Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 22 October
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- 0:15Speaker 1: Tonight, the Prime Minister tells another lie about the dirt
- 0:18Speaker 1: sheet that his office put out about Helen Haynes, plus
- 0:21Speaker 1: the case of..... a case that shows how desperate Labor
- 0:26Speaker 1: is to use multiculturalism to bribe religious groups for votes.
- 0:31Speaker 1: You won't believe the video. Plus a strange... face of
- 0:35Speaker 1: the riots in France, telling shopkeepers to suck up being looted.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Plenty more, including Barnaby Joyce. But first, back in June,
- 0:45Speaker 1: I got a text from one of our top lobbying
- 0:48Speaker 1: companies and it said, hi, Andrew, saw your piece on
- 0:52Speaker 1: Ben Roberts Smith. Would you like to talk to Ben? Because,
- 0:55Speaker 1: you know, he was apparently keen to talk to me.
- 0:59Speaker 1: And I said, sure. I never heard another word, which
- 1:02Speaker 1: is not surprising. Now, you know, I may be billed
- 1:07Speaker 1: as the best red columnist in the country, you know,
- 1:10Speaker 1: with the largest audience on News 24, but I don't
- 1:15Speaker 1: tolerate bull. It makes me a good platform, a natural platform,
- 1:19Speaker 1: but I don't tolerate bull or play sides or play
- 1:23Speaker 1: for applause. And I have made clear that the charges
- 1:26Speaker 1: against Ben Robert Smith, they're extremely serious and must be
- 1:30Speaker 1: sorted out in a court. and not by a campaign
- 1:34Speaker 1: outside it, a campaign which includes spin, big bucks, politics,
- 1:39Speaker 1: a hunger for clicks and appeals to the mob. And
- 1:43Speaker 1: for all the abuse I will once again get tonight
- 1:47Speaker 1: from people who are told that this is about defending
- 1:49Speaker 1: a patriot, I am going to speak out again. You see,
- 1:55Speaker 1: I may never have heard again from Robert Smith, but
- 1:59Speaker 1: I sure am suddenly hearing now a lot of about
- 2:03Speaker 1: our war hero, the VC winner, who has now been
- 2:05Speaker 1: charged with five alleged war crimes. And you are hearing
- 2:08Speaker 1: a lot too, especially today.
- 2:11Speaker 2: When you know that you would have died for this country,
- 2:19Speaker 2: it stings a little bit.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Now, this is a part of an interview that we're
- 2:26Speaker 1: going to run on News 24 at 8.30 tonight, backed
- 2:27Speaker 1: by Articles in our News Corp newspapers you may have
- 2:32Speaker 1: already read. Papers that have been given photographs by Robert
- 2:36Speaker 1: Smith of him as a child. And, of course, this
- 2:39Speaker 1: is a legitimate news story. He must be allowed to
- 2:41Speaker 1: have his say. But you also need to know that
- 2:45Speaker 1: for Robert Smith, this is also part of a coordinated
- 2:49Speaker 1: campaign by him and his backers. That includes now his
- 2:54Speaker 1: girlfriend releasing a video on Instagram of happy snaps of
- 2:56Speaker 1: Ben Robert Smith and his new line of clothing called
- 3:00Speaker 1: the Epic 1-2, named after his call sign in the
- 3:02Speaker 1: Special Air Services Regiment. And this campaign includes also a
- 3:07Speaker 1: pre-recorded and long interview with Ben Fordham on 2GB this morning.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Just think about if it was your son or your
- 3:16Speaker 2: husband or your brother in that position, would you like
- 3:21Speaker 2: them to have a fair go? That's all I'm asking,
- 3:23Speaker 2: just some perspective and a bit of bloody fairness, mate.
- 3:28Speaker 1: And there's more. One of the two billionaires backing Robert Smith,
- 3:31Speaker 1: mining tycoon Gina Reinhart, invited him to last week help
- 3:35Speaker 1: open a home for mentally wounded veterans that she has funded,
- 3:40Speaker 1: with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson also there, also backing
- 3:43Speaker 1: Robert Smith. In fact, Hanson's Please Explain cartoon keeps attacking
- 3:47Speaker 1: Liberal frontbencher Andrew Hastie, calling him a traitor. Just a joke,
- 3:51Speaker 1: they say. And I know there's also behind the scenes
- 3:56Speaker 1: a powerful campaign to smear Hastie as a traitor... even
- 3:59Speaker 1: though he's actually a former SAS captain who's put his
- 4:02Speaker 1: life on the line for us. And this campaign to
- 4:05Speaker 1: smear him is quite obvious. It's because he was one
- 4:07Speaker 1: of the, well, about 40 former and current soldiers to
- 4:11Speaker 1: give evidence when Robert Smith sued the nine newspapers for
- 4:16Speaker 1: accusing him of war crimes, and he lost. Now, I
- 4:21Speaker 1: know for a fact about this campaign of denigration because
- 4:24Speaker 1: I was approached to be part of it, approached in
- 4:27Speaker 1: confidence by someone else, so... I can't say more. But
- 4:31Speaker 1: in that defamation case that he lost, Robert Smith appealed
- 4:36Speaker 1: to the full federal court and lost again. The court
- 4:40Speaker 1: found that he had given false evidence and that he
- 4:43Speaker 1: had changed his story, that on the balance of the evidence,
- 4:47Speaker 1: he had indeed shot or ordered the shooting of unarmed,
- 4:51Speaker 1: bound prisoners, and it wasn't, as some still claim, including here,
- 4:57Speaker 1: It wasn't shot in the heat of battle, in the
- 5:01Speaker 1: fog of war. Since then, his loss in court, he's
- 5:07Speaker 1: been charged with five such alleged war crimes and now
- 5:11Speaker 1: faces trial by jury and with a higher standard of proof,
- 5:14Speaker 1: not on the balance of probabilities now, but beyond reasonable doubt. Now,
- 5:19Speaker 1: let me be clear. Robert Smith must be presumed innocent.
- 5:24Speaker 1: He is also brave. And he risked his life for
- 5:28Speaker 1: us and is entitled to fight like hell to save
- 5:31Speaker 1: himself from being jailed as a war criminal. Indeed, he's
- 5:35Speaker 1: now going full out to tell us he is a
- 5:37Speaker 1: war hero being made a scapegoat by the deep state,
- 5:41Speaker 1: by failed politicians and, you know, officers who failed as well.
- 5:50Speaker 1: And that's the kind of red meat that One Nation
- 5:52Speaker 1: voters and battlers, they especially love.
- 5:58Speaker 2: No strategy, no win. 42 guys dead, over 200 wounded.
- 6:04Speaker 2: And what are we still talking about? We're talking about
- 6:06Speaker 2: a private and a corporal who have been alleged to
- 6:10Speaker 2: have done the wrong thing on a mission because it's
- 6:13Speaker 2: a great distraction.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Now, many people watching tonight will find Ben Robert Smith
- 6:20Speaker 1: very persuasive and fellow hosts here clearly do as well,
- 6:23Speaker 1: as do the guests that they have chosen. Yet there
- 6:27Speaker 1: are things you should know. I'm not now going to
- 6:31Speaker 1: act like a prosecutor and go line by line through
- 6:33Speaker 1: what Robert said, fact check, you know, what he said
- 6:37Speaker 1: this morning to Ben Fordham, what he's going to say
- 6:39Speaker 1: tonight to us. These really are matters for the court.
