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How Lee Gilley Fled To Italy · Crime Night

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all carry these device in our pockets,
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Speaker 1: right phones that can pinpoint our exact location for advertisers
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Speaker 1: in like milliseconds.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, completely, you can track.
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Speaker 1: A food delivery driver turn by turn right down your street.
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Speaker 1: But then when the State of Texas straps a state
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Speaker 1: mandated GPS monitor to a man charged with capital murder,
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Speaker 1: he can literally just cut it off his leg, drive
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Speaker 1: to an airport, and fly to Europe, and you know,
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Speaker 1: not a single alarm sounds for three whole days.
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Speaker 2: It's I mean, it completely shatters this illusion of the
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Speaker 2: modern surveillance state we think we live in. Yeah, we
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Speaker 2: think the system is this impenetrable net, but in reality,
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Speaker 2: it's often just a series of disconnected alarms ringing in
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Speaker 2: empty rooms, and when the right person realizes nobody is
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Speaker 2: actually listening, the results are just catastrophic.
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Speaker 1: Well, welcome to our deep dive. I'm so glad you're
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Speaker 1: here with us today because we are bringing you a
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Speaker 1: meticulously cracked exploration of just a chilling true story. Our
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Speaker 1: mission today is to explore this brutal betrayal, a shocking
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Speaker 1: international will escape, and the glaring, terrifying cracks in our
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Speaker 1: justice system that basically made it all possible.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And as someone who has spent years investigating these
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Speaker 2: types of cases, I have to say, this isn't just
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Speaker 2: a recounting of what happened on a quiet October night.
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Speaker 2: It's really about how a trail of digital secrets and
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Speaker 2: well systemic failures allowed a killer to exploit the very
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Speaker 2: laws designed to protect human rights.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's a story that starts behind the closed doors
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Speaker 1: of a seemingly perfect Texas home and then just explodes
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Speaker 1: into this massive international manhunt. So I want to start
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Speaker 1: by grounding this in the life of the victim, because
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Speaker 1: you know, Christi Gilly is really the center of this tragedy.
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Speaker 1: She is absolutely and by every single metric, Kristal was
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Speaker 1: just a powerhouse. She was a mother of two young children.
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Speaker 1: She was a highly respected physical therapist and adjunct professor.
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Speaker 2: Really diehard Clemson University alumni too.
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Speaker 1: Yes, she was just the kind of person who really
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Speaker 1: anchored her community.
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Speaker 2: She was I mean, she was the eldest of four girls,
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Speaker 2: and she fiercely valued her lifelong friendships. Just a few
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Speaker 2: months before her death, actually, she had reconnected with her
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Speaker 2: core group of high school friends from South Carolina. For
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Speaker 2: I think it was their twenty year reunion. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: she was vibrant, deeply present in the lives of the
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Speaker 2: people she loved, and by all accounts, she was just.
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Speaker 1: Thriving, which is exactly why the events of October seventh,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four are so profoundly jarring. I really want
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Speaker 1: you to picture this neighborhood in Houston. It's a quiet,
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Speaker 1: very affluent area. It's October, so the weather's finally cooling down,
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Speaker 1: and just before midnight, the silence is violently shattered by
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Speaker 1: this frantic nine to one one.
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Speaker 2: Call, and it's Christa's husband on the line, Lee Gilly.
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Speaker 1: Right, So when the police arrive, you have the red
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Speaker 1: and blue lights flashing against this picture perfect house, and
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Speaker 1: Lee just feeds them this story. He claims that he
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Speaker 1: and Krista had an argument about three hours prior. He
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Speaker 1: says she went to bed, he stayed up, and he
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Speaker 1: tells the officers he just went into the bedroom and
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Speaker 1: found her un responsive. And then, and this is wild,
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Speaker 1: he spontaneously suggests that it was either a suicide or
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Speaker 1: a drug overdose.
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Speaker 2: This sheer audacity of that claim is just staggering, especially
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Speaker 2: when you look at the immediate environment right. The couple's
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Speaker 2: two young children were asleep in their rooms just down
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Speaker 2: the hall wall of this was happening. Yeah, and when
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Speaker 2: this narrative reached Christa's inner circle, I mean, the rejection
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Speaker 2: was absolute. Her friends knew instantly that Lee's story was
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Speaker 2: a complete fabrication. Krista was not a drug user, and
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Speaker 2: she was unequivocally not suicidal.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this for a second. Because he just
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Speaker 1: throws out suicide or overdose to the first responders, Like,
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Speaker 1: how does someone think they could just casually offer up
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Speaker 1: a cause of death and the police will just nod
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Speaker 1: and take notes.
