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Patriots Unfiltered 7/7: Training Camp Storylines, FIFA World Cup, Offseason Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota dot Com.
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 5: at Gillette Stadium. Boy, it's easy to get confused these days.
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  Speaker 5: We are here at our normal time noon. We're getting
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  Speaker 5: to the end. Yeah, Thursday is our last World Cup
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  Speaker 5: game here at Boston Stadium. So a big quarterfinal game
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  Speaker 5: was a Morocco in France.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, in the house.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it could have been a better job. But anyway,
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  Speaker 5: it's a.
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  Speaker 6: Good game, you think. So it's like two of the
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  Speaker 6: top six teams. Well, now they're all the top teams, right,
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  Speaker 6: but I mean they're highly ranked. Yeah, Like Norway has
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  Speaker 6: played really well in the World Cup, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: think they're like one of the top five.
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  Speaker 5: Or six teams in the world anyway.
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  Speaker 6: So PAULI, mister soccer, I know nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure we're going to get into what happened last
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  Speaker 5: night in a little bit. But it's Paul, it's me.
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  Speaker 5: It's deuce, it's Alex. Evan is on vacation. Yeah what
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  Speaker 5: what What is vacation for Evan?
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  Speaker 7: I think he goes out to the vineyards. The vineyards,
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  Speaker 7: that's his special spot out there. He always takes a nice,
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  Speaker 7: nice vacation out there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so enjoying his time.
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  Speaker 7: Although we were hearing plenty from him on the text
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  Speaker 7: messages about the soccer in fairness kind of yeah, jumped
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  Speaker 7: into it.
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  Speaker 8: And then I sent him a wellness shuck too after
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  Speaker 8: the Jilen Brown trade.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 6: What that was about.
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  Speaker 7: I literally had no idea when you were like, sorry,
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  Speaker 7: I was on vacation myself.
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  Speaker 6: I had no idea.
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  Speaker 5: So I wasn't here last week. Did you guys talk
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  Speaker 5: about the Jaylen Brown?
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  Speaker 6: No, I wasn't here either, So no, So that happened
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  Speaker 6: after after the show was over, so we didn't get
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  Speaker 6: a chance to get the real Evan on the morning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but it was a bad trade. I mean that's a
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  Speaker 6: bad yea.
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  Speaker 5: I have thoughts on that, like I have, I have thoughts.
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  Speaker 6: Like I'm not one of these like how could you
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  Speaker 6: trade Jalen Brown? Guys, Like I understand what they were doing.
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  Speaker 6: I understand why they did it to an extent, but
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  Speaker 6: that's a bad trade. You have to get someone.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they panicked, But to me, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: stories that come out of that. One of them is
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  Speaker 5: the power of the superstar in the NBA. I mean
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  Speaker 5: that Jason. I mean a lot of this has to
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  Speaker 5: do with Jason Tatum too, you know. And in no
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  Speaker 5: sports league do superstars have that much power than the NBA.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe in European soccer and those premier leagues. But
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  Speaker 5: it's it's incredible. But you know, we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 5: The Patriots. Thing that's on my mind is Gay Bacchus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: what was he He was some squats, doing squats like
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  Speaker 5: four hundred, five hundred pounds, looking good, looking good. So
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  Speaker 5: that got me excited the fact that he wanted to
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  Speaker 5: post that to show people here I am working out.
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  Speaker 5: Have we heard anything about like if when he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: sign and when he's going to be here or if
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be here thing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is what I've been holding out hopefully hoping
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  Speaker 7: that maybe it would get done. But he's the last
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  Speaker 7: second round pick, unsigned you know, I hope that they
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  Speaker 7: would get something done before training camp. But that's going
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  Speaker 7: to be him and Gonzales. They're going to be the two.
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  Speaker 7: Where are they that first day of camp?
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  Speaker 6: Are they here? Are they watching? Are they not out here?
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  Speaker 6: What's good? It's good to to me, it's it's a
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  Speaker 6: physical thing. So if it was in fact, and I
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  Speaker 6: know that, no one's really definitively said exactly what the
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  Speaker 6: situation is. Mike Reese has called it a knee injury.
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  Speaker 6: That's good enough for me because I believe in in Mike.
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  Speaker 6: So if he's squatting to that extent, the knee injury
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't be an issue. He'll be here for training again.
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  Speaker 6: If this is not an issue about signing, it's to
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  Speaker 6: me it's a health issue, and I'm still concerned until
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  Speaker 6: I see him on the practice field, hopefully that will
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  Speaker 6: be the first day of training.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's an issue about the knee and also communication.
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  Speaker 5: I think the page is like, whoa, whoa, What's what's
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  Speaker 5: going on here? Well?
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  Speaker 8: Does him posting that video give you guys a little pause?
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  Speaker 8: Because is it like he thinks he's ready to play,
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  Speaker 8: maybe the team doesn't, and he's posting that and being like, look,
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  Speaker 8: let's show the public.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm spatting all this way.
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  Speaker 5: I think, to me, it's for me. It's a positive thing,
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  Speaker 5: you know, unless it's all fake and he's not really
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  Speaker 5: squatting that.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I guess squats it wasn't really getting that.
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  Speaker 5: Look at any anything could be like, you know. But
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  Speaker 5: for another word, if you've got a need that's even
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  Speaker 5: bothering you a little bit, you don't put up four
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  Speaker 5: five hundred pounds squats. That's the worst thing you can do, right.
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  Speaker 7: But I mean to Paul's point, though, I just wonder,
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  Speaker 7: is the contract related to the injury and is this
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  Speaker 7: you know what I mean, it's all tied together. It
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  Speaker 7: was like once the contract is signed and they figured
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  Speaker 7: it all out, and you know, but I do think
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  Speaker 7: the greater point is that if he's squatting right now,
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  Speaker 7: hopefully things are in line.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to figure it out. That's how I fend,
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  Speaker 6: you know, just reading through.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: You know, ESPN did their their starting lineup projections for
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  Speaker 7: the thirty two teams and ranked the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: Did very well.
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  Speaker 6: They were what eighth, I think they're seven seven?
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  Speaker 5: Thank goodness, I got it right here. Uh they were seventh.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'll live and die by these all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden ranking, all of.
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  Speaker 6: A sudden your your anti list, that the Patriots do
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  Speaker 6: well in them, Yeah, because they're not defend their third
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  Speaker 6: best in the anti.
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  Speaker 5: List, so that when we don't do bad, I can
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  Speaker 5: dismiss it, but they do when we do bad.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to not talk about the other things that
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  Speaker 6: I saw on lists regarding the Patriots that I don't
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  Speaker 6: want Fred to yell at me, like fishing Gonzales and
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  Speaker 6: Traveon Henders very high.
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  Speaker 7: Very very high, but they do list the biggest weakness
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  Speaker 7: there as edge rusher, and they would be nice boost
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  Speaker 7: to get him in.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 7: I saw Greg Bodard wrote that that he's heard that Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: Are very high on Elijah Ponder.
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  Speaker 7: We'll see if that, you know, turns out to be
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  Speaker 7: true and if he's able to make a big second
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  Speaker 7: year leap.
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  Speaker 6: But that to me is, you know, when you look
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  Speaker 6: at this team with Super.
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  Speaker 7: Bowl aspirations, if gay Bachus is able to come in
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  Speaker 7: and you know it doesn't have to be the hero,
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  Speaker 7: but be part of the rotation, solidify that group, maybe
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  Speaker 7: take some heat off of you know, guys like Landry
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  Speaker 7: and Jones. It'd be a great you know, nice boost
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  Speaker 7: start off camp. You get atkus back, maybe you signed
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  Speaker 7: Gonzales and you're rolling.
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  Speaker 5: Yep. So that's July twenty fifth, first public practice for
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  Speaker 5: the new on the Patriots, and we will be live
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  Speaker 5: from the ramps above the practice field as we were
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  Speaker 5: last few years. So we'll open up the camp with
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  Speaker 5: a live Patriots unfiltered that day. So excited about that.
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  Speaker 5: Ready to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Other than that, not yet, but yeah, yeah, there's some
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  Speaker 7: more beach days in my life that I need to
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  Speaker 7: get in before I'm ready. But taken last week off,
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  Speaker 7: I felt like it was the first chance I kind
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  Speaker 7: of got to catch my breath post you know, just
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  Speaker 7: the craziness of the last season and how it fed
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  Speaker 7: right into the off season.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm not complaining to everyone's dru is complaining.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, it was great, but you need to clear always
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  Speaker 7: complained the decks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, clear the decks a little bit, you know, get
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  Speaker 5: your Yeah. So I was off last week as well.
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  Speaker 6: Evan. Either Evan and I had a terrific show, did you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you actually shown name. We have Peep and the deuce
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  Speaker 6: Salt Peppa is what we usually go with.
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  Speaker 5: You're both salty.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he is getting a little salty, I mean more
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  Speaker 6: ways than one the time.
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  Speaker 7: For Alex and Evan, I would say, because the Celtics
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  Speaker 7: are very much in the news and the World Cup.
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  Speaker 6: Is very much to the news. And for a World
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  Speaker 6: Cup Alex yesterday she lost portry goal in ten pm.
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  Speaker 3: Just heartbreak. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay. I'll get over there.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway. Okay, So any other Patriots stuff that you want
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  Speaker 5: to talk.
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  Speaker 7: I was really trying, Fred. I wanted to come in
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  Speaker 7: with something, but you know, this is the the dead.
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  Speaker 6: Day, so there's yeah, it's not really much the way,
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  Speaker 6: not way of news because Gonzales, to me, would be
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  Speaker 6: the news coming Occus and Gonzales. So we haven't heard
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  Speaker 6: anything about that. But there was some some interesting stuff that,
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  Speaker 6: you know that you were kind of downplaying. But every
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  Speaker 6: year ESPN ranks position groups in the NFL, and they
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  Speaker 6: get a whole bunch of scouts and personnel guys and whatever,
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  Speaker 6: and they came up with rankings and Gonzales was very
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  Speaker 6: high on the cornerback list at number three, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and I think he was six last year, so up
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  Speaker 6: to three this year. And in the running backs came
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  Speaker 6: out I think on January July sixth, and Travian Henderson
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  Speaker 6: actually showed up in the also receiving votes.
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  Speaker 5: Person was actually eighteenth higher than Stevenson.
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  Speaker 6: Stevenson wasn't on it. Wow, Stevenson wasn't on didn't show
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  Speaker 6: up at all.
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  Speaker 5: So I dismissed the list.
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  Speaker 6: They do a top ten and then they had honorable
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  Speaker 6: mentions and then they have others, you know, also receiving votes,
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  Speaker 6: and Henderson was among also receiving votes and he was
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  Speaker 6: eighteenth on that list. So, like Gonzales gets a whole
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  Speaker 6: rite up, so you get to see the reasoning and
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  Speaker 6: the rationale votes. You don't get that, you just they
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  Speaker 6: just listen names. So I don't know. My guess is
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  Speaker 6: something run fast And I don't mean this to be disrespectful,
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  Speaker 6: but my guess is one scout or GM or something
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  Speaker 6: is predicting him to have a huge year two leap
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  Speaker 6: and that's that was the vote he got. That would
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  Speaker 6: be my guess. And I don't think that that's off base.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's a potential there for him to have
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  Speaker 6: a big year two.
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  Speaker 7: Leader Tampa Bay game, right, But how something like that,
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  Speaker 7: Like how I guess I'm just trying to imagine how
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  Speaker 7: that would all come.
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  Speaker 6: Together in Josh McDaniel's offense that you know what we've seen,
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  Speaker 6: how he improved dramatically as a past protector and is
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  Speaker 6: on the field all the time on third down catching like.
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  Speaker 7: The James White and he's just a key passing kind
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  Speaker 7: of guy.
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  Speaker 6: Takes some heat off from it.
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  Speaker 5: You can have him on the field on those plays.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think that's what hurt his passing game
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  Speaker 6: production last year is that he struggled in past.
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  Speaker 5: Protect which was too bad because he came out of
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  Speaker 5: college with a reputation as a good pass protector. Right.
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  Speaker 5: The speed of this game is different.
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  Speaker 6: Especially, I think it's too. I think it's mental too.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was knowing what you know, where the
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  Speaker 6: pressures were coming from, and to be prepared that way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yep, so okay. So Lists and Gay Bacchus.
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  Speaker 7: And wickershim kind of put an interesting article out today.
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  Speaker 7: He was embedded with the Broncos and during the playoffs, so.
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  Speaker 6: And everything was along to him the whole every he said,
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  Speaker 6: everything was on the record the entirety of the week.
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  Speaker 6: It's really long. I'm not finished. Did you finish it?
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  Speaker 7: I was like kind of scanning it just for Patriots
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  Speaker 7: Nuggets first before I got to go back and actually
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  Speaker 7: actually read it.
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  Speaker 5: But I love that stuff when you see you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: It starts off just with their week of preparing for
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  Speaker 7: the Patriots, and you know, the scouts are telling them
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  Speaker 7: this is what they do, and you know some scouting
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  Speaker 7: report on on Drake May, and I mean really the
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  Speaker 7: bottom line for them was if Drake May has a
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  Speaker 7: good day running, you know, we're we're done.
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  Speaker 6: And you know you think of that.
