later in life. I don't think that's a bad thing, man,
40:39
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty sweet. We were just talking to
40:42
Speaker 4: uh Peter Hawk is his name, and he is the owner,
40:48
Speaker 4: I don't know, runner of this organization called Flying Ryan Organization.
40:54
Speaker 4: His son, Ryan Hawk from Vermont, phenomenal skier, just tore
40:59
Speaker 4: it up like world class, bombing hills, sending flips, all
41:05
Speaker 4: this stuff, traveling all the all around the world California,
41:08
Speaker 4: competing and just absolutely representing Vermont and just crushing it.
41:13
Speaker 4: And unfortunately he took a Unfortunately, fortunately he took a
41:20
Speaker 4: spill and anyways, it ended up they ended up having
41:24
Speaker 4: to pull the plug or you know, and it is
41:27
Speaker 4: what it is. But Peter, the reason why I went
41:30
Speaker 4: into this was because Peter was like fifty when he
41:33
Speaker 4: had his son. And I think it's interesting because I
41:37
Speaker 4: think the older the father is when they have their child,
41:39
Speaker 4: it almost makes their child more of like one of
41:42
Speaker 4: those old souls, do you know what I'm talking about?
41:45
Speaker 4: And because Ryan, and I think and Ryan was very
41:50
Speaker 4: like kind of mature. He had it's he well, he
41:53
Speaker 4: had fun, you know, he he had fun, and he
41:55
Speaker 4: also he also did some things that would surprise you
41:58
Speaker 4: as a child, as like a twenty five year old
42:00
Speaker 4: young person. And I don't know, I just think there's
42:04
Speaker 4: something to having like that older father figure in your
42:07
Speaker 4: life and you never know the impact that has. And
42:09
Speaker 4: I almost think it's worth like like cause you got
42:13
Speaker 4: to let your stuff settle, you know what I mean?
42:15
Speaker 4: And like, once you get a little older and you've
42:17
Speaker 4: kind of gone through the like the angst and the
42:20
Speaker 4: young like testosterone filled quick to rage kind of like yo,
42:23
Speaker 4: like stick it to the man kind of I think
42:26
Speaker 4: thing which is natural once you've kind of gone over
42:29
Speaker 4: that hill and you've gained some wisdom and made your mistakes.
42:31
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, that's the time to do it. To
42:34
Speaker 4: raise a child.
42:35
Speaker 2: It's so interesting to hear that, Wow, what are you
42:42
Speaker 2: hoping to do with your career? What is the next
42:48
Speaker 2: thing that you want to do either with sweethearts and heroes.
42:55
Speaker 1: Or beyond.
42:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think definitely just reflecting I've liked I've
43:01
Speaker 4: liked helping people. I liked teaching people, and I didn't
43:04
Speaker 4: know that's what I liked. But as I look backwards,
43:08
Speaker 4: I do see that's the pattern. Now. I used to
43:10
Speaker 4: teach snowboarding for about ten years. I got hired as
43:13
Speaker 4: a snowboard instruct when I was fourteen years old. Wow,
43:15
Speaker 4: so I was kind of like formally trained to teach
43:19
Speaker 4: at a young age and I did that for like
43:24
Speaker 4: ten years, went to school, did the restaurant, thing, was
43:27
Speaker 4: a bartender, did a cook. As a cook, I was
43:30
Speaker 4: like the leader of the kitchen for a little bit,
43:33
Speaker 4: and I was teaching high school students how to chop
43:36
Speaker 4: onions safely, how to kind of you know, hey, man,
43:40
Speaker 4: it's important to work hard, you know. And don't you
43:43
Speaker 4: quit on me now, dude, where if you quit on me,
43:47
Speaker 4: you quit on all of us.
43:48
Speaker 1: We're screwed.
43:49
Speaker 4: We're screwed. And I don't know, so I'd like to
43:52
Speaker 4: think that those mini lessons are something that are pretty
43:54
Speaker 4: applicable to their entire lives and how they approach lives.
43:57
Speaker 1: It's a great mindset.
43:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great mindset, you know, ju jitsu, teaching
44:01
Speaker 4: all ages, sweets and heroes, filming, interacting with these students,
44:05
Speaker 4: talking to them, listening to them. I think for this
44:08
Speaker 4: next year, the plan is for me to start helping
44:13
Speaker 4: and being not in front of the camera, but maybe
44:16
Speaker 4: without a camera in these schools, Yeah, and kind of
44:18
Speaker 4: working with students, taking them through our step program, just
44:24
Speaker 4: some local schools where I grew up. Actually my elementary
44:27
Speaker 4: in middle school, which is going to be a trip. Man,
44:30
Speaker 4: that's going to be a trip, because what school this
44:32
Speaker 4: is Georgia Elementary Middle school now right here in Vermont,
44:35
Speaker 4: right here in Vermont, correct. Yeah, And you know I
44:38
Speaker 4: was saying this to Tom, and it's like the first
44:40
Speaker 4: time I went back, it's like, oh dude, awkward. I'm
44:43
Speaker 4: like cringing as I'm walking through the halls because I
44:46
Speaker 4: used to be a little rascal, you know what I mean.
44:50
Speaker 4: In those schools. I would do stuff I got voted
44:52
Speaker 4: the class clown.
44:53
Speaker 1: Capital Capital R on that rascal.
44:55
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, Capital R. And my parents both work
44:59
Speaker 4: for the dish. So I never really got held accountable
45:02
Speaker 4: for some of my shenanigans because I would always joke
45:05
Speaker 4: like my mom's the one who pays you, stupid joke
45:09
Speaker 4: like I would. I would, and they knew it, you know,
45:12
Speaker 4: like teachers knew it. So I don't know if I
45:14
Speaker 4: necessarily got the fair treatment of getting in trouble. But
45:17
Speaker 4: in hindsight, I was a kid man like you know,
45:20
Speaker 4: So when I walked through these halls, it's like I
45:22
Speaker 4: remember being in that classroom getting in trouble there, you know.
45:25
Speaker 4: And I was talking to tell him about I said,
45:28
Speaker 4: oh man, I could I could do this step thing
45:30
Speaker 4: where I go back and do this schools. But then
45:33
Speaker 4: I said to him and said, it's just kind of
45:34
Speaker 4: awkward because you know, I wasn't really a model student,
45:37
Speaker 4: and he's the one who brought up to me. He said,
45:39
Speaker 4: what a beautiful story. How you were an influencer. I
45:44
Speaker 4: influenced people one hundred percent. I was not an unpopular kid.
45:47
Speaker 4: I had a ton of friends. We were having fun,
45:49
Speaker 4: you know, but perhaps I didn't lead them the right way,
45:51
Speaker 4: and I was celebrated. This is what's interesting when we
45:55
Speaker 4: talk about celebrating kids students. I was celebrated for being
45:59
Speaker 4: the class clown. Dude, when I got nominated and won
46:02
Speaker 4: that as a little eighth grader, that was huge, dude,
46:05
Speaker 4: sure sick. What am I doing in high school?
46:08
Speaker 2: Is that.
46:10
Speaker 4: It should be you know what it should be? Actually yeah,
46:13
Speaker 4: you know, but at the time, it's like that's like
46:15
Speaker 4: a massive like I don't know, you feel important, yeah,
46:19
Speaker 4: but you might be, you know, like almost pinning that
46:23
Speaker 4: kid into that role in a way, and then it
46:28
Speaker 4: needs you need to be celebrated for something different or
46:30
Speaker 4: maybe something productive to kind of break that cycle or
46:37
Speaker 4: kind of like avoid it, like could you be the
46:38
Speaker 4: class clown and be productive? And Tom was just basically
46:41
Speaker 4: saying to me, like, it's just a beautiful story. The
46:43
Speaker 4: character arc of that now you're returning into this school
46:47
Speaker 4: promoting something different based on who he used to be.
46:49
Speaker 4: It's just it's really the sweethearts in hero's message kind
46:52
Speaker 4: of that's the big picture. Man, that's like the loop.