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Speaker 2: Because he was banking entirely on the facade. He thought
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Speaker 2: the image of the grieving, shocked husband in a nice
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Speaker 2: neighborhood would just, you know, override standard procedures like.
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Speaker 1: A poorly constructed house of cards. Right, it just collapses
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Speaker 1: the moment the breeze of basic forensic science.
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Speaker 2: Hits it exactly because forensic science does not care about
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Speaker 2: your zip code or how good of an actor you are.
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Speaker 2: The autopsy results came back and there were zero drugs
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Speaker 2: in her system. The toxicology panel was completely clean.
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Speaker 1: Wow, so what do they find?
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Speaker 2: What the medical examiner did find were injuries consistent with
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Speaker 2: manual strangulation, specifically severe compression of her neck and her
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Speaker 2: upper back.
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Speaker 1: That is just horrific and scientifically, I mean, you can't
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Speaker 1: fake that. You can't disguise strangulation as an overdose.
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Speaker 2: You really can't. In my line of work, we know
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Speaker 2: that strangulation leaves highly specific physiological markers. Emy's look for
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Speaker 2: things like potachual.
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Speaker 1: Hemorrhaging right the blood vessels.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these tiny ruptured blood vessels in the eyes and
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Speaker 2: face caused by restricted blood flow. They look for bruising
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Speaker 2: on the neck or damage to the hyoid bone. When
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Speaker 2: the medical examiner saw those markers, Lee's overdose theory didn't
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Speaker 2: just call apart. It became direct evidence of an active cover.
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Speaker 1: Up, and it only took three days for the police
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Speaker 1: to issue an arrest warrant. But the physical eviden TV
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Speaker 1: actually destroyed his narrative in a second way, revealing this
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Speaker 1: heartbreaking secret that drastically elevated the legal stakes. Yes, the
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Speaker 1: autopsy revealed that Christal was nine weeks pregnant with their
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Speaker 1: third child.
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Speaker 2: It's just devastating. It was so early in the pregnancy
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Speaker 2: that most of her family and friends didn't even know
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Speaker 2: yet the news literally came buried in medical examiner's report.
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Speaker 1: God, it's just awful it is.
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Speaker 2: And legally speaking, this changes absolutely everything for the case.
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Speaker 1: I want to dig into that actually, because why does
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Speaker 1: that specific detail trigger such a massive shift in the charges.
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Speaker 2: It comes down to the Texas penal code. In Texas,
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Speaker 2: the law recognizes an unborn child at any stage of
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Speaker 2: gestation as an individual. Okay, so because the act resulted
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Speaker 2: in the death of two individuals, Christa and her unborn child,
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Speaker 2: the charge is automatically elevated from murder to capital murder.
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Speaker 1: And capital murder brings like the absolute highest stakes imaginable.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, a capital murder conviction in Texas carries only two
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Speaker 2: possible sentences. It's either life in prison without the possibility
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Speaker 2: of parole, or the death penalty. There is literally no
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Speaker 2: middle ground.
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Speaker 1: Wow, it just forces you to look back at this
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Speaker 1: marriage and ask how did this happen? Yeah, because to
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Speaker 1: the outside world, this relationship looked like a fairy tale.
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Speaker 1: If we flash back, they actually met for just one
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Speaker 1: casual date while they were both at.
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Speaker 2: Clemson, right, But it didn't really go anywhere at the time.
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Speaker 1: No Christa spent her twenties building her physical therapy career,
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Speaker 1: traveling and eventually putting down roots in Houston. But then
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Speaker 1: they reconnect years later. Christa established in Texas, Lee's living
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Speaker 1: out in San Diego, and the timeline of their relationship
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Speaker 1: just accelerates at whiplash speeds.
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Speaker 2: It really does. They date long distance for a short time,
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Speaker 2: they're engaged in under a U and Lee moves to
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Speaker 2: Texas to work in it. They get married in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to everyone looking in, they were living the dream.
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Speaker 1: But this is where our deep dive takes a truly
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Speaker 1: dark turn. Fast forward to late twenty twenty four. Lee
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Speaker 1: Gilly is arrested for capital murder. He manages to post
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Speaker 1: a one million dollar bond.
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Speaker 2: Which is a huge amount, but he posts it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's released. He's outfitted with this state mandated GPS
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Speaker 1: ankle monitor and he's a waiting trial. And while he's out,
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Speaker 1: investigators are digging into his electronic devices. What they find
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Speaker 1: is staggering.