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  Speaker 5: The play that sealed the game was was Drake May
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  Speaker 5: on a on a bootlegs. So I wouldn't call it
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  Speaker 5: a great day running, Yeah I would.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that the game unfolded exactly the
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  Speaker 6: way Sean Payton wanted it to unfold. And I think
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  Speaker 6: Sean Payton himself, yeah, cost cost the Broncos a chance
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  Speaker 6: to win it based on the way, like if you
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  Speaker 6: read all of the preparation, he knew they weren't going
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  Speaker 6: to be able to you know, if it I think
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  Speaker 6: they said, if it gets into a shoot, you know,
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  Speaker 6: if a game declares basically it's going to have to
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  Speaker 6: be a fourteen to ten game. It can't be a
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  Speaker 6: thirty five thirty four game or something like that, when
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  Speaker 6: he knew and he knew they were they were dead
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  Speaker 6: if it was a shootout, and they succeeded in making
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  Speaker 6: sure it wasn't a shootout, and I think he actually
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  Speaker 6: there was. It was kind of poignant because there was
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  Speaker 6: very specifics, you know, in the in the you know,
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  Speaker 6: thirteen to ten kind of game, punts and field goals
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  Speaker 6: are very important, whereas in a shoot those plays cost
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  Speaker 6: you the game. It was a turning point they put that,
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  Speaker 6: and then he cost them the game by passing up
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  Speaker 6: a field goal, right if you ask me, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think they could have taken a ten to nothing
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  Speaker 6: lead early in the game, and I think it really
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  Speaker 6: unfolds in a much different way. So, yeah, there was
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  Speaker 6: some interesting elements. One really really strange one.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if Belichick, yeah, go ahead, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: mean I read about that one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So he he obviously has a tight relationship with Belichick
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  Speaker 6: and Parcels. He comes from Parcells's tree. They were both
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  Speaker 6: on Parcells's staff together, Belichick and Peyton. So he had
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  Speaker 6: said that he toyed with the idea of going to
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  Speaker 6: Broncos ownership when Belichick got fired and offering to step
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  Speaker 6: down as head coach to let Belichick take over as
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  Speaker 6: the head coach until he won the fifteen games that
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  Speaker 6: he needs to break. Wow, well, at least two, right,
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  Speaker 6: I mean at least time in New England it would
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  Speaker 6: have been.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean at least two. So we're going to
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  Speaker 5: be a I mean coach at least for a year.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't know that they were going to have such
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  Speaker 5: a good season when he was toying with this idea,
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  Speaker 5: so it could have been three seasons. You know, Bill
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  Speaker 5: like cuts pnis. It's a good thing because it's a
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  Speaker 5: good So yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it was one of those things
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  Speaker 6: that like he kind of thought about, like how it
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  Speaker 6: would work, but I don't think it ever really got
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  Speaker 6: to a like a serious level. But he suggested that
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  Speaker 6: he would step down Belichick gets the wins, and when
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  Speaker 6: Belichick gets the wins, he retires and Peyton resumes.
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  Speaker 5: A bad look for Bill though, like he's at such
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  Speaker 5: a situation.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't think of it that way, but I like it.
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  Speaker 5: This other head coach has to like basically treat him
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  Speaker 5: like a charity. I like it. I like it, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, we're going to manufacture this record for him.
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  Speaker 7: I don't I don't know how it would have worked,
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  Speaker 7: especially where two very I mean, and you read the article.
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  Speaker 7: Sean Payton is in charge, and he's been a head
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  Speaker 7: coach for a long time.
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  Speaker 5: He knows what he wants.
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  Speaker 7: Those two personalities kind of together. I mean, is Sean
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  Speaker 7: Payton feeling like this is a great idea when you
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  Speaker 7: know Bill comes up playing he doesn't like, I don't
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  Speaker 7: know it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's a It is kind of a nutty plan.
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  Speaker 6: It's been and I think that's why it never really
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  Speaker 6: got off the ground.
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  Speaker 5: But the fact that he was I'm going to do
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  Speaker 5: this for Bill and help him get this record's kind
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  Speaker 5: of weird. I'm all for somebody breaking Don Shula's record
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  Speaker 5: because you know, you know how we feel in Patriot's
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  Speaker 5: Nation about Don Shula. But that seems really manufactured. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I fake. Would Bill have wanted to do that?
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  Speaker 6: Oh? I think you'd have done it in a blink,
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  Speaker 6: great takes over. Then he would have taken credit for
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  Speaker 6: it drafting for them too.
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  Speaker 5: Are you going to pay him like an NFL head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton as a retainer?
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  Speaker 8: So he just chilled John Payton just really wanted like
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  Speaker 8: a couple of like two three seasons of vacation.
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  Speaker 7: I think he just wanted to put it out in
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  Speaker 7: this article about how much he loves Bill and like.
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  Speaker 5: Thinking of your buddy. I was thinking of you.
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  Speaker 7: I was about to do anything for you to help
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  Speaker 7: you get there, but unfortunately we couldn't make it work.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, think about like strategically, hey, I can
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  Speaker 5: bring in Bill, he can be in charge of all
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  Speaker 5: this stuff while I just focus on the offense and
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: get that right with this new quarterback. And then when
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: everything's ready to go builds out, I'm in and we're
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: you know, perennial playoff contecht.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: I'm not leaving, Actually you're leaving. Imagine if Denver, like
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: you know, ends up having winning like three super Bowls
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: in the next like six years, Belichick is be taken
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: credit for those.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Two, right.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: If they're winning, and then just.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: Assuming that he did leave after he got the fifteen wins,
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: and then like you know, bo Nicks and Peyton end
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: up winning like say three or four super Bowls, Like
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: there's no telling how many wins Belichick would have taken
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: credit for.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: Changes all right, So so that's that's that came out.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: All right, that's about it. But that's a it's a
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: really long piece. If you're you're sort of into like
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: maybe some of the behind the scenes stuff, it's really interesting, Yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: just about how much detail goes into it.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Speaking of behind the scenes, it will be episode two
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: of Forge and Foxborough coming out soon. I can tell
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: you that it'll be coming out before training camp, so
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: that'll be episode two, so look forward to that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Can you tease what this one? Kind of well, I mean.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: It's everything episode one left off, like you know, I
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: think it left off at the draft, So everything that's
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: happened since then, off season Yeah, cool, yep, So you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: obviously A J. Brown coming to the team a lot.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: What has happened since then? Yeah, you know.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: I actually I saw a video yesterday of A J.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: Brown's reaction to when Saquon Barkley did like I know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: I'd always seen Saquon Barkley do the reverse jump over
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: the guy, but they showed a clip of like an
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: ISO cam on AJ Brown watching it happen, just like
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: putting his hands up, like shaking his head like it
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: was it was a good shot at him. But I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: so excited to see that guy.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: What was it more incredible play that or the Odell
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Beckham Beckham Beckham one Beckham.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that was great.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: I feel like Saquon was just kind of in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: blender and he's just like, I don't know when he
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: jumped up.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: You know, there's a million one handy catches, but you
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: could go back and look at where he caught that ball.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I don't think you see a lot of a lot
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: of catches like that. Yeah, Like it's one thing to
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: go up and catch the ball like it's like this,
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: you got one handed. The ball was behind him and
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: he caught like the like he basically caught the ball
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: with like three fingers.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: It's really I mean almost lying on his back in
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: the air.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: It was an amazing catch.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah. On the Giants. So maybe we'll see some more
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: of that stuff.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: And Barkway ended up getting other extra sport jumping back.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: The red Socks have rebounded. I'm proud of them. Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: So they're digging their way out.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, digging their way I think exactly.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: They're only eight games below five hundred.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: They are eight games below five hundred. Imagine being red
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: hot and being eight games below five They were fourteen. Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: I know, you know, a couple of weeks when they
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: so when they go back to that, they're not going
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: to That's how far out they.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Are eating out.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: What's been the formula for Fred? You've been even watching
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: all these games? What have they been doing opponents?
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: I think no, I think you know. Contreras is hot
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: as heck. Caleb Durbin finally found out how to hit.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: I think that's up to two twenty. No, but he
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: was at the time two times. It's huge what he's doing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: And he's hitting for power, which is really good. So
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: and the pitching is the pitching.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm very excited to play the Angels three times.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I'm excited. They're the bottom of the barrel line. We're backup,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Chicago White Sox coming up, and then the Mets, so
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: this makes them hey.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: So after the White Sox, then they'll have the chance
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: to make some hay against another terrible team in the Mets,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: and who knows, maybe they'll get to be six games
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: on your five hundred.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Red Sox supposed to be terrible too,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: but it seems like they're beating these teams, so that's good.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: The three teams that are worse than them they beat Listen.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: For a while, the Red Sox had the worst record
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: in baseball.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: No they didn't, Yes they did, but not worse than
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Colorado when they lost two out of three to them.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Listen, Red Sox, you keep doing what you're doing, don't
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: over here. You keep doing what you doing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: I would just say, I agree, Just keep doing what
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: you're doing. Maybe at some point the owner will either
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: sell or start spending money again. Just keep doing what
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: you're doing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: The definitely Also some other news, Alex and I were talking.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: The Fleet are moving to b U. They're gonna move
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: to Aghanis Arena here, the Fleet, the Boston Fleet, ore
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: p w h L team.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Uh I was talking about. I'm like, I go to
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: that weird move. Yeah, oh you know, like, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: I think it's way better going sell out. You though,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: he was going into Boston.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: And they sold out.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: They've sold that place out a couple of times twice,
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: and it's but it's a one off. It's just like
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the w n B A sold out. I'll take myself
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: as somebody who wasn't willing.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: To go to.
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: You know, takes taking the girls to the games in Boston.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Now because I agree with that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a tough place for
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: the Wellesley dad to get to.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Well so you kidding me. You jump on the sea line,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: you be lined.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: We parents don't jump on the sea lion. I'm just
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: telling you. I used to coach there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: They don't after they don't want to.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: But at least you get any But at least you
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: get for a Wellesley person, yes, but for the north
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Shore people that was convenient for them.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to one of their guess, yeah, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: got Arenas.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: I mean again As Arena is beautiful. It's way nicer
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: than but I'm a big fan of That's probably the
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: best thing about bu Is Againist Arena. Yeah, it's hard
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: for me to say the other one. That one dump
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: Walter Brown play there a lot.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: So okay, so the local news. But I guess you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: we do need to talk about a huge trade, Jalen
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Brown being the we need.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: To talk about.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: He needs to talk about it because he prophesied it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I ago the season started like last year, that by
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: the end of the season.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Or you know, the off season. You said by the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: end of the off season, by the.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: End of the off season, both Jays would not be
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: on the team. And I wasn't ruling out Jason Tatum
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: getting traded, but I said one of them would not
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: be on the team, and it just but I think
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: they screwed it up.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: What'd you think of what Stevens and the and Chisholm
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: had to say yesterday?
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: You know, I wasn't impressed with what Stevens said. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: think he was kind of flustered a little bit.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: And you don't like the optionality?
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just say flexibility or we have options? Why do
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: you have to make up a word? Anyway? However, I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: probably going to go against the grain here. I did
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: like what Chisholm said because I think Chisholm addressed it
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: directly and he basically challenged everybody to come back at
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: him someday because he said, we'll show you that it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: not about money. He said those words, We're going to
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: show you by what we do that it wasn't about
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: the money. So you know, you either have you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: really a lot of balls to say that if it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: not true.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Wows messy just stopped on a PK wow oh wow.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: But I think that, you know, he he put his
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: gloves down and said, we're going to show you that
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: it wasn't about the money.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: So he's taking some of the hardest heat right now
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: because now it's creating the whole. This is what happens
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: when you let private equity. It's sports, and he couldn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: afford the team to begin with, like we should have known.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: But so he's basically laid down the gauntlet or laid
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: down the whatever. And now he's he's on records saying
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: it wasn't about the money. So now we've got to
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: hold him to that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: What do you think with the time, Like I feel
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: like I have Obviously you guys know I'm not like
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: in deep like you guys are with this, but I
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: have enough of a knowledge and we talk a lot
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: about it with and you talk about like the Jaylen
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: Brown thing with this is my favorite year this year.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, this was his time to shine this year
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: with Tatum out, And do you think that that's what
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: brought all this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: To a head because you guys have talked about him
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: in the past being I can I could just give
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: you my view doesn't mean it's the right view. It's
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: kind of like when we talk about world Cup Soccer.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: I'm by no means an expert on all this stuff,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: but like I would just look at it and say,
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I understand when they say it wasn't about money, and
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: I think technically by the but the definitions of those
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: it really wasn't. But but it is in my view
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: because they don't feel like he is worth that money
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: and the league doesn't either.
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Like that's the biggest telling thing is that's what
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: I said about the trade. But it's like, doesn't it
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: say more to you about how the league views Jalen
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: as an asset.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: If he had a reasonable contract, I think teams would
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: be lining up to.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Teams jumping to sign.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: He didn't want to take on his contract.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: And he also because of ure, and I think people
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: just look at him as And I'm not a big
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: fan of the analytics and all that stuff that you
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: can throw out the wind. Like I didn't hear anybody
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: talking about that during the course of the season when
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: he was having a, you know, the best year of
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: his career and he was an All NBA player and
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: finished sixth the MVP voting. I didn't hear anybody say
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: that he's the sixth the seventh best player on an
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: NBA roster analytics wise, like, that's to me nothing but
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: sour grapes after the fact. But they didn't want to
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: give him that contract in the first place. They did
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: because they've kind of had to, and then they did,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: and they looked at it as saying, this is untenable.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: He's not worth that. In addition to you a point, Fred,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: he's not going to be why because I don't think
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: he's that good of a player. I don't think Tatum's
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: worth it either, to be honest with you, and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: think Tatum's better than him.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: But that's big.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: I think there's like two guys like I would give
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: one beyond of that contract, like I would give Jokic
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: that contract. I don't think there's that many guys that
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: are truly worth that. But in that league, it's tough
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: and I and I'm kind of hypocritical because I always say, well,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: you're worth what the market says you're worth, and there's
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of MAX contracts in the league.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: But I thought, once you get i don't know, you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: voted to the All NBA team, you're eligible for that
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: contract or something like that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Did Wasn't that how it worked? But bad was before
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: he he got the MAX contract.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Before that, Jalen Brown, Yeah, what'd you feel like? Steve
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Tatum the.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: One that I don't I don't think he I just
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Alex's gonna get mad at me. No, not, I just
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: I don't think those guys are I don't think those
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: guys are about winning the way some other guys.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not where Evan is with this trade.
