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President Trump announces new shipyards in Ohio and California · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: evening grace America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Welcome to the program
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  Speaker 1: am I blessed to have a soapbox today. I am
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  Speaker 1: in Maine for the week. I came up to cover
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  Speaker 1: this week, especially the Collins-Troy Jackson race, because you can't
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  Speaker 1: really cover a race from the Beltway, because you'll get polling,
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  Speaker 1: but you won't be able to talk to any voters.
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  Speaker 1: You won't be able to see local television and local radio,
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  Speaker 1: and I have been able to watch. The Guardians beat
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox in Game 5, and I saw about
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  Speaker 1: 1,000 ads for Susan Collins and 100 ads for Troy Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: And then last night, Guardians beat the Rays at Orange
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  Speaker 1: Julius Field in Tampa, and I want you to know,
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  Speaker 1: To my audience in Tampa, I love you. You know
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  Speaker 1: I go down there all the time, both to Tampa
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  Speaker 1: and Sarasota. And Mike Gallagher makes his radio home in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to get you mad, but Guardians owned
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  Speaker 1: you last night. They just owned you. Spotted you two runs.
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  Speaker 1: Foster Griffin gave you two runs in the first inning.
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  Speaker 1: And the Guardians still stole game number one. So this
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  Speaker 1: is great. Hope they can get two and win it
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  Speaker 1: in Cleveland after the day break from tonight. And they
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  Speaker 1: got Parker Messing on the... Mount tonight. Didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: good run against the White Sox last time out. I
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  Speaker 1: hope he has his nasty stuff tonight. But that's baseball. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to cover the race. You've got to see
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  Speaker 1: what the advertising. Susan Collins is going to win, and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be easy. That's just my assessment of
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  Speaker 1: talking to people. I mean, 45% maybe will vote for
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  Speaker 1: Troy Jackson, though he is quite easily the worst candidate
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  Speaker 1: of the year. Not the most radical. That's Abdul El-Sayed.
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  Speaker 1: That's the dangerous one. That's the one you cannot trust.
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  Speaker 1: Tallarico is weird in Texas. And I think Ken Paxton
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  Speaker 1: will beat him, though it's going to be closer than
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  Speaker 1: I'd like. As you know, I endorse John Cornyn. I lost.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm on in Houston and San Antonio and
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  Speaker 1: Dallas and McAllen and all over Texas. I'm here to
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  Speaker 1: tell you, go vote for Ken Paxton. I'm a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: I want the Senate to be controlled by Republicans. But
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  Speaker 1: we're spending a lot of money down there. We're being
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party. But up here, they're spending a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money, and Susan Collins is going to win because
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  Speaker 1: she brings home what Maine needs, whether it's for the
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  Speaker 1: agricultural industry, the fishing industry, the lobster industry, or the
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  Speaker 1: defense industry, including a second destroyer at Bath Iron Works
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  Speaker 1: is in the appropriations bill. And that's great for Maine.
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  Speaker 1: But the ads, the ads, I don't know who Troy
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  Speaker 1: Jackson's ad maker is. They ought to be fired. They
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  Speaker 1: feature exclusively older white women. And I mean, like, exclusively
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  Speaker 1: older white women talking about how bad Susan Collins is
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  Speaker 1: and how great Troy Jackson is. Look, if that's the
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  Speaker 1: demo you need and you're not trying to get men
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  Speaker 1: at all, you've given up. And Medicare for all, you're
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  Speaker 1: bringing in Bernie Sanders ads? This is terrible. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not why I need my soapbox. I need my soapbox
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  Speaker 1: because in the middle of this, doing my journalism, I
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  Speaker 1: call it, I was invited by a Bowdoin alum to
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  Speaker 1: go down to Bowdoin and attend a lecture today, which
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  Speaker 1: I did. It was very fine by Tom Putnam, who
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  Speaker 1: used to be the director of the Kennedy Library, and
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  Speaker 1: then he ran the National Archives Record Administration Presidential Library
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  Speaker 1: Branch for a while, and by presidential historian at Rutgers,
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  Speaker 1: at Bowdoin, Andrew Rudolovich. I hope I say that right, Professor.
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  Speaker 1: And by and large, they were very fine presenters. by
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  Speaker 1: and large. With Mr. Putnam, there were some errors. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a specialist in Nixon. I built the Nixon Library
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  Speaker 1: as their first executive director. I went back in 2019
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  Speaker 1: and served another three years until we could get Jim
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  Speaker 1: Byron ready to take over the library. He is now
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  Speaker 1: the executive director of the library. But I've lived the
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  Speaker 1: library since groundbreaking in 1989, right through today. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: on the board. And so I listen with a particular
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  Speaker 1: ear and a lot of experience. to statements made about
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  Speaker 1: the Nixon Library. And there were many errors made. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're not big errors. For example, Mr. Putnam
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  Speaker 1: said that the Nixon Library has on it Richard Nixon's birthplace,
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  Speaker 1: which was brought to the library site. That's simply not true.
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  Speaker 1: The library went to his birthplace. It's in the same spot.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, we had to pay $ 900, 000 in $ 1989 to
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  Speaker 1: lift that house off of its original foundations built by
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  Speaker 1: Frank Nixon to make sure that they could support traffic.
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  Speaker 1: It's got the original furniture in it. You look out
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  Speaker 1: of the top window onto the Presidential Library and onto
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  Speaker 1: the graves of President Nixon. It's really one of the
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  Speaker 1: finest examples of marrying a Presidential Library with a sense
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  Speaker 1: of place. Like FDRs, like Ikes and Abilene, it's got
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  Speaker 1: a great sense of place. So that's a mistake. He
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  Speaker 1: made a mistake about the handoff of the library as
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  Speaker 1: well to the National Archives and Record Administration. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a more serious mistake. I won't get into it
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  Speaker 1: because he's just wrong. And then he spoke about how
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  Speaker 1: Tim Natale had to come in and tear out the
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  Speaker 1: Watergate exhibit and put in one that was accurate. That's
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  Speaker 1: simply wrong in a big way. Richard Nixon designed the
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  Speaker 1: original Watergate exhibit. to explain how he felt about it,
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  Speaker 1: not to give you every detail about it, but was
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  Speaker 1: constructed as a tunnel. Mr. Naftali, who I believe deceived
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  Speaker 1: the Nixon family and foundation when he interviewed for the job.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he out and out deceived. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a presidential historian. He's not nothing. But he's made a
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  Speaker 1: career out of having torn out the Watergate exhibit and
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  Speaker 1: put in his vision of Watergate, which is wrong. But, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a historian, Would you rather see Richard Nixon's
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  Speaker 1: understanding of Watergate at the Nixon Library and then go
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  Speaker 1: critique it in a book or someplace else? Or would
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  Speaker 1: you like to see Tim Naftali from nowhere doing nothing
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  Speaker 1: forever and what he thinks about Watergate? Because that's what
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  Speaker 1: we ended up with. And then they were wrong about
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  Speaker 1: the redesign of the library. But that's small stuff. What
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  Speaker 1: I really objected to, though, was Professor Rudolovich, who was
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  Speaker 1: pretty good until he got to the end. He said,
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  Speaker 1: are the libraries ideological? and he said, most of them
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  Speaker 1: are not, but the Nixon Library, that's the most ideological
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  Speaker 1: library that there is. Oh, if you want to see
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  Speaker 1: all the Fox News people, you go there. That didn't
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  Speaker 1: say anything, because I'm a guest. I'm not invited, didn't
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  Speaker 1: introduce myself to the speakers, didn't stand up in the
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  Speaker 1: back and say, that's just flat out wrong, Professor. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: with a best-selling book, and I can just name you,
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  Speaker 1: Admiral Stavridis, Jim Matt, I can go on forever. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: If Brett Baer has a book, we want him to
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  Speaker 1: do a book talk at the library, as does every
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  Speaker 1: presidential library, because books mean events. Events mean gate, means
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  Speaker 1: repeat visitors. You want your library to be seen and
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  Speaker 1: experienced by the public. It is not ideological in the least.