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Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is how a digital footprint can entirely
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Speaker 2: reconstruct the hidden psychological reality of a marriage. It's not
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Speaker 2: just about reading texts anymore. As investigators, we use metadata,
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Speaker 2: cloud backups, deleted file retrieval to build a full timeline
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Speaker 2: of behavior, and the crowd documents revealed that Lee was
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Speaker 2: living this meticulously curated double life.
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Speaker 1: A completely double life. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four, which is virtually
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Speaker 2: the entire span of their marriage, he is sending highly
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Speaker 2: inappropriate direct messages to other women on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: But it didn't stop at Instagram though, I mean he
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Speaker 1: was actively soliciting affairs.
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Speaker 2: Yes, investigators linked him to a Reddit account where he
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Speaker 2: openly posted that he was in a quote bored marriage.
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Speaker 2: He was actively making a college age female for a
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Speaker 2: friends with benefits arrangement, and by twenty twenty three, he
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Speaker 2: had escalated to a full blown physical affair with a
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Speaker 2: woman back in San Diego.
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Speaker 1: And we also have to mention, without getting too graphic here,
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Speaker 1: that the court documents reference deeply disturbing comments Lee made
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Speaker 1: about his own young son, words that were so alarming
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Speaker 1: that prosecutors felt compelled to include them in their filings
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Speaker 1: just to establish his state of mind.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really paints a horrifying picture of his internal life.
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Speaker 1: It makes you ask yourself, you know, how does the
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Speaker 1: curated veneer of social media act as a blindfold, Like
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Speaker 1: we all scroll through these perfect family photos completely oblivious
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Speaker 1: to the fact that someone is secretly soliciting affairs online
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Speaker 1: because they're bored.
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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate cognitive dissonance. You have the digital life
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Speaker 2: he presented alongside Christa versus the digital life he was
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Speaker 2: actively constructing in the shadows. But this digital evidence did
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Speaker 2: more than just establish a motive right. It gave prosecutors
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Speaker 2: a seemingly ironclad case. The trial was set for May
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Speaker 2: twenty and with the autopsy, the affair, the Reddit posts,
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Speaker 2: it looked like a very straightforward path to a conviction, which.
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Speaker 1: Brings us to the grand illusion of this whole story.
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Speaker 1: I want to transport you to May twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Chris's friends have built this incredible support network online. They
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Speaker 1: are mobilized. They are ready to show at the courthouse
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Speaker 1: in Houston and face him.
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Speaker 2: They wanted to be there for her exactly.
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Speaker 1: But on May fifth, chaos erupts the judges on the bench.
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Speaker 1: The prosecution is ready, but Lee Gily's chair is empty.
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Speaker 1: He is a total no show.
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Speaker 2: He hadn't just skipped town either, He'd crossed an ocean.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the authorities discovered that. On May third, two days
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Speaker 1: before this crucial court date, Lee landed at the Milan
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Speaker 1: Airport in Italy on an Air Canada flight, and he's
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Speaker 1: standing in front of Italian customs officers attempting to enter
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Speaker 1: the country using a fake Belgian ID under the name
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Speaker 1: Lounjan luc Olivier.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost cinematic in its absurdity, but the
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Speaker 2: border police in Milan are highly trained at document verification.
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Speaker 2: They scan the ID, check the microprinting, and instantly recognize
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Speaker 2: it as a forgery.
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Speaker 1: Thank goodness.
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Speaker 2: Right, So they pull him out of the line, place
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Speaker 2: him in immigration custody, and inform him he's going to
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Speaker 2: be immediately deported back to the US.
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Speaker 1: And here's where it gets really interesting, because facing deportation,
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Speaker 1: Lee just completely drops the fake Belgian alias. He tells
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Speaker 1: the Italian authorities exactly.
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Speaker 2: Who he is, just lays it all out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, I am Lee Gilly, I am facing
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Speaker 1: a capital murder trial in Texas, And in that very
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Speaker 1: breath he formally claims asylum in Italy.
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Speaker 2: And this was not some random act of desperation, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this was a chillingly strategic legal maneuver. But we connect
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Speaker 2: this to the bigger picture of international law. You see
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Speaker 2: exactly what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for us well.
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Speaker 2: Italy, like all member states of the European Union, is
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Speaker 2: bound by the European Convention on Human Rights. Specifically, Article
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Speaker 2: three prohibits the extradition or deportation of any individual to
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Speaker 2: a country where they face a real risk of being
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Speaker 2: subjected to the death penalty.
