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ITB on WBCB: Eagles Punting Legend Sean Landeta Joins Adam Caplan, Andrew DiCecco To Talk Eagles · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Inside the Birds at our special guest, was he number seven?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, very good.
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  Speaker 2: Not Roger bruzzk No, No, it's Sean Landana with the
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  Speaker 2: single bar helmet there, Faith Messa.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's see what I me. I remember.
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  Speaker 5: Good to see it, you know, it's amazing. This past
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  Speaker 5: January first was twenty years to the day of my
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  Speaker 5: last game with the Eagles, so wow, I remember it
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  Speaker 5: was January first, two thousand and six where we played
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  Speaker 5: the Redskins the last game, and uh, it was kind
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  Speaker 5: of cool because it was the first so you had
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  Speaker 5: the mummers and our game was at four o'clock, so
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  Speaker 5: all those guys in their outfits came up and went
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  Speaker 5: to the game, and a bunch of us on the
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  Speaker 5: sideline periodically would take a peek and look around because
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  Speaker 5: there was some magnificent sights of these guys and their outfits.
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  Speaker 5: Just passed out because of.
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  Speaker 3: All the things.
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  Speaker 4: It was really very first.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe it's been twenty years of years ago.
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  Speaker 5: By He's so glad, But I loved the five seasons
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  Speaker 5: I was here, so grateful that I got them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Sean, we're glad you joined us at Chicken Piter
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  Speaker 2: and Roosevelt Bulevard.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, we.
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  Speaker 2: Were going to talk right about the game, but the
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  Speaker 2: big news of the day is Kevin Botulo is out
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  Speaker 2: of offensive coordinator. Ever obviously this is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the way it is. And Sean, I
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  Speaker 2: want to ask you a question because you know, you
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  Speaker 2: played for the Eagles. You played for a team that
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  Speaker 2: was owned by his own bye still by Jeffrey Lorie.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know that's actually where I'm going
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  Speaker 2: with this. Were you aware of the importance that he
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  Speaker 2: puts on offense when you talk about Jeffrey or yes, Jeffrey, no, Jeffrey.
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  Speaker 2: You know I can say no that I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the world of Jeffrey. I can
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  Speaker 2: tell the fans this. I mean, this guy, truthfully, even
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  Speaker 2: with everything that he has, constantly thinks of everything he
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  Speaker 2: can do to make the Eagles better, probably on a
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  Speaker 2: daily basis.
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  Speaker 4: Well, because I've had.
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  Speaker 5: So many conversations with him through the years, and he
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  Speaker 5: is an owner, I believe certainly they all care. But
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  Speaker 5: just in case anybody's wondering, this guy cares so much
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  Speaker 5: about this organization in this city. But I didn't know
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  Speaker 5: if that is the case, that it was that he
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  Speaker 5: had that much input or say in that because I
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  Speaker 5: know through the years the Eagles had so much success,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, obviously he has a lot of knowledge.
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  Speaker 5: Now this is you know, thirty years since he's owned
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  Speaker 5: the team, and you know, you wonder, maybe did he
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  Speaker 5: have something to say to Sirianni as far as you
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  Speaker 5: know this move needs to be made, or did Nick
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  Speaker 5: go along with it, or was Nick in the position
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  Speaker 5: or was it Howie, sure we all kind of knew
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  Speaker 5: as you said it was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: We talked before the show.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes coaches, you know, can take the blame when players
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  Speaker 5: don't perform. But that being said, I think there was
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  Speaker 5: enough there throughout this year that, unfortunately for Kevin.
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  Speaker 4: That this had to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So, and you're closest team, you cover it from a
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  Speaker 2: daily basis for us at inside the Birds, so being
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  Speaker 2: in the locker room, being around the club, the fact
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  Speaker 2: it was clean out there because they lost, of course
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday at home, unfortunately the forty nine ers. So
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  Speaker 2: this came up about Kevin Petula. What do the players
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  Speaker 2: tell you?
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  Speaker 6: Look, all season long, the players have been accountable. They
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  Speaker 6: look inward first. They always talk about execution, and I
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  Speaker 6: don't think that's by happenstance. They know that there's plays
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  Speaker 6: left on the field to be made. And that's not
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  Speaker 6: to say that there haven't been shortcomings from Kevin Petulo
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  Speaker 6: in terms of sequencing and things like that. I think
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  Speaker 6: he's done a nice job with the scripted plays and
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  Speaker 6: inside the red zone, he's been really creative. But all
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  Speaker 6: season long, the offenses had to labor their way down
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  Speaker 6: the field, and with the offense that talented, with that
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  Speaker 6: much invested in it, that shouldn't be the case. So
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  Speaker 6: obviously something had to happen there. But I always say
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  Speaker 6: players first, players when they win, players first when they
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  Speaker 6: lose as well. And there has been a lot of
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  Speaker 6: plays on the field that that we're that are there
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  Speaker 6: to be made. And just look at that forty nine
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  Speaker 6: Ers game alone. Three drops from your star wide receiver,
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  Speaker 6: drop by your your you know, your all star running
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  Speaker 6: backs A Kwon bark. We had a big one there
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  Speaker 6: that that's that's not on coaching, that that's that's on execution.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, I know I'm cherry picking a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: but I think that it's a it's been a collective
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  Speaker 6: as to why the offense hasn't fulfilled expectations.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, and we talked about it before you
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  Speaker 5: mentioned those drops. Jake Elliet has been a terrific kicker,
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  Speaker 5: but if he makes that extra point late in the game,
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  Speaker 5: you're kicking the tie and who knows what happens after that.
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  Speaker 5: But again, you know that's the players having to get
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  Speaker 5: it done. And but that's that's all part of football,
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  Speaker 5: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: So they're gonna be hiring a new offensive coordinator. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let's get into this, because the challenge with Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 2: is he likes a certain style of play. We know
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  Speaker 2: that it's going to start with a running game with Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: But in terms of the past game, Andrew Hurts is
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  Speaker 2: not a guy that typically will throw the ball inside.
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  Speaker 3: So there's certain schemes.
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  Speaker 2: Like old school West Coast offense where people wanted Mike McDaniel.
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  Speaker 2: It makes no sense because McDaniel's all about timing, rhythm,
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  Speaker 2: tight ends over the middle. If you watch the Dolphins,
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  Speaker 2: like I, although it was painful this year, they weren't
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  Speaker 2: very good, but a lot a lot of passes.
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  Speaker 3: Over the middle. Hurts seawan.
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  Speaker 2: Since the bye, he's showing a little willingness to throw
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  Speaker 2: it over the middle.
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  Speaker 3: But I heard Irvin Fryar say this, do you play
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  Speaker 3: with Friar?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: I played against him and and we won a.