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  Speaker 1: It is driven by attendance. It is driven by the
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  Speaker 1: public in Southern California, by the friends of the library.
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  Speaker 1: It is driven that we've had like The 50th anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of the release of the POW dinner. That was done
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  Speaker 1: on the 40th and on the 45th and on the
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  Speaker 1: 50th anniversary. We did the 50th anniversary of the landing
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  Speaker 1: on the moon by Buzz Aldrin. We had Buzz come
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  Speaker 1: out and do an event. These are not partisan things.
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  Speaker 1: And to simply say that is simply wrong. Why do
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  Speaker 1: I tell you this? Everything is biased. I am biased.
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  Speaker 1: Today's speakers were biased. Everybody you see on every television
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  Speaker 1: network every day or hear on every radio station every
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  Speaker 1: day is biased. The question is, are they correct in
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  Speaker 1: their factual assertions? And I believe I am when I
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  Speaker 1: make a factual assertion. And do they know what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about? For example, the professor, he said he'd read
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  Speaker 1: the OLC opinion. I have not. But I guarantee you,
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  Speaker 1: unless you're a fairly serious lawyer, you have no idea
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  Speaker 1: what that OLC opinion means. And by the way, we
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  Speaker 1: have no idea whether it's right. There are major constitutional
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  Speaker 1: issues with the Presidential Records Act, including whether or not
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  Speaker 1: they can simply impose upon the executive, the congressional version
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  Speaker 1: of their papers. There are lots of problems with the
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  Speaker 1: Presidential Records Act. They did not mention that when Richard
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  Speaker 1: Nixon's papers were seized, eventually the federal government had to
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  Speaker 1: pay for them a lot of money because they were
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  Speaker 1: his property. They were seized by the government and condemned.
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  Speaker 1: And I cannot begin to tell you how much bias
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  Speaker 1: there was, but it's quiet bias. And I just want
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  Speaker 1: the audience, especially the C-SPAN audience, to be aware. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: on every platform saying everything has got bias. They have
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  Speaker 1: a POV, a point of view. The question is, are
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  Speaker 1: they correct in their factual assertions? Do they have the
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  Speaker 1: authority or the experience from which to speak? Do they
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  Speaker 1: know of which to speak? I would never question Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Putnam on the Kennedy library. He ran it, talked about IMP.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting. I didn't know that Jackie Kennedy had
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  Speaker 1: selected him because of his age, which was young and
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  Speaker 1: JFK had been young. There's stuff I learned. So on that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to him. When I talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Nixon library, you should listen to me and not
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  Speaker 1: people who say it's wildly ideological. It's not. C-SPAN has
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  Speaker 1: done so many events from the Nixon library. Thanks to
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  Speaker 1: Sam and Brian Lamb and Peter Slin and Steve Scully.
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  Speaker 1: I just, And Howard Mortman, thank you. And I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: to have C-SPAN with us today on the Salem News
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  Speaker 1: Channel and the Salem Radio Network. Stay tuned. Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. That, of course, is John Denver's Country Roads.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not playing it for Senator Shelley Moore Capito
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  Speaker 1: because it's about West Virginia. I'm playing it because it's
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  Speaker 1: the walk-up music for Chase DeLauder, Cleveland Guardian. who got
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians on the scoreboard last night with a bullet
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  Speaker 1: home run down at Orange Julius Field in Tampa. Senator Capito,
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  Speaker 1: did you know that the heart of the Cleveland Guardians
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  Speaker 1: lineup is a West Virginia kid, Chase DeLauder?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Chase DeLauder, I know the name for sure,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm happy he uses Country Roads as his walk-up.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I use in my congressional softball game walk-up.
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  Speaker 4: Not exactly the same.
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  Speaker 1: Did you line a 400-foot home run to start the
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  Speaker 1: game this year?
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  Speaker 2: Not exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's good to have you, Senator, for the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of our new audience today. We're on C-SPAN this week,
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  Speaker 1: and we're glad to have them. Senator Shelley Moore Capito
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  Speaker 1: has been representing West Virginia for a long time, first
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  Speaker 1: in the House, then in the Senate. She's up for
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  Speaker 1: reelection this year. She's going to win, but Rachel Anderson,
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening, I'll gladly have you as my guest
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  Speaker 1: to fulfill any equal-time obligation you feel is incumbent on it.
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  Speaker 1: But Senator Capito, I can't imagine West Virginians are unhappy
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  Speaker 1: with you. You are the hardest working, the equal of
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  Speaker 1: any hardest working senator. How's the campaign going?
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you. Campaign's going great.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was out and about earlier today on
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  Speaker 3: a water project and an EMS project. We'll be going
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  Speaker 3: to a GOP picnic tonight all over the state, just
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  Speaker 3: listening to people and reminding them of the relationship that
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  Speaker 3: we have. It's been over a long period of time,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, and how effective I think I've been
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  Speaker 3: for them by listening. So just want to remind people,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't really know I'm on the ballot,
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  Speaker 3: so I have to keep reminding them, yes, yes, I am,
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  Speaker 3: and it's important.
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  Speaker 1: I had to check. All right. So I have Senator
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  Speaker 1: Cotton on often. I had to check and see. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's running against Holly Softner and he's going to win
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  Speaker 1: like you by 20 points. But I still have to check.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, you do have an opponent. It's Rachel Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be very nice to her. But is she a
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  Speaker 1: Medicare-for-all nutter like El-Sayed and Troy Jackson in Maine and
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  Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota and other ones? Is she a
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  Speaker 1: Medicare-for-all person?
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  Speaker 3: As far as I can see, yes. She's very liberal.
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  Speaker 3: She's from Morgantown, which is– if we have any pockets
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  Speaker 3: of liberal thought, it would be obviously where your university is.
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  Speaker 3: And so she's definitely a very liberal thinker and would
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  Speaker 3: be right down the line with those candidates for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So, Senator, I'm in Maine this week. I'm covering the
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  Speaker 1: Collins-Jackson race. Oh, nice. I came up here because I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine not voting for Susan Collins if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Mainer and you've got the chairwoman of the Appropriations Committee.
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  Speaker 1: You're also an appropriator. Can you explain to people what
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  Speaker 1: appropriations done? It's not the budget committee. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: armed services, but everything depends on your committee or it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: The money doesn't get spent. It does.
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  Speaker 3: It's everything that is spent in a year. It's not
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  Speaker 3: long term programs for five years. It's everything that's spent
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  Speaker 3: in a year. For instance, highway money. That comes in
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  Speaker 3: and we appropriate a certain amount to be spent in
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  Speaker 3: a year or the same thing for awards for water
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  Speaker 3: or sewer or something like that. So you got to
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  Speaker 3: think of it if if you or NIH funding is
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  Speaker 3: another one that I have oversight over that we go
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  Speaker 3: go through every single year. So it's absolutely critical infrastructure
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  Speaker 3: for the government. It's how many people are going to
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  Speaker 3: be looking at your Social Security claim, your veterans claim.
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  Speaker 3: So every government employee is going to be impacted by this,
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  Speaker 3: but also a lot of government programs, how much money
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  Speaker 3: goes to education or to the Department of War, what
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  Speaker 3: kind of raises our servicemen and women are going to get.
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  Speaker 3: It is enormous who's working at the IRS. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it just goes on and on. And it's huge, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not Social Security, it's not Medicaid, it's not Medicare.