- 6:44Speaker 1: And I do not want to see him found guilty.
- 6:47Speaker 3: I do not.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Unless he is guilty, but I don't... You know, I don't... No,
- 6:52Speaker 1: I don't have... a dog in this fight. But two
- 6:57Speaker 1: things in particular I do want to address, and not
- 7:00Speaker 1: least because they do demonstrate the need to at least
- 7:03Speaker 1: keep an open mind, to not automatically accept everything Robert
- 7:07Speaker 1: Smith says. For instance, he says he's fighting a government
- 7:11Speaker 1: whose tamed police are intimidating witnesses. In fact, the only
- 7:16Speaker 1: evidence in court so far of witnesses being intimidated are
- 7:18Speaker 1: the three witnesses the Federal Court says were intimidated by
- 7:23Speaker 1: Robert Smith himself. is also found to have colluded with one.
- 7:29Speaker 1: And what's more, one of his own witnesses, an SAS major,
- 7:32Speaker 1: even told the Federal Court that four SAS sergeants told
- 7:36Speaker 1: him a decade ago that Ben Robert Smith was unfit
- 7:39Speaker 1: to be awarded the Victoria Cross. They accused him of
- 7:42Speaker 1: claiming battlefield kills made by other soldiers, accused him of
- 7:45Speaker 1: bullying fellow soldiers. Whatever.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Now.
- 7:52Speaker 1: He is, I have to say, completely right to be
- 7:56Speaker 1: outraged in these interviews that someone in government or its
- 7:58Speaker 1: security agencies tipped off reporters. Tipped them off so there
- 8:03Speaker 1: were TV crews to witness him getting arrested at Sydney
- 8:07Speaker 1: Airport over these alleged war crimes. And that was something
- 8:10Speaker 1: I absolutely condemned at the time. It's appalling. That said,
- 8:14Speaker 1: there is still a hunt for the leaker. It was
- 8:16Speaker 1: not sanctioned by the Australian Federal Police, as some conspiracy
- 8:20Speaker 1: theorists suggest. And I may have something to reveal about
- 8:23Speaker 1: that soon. But back to the interviews today. There was
- 8:29Speaker 1: also this admission by Robert Smith that the vast majority
- 8:33Speaker 1: of witnesses in his federal court defamation case were in
- 8:35Speaker 1: fact fellow soldiers. They were not Afghans or civilians who
- 8:40Speaker 1: know nothing of battle, as some people still insist. Those
- 8:46Speaker 1: witnesses in that court case included 19 SAS soldiers, fellow
- 8:54Speaker 1: SAS soldiers, past and present, most of whom testified against him.
- 8:59Speaker 2: I mean, there was 19. I accept that. The majority
- 9:02Speaker 2: of them were subpoenaed and didn't want to be there.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Out of those 19 guys during that case, four of
- 9:11Speaker 2: those people gave evidence or direct evidence to these allegations.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Now, that's actually misleading. Ben Robert Smith there is excluding
- 9:24Speaker 1: eyewitnesses who saw a very great deal. Let me take
- 9:27Speaker 1: you through one of the killings examined by the federal court,
- 9:30Speaker 1: for which Robert Smith has since been charged, and again,
- 9:33Speaker 1: he pleads innocent. In April 2009, Robert Smith, then a corporal,
- 9:39Speaker 1: was among SAS soldiers searching a compound in Afghanistan for
- 9:43Speaker 1: weapons and for any Taliban guerrillas. Now, three federal court
- 9:47Speaker 1: judges wrote in their judgment, this is in the appeal,
- 9:51Speaker 1: that two Afghan nationals were discovered in a concealed tunnel
- 9:55Speaker 1: and brought out into a courtyard. The judges say one
- 9:59Speaker 1: was an old man. the other a man with a
- 10:01Speaker 1: prosthetic leg. They were tied up and Robert Smith brought
- 10:05Speaker 1: one to a private referred to as Person 4, name withheld.
- 10:10Speaker 1: The judges write, Robert Smith kicked the old man in
- 10:13Speaker 1: the back of the legs just behind the knees until
- 10:15Speaker 1: he was kneeling in front of Person 4. He then
- 10:18Speaker 1: pointed at the old man and said to Person 4,
- 10:21Speaker 1: shoot him. Person 4 did so with a single shot
- 10:24Speaker 1: to the old man's head and the judges say Robert
- 10:26Speaker 1: Smith was then later spotted by two SAS soldiers, frog-marching
- 10:30Speaker 1: the one-legged man outside and one saw Robert Smith throw
- 10:34Speaker 1: the man on the ground on his back. Robert Smith
- 10:37Speaker 1: reached down, grabbed the man by the shoulder and flipped
- 10:39Speaker 1: him over to his stomach. He then lowered his machine
- 10:41Speaker 1: gun and shot approximately three to five rounds into the man. Now,
- 10:47Speaker 1: One of the witnesses in this particular incident, one that
- 10:53Speaker 1: Robert Smith is not including among the four soldiers, he say,
- 10:59Speaker 1: were directly witnessing, said the shootings, was a soldier who
- 11:04Speaker 1: said he'd heard and seen Robert Smith ordering the execution
- 11:10Speaker 1: of the old man. He didn't want to watch, so
- 11:12Speaker 1: he ducked inside a door, heard the shot, looked out
- 11:15Speaker 1: and saw the Afghan man dead in the sand, bleeding
- 11:19Speaker 1: into the ground. Now, this is the evidence of the
- 11:27Speaker 1: story of a soldier that Robert Smith says can't be
- 11:32Speaker 1: included in those four witnesses. I think that's pretty powerful stuff.
- 11:37Speaker 1: The guy also said that the soldier that Robert Smith
- 11:39Speaker 1: had ordered to shoot, that Afghan, looked shocked. Now, Robert Smith,
- 11:45Speaker 1: of course, denies seeing any execution at all, denies these
- 11:49Speaker 1: bodies were implanted with weapons to make them look like
- 11:51Speaker 1: they'd been shot fighting. But that was also contradicted by
- 11:56Speaker 1: an SAS soldier who had actually found and photographed the
- 11:58Speaker 1: weapons stored somewhere else before they were found on the bodies. Now,
- 12:05Speaker 1: I get it. There are a lot of people who,
- 12:08Speaker 1: despite all that, say, so what? Why prosecute our own? Well,
- 12:12Speaker 1: here's why. Because we are shamed and put in danger
- 12:16Speaker 1: if we allow allegations of such conduct in our name.
- 12:21Speaker 1: There's a moral issue. I mean, for us, supposedly only
- 12:24Speaker 1: barbarians murder their prisoners. And that's why we loathe the Nazis, say,
- 12:27Speaker 1: for executing five Australian airmen caught after the Great Escape.