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  Speaker 2: Career Eagles, right. But he said on local radio last year.
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  Speaker 2: This shocked me because they were talking and he was
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  Speaker 2: talking about Hurts. He goes, well, Hurts don't like to
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  Speaker 2: throw the ball over the middle, so it makes it
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  Speaker 2: tough for US receivers. So I was like, wow, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think a form of player would say that.
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  Speaker 3: But he's just telling the truth. Andrew, Yeah, you're there
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  Speaker 3: all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you watch the offense over the last
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  Speaker 6: number of seasasons that he's been a starter that's been
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  Speaker 6: largely absent from the offense. It's certainly not a coordinator
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  Speaker 6: saying let's not let's avoid that area of the field.
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  Speaker 6: You always tailor to the strengths of your players, what
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  Speaker 6: they're comfortable with, and for whatever reason, that's why they
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  Speaker 6: don't do it. And that's why you see a lot
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  Speaker 6: of the hitch routes and things of that nature that
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  Speaker 6: you hear get get often mocked on on television and
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  Speaker 6: social media. But they're doing it because it's it's a preference.
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  Speaker 6: It's something that Jaywen Hurts is very good at. And
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Adam, I was a little curious this year
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  Speaker 6: that we didn't see a lot of the bang eight
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  Speaker 6: routes with aj.
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  Speaker 3: Brown and Quinn Slant.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that those are almost automatic and they
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  Speaker 6: have been in the past. So yeah, it's it's not
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  Speaker 6: by you know, by design that they're you know that
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  Speaker 6: they're not avoiding that area of the.
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  Speaker 4: Field, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And that's interesting to hear Irving say that because you
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  Speaker 5: know coaches in every position in teams, you know, they
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  Speaker 5: watched other teams, they chart how often do you do
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  Speaker 5: this and that. And if it's very clear that when
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  Speaker 5: we play the Eagles, we know, based on their history,
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  Speaker 5: they are not going to throw over the middle much.
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  Speaker 5: I would think that's got to be a huge advantage
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  Speaker 5: to the defense. That's just one less thing we got
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  Speaker 5: to worry about. You know, if you look at their
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  Speaker 5: last day, ten games or last year, it's eighty eight
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  Speaker 5: percent of the time they do this or do that.
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  Speaker 5: It's you know, you would think they'd have a tremendous
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  Speaker 5: package because this is the NFL. People make catches over
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  Speaker 5: the middle absolutely, and Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: You know as well as anyone because you're a training
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  Speaker 2: camp you've been throwing them since you worked for us.
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  Speaker 3: That balls go. Now it hurts us a deep ball
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  Speaker 3: throw because talking about your greatability.
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  Speaker 6: He's great at it, very good deep ball thrower, one
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  Speaker 6: of the best, good at throwing outside the numbers. But
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  Speaker 6: I was also really curious to when your offense is struggling,
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  Speaker 6: you're not establishing much of a rhythm. In terms of
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  Speaker 6: the passing game, we saw so much Adam in the summer,
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  Speaker 6: the checkdowns to the running backs, the wheel routes. There
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  Speaker 6: must have been at least fifty to will Shipley where
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  Speaker 6: were that beating everybody, sakuon Barkley even and when you
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  Speaker 6: get to the regular season, it's absent. It's not a
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  Speaker 6: part of their offense.
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  Speaker 3: Screen game and where's the screen game?
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  Speaker 6: That's a good way to get your quarterback out of
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  Speaker 6: you know, into a rhythm and alleviate some of that
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  Speaker 6: Earth game pressure, and the Eagles just never never tapped
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  Speaker 6: into that.
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  Speaker 2: So Sean Andrew and I and Jeff Moscher, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were at training camp two years ago and there
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  Speaker 2: was one effect. I think I saw you at that
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  Speaker 2: training camp, and I think it seemed like Jeandre Swift
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  Speaker 2: had like twenty catches in one practice.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, Swift is a great receiving back.
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  Speaker 2: Saint George Prep, by the way, in Philly, where Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Stefanski went. But anyway, why what happened and then in
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  Speaker 2: the regular season never happened? I said, I'm done judging
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  Speaker 2: what I see Sean and training camp, because I got full.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, obviously anybody would. If you saw that and
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  Speaker 5: you saw them have a success, you think at some
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  Speaker 5: point you would see it during the season. But that's
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  Speaker 5: very interesting. You know, again, back to what you said before,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just thinking here that you know, they don't throw
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  Speaker 5: over the middle very much. Whether it's something he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: do well, which it's hard to believe because he's an
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  Speaker 5: NFL quarterback. I'm sure if he had great plays called,
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  Speaker 5: you could do that. But there's no doubt that had
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  Speaker 5: to hurt this offense of that lack, you know, of
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  Speaker 5: that part of a passing game, and maybe that's part
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  Speaker 5: of the deal why he's not here.
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  Speaker 3: So Andrew, let's look at it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So you've got Siriani's run his scheme since he's
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  Speaker 2: gotten here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, no matter who can call in the place, it's
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  Speaker 3: his scheme. They have not changed the scheme.
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore brought some new concepts, but generally overall, it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's Syrianna's scheme.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's no way to know this, but to me,
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  Speaker 2: you got if you're bringing in someone's established, not a
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  Speaker 2: young person, not a young coach. But if you're bringing
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  Speaker 2: someone's established, they've got to be able to make their
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  Speaker 2: own run here with their own system.
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  Speaker 6: For the offense to reach its expectations and be able
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  Speaker 6: to open things up and maximize the talent. Yes, but
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  Speaker 6: we thought we were going to see that with Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 6: But I would tell anyone out there, look at Kellen
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  Speaker 6: Moore's offense before he got the Philadelphia and after he
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  Speaker 6: got and after he left Philadelphia, where he's doing more
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  Speaker 6: with less with the Saints. It's a stark contrast to
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  Speaker 6: what he was running here in Philadelphia. And I think
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  Speaker 6: the big difference there is that he had a prolific
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  Speaker 6: rushing attack with Saquon Barkley to lean on, and that's
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  Speaker 6: why his offense was and as heavily scrutinized as the
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  Speaker 6: one we just saw.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's interesting too is Petullo's been here for
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  Speaker 5: what five years yep, So he's been around a lot
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  Speaker 5: of success. He's been to a couple of Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 5: I mean he is, you know, very aware of everything
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  Speaker 5: that was going on here before plays that were being called.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that had a lot to do with
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  Speaker 5: why Sirianni wanted him and elevated him, because he's been
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  Speaker 5: right here and he felt he was able to take
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  Speaker 5: over for it. And it's just, you know, interesting that
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  Speaker 5: if you've been here all these years and seeing all
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  Speaker 5: the success and the growth that you know, the problems
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  Speaker 5: that had they had this this year would happen. You know,
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  Speaker 5: that's part kind of surprises me a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So Sean, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's also worked very but even before this season, he's
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  Speaker 2: worked very closely with Hurts because.