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  Speaker 3: Those are on auto spend, and that's part of the problem.
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  Speaker 3: This is just the yearly appropriations for every function of
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  Speaker 3: government you can think of.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it matters, especially on matters of national security and defense.
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  Speaker 1: Last night in Ohio, President Trump made John Huston and
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  Speaker 1: every Buckeye very happy by announcing the new submarine parts
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  Speaker 1: facility will be in Cleveland on Lake Erie. That's very
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  Speaker 1: good for Ohio. But do you think decisions like that
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  Speaker 1: are made with an eye on appropriators like the Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: new submarine facility? That's a blue state. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: clearly not driven by Republican politics.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it's, you know, we have left shipbuilding
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  Speaker 3: go in this country forever. for decades. We lost our capacity.
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  Speaker 3: We lost our will to build. We didn't think we'd
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  Speaker 3: need them. We thought it would be the old way
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  Speaker 3: of doing things. And so we got caught. And so
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  Speaker 3: he's trying to revive our shipbuilding capacities in whatever state
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  Speaker 3: can do it. I think Ohio's well-placed. They have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of, obviously, steel. We have steel in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: We can ship that way. But also, you've got to
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  Speaker 3: have a coast. You've got to have a waterway. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense. And so Baltimore would be a natural
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  Speaker 3: there as well. I know they do a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it in Maine. They do a lot of it in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 3: another blue state. So, no, these are great jobs and
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  Speaker 3: they are critical to our national security.
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  Speaker 1: When we get down to the short strokes on appropriation,
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  Speaker 1: how much is done off camera with your Democratic colleagues?
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  Speaker 1: I think you've got the reputation, as does Senator Collins,
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  Speaker 1: of working well across the aisle. How much is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get staff, get out of the room. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: make some decisions here between us senators.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we usually come in at the end because
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  Speaker 3: our staffs are coming to us individually saying, what about this?
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  Speaker 4: What about that?
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  Speaker 3: They know that, for instance, one of the areas I'm
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  Speaker 3: really interested in, obviously, is the addiction crisis or Alzheimer's
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  Speaker 3: funding or, you know, the trio programs that we have
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  Speaker 3: in our colleges and universities for first time college goers,
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  Speaker 3: because that hits my state. And then I have Tammy Baldwin,
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  Speaker 3: who has other interests. And I'm not going to get
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  Speaker 3: every one of my interests bumped up, and she's not either.
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  Speaker 3: But what we do agree on is getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: programs that are ineffective. We might disagree a little bit
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  Speaker 3: on which ones those are, but trying to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of a program in government is like trying to cut
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  Speaker 3: off your right arm.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy.
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  Speaker 3: And so we will do that. And then we will
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: sit in a room and get down to the real
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: nitty gritty where it's very tough decisions and we'll have
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to give and take a little bit. And that's what
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: governing is about.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So, Senator, I want to close by talking about data centers.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I am a big believer in them because I don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: think you can stop the future. Be like Henry Ford saying,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to build car plants because people don't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: want car tire marks on their driveway. However, I understand
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: some people want data centers and other people don't. How
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: is the Senate going to appropriate? And what does West
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Virginia think about data centers? I would think jobs like Warren, Ohio,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: we'd want those jobs.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Well, you would think that, Hugh.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You would think that, you know, and plus coming from
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: an energy state to see how critical it is and
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: to generate the energy to get the energy where it
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: needs to be. But we've had some pushback, and I
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: think most of the pushback has been because whosoever has
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: been coming in has had a bit of an arrogance
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: about them.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got a lot of jobs.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I've got a lot of money. Of course you're going
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to want me. No, I'm not going to want you
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: if you're going to raise my power bill. So explain
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: that to me. No, I'm not going to want you
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: if you're going to do something to my water. So
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: explain that to me. And so basically what should have
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: been done on the front end with local involvement has
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: been missing, and now it's being required. And the other
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: thing is in my permitting bill that we're hoping to
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: get across finish line in November, we have the paycheck
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: or the Ratepayers Fairness Act that says if you're a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: data center, you're coming in, you're a big power user,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: you have to pay for your power. Local ratepayers are
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: not going to be paying for that. And that I
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: think is the president's put that into action, but we're
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: going to put that into law.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That is a great thing, and we need that permitting
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: reform bill very much. We do. And not just for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the ratepayers' part, but for expediting necessary infrastructure in the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: United States. Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, always
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: good to see you, Senator. Thank you for stopping by.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Back to the campaign trail with you all. I'll be
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: right back, America. Stay tuned.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Iran is a failed country.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: They have no economy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: They have 300 percent inflation.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: They have no money.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: They're not paying their troops. They're not paying their— they're
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: not paying anybody.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: We'll make a decision on Iran, Bernie.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: And we have— and we control the Hormuz Strait.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: And a lot of oil is coming out of the
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Hormuz Strait. The Press Well, Mr. President, are you concerned—
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: The President Who's.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Asking that question?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: The Press Down here. Have you made a decision on
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: striking the Houthis? The President.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: They're behaving very badly. What are you going to do
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: about that? I mean, if I told you I made
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: a decision, that wouldn't be good. The Hooties have acted
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: very badly.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, President Trump at the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: White House lawn earlier today. I'm joined now by Alex Gray.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Alex is the CEO of American Global Strategy. He is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: also the former chief of staff at the National Security
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Council in the first Trump term. He stayed in the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: private sector in the second Trump term, but he knows
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: everyone over at the White House. Alex, when you were
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: chief of staff of the NSC and the president would
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: wander out the West Wing exit and throw off some
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: comments like that, what was your day like after that happened?
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Well, it's always a little added excitement when the president
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: goes out there, Hugh. I actually had a little bit
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: of a different view than some of my first term colleagues,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: which was the group that gets the most, kind of
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: comes out of those impromptu Trump addresses, that ends up
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: having the hardest time are the adversaries because they never
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: know what to make of it. It sends them into
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: absolute conniption fits. They don't know if he's signaling something.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: They don't know if he's doing a psychological operation. Um,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I actually found that as much as our, particularly our
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: European allies could be a little cantankerous after an impromptu
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Trump talk. I thought the, the fits it tied the
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: ally of the, uh, adversaries in was worth every second
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: All right. Now, Alex, um, when he comes out and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: says the Houthis are behaving very badly and we have
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a big decision coming up on Iran, what does Alex
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Gray hear? What do you tell your clients in American
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Global Strategies is coming after you hear that?
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Well, I always start with the truth and the fact
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: that a lot of our media friends want to ignore you,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: which you know very well. The president, I think, hit
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the highlights that what we are doing with Iran on
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: the economic front is having extraordinary success. I mean, last
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I checked, it was now Weimar Republic levels of inflation.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're looking at, I think it was three
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: million euros to the real. We're looking at supply chain efforts.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: You know, they tried to diversify their supply chains to
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Central Asia. And one of the great unheralded efforts of
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: the Trump administration was to work with Azerbaijan and Turkey
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: and the Central Asian republics and Pakistan and basically shut
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: down Iran's ability to move their supply chains mid-conflict. We're
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: getting out as much oil as we did prior to
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: the conflict. We're reducing their ability to trade on the
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: international markets. Scott Besson's economic warfare through sanctions of third-party
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: banks is working. It's unprecedented. All that to say, what
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: we are doing to Iran on the economic front is
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: causing them to try and lash out with their proxies.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: They're using the Houthis because that's really one of the
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: few tools they have left. Look, I think the president's
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: likely to do something on the larger Iran front after
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: the election that's probably relatively narrowly targeted because the Iranians
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: are already suffering extraordinary losses that we've imposed. And what
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: we need to be doing now, Hugh, is helping see
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: this through, get beyond the American political calendar and allow
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the economic pressure to play out. It doesn't require going
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: back to epic fury. It requires probably some strikes on
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: capabilities that they've reconstituted in the last couple of months.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: But we're on a very good trajectory, regardless of how
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: the American domestic political calendar may look.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Alex Gray, I agree with all that. Now I want
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to go back to last night. You and your colleague
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: at AGS, Ambassador Robert O'Brien, long been proponents of a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: great upsizing of the United States Navy, especially our underwater fleet.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Here's what the president told an Ohio rally in my
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: home area of the Steel Valley last night, cut number two.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: Today I'm also pleased to announce that the Department of War...