46:55
Speaker 4: That's like part of that loop. So so it's kind
46:59
Speaker 4: of changed my approach to I'm embracing that that new
47:02
Speaker 4: step no pun intended into into this Isn't it.
47:09
Speaker 2: Refreshing at the very least. Two working with Tom that
47:15
Speaker 2: the way he's wired is no matter what it is
47:21
Speaker 2: that you say that, he looks at it as a gift,
47:27
Speaker 2: whatever your experience is, whatever your your story is. He's like, Yeah,
47:34
Speaker 2: that's that's usable, that's that's teachable, that's that's that's a gift.
47:39
Speaker 2: That's valuable. Yeah, whether even if it's something that's frankly horrible. Yeah,
47:45
Speaker 2: that that you're you're going.
47:47
Speaker 4: Through exactly, that's Tom and that's Rick. Look at both
47:50
Speaker 4: of that, you know what I mean Like, yeah, and
47:53
Speaker 4: you know, if you've got you know, it's kind of
47:56
Speaker 4: interesting because if you just say good to something, you know,
48:02
Speaker 4: and you just start there and kind of approach all
48:05
Speaker 4: other thoughts or actions through that lens. Sure, then what
48:10
Speaker 4: bad could it be? It couldn't be, you know, because
48:12
Speaker 4: you've started it and good, you know what I mean.
48:15
Speaker 4: And the same thing with Tom, like over the past,
48:18
Speaker 4: I mean, I hear you ask people on here, like
48:20
Speaker 4: you know, Tom's always doing something. He doesn't stop working,
48:23
Speaker 4: he doesn't stop working. And like, in a way that's
48:25
Speaker 4: good too, you know, because like if every idea you
48:28
Speaker 4: have you say no to, like in a way, that's
48:33
Speaker 4: not very you know, that's not growing. If you say
48:37
Speaker 4: yes and toy with idea and play with it, you know.
48:40
Speaker 4: I just think, I just think sometimes we ourselves can
48:43
Speaker 4: be our own kind of filters or barriers. And if
48:47
Speaker 4: it's either bad or no, that's where you want to start. Well,
48:50
Speaker 4: it's going to be tough to get off that platform.
48:53
Speaker 4: But if you start with like yes or good, now
48:57
Speaker 4: what Like I don't know. I just feel like even
48:59
Speaker 4: maybe or even maybe is a better a better step.
49:03
Speaker 4: Maybe he's cool because maybe he's fluid, you have options
49:06
Speaker 4: that maybe you know what I mean. It's it's not
49:08
Speaker 4: boxing yourself in if you immediately say no or bad,
49:12
Speaker 4: like I don't know, and that's hard man, because it's
49:14
Speaker 4: it's human nature to kind of like, I don't know,
49:18
Speaker 4: we don't have enough, we don't. It's like, but it's
49:20
Speaker 4: it's stressful, dude.
49:22
Speaker 2: You know, I was in a I was in my
49:26
Speaker 2: first Tom Murphy circle. I mean there's circles and then
49:32
Speaker 2: there's a Tom Murphy circle.
49:35
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I'm saying, dude. I know he
49:38
Speaker 4: collects the tears of children God.
49:42
Speaker 1: And it was it was an experience, yeah, you know.
49:46
Speaker 2: And and I was able to podcast a little bit
49:48
Speaker 2: with some of the students there at PERU.
49:51
Speaker 4: I know, it was awesome episode.
49:52
Speaker 2: And I was like, have fun interrupt go yeah.
50:01
Speaker 1: And they were like, no, no, these are our rules.
50:05
Speaker 2: Now whoever has the microphone is speaking, and if you
50:10
Speaker 2: don't have the microphone.
50:12
Speaker 4: Zip it.
50:14
Speaker 2: I'm not used to that, but I know that was
50:17
Speaker 2: very difficult for me to sit there listen to not
50:23
Speaker 2: just two or three people, but several people. And I'm
50:30
Speaker 2: I'm a naturally inquisitive kui. I got questions, I got
50:34
Speaker 2: follow up questions. Here are tons, yeah, and it was
50:37
Speaker 2: so hard for me to sit and force myself.