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Speaker 1: Wait, are you kidding me? So he deliberately chose Italy
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Speaker 1: because he knew his capital murder charge would literally act
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Speaker 1: as a shield.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, he is exploiting international human rights law laws that
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Speaker 2: were designed to protect political dissidents and refugees just to
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Speaker 2: avoid setting foot in a Texas court room.
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Speaker 1: That is, it's like a twisted, high stakes game of
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Speaker 1: international chess where a killer is using the rule book
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Speaker 1: as a weapon. Now I have to point out a
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Speaker 1: crucial legal caveat here for you listening.
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Speaker 2: Point Yeah, the.
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Speaker 1: District Attorney's office in Harris County is currently under a
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Speaker 1: gag order regarding this case, which was issued on May eighth.
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Speaker 1: Because of that, they legally cannot confirm to the public
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Speaker 1: whether they are officially filing the paperwork to seek the
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Speaker 1: death penalty against Lee.
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Speaker 2: Right, But the mere possibility of it, which is automatically
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Speaker 2: baked into that capital murder charge, is enough for Lee
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Speaker 2: to freeze the entile extradition process in Italy.
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Speaker 1: The DA is just in an impossible position here.
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Speaker 2: They are to get him back, they typically have to
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Speaker 2: provide binding diplomatic assurances to Italy that the death penalty
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Speaker 2: will absolutely not be sought or carried out. But navigating
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Speaker 2: that that takes months, sometimes years of bureaucratic red tape
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Speaker 2: between the US State Department and the Italian Ministry of Justice.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but this raises a massive flashing red light of
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Speaker 1: a question. How does a man charged with capital murder
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Speaker 1: who is actively wearing a state mandated GPS ankle monitor
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Speaker 1: board an international flight completely undetected? Yeah, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: an international airport tsa passport control. How does this happen?
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Speaker 2: This is where we transition from a story about domestic
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Speaker 2: deception to a story about catastrophic systemic failure. And the
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Speaker 2: premeditation here is glaring. This wasn't a sudden panic at the.
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Speaker 1: Airport, No, not at all. The paper trail proves he
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Speaker 1: was planning this for a long time. On the exact
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Speaker 1: day of the murder, October seventh, he told his family
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Speaker 1: he was being quote targeted and intended to leave the
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Speaker 1: country to take care of himself, which is.
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Speaker 2: A huge red flag.
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Speaker 1: Immediately exactly, and even worse, the court records show that
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Speaker 1: an early twenty five while out on bond, he messaged
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Speaker 1: that mistress in San Diego. He detailed a highly specific
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Speaker 1: plan to cut off his ankle monitor, fleet to Mexico
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Speaker 1: and even Aster for help securing a fake Mexican ID.
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Speaker 2: Right. He literally wrote down his own escape plan, so
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Speaker 2: the authorities knew or certainly had the evidence to know
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Speaker 2: that he was an extreme flight risk. Yes, yet the
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Speaker 2: mechanism designed to keep him in place completely failed. Let's
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Speaker 2: break down this three day blind spot. Lee cut his
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Speaker 2: ankle monitor on May first.
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Speaker 1: Right, and you would think the second those fibers are severed,
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Speaker 1: alarms go off at a control room, red lights flash,
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Speaker 1: and police are dispatched to his last known GPS ping immediately.
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Speaker 2: That's the Hollywood version of an ankle monitor. The reality
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Speaker 2: is much bleaker. These GPS monitors are essentially just cell
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Speaker 2: phones strapped to a leg. They ping cellular towers to
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Speaker 2: update location data. Okay, when the strap is cut, it
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Speaker 2: does send a tamper alert, but that alert doesn't go
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Speaker 2: straight to a swat team. It goes to a server
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Speaker 2: which updates a dashboard monitored by pre trial services.
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Speaker 1: So it's basically just a notification popping up on a
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Speaker 1: computer screen exactly.
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Speaker 2: I like to compare it to a smoke alarm in
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Speaker 2: an empty house. It's making a lot of noise, but
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Speaker 2: if the house is empty, or if the person monitoring
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Speaker 2: the alarm is just totally overwhelmed, the house still burns down.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Pre trial services are historically underfunded and understaffed. A single
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Speaker 2: officer might be monitoring hundreds of defendants at once. They
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Speaker 2: get constant false alarms from low batteries, lost GPS signals,
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Speaker 2: when someone goes into a concrete building, or minor curfew violations.
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Speaker 2: It creates this massive alert fatigue.
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Speaker 1: Which means a legitimate strap cut alert gets buried in
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Speaker 1: a sea of low battery notifications. Because listen to this,
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Speaker 1: Local authorities took absolutely no action on Lee Gilly until
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Speaker 1: May fourth, three full days.