- 12:32Speaker 1: That's why we condemn Japan for beheading Australian Commando Sergeant
- 12:36Speaker 1: Leonard George Sifleet in 1943. And machine-gunning 21 Australian nurses
- 12:44Speaker 1: on Banker Island. So are we really just fighting for
- 12:49Speaker 1: a side and not for principles, for our values? And
- 12:52Speaker 1: then there's the legal argument. One of the oldest of
- 12:55Speaker 1: international rules of war is that you don't murder prisoners.
- 12:59Speaker 1: That's the most fundamental rule of the Geneva Conventions, first
- 13:02Speaker 1: passed in 1864, now signed by 194 countries, including us.
- 13:08Speaker 1: These are rules that we hope protect our own soldiers
- 13:11Speaker 1: too if they are captured. And what's more, if we
- 13:14Speaker 1: don't investigate credible claims of war crimes by our own,
- 13:17Speaker 1: then the International Criminal Court is licensed to do that
- 13:21Speaker 1: for us. Now, if Australia gets a name for allowing
- 13:25Speaker 1: its soldiers to allegedly act like Nazis, we are going
- 13:28Speaker 1: to horrify our allies and excite our enemies and inspire them.
- 13:34Speaker 1: I know, I will have angered enough of you already,
- 13:36Speaker 1: so I'll finish with a consolation to anyone who doesn't
- 13:39Speaker 1: care about the morality, doesn't care about the law, doesn't
- 13:42Speaker 1: care about the truth, who does say Ben Robert Smith
- 13:44Speaker 1: is an Australian hero, full stop, and believes what he says,
- 13:48Speaker 1: which you're entitled to do. Don't worry. The very clever
- 13:53Speaker 1: campaign you are now seeing will work, in my opinion.
- 13:57Speaker 1: It will help to make a fair trial impossible, whether
- 14:00Speaker 1: or not that was the intention. And my fear too
- 14:03Speaker 1: is that witnesses might even be scared off giving evidence
- 14:06Speaker 1: when they see how Andrew Hastie is being treated, even
- 14:09Speaker 1: if that too isn't the attention of the people vilifying him.
- 14:14Speaker 1: And if the trial does still go ahead, here is
- 14:17Speaker 1: my tip. Robert Smith will be found innocent. The trial
- 14:21Speaker 1: must be before a jury of 12 and Robert Smith
- 14:23Speaker 1: goes free if just one of them says not guilty. So,
- 14:28Speaker 1: a very clever campaign. Let me move to politics of
- 14:40Speaker 1: today before I come back to this briefly. The Prime
- 14:43Speaker 1: Minister had another shocker today. And I just wonder, why
- 14:48Speaker 1: can't this man just say sorry? Why the lying again?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Anthony Albanese has been telling us to be more civil
- 14:56Speaker 1: and to cool the temperature after the horrendous attack on
- 14:59Speaker 1: Monday on independent MP Helen Haynes, who's now lost both
- 15:03Speaker 1: her legs. But this is the same man, as I
- 15:07Speaker 1: told you on Monday, whose own office, before the accident,
- 15:11Speaker 1: sent journalists a dirt file on Helen Haynes after she
- 15:14Speaker 1: dared to criticise Albanese's dodgy $ 6 million grant to the
- 15:19Speaker 1: Marrickville Golf Club near his home, falsely claiming he had
- 15:22Speaker 1: no role in giving the grant and falsely claiming he
- 15:24Speaker 1: wasn't a member of the club and hadn't set foot
- 15:26Speaker 1: in it.
- 15:27Speaker 4: Sports rots was pork barrelling by deception. This is pork
- 15:32Speaker 4: barrelling by design.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Now, the Prime Minister is coming under a lot of
- 15:38Speaker 1: fire now for that dirt file, and today declared, no,
- 15:44Speaker 1: it wasn't a dirt file, and he pretended it was
- 15:48Speaker 1: actually a document praising Helen Haynes.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Let's be very clear, because apparently it's been published somewhere...
- 15:59Speaker 5: It's a list of funding us from Helen Haynes just
- 16:06Speaker 5: showing that people of integrity stand up for their electorate.
- 16:11Speaker 5: No personal criticism of Helen.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Pants on fire. I have seen the document. It sure
- 16:21Speaker 1: is a smear sheet. Let me read some of it
- 16:23Speaker 1: out to you so you can see for yourself how
- 16:25Speaker 1: the Prime Minister just lied about It says in the
- 16:28Speaker 1: lead-up to the election, the member for Indo, which is
- 16:30Speaker 1: Helen Haynes, wrote to Treasurer Jim Chalmers requesting more than
- 16:35Speaker 1: $ 845 million of Commonwealth funding for local projects. And it
- 16:38Speaker 1: goes on to imply Haynes is something to hide, might
- 16:41Speaker 1: even be wink-wink corrupt. It says it is unclear what
- 16:44Speaker 1: interest the member has. in businesses, community groups, sporting organisations
- 16:48Speaker 1: or clubs that would benefit from these wide-ranging and expensive
- 16:52Speaker 1: projects that she has flagged as worthy of funding. And
- 16:55Speaker 1: just in case journalists didn't get the message, it went on, adding,
- 17:00Speaker 1: for instance, of one of the projects, given she has
- 17:03Speaker 1: pushed for funding for this project, has the member for
- 17:06Speaker 1: Hindai ever visited, received, undeclared gifts, including wine maybe or
- 17:12Speaker 1: food or, Has she held business interests with or received
- 17:16Speaker 1: political donations from or had professional personal associations with any
- 17:20Speaker 1: local companies or organisations on Prosecco Road, this project? This
- 17:26Speaker 1: clearly was not, as Albanese claims, a list showing Haynes
- 17:30Speaker 1: was a person of integrity, but a dirt file inviting
- 17:34Speaker 1: people to think that she might not be a woman
- 17:38Speaker 1: of integrity at all and without giving any proof of that.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Joining me is my Thursday regular commentator, One Nation MP
- 17:45Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby. Why can't
- 17:49Speaker 1: the Prime Minister just confess and apologise instead of telling
- 17:52Speaker 1: these outrageous lies? It's pathology.
- 17:56Speaker 6: And not only is the fact that he's lying again,
- 18:00Speaker 6: lying again... But obviously their office is dumb as a
- 18:03Speaker 6: bag of hammers. I mean, they sent through a Word document.
- 18:06Speaker 6: And a Word document, you just jam it back through AI,
- 18:09Speaker 6: get all the metadata out. We can tell you whose
- 18:11Speaker 6: office it came from, Anthony Albanese's. We can tell you
- 18:14Speaker 6: who wrote it in Anthony Albanese's office. We can tell
- 18:17Speaker 6: you what they changed. We can even tell you what
- 18:20Speaker 6: time they started on the document and what time they finished.
- 18:24Speaker 1: And this is just.
- 18:25Speaker 6: Why would someone sit.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Back there and write that?
- 18:27Speaker 6: It's instructed as if they all didn't know about it.