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: Like I don't think I didn't love trading for Giannis
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: because I thought he's old, he's injury prone. Like I
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: kind of resent that we even got involved with that
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: in the first place, because maybe this fallout wouldn't have
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: been so bad, they wouldn't have felt like they had
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: to trade him. But like even before that was a rumor,
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: just the way Jalen has been moving in the off
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: season off the court, the things he'd been saying, Like
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: you read into that stuff, and I.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Think he purposely.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: He's very particular about how he phrases things, the moves
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: he makes everything reading in between the lines to me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: told me he wanted to get out of here and
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: be the star on a team, and he doesn't care
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: about winning more championships. With Tatum in Boston, and he
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: can say whatever he wants, like direct to camera. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: when his mentor his closest mentor is coming out on
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: podcast saying he wants to be the guy he feels
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: like he's not respected enough there this and that he
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: didn't really want to be here, that tells me that
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: something was going on off the field in private conversations
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: with Brad Steel. I think Brad Stevens, Jason Tatum, bil
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: Chisholm could have flown Jalen to Nantucket or whatever, or
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: gone to some steakhouse. They could have sat down, had
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: a dinner and they could have writed this after the
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: Yannis trade fell through.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Don't you think it's interesting though, that in Jalen Brown's
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: most recent Whatever it Is podcast basically took the blame
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: away from Brad Stevens. He said that Brad he doesn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: he doesn't think Brad really knew all of this, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, he didn't say it, but I
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: think he was putting a lot of this on the owner.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. I don't think I think that
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it's tough. That was your coach too.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: Before he was your general manager, he was your coach.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: I think they have a really great interpersonal relationship.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Don't you think that that's not that much. I don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: know that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think they know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: I think the other guy doesn't. I don't think they
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: pay him that money.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And frankly, like Chisholm is not as rich as
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: people think he is. Like he's obviously way richer than
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: we could ever imagine, but.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: In terms of owning an NBA team, like looking.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: At his portfolio on his hedge fund or whatever his
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: private equity company, like, I don't know, Like the guy
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: is not the sea, like the guy from the Citadel
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: down in Florida. You know, he's not he like bank
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: everything he is worth is tied up in the Celtics essentially.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: But how much is it the player that you don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: think he's worth the money versus the power of friendship?
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: And we feel like this guy is kind of pulling
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: in his own direction a little bit, and we need
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: to resell.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I think everything now it's said. I think this is
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: truth in everything Alex analyzed. I think it in it
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: all like hard does to say that's the reason why
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: they did this, it's all of these different things. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: agree with Alex. I don't think that Jaylen Brown wanted
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: to be there, but he's smart enough to not articulate that,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Like when he has these live twitch streams, he doesn't say,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: he doesn't go all the way to that. But I
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: do think I think he's probably upset right now, not
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: because he got traded, but because he got traded to
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: a place where he's not the man. Still he's still
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: that might as matter of fact, he may have gone
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: down wrong.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Not the guy.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: He might be three on the ladder now on you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: if Embiide is healthy and motivated, but he's certainly behind
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Maxi in that hierarchy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: But there's no doubt that the seventy six has got better.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah oh yeah, you trade Paul George for Jalen Brown.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: I mean at the very least, you're you got five years,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: six years younger.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: But it also makes me laugh because Brad Stevens was like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: you know, in our eyes, this wasn't a player for
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: player move. You know, in the seventy six's mine, it
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: was the seventy six's mind. They're like, we just got
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Jalen Brown for an old poor Paul George. Yeah right,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: they're thinking of it that way.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: And a lot of people felt like the Paul George
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: contract was the worst in the NBA.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Isn't it expiring soon?
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Though he's got two years, He's got a player ars
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: the second year, But like, if you're Paul Georgie, you're
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna I fear that I picked that up.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: He's not going to get that in his next contract.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: But he's still a good player.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: He's his game is beautiful to me. Like, I know
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: he's old and I know, but I think people are
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: forgetting how good he is. And they're just heard about
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: Jalen obviously, But I don't know. I I don't know
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: how they get out of that mess that they were in.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: But I just some Celtics fans are acting like the
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: world's burning down and just like.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Waited out see what happened.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I Brad Stevens probably more than I think anyone in
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: this town.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: I think he's a smart guy.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: But I do think it's a bad I like Paul
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: George five years ago. Yeah, like everything you said.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: About poultry, and if they didn't, if they wanted they
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: had Celtic, they should have either made that trade or
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: never even put their hat in the rink and said,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: we want nothing to do with this.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I think Brad is a smart guy, but I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: he was in a corner and I think he had
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: to do this move, that this was the best offer
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: they had and they had to make the.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Trade value.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: It was what it was.
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: I just try to gaslate ourselves into thinking, yeah, that's fair.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm a little surprised that
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: I thought you thought you'd be mad at me for
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: being disrespectful to Jalen Brown.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Brown. I think he's a terrific player guy.
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: I think he puts so much work into his game
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: to get it to where he was because he was
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: so so raw and athletic when he came into the league.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: That the player he turned into I can't even believe it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like for.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: As smart as he is an intelligence the basketball, I
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: Q sometimes I was just like, what are you doing?
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: And then you know, and one of the criticism, one
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: of the criticisms, and.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: Everyone's saying he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room,
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: and I think that I don't know if that's fair,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: but with everything that comes out watching the way he moves,
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: he went to cow like maybe if there's smoke, there's
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: fire with.
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: That, you know.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: So and to that point, like a lot of people
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: like talking about the off off court stuff, like he's
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: too active in the community, he's too outspoken.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm doing all that stuff. Those things
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: don't have anything to do with planning an event.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: So such love to the fact that he was active
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: in Boston. He did so much in the community, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: so did a lot of people in Boston.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Myself posted a tribute to him.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: But it's what you just said, Like sometimes you watched
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: him play and you'd be like, what are we doing?
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: They did too, And the whole smartest guy, the smartest
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: guy in the room thing wasn't. Oh he's a really
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: bright guy. He's really socially aware and he's that's not
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: the stuff that people criticized. They criticized because they would
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: have a game plan in a game that he didn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: agree with, and he wouldn't execute it. He would do
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: his own thing. And that's what Alex is talking.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: About in the moment. He doesn't show good basketball IQ.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Because he thinks that he has the better way to
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm talking about bad passing and things like that
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: because he.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Doesn't want to take a pointer. And I'm not saying
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: he's wrong, but at some point, when you're the player,
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: the coach is the coach. I don't think a whole
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: lot of Joe Missoula's exits and knows either. I don't
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: think it takes much exits and no, you just say
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: we're going to try to create two on ones and
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: get an open three and fifty five times a game.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: I don't think that takes anything to do that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Dribbling off your knee. He just he has flaws in
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: his game.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: He does he does, and we loved him and we
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: looked past he was our guy.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: But for a while there was a time where I
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: said he might be the better of the two. Early
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: I thought, but now when.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: That year he just had improved, He was improving so
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: so much throughout that off season and over the course
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: of the season, I was like, Damn, does he care
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: more than Jason?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe shoo.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I think there's an argument for that. There's an argument
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: that we made that he.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Does care more, far more talented, far more talented.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: All Right, So I'm upset. I thought I was just
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: gonna yell at men, I agree with everything else to say.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: So that was that was big news locally. This game
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: last night, somebody compared it to the Patriots Super Bowl
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: against the Seahawks this year, and it was kind of
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: a close similarity. I thought, Huh, I weigh it unfolded,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: like you come in with high hopes and all of that,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: and you just weren't ready for the opponent that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: You guys watched. I mean I watched it, but you
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: guys have watched more. I mean, were they not ready
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: or were they just.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: The I really thought that there were. To me, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: saw signs of explosiveness from the US team, like there
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: were chances that they just couldn't finish, and I thought
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: they were the more explosive team, but they were also
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: the team that made more mistakes, and at that level,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: you can't make mistakes. And it was almost like, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: the Belgium team was the Patriots of old, where we're
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: not going to beat ourselves, We're gonna wait for you
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: to beat you. And that's what happened. And every time,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: not every time, but when the US made some of
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: their mistakes, Belgium was right there to take advantage of it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: And that was.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: There Belgium.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: I mean even when the US scored and had a
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: sign of life and then it was like what instantly
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: he came back.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Those days and that goal where they tied it back up.
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: I know, everyone's like on the goalie for when he
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: came out of the box and kind of whiffed on
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: what footing it out of there, and that sucks, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: like that's terrible. Like I still think he did the
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: right thing coming out. He just needed to make the
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: goal he let up right before that, the tying or
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: the was it the going for Belgium, the wing the header.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: It got crossed from the very very corner, and the
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: goalie stayed on his line at his near posts from
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: where the cross was coming from, and the ball at
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: eye level was crossed right directly in front of his face,
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: and instead of coming out and blocking that angle and
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: punching it out, pulling it down, making a play on
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: the ball, he watched it go right across his face
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: and he stayed on his line. He didn't make any
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: play on it, and he watched the guy headed in
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: because he was flat footed, and he didn't come out
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: and try to block an angle once And I had
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: just gone from watching Spain and Portugal, where like Diego
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: Costa is standing on his head, so to speak. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: Douce understands this reference. You have to come out as
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: a goaltender, you have to block angles, you have to
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: punch stuff out of there, you know what I mean.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And I just was like, Matt Turner must be like
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: wanting to die on that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: I would say, I would defer to you, Freddie, You've
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: watched millions of more soccer games than I do. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: didn't see what you saw about the explosiveness. I thought
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: that the US and no first time basically in the
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: first the entire firsts was Belgium. They kept having the
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: goalie just kick it three quarters at lanth of the field,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: and the Belgian strikers or whatever you call the attackers
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: were taking the ball away from the defenders, especially that
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: which he's the captain all due respect, I mean obviously
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: had a great career. He's thirty eight years old. He
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: was terrible in that game. He's the one that got
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: out muscled on the header that you were talking about. Alex.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: I think he was partially involved in the misplay with
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: the goalie and the third goal that to me ultimately
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: ended it, but I thought Belgium easily could have had four.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: The goalie made a tremendous save in like the first
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: two minutes of the game. Yeah, Belgium had a lot
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: or really good chances to score in the first half
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: and the second half. Yeah, and the one goal that
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: they got was I mean, it was a tremendous like deflection.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: It went off of like belgium guy's head and completely
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: changed directions. That's why they scored. That was the only
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: chance they had the whole game. And then the first
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: ten minutes or so of the second half, I thought
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: us looked like they figured it out. They started to
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: move it around, they had possession, looked like Belgium was
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: on the heels a little bit, and then that play
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: happened and that was game. It was like Belgium just
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: said three to one, there's no way they get in too.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: We're just going to keep.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Everything in the perimeter. I thought they defended really, really well.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: They did a couple of times that they tried something
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: like no looks and you know, like the no touch
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: ball again, tried a couple of times and they were
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: just on it. They just kept taking the ball away
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: and what did you say that the stat was, but Polisic.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Eleven times he had the ball taken away.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: From because you would watch him.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: He would just dribble into two guys and try to
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: have this slick footwork. But like your footworks, it's not
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: going to happen. And you gotta saw and listen, you
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: got a pass to feet.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: They're just.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Blistic is a little Polistic is a little guy. And
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: as much as we like to make fun of soccer
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: players for flopping and all that, because they do, they're
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: beating the crap out of each other. They are they
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: really hard.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Do you ever watch these replays and see how many
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: times a guy goes down and holds his knee that
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: he doesn't get touched because.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: They're just showing that play. But I'm talking about all
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: the stuff that doesn't even get called that the ref
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: lets go. They're beating the crap out of each other,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: and Polistic just gets the ball taken away from them.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm with Alex. I think he tries to
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: do too much with that's much.
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: If they just made quick pass like they're passing in
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: their first touch is just what totally held them down
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: because they'd get across and they'd try to settle it,
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: but it gets too far away from them, and Belgium's
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: on it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: They were just pressing them the whole game, as are all.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: I know, I can get locked on this game. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: mean this, he just made some.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Upset.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: I would say, like, did you see a couple of
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: those times too in the first half? Like just the
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: skill and now I'm starting to understand to understand what
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: they're talking about. They would they would run these these
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: long like I said, the goalie would just do the
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: clear and then you know, sometimes they would win it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Sometimes they wouldn't. But when they did actually win it,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: they'd have it on one side and they would do
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: that that long cross. That number ten guy for Belgium,
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: like it was like he had bell crow on his
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: on his cleats.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Why you get what I'm saying now, No.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: It was unbelievable how much more talented Belgium was than
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: the US. I was just blown away by how much
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: better they were.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Handle it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: But I find interesting id so, so here's a good
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: example of exactly what you're talking, Paul. There was a
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: game a few days ago. It was Argentina and Messi
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: was on a run long pass to him he takes
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: it down on his toe on the run and scores.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: We had that exact mess saying and explained how hard
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: that is, and he didn't do it, and.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: We couldn't do it. It was the exact same way position.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: All he had to do was what MESSI did all
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: he had to do.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: But we don't have we the US. There's there's not
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: yeah America in the game. Yeah, And I think that
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: That might take like years to get of training. But
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: it's just the passes too, Like that was the biggest issue.