50:42
Speaker 1: To listen, but I had to.
50:45
Speaker 2: And Tom's like, you're not understanding this Bob, that's what
50:51
Speaker 2: this is about. Yeah, it's about listening. It's not about
50:56
Speaker 2: learning more and asking questions and stuff. That was very
51:00
Speaker 2: hard for me.
51:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could imagine.
51:02
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I.
51:04
Speaker 2: Got three follow up questions for this, dude, Yeah, I
51:08
Speaker 2: got three or four follow up questions for that one.
51:10
Speaker 2: How am I going to memorize all this stuff by
51:12
Speaker 2: the time this whole circle thing is over?
51:15
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know that's so that's such a great point.
51:19
Speaker 4: That's such a great point because that happens to me too.
51:22
Speaker 4: I think we're similar in that respect in terms of,
51:24
Speaker 4: like we wonder we want to keep the conversation going, evolving.
51:30
Speaker 4: I do it out of learning, but I also kind
51:32
Speaker 4: of feel like I do it out of a social
51:34
Speaker 4: obligation as well. Yeah, do you know what I'm saying?
51:36
Speaker 4: Kind of right, And then in regards to this, it's
51:39
Speaker 4: almost like, you know, I used to do a radio
51:40
Speaker 4: show back in college, and like I would always get
51:43
Speaker 4: kind of flack for maybe allowing too much dead air
51:46
Speaker 4: or something. So I would kind of be trained to
51:49
Speaker 4: fill stuff phil, you know. And then in circle, like
51:52
Speaker 4: when you have follow up questions and you're like, bro,
51:55
Speaker 4: I got three for you, I have three things. I
51:56
Speaker 4: got two. It's like one. I think first of all,
52:00
Speaker 4: you get muddied up in your own conscience and trying
52:02
Speaker 4: to soar and memorize instead of just being that's tricky
52:06
Speaker 4: to break. You know what I'm saying, But it's important.
52:09
Speaker 4: It's crucial to this for the circle to work, and
52:11
Speaker 4: it'll happen as you practice it because listening is a skill.
52:14
Speaker 4: It truly is a skill. It truly is a skill.
52:16
Speaker 4: And then also by the time that thing gets around
52:19
Speaker 4: to you, even if you remember it all socially, you're
52:24
Speaker 4: not gonna ask everyone those questions. You're not just gonna
52:26
Speaker 4: dump it out. You might ask like one or two.
52:30
Speaker 4: So I think it also promotes like, really, what's important
52:33
Speaker 4: and let's let's fire those do you know what I'm saying,
52:36
Speaker 4: kind of instead of just blasting everyone all this stuff, right,
52:40
Speaker 4: which is what happens all the time, dude, Like all
52:43
Speaker 4: the time it's just produced, consume, produce, consume. It can
52:46
Speaker 4: be you know what I'm saying. And perhaps some of
52:49
Speaker 4: the meaning and actual deliberate uh oh, I have something
52:53
Speaker 4: to say to you after some of the deliberate like
52:57
Speaker 4: choosing you know, it might it might fall to the wayside,
53:02
Speaker 4: if you if you if you're not super I don't know.
53:05
Speaker 4: Do you get what I'm saying? Kind of like that,
53:07
Speaker 4: and I think it's worth exploring. Okay, yeah, you said
53:11
Speaker 4: you had four rs on this podcast. Bro, I disagree
53:14
Speaker 4: with you. I think real. I think real is the
53:19
Speaker 4: one you said relatable. But I think if you are real,
53:25
Speaker 4: you will is.
53:26
Speaker 1: The first one. Yes, Okay, you think that's the most
53:28
Speaker 1: important one.
53:29
Speaker 4: I would think so, I would think so. I mean,
53:33
Speaker 4: I think you know. That's the reason why I said
53:36
Speaker 4: real is because I think real is the most important one,
53:41
Speaker 4: because how can you be relatable if you're not real? Man?