- 18:30Speaker 6: And we're all supposed to sit back and go, oh, no,
- 18:34Speaker 6: nothing to see here. No, we believe you, Albo. It's
- 18:37Speaker 6: just pathetic. This government's pathetic. It's coming asunder at the seams. And,
- 18:45Speaker 6: you know, God bless Helen Haynes. She called them out.
- 18:50Speaker 6: They got a massive chip on their shoulder and they're
- 18:53Speaker 6: all upset about it.
- 18:54Speaker 1: So they've gone and said, oh, we'll get her. We'll
- 18:57Speaker 1: get her. Watch this.
- 18:59Speaker 6: And, you know, and I do really mean God bless
- 19:01Speaker 6: Helen Haynes.
- 19:02Speaker 1: I hope she.
- 19:03Speaker 6: We don't want to grandstand on this complete tragedy, so
- 19:08Speaker 6: I'm just referring just to what Mr Albanese's office has done,
- 19:12Speaker 6: and I would say I can't prove it, but I
- 19:15Speaker 6: would say it's highly, highly unlikely that Mr Albanese didn't
- 19:19Speaker 6: know about it. And that interview with your stable, all
- 19:23Speaker 6: these weasel words where he said, oh, she's always fighting
- 19:26Speaker 6: for things for her electorate.
- 19:28Speaker 1: That wasn't the question that was asked.
- 19:29Speaker 6: You know the tenor of the question was, did you
- 19:32Speaker 6: put out a slime sheet on Helen Haynes? And, of course,
- 19:37Speaker 6: he didn't answer that because, and by not answering it,
- 19:39Speaker 6: you're lying because you're not being fulsome with the truth
- 19:44Speaker 6: and we all know what the truth is.
- 19:46Speaker 1: I should actually clarify, I don't think he should just
- 19:49Speaker 1: apologise to us for lying, lying to our face. He
- 19:52Speaker 1: should apologise to Helen Hughes for trying to imply she
- 19:55Speaker 1: was not the woman of integrity that he now... Helen Haynes, sorry,
- 19:59Speaker 1: Helen Haynes, that she was not the woman of integrity
- 20:02Speaker 1: that he now claims she is. Yeah, I know. It's
- 20:05Speaker 1: just so pathetic. How can you do that?
- 20:08Speaker 6: It's just, I don't know, Andrew, it's just so infuriatingly
- 20:12Speaker 6: ridiculous that you think we're all that stupid when the
- 20:15Speaker 6: only people who are as dumb as a bag of
- 20:17Speaker 6: hammers are residing in the Prime Minister of Australia's office. Because,
- 20:22Speaker 6: you know, it was a pathetic attempt to.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Demean and diminish......
- 20:29Speaker 6: A very decent lady, a very decent lady who's now
- 20:33Speaker 6: been seen by this tragic accident to be... See, at
- 20:37Speaker 6: first she's extolled to the Australian people, even though she's
- 20:39Speaker 6: really not on the same side of the political fence
- 20:41Speaker 6: as me, but I'm disgusted by a Prime Minister's office
- 20:44Speaker 6: that A, would do this, and B, would just front
- 20:47Speaker 6: up with the gall of just.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Just front......
- 20:50Speaker 6: Pathetic lies just in your face.
- 20:53Speaker 1: If he had apologised... If he had apologised... On day one, Monday,
- 20:59Speaker 1: this will not still be a story on Thursday and
- 21:02Speaker 1: it will be tomorrow again. I mean, this is the thing.
- 21:05Speaker 1: This is the thing. It's the attempted cover-up that gets
- 21:07Speaker 1: you every single time. Front up, say sorry. Barnaby, I
- 21:12Speaker 1: need to go back to the Ben Roberts-Smith publicity campaign.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Your reaction to it? Look, I'm going to leave it
- 21:19Speaker 1: to the court. Where I agree with you is this, Andrew...
- 21:25Speaker 1: As I think a Section 80 case in.
- 21:27Speaker 6: The Constitution, it's a Section 80 case because it's happened overseas,
- 21:31Speaker 6: it has to go before a jury. And finding a
- 21:33Speaker 6: jury to convict with it beyond a reasonable doubt in unison,
- 21:39Speaker 6: that means the whole lot of them, for an event
- 21:42Speaker 6: that happened 17 years ago is going to be extraordinarily
- 21:45Speaker 6: difficult no matter what the circumstances. And I'll let the
- 21:49Speaker 6: court deliberate over the circumstances.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Well, I'd wish that everyone would just do that, just
- 21:56Speaker 1: leave it to the court, let them decide. But I
- 21:59Speaker 1: just think... I just think this is trying to try it,
- 22:04Speaker 1: you know, mob rule. We saw that with George Pell,
- 22:06Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm not implying one way or
- 22:09Speaker 1: the other whether he's guilty or not. I do not know.
- 22:11Speaker 1: I do not know. I'm just saying I really believe
- 22:15Speaker 1: in leaving these things to the courts. Barnaby Joyce, thank
- 22:18Speaker 1: you so much for your time. After the break, a
- 22:22Speaker 1: desperate Labor government promises a Hindu temple half a million
- 22:26Speaker 1: dollars if this government is re-elected, showing that multiculturalism is,
- 22:31Speaker 1: as I've always said, politically corrupt. Victoria's going to the
- 22:41Speaker 1: election in a month, and the Labor government, the worst
- 22:44Speaker 1: in the country by a mile, now looks and sounds
- 22:47Speaker 1: and acts like it's already had the stuffing knocked out
- 22:50Speaker 1: of it. And no wonder, of course, it's racked up
- 22:52Speaker 1: the biggest state debt in the country. It's let $ 15
- 22:55Speaker 1: billion approximately of taxpayers' money get stolen by organised crime
- 22:59Speaker 1: and corrupt unions. The roads are a disgrace, a lethal disgrace.
- 23:04Speaker 1: It's record crime. And one measure of how desperate the
- 23:07Speaker 1: government is, yet how reckless it still is with cash.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Just look at what it's now doing. Last week, of course,
- 23:16Speaker 1: it even promised to pay people to.
- 23:19Speaker 1: They'll get paid even more to abort babies, can you
- 23:22Speaker 1: believe it, which is just sick. Now it's gone to
- 23:25Speaker 1: a Hindu temple in Craigieburn, where about 13% of voters
- 23:29Speaker 1: are Indian, and promised a great fat multicultural bribe.
- 23:35Speaker 7: Labor is the only government that has supported Temple, and
- 23:39Speaker 7: we will continue to do so.
- 23:41Speaker 4: To start with.
- 23:45Speaker 7: We will do that, a re-elected Labor government will do
- 23:49Speaker 7: that with $ 500, 000 for infrastructure upgrades.
- 23:59Speaker 1: The excuse of spending half a mil, well, the temple
- 24:02Speaker 1: needs better safety. Got to also make it easier for
- 24:05Speaker 1: worshippers to get to. But why? Your temple is your responsibility.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Your mosque is your responsibility. Why should we be paying
- 24:14Speaker 1: for a Hindu temple or a mosque or even a
- 24:16Speaker 1: church if we're not believers ourselves?
- 24:20Speaker 5: Why?