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: It was the finesse and the ball skills and the
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: ability to just trap a ball and have it just
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: be at your feet and stop all of its momentum
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: and make a quick pass.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: And they're making these passes but they're not to foot.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: We don't call you trap them touches.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Touches. Well, no, you're trapping it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: You are trapped. But they don't use that. I hear
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: you know that was a great touch. They never say
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: trap anymore.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: We don't have the great touch.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Played I played.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: I played individual sports socker longer than I played football.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: That's another like back in the day, like defense was
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: a full back in America, they don't call them full
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: backs and they call them like sweepers.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Well, the sweeper is a full back that's in the center.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: You're yeah, you got sweeper vised. My sister is a sweeper.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: My cousin was a sweep.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: It's always like the boss right in the back.
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: You're kind of like the point guard, but your own
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: like it's very defensive minded and you don't shut the
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: whole up.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: So that's probably why I was.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: It's interesting hearing you talked tools, because we talked, you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: a lot over the last month about like why is
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: the US behind? And it's interesting like you're pointing out
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: the flaws of like because you're pointing out sometimes where
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: it feels almost like coaching and just you know, being
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: on the same page, whereas other times you're saying like
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: skill stuff. And I think that's what like Paul and
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: I talking about this morning, that the most skilled athletes
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: you know were participating, they would be better.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: So is it you know what I mean? Is it
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: seems like it's both.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: I had that rant a couple of weeks ago. I'll
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: go to my grave thinking that that's the biggest difference
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I think. But it seems like It's what I was
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: really struck by, alex Is watching the game last night,
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: because I watched the US games for the most part,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: and I saw the difference last night between So this
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: was just entering the World Cup, the US was seventeenth
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: and the FIFA World Cup rankings or whatever you know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: and all of the teams they had played, the four
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: opponents they had played, I think the highest one was
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: like twenty two or twenty three, yeah, and that was
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: Turkey who they lost to, and all the rest of
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: them were like in the And I saw the difference
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: between the top ten team and a seventeen team last
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: night because I didn't realize Belgium was that good. But
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: there was no comparison with the skill level, just the act.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: The actual ability is skill, the creativity to the two
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: guys they brought in in the you guys Lucacko's allegend,
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: I don't let me tell you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know these.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: The dominant game.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I knew they were going to it. I got a
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: bad case of a conco by the end of the game.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I just I knew where it was headed. The US,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: like you could see it kind of giving up.
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: I was like, hell yeah, Lukaku, I'm glad to see
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: you come in and get another goal.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I could believe there was a guy who got injured.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: He left the game, and he actually was injured.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: He didn't return with DonJoy on his knee.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: We talk about the coaching, but you don't get that
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: skill unless you have a ball at your foot every
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: day and the life.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I told you guys about the pick up as a ball,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: because it's all time.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: The ball handling skills and the creativity you get from
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: playing pick up with your friends with no rules, where
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: you're messing around and it's unstructured, is so pivotal. And honestly,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: my whole Twitter feed yesterday was half of half my
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: Twitter feed was brazil fans talking about the downfall of
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: Brazilian soccer is because the kids aren't playing in the
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: favelas anymore.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how much truth there.
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Is to that could be the hood Yeah, okay, it's Brazilian,
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: but it sounds a lot like basketball cardboard. But that's
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: that's to me in this country, that's basketball. Those are
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: you know, kids who all you need is a hoop
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: and a ball and they get together and you know
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: what I mean, that's it happens again after after.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: It's just like the Jalen Brown thing. There's probably six, seven,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: eight different things, and everybody tries to simplify it into one.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: My one is is that I just don't think you're
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: getting the best of the best to play.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: But you could put the best athletes out there and
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: they won't be as good because to pick a ball
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: out of the air and head it toward the goal.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I don't care how good an athlete unless you've done
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: unless you've practiced that ten thousand.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Times, but you would do it ten thousand times. Everybody knows.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: That's my point.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: If you just took those guys and you said from
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: the day you're born, his his, all the three year
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: olds in the world, I mean in the US, oh sure,
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: and you will have you can if all of the
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: best ones say I'm going to play soccer because I
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: can do X, Y and Z playing soccer, then they
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: would go up with all of the stuff that Alex
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: is talking about in all of these games and all
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: of these programs, and you would and they would get
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: this technical ability that they that No, I'm not suggesting
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: that Lebron James today could go out in the soccer
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: field because he's one of the best athletes who's ever
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: walk the planet and be able to play with the
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: World Cup. No, you wouldn't. He never you know.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: But if Lebron James since age of two had a
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: ball on his feet and yeah, maybe he wasn't quite
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: I think it's probably hard here six to seven.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: No, but that's what I'm talking about, is Stefan Diggs
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: doing it at age two as opposed to well, geez,
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: just because he's a good wide receiver with great footwork
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: doesn't make my soccer players.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: No soccer practice. You're not just working privately with your
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: trainer like you were in the backyard with your brother.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: Think I played Division one college baseball.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Catch it your dad, dad playing youth soccer in manalap
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: in New Jersey, and our coach saying, those kids in Neptune,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: New Jersey, they go to the store with a ball
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: at their feet. You have to have a ball at
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: your feet all day. I remember them telling us that,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: And I guess Neptune, New Jersey at the time was
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: like the standard for youth soccer in New Jersey.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I believe it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: It is interesting though, because I grew up in a town.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: We always had a Memorial Day tournament in my in
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: town of Holliston. It was just like I would meet
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: random people like, oh, I played a Memorial Day. Like
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: soccer has always been around, like it's been a big deal.
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: Like my sisters both played. They were really good in
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: high school. But you know, it's just how do you
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: get to that next level because it's not like it's absent.
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: From the That's my point in a nutshell, It's like.
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: The elite guy women the best players, A lot of
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: the best players come from Massachusetts exact.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: But the elite guy can play in a memorial tournament
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: when he's eight, and now if he's like an elite athlete,
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: now I have I can play in the NFL, the NBA,
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: or I can go to Europe and you know, like
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: age whatever. Like I heard the stuff about Harry Kane
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: today was like he was signed by Arsenal at six
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: and then they released him at nine, you know, developing,
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: you know, and like all of this stuff. You know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: I just think it's a hard sell for that guy
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: to say I can play in the NBA or I
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: can play in you know, Premier League soccer, and maybe.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: That guy does want to go to the European club.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: What's his mom saying, ten year old? What about to
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: go play with Sporting or Arsenal or they like, they.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Do do that in this country. In basketball they're in
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: all these AAU tournament, hockey, they leave their areas and
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: they go and play juniors and you know, like fourteen
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: years old, and it costs just the same amount of money.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: It's an expensive endeavor if you want to do this,
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: if you want to play in these travel programs. In
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: all the sports, they say, like I saw someone today
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: was complaining, like until they break the youth sports system
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: in the US. The youth sports system is broken. It
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: has a problem the pay to play and all that stuff.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: But it's the same in all the sports. It's not
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: a soccer problem, like it costs five thousand dollars to
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: play in this elite soccer program. It costs five thousand
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: dollars to do it in hockey too.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: I was just thinking about it though, from the other
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: perspective of if I'm the NFL and I'm trying to
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: get those European kids who grew up with a soccer
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: ball on their feet into football, you know, how do
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: you reverse it as an NFL wants to expand the
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: international pathway, you know, playing games over there.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: You know, it seems like they're trying to do it
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: the other way.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: If you have a choice and you're growing up in
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: Italy or in Germany or in Spain, what are you doing.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: You're playing soccer because that's your passion. That's the passion
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: in Europe, right.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: It's like it's like Keida for the Celtics, grew wanting
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: to be a soccer player, worshiping the soccer players because
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: that's how it is in Portugal.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: But then he obviously did not fit the frame.
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: So he's like, I guess I'll play basketball and look
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: at him now, you know, it's like, that's not the mentality.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: And by doing that, that's the only way you can
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: take like a fifty yard pass and trap it with
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: your toe. O.
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: The way they do it, and what you're talking about
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: too is the exact that's the exact example I used
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: yesterday explaining it to someone was the Belgian keeper just
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: booted a punt and it was coming down but from
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: really really high up, and the Belgian defender just lifted
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: his knee up and caught it and brought it down
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: and the ball was stopped.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: There was your guy. That was your guy that did that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: Ten.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: No, the guy who came in in the second half
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: or ten probably did it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: Too because he was he was what I'm talking about.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: I don't think was Lukaku, but it was someone else
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: and he did him too. He brought the ball down
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: from coming straight up in the air and it just stopped.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: And it was at his I know exactly the player
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: talking about it unreal.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: And if that was someone in the US, it would
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: have bounced, you know Newton's laws of physics. It would
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: have gone right back up with the exact force that
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: came down with and they wouldn't have been able to
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: settle it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: I remember playing soccer and you have that great trap
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: that just stopped. But those are like few and far between.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: In the first half, exactly the way Alex just described
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: that was what I thought. The whole first half was
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: Belgium controlled the ball. The ball bounced off of the US, yeah, like,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: and they couldn't quite put two passes together because the
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: ball would get away from them. And even the color analyst,
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: who I thought was excellent in the game last night,
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: the play by play guy was just openly rooting for
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: the US. It kind of bothered me, but the color guy.
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: Every time that the play by play guy would be
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: complaining about a foul, the color guy would explain why
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: it wasn't a foul.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like polic injury. He kicked the guy's foot, can
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: I do? It's not a rant, but it's kind of
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: an observation. And I know the Sokker people are going
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: to jump all over me. Now, listen, I soccer, I
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: I understand, I understand the game about I mean, I'm
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: not talking about the game right now. I'm talking about
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: the game as from the perspective of a broadcast and
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: the perspective of viewing it. I watched in this World
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Cup a lot of the pregame shows and a lot
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: of the postgame shows, and there's very little to analyze
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: with soccer. It's a very it's a beautiful sport when
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: it's played at this level, I'll give you that, but
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: it's a very simple sport and when it comes to
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: like x's and o's, there's not a lot to say.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: So when you see these panels before the game, you know,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: Schmichael and Lawless and all the others and even the
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: postgame shows. The analysis they give you is, oh, this
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: team needs to create more chances, this team needs to
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: press this. It's very general. There's there's not a lot
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: of you know, deep analytical stuff to talk about in
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: these pre and postgame shows, and I thought that was interesting.
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: I feel that way about hockey too, Like I mean,
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: we I do football. I love talking about football.
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: There's so much that goes into playbook and strategy, even
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: with you know, talking about the Celtics and their philosophy
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: of how they play.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: But I think hockey and soccer are similar in that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: Way where it's a fluid sport and there's not really
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: it's unsifted momentum, a.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Lot of creativity. That's what I loved about, you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: playing hockey.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Everyone gets to touch the puck, everybody you know gets
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: to participate, but it's not a lot in the ways
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: of breaking down plays and you know that kind of stuff.
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: Certainly, there are moments for all of that in this
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: but I agree with you.
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: It's I mean, I think that's what's kind of fun
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: to me about playing those sports is it's not so
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: rigid do this do that?
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: You know that kind of thing.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, certainly you know, everyone has a position and
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: everyone has a role. I'm not saying that, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: you're just running around haphazardly. There is that, But once
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: the game is in action, yeah, you know, you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: if the ball's here, I should be here. If this
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: guy's here, I'm supposed to be manning up with him. Okay,
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: but it doesn't get a lot deeper. There's like terrible
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: play calls coach doing.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: It would largely agree, but I do think and I
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: was just watching again, you know, it goes ignorant Paul.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: He watches a couple of World Cup matches. I'm not
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: trying it, but like I was watching Alex's game the
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Spain Portugal one, and I thought they made a really
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: good point. Whoever the I don't know if it was
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: Landon Donovan was in the Ronaldo point that he was
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: making in Dark Yes, yes it was. It was that group,
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: and they were talking about how Spain was cheating up
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: because at forty one they no longer feared Ronaldo's ability
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: to get into the open grass and outrun them. They
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: were confident that they could cheat a little bit, knowing
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: they could recover right, and it was changing the way
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: the game was being played like I found you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: again that might be the most sort of rudimentary, like
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: for some somebody who watches all these games all the time.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: I was said, well, no kidding, Paul, you eat like
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: to me, I found it really interesting, like you could
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: see it as they would as the guy was talking
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: about it. You could actually see the impact of the.
• 54:00
  Speaker 8: Have all those numbers, and Spain was playing with a
• 54:03
  Speaker 8: heavy back set, so it's like it really condenses a
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: field for your midfielders and strikers and forwards, so it's
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: harder to moving.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: You can understand like the dilemmas that some of the
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: like the the managers would have, because how do you
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: sit Ronaldo? Yeah right, you know, But at the same
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: time you might look at it and say, was he
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: the best choice in the game they won.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Before this last one?
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: They sat him, they pulled him out, They pulled him
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: in a tie game, they scored after it, pulled.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: Him in a tie game. I was watching that game too, right.
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: And you know, if it went into I just that
• 54:39
  Speaker 8: game was screaming shootouts to me, and I thought that
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: they would pull him eventually, but they needed those guys
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: off the bench, like if they have to play a
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: whole half hour. They might not be used to that,
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: so it was feeling like it was headed towards extra time.
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: So I think that's when Ronaldo would have come out
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: at the end of regulation. But then Spain scores with
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: in the ninety whatever it was, You know, would you
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: think of terrible penalty? He's he was great. The Portuguese
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: back that was on him. New No Men's is one
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: of my favorite players on Portugal. I think he did
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: an amazing job on him all game and then he
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: got hurt and.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks appreciate you on guys.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, we asked this of everybody, so I think people
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  Speaker 14: who are football fans, Patriot fans know, is Brian gonna play?
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  Speaker 5: Is Brian not gonna play? What's what's going on with
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Brian Hoyry these days? Man? I don't know.