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  Speaker 3: He's part of the game planning.
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  Speaker 2: He was also at one point that passing game coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: so you would think that he knew what hurt Selected
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  Speaker 2: didn't like. But Andrew, again, it just never seemed. You
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  Speaker 2: were talk of the sequencing. You're trying to get a
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  Speaker 2: rhythm to what you do.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, set things up early in the game to count,
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  Speaker 6: you know, to have the defense thinking one thing, you
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  Speaker 6: countering with something else. There just wasn't that feel, that
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  Speaker 6: rhythm to the offense all season.
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  Speaker 2: And that's to me, Sean, why the new guy let
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  Speaker 2: him run his own system. It's just, uh, Nick's gotta
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  Speaker 2: give Nick to sign a contract, et cetera. And he
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  Speaker 2: just won a super Bowl last year. He shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: coaching for his job. Just let the Reins go, get
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  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator to run his own system. And then
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  Speaker 2: then Jalen, I know this is a tough thing to say,
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  Speaker 2: but Jalen's just got to go along with it. I
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  Speaker 2: know that he's had a lot of change. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's like this will be his eleventh coordinator.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, six or seventh since being an Eagle starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Going back to high school with his father and seleven coordinators.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, it's a lot, yeah, but like six or seven
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  Speaker 6: in the NFL, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you to be a seventh
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  Speaker 4: seventh one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, obviously you would think whoever they
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  Speaker 5: would bring in would be somebody that whatever their philosophy,
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  Speaker 5: is his strength and you know, be able to work
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  Speaker 5: with him because he's so talented, and you know this.
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  Speaker 4: Team is right there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if they went back to the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 5: at next year had an opportunity, wouldn't surprise me because
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  Speaker 5: their team is so deep. I mean, we're all so
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  Speaker 5: surprised there's got knocked out of the playoffs. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: interested to see who they bring in. Do they bring
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  Speaker 5: in an offensive cornerat and maybe there was an NFL
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  Speaker 5: head coach, because there's going to be a few of
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  Speaker 5: those guys out there. I think guys that were NFL
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  Speaker 5: head coaches that maybe not get a NFL Sure, Jolly
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  Speaker 5: Kenna Safanski or day Ball or mchan I know you
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  Speaker 5: mentioned him before. But there'll be some terrific guys out
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  Speaker 5: there I think available.
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  Speaker 2: The guy that I like, Jeff Mosher brought up to
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  Speaker 2: be yesterday, I think it's perfect fit is Todd Monkin
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  Speaker 2: because he's luth. The Ravens still in a contract, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously they had a head coaching change. Monk could
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  Speaker 2: run any kind of scheme you want because he's done
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel twelve ten, which is four receivers. They also
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  Speaker 2: do a lot of thirteen because they have three tenants.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Callers are thirty. He's a pretty good tight end
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  Speaker 2: out of Yeah, I Sean, So I like the diversity
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  Speaker 2: of personnel groupings that to me would be a perfect fit.
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  Speaker 2: And head heck Lamar Jackson's been an every Pano Tom market.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty good. And also you just mentioned guys head coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Could they not get someone who's gonna be wants to
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  Speaker 2: be a head coach again.
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  Speaker 6: For continuity purposes? No, absolutely, I was shocked this season
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  Speaker 6: that there wasn't sort of a senior consultant or anything
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  Speaker 6: like that, just to oversee it. They had a real
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  Speaker 6: young coaching staff. So Parks Fraser is about thirty five
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  Speaker 6: years old. He had just a little bit of an
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  Speaker 6: experienced calling plays with the Colts, they didn't really have
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  Speaker 6: anybody obvious that they could lean like Patoula could lean
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  Speaker 6: to him, be that sound used as a sounding board,
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  Speaker 6: like he was for Kellen Moore last season.
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  Speaker 2: All right, before we take a break, what you just
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  Speaker 2: said is important because after the Buffalo game, okay, because
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  Speaker 2: they were talking about getting plays in and timing and everything,
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  Speaker 2: and Nick was asked about something gonna happen and what
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  Speaker 2: happened the second half? Why they didn't score any points,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't Jalen have completed a pass the second half?
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  Speaker 2: And because hey, I have to help Kevin. And then
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  Speaker 2: a reporter asked to follow questioning Sean about about it,
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  Speaker 2: and he goes, well, look, it's kind of tough, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to coach the team. And that's when I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that's the perfect reason to have a senior offensive assistant.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to make that statement. I could, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he make that statement. Basically, what do you.
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  Speaker 3: Just admitted it?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, because I seem to be the only one
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  Speaker 2: in this market that picked that up. I'm like, you're
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• 14:35
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• 14:40
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• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Birds and the great Sean Landetta.
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  Speaker 3: Sean go to see again.
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  Speaker 4: So great to be here. Thank you, guys, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: For coming here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you for coming here. Roosaveelt Boulevard here.
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• 17:27
  Speaker 2: so we talk about Vin Patola he's out, uh and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: what to look for next.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Now we got to talk about the game.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I'll admit it, Sean, I thought there was no way
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that they'll lose it to the beat up San Francisco
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I'm still kind of a shock, Sean.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Did you think confidently that they'd win that game?
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: I absolutely did, And for the reason you said, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: it's interesting. There's reasons and excuses. Sure, a reason is
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: something that's true. An excuse is not so. The fact
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: that the forty nine ers had so many guys missing
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: that is a legitimate reason as to why you don't
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: think they'll be is good. No team is going to
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: be as good. Doesn't mean they won't be good, but
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: not as good if you don't have all those guys,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: and on top of it, you lose Kittle. Would he
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: get lost in the second quarter?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Second?
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: I mean again, I mean so surprising.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I mean ten years down the road, you might have
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: a few of those guys sitting around looking at each
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: other say you know what I mean, it could happen.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Can you believe winan beating that Eagles team, that defending
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: world champs at their place and we had thirteen guys
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: on IR and lost Kittle in the second quarter? Yeah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: you know, I was very surprised.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: They win the turnover battle, sakwon Barkley rushes for one
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: hundred and six yards. George Kittle leaves the game and
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: they still lose. I don't, you can't. You can't make
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: this up.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: And they scored twenty seven points. Oh they didn't score.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Ten or thirteen? I think twenty three? Yeah, twenty three.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: You know, if you if you ask the computer, how
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: many teams win an NFL game, we scored twenty three points,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: it might be about seventy percent.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Shaw brought party with phenomenal.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I know the both picks. One was clearly on him.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: He turned his body, which you can't do. In fact,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: greg O sell you know, you know Greg so Greg
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: told me that one of them would have been a
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: big play to Juwan Jennings over the middle, probably went
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: for forty yards, but he for some reason didn't go
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to him, and he turned his body and threw the cue.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: But Angel, let's get let's get to you in this thing.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Were you confident like I was, there's really no way
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that heals.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Will lose this game?