53:45
Speaker 4: You know, I think everything channels through that. Do you
53:50
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
53:51
Speaker 2: I do.
53:53
Speaker 4: You're pretty real. So that's why I relate to you.
53:58
Speaker 1: You know.
53:59
Speaker 2: Tom said to me when I was when I was
54:02
Speaker 2: all done in Peru, dude, call me, and I'm like, oh,
54:09
Speaker 2: here we go.
54:11
Speaker 1: Here we go.
54:14
Speaker 2: Entering into the world of Tom Murphy. I know he's
54:18
Speaker 2: going to pummel me with questions, but he only had
54:24
Speaker 2: really one question, which was what you think?
54:28
Speaker 4: Of course, what a great question for real? I know,
54:33
Speaker 4: what a great question.
54:34
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm like, okay, so
54:41
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell him what I think and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
54:44
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, But what's what's like the real big takeaway
54:48
Speaker 2: that you had from circle? And I said that it
54:54
Speaker 2: was very difficult for me to to listen and to
54:58
Speaker 2: not get answers to the questions, the follow up questions
55:03
Speaker 2: that I had, and he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know,
55:07
Speaker 2: but what's what's even what's even bigger than that? And
55:13
Speaker 2: I had to stop and think to myself, and I'm like,
55:16
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is that I remember every
55:24
Speaker 2: single story that was shared by those kids that went
55:31
Speaker 2: around the circle. I remembered them. I still remember them.
55:40
Speaker 2: Maybe their stories would not have resonated or have been
55:48
Speaker 2: remembered as well by me. Maybe they would be clouded
55:53
Speaker 2: a little bit or deluded if I were to get
55:56
Speaker 2: all of the answers to my follow up questions, but
56:00
Speaker 2: just to shut up and be quiet and listen. There's
56:06
Speaker 2: only one direction, and it's from them to your ears.
56:13
Speaker 2: It's it's not reciprocal, and I think, I don't know.
56:19
Speaker 2: I think that was one of the big things is
56:21
Speaker 2: that I was forced to be quiet, which is the
56:27
Speaker 2: absolute opposite of what I do here. I encourage interrupting
56:32
Speaker 2: and engagement that way.
56:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's Yeah, there's so much to be you know,
56:38
Speaker 4: said and thought about about that, man, Like you know,
56:41
Speaker 4: I just I like to play with that idea as well.
56:44
Speaker 4: And I think, like, dude, like if I only you know,
56:48
Speaker 4: understood or tried to understand like myself and my own stories,
56:51
Speaker 4: like do you know the smallest little fraction of the
56:54
Speaker 4: human experience I've I've been involved in, you know what
56:57
Speaker 4: I'm saying kind of like so like when I listen
56:59
Speaker 4: to other people's stories and even this series we're about
57:02
Speaker 4: to start cranking on called Force through Hope, which is
57:05
Speaker 4: a real powerful, like super top secret forged Force through Hope,
57:10
Speaker 4: Man through Hope. Yeah, And it's basically, you know, I'll
57:13
Speaker 4: just tell you what it is. It's like, you know,
57:14
Speaker 4: we view some of our struggles which are very very
57:18
Speaker 4: much considered in the struggle struggle category, and instead of
57:23
Speaker 4: letting that just destroy us and squash us down and
57:26
Speaker 4: put our fire out. Essentially, what Force through Hope is
57:29
Speaker 4: is we take that, we travel through those stories and
57:31
Speaker 4: those experiences, and then we come out on the other
57:35
Speaker 4: side way stronger, than the person were we went in
57:39
Speaker 4: and we were forged you know, hard unpleasant environment, very
57:45
Speaker 4: very very extreme scenarios, and.
57:48
Speaker 5: The the the tool that we are like the you know,
57:54
Speaker 5: like the hardness of us, the hope, the the resiliency
57:58
Speaker 5: and every you know attribute when we come out of
58:01
Speaker 5: those circumstances, we leverage into being better.