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  Speaker 15: I think it would take a great opportunity to come
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  Speaker 15: along for me to do that. Obviously, I was in
• 58:42
  Speaker 15: Las Vegas last year. I know I can still play
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  Speaker 15: because I beat the Patriots last year. One of the
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: most touche, one of the most It's on my list,
• 58:48
  Speaker 15: Brian the titter sweet moments of my career. So we'll
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  Speaker 15: talk about that later. But you know, so I know
• 58:53
  Speaker 15: I can still physically do it. But at thirty eight
• 58:56
  Speaker 15: years old, my kids are getting older. You know, I
• 58:58
  Speaker 15: think it would take a really great opportunity for me,
• 59:01
  Speaker 15: you know, to come along, for me to to kind
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  Speaker 15: of look and see.
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  Speaker 2: But so I know I can still do it.
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  Speaker 15: Body feels relatively healthy and.
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  Speaker 6: You know, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's always open.
• 59:12
  Speaker 15: People always say, you know, you if someone's offering you
• 59:16
  Speaker 15: an opportunity to play and you feel like you could
• 59:17
  Speaker 15: do it, you know, you know, I remember a former
• 59:20
  Speaker 15: teammate saying, play till they tell you you can't. So
• 59:23
  Speaker 15: definitely capable of it. It's just got to be I think,
• 59:25
  Speaker 15: the right opportunity at this point.
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  Speaker 14: You know, idiots like us sit there and oh, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: you can play, or it's time to go, and everything
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  Speaker 14: like that. But I don't think the lay people realize
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  Speaker 14: what's it like to make that decision as a family.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, when you have a.
• 59:39
  Speaker 14: Wife who's supported you cross country trips, taking kids back
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  Speaker 14: and forth, at some point in time, her decision or
• 59:48
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• 59:52
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  Speaker 14: a family standpoint like at what point time do I
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  Speaker 14: need to devote my time to them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And that's a huge part of the decision making.
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  Speaker 15: So that's why I said, like, it have to be
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  Speaker 15: the right opportunity and all those things, because you know,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 15: deciding to go to play in Las Vegas last year,
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  Speaker 15: it was not an easy choice. It was an easy
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  Speaker 15: choice because it was Josh in my relationship with him,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 15: but it wasn't an easy choice in the regards of
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  Speaker 15: what does this mean.
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  Speaker 2: For my family?
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  Speaker 15: And thankfully we had a great school here that allowed
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  Speaker 15: our kids to kind of virtual school.
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  Speaker 2: With the help of a tutor out there. But it
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  Speaker 2: was rough.
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  Speaker 15: It was it was a rough transition and they were
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 15: all happy to come back once the season was over.
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  Speaker 15: And so now my son, he's going into seventh grade.
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  Speaker 15: He got accepted as Avarian brother. So you know, those
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: are all things that you have to take into account,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 15: Like I want to watch him play football at of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 15: course he's watched me play for a long time, so
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 15: maybe it's times you.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: Know, for a role reverse when you have when you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: came out of Michigan State, I mean, you didn't get
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: drafted and I don't know what your expectations were heading in,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: but to then have what a fifteen year career off
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: of that, What were your expectations sort of when you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: arrived here in two thousand and nine?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 15: What you I was just talking about this with my
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  Speaker 15: son the other day, and I said, listen, when I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 15: didn't get drafted, you know, I kind of thought, Okay,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 15: the Patriots are going to sign me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll learn from Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 15: Obviously I grew up I watched Bill coach in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 15: so I always kind of had an affinity to him,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 15: and obviously him being a great coach, I thought it
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 15: was a great opportunity to go learn. And I thought,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 15: you know, maybe i'll make the practice squad if I
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  Speaker 15: get released. At least I'll learn from these guys. And
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 15: then sure enough, I kind of worked my way up
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 15: the ranks, ended up being Tom's backup my rookie year.
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  Speaker 15: And you know, the things that I learned in those
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 15: first four years were so invaluable to me that when
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 15: I finally got some opportunities to play, you know, you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 15: put those in motion and then you just keep stack
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 15: in ears, stack in years, and and you know the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 15: thing about the quarterback position is if you're relatively competent,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 15: and you're a good guy, and you make some connections,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 15: you know, you just extend your career, extend your career.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 15: That's I mean when I look at last year, if
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 15: if Josh isn't the head coach in Las Vegas last year,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 15: then you know, maybe my my, my career ends there.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, luckily for me, I've.
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  Speaker 15: Met a lot of great coaches, played with a lot
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 15: of great players, and made a lot of great connections
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  Speaker 15: which allowed me to do that.
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  Speaker 14: That's a little bit unorthodox. Brian as a rookie, now
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 14: you're backing up Brady, who's, by the way, is coming
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 14: off a knee surgery at that point, Tom, and you're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 14: the only backup quarterback your rookie year. That was the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 14: same way in twenty ten you're the only backup court. Like,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 14: not a lot of teams did that.
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  Speaker 5: How did that?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: What was your thought process in that?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 14: Like you want to talk about literally next man up
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 14: in your one pitch away, Yeah, you're one pitch away
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  Speaker 14: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was too naive to even understand that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: at that point.
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  Speaker 15: You know, now looking back, when you realize like Tom's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 15: coming off of major knee reconstruction had, you know, some
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 15: hiccups along the way. Man, if I had had to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 15: play that year, I don't know how ready I would
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 15: have been. Obviously, Bill believed in me, and Bill O'Brien
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 15: believed to me, and and so I'm sure it would have,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 15: you know, worked itself out. We had a really good team,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 15: so I think I would have relied on those guys
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 15: around me. But you know, at that point, you're just
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  Speaker 15: I was just thrilled to be an NFL football player,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 15: and now I'm going to a meeting room every day
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 15: with Tom Brady and soaking up what I can I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 15: can learn from him. And then you know, that went
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 15: for four years and then until I got released in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 15: twenty twelve. So I mean those years, like you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 15: those are kind of like, you know, the years you're
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 15: building your foundation of your career, and I couldn't have
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 15: done it in a better place.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: So I wanted to ask you a little bit about
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: that rookie season. You were part of some really good teams,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: and you know, ultimately you were part of a champion
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: in eighteen, but you know, you had that great year
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: in twenty ten, twenty eleven, you go to the Super Bowl,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: in two thousand and nine. You probably didn't recognize it
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: at the time, it's your rookie year, but do you
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: kind of look back and say, there was a little
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: bit of something amiss in two thousand and nine. That's
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: sort of the way it's kind of viewed here. That
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: was kind of a reset year.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 15: And we're very spoiled because we've been brought up a lot,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 15: Like when I didn't know any better, tennis six, going
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: to the playoffs and all that stuff is not.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: I thought it was great.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm an a great But did.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: You see did you sense any like sort of dysfunction
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: at the time, or you know, maybe looking back at it,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: do you feel like that wasn't the same as some
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: of the better teams that you were on.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 15: Definitely wasn't the same. I think looking back now, knowing
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 15: what I know and being on some great teams, it wasn't.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 15: There was definitely some learning curve, there was some adjusting
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 15: to new I mean, that was Bill O'Brien's first year
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 15: as a coordinator here, you know, so now I know
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 15: how important that is, you know, being a quarterback when
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 15: you're learning, even if you're keeping somewhat of the system intact,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 15: you're working with someone new, and that was you know,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 15: so those were kind of I guess you call growing pains.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: But I thought, like, man, we're going to the playoffs,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 15: like we're this is I'm on the Patriots. This is
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: like a super Bowl organization. Like, Okay, one year, you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 15: we didn't win the super Bowl and I'm like, oh,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 15: we'll win it next year. I mean, I think that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 15: that's kind of the expectation you have when you come
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 15: into that organization. And I've always said this, I've always
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 15: looked at it. When Tom Brady was the quarterback. I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 15: never went into a game thinking we're not going to win.
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  Speaker 2: And now great moments in bakery are not history.
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  Speaker 5: He says that. Are any of you playing Worldal yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I played. Do you play erright now? Why not?
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  Speaker 6: He gets so upset.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: But well, the way you answered it, No, that's not
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: isn't that how we just said it?
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  Speaker 6: It is how he said it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, you were very nocessarily not how I said
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  Speaker 5: it in my head.
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  Speaker 6: I never tell you how I read it. I read
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: it that.
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  Speaker 5: I have no time for that.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, he has plenty of time for it.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: He plays a bunch of other games like that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, everybody else is doing that one right, all right,
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  Speaker 5: So you don't like why I read it? You don't
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  Speaker 5: like word O Eric, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I've never done it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: So then why are you so dismissive?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: I'm not so dismissive.
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  Speaker 5: You know, why do you think they chose five letter words?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: That's the most common number of the English language.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, but it's that would be.
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  Speaker 7: It's always maddening when they use a letter twice, which
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like that. I think they did. They did
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: that today, they did well.
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  Speaker 6: If you pick a letter, I want to explain all
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: the rules.
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  Speaker 5: If you're interested, go find out, like for instance, like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: if it was you were so dismissive, I wasn't. Now
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: you want to know about you're a.
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  Speaker 6: Little bit dismissive.
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  Speaker 5: Just a little bit, just a little bit. That's another
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  Speaker 5: great mom All right back here and patriotsun Filter today.
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 5: They during that break, they're just talking about word. I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: did the math and I I forget, but word's going
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  Speaker 5: to run out of numbers, I mean words, that's at
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: some point because there's only so many five letter number
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: five letter words, and I'm assuming they're never going to
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  Speaker 5: use the same word twice.
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  Speaker 6: They could start. But if they do run out of words,
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  Speaker 6: why wouldn't they Just you don't know what it's going
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: to be.
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  Speaker 5: So there is some fanatic in the world who's keeping
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: track of the words that have been Do you.
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  Speaker 8: Think they run out of words before their user base
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: just like, yeah, diminishes?
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  Speaker 5: No I do.
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  Speaker 6: How many times have you do? You still play wordle?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Every day?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I usually do too. How many times it's been
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  Speaker 6: a word that you never heard of?
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  Speaker 5: Once?
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  Speaker 6: Maybe I just have no vocabulary. I would it's a
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: a good Once a month there's a word that was like,
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  Speaker 6: I have no idea what that even means. Huh, I
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  Speaker 6: haven't done it.
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  Speaker 3: I think you do The New York Times Mini Puzzles.
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  Speaker 5: No, well, wordle is now part of the New York Times. Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: it is the Connections.
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  Speaker 8: No, I play the mini crosswords. They do a daily
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: mini crosswords every day. I suppose you're not more into that,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: but I guess you're.
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  Speaker 5: New York Times has a list of advanced this Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: No, I do it on paper. It's the opposite. It's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: whatever the opposite of advanced is.
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  Speaker 5: But you don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But it's much smaller than the one you do.
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  Speaker 5: You don't do connections, No, tell me about so connections
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  Speaker 5: is it's like this grid of words and you have
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: to like pick the four I think it's sixteen words
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  Speaker 5: and you have to do four that are connected to
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  Speaker 5: each other. So you swipe and is this an app
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  Speaker 5: to No, it's part of those it's right with wordle.
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  Speaker 6: It's New York.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of the New York New York Times games.
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  Speaker 5: Games And the problem with work is that you know,
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  Speaker 5: you only get so many wrong tries. Okay, so you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: only get four wrong tries and then you're out. But
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: if you get the first three lines, then the last
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: four is done for you, you know, and you try
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  Speaker 5: to figure it out and like, I can't figure it.
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  Speaker 5: I just pick them and you know you're going to
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  Speaker 5: be right because there's only four left. That's the only
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: flaw in that game.
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  Speaker 6: Do you ever not get the word? And well, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I've had I've had one.
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  Speaker 5: I would say like a few times a month. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, our friends at Microsoft co Pilot estimate word will
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: start repeating around late twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not that far away.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense to me. I mean there's the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: finite amount of words, right, like this is gonna be like, oh,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: here we go again. Well, that's my argument. You don't
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: know what the word is, So what's the difference if
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  Speaker 6: it was the same word yesterday?
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  Speaker 5: You know what it is?
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  Speaker 3: Six letter words?
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  Speaker 6: They have one, right, don't they have Don't they have one?
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  Speaker 3: That's but if you run out of five letter words,
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  Speaker 3: you can just you put it six?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, seven, where's the end the world? Who cares? All right?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Eight? Five? Five pats five hundred. Let's get to the
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  Speaker 5: phones people hanging on. I appreciate that on a dog
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  Speaker 5: days of the NFL. Uh, and I get to get
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  Speaker 5: my mouse to work. There we go. Uh, let's go
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  Speaker 5: to Nick in Connecticut. Nick, we can hear you.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, all right, good. I have a couple of things.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 9: One is kind of off topic and the second is
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: kind of on topic. We got obviously the World Cup
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 9: last night. I personally think that was very, very embarrassing.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 9: Even with Balligan back, we looked like we didn't even
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: know how to play. Yeah, that was just bad. Like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: right after we tied it, they scored again and that's
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: where I kind of lost hope. And then for to one.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 9: Soccer isn't typically a high scoring game, but when you
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: have that kind of you know, ratio or whatever, it's
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  Speaker 9: just it's just not a good look. And second off,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: with how deep our receiving core is. I know a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: big name that you guys all like or mostly fred
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 9: Eththon Chisholm. Do you think he's going to have a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: spot on the roster this year, maybe even practice squad
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: because La Kashawan Boody. We don't know if he's going
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: to get traded yet or if he's going to stay.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 9: I really hope he stays. He's a great receiver. But
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 9: with all the chitter chatter about him possibly getting traded
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: or maybe even something else, I just don't know. Do
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  Speaker 9: you you think Eten Chisholm is going to get a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 9: spot on the rock?