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: has officially selected the new home of the U.S. Submarine
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: Component Repair Center, a big.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Deal that everybody wanted, and it's going to be right
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: here in Ohio, in Cleveland, Ohio.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Big deal.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: These guys, that guy, This massive 46,000-square-foot facility will manufacture, repair,
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: and maintain key parts for virtually all new and existing submarines.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: By the way, we make the greatest submarines anywhere in
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: the world.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm going back to Alex. Our friend, Captain Jerry Hendricks, Dr.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Jerry Hendricks, who's over there at OMB now with Russ Vogt,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the director. They've been working on shipbuilding and submarines for
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a long time. I think last night's announcement is the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: culmination of a long-needed... refocusing on our underwater fleet. What
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: do you say?
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely critical. And as you know, Hugh, the
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: kind of our comparative advantage in naval warfare, going back
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: to World War II, has been the undersea domain. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: it's an area where we continue to have, despite all
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: the progress the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy has made,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: we continue to have supremacy in the undersea domain, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: we have to keep it that way. But I would
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: add one other piece of this that doesn't get enough
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: play and that Director Vought and Dr. Hendricks deserve huge
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: credit for. We think of the U.S. defense industrial base
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: and shipbuilding industrial base as the Atlantic and the Pacific
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: with a little bit potentially of the Gulf of America.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: We forget that we had the entire Great Lakes region
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: that for decades, centuries, was a pivotal part of the
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: American naval defense industrial base, shipbuilding maritime defense industrial base.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: We made icebreakers there. We made barges. We made Coast
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Guard vessels. We made container ships. We did so much
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: with our Great Lakes industrial base, and we allowed it
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: to atrophy in the middle of the 20th century, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: we are finally reviving it. So as important as the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: undersea component here, Hugh, is, I think adding a fourth coast, essentially,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: to the American defense industrial base is going to be
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: remembered as a major innovation.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You know, Alex, I listened to a book recently, The
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Gales of November by John Bacon, which is about the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. And that occurred, I think,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in 74, maybe 75. And they go deep into the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Great Lakes traffic and the Great Lakes cargo and the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: freshwater fleet. It's a different world, but the capacity to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: build ships is there. It's still in Green Bay. It's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: still in Cleveland. It's still in Ashtabula. Do you think
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: we'll maintain that focus beyond the Trump administration?
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: One of the great things about this re-industrialization, and we're
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: talking about shipbuilding, but I think it's beyond that. It's semiconductors,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: it's pharmaceutical API, it's printed circuit boards, it's so many
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: different things. But the great thing about this re-industrialization is
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be partisan. It doesn't have to
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: be conservative versus progressive. You can come at this as
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: you and I do from re-industrialization is in many ways
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: a national security imperative. That also has some significant jobs
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: and other attended benefits. But if you're a progressive Democrat,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: I would come at this and say, look, these are
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: in union states. These are potentially very lucrative union jobs.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: This is look at this from a wage and cost
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: of living standpoint. There is no reason that this has
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: to be a partisan issue. And I hope for the
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: sake of the country and our workers that whoever the
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: next president is embraces it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Well said, Alex. And that goes for the new submarine
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: facility in Baltimore, which is a blue state, as well
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: as in Cleveland, which is a red state. It's got
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to be in every state that has access to clear water.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Alex Gray, CEO of American Global Strategies. Thank you, my friend.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned, America.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I'm doing a tour right now, and I'm doing rallies.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: The level of enthusiasm for the Republican Party is way up,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: not just where I'm doing them. For instance, John Huston,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I heard he went up nine points yesterday. I did
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: the rally for him, and he went up— he's going
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: to be a great senator. John Huston went up nine
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: points yesterday, Peter. So I'm doing rallies. I'm right now
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: going to Alaska. to try and help Dan Sullivan. That's
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: a long way away, and I would only do it
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: if I thought he was good, and he's very good.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, America. That's President Trump on the White House
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: West exit today. I'm joined now by David Drucker, David M. Drucker,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: on ex-Bloomberg opinion columnist, senior writer at The Dispatch. David,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it is a long way. Richard Nixon probably lost the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: 1960 election because he kept the vow to campaign in
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: all 50 states, but Dan Sullivan is important. He's a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: little bit behind in public polls, but... It's just a bad–
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it's impossible to pull Alaska. How important is an actual
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: on-the-ground presidential visit to Dan Sullivan?
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: Well, we're going to find out. I mean, part of
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: the trick when you're the party under fire in a
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: midterm election is you're under fire because there's a voter blockade.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: or a building backlash of some sort against the sitting
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: president of your party. And so in certain instances, a
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: presidential visit can be very helpful. In other instances, it can't.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: And we can look at some of these red states
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: where states that vote Republican in presidential elections consistently and
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: talk about a built-in structural advantage and a visit from
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: President Trump could help juice turnout, could help remind voters
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: that usually vote for him why they usually vote Republican,
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: and therefore be helpful. On the other hand, look, a
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: lot of these races are competitive in red states because
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: voters are unhappy with the president, because some Republican voters
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: are unhappy with the president. And so this is something
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: that we're going to know more of after the election.
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: And we don't quite have the answers today.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So, David, I'm in Maine this week. I'm covering Susan
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Collins versus Troy Jackson. And what you do when you
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: parachute in is you get overwhelmed by the local media.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Collins must be outspending Troy Jackson five to one, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: his ads are terrible. Have you got any read on that?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I can't see how she loses this.
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: I can always see how anybody loses. That's sort of
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: a hallmark of this political era. Hugh, I mean, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: I mean, said that we know Susan Collins is battle
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: tested and she regularly outperforms expectations, right? I mean, she's
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: sort of like the blue whale for Democrats if they
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: can only get her in a state that regularly votes
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: Democrat for president. I would say that if you look
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: at the data and if you look at the way
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: this race is going, she's in a good position to win,
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: but that doesn't mean she's going to win. She's running
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: in possibly the worst political environment for a Republican in
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: a blue state that we've had since 2006. And it's
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: just very difficult. I think she's helped by the fact
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: that Troy Jackson is not as good of a candidate
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: as Graham Platner was. Now, I mean Graham Platner before
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: we realized, you know, what a creep he was. But
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: he was particularly talented as a politician. And had he
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: had you know, a normal resume without all of the
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: serious flaws, there's a good chance she would have been
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: in a lot deeper trouble now than she is against
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: Troy Jackson. But I wouldn't make any conclusions based on
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: past history just because we've seen, you know, sometimes eventually
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: a politician's luck runs out. That's what happened to Sherrod
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: Brown in 2024 in Ohio. All right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I want to close with El Sayed in Michigan. Mike
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Rogers got a bunch of tough new ads out aimed
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: directly at the black community in Detroit. And now the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Senate Leadership Fund is hitting al-Sayed on accepting money from,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: dirty money, and they go through the care donations and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: all the third-party donation and the intimation that the Muslim
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Brotherhood is involved. Is that effective, or does that hurt?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm of two minds about this.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: First of all, it's very clear, and I've been in
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: Michigan and I've covered Abdul al-Sayed, that he's underperforming most
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: Democratic Senate candidates in competitive races. He's underperforming Jocelyn Benson,
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: who's a Democratic nominee for governor in Michigan, and she's
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: on track to win and win reasonably comfortably. And the
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: fact that his race is in question means that he's
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: beatable and means that, you know, as good of a
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: politician as he is, and I think he's a great
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: political athlete, he's.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Got serious vulnerabilities.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Sometimes when your advertising or your messaging is too intense,
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: I don't want to say too extreme, but when it
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: seems to voters to be too far out there or
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: too aggressive, they can tune it out and say, look,
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: I know he's not perfect. I don't even know if
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: I like him. I mean, come on, that's just beyond
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: the pale. President Trump has benefited from advertising like.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: That in the past.