58:05
Speaker 4: And that's essentially what we're trying to capture on camera
58:07
Speaker 4: right now through these interviews series that we're doing. And
58:12
Speaker 4: where I was going with this is you know, doing
58:15
Speaker 4: this listening to these stories, whether it be circle or
58:18
Speaker 4: behind the camera. In my scenario right now, like you're
58:21
Speaker 4: getting so much experience of other humans, experience, you know,
58:28
Speaker 4: in condition that you really I am fortunate enough to
58:32
Speaker 4: never have gone through some of these things even remotely close.
58:36
Speaker 4: Like take Rick for example, man like like bro that's wild.
58:41
Speaker 4: The week or two before, he says to his friend,
58:44
Speaker 4: literally I'm not sure if he said this to you.
58:46
Speaker 4: I think he said this to you, but it's out
58:48
Speaker 4: in the open. He said, if I ever lose my leg,
58:51
Speaker 4: I want you to kill me. He said it, and
58:56
Speaker 4: he meant it, meant it because he's seeing all these people,
58:59
Speaker 4: you know, and then it's like, hey, dude, now what
59:04
Speaker 4: you know? And then he got he and Rick, you
59:07
Speaker 4: heard it. He's way better now than he has ever been,
59:10
Speaker 4: way stronger. And look at all the people he's impacting,
59:13
Speaker 4: Haley for example, complete derivative right from Rick. You know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And this is the chain, this is
59:19
Speaker 4: the contagion of this, hope. Your struggles don't necessarily define you,
59:25
Speaker 4: but they do build you, and they do make you.
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Speaker 4: And that's what's kind of cool about it. And you know, yeah,
59:32
Speaker 4: that's what that's what I like, and that's you know,
59:34
Speaker 4: I think it's very poetic in a way and very
59:38
Speaker 4: much a good kind of mindset, you know, instead of
59:42
Speaker 4: instead of looking at it as in a negative window.
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Speaker 2: We yeah, we talked about what what happened to me
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Speaker 2: versus what happened for me. One of Rick's greatest gifts,
59:55
Speaker 2: I think, and I think he knows this. I think
59:58
Speaker 2: anyone that knows Rick knows this is time. Time has
1:00:05
Speaker 2: allowed him the amazing gift of being able to look
1:00:10
Speaker 2: back in perspective and say, I'm glad this happened for me.
1:00:18
Speaker 2: I'm better because of it. I'm a different person. At
1:00:22
Speaker 2: the time, and Rick was saying this at the time,
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Speaker 2: nothing could have possibly been worse. How is there anything
1:00:34
Speaker 2: good about this or could become good about this? And
1:00:41
Speaker 2: here he is looking back saying, what a great gift.
1:00:45
Speaker 2: Look at you know what I've won of one time.
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Speaker 2: I'm here, Yeah, I'm here.
1:00:50
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's such a bizarre concept time, Like you know,
1:00:56
Speaker 4: and in Rick scenario, some traumas are strung out throughout time,
1:01:00
Speaker 4: like you know, maybe abusive relationships or drug addiction or something.
1:01:06
Speaker 4: But Rix was instantaneous, you know, and then all the
1:01:10
Speaker 4: time it takes to recover from it, and you know,
1:01:14
Speaker 4: and that's what everything. Time is so bizarre, man, what
1:01:16
Speaker 4: a bizarre like even concept.
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Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with Rick.
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Speaker 2: Rick Yarrish is one of the team members, one of
1:01:25
Speaker 2: the family members of Sweethearts and Heroes who was blown
1:01:31
Speaker 2: up out of a Bradley tank during during the war
1:01:38
Speaker 2: out in the Middle East and was covered in diesel
1:01:42
Speaker 2: fuel and was burning alive.
1:01:43
Speaker 4: Burning alive, and then like it doesn't even stop there,
1:01:47
Speaker 4: like and then he rolled into like a sewer pit. Yeah,
1:01:51
Speaker 4: and then you know it's.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: Like broke his leg from from jumping out of the
1:01:57
Speaker 2: or falling out of the ten feet high out of
1:02:01
Speaker 2: this Bradley Yeah vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I mean, And.