- 24:21Speaker 1: And this half a million dollars from a broke government
- 24:23Speaker 1: to this temple comes on top of another $ 80, 000 it
- 24:27Speaker 1: gave the same temple earlier this year for supposed security upgrades.
- 24:32Speaker 1: And this is multiculturalism at its most politically corrupt and divisive.
- 24:37Speaker 1: This government is handing out millions and millions to at
- 24:40Speaker 1: least 24 ethnic communities, 14 religions... which it says, you know,
- 24:46Speaker 1: all this is for ensuring all Victorians have safe, accessible
- 24:49Speaker 1: and culturally appropriate spaces to gather and celebrate their heritage.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Why is it the role of government to fund any
- 24:56Speaker 1: heritage except a heritage that unites us all, like an
- 25:00Speaker 1: Australian one? Why is it the role of government to
- 25:04Speaker 1: fund 14 religions or more Like I say, your religion,
- 25:09Speaker 1: your business. It's a rort and it really shows that
- 25:12Speaker 1: multiculturalism is just an excuse and a machinery and a
- 25:16Speaker 1: bureaucracy for politicians to bribe immigrant communities for votes. And
- 25:22Speaker 1: bribe them, in this case, with money we can no
- 25:24Speaker 1: longer afford. I was joined a short while ago by
- 25:27Speaker 1: James Campbell, National Weekend political editor for Weekend News Corp
- 25:31Speaker 1: papers around the country. James Campbell, thank you so much
- 25:34Speaker 1: for your time. You would never guess from that grant
- 25:38Speaker 1: and all the others that they're, you know, throwing out
- 25:41Speaker 1: as they stroll from temple to mosque to goodness knows what,
- 25:45Speaker 1: you would never guess that Victoria was actually broke. Well, no,
- 25:51Speaker 1: they're not.
- 25:51Speaker 8: So Labor is now, I think, in two modes in
- 25:55Speaker 8: this election. One is saving the furniture where they can
- 25:59Speaker 8: save the furniture and So they're throwing money at people
- 26:02Speaker 8: where they think it'll make a difference, such as the
- 26:07Speaker 8: Islamic Council got some, I think. There was that grant
- 26:09Speaker 8: you had there. They're throwing money at various ethnic and
- 26:13Speaker 8: religious groups. But they're also now moved... The real sign
- 26:17Speaker 8: that they're in trouble is they've moved into salting-the-earth mode.
- 26:21Speaker 8: If you have a look at the changes that they're
- 26:23Speaker 8: bringing in to the broad-based anti-corruption... organisation down here they're
- 26:29Speaker 8: broadening the definition of things that it can look at
- 26:32Speaker 8: into thing anything that would constitute a sackable offence so
- 26:36Speaker 8: let's say you got sacked for shouting at somebody that
- 26:40Speaker 8: would be now something going forward that the that IBAC
- 26:44Speaker 8: down here could look at now clearly that's designed to
- 26:47Speaker 8: create trouble for the next government and in the same
- 26:50Speaker 8: mode today the uh Fairfax media reported excitedly that the
- 26:56Speaker 8: government has signed, agreed to so-called full funding of the
- 27:02Speaker 8: Gonski agreement. Now, this is something that Victoria had not
- 27:06Speaker 8: signed up to because it simply can't afford it. But
- 27:10Speaker 8: they've now, at the death knock of this parliament, agreed
- 27:13Speaker 8: going forward to add billions of dollars to the government
- 27:17Speaker 8: spending to basically, I think in a little bit of
- 27:21Speaker 8: an attempt to curry some favour with the teachers, which
- 27:23Speaker 8: they're not going to get, but more reasonably, I think,
- 27:27Speaker 8: to really make trouble for the next government because it's
- 27:30Speaker 8: going to punch a giant hole in the budget as
- 27:33Speaker 8: if we needed that down here.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Look, honestly, this is the most despicable government, state government
- 27:40Speaker 1: I can recall in Victoria at least and probably beyond that.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Who knows? And look, it really looks to me like
- 27:49Speaker 1: this is a government that's just about given up all hope.
- 27:52Speaker 1: You know, you've got staffers that are here already looking
- 27:56Speaker 1: for jobs elsewhere. And this is more than a month ago.
- 28:00Speaker 1: What other signs of distress are you seeing?
- 28:05Speaker 8: It's been a long time since I spoke to anyone
- 28:07Speaker 8: in the ALP who thinks they can win. And Every
- 28:12Speaker 8: time you talk to them, the areas where they acknowledge
- 28:15Speaker 8: they're in trouble get bigger and bigger. Most of their
- 28:19Speaker 8: seats in the eastern suburbs are cooked. They're in trouble
- 28:22Speaker 8: in the outer north. They're in trouble in the outer west. Everywhere,
- 28:27Speaker 8: the regional seats are in dire straits. There's trouble all over.
- 28:32Speaker 8: And the published polling shows this. Low to mid-20s, there's
- 28:37Speaker 8: simply no way Labor can win. It's become a pile-on.
- 28:42Speaker 8: I mean, you live here, you walk around, people... The
- 28:45Speaker 8: metaphorical baseball bats are out and some. It's more like
- 28:49Speaker 8: the assault rifles are out for them. People just want
- 28:52Speaker 8: them gone.
- 28:53Speaker 1: It's now... Look, One Nation looked like, you know, being
- 28:55Speaker 1: the upcoming threat, et cetera, et cetera, in Victoria as well,
- 28:59Speaker 1: even though Victoria is probably the reddest state in the country.
- 29:03Speaker 1: There's now a hot chance that the Liberals could rule.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Without needing One Nation support. We'll see how that pans out.
- 29:13Speaker 1: I notice that this is a very, very important win
- 29:16Speaker 1: for the Liberals. You had Angus Taylor, who, now that
- 29:20Speaker 1: he's a bit more popular in the polls, he was
- 29:22Speaker 1: out campaigning again this week in Victoria. He's loaned at
- 29:27Speaker 1: least one senior official to help the Liberals here out.
- 29:30Speaker 1: How important is a Liberal win in Victoria, not just
- 29:34Speaker 1: for Victoria, but for the federal Liberals? Angus Taylor... Oh,
- 29:40Speaker 1: it's absolutely vital.
- 29:41Speaker 8: Obviously, they need to be able to show that they're
- 29:44Speaker 8: a viable concern somewhere. They can govern in their own
- 29:46Speaker 8: right and that they're not just losing ground to the right,
- 29:52Speaker 8: to Hanson. I actually, I'll put a kind of controversial thought.
- 29:57Speaker 8: I don't think I think that Pauline Hanson and James Ashby,
- 30:01Speaker 8: the Brains Trust, actually want the Liberals to win in
- 30:05Speaker 8: a majority here.
- 30:06Speaker 1: And I'll walk you through it.
- 30:08Speaker 6: Why?