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Speaker 2: Later, and even then it wasn't the Ankle Monitor company
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Speaker 2: or local authorities who initiated the man hunt No.
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Speaker 1: The only reason they realized he was gone on May
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Speaker 1: fourth was because the United States Marshals recis an alert
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Speaker 1: from Interpol. Interpol had to call Texas to tell them
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Speaker 1: that their capital murder suspect was sitting in an attention
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Speaker 1: room in Milan with a fake ID. It's unbelievable Texas
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Speaker 1: didn't find him. Italy caught him and told Texas.
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Speaker 2: This raises an important question, what is the actual utility
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Speaker 2: of these monitoring systems. We rely on pre trial services
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Speaker 2: to manage these individuals. The public has sold this idea
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Speaker 2: that a GPS monitor is a high tech ball.
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Speaker 1: And chain right, that it keeps us safe.
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Speaker 2: But if a device can just be destroyed and the
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Speaker 2: monitoring agency doesn't react for seventy two hours, it's not
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Speaker 2: a restraint, It's just a heavily delayed notification system.
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Speaker 1: It completely deconstructs our trust and the mechanisms meant to
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Speaker 1: keep us safe. And you know, looking at this impartially,
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Speaker 1: this isn't just an isolated incident. It's becoming a severe
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Speaker 1: crisis in the area.
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Speaker 2: Very much so.
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Speaker 1: Just days after Lee Gilly vanished, another murder defendant in
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Speaker 1: Harris County named Walter Posos, who was also out on bond.
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Speaker 1: He cut his ankle monitor and fled right before his
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Speaker 1: trial too.
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Speaker 2: It highlights a structural weakness that is being actively exploited right.
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Speaker 1: Now, and it has sparked a massive public debate. We
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Speaker 1: are seeing intense reactions across the board. The director of
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Speaker 1: Houston Crime Stoppers has publicly raised severe alarms about the
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Speaker 1: sheer volume of these monitor violations happening locally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are realizing the scope of the problem, and at.
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Speaker 1: The state level, Texas Governor Greg Abbott posted on social
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Speaker 1: media pointing out that murder suspects disappearing before trial happens
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Speaker 1: too often and he's calling for stronger legislation to combat it. So,
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Speaker 1: regardless of where anyone falls on the political spectrum, the
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Speaker 1: community is collectively realizing that the safety net has massive,
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Speaker 1: massive holes in.
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Speaker 2: It, and while the system debates how to fix itself,
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Speaker 2: the victims' families are left to just navigate the wreckage.
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Speaker 1: Which brings us to the agonizing state of limbo we
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Speaker 1: are in today. The murder trial for Illegally is completely
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Speaker 1: off the docket. The extradition battles between the US and
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Speaker 1: Italy are looming, and.
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Speaker 2: Like we said that could take years.
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Speaker 1: Years. Yeah, and Christa's loved ones they can't speak out
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Speaker 1: directly because of the gag order, but they are refusing
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Speaker 1: to be silenced. They run the Justice for Christa social
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Speaker 1: media pages. Every single week, thousands of followers from Texas
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Speaker 1: to Australia post photos wearing purple to honor her and
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Speaker 1: to spread awareness about domestic violence.
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Speaker 2: They are actively ensuring that her memory and the reality
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Speaker 2: of who she was is not overshadowed by the spectacle
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Speaker 2: of her husband's escape.
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Speaker 1: So what does this all mean. It means the community
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Speaker 1: is showing unimaginable resilience in the face of a broken process.
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Speaker 1: They are holding the line demanding justice while the bureaucracy
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Speaker 1: just grinds away.
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Speaker 2: It's a profound testament to Christa's impact on the world
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Speaker 2: that her friends are fighting this fiercely for her.
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Speaker 1: It absolutely is, and it leaves you with a deeply
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Speaker 1: unsettling reality to confront. We started this deep dive looking
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Speaker 1: at a quiet, perfect neighborhood, the kind of place where
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Speaker 1: you lock your doors at night and feel totally.
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Speaker 2: Secure, the illusion of the secure facade exactly.
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Speaker 1: So I want you to think about this as you
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Speaker 1: go about your day. If a heavily monitored capital murder suspect,
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Speaker 1: a man with a highly publicized, digitally documented a skate
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Speaker 1: plan can literally cut off a state issued tracking device,
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Speaker 1: vanish into thin air for three days, and cross international
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Speaker 1: borders completely undetected. How many invisible, untracked dangers are slipping
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Speaker 1: through the cracks of our local justice systems every single day,
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Speaker 1: right outside our doors while we sleep.