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: So we'll see if this ad campaign works.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: David M. Drucker on X. Thank you for joining me.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Bloomberg opinion columnist, senior writer at The Dispatch. Always worth
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: talking to David about politics. Thank you, David. Stay tuned.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Byron York is next. on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined now by Byron York. Byron is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: with the Washington Examiner, lead political columnist there, senior analyst,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: also a Fox News contributor. Byron, I'd like to play
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: for you a couple of ads that Mike Rogers is
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: using in Michigan and the Senate Leadership Fund is using
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in Michigan. Get your reaction. Here is the latest one
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: from the Senate Leadership Fund, which dropped this afternoon, cut
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: number 16. This campaign will take on the powerful money
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: out of politics. Really?
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: Then where's Abdul's money coming from? Six radical extremist groups
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: have already backed al-Sayed with over a million dollars. This
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: Islamic extremist group gave Abdul 400,000. Courts proved they were
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: tied to Hamas. Read it for yourself. It's leaders, unindicted
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: co-conspirators who hate America. Abdul al-Sayed. Dirty money too risky
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: for Michigan. SLF PAC is responsible for the content of
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: this advert.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Byron York?
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: Well, one, I think it's true. And two, I think
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: it's relevant to the race as it exists right now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: You know, I've been writing the last couple of days
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: about El-Sayed, and there's really two categories of problems that
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: he presents. And the first category is his radical background
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: and association, which is pretty worrisome, and this ad addresses that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: And then the other thing is his set of proposals,
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: his platform, which would be troubling even without the radical
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: background and associations. So my feeling is a successful campaign
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: against him will probably pound on both of those things.
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: his background, his associations, and the kind of things he
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: would propose like Medicare for all. So, yeah, I think
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: it's a good part of a Republican campaign.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Let me play for you a brace of Mike Rogers ad.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: These are paid for by Mike Rogers campaign, not an
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: outside PAC. Cut number eight and nine back to back
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: for Byron. They're 30 second ads against Abdul El-Sayed from
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Mike Rogers. Go ahead.
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: Abdul El-Sayed is for Palestine, but Mike Rogers is for Michigan.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Abdul Syed is a puppet.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Well, there's strength somewhere.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I think Abdul cares more about the West Bank than
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: West Detroit.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: I feel like he cares about Palestine more than Michigan.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: We need someone who is speaking for us first. Mike
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Rogers is more in tune to Michigan and what it needs.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Mike Rogers is going to make sure.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that our concerns are being met. I'm a lifelong Democrat,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and this year I'm voting for Mike Rogers. I'm a
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: lifelong Detroiter. I'm passionate about education. I voted for Barack Obama,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but this year I'm voting for Mike Rogers.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: Abdul is way too arrogant and way too extreme.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: He will kill our jobs and make our communities less safe.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Mike Rogers will get to work for us.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: Better schools, safer streets, more jobs, and affordable health care.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Let's send Mike Rogers to the Senate. I'm Mike Rogers,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and I approve this message. So, Byron York, 10 different
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: African Americans talking directly to camera against El-Sayed and for
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Mike Rogers. Effective? Important in this race?
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's important because, I mean, who knows?
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: If it's effective, we'll know more after the election. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: it's definitely important because... You know, with every candidate, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: try to figure out, well, what is the thing that really,
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: really motivates him? What is sort of the core thing
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: that really motivates him? You know, for example, if he's
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: an immigration-based candidate or if he just really cares about
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: the budget or something like that. And, you know, with
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: al-Sayed as well as Zohra Mamdani, you know, Palestine is
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: just an incredibly huge motivator. And I think these people
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: who were speaking in the ad get that, and they say,
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: you know, it's like he cares more about that than
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: us and things here at home. So I think that's
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: an effective ad. Now, the one making the positive case
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: for why Mike Rogers will bring more prosperity, better health care,
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: et cetera, to Michigan is clearly something a candidate has
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: to do. He can't just dump on the competition. all
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: the time. So I, you know, I think there's, again,
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: those are part of the kind of buried front that
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: you have to make in a political campaign.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely right. When you think, and I'm
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: going to use retired Senator here, Pat Toomey. Pat Toomey
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: was all about the budget, right? He was all about
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: how much are we spending? What are we spending it on?
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: How do we bend the curb down? And, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you name me any Senator who's won, and I can
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: tell you, Joni Ernst is not running again. All about
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the military, all about Iowa, all about ethanol. And a
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: particular issue for her was the abuse of women in uniform.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Every kind of candidate brings that to the table. They
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: have passions. And I guess you just sort of illumined
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that for me. His passion is going to be Palestine
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and anti-Israel stuff. That's what he would be if he's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Senator El-Sayed.
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I do think that's what's... You know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: I remember, this is a whole long time ago, but
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: back when in the second term of Bill Clinton, when
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: there had been terrorist attacks against the United States, USS Cole,
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: other attacks, Clinton really hadn't done anything. And later somebody asked, Bill,
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: excuse me, Dick Morris, who at the time was sort
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: of Clinton's secret political advisor guru. And and Dick Morris said, well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: you know, that kind of stuff just wasn't his thing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: You know, I mean, Glenn, you could talk to you
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: about education policy all day. But, you know, this this
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: national security fighting terrorism, a kind of a global war
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: on terror, it just wasn't his thing. And so I
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: do try– whenever I cover a candidate, I try to
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: figure that out. And I certainly think that it was
• 40:20
  Speaker 10: true with Mamdani, especially if you look at what he
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: did in college. I mean, he starts a chapter of
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: students for justice in Palestine. So it's a good thing
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: to do to look at every candidate. And I think that,
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: here again, the people in that ad sense that about
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: Abdul El-Sayed.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: We've got a minute, Byron. The president made a point about,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Alaska for Dan Sullivan. Does a presidential
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: visit matter, especially in a small state with a small population,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a large state geographically, like Alaska?
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, he gets to fly direct, so
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: that's okay. But, you know, I don't really know. I mean,
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: I was just thinking about Alaska because it's so hard
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: to poll. And back in 2014, Nate Silver wrote a post.
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: an article about how terrible all of Alaska's polls were,
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: and that the average error was more than seven points.
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: And it hasn't gotten any better. So you're asking, will
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: it work? I don't know, because I don't even know
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: where the race stands right now.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Amen to that. Boy, that's well put. Byron New York,
• 41:29
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  Speaker 1: got a treat for you we begin the hour with
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Rich Lowry editor-in-chief of National Review I don't know where
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: he is today he's not at Yankee Stadium though because
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the Guardians are in the American League Championship Series and
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the Guardians won last night Rich are you pulling for
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the Guardians over the the Rays.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I am solely out of spite because the Rays swept
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the Yankees so go Guardians.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Well, the Guardians got to Rasmussen and he shut down
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the Yankees. So I'm just thinking we've got to be
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: better than the Yankees. I hear you and Andy each
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: week on the McCarthy Report talking about the Yankees and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the Mets. I'm so glad that I don't have to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: deal with any of that during the postseason up against
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the Guardians because you would throw shade on the Guardians then.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: But do you have a favorite Guardians player?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: No, I have to say I'm very out of date
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: on the guardians. Although I have some bad memories. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: still hold a grudge over 1997. You guys knocked us
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: out of the playoffs there and the division series, I believe.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: And I forget what year it was. It might've been 08, 09,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the might game when the mites came out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you for remembering that they're mites. Yes. They swarmed
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: them out.