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was really confident, especially when they're down to
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: their fourth and fifth linebackers or whatever the case was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: But then down four linebackers.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: But then he saw the forty nine ers come out
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: with a confidence, right they and they attacked Quenyon Mitchell
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: on the second play of the game of sixty one
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: yards to DeMarcus Robinson. They go four plays later again
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: at Quenyon Mitchell for the touchdown. They look they seem
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: to enter that game with a chip on their shoulder,
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: like they wanted to go in there and really prove something.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: And I thought Kyle Shanahan did a tremendous job in
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: terms of play calling, schematically and all those things and
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: really took it to the Philadelphi Eagles and Adam I
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: got to say, I thought the middle of the field
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: for the Eagles defense got exploited big time, big time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: And I also thought they took advantage of the safety play.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I was wondering which team was going to be able
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: to do that. But I thought that Reed Blankenship at
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Marcus EPs didn't have particularly strong games.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that happens. Unfortunately. You know at the end of
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: every year as a player, you're gonna have games. You
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: want to play great every game. It's not gonna happen.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: You'll have games and for whatever reason, these days you
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: played great, and there will be a couple where you
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: didn't play that great, and obviously you don't want one
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: of those to be in a playoff game, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and that happens sometimes, you know, it's that perfect storm.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: The other way. You mentioned Robinson, I mean, God bless him.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: You know you look like Jerry Rice out there. What
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: do you have? Seven eight catches even yards?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, third one hundred yard game and only his third and.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: That big play again mentally, what that does for a team?
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: That's sixty one yard play right off the bat?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Wow, Andrew, you know, it's crazy.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: The Eagles finished the season, including the playoff, at five
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and four, Okay, at home.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: That is hard to believe at the link.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not have guessed that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it wasn't great. One game of a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: five hundred, surprising me. But still unpacking this game. Even
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: even as poorly as they played overall, they still had
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the lead late in the game and then they lost
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: it and then you saw the final play. But what
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: was Okay, let's take an overview because as we look
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: at this season, for both of you, because you watch
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: all the games, what was missing from this football team?
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Explosive plays, a dynamic rushing attack. I mean, foundationally we
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: all know that that's what they want to do, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: it was a grind. It was tough sledding. In terms
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: of the running game, they weren't able to get that
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: going and that put a spotlight on everything else. But defensively,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: you can't really ask for anything more than that. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: thought that they did a really good job oftentimes carrying
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: and picking up the tab for an offense that wasn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: reaching expectations. And that was a game where they needed
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: the offense to be able to help them out and
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: they weren't able to do it. So it's just been
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: something that has been a prevailing theme all season.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of agree. You know, when you look
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: back to last year, every year is different. But besides Barkley,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: the way it hurts ran the ball last year was
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: much different than when he ran this year.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Run this year. Yeah, and he that is such a
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: difference maker.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: You know, when I understand you want to have too
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: many called runs the injury factor, but his ability to
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: run is so great. And you know you mentioned the defense.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I mean when they went up there and held Buffalo
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: to six points. I won't know how many times in
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: the last seven eight years in Buffalo Josh Allen offense
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: has been held to six points. I mean, their defense
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I think was good enough to get it done this year.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I really do. We'll never know, but I think they were.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Sean brings up an interesting point about the running game.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: When Jay when Hurst calls himself a triple threat. I
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: believe it was in twenty twenty three. He mentioned his arm,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: his legs, and his mind. Well, when you take away
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: the running aspect, you are severely depriving the offense of
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: a component that makes them special.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: And very also said also being that plus.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: One in the running game unlocks the rushing attack as well.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: So I think to Shawn's point, that was something that
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: was really glaring. When when you look back on the.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Season, he something crazy about to Marcus Robinson. He was
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: not even on the roster week one. He was actually
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: suspended for three games. I mean Ricky Piersoll, who was
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: their first round pick last year, didn't play. He's got
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the PCLS brain. I'm just looking at this roster because
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and you talked about excuses. Okay, hey, you can't find any.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But as a player, okay, let me ask this question.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Do you remember leading up to a game where coaches
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: seemed over confident.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: You're head coach I have.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I can't say I have.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Most of the coaches I had, really, if anything, were like, hey,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I know there's teams one in eight, but five of
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: their losses are by four points or less. I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: you've got to go out and execute. I think all
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: the coaches I played for did a great job of that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that collectively the players can't be
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: in that frame of mind. Of course, no players ever
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: going to admit that, but it could be human nature.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: You know that, you look, you know the guy you're
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: playing against. He's hurt, and his backups hurt, and maybe
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: human nature is like playing against their third stringer. I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: going to be okay, Maybe you might not be okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, again, who knows Andrew.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Leading up to the game in the locker room last week?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: What did you send from the players leading up? Confidence level?
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Oh? They were upbeat out.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: I would say that Thursday's locker room was probably the loudest,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: most jovial that I can recall this season. And they
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: were a team that it felt like they were ready
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: for the moment. They've been there before. They knew that
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: their preparation was in order, and they were ready to
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: go play this game. And I mean I went into it,
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: you know, coupled with the fact that the forty nine
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: ers are banged up, knowing how the dynamic was with
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: the team and how the energy was was really positive.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: You got the sense they were going to go out there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying put up twenty seven points, but they
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: were going to take it to the forty nine ers,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: and that obviously didn't happen.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very surprising.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Again, you know, they scored enough points to win the game,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: but just again the opportunities so many that were missed,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: and you know the forty nine or some of the
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: plays they made. I mean, you know, Perty's a good quarterback,
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: but wow. And again McCaffrey, he was. He was exciting
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: in the past game, right. They showed him down the
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: run game.