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  Speaker 5: If I had to put money on right now three
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: choices on the roster, practice squad or waived or you know, released,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: I would say practice squad for chism.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think there's any chance he gets released, I don't.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: I think they like him. I think they feel like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: he's worth developing and they'll either put him on the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: roster or on the practice.
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  Speaker 5: So they could trade him for a second round pick.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: Paul, this is true, and the Red Sox could you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: actually make the world.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I just think it's a crowded room right now. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: Now I like f and Chisholm too. The only way
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: he is on the roster if he beats out like
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Pop Douglas in camp. Yeah, it's hard to see.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I do think he's got a little bit
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: of a unique skill set in that he's a little
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: bit more in that mold of the slot receiver that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: Josh likes, a quick, short space, you know, kind of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: what we thought Pop Douglas might be. But he hasn't
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: really become that. Maybe there's a you know, Josh says,
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  Speaker 7: I'd love to have that kind of player in the offense.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: But I'm with Fred. I think he's got to bide
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: his time and wait for maybe a trade or I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: say he's Nick had the spot is Booty gets traded,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: and I think he'll be on the roster, and I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: expect that to happen both of those things.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, I think numbers, but even with Booty being traded,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: you think.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: He's six or seven receivers, Yeah, I guess yeah. No,
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  Speaker 6: I think they like him.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: I think he's you know, like I said, I don't
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: think that he's redundant to anybody. So you know, maybe
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: they see more value or less value in that skill
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: than we're observing now. But you know, I think there's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of players like that in the roster where
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: you just kind of have to bide your time, stay
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: healthy and wait for an opportunity to open up and
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: then take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's see, I think this is uh Brett and Montague?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: Is that right?
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  Speaker 7: I have that right talk Montague, Long Island? That sounds
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: like WESTERNA. I'm sorry, Okay, I have to direct that
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: to Alex.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: What's up Brett? Right where it is? Brett?
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  Speaker 1: My question for I was kind of thinking about Josh McDaniels.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Is he the best offensive coordinator or if he's not,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: what else does he need to accomplish to do so?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had obviously his whole you know, sprint
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: with Tom. Now he comes in and immediately they get
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, obviously there's a lot of context
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: around that, but he's also part of that.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: What was the question again, if you see the best,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: is he the best offensive coordinator you mean, of all
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: time in the league right now?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: I would say all time the best offensive coordinator of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: all time?
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  Speaker 1: In which case, what would he need to do to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: accomplish that?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I don't think there's like a way that you
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: can accomplish something that's so totally subjective.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, look at what even right now in the league,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: look at what the Rams do every year, and look at.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: What you know.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: Evans guy does, Kyle Shannon.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: Every quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: I would just you know, Josha is a tremendous offensive coordinator,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: has had a lot of success. I just would look
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: at you know, like all time, you're looking at guys
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: that they they fared at offenses like you know Bill Walsh,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, being instrumental and you know creating
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: the West Coast offense, you know, Sid Gilman and Don Coriel.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, these guys changed the way the game was played.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: They ushered in a whole new way of calling plays
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: and running running a system.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's hard to suss that out because
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: you're naming all head coaches who.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: Are but these are guys that the developed offenses as assistants.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: Bill Walsh developed the West Coast offense when he was
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: in Cincinnati under Paul Brown.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: Right right, that's a really good question.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, I I don't think there's a lot you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: can do. It's just being an assistant coach. It's like
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 7: being the best second place finisher kind of thing, you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: know what I mean.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: It's I just think it's objective like that. Definitively.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: We talked about that before. You know, like on different teams,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: the role of offensive coordinator kind of changes. But I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: think what Brett is talking about, he's talking about the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: kind of offensive coordinator who is actually the architect of
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: the offense, not just the play caller. And that's Bill Walsh.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: He was the architect of that offense. Now, maybe he
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: didn't have the title of offensive coordinator because he was
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: the head coach. No, but somebody else might.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: But when he was the architect of the offense, he
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: was the offensive coordinator. That's when he That's when he
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: actually did it, like Ron Earhart and Ray Perkins, which
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: is but the Patriots system is those guys were coordinators
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: and they they started they started it. Yeah, yeah, but
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: it's but.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: What he was the architect of last year's offense, right,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: I mean that's you know, that's where let's say, that's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: where it gets complicated.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: No, the architect. No, he's the guy who called plays
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: of the offense last year, who was the Josh This
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: is the Perkins air Hud system, but.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: This is much different something exactly.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: But everything evolves and you run different plays and you
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: cater to your personnel. But like I'm talking about creating
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: an offense, Like like, I don't think Shanahan and McVeigh
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: created what they're doing, but they're obviously incredibly innovative with.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: What they do. But within their team, they're the ones
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: that structure the offense. They're the ones that say, this
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: is the kind of offense we're gonna run. These are
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: the plays we're gonna run. You know, to me, that's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: an architect within a team. Yeah, they didn't create there
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: are you know, it's all based off like you really
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: have to get into it of you.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: Know, what did Bill Walsh create that made that him
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 7: the architect of the West Coast offense?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: And you know it's but I think Josh has been
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: an innovator.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, I look at what he did in two
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: thousand and seven, and you know that wasn't just hey,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: plug Randy Mass into the air Harperkins system.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: It was let's evolve it.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: Well, the terminology might have been the same, but the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: spread offense, they weren't runing.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: I mean that was run to score, run, you know,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: throw the score, run to win. I mean maybe it's
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: all based in the same principles of you know, I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: don't know, that's just me.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he But but you think the offense has
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: evolved since.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: It changed based on the time. They don't run the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: ball as much as they used to, but they run
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: it the same way.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: Who used to the West Coast didn't evolve from something too.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: Of course, it does it very well, very well, because
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: I know it's hard to say.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: I just I have an enormous amount of respect and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, Josh mcthaniels I think proved a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 7: lot last year because there was a lot on him
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: coming back, saying we'll see if he can do it again.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 7: You know, he did it with Brady. He hasn't really
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: done it since. And you know, he put together a
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: season with Drake May where he came in second in MVP.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Listen, we'll see this year. I give Josh a lot
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: of credit for what he did with Cam Newton. Yeah,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I mean Cam Newton was a shell of himself.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: But it's just like how do you break out and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: become like this is the Josh McDaniel's offense, Like can
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 7: he never do that? Like, yeah, you have to come up,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: but how would we know be like we're doing something new?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: This is the Josh two point.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'll tell you when it happens, he'll tell you.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: He's right.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: He's got a fullback back this year, I'll tell you.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: But who was the guy in Denver that kind of
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: created that zone running Gibbs? Yeah, I mean that was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: innovative kind of yeah, but but still like you know,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: but that's more of an element, you know, not an.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: Entire like the West Coast offense has a verbiage all
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: its own, like Brian Hoyer. You know, we would just
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: watch Brian Hoyer a little bit at the break with
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: Fat Paul on the old in the Old Studio that
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: was Medium Paul that Yeah, you were in that, but
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: he he like broke down a play once, like just
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: one play and it went on for like twenty minutes,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: like just calling a play, like there's a whole different
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: set of you know, wording and oh.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: Man, where was it last year? I heard?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: So if you was on like a radio or a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: TV or something where they were like do the different
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: cadences for the different offenses? And you know he had
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: because he played in so many different ones, like even
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: just the stupid cadence.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: They're all different how they are. Know, it's like, what
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: was it? It was like twenty eleven, right when Bill
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: O'Brien was you know, like they did things that year
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: that I'd never seen them do before or since. But
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: I don't think he innovated anything, Like he just decided.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: Belichick probably came up with the idea, what there's less
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: preparation time coming out of the lockout, we might be
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: able to catch some teams unaware and not as prepared.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: We're gonna go as lightning fast as we can with
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: these two tight ends, and we're gonna have our NASCAR pack,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: you know. Like, but I don't think that it was
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: like an innovative thing. Teams have done it before since.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: It makes me wonder if Josh had had success as
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: a head coach and put together a really good offense
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: elsewhere on his own when he's the head coach, would
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: he get maybe more credits the right word, But you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: know what I mean, like if he went off on
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: his own and now it's kind of he has ownership
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: of it. Whereas as a coordinator, you're always under a
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: head coach. You're always part of a system. At what
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: point does it become yours? I think that's a good point,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: you know, yep, yep, I know.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: I mean it's the same thing with defense really, you know,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: you don't hear about it as much, but you know
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: the origins of the three four defense, Yeah you know
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: the LEO Yeah yeah, well no, before that, it was
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: Bud Wilkinson, ok yeah, Oklahoma home in college. Yeah, but
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: that's where the three four started.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, now that's where Parcels got it from. Yep, Bud Wilkinson.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: But even like to your point, Fred, like a lot
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: of the you know, defensive innovations.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: Now are more like zone blitz. You know, there's more
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: cover two.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: Now and the Fangio stuff that's been going on.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: You know, like there's there's more subtle twists within these systems,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: whereas you don't really have a whole new defensive system,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: per se. It's more trends and you know, we're you know,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: like Bill was a big fan of let's kind of
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: take off the strong side linebacker and make more of
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 7: a safe the type.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: You know, a guy can run a little bit more.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: Now you've got Patrick Chung instead of you know, another
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: linebacker type.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I don't know.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: It's it's I love that stuff. I love how interesting
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: it all is.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: But it's Bucky Jones, the big neck Lucky Jones, Victor Green,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Victor Green.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: Oh man, they were recycling guys in left him right
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: was the Arizona guy they brought in, like Adrian Wilson.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: Adrian Wilson and another one. He was a good player
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: in this time.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: John Lynch John.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Lynch all right podcast at Patriots dot com is the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: email address. You got a lot of those coming in.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Uh this is from Leon. I was wondering who you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: guys think the fastest players in the team are. I like,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: I know Gonzales can run with Hill or Marcus is
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: an amazing punt returner. But if you were to line
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: them all up, Gonzo, Marcus, Kyle or Henderson, who would
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: out run who.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: Henderson, I'd say Henderson. I think that would pick Henderson.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: Weren't they having like sprints before practice, like.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: Kyle Williamson and Pop or Douglas Williams a little bit,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: But I don't know if they were both going it
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: all up. I just I think I think Henders Henderson
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: moves different.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: He floats.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: I mean it was reinforced when we saw him at
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: Mini camp where I'm just like that guy. I mean,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: he just it's like some people look like they were
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: mentorr on, like Megan O'Brien looks like she was meant
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: to run cross country, like the girl just looked effortless,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: like floating over the ground like twenty six point two,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: no problem.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: And that's how I feel like with Henderson and sprinting,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: it's just like poetry watching him.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: Go, Let's see who's this? I don't know, he doesn't
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: say his name. What new wrinkles will Kevin Bayern bring
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: to the defense. What's the best way to use his
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: skill set?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: Smart thing? Yeah, experience, knowing what's coming, alerting guys to hey,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: watch for this. I think that that would probably be
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: the biggest thing. And I hope that perception hopefully, Yeah, hopefully.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, he's just he seems like a
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 7: guy who's in the right place. You hope he doesn't
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: start to slow down. I think this is the best
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: thing to ever happen to Craig Woodson.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I'm excited to have him.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: That could be a really I mean, yeah, it could
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: be a great point.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: I'd be excited about Craig Woodson if they had brought
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: Jalen Hawkins back just to see how it looked in
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: your two now, to put him next to a guy
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: with the experience and the smarts of Bayern. I I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: think that the you know, it's there's an unlimited potential
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 7: there for for Craig Woodson.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: And what he could possibly do this year.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: And I'm just interested how they use those two guys.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: Let's go Egypt just went to Egypt on the counterattack.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, they're about to build a pyramid right,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: Oh god.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: Now do we hate Argentina to I don't.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: I don't think.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know all the all the like I found
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: out that we don't like some of the teams. I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: don't know, so I don't have all the grudget.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: It's not like the Chiefs, so the Colts, like, I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: know that it's just Rinaldo Messi rivalry. It's dumb.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: It is crazy with soccer, the goals means so much,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: like you know, it's like touchdown, a goal, you know,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: yeah that stuff.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: It's great, but like a goal in the round of sixteen,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: like these guys.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: And Antonio Brown took his shirt off a touchdown once.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: I had some other thing. Brian from New York I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: asked Evan and alex at on Catch twenty two and
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: wanted to get your opinion on this so question regarding
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: Pop Douglas. I feel last year all we heard from
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: people was Pop was open on this play or that play,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: and Drake just didn't throw it the ball at him.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: Do you believe that could be due to his height
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: and Drake not seeing him. If so, how do they
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: fix the problem.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they threw the ball to him. Funny
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: he was like think he did. He had the same
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: around of Tigers Khan Booty. Yeah, they were. They were
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: complimentary pieces.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 7: I do think there's something to be said about We
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: feel like Drake prefers to have.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: Bigger, bigger targets, you know what.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: Definitely think dogs and Brown this year. Those are two
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: big dudes who I think he will very much enjoy.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: Uh but no, I mean I think Pop is kind
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: of we expected him to be one thing and he's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: something else, and they just have to continue to figure
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: out how to how to use him.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: Drake was very complimentary of him the spring.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 7: Remember last year that somebody asked about him and he's like,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 7: you know, Pops, he's getting into the right places. You know.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: It was like he said, like implying he wasn't always
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: in the right places the.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 7: First year, and then this year he said, you know,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 7: he's really consistently getting into the right spots.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: He had an active training and mean he took the
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: goal away.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: Took it away good.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: Another reason why I can't just can't take the sports seriously. Well,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: that's why I said that Paul this morning. Every time
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: a goal scoring.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: That Argentina can't lose.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: That's what it is, answered, racket.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: They just made sure that the team that's supposed to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: win and is going to have a chance. Is that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: what happened? I think they did they call it? Did
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: they call a foul after the fact because the guy's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: touching his Yeah, they called a foul. Because the ball
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: wouldn't be down here just outside.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: George writes in This is for Paul. He's about the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: Odell Beckham catch. He says, I think Jet Jefferson's fourth
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: down catch at Buffalo was much better than.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: It's a great catch. I know the catch you're talking
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: about and seals it not as good as the OBJ catch,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: but a great a great catch. Yeah, at Buffalo, like
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: maybe three years ago, four years ago. It's an unbelievable catch.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: It's He's absolutely right, justin Jefferson fourth I think it
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: was like a fourth and eighteen in Buffalo. This has
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: got catch of the year. It's an incredible catch.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: It really is. Matthew Wright s in Fred's I did
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: to move college to spring is so disrespectful to the UFL,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: the premier spring league. Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry UFL. I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: wanted to ask what happens if Gay Bacchus goes unsigned
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: and doesn't join the Patriots. Do the Patriots still hold
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: his rights or is he just a year a free
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: agent for a whole.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: Year until next draft? Yep, then they would lose his rights.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: That was pretty good. It's a great catch, and I.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: Know exactly what he's talking about going on to you
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: know that's I mean, Beckhams was amazing, but that one and.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: Had he not caught it, they lose. Yeah. Good, they
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: ended up winning that game.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Buffalo, let's see Cody. In defense of wearing jerseys, please read,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: he says, we got.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: A lot of these last week. Oh yeah, I thine
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: that came back up.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: They sell blank jerseys. If you want to wear a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: jersey that badly.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: Just don't get a name on it.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: I don't really even care.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: Just wear it and you don't have to care what
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: we think.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 13: He says.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: I'll admit I was surprised by some of the comments,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: especially the moronic email from Sean that suggested that grown
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: men shouldn't wear them because it's somehow childish or makes
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: them less of a man. Ironically, I think Evan said
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: it best without even realizing it. He mentioned that when
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: he puts on a Celtics jersey and goes to a game,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: he feels like a big kid, And I think that's
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: exactly the point. Sports are one of the last true
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: connections many of us have to childhood. As we get older,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: life becomes filled with work, responsibilities, bills, raising kids, blah
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: blah blah. For many of us, those three of hours
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: on a Sunday or a random Tuesday, or one of
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: the few opportunities we get to reconnect with that sense
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: of excitement we had as kids.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: If it's that deep for you, yeah, we're the jersey.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, I don't know why you would care
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: what other people think. If you like to wear it,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: wear it, yeah, just not for.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: Me, he says. Being a man isn't determined by what
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: shirt you're wearing. It's determined by how you show up
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: for your family, how you treat your neighbors, whether you're
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: there for their friends, speak exactly, do you spend time
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: with your family, children to be good people, and whether
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: you contribute positively to community. That's what defines character, not
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: whether you're wearing a number ten or a number one,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: or a custom jersey or of your favorite player. When
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: we start questioning someone else's manhood because they're wearing the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: colors of the team they love, I think we're missing
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 6: It's easy to grin when your ship ridings in and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: you've got the stock.