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: That was one.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Of his regrets as a manager. He didn't call timeout
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and let, let Jabba. escape this cloud of insects that
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: distracted him and let the... Were they still the Indians then?
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I think they were.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were the Indians until a few years ago.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I thought for sure you would say Jose Ramirez. Jose, Jose.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And so at least pull for the old guy. He's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: 34 now and he's taken that hometown discount so many times.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: He's probably the most beloved professional athlete since Jimmy Brown.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I think I can say. Bernie Kosar was pretty beloved,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: but LeBron was worshipped, but beloved... Jose Ramirez. All right,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: let's get down to business. I am in Maine, Rich.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I came up to cover Susan Collins versus Troy Jackson.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, I feel pretty good
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: about Susan Collins here. Not only that she's the most
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: powerful woman in Washington, D.C., and Maine would be suicidal
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to throw her out, but Troy Jackson may be the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: worst candidate in this cycle. El-Sayed is the most radical.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: We'll come to him. What do you think of the
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Collins-Troy Jackson race?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a total non-entity, but harder to run against
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: than a malevolent sociopath, which she had as the first
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Democratic nominee, Graham Platner, before he dropped out. And, you know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I've said this since the debate they had the other night.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: You watch clips of her and you would say in isolation,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: this is not a good politician. Her voice is shaky, right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: She's getting older, but she's such a good brand fit
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: for Maine. Some of the polls lately that have her
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a tick or two But after what she did six
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: years ago and what she outperformed her polls by eight
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: points or something, you're not going to get against her.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: And she's she's such a linchpin to the Senate map,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: because if she goes, then the map really opens up
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: for Democrats. If she prevails and if I had to bet,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I'd say she does prevail. Then then you have to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: go through almost entirely red states.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: What's interesting is watching the ALCS and the division series
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: before that. There are a million ads for Susan Collins
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and a million ads for Troy Jackson. I guess there
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: isn't a campaign consultant in the world who can make
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Troy Jackson look good. His own ads are bad. So,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: who knows?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is, he does not have it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: No. He is definitely off the bench. Nobody else left
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: on the bench. Yeah, exactly. And Susan Collins, she's sainted.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: She's like covered with guardian angels. All right, Rich, how
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: about Michigan? How do you feel about El Sayed? I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: know that I think he's the most radical major party
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: candidate of my lifetime and no one should vote for him.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: But what does Rich Lowry think?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. The problem is he is
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: charming and he has something going on. You know, he
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: had this exchange with Jesse Waters, I think it was
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: about a month ago. I thought Jesse scored some points
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: against him, but he held his own. And Jesse Waters
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: said the next night, you know, I kind of like
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: that guy. So that's the quality you want as a politician, obviously.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: It's a blue state and a blue year. I think
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: he's probably going to win, but Mike Rogers is a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: really good candidate and the best candidate Republicans possibly could
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: have running against this guy. And also, if you look
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: at the polls, it's real close. He's a little bit
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: behind Rogers, but only by a point or two. so
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: this is true a lot of these races hue so
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: if there's one if there's a polling era and a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: lot of republicans do think there there's a polling era
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: lurking out there because it's hard to get rural voters
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: to respond these days or it just tilts one way
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: or the other you know tilts back in republicans direction
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and some of these races they easily could hold the senate.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Rich, does it matter that, I'm going to put this charitably,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: he dissembled to Christian Welker about the Muslim Brotherhood and
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: his family? Does that matter at all? It should, right?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: These associations matter. It's really telling about where he is himself.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, basically, we know that. There's all sorts of
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: other evidence there. But I'm not sure it will, right?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Because these stories, the media never falls up on them
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: or really drives them home the way they do if
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it would hurt a Republican's chances.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Now, the story I don't think has been covered much
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: is historical antipathy between the black community in Detroit and
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: its environs and the Arab American community. It's real. It's deep.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that legacy media wants to touch
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: it or knows how to cover it.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Do you?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think they do. I think the problem– part
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of the problem here is the less simplistic and reductive
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: racialism where you have white people on the one side
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and brown people who are all the same on the
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: other side, which obviously isn't true within the so-called Latino community.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You have people, different cultures from different countries, from countries
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that don't like each other. So it's much more complex
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: than a white versus brown community. division in this country.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And this is, you know, African Americans aren't from Muslim
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: nations by and large here in the United States. So
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: different cultures, different political interests. And if he loses, you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: if Rogers nips him, I expect this will be part
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: of the story.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I think absolutely it will be. And I think Mike
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Rogers is making a big effort to be on urban radio,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to be on urban markets and be talking to the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: black voters of Michigan. Let me go to Texas. I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: said on Hannity last night, this is the one that
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: worries me the most because I think Ken Paxton is
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: a deeply flawed candidate. I was a Cornyn guy, but
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I'd vote for him anyway. I think everyone should. But
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: then Tallarico gives a gift of a two-week disappearance and, again,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: charitable dissembling about what was going on there. How do
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you think that's playing? And again, the polls, I just
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: don't believe them very much, Rich. Yeah.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Very weird episode. I'm not sure what to To make
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: of it, I mean, he has evidence that he was
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: at his house. He was provided to a New York
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Times reporter. That's a long absence for the flu in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the midst of a hard-fought Senate campaign. Maybe it's just
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: they wanted him totally 100 percent so he didn't sound
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: raspy and kind of ill in ways that could be
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: used against him. But I think Paxson has just been
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: a disaster of a candidate. This was foreseen and warned about.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: We have another Wall Street Journal story just today or
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: yesterday about a trip to Dubai with shady characters two
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: years ago with his girlfriend. It seems to me the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: only clips I see of him are secret recordings of
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: him complaining in private about other people being responsible for
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: his political troubles. But red state and really close. And again,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: if it just tilts a little bit at the end,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the Republicans way he can hold this race. But a
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: lot of money is going to be invested here. they
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: would have hoped could have been spent elsewhere.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I've never really been worried about Alaska because
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan is a great retail politician, a serious man
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: and defense expert, and beloved in Alaska. So a lot
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of the early worry about him, it's just the primary
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: vote is one half of the general election vote. However, Dr.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Roger Marshall, been on the show a couple of times.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: He's been on a bill with Dick Durbin about credit
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: cards that earned him some enmity from Republicans. What do
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you think of Kansas?
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: It's so hard to believe you. It's so hard to believe.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: If Kansas goes, obviously it's a terrible night. You know,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: if Kansas is going, Republicans might lose six Senate seats
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: on election night. Still, I find it a little hard
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: to believe. Maybe I lack imagination. But look, there's a
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: big problem in the Midwest owing to discontent over tariffs
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and some of the retaliation. We've suffered from Trump's tariffs.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: And obviously, diesel is just the price of diesel is
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: hitting everyone really hard. So we've seen kind of comprehensively
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: a Republican downdraft in these red states in the Midwest
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: that you wouldn't expect. And if Democrats are going to
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: take the majority, they've got to win a couple of them.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And depending on where a Maine or a Michigan or
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: a Texas falls, they might need to sweep if they
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: want to get the four pickups that they need to
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: take the Senate in the heartland.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: That's why Trump is in Ohio last night, and I
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: hope he's back four or five times, because he was
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: in Trump country last night, Mahoning Valley, Trumbull County. That's
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: where I'm from. And it went from deep blue to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: deep red in the blink of 10 years. I mean, deep,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: deep Trump red. And he made some big announcements last night.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Let me close with Minnesota. We got a minute, Rich.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Peggy Flanagan with the weirdest campaign out of the season
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: up against Michelle Tafoya, trained broadcast professional. Any good vibes there?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're good vibes. I mean, she's running a really
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: competitive race, unexpectedly so, in that state. I just say
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: blue state. blue year, it's going to be too hard
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: for her to get over the top is my guess.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: All right, last exit. If the polls are wrong again,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like they've been for the last three cycles, will we
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: stop doing them?