• 25:05
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• 25:14
  Speaker 2: At two and five, it was six three six eight nine.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's two one five. It was six three, six eight nine.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Well Andrew the big injury Lane Johnson out he wound
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: up missing two months of play and Fred Johnson the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: yeoman's job.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: But this, this FRONC injury is a serious deal.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a serious injury. And he was listed as
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: limited Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Obviously you would like to have
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: seen a full participant designation on Friday. So it left
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: it up in the air and it seemed increasingly unlikely.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: Fred Johnson after the game said that it wasn't until
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Saturday that he realized that he got word that he
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: would be starting in that game. Oh, he did find
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: out that he found out on Saturday.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: So basically, could did you see Lane Warmont? I don't know.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: He wasn't.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: That's the other thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: So I was honest like you, I was on Lane
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Johnson watch, watching pregame, and he wasn't out there. You
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: started to see the starting offensive lineman come out there.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Then you saw Fred Johnson go out there and start
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: to take combo block reps with aside from beside Tyler Steen,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: and you're like, well, Lane's not.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: So odd about that, because I was told he did
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: very living to work but look good on what they
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: asked him to do. Whatever he could do, So maybe
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: he worked woke up, you know, because Saturdays will walk
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: through day Sean, you could walk you could wake up
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and go, man, my foot whatever.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: This it's a right midfoot spring, which is a serious injury.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe just felt he couldn't go and he let They
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: knew that, so they probably knew after the walk through.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's when you said you're Saddenly. Fred said that he
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: told the reporters in the locker room he kind of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: find out Saturday.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Well, and you never know.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I mean sometimes you have a setback late in the week.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: You know, Wednesday, okay, it's a little better, Thursday better. Oh,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Friday it's coming along. Maybe you push it a little
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: bit and you wake up Saturday. Oh man, this is
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: back to Tuesday again. Doesn't always happen, but that could
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: have happened for you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: As a punter. Do you participate in the walkthrough?
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, we're all there because they go through every
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: special teams playing oh wow, okay, you know they it's
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: almost like a game, you know, first down, second down,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: third down, situation pon team. Sure, you know, gonna punt
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: this way that way if you have a fake and
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: it's interesting you know with Andy. Andy loved to do fakes,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: but you had to do it perfect Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: If the littlest insignificant thing wasn't right, he wouldn't run it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Be like Andy, everything's perfect. That was a little muffin thing.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, it's got to be perfect.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we go out there and we go through, you.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Know, punt, punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, you know everything
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: with everyone else. You know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: That makes makes me laugh showan because when the Eagles
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: practice the Philly Special leading up to the Super Bowl
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and seventeen, they screwed it up so much Frank Breg said,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: we're done, We're not doing anymore. I don't know John g.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Flippo told me this because I was like, what He's like, Dude,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you don't know the whole story because I know the players.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I've talked about it. I've talked to Zach Ertz about
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it many years ago. But it isn't remarkable in that play,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that fully special play, how perfect it was the executioner.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: And that's so surprising to me to hear because with Andy,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I know on the special teams plays maybe it was
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: different than offense, but man, if it wasn't perfect, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: and a lot of times it was perfect, and most
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: of the time it did work when we did Harps
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: was Harves your coach? Yes, he was here the five
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: years I was here. I really enjoyed working with him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I think he's a terrific coach. You know, the way
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: he communicates with people, and you know, he's very cerebral,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: knows the game and doesn't surprise me one bit he's
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: had the success he's had.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: This this might make you laugh, and you know, I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: kind of a special teams junkie. Were your gunners Rashard Cook.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: And Damian Douglas.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Yes, and that's saying that's insane. Now you're going back
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: to ninety nine on twenty five years. That's twenty five
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: years ago. And both of them were outstanding. You know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Damien was here first four years with me and you
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: know he was from cal Yeah, they were both Because
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I know we were a little disappointed because they released
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: a guy who was a gunner the year before for
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: a couple of years who was great. I think he
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: went to Carolina. I forget who it was. Might have
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: been a receiver, but we were just like, oh man,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: he was so good.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: But they had to do that. But that's a great memory.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: You know, only real people who understand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Well, and Richard, he was a good.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Player, number four defensive. I might have been forty two.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I don't very good.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Is going back twenty five years.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Coaching out in California? Oh really Yeah, I spoke to
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: him about Jim oh so wild.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: That's great to hear.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Did he play on d always her special team? He played?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did a good size.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: He was like a pretty that's it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a very well built.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: He got a sack in the Bear Chicago, the Chicago
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: playoff game.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Sean, here's the thing growing up, because I shocked.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I think with Jim Fawenhorst. It was a left tackle
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: for the Niners. I remember Jim, so what happened is
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: is a kid Andrew. I learned players by number first,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: not name. Now I can't keep track. Is a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to have any number. I don't know who's I literally,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I know Ringo is Ringo seventy seven. Yeah, but I
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: know Hurts is one. I know a J's Alett. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: like growing up in Philly, I could do the Flyers.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Bernie was one. I could go thirty five.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I can't, I can't, I can't keep.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: From sports today are so transient, ye you know, before
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three, we had no free agency in the NFL,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: so we were crushed as far as what we could
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: get compensation wise. But we stayed in the same place
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: for a long time. And there's a lot to be
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: sent for that because the community got to know you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: People got to know you. They knew who you were.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: You were there, you know them, and that that's something
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: that's missed. Most of these guys today missed that, and
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: that was a great thing.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: That's why I knew you were number seven.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was five years I wore number seven, And
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: did you wear five for the Giants? I did wear
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: five for almost ten years there, you know, so that's
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: like fifteen years, you know, continuity, you know, that's right, That's.
• 30:40
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  Speaker 2: and EGO Great Sean Landetta number seven when he was
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: with Eagles pots both times.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Both times.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Nice? Oh you know what? Actually, here's the question, Jaws
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: us seven. Do you have to ask permission?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'll tell you a little of this
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: story go ahead, and a funny story about my number.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: So I didn't have to. But just out of respect,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I asked Ron, I said, are you okay with me? Maries.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: He said, absolutely, you didn't have to ask, but so
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: nice that you did. So I'm in Green Bay in
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: ninety eight. I'm going to go back coaching staff Leaf.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: They all go to Seattle, and I don't know what
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do. I'm an older player. I didn't know
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: where the Eagles hire Andy. He was our quarterback coach.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: And do you know just you talk about it. Oh,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: by the way, I'm in La on vacation.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Give Andy a call, just say congrats, Andy, congrats on
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the job. How you doing? He says, what are you doing?
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Said the greatest words ever. Would you be interested in
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: competing for the job in Philly? I mean I almost
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: jumped through the phone because I grew up in Baltimore,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I'd played here in the USF and I lived in
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: New York. I mean I still had to make the team,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: but he'd seen me practice every day and I was
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: still playing well. So we come to the first mini
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: camp and I'm going to wear number five. So I
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: wear five first mini camp before the draft. Thursday night
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: before the draft, Andy calls and he's like, hey, quick question,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: you were number five in mini.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Camp, right? I said yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: He goes, would you be up to wearing another number? Possibly?