- 30:08Speaker 8: I think they want to because, first of all, because
- 30:12Speaker 8: the main game for One Nation is first the New
- 30:14Speaker 8: South Wales election, then the federal election. They know this
- 30:17Speaker 8: is kind of an away game down here that they've
- 30:20Speaker 8: got to get through. They know that the worst thing
- 30:24Speaker 8: that could happen to One Nation is that if they
- 30:26Speaker 8: do well enough down here, but through preference leakage, somehow
- 30:29Speaker 8: Labor gets back in. That is a terrible message that
- 30:34Speaker 8: would come out of this election if it were to happen.
- 30:37Speaker 8: They also don't want, I think, any situation in which
- 30:42Speaker 8: One Nation ended up in a coalition or a minority
- 30:44Speaker 8: government situation with the Liberal Party would be unstable. It
- 30:47Speaker 8: was really a potential mess. There'll be a lot of
- 30:51Speaker 8: focus on it. Every shortcoming of every One Nation candidate
- 30:54Speaker 8: or MP by then would be... There'd be enormous focus
- 30:58Speaker 8: on them. And it would really muddy the water for
- 31:01Speaker 8: One Nation in the lead-up to the New South Wales election,
- 31:04Speaker 8: where they are travelling really well, and the federal election,
- 31:07Speaker 8: which is the main game for them. So I think
- 31:09Speaker 8: they want to do better than they did at the
- 31:11Speaker 8: last election, but they want the Liberals to win in
- 31:14Speaker 8: a majority so that they don't have to have the
- 31:17Speaker 8: burden of either governing or supporting.
- 31:21Speaker 8: A state government with people who they don't themselves, I suspect,
- 31:25Speaker 8: have that much faith in.
- 31:27Speaker 1: James Campbell, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Andrew.
- 31:31Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. After the break, politicians are demanding a
- 31:36Speaker 1: kinder culture now that one of their own has been
- 31:39Speaker 1: so cruelly attacked. But why wasn't this an issue when
- 31:43Speaker 1: checkout people and homeowners and people like that were being assaulted? Now,
- 31:53Speaker 1: after this ghastly attack on MP Helen Haynes, every Canberra
- 31:58Speaker 1: politician is now talking about this new culture of nastiness.
- 32:02Speaker 1: But most Australians get reminded of this nastiness every time
- 32:06Speaker 1: they go to the shops. I mean, why do you
- 32:08Speaker 1: think they have signs like this one at Woolies? Aggressive
- 32:12Speaker 1: and abusive behaviour will not be tolerated. We never needed
- 32:15Speaker 1: these signs or saw them. Even 10 or 20 years ago,
- 32:20Speaker 1: we never needed to be told not to attack the
- 32:22Speaker 1: checkout staff at Bunnings or Woolies or Coles or IGA
- 32:27Speaker 1: or whatever. Joining me are News 24 host James McPherson
- 32:31Speaker 1: and communications consultant Christy McSweeney, who's worked for Coalition Prime
- 32:35Speaker 1: Ministers and Premiers. James, public manners is a huge issue
- 32:39Speaker 1: now for politicians after an attack of on one of
- 32:42Speaker 1: their own. Why wasn't it such a big issue before?
- 32:46Speaker 9: It's a really great question. It does seem a little
- 32:49Speaker 9: bit self-serving on behalf of our politicians.
- 32:51Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not. But you're quite right.
- 32:53Speaker 9: When I grew up, when you grew up, I mean,
- 32:55Speaker 9: we would have thought it ludicrous that there had to
- 32:57Speaker 9: be signs to remind us not to be rude or
- 33:00Speaker 9: not to be violent towards the checkout chick or the
- 33:04Speaker 9: nurse who was manning the emergency department. But now these
- 33:07Speaker 9: things are par for the course.
- 33:08Speaker 1: They're everywhere. And it demonstrates.
- 33:11Speaker 9: Was it the Yeats poem that talks about the centre
- 33:14Speaker 9: not holding and everything just falls apart?
- 33:16Speaker 10: Yes.
- 33:16Speaker 9: And I think we're seeing that right through society. The
- 33:19Speaker 9: centre will not hold.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:22Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about why that. Well, I
- 33:23Speaker 1: don't know. I reckon, James, this will be... This will be...
- 33:26Speaker 1: This will speak to your heart, but I think... One
- 33:29Speaker 1: thing Christianity did was drag a lot of kids and
- 33:32Speaker 1: youths and adults into a church once a week to
- 33:35Speaker 1: be told, do better, rise to these standards. Now, what
- 33:39Speaker 1: have they got? Christy, what do you make of this?
- 33:42Speaker 1: I mean, just about every shop you go to says,
- 33:45Speaker 1: you know, don't yell at people, don't be abusive to
- 33:48Speaker 1: our staff, we will not tolerate. That should have been
- 33:51Speaker 1: warning enough that something really has gone wrong.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Mm.
- 33:56Speaker 4: And you're right, and that's gone on for so many
- 33:58Speaker 4: years now. It's not a recent.
- 34:00Speaker 3: It's recent enough that we're remarking on how we never
- 34:04Speaker 3: used to see it when, you know, we were growing
- 34:07Speaker 3: up or, you know, when I was in high school.
- 34:09Speaker 3: But it's recent enough that we are now all desensitised
- 34:12Speaker 3: to the fact that Coles and Woolworths are putting signs
- 34:16Speaker 3: up saying, please, you know, be mindful and polite to
- 34:19Speaker 3: our staff. Coles in Elizabeth Street in Melbourne has said...
- 34:24Speaker 3: Retail crime, the violence and the abuse of our staff
- 34:28Speaker 3: is too much in that pocket for other viewers from
- 34:31Speaker 3: other states, not from Melbourne. It sits right in front
- 34:34Speaker 3: of Flinders Street Station in the main thoroughfare on Elizabeth Street.
- 34:39Speaker 3: It is a pit of crime and homelessness and antisocial
- 34:43Speaker 3: activity at night time. Coles will not renew their lease
- 34:46Speaker 3: because of the crime and the difficulties it causes their
- 34:50Speaker 3: staff and customers and the behaviours in their store.
- 34:54Speaker 4: And this is amplified all over Australia.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Teachers, particularly female teachers, are facing violence and abuse in
- 35:03Speaker 3: their own workplace. And as you already said, nurses and
- 35:06Speaker 3: other healthcare workers and first responders, it becomes a really
- 35:10Speaker 3: difficult problem of retention in a lot of these key
- 35:14Speaker 3: service professions, this kind of abuse of behaviour and violence
- 35:18Speaker 3: that they're forced to endure.
- 35:21Speaker 1: It is really quite extraordinary when you think about it.
- 35:24Speaker 1: We've been frogs in boiling water, I guess, or at
- 35:26Speaker 1: least people in Canberra seem to have been. James, here's
- 35:30Speaker 1: an example of the anti-capitalist, anti-Western far-left using or abusing
- 35:35Speaker 1: Aboriginal culture, which you're seeing quite often now, in its
- 35:39Speaker 1: war on Australia. You see pro-Palestine groups also using the
- 35:43Speaker 1: Aboriginal flag, etc., One of those far-left groups released this
- 35:47Speaker 1: video this week of what they called a sacred Aboriginal
- 35:51Speaker 1: birthing tree in Victoria being cut down.
- 35:54Speaker 5: No!