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  Speaker 3: Markets trans Atlantic accent, right.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: It does it is?
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  Speaker 13: It is?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: There does not are across sports, because you know, I
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: never felt like I look great in a in a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: basketball you know, cut off like I was never wearing
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 7: a basketball jersey.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tank top.
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  Speaker 6: And he pretends he knows so little about basketball that
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: he doesn't even know what a tank top is.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: But is that really what they call basketball jerseys or
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: tank tops?
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  Speaker 6: But it is a tank Top's what I know.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: It is a tank top.
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  Speaker 6: But I've never heard like that sounds informal, That doesn't
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: sound like but a uniform basketball uniform. Everybody would just
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 6: say it's a tank.
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  Speaker 3: Top style of the garment.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: I I like hockey.
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  Speaker 5: I like where people wear hockey jerseys. I think those
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: are cool.
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  Speaker 6: You know, when I could you only what I can allow.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because especially because of cold, stay warm, But I
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  Speaker 7: love wearing my jerseys.
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  Speaker 6: I think it might have to bust I have a Gronku,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: one of the alternate gronk ones. Might have to bust
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: that out. Mike is on the show and he doesn't
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: take any offense to it.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: And we still let him sit here.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: He bothers, you get the hell out.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: He wears his shirts, not as much as used to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: want to wear. Jey in your Brusky jersey, go ahead
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: one of millions in Boston. Uh, it's Sully, Sully, Obi
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: Zach writes.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: In last year, Drake past catches got together before training
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: camp for a few days. Any news if they're doing
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: that again, if we.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 7: Had ad we needed add that Drake to Remandre on
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 7: the water ski or jet ski.
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  Speaker 6: Excuse me, no, I haven't seen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure just like right before camp though last year,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: wasn't it?
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  Speaker 5: You know what I like? Though?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Do it? Don't tell us about it?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: Like you know, no, they got a highlight, you know,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: it's like it's all like professionally time and like are
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: you there?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: Or they're going to.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: Rap music in the background and then they're going to
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: release it.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like that.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: Steven fort Drumm, thank you for your service. You guys
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: have the best timing when it comes to taking days
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: off from the show. Last two times the cruise taking
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: Thursday off. One was the A. J. Brown Trade and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: two was the Jalen Brown trade.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: Well I didn't know, just so you know, like the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: A J. Brown trade was not a day off. It
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: was a World Cup game and we couldn't be here
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: otherwise we would we would have had a show on
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: on on a Thursday.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: Uh, Lou and Philly a couple of weeks ago. Uh,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: you and the guys were talking about who on the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: Patriots would have been the best soccer player if they
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: had trained from childhood. In my mind, it's an absolute
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: no brainer. Marcus Jones could have been an elite players footwork, speed.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: And I used him as an example.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: I could have been.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 8: Something anything he wants us anything. I'm convinced become exceptional.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: When he started that team that up. That's exactly I
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: don't know will be nice.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: He's he's anybody else, nobody on defense, else, nobody on
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: I got a crush on him.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he knows that, but none of
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: the if he knows who I am, which is probably
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: a good thing.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: Hey you Eric on the whole soccer youth thing. Been
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: loving the off season shows and all the different topics
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: that are being covered in addition to the new England Patriots.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: I think one thing that is being left out in
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: the soccer discussion is how much is probably Egypt scored? Again?
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Wow?
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: What's going on with He thinks the one thing that's
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: left out is how much soccer sports media is being
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: consumed by youth players in other countries. Here in the US,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of kids start watching ESPN at a young
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: age and get exposed to high level analysis of the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: sports we love, like the NFL. This is true as
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: well for other parts of the world, except the main
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: focus on soccer, not not another, not other sports. So
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: from a young age, kids are hearing analysis and breakdowns
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: of soccer and how the game flows, works, plays, et cetera.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: This absolutely has to play into how the rest of.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, I agree, that's my point is it's not the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: passionate sport in this country. It is in almost every
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: other one. Yeah, it's not ESPN's fault.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: No, I throw things like collecting cards, Like for me,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 7: I collected football cards, and you know I knew who all.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: The players on the team. I mean, that's it's just
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: all part of it.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: I think Mike and Florida kind of coming at Paul
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Two things first, One, who would be the perfect owner
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: for the Red Sox. I think this ownership group has
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: a pretty good track record.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: I think they did have a good track record until
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: they stopped trying to win.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the richest from Boston that care.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: You don't have someone you'd like to buy the Red Sox,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: someone who's willing to spend money.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: I would be a good owner if I had money.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would be, so therefore you wouldn't be a good.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: Owner, right. I want them to be from here in
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: a fan How about if I get like a backer
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: that backs me, you know, some big billionaire, and I'll
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: be the owner of that. I'll be the face of it.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: I don't ever want an owner who thinks it's the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: right move to trade a guy like Mookie bets like
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: that's all, but.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: I have a little bars. I would have trade devers.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not paying him well.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: I would also like an owner smart enough to know
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: that he's not a three hundred million dollar play well.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: That was which is the only reason why I strated
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: I'd love to have him on the team right now.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: If he had a better attitude, he keep fine.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: If you keep better because he has Mookie to look
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: up to.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Again, if you don't trade all your good players,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: you're not in this situation that I have a very
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: low bar. Spend money and you know, retain good players.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: The second thing Mike and Florida is going after Paul
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: for is which victories did Bill Belichick take credit for that?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: He didn't deserve the Baltimore Ravens two thousand Super Bowl.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: He credits himself with drafting Jonathan Augen and Ray Lewis.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: I mean sorry, he wasn't even there.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: You asked, Mike, you asked and I and you didn't
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: just make this up? He said it at the time,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: right back in and retort. Yep, he asked. Let's see
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: I email last week. This is Jadarius.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: It was a question for Evan, But I'm curious about
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: Alex's choices as well. You're the head coach and you
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: have to assemble your coordinators for members on the PU crew.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: Who are you picking for O, C, D C in
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: special teams?
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: M hmm, that's fun. He's asking you asking Barth No,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: you you me specifically who I'm picking.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Who's your offensive corner, defensive cordners.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: This is my defensive coordinator.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: Evan and I both had Paul's got to be the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: head coach right now.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: Paul would have to be head coach and offensive coordinator.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: You're a phil special for me, Bill, no idea special.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: Evan wouldn't realize.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: I have the most experienced punting soccer balls.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: Evan wouldn't relay Evan.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 8: Would you'd have to be over his dead body? Would
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 8: he not be the offensive coordinator? And then I have
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 8: my villain, Ernie.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: It's got to be the head coach. Yeah, you're you're
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: the balls, but.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: You're the situational clock guy. That's like in right, and
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: you're holding him back to you, the whole back guy,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: the whole back guy.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: I don't need a whole back hold. I say, I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: need someone to be the whole back guy on me
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: because I'd be yelling at the hold. Right.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: I'm wondering what i'd wear on the sideline if I
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: was a head coach.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you have a cardigan, now, some kind of like
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 8: Dick had the sweater vest. You would you would have
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 8: a cardigan?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, like what would be
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: like assuming the weather's not bad, because if the weather's bad,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: I'm dressing up for the weather.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: Ye always sixty two degree day in October and it's sunny.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh probably quarters of quarters?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you. I think you make the cardigan
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: your brand.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: Maybe some wide quarter what Bill.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: Did with the cutoff Poddy and what Mike Dicka did
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: with the vest.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: Will you know that Deuce would do that. I don't
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: know what it would be, but he would have some
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: kind of isn't it funny?
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: Like like in a hockey game the coaches wearing a
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: suit looks normal. An NFL coach walks out in a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 7: suit on the sideline, like that's weird?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: What's he doing?
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: Like you know, right, like why is this some jarring
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: back in the day? Then right, like tried to bring
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: special and Jack like why it's so bizarre? And then
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: like you know, football coaches come out and like wind pants.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: And you know, yeah they look lemon.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: What about basketball head coaches?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: Like they stopped so they were like they're like in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: practice right, like like like yeah, or just a long
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: sleeve teacher.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: By the way, what about the US men's team manager
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: that the thing that he wears, it's like it's it's
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: like it's not a leisure suit, but it's like this
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: it's like a casual.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, it's a weird. Look, I agree he was.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: He had the Paul last night though he was pouting
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: it up on the sideline.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: That's not what I told him.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 8: It reminds me of that denim shirt that Rabel loves,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: what I mean, but then a mix of like, no,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 8: a mix of Rabel's closet. I guess his denim shirt
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: that he loves and wears all the time, and then
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: his workman shirts that he got for the whole team.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: I was like a cargo mix of that show.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: Otherwise it is the blue vest.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 7: I admire the consistency, Like I was, like, you know,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: Bill was funny, but he had different sweatshirts and he
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: changed it up. But Rabel is just like I wonder,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 7: at what point did he decide, like I just need
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: an outfit. I don't want to think about it every day.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna put on this vest.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: The hedge fund dad.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: It's just like.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: Hedge fun dad, you know.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: And people like kind of didn't totally overlook it, but
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think they made as much about it as
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: they should have. When Bill would purposely turn like the
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: sweatshirts or whatever inside out so that the logo wasn't showing,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: Like how can you do that if you're the head
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: coach of a team.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, there's I don't know if you want to
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 7: we don't have we only have so many two minutes.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: Some of us Smith's at the time.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: But isn't it disrespectful to your own brand, your own team.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean there was the whole you know, super
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 7: Bowl fifty one in the Atlanta game and he's got
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: the the elvis was ripped off the jacket and people
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 7: are like, it's inside out, and I'm like, no, it's not,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: because if it was inside him.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: It's just about the It's about the principle of it,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like, like what's the price? Doesn't want anyone
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: to tell.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: Him what to do?
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, now, that's the principle.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: Well it is, You're right. I mean, it's just like
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: just rebel without a cost.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, didn't Rondo like years ago Paul might remember this,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: Like Rondo would wear his headband and he flipped it
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 8: upside down.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe just got really inspired.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: I remember nine against Denver, Chal Bill was miked up
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 7: and he was like talking about the uniform of the
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 7: Broncos wore those terrible uniforms, and Bill was like, you
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: should have seen what they tried to put me in.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: He's like, nope, but he can choose whatever you want.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: Why does he Why would he purposely turn it inside out?
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: Or like you said, rip it goes off the highway.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: That's intriguing Fred and why I tracked them all for
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: however many years it.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: Was I don't know, man, you're getting paid a lot
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: of money.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: He's the oppressed masses. Yeah, being the highest paid coach
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: in the history of sport. That's kind of weird. Let's see,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: this is a little bit different.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: I've been watching a lot of World Cup soccer and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: have seen Have you seen this Holland guy?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he looks so big, strong and fast,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: the perfect American football player. Does soccer have a combine
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: or relative athletics score of or some equivalent. I think
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: he would be off the charts for r A S.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure he would.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: I how much?