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I said yeah, that's fine, and he goes, okay, because
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: you know, I want to draft the kid and he
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: really wants number five. So right there, he already knew it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I knew who they were going to draft, you know.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: And I remember I said, I said, you know what, Andy,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: that's no problem, and it turned out to be true.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I said that kid's probably going to be here ten
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: years and I hope he does well.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: And if that's that's.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Important to him, no worries, that's awesome. And I kind
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: of felt bad after the second part.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: He goes, what else have you worn? I said, I've
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: worn five and.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Seven and he goes, okay, uh, you know, we'll see
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: if seven becomes available. I said, okay, no problem, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: that was it. Then a little later I thought to myself,
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: I wonder if there's a seven on the team, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I looked up and it was Bobby Hoyne.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right a way.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: I first thought was when he said, well maybe that
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: could be available, I'm like, that mean Bobby's.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Not here exactly.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: He gave me really good you know, but don.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: And I told him that story with his father after
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: his career, and his eyes got big. Donovant, I said, Donovant,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I could have charged you ten grand like other acts too,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and I just didn't feel good. I said, you know
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: what I'd like? He said what I said, can you
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: buy me a vanilla milkshake? I said, no problem. I
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: still haven't.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I'm still waiting for it. Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: But anyway, the reason McNab wre five because Andy said, look,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: you know you're the veteran with the most experienced you
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: don't have to do this. I said, I understand if
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: it's that big a deal. So that's how Donovan got
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: number five.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: How about that's a that's a great story.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So it's unpacked it I'm like, wow, that's crazy. By
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  Speaker 2: dot com. So Sean you brought up before this last break, Hey,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: he goes have a lot of free agents. Well guess
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: what they do, and we're gonna get started. So here,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go over all of them. And obviously there's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: some key ones we'll go over the we'll go with
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the guys quickly that probably won't be here. Can I
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: ask how many free agency I'm going to have a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I think about roughly twenty twenty. Now you got to
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: understand a lot of guys in one year deals.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, but still twenty damn how.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: They made the trade? That's a lot yep. Aj Dillon
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: was on a one year deal. Johan Dodson's contract is expiring.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Dallas Gott resigned for a one year deal. Colin Granson
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: was on a one year deal. Fred Johnson was on
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a one year deal. Brett Toath's contract expired, Matt Prior
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: was in a one year deal. Jenleen Phillips is on
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: expiring contract. Josh Usha on a one year deal. Obo Conker,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: who suffered a major injury, is on a one year deal.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Brandon Graham, of course, is on a one year deal.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Nakobe's contract, Dean's constracts is expiring. Zizo Jela one year,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: four million, his contract expiring. Jorry Jackson he signed one year.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: This Mike said, Howie record for one year deals, Marcus
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Apps one year deal and reads read blankaship right now,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: we'll have his contract extension contract expire.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's a lot.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's there's great Man.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, braid Man.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he can't forget Braden Man. Yeah, there there's a
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of expiring contracts. You mentioned Sam Howese.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: I'm looking at your list here. I would try to
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: find a way to bring him back, depending on what
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: you're able to do with with with McKee. To have
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: someone like Sam House if they if they're if they're
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: able to move off of McKee and trade them, Depending
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: it would make sense to have someone there like a
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Sam Howe to be the number two. Sure, and then
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: but then the big question becomes the Kobe Dean read
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: blanket Ship. Jalen Phillips, I mean, NA, Kobe Dean is
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: the heartbeat of the Eagles defense. That being said, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: Eagles drafted Jahide Campbell in the first round for a reason.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: It's a luxury to have three starting caliber linebackers, not
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: a necessity. So it's hard for me to envision n
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Kobe Dean coming back. Read Blankenship didn't have a particularly
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: good season from a coverage standpoint, but vic Vango really
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: likes him. He's smart, He's always in the right spot,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: and that goes a long way when and you consider
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: the fact that safeties and linebackers have a considerable responsibility
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: in a Vic Fangio defense. Still, though, I think you
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: could stand to get a little bit more athletic on
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: the back end. Pairsonbody with Drew mccouba, and that's kind
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: of the way that I'm seeing that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Well. Speaking of that, the big question is where does
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Cooper Degene play next year? Is he a nickel?
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, safety, I think he's a nickel And he mentioned
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: that during clean out that he really likes playing there.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: He goes, I'll do whatever they need me to do.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: That's the point.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: He said.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: He likes being involved with the run and things like that,
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: and Vic Vangil most importantly likes having him there for
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: all those reasons.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Because there was Sean there was a there was a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: discussion around the league when Degene was drafted because you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he was strictly a corner at at Iowa. You know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: would he be a good corner at the at the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: NFL level because that one of the reasons why he
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: was not a first round pick is clubs were unsure
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: because he's a great athlete, what do you line him
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: up corner, safety or Nickel and Vic Fancher's way carries
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a lot. You actually were with Vic with the Stars
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: in eighty five, so you know when he was in
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: his twenties crazy, But when you look at it, Vic
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is a genius. I don't know if you knew it
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: then in his twenties, well, we couldn't know it then.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: For actually, nineteen eighty three, I'm sorry. He was a
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a three forty three years ago. You know, he was
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: kind of an assistant, helping out, and nobody could know
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: he was going to be. But boy, he was around
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: great coaches and what a career he's had.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Jim Johnson, you around him a little bit, yes, Jim,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: the five years I was here, what'd you think, Oh,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Jim Johnson.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: You know it's interesting.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I tell people there's never been you look at a
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: head coaching a coaching photo of an NFL team, eight
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: guys off of that coaching staff between ninety nine and
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: five became head coaches. There's never been eight guys off
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: one staff become head coaches. And the one guy who
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't was the most coveted. That was Jim Johnson. Jim
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: told me personally he turned down the forty nine er job.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I was having lunch with him one time in there,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: and you know, he was coveted and he interviewed with
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers and it just didn't work out. But
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: he could have been a head coach, There's no doubt.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: And can you imagine nine guys. You know, Sean McDermott
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: was an assistant d back coach. Les Fraser was our
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: d bat coach. Spagnolo was our assistant d bat coach.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Ron Ron Rivera was our linebacker coach Shermer was our
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: tight end coach. My coach, John Harball. Brad Childress was
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: our offensive coordinator receivers coach David Cully.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I got one more for you who coming to maybe
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I think you were. Were you there with Ron Rivera? Yes, yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: came a head coach.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: No we mentioned.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I think I just named the age assistance and that
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: doesn't count. Yeah, you know who was the most covered
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: we got? You know, think about that off and this
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: is when coach has only had fourteen guys. Now there's
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: twenty five coaches exactly. I mean, is that crazy? Go
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: back and look at one of those coaching pictures back then,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: and it's just unbelievable.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: So this this one's interesting. Dallas Goddter had an obviously career.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: He was great.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: He's now thirty one years old. They have no one
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: to replace him, Okay, no one, No one on the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: roster could replace him. Andrew to me, I think you
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: take the same approach with him if he's willing to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a one year deal for like ten million.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Now I know the Eagles have a bunch of gussy.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Could extend Tyler not Chilish, Tyler Stet talking to get
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: He's eligible to get his contract extend, but it's not
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: going to get done. Ojomo Carter, Jorin Davison, Nolan Smith.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I don't see donland Smith getting extended. But getting back
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: to Dallas Godder. He hit a great year and we'll
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: see what the new OC does with whoever the tight
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: end is. But wouldn't you consider bringing god Her back?