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Speaker 4: It's always in then with that story, man, And it's
1:02:08
Speaker 4: just like whoa, whoa, whoa. And then when you hear
1:02:11
Speaker 4: that as someone who's feeling maybe down on yourself or
1:02:15
Speaker 4: or thinking it's the end of the road for you.
1:02:18
Speaker 4: Any age, any age, that's another thing. It's any age.
1:02:22
Speaker 4: It's not just children, it's it's adult, it's linemen in America,
1:02:27
Speaker 4: it's other veterans, it's you know, dude, it's it's the
1:02:30
Speaker 4: human existence. When you hear Rick's story or ones like it,
1:02:35
Speaker 4: you realize that there still isn't in then for yourself,
1:02:38
Speaker 4: and you might wanna, you know, and there's a road
1:02:40
Speaker 4: to recovery whatever that may be. And hold on the
1:02:43
Speaker 4: possibilities do exist, which involves time, the bizarre concept of
1:02:48
Speaker 4: you know, just keep letting it tick and keep trying,
1:02:51
Speaker 4: you know, like, don't give up, hold on, hold on,
1:02:54
Speaker 4: holding on to something's in action, man, Like you can
1:02:56
Speaker 4: really break this down, like that's an act. That's a
1:02:59
Speaker 4: choice of Literally, I'm not letting go. It's will. It's will,
1:03:04
Speaker 4: its action, its effort, and possibilities is trust and faith,
1:03:08
Speaker 4: I would say, and they exist, you know, what I mean,
1:03:12
Speaker 4: it's just so deep, like that one acronym, you know
1:03:15
Speaker 4: how Tom lost acronyms, but like it's so deep, there's
1:03:19
Speaker 4: so much packed in there. If you really think about
1:03:20
Speaker 4: holding on to the possibilities that exists, they exist.
1:03:23
Speaker 2: They're there, and sometimes for many of us, this can
1:03:29
Speaker 2: be a this this can be something that we have
1:03:33
Speaker 2: to be saying to ourselves out loud, like almost every
1:03:37
Speaker 2: every minute of the day for some of us.
1:03:40
Speaker 4: Probably until it becomes instinctual or habit, or maybe it
1:03:43
Speaker 4: never will be. And it's a good practice to just do.
1:03:46
Speaker 4: I think you're right with that.
1:03:47
Speaker 2: Man speaking of Alignment North Line Utilities. Nathan Buttewell is
1:03:52
Speaker 2: going to be in here on the tail end of
1:03:54
Speaker 2: the month, last Wednesday of July, so.
1:03:59
Speaker 4: All right right on looking forward to wait, you know,
1:04:01
Speaker 4: that'll be a great show man. And so it's some
1:04:03
Speaker 4: of the stuff that those guys do. We put a
1:04:05
Speaker 4: little clip together, I mean, and I worked on a
1:04:07
Speaker 4: little video for a presentation Tom was doing. And man,
1:04:10
Speaker 4: some of the predicaments that they're in in their.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: Career, A lot of untold stuff.
1:04:16
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah, and then like leaving your family
1:04:20
Speaker 4: for long periods of time and just like, yeah, so
1:04:22
Speaker 4: much stuff, so much stressful environments.
1:04:25
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, wild Rick's going to be back pretty soon.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: Josiah is going to be on the air with us
1:04:31
Speaker 2: as well, Brian is going to be on with us.
1:04:34
Speaker 2: I think next Wednesday. We've got a lot of stuff
1:04:37
Speaker 2: going on with you, guys. Man, it's gonna be fantastic.
1:04:41
Speaker 2: Thank you ever so much for getting in here. Thanks
1:04:45
Speaker 2: to Abby, thanks to Tom, thanks to all of you
1:04:50
Speaker 2: for having the amazing impacts that you continue to do
1:04:56
Speaker 2: and continue to have on so many people, not just kids, been.
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Speaker 4: Dude, I hope not not just kids. Thank you very much, man,
1:05:04
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, assa