- 35:55Speaker 11: They're dowsing the sacred fire. They're extinguishing the sacred fire.
- 36:11Speaker 11: This is genocide. This is genocide.
- 36:17Speaker 1: As far as I can tell, the main spokespeople for
- 36:19Speaker 1: that group are not Aboriginal themselves. In fact, local traditional
- 36:22Speaker 1: owners approve these plans to straighten the road, and the
- 36:25Speaker 1: group wailing about sacred trees and sacred fires is the
- 36:29Speaker 1: Anti-Militarism Action Network, or AMAN, which it says is an
- 36:33Speaker 1: Arabic word meaning safety, and it calls itself a decolonial,
- 36:37Speaker 1: decentralised and anti-capitalist grassroots collective that's against Israel as well.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Of course, honestly... James, the hard left has become beyond parody.
- 36:49Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to stay with religion for a moment, Andrew,
- 36:52Speaker 9: because GK Chesterton said when people stop believing in God,
- 36:55Speaker 9: it's not that they believe in nothing, it's that they'll
- 36:57Speaker 9: believe in anything. And once you remove objective truth, you
- 37:02Speaker 9: lose all objectivity. And that's the culture in which we live.
- 37:05Speaker 9: There's no objectivity. Anything goes. No one can criticise anybody
- 37:09Speaker 9: because if you criticise me and say that's wrong, I'll
- 37:12Speaker 9: reply to you, says who? And we've removed any higher
- 37:15Speaker 9: authority to appeal to. So it's a free for all
- 37:18Speaker 9: and we see it everywhere. It's interesting as well that spirituality,
- 37:23Speaker 9: having rejected pretty much Christianity, we still have a hunger
- 37:26Speaker 9: for meaning and for purpose. And so if we won't
- 37:30Speaker 9: worship God in the heavens, we'll worship a tree. It's ludicrous,
- 37:34Speaker 9: but it's not that surprising to me.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Chrissie, it is interesting, isn't it, that the hard left
- 37:41Speaker 1: has become a collective of causes, all of them aimed
- 37:44Speaker 1: at destroying Western capitalist societies. You see it in France.
- 37:49Speaker 6: I think.
- 37:52Speaker 4: I think, Andrew, that is their own motivation.
- 37:55Speaker 3: And they're masquerading as being deeply offended and deeply passionate
- 38:00Speaker 3: about various causes, whether it is chanting from the river
- 38:05Speaker 3: to the sea and wearing a kefir for a country
- 38:08Speaker 3: and a religion and a history that they have no
- 38:11Speaker 3: understanding of and no understanding of the phraseology of which
- 38:15Speaker 3: they're chanting for, to, you know, remarking that cutting down
- 38:18Speaker 3: a tree is a genocide. Again, very ignorant use of
- 38:23Speaker 3: language and terminology. Both of those examples. I am not
- 38:30Speaker 3: surprised that I have just seen that clip on screen.
- 38:33Speaker 3: But and neither am I surprised that that normal people
- 38:37Speaker 3: feel that they're not allowed to criticise that.
- 38:40Speaker 4: But, you know, I wish it wasn't so.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Chrissie, let me just stick with you because there's been
- 38:48Speaker 1: a small win in this battle today. In New South Wales,
- 38:51Speaker 1: the Liberals attacked the release last week of a new
- 38:55Speaker 1: government policy on breastfeeding that removed the words mother and female,
- 39:00Speaker 1: replacing them with gender-neutral terms like parent, carer and lactating parent,
- 39:05Speaker 1: because you don't know, it could be the dad. And
- 39:09Speaker 1: there's today now a backdown. Have a look.
- 39:13Speaker 12: Yesterday, the Parliament updated its breastfeeding policy to remove all
- 39:16Speaker 12: reference to the word mother. The Premier's Department Lactation and
- 39:20Speaker 12: Work Policy Circular was also updated in January this year
- 39:23Speaker 12: to remove all references to the word mother and women.
- 39:26Speaker 12: Do you support this change and if not, what's action
- 39:30Speaker 12: will you take in response?
- 39:32Speaker 10: The truth of the matter is the terminology used in
- 39:35Speaker 10: it is... And I don't think that we need to
- 39:39Speaker 10: be in a situation where these documents should have anything
- 39:42Speaker 10: other than common sense language like mother and breastfeeding. And
- 39:47Speaker 10: that's what the public expects and that's what I expect.
- 39:50Speaker 10: And I understand that state government guidelines of a similar
- 39:53Speaker 10: nature will from now on reflect that terminology.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Christy, should we applaud Chris Minns for showing rare good
- 40:03Speaker 1: sense these days, or should we wonder why it was
- 40:07Speaker 1: allowed to get that far?
- 40:10Speaker 3: First thing I'll say is, look, some of those people
- 40:12Speaker 3: in the right, hard right faction of Labor aren't too bad.
- 40:15Speaker 4: It's a shame they're not running our country.
- 40:18Speaker 3: It is dominated by the left faction in Canberra, led
- 40:21Speaker 3: by Anthony Albanese.
- 40:23Speaker 4: We know that. Look at the difference there.
- 40:25Speaker 3: So I will commend Chris Minns for having the common
- 40:30Speaker 3: sense But why does a Premier have to take this on?
- 40:35Speaker 4: This is stupid.
- 40:37Speaker 3: It should never be allowed to be written into bureaucracy.
- 40:42Speaker 3: This phraseology has seeped in and seeped in and seeped
- 40:46Speaker 3: in to so many parts of health and education policy.
- 40:50Speaker 3: It is ridiculous that a Premier has to stand up
- 40:54Speaker 3: there and stop this bureaucracy in its tracks.
- 40:58Speaker 4: May they all do it across all states.
- 41:02Speaker 1: James, first, I'm actually out of time, but I've got
- 41:04Speaker 1: to have a quick comment from you on this.
- 41:06Speaker 9: Let's not give Chris Minns too much praise. In the
- 41:09Speaker 9: state of New South Wales, you can change your name
- 41:11Speaker 9: on your birth certificate three times. You can change your
- 41:14Speaker 9: gender every single year as many times as you want.
- 41:20Speaker 9: He shouldn't be praised too much for this small bit
- 41:23Speaker 9: of common sense.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Thank you for that little reality check. Good on you. Yeah, absolutely.
- 41:31Speaker 1: James McPherson, Christy McSweeney, thank you to you both. After
- 41:35Speaker 1: the break, the strange face of the French riots and
- 41:39Speaker 1: why this makes them even worse. I did say these
- 41:47Speaker 1: protests in France were actually a civil war and there
- 41:49Speaker 1: are more signs now of that. The French government will
- 41:52Speaker 1: now send in the army to help police on Saturday...