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't even think twice about it. I would
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: if it's a modest deal and it works out, you
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: bring him back on a one year deal. You draft
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: the tight end, ideally with the in the second or
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: third round to develop and learn under him, and then
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: take the reins when Dallas Goddard eventually moves on. But
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: It's hard to envision a team thing being willing to
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: throw the at Dallas Goddard at thirty one years old.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: But I will say that watching him in the postgame
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: locker room, he had tears in his eyes, and well, yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: and Jordanilata said that he didn't start crying until he
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: saw Dallas Goddard because they played together for eight years,
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: and you never know if it's going to be the
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: last time to play with somebody. And that's the human
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: aspect that I think gets lost in this.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I would.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: I would if i'd the egles, I'm bringing him back.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: What a run on tight ends, right, Brent Selick, zach
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Ertz and Dallas Goddard. I mean, that's twenty years of
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: really good tight ends.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Sean, When you would, let's say your contract was up
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: right and it was the last game to se whether
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: it was a playoffs, regular seas would say you're goodbyes
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: hit guys, I may not see you again.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I would never say that. I think about it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I think about it. You know, you kind of look
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: around and you think, you know this reality. You know
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: this guy right here next to me for the last
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: four years, you know, see him every day I may
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: never see him again, you know, if I hits up
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: signing in Phoenix and he goes somewhere else.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Who was your locker neighbor? Well at who was it?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: What was NW Miracles?
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: So it was Acres was two I think over at
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: the Vet Acres McNabb, me koy detmer aj Feely, you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: it was like five or six, then a brilliant fourteen
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, Phely fourteen probably yeah, yeah, because so
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: that's how they did it there.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And then we moved over to the Nova Care Center.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: It was similar, but there were more lockers together, but
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: usually we it was always the punters and kickers.
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  Speaker 1: Here are your hosts from Inside the Birds, Adam Kaplan
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  Speaker 2: Oh all right, everyone, Welcome back to the Pro Football
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  Speaker 2: sports dot com. It's Adam Kaplan and editor Checko from
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  Speaker 2: Inside the Birds and our good friend Seawan Landetta, former
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  Speaker 2: Eagles punter.
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  Speaker 3: We should be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Well, thank you. Maybe one day I've
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  Speaker 4: been on the I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: How you're not. You're in every other, every other You've
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  Speaker 3: been voted everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well deserved saying that.
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  Speaker 5: I've been on the ballot the last thirteen years. So
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  Speaker 5: maybe the old timers we'll see. But it's just nice
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  Speaker 5: to be nice.
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  Speaker 4: To be on there. I'll be there, and I'll be
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: there when that day happen.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: You know what happens, You're going. You guys will be
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: their VIP if I go on. I appreciate it. Andrew,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: I absolutely I went.
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  Speaker 2: When I worked at ESPN, I work with drum battist
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and Bill Pollan. I had never been there. I was like,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I drove there. I was like, I'll drive. I gotta
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: go because I knew Bill better than I knew Bus.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: But Jerome's the nicest guy in the world. And Bill
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: just learned to be able to sit in a production
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  Speaker 2: meeting with this guy it was just like, is this
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  Speaker 2: really happening?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't even imagine how it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: But all right, guys, so this is our last segment
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  Speaker 2: here and we've talked about the game. Also, we should
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: mention again Kevin Petula being replaced as offensive coordinator. It's
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: always fascinating with the Eagles because even when they make
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, they make changes and Sean, this is one
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: of the things I appreciate with Jeffer Leurey. I'm sorry
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: that Kevin Petouol lost his job, but it's demanding of excellence.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And to start the show, you know, I asked you
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: about if you knew what really the word around coaches
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: who have worked in that building is you better have
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: a world class offense. There's pressure, there's pressure, but how
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: he does a great job of getting players, but you gotta.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Win with them and that's the name of the game.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Well, there's no question you look at those players on
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: that offense. I mean, the way they're paid, the quality
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: of those players, it absolutely is good enough to win
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: We saw that last year.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: And you know, if he wants offense, he's got and
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: how he's done a great job and for the most part,
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: the players have played well. Now, we talked before, sometimes
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: you don't have a good game at the worst time.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: You saw what happened with Brown the other day. But
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: they've got offensive players. I mean, they'll they'll resign who
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: they feel, they'll draft, They'll probably get a few free agents.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: But you know, I feel with the quarterback, you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: and the pieces they have in place, this offense looks
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: good for a while. I know things change year to year,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: but you know, Jalen, he's still young as much more's
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: veteran as Yeah, he's not thirty one or thirty two,
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, He's still coming into his
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: prime as great as he's been. But it'll be interesting
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: to see what they do offensive wise, especially for the fact,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: like you said, Jeffrey, he really you know, cherishes that.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew, where's this team right now?
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Is this.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Good? Very good? Needs a lot? Like where do you
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: see this team right now?
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's a good football team, But philosophically, they're
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: going to have to change some things if they want
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: the offense to be able to match the talent that
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: they have. Defensively, you're gonna have to start making some
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  Speaker 6: decisions and signing some of these players, because as we
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: just looked at, there are some difficult young players who
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: you need to be able to retain. But I think
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: this is a good football team. And as long as
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Nick Sirianni's there and the leadership Jeffrey Lorie, Howie Roseman
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: and Jay when Hurts is the quarterback, I think they're
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: gonna be just fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's a good mixture of some veterans and
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: young talent. But they got to get on the same
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: pitch with their offense. They got we know it's gonna
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: go through the run game, we get that, but they're
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: gonna have to find, Sean a coordinator who's gonna want it,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: not like coach hurt Tops you're coming here, you know
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you're coaching them, but it's got to figure out how
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to get the best of them. And that has not
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: been able to happen since twenty two and then, quite frankly,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the league Andrew and Sean once they saw what the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Eagles were trying to do with a deep.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Pass the game. Ever since then, not all.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: They basically don't get consistently deep with the pass game
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: anymore for whatever reason.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: And that's surprising because you look at their two receivers,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: they're terrific, and he said, we all know Hurts throws
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: a great deep ball. I mean, you know that's got
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: to come back very quickly. I would think this would
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: be a very coveted. I mean, if I'm an offensive coordinator,
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: not many places I'd want to call more than this
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: with my quarterback, that running back and those receivers, you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: and knowing that they want to throw the ball. I mean,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: they should be able to attract the top notch or
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: maybe the best coordinator out there, and.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: If they do well, they're likely to be considerable very quickly.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: But geez, again, any coach you want to come into
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: situation where your players are terrific, how many teams out
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: of thirty two in this league, the running back, the quarterback,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: and the two receivers, maybe you can only equal is
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: what the Eagles put out there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Andrew, my one concern on offense, other than getting Hurts
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: back or trying to get him.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: To prove the offensive line you got it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: You're going there because I just and Andrew, You and
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I have talked about this on on on our show
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: here Pro Football Report many times.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: We didn't see this coming. Their regression was major. It
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't slight. It was significant. Now let's go left.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: The right Jordan my lot as I've heard and I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: think Jeff said he kind of confirmed this. He felt
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: your beat up.