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: The allure is too much, right? The only really information
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you have until you have the early vote. And by
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the way, Republicans are looking at the early vote in
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of states and not seeing a sign of
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a big blue wave. But I think it's just too hard.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: We've been burned multiple times, but we'll be willing to
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: be burned again.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I just think it's because reporters got to write about something,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: give them some data. Rich Lowry, editor of National Review,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: listened to Rich as he hosts the Editor's Podcast and
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the McCarthy Report, where I'm sure they will be singing
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the praises of the Guardians this week. Rich Lowry is
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: on X at Rich Lowry. I'll be right back. Thank you, Rich,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So pleased to welcome back Michael Whatley, Republican nominee for
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Senate in North Carolina. I want the C-SPAN audience especially
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: to know that obviously former Governor Cooper is welcome on
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the program. He is never asked to come on, but
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I'd be happy to have him on. Michael Whatley, why
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: do you think Governor Cooper won't come on the Hugh
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Hewitt Show?
• 55:55
  Speaker 12: He is hiding in the basement right now. He is
• 55:58
  Speaker 12: hiding from his record. We have been out to all
• 56:00
  Speaker 12: 100 counties. I've done over 400 events on this campaign.
• 56:04
  Speaker 12: talking to people all across this state about the issues
• 56:07
  Speaker 12: that really matter. And Roy Cooper is running the Four
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: Corners defense. He is in the basement hiding from the
• 56:13
  Speaker 12: voters because his record is so out of step with
• 56:15
  Speaker 12: the voters of North Carolina.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Boy, Michael Watley, I'm of the age that I know
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: what the Four Corners defense is. And everyone in North Carolina,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: your constituency knows what that is. But you'd better explain
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it for the C-SPAN audience because they've never seen the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Four Corners offense if they're under 50.
• 56:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, look, I think it's just pure and simple
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: that Roy Cooper does not want to be held accountable
• 56:37
  Speaker 12: for his record. This is a guy who made stuff
• 56:40
  Speaker 12: cost more. He made electricity cost more. He made housing
• 56:43
  Speaker 12: cost more health care costs. We have the highest health
• 56:46
  Speaker 12: care costs in the country after health insurance rates went
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: up 183 percent on his watch. This is a guy
• 56:52
  Speaker 12: who's never seen a tax that he didn't want to raise.
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: I've never seen a tax that I didn't want to cut.
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: And so, you know, he also released thousands upon thousands
• 57:00
  Speaker 12: of criminals out of North Carolina prisons, put our kids
• 57:04
  Speaker 12: and our communities at risk. And he does not want
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: to be held accountable for it. So what he's doing
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: right now is just hiding out, running a flood of
• 57:11
  Speaker 12: ads on TV and really, truly refusing to engage with
• 57:15
  Speaker 12: the people across this state.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: So, Michael Watley, I've seen poll after poll that puts
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: him at seven points outside the margin of error ahead
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: of you. I don't believe them because of what happened
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: in Western Carolina under his tenure. In fact, I saw
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: a clip yesterday where he said, sometimes you just have to,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you can't rebuild. The damage is so great. He was
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: apologizing for himself. Do you think those polls are capturing
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the Western part of your state at all?
• 57:41
  Speaker 12: Well, what I will say is this, that the only
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: poll that matters is on November 3rd. If the polling
• 57:46
  Speaker 12: on October 12th were definitive, President Trump would not be
• 57:50
  Speaker 12: sitting in the White House right now. And neither Senator
• 57:53
  Speaker 12: Tom Tillis nor Ted Budd would be sitting in the
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: Senate today.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So the key to North Carolina, a few constituencies, one
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: of them is the military vote. Is Roy Cooper popular
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: with uniforms? I don't think so.
• 58:08
  Speaker 12: No, we just haven't seen him out there. He hasn't
• 58:10
  Speaker 12: done anything. Look, I think, you know, we have 10
• 58:12
  Speaker 12: percent of the armed forces, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,
• 58:15
  Speaker 12: Coast Guard are based right here in North Carolina. And
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: I am going to fight every day to make sure
• 58:20
  Speaker 12: that they have the support that they need, the supplies
• 58:23
  Speaker 12: that they need to carry out their mission to protect
• 58:26
  Speaker 12: our interests and our allies around the world. Roy Cooper
• 58:29
  Speaker 12: has said that he supports the Democrats not funding the
• 58:33
  Speaker 12: Department of War, not funding the Department of Homeland Security.
• 58:36
  Speaker 12: So You know, we got a pretty big spread between
• 58:40
  Speaker 12: me and my support for the men and women in
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: uniform and Roy Cooper, who said that he's going to
• 58:45
  Speaker 12: support the filibusters. He's going to support the delays. He's
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: going to support the Democratic shutdowns. You know, you have
• 58:51
  Speaker 12: to remember that the first thing that Roy Cooper is
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: going to do if he wins this race, the first
• 58:56
  Speaker 12: vote that he will cast will be for Chuck Schumer.
• 58:59
  Speaker 12: It will be for an agenda. It will be for
• 59:01
  Speaker 12: open borders, inflationary spending, and a woke, weak America. That's
• 59:05
  Speaker 12: not what North Carolina voters want to see.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Woke, and let's finish there. On the border and the
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: number of illegal immigrants in North Carolina, is that on voters'
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: mind in the Tar Heels state?
• 59:17
  Speaker 12: Well, it absolutely is. He has welcomed over 500,000 illegal
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: immigrants into North Carolina. He vetoed legislation on to force
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: sheriffs to honor ICE detainers and get violent criminal illegal
• 59:28
  Speaker 12: aliens out of North Carolina, vetoed that legislation three different
• 59:32
  Speaker 12: times because he wants to see North Carolina as a
• 59:35
  Speaker 12: sanctuary state filled with sanctuary cities. And we have seen
• 59:39
  Speaker 12: the crime. We've seen thousands of crimes. committed by illegal aliens.
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: We've seen dozens of murders committed by illegal aliens. We've
• 59:47
  Speaker 12: also seen rent prices and housing prices go up because
• 59:50
  Speaker 12: of illegal aliens. So, you know, he's always going to
• 59:52
  Speaker 12: fight for illegal aliens. He's going to fight for criminals.
• 59:55
  Speaker 12: He's going to fight for men who want to play
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: in women's sports. I'm going to fight for our kids.