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's like six y five. Do
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: you know how much he weighs.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: I'm curious, kind of a tight end. He's pretty I
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: think if you put him up.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 8: Against that, because he's conditioned for to play soccer, like
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: those guys are running ten mile the game.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: If he was training like a football player, can you imagine.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: He is a beast? I just like a beast.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 7: People do that impression of him with like the head out,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: you know, and the running and the long blonde hair,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 7: and it's just like, I got.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: A whole lot to have a problem when he gets older. Curvature.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: Did you see the last game that they played he
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: scored the two goals. Yeah, you see the second goal
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: he scored to put the game away.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: It was almost like it was fake. Like he's standing
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: basically in the top of the box by himself, no one.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is like one of the five best
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: players in the world, and they just center the ball
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 6: to him. He stops it with one like he stopped
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 6: it the way I would stop it, you know, just
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: stops it with one foot, realigns himself and just kicks
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: it into the corners.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: And it's like there's nobody here, I know between the
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: guy's likes in it, like perfectly just kisses the inside.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: But he was so deliberate with it. I couldn't believe it.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 8: But I mean, man, that guy, I mean that he
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: sicks four ways between one ninety four and two oh seven.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: That's like, I mean, that's maybe a big corner.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: He's probably face.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 8: Too, Like he looks like he was the bone structure
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: of like a lost time, you know, like he doesn't
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: really he could have been born in the time of
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 8: the Viking, just like he doesn't think.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: He's good looking.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's the interesting question. He's off the market.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: You just got the same girl for like five.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 8: Years and just how like mainly he is is unique,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: you know for sure, the bone structure like very strong.
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  Speaker 5: What thing I'll say about the Scandinavians, they have the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: best skin I've ever seen. Like every Scandinavian I've ever
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: seen has like the perfectly smooth, no sun proper, perfect skin.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: It's unbelievable, whether they're Finish or Norwegian.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: Or Dutch or the women are beautiful. Yeah, it's the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: skin Candice Swain Poole and her prime, Like that's what
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: I think of.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: What I know about Holland two is just he plays
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 7: with such joy Like it's just like you can tell
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 7: he's having fun.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 8: Like yeah, that's the best example you could say, like
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: in every way stature.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: That he's only two five. Everybody's like, what an NFL
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: tight end seventy pounds fifty pounds too light?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a big corner, but you got to be when
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: you're running as much as totally.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, totally raining for soccer because probably, but.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: We'll compare him to Messi, who's.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: But you'll speaking a little guy. Even casual fans they
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: know Messi, they know Ronaldo, they know. How come we didn't,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: or at least I didn't hear more about aber Vimmitfitch
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: when he was.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: Playing the American Bubble.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: He was crazy. I mean he was so good.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: Did you see that?
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: I was saying that earally they I saw a highlight
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 7: of like his first goal and it was like he
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 7: faked out like seven different guys.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like the guy go down and pull around him.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 8: Gut shot he had to from like yards behind the
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: box that hit like one hundred miles per hour off
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: his foot.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: He's got one of the cockiest guys I've ever seen
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: in my life.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: Like just the comments that he has.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: Is there anything like how long ago did he stop playing?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: Twenty eighteen? I think okay, he didn't stop until he
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: was like forty one. I think, all right, so something
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: it was recent enough. Yeah, I was gonna say, like
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: because the game, you know how sometimes oh not done yet.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: But you know, like he came back at a late
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: age and into the Premier League and somebody said, you know,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: he's too old for the Premier League. He's like, I
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: made the Premier League look old. He's sod.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: You know when sometimes when you watch like even like
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: eighties hockey, you see like Gretzky and you're like, is
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: everybody else moving right? Like it just looks like a
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: different sport. But this guy played to twenty eighteen, so
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: he played the same game and it's not like the
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: game has changed that dramatically. And you less than tailed
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: monck E goalies with like little pads on like dramatic
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: try to save and like you know, like they come
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: out to come down the angle and they're like right
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: instead of going into the butterfly.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: James Penni grew the most interesting Patriots fan of the world, says, uh,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not a huge baseball fan baseball fan, but Dave
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: Portnoy buying the Red Sox would provide me decades of entertainment.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that would be something I think. Now he
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: would need backers. As much money as he has still
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: ain't even close to being enough.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 7: You know, I don't know with all the I mean,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: like you said, Alex, the Celtics getting killed for the
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: private equity stuff, I mean, it just puts more of
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: a highlight on owners, like honestly.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: Care for the team, you know.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so honestly Robert should by the Red Sox.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: The private equity style. I don't know enough about it,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: but is it just all like, isn't it possible to
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: have like private equity guys that care about winning too like?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: Or is it just about the money.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: Your bottom line?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: There's nothing if you're in it for the money. There's
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: nothing better for business than winning a championship. You're gonna
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: make your return tenfold if you're a championship team, rather
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: than just cutting costs and trying to make your money
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: off of concessions and all that other stuff. But once
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: you become a championship team, now you start printing money, right, So, yeah,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: it takes more money to become that champ, but I
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: think in the long run it pays off.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: I think you might be right, but I think it's time.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 8: You know, you can also make a lot of money
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 8: just buying more teams, you know, and maybe not everyone's
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: winning a championship, but you have so many of them,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: doesn't make a difference.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: He did, That's that's the line of demarcation.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, chishm is already.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 8: It got bad enough for them to issue an apology
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 8: to like statement to Liverpool fans.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: They were trying, they were going to try to do something.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: And they were going to like boycott.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: They got boycotted out of it.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: But Chisholm's already talking about it. You know, a stadium
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: for the Celtics for the Celtics, and you know that's
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: where you make your money, is owning your own.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: He can have his own concerts and everything else that
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: goes with it. Where would that go? Well? Talking about
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: the seaports, where is there left.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: To build down by where the Boston Athletic used to be.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: And I just hear people on radio saying the seaport,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: But I don't know. If they do, they can go
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: back to the Yellow seas.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: It's just so hard to get to.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: The trying to do it himself. I love this. I
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: love this.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 7: We're gonna stay on an extra, We're gonna go, We're
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 7: gonna keep going watch this.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: Egypt Eric from Amherstburg. I coached high school football and
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: martial arts boxing karate and m m A. Why doesn't
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: the league go to soft shell pads helmet and shoulder pads.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: We violently throw kicks, takedowns, et cetera. We use soft
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: shells because it slows the concussive blows to the head.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: Hard shells allow the brain to take the full rattling
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: without slowing the blow to the head. What's the team's
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: thoughts on that? If the league cares about injuries? So,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's a big question.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 6: Some of them wear Guardian cats that had the soft
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: stops shell.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: Guy.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't seem to be slowing anything down, but
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 6: you know, there is.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: There is something to be said as as the equipment
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 5: gets better and allows you to be more violent, you
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: become more violent and the hits then become harder. If
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: you were wearing or if you didn't even have helmets
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: and you didn't have shoulder pads, it'd.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: Be more like rugby game.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: Uh, maybe this common nodge, But I saw a thing where,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: you know, there was so much being said for rugby
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: players and not wearing helmets, and when they actually did
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: go to study rugby, like they all got the CTE too,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 7: you know, like it's it's.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: Well, that's prevalent, it's you know what I mean I
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: stayed out on purpose because like you see, they don't
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: they don't talk about all the concussions and all the
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 6: other sports. It's just a it's a nightmare and it's
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 6: crucis the soccer. I can see those balls in the
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 6: head and it's like, will tell you how does that happen?
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's sound like a sweet spot where you don't
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: feel it like I always felt like they're like you're
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 7: got a hit her with the crown of your head.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: I see guys like the side of their head.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, you don't jump up together.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: With no helmet or you get an elbow to the temple,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: Peter wants to write in Pete in Ottawa now in Florida.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: Pete'sa a longtime listen to the show and he wants
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: to apologize. But after reading the email, you need not
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: apologize for anything. So I'll just preface the email with
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: that I'm the loser who wrote in last week mentioning
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: that I listened to old shows. Evan mocked me and
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: said I should touch some grass. It's hugely embarrassing to
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: be mocked by Evan. I wanted to explain myself. I
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: cleaned pools in South Florida. I'm outside cleaning about ten
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: hours a day. I'm constantly looking for things to listen to.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: So that's my reason for listening to old shows, which
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: by the way is still excel. Again, no need to apologize,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: it's Evan is the one you should be apologized. Evan
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: hasn't done a hard day's work like that in his life.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 6: No, not like that period.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 5: So I don't even think he knows how to swim,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: let alone clean a pool.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: Aunt of Massachusetts, could you stop by my my house
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: clean my pool? That is a good quick Can you
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: even swim? I think that's a yes.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: Well if he didn't grow up with a yard, did
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: he grow up.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: Up in the lakes.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: He grew up in lakes up in Hampshire, probably, so
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: I think he can swim.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we're.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: Gonna ask him.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: You think I'll answer me.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: Like a get mopped out how to swim?
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: Just wonder.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: What you're about to say is wrong.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: I had a friend who couldn't swim really yeah.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: We were in my friend's different friends pool and he
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: was like in the low end a you know, around
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: like he kind of went too far and like my
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: friend's father had to jump in and them noiling around.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: I saw that in boot camp the amount of people
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: that just don't know how to swim. They call them
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: iron ducks because they just sank.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: Do you have to learn how to swim?
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: Then if there's a whole week it's called swim week,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: you spend the whole week in the pool basically.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: So what happens to them? Do they flunk out or
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: they can't?
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: They take like separate swim lessons basically to like catch
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: it up, and then they have to pass it the
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: same test we all do.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: Gotcha? Okay? They're given private tutor correct Ford and Savannah, Georgia.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: For the fourth of July, my mother and nephew came
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: to visit me. Before they came, I was start staring
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: at the pristine Larry Bird jersey that I only wore
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: once to say thank you to the person who got
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: it for me. I love Larry Bird, but I didn't
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: feel right wearing that jersey as a fully grown man
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: with Paul's With Paul's words echoing in my head, I
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: decided it was time to hang it up and give
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: it to my fifteen year old nephew to enjoy. It
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: until he too becomes a man. Have to side with
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: Paul on this one.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 8: Wow, Larry Bird's one of the few exceptions I would
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 8: make too, because it's like a legend.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: It's my rule.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 6: It's I'm not opposed to buying throwback uniforms. I just
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 6: would never wear them.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: Put it in a cool frame in your man cave
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 6: I'd be a big fan of that.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: That people would ask me, you know, like what your
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: jersey have. I just think you gotta buy guys, you know,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: their legends. Yeah, you're there. It's like buy a gronky
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: are back then.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: Remember the guy that used to work for the revolution
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: that used to walk around in the full uniform full kid?
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah no you don't remember that, Nora. This is a
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: long time ago.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: I think it was good for a FIFA though, because
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: they're like T shirts, right, I mean, that's a good fit,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 7: not like an oversized, stupid looking thing, like you could
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 7: just kind of wear it.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: I don't mind wearing the teen jersey, but like having
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: another guy's name on your back, I'm not sure about that.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: What was the name, what was the what was the
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: team that? Do you remember when the UK fans came
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 6: and they gave us stuff. They came with gifts and
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: I got a Do you remember what the name of
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: the team was? I have, I had a kid.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: UK.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: It was the UK guys that came here, like I
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: think Mark was here. No, just a jersey.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: So which team was it?
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: I don't remember.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: Was it I don't know? Was it Arsenal?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: I don't remember.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't remember.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 9: It.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: Definitely wasn't Manchester.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: You're saying words, I know what they mean.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: Definite I know. Yeah, I don't remember. I've got a
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: bunch of German jerseys from different team. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: got one from Bayern Munich that has my name on it,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: so I'll wear that because it has my name on it.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 8: I have an old Byron jersey that's a long sleeve
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 8: and it's so vintage. They don't even have all the
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 8: stars for the amount of championships.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: Speaking of the UK, Robin the UK says he hasn't
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: gotten his T shirt. Rob in the UK, Rob in
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 5: the UK. The email that came in today he needs his,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 5: He needs his T shirt.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: Ten of them went out yesterday. Did Rob's I have
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: to I have to check.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know to be honest, okay, because that's what
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: we're talking about right now. He needs it, yeah badly.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: All right, so I took care of that one. I'm
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: not going to delete it. No, I can delete mine. Okay.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: So MESSI takes the lead with eight goals.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: Huh, and we're gonna have him. Rob.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: Shirt did get sent out yesterday, Rob, so check at that.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 5: How long is it taking shirts to get to the
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: UK these days? I don't know.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: The FedEx thing says you're getting a shipment today, so.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: Oh great, wow wow. So Rob, keep your eye out
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: in the overnight International in your flat.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: They're using drun.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: It's going to get delivered to your flat today, assuming
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: that you live in a flat. If he has a home,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: don't That's why I said, assuming that you live in
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: a flat. He could He could live in one of
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: those little rowhouses with the little gardens that.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: They're so cute the English nowhere conditioning.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: All right, well, listen, it looks exactly what you think
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: it would look like.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: So are we back tomorroworrow? So we're on tomorrow Wednesday
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: at noon because there's the quarter final World Cup game
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: on Thursday, which is the last game at Gillette stadium.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: That's the name of the stadium. And then we're back
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: to our regular schedule after this week. But we'll be
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: back tomorrow and we'll have more World Cup highlights for you.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: Maybe there'll be some Patriots news, who knows, but we
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: will see you then.
• 1:54:31
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• 1:54:33
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• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Thanks a lot,