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  Speaker 6: He just said that all season.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: So that's a left tackle, so he just is got
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: to get off his feet right. The left guard is
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: is Lannon Dickerson. He did not have a good year.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what his weight is. He he's had
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: a bunch of surgeries. He's had I think at least
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: four knee surgeries in his career.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: Well, he's had at least four or five different injuries
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: this season alone.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, So let me it's a former player. When
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: you feel beat up, do you say I got to
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: decompressed for a coup? Like, how do you get your
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: your mojo back at your energy and feel good?
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Well, that's very difficult because most of the time their
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: injuries are worse than players will say. You want to play,
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: you know how you feel, I'm feeling pretty good.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: You're not.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: But you want to play, you know, so you're gonna practice. Really,
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: you're heard a little more than you should. Well, you
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: never want another guy to come in and play behind you,
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: even if you're a great player, and there's no doubt. Again,
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: you talk about excuse. I don't think it's an excuse.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: If Lane Johnson or Dickerson or these other guys aren't
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: who the name on the back of their jersey says
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: they are because of the injuries, that's a legitimate reason.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: You know, people say injuries don't matter. We'll take out
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: your five best players and tell me that's not an excuse,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: it's reality. Of course, you know, it's a legit reason.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: So there's no question to me that that was probably
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  Speaker 5: part of it. I mean, we'll never know, but if
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Lane Johnson is Lane Johnson healthy out there the whole
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: time and did the same thing with him, things different.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: We don't know, but there's a ninety percent chance it
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: would have been different for the better.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: And Cam Jurgens as well.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Another one, another one. You're talking three of the five
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: guys right there.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Greg.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: You know, Greg did our show inside the tape the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: offensive We were not like going We're seawn last week's game.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I want to ask Greg about the season. Get I
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: gotta be honest, it's totally tape based information. Hit a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: bad season he wouldn't himself and having back surgery. We
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: know for fact that at Nebraska he had lower body issues.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: The guy's are really good athlete, sewing a really good
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: football player, but man, when you're not right physically, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: let's not forget their all season went longer because they
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: won Super Bowl, so you know, you know, when you're
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: in the deep of the playoffs, man, your body.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: And again a player, unfortunately, because that will sound like
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: an excuse, why didn't you play better? Well, I'm not
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent. I'm really beat up. You know, no
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: one wants to hear it. You can't say even though
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: that's a legitimate reason, you'd say, you're not gonna say that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: But let's see, we'll never know. Next year everything could
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: be so much better. And it's like, what was the difference?
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Well, you never know. Three or five linemen all of
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: a sudden they're healthy again.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this defense.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Andrew h very pleasantly surprised at how they turn things
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: around after really after the Jalen Phillips trade. I know
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: he'd have a ton of sacks. Pressure a was good,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: but he did a good job. They seem to get
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: better after that trade. Do you what's the state of
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: the defense right now.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean his contracts up, so that's that's gonna
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: be key. I they think his arrival coincided with Jaywalkes
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: Hunts breakout was the Eagles best pass rusher late in
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: the season. I think Jalen Phillips, knowing his age and
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: how he impacts the players around him, would be beneficial
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: to try and find a way to get him under contract.
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: But then you have someone like Drew mccooba. And I
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: saw Drew mccooba at at Dorian Locker clean out. He
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: fractured his fibula. He's still in a walking boot. That's
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: he supposed to come off soon and he's hoping to
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: be back for spring practices. But that's another young player
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: that I think you can count on next season, adding
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: some athleticism to the back end. Of course, you have
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Quinna Mitchell and Cooper dejen and some of those younger
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: players on the defensive line as well that I think
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: they're in a really good spot.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Well, again, you look at the defense, how good they
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: were we talked about before, you know, so many games.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: You know, they kept him in again, that Buffalo game
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: was unbelievable. How they kept that offense to only six points.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: So you know again, you know, I'm almost going to
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: look back at how he's just amazing how he's been
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: able to keep getting good players on that defense. You know,
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: you mentioned Dean, He's really a good ballplayer. They're going
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: to bring him back. I'd like to think they will
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: tough it. Campbe's got to play. Yeah, I know, but
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: this guy's a good play.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: You know. Hate to walk away from that, I know,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: I made sure that I walked up to him yesterday,
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: shook his hand, thanked him for the time and the
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: professionalism that he showed over the four years that I
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: got to cover him. And he said he doesn't want
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: to be anywhere else.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Each actually changed agents.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: So and with the way and with the way they
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: can work the cap, we all this is the most
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: softest cap in the history of the world. You know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: in real money, you can pay out three hundred and
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: fifty million, but the cap says, I'm prevent corract.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: The way that Eagles they found this.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Bryce Johnson, who works in their salary cap department, found
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: this sort of loophole. They have option bonuses in every
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: veterans contract. So what happens is they they through the
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: contract second year, it looks like the base salary might
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: be a million, but they have to exercise the option bonus.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Then the money jumps up. But the early part of
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: the contract is low. Then it starts growing. And now
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Sean with a bunch of free agents, a lot of
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the citizens to make. Andrew, I wonder if they'll get
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: their d lineman all done this year. I know we're
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: they're gonna probably get one or two, but they have
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: three guys are up for extension.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Be interesting.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Obviously, the injuries are going to be a factor here
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: when you look at Jay when Carter and the shoulder and.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Things that both.
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's something that they could come into play.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: Moro Jomo has been a really good story of development
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: for a seventh round pick, six sacks this season, and
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: I think they want to find a way to keep
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: him in house as well.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: All Right, everyone, we thank you for listening. This is
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