• 59:59
  Speaker 12: I'm going to fight for our families, our communities and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 12: everybody across this great state.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: OK, quick bonus question, Michael Watley. when you go out
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and you talk to people, do they understand the Senate
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: makeup matters in terms of Republican control, Democrat control? Do
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: they think in partisan terms of control of the Senate?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I wish they would. It makes a lot of difference,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if the average voter does.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 12: Yeah, we've been pounding on this message continuously because North
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 12: Carolina tends to elect Democrat governors and they tend to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 12: elect Republican senators. because they do not want Chuck Schumer.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 12: They do not want Elizabeth Warren. They do not want
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 12: Bernie Sanders to be in charge of the United States Senate.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 12: They understand as soon as that happens, the Democrats are
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 12: going to impeach President Trump. They're going to impeach Vice
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 12: President Vance. They'll impeach our Secretary of War, our Secretary
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 12: of Homeland Security. They'll impeach our Attorney General. They have
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 12: no agenda at all. You know, in 2024, They ran
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 12: on a failed agenda. They have doubled down on it
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 12: right now. And the only thing that they have is
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 12: opposition to President Trump. And that is not what the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 12: people of North Carolina want to see.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Michael Watley, good to see you again. I'll see you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: before the election day. And again, Governor Cooper, you are
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: welcome to come on. Just get in touch with me
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: through X or DM or find my producer and we'll
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: get you on the air. Michael Watley, thank you. Welcome back, America.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, so pleased to bring to you The
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: congressperson with the best handle on X. It's at Rep. MMM,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: which stands for Representative Marionette Miller Meeks of Iowa. Congresswoman,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: good to have you with us. I want to let
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: people know up front, you are a doctor, right? And
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: before you went to Congress, you took care of people.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Are you still licensed?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Doctor, I'm still licensed. I still have my DEA certification
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: for prescribing medication. I'm also a 24-year Army veteran. and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: also a former director of the Iowa Department of Public Health.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Came from nothing, first in my family of eight kids.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I'm the fourth to ever go to college. So first-generation
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: college graduate, only wanted to go to med school.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Dr. Miller-Meeks, that's amazing. I say doctor because you earned it,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: and I can call a lot of people congresspeople, but
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: there aren't many doctors in Congress. That's actually what I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: go by. Yeah. Let me ask you two things. One,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: would you ever call yourself a doctor if you hadn't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: been licensed or done your internship and residency and could
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: not provide medicine? Would you call yourself a doctor?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Me personally?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I call myself doctor because I'm a practicing physician and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: because it means something to go through undergraduate school for
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: four years, medical school for four years, then to do
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: a residency and And then to sit for your licensure exam.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: So the USMLE, our licensure exam, three part of it
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: is not easy. It's extraordinarily difficult. And so I would
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: only call myself a doctor if I were licensed to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: be a physician. It's just like I was a nurse
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: and I had to sit for my nursing licensure exams.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: And so I've earned those things. So on the plaque
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: outside my door in Congress, it has doctor and it
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: has lieutenant colonel, U.S. Army retired, because I've earned those titles.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: But to that point, titles aren't what's most important. And
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: people have asked me, do I prefer doctor or representative
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: or director or lieutenant colonel or senator when I was
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: a state senator? And what was my favorite title? And
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: my favorite title is mom. Being a mother and raising
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: good children is the most important thing that we do
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: as a society.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't call you Mom Miller-Meeks, so I'm going
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: to call you Dr. Miller-Meeks. So, doctor, I want your
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: take on a lot of Democrats, not just Abdul El-Sayed.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I do not call doctor because he did not get
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: the license, and that's what I think it's intended to connote,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that you're licensed to practice medicine. I've got a jurist doctor.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I don't call myself a doctor because I have a degree.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Medicare for All, he's been running
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: on that. Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota is running on that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I think the Senate candidate up against Ashley Ensign is
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: running on Medicare for All. Up in Maine, where I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: am today, in fact, Troy Jackson's running on Medicare for All.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the idea of Medicare for All?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Well, let me just say that the reason I ran
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: for Congress to begin with, or elected office, was that
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: the very people that I was trying to help heal
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: were being hurt by the federal government and by big
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: insurance companies. They were harming the people that I was
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: working hard to try to heal. and to be an
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: independent thinker, do right by the patient. So you're going
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: up against the federal government. You're going up against Medicaid.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: You're going up against Medicare. You're going up against big
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: insurance companies when they deny claims, when you have to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: get preauthorization and they continue to deny it. And then
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: ultimately they agree to it. I had a patient like that,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: had very few symptoms. I thought they had a brain cancer.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get through Medicaid to get them an MRI.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Because of where the cancer was, I knew a CAT
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: scan wouldn't be available. Months go by. They wouldn't let
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: me get an MRI. They finally approve a CAT scan.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: It doesn't show anything, which I knew it wouldn't. So
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: because the bone interferes, I had to go back another
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: month delaying this for this poor patient, this poor woman.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: And finally, we get the MRI. And guess what? She
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: had a brain tumor. And so I believe strongly in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: the patient-doctor relationship. I believe strongly in our medical education
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: system and the value that it has to us. And therefore, no,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with a single-payer health care system. I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: have worked my entire life to try to avoid that
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: and have the United States go down that pathway. You
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: might have access to primary care, but you would not
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: have access to the specialty care that we have in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: the United States. We have the best cancer survival rates
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: of any country. We have the best specialty care. We
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: have the innovation in the pharmaceutical marketplace, and that comes
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: from a free enterprise system. you have choice. I'm not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: saying that sometimes things aren't limited or they're not difficult,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: but you have choice. You have personalization. And it's why
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: a different system would be much better than the system
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: that we have now that the Unaffordable Care Act has
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: led us to. Remember, we were promised by President Obama,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: the Unaffordable Care Act, that it would bend the cost
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: curve down and it would lower premiums by $ 2, 500. Instead, Hugh,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: what have we seen? Skyrocketing premiums, less control of patients
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: and doctors together, more control of insurance companies and the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: federal government. It leads to rationing of care. And we've
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: seen that in Europe. We've seen that in Great Britain.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: And we've seen that in Canada. How many Canadian prime
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: ministers have come down to the United States for their care?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of them.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: If you are from the Cleveland area, as I am,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you know that Canadians go for their heart care to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Clinic, as do people from around the world.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: It's a smart choice to go to the Cleveland Clinic.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: But I want to go back. These Democrats who are
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: going out there and saying Medicare for all, they're implying
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that it wouldn't involve cost. A, it would cost three,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: four more trillion dollars every year, and it would not
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: deliver the product. Am I overstating it? Because I really
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: think it's a nightmare for Americans to vote for it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Remember, the New England states and Bernie Sanders' own state
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: tried to implement a single-payer system, quote-unquote, Medicare for all,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: and it failed because the cost is too great. What's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: most important about– they use the lingo Medicare for all.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: They're very careful about their words. They don't say single-payer system.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: They don't say socialized medicine where the government is controlling everything.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: and controlling your access to care, your access to specialty care,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: how long you wait. They say Medicare for all because Medicare,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: under a fee-for-service system, which is what we have, is popular.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: But when they get their will, which is government control
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: of all of health care, you're the servant, you're the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: slave to them. They control everything and it will not
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: be Medicare for all. It will not be Medicare as
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: we have Medicare today. They know that, which is why
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: they don't say we want a single payer system. We
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: think it would reduce administrative costs and make it easier
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: for patients. They don't say that. They say Medicare for all.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: because they're trying to lead people into this belief that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: it would be the similar fee-for-service system that we have now,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: where you have access to doctors, where you choose your doctor,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: where you can go to your doctor as many times
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: as you want. You have access to specialty care, access
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: to orthopedic care, access to cancer care, eye care. Great Britain,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: so we have medications. I'm an ophthalmologist. We have medications
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: we inject in eyes for wet macular degeneration to restore vision.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: In Great Britain, you had to go blind in one
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: eye before they would allow you to be treated. Do
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: you want to be blind in one eye and risk
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: the second eye going blind, too? That's what they're talking about.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: They don't want to tell you that. They want to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: lie about what they do, except now that they're electing socialists,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: it's okay to talk about Medicare for all.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Well and truly stated, Congresswoman Miller-Meeks. Dr. Miller-Meeks, thank you.