- 41:56Speaker 1: to deal with the latest wave of protests that are
- 41:58Speaker 1: being organised, despite the chaos last week, still being organised
- 42:03Speaker 1: by hard-left groups. Now, President Emmanuel Macron today, or overnight,
- 42:09Speaker 1: blasted Donald Trump as stupid for saying that immigrants were
- 42:13Speaker 1: behind the riots. And he does have a little point,
- 42:17Speaker 1: because there were indeed a lot of riots, in fact,
- 42:21Speaker 1: rioters from clearly Middle Eastern and North African background. But
- 42:26Speaker 1: the man now arrested for burning down the historic Limoges
- 42:29Speaker 1: Town Hall, actually filmed setting a light to it, is
- 42:33Speaker 1: a hard-left extremist with a long record of extremist causes,
- 42:37Speaker 1: albeit this guy does have Basque ancestry, so I don't
- 42:41Speaker 1: know whether the Spanish count as foreigners. But I've got
- 42:45Speaker 1: to show you something else. There was shocking looting during
- 42:50Speaker 1: the riots, as you know, but Check which protests that
- 42:53Speaker 1: went on French TV to say that she was a
- 42:55Speaker 1: daughter of a poor mother, there was hunger, the looting
- 43:00Speaker 1: was justified, and the shopkeepers who were next to her
- 43:03Speaker 1: in the studio complaining they'd been looted should just suck
- 43:06Speaker 1: it up.
- 43:08Speaker 13: In fact, your shops, it's cute, great, OK, the footlockers
- 43:11Speaker 13: who were robbed, but in fact, there's a reality, a
- 43:13Speaker 13: real suffering of the French. And I'd like to talk
- 43:16Speaker 13: about this suffering tonight.
- 43:17Speaker 1: You did it, I gave you my answer.
- 43:18Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm the only one who did it.
- 43:23Speaker 1: One of those shopkeepers born in the Congo let her
- 43:26Speaker 1: have it.
- 43:27Speaker 13: You're telling me I'm crying because my window is broken. Lola,
- 43:31Speaker 13: I arrived in France when I was 9 years old.
- 43:34Speaker 13: I left the Democratic Republic of Congo. I had to adapt.
- 43:38Speaker 13: When I arrived here, I had the choice to go
- 43:42Speaker 13: through a situation or to recover. Today, as a business manager,
- 43:47Speaker 13: I regularly employ 130 people. You're telling me about misery.
- 43:51Speaker 13: You're telling me I'm crying because my window is broken.
- 43:54Speaker 1: But it's my life, Lola.
- 43:55Speaker 13: C'est ma vie, j'ai des enfants... Non mais quelle chance.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Non mais quelle.
- 44:01Speaker 13: Chance j'ai, quelle chance on a d'avoir eu nos entreprises cassées,
- 44:08Speaker 13: de devoir ramasser nos salariés.
- 44:10Speaker 1: Attendez, laissez-la parler, laissez-la parler. Laissez-la parler, laissez-la parler.
- 44:14Speaker 13: Non mais on doit aujourd'hui récupérer nos salariés. Moi j'ai
- 44:17Speaker 13: des salariés qui sont terrorisés. Quelle réponse vous leur apportez?
- 44:23Speaker 4: On leur dit quoi?
- 44:26Speaker 1: Well, she went on and on. It was great stuff.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Joining me from London, as he does each week, is
- 44:31Speaker 1: GB News star presenter Patrick Christies. Patrick, what do you
- 44:35Speaker 1: make of that story? Particularly when what is so symbolic,
- 44:39Speaker 1: at least for me, is that that protest that was
- 44:44Speaker 1: defending looting turned out to be Lola Fleur Whittaker, who
- 44:47Speaker 1: is not poor. She's the daughter of an oil executive
- 44:50Speaker 1: and a teacher. She graduated from the University of Manchester
- 44:52Speaker 1: and the Paris Institute of Political Studies. She has filmed
- 44:55Speaker 1: herself in lovely places, on ships, in Croatia, in Oman
- 44:59Speaker 1: and wherever, and she stood for election for the hard-left
- 45:02Speaker 1: party La France Insoumise. What does this tell you?
- 45:06Speaker 14: Yeah, it reminds me back in 2010, we had student
- 45:09Speaker 14: protests here in Britain and it turned out that the
- 45:11Speaker 14: son of a Pink Floyd guitarist, David Gilmour, was arrested
- 45:15Speaker 14: and imprisoned for climbing on the cenotaph. We've had actress
- 45:18Speaker 14: Emma Thompson flew first class over from America to London.
- 45:21Speaker 14: to take part in climate protests, and were then pictured
- 45:24Speaker 14: holidaying on a super yacht in the Mediterranean. When you
- 45:27Speaker 14: see climate activists or hard-left activists, they usually have a
- 45:30Speaker 14: triple-barreled surname, and it turns out they went to a
- 45:33Speaker 14: £ 60, 000- a- year private school. But it's easy to be far left
- 45:36Speaker 14: when your daddy owns a yacht, you can take private
- 45:39Speaker 14: jets everywhere, and you've got a gold-plated trust fund to
- 45:42Speaker 14: fall back on. But it's a story as old as
- 45:44Speaker 14: time itself, this. The wealthy far left essentially need the
- 45:48Speaker 14: mob to seize power. And we're dealing here, I think,
- 45:51Speaker 14: with people who are, A, dealing maybe with generational guilt, B,
- 45:56Speaker 14: so thick they never thought their own hypocrisy would be
- 45:59Speaker 14: pointed out, and C, have never actually worked a proper
- 46:02Speaker 14: day in their lives, which is why they have no
- 46:04Speaker 14: sympathy for the working man and woman who are having
- 46:06Speaker 14: their lives ruined by this violence, looting and lawlessness. But
- 46:09Speaker 14: what they don't realise is that the real hard left,
- 46:13Speaker 14: the real people who are your kind of typical.
- 46:16Speaker 8: you.
- 46:16Speaker 14: Know, kind of like, you know, actual working class that
- 46:19Speaker 14: are kind of violent in this sense, will actually come
- 46:22Speaker 14: for them too, no matter whether or not they like
- 46:26Speaker 14: to say that they're an ally. And we do have
- 46:28Speaker 14: a real problem here, I think, across the West with
- 46:31Speaker 14: a lot of these kind of deranged, radical, well-to-do lefties
- 46:35Speaker 14: who are useful idiots for a much bigger problem.
- 46:41Speaker 1: I think it's a marvel to see a beautiful, privileged,
- 46:45Speaker 1: white French socialist girl lecture a shopkeeper born in the
- 46:51Speaker 1: Congo who came from nothing to suck up having a
- 46:54Speaker 1: store ransacked. Tremendous story from Britain, though. The lovely Kelvin
- 47:00Speaker 1: Grove Art Gallery Museum in Glasgow. Wonderful place. It has
- 47:04Speaker 1: removed its Egyptian mummies from display, Patrick, for reasons I
- 47:10Speaker 1: struggle to believe. Tell us about it. Tell us if
- 47:12Speaker 1: this story is true.
- 47:14Speaker 5: Brilliant.
- 47:15Speaker 14: So the items removed from this museum include a painted
- 47:18Speaker 14: coffin containing the remains of the high priest Necht, a
- 47:21Speaker 14: mummified male head, various different other mummified remains. What they've
- 47:25Speaker 14: said is they couldn't get informed consent from these deceased mummies.
- 47:31Speaker 1: They've removed them.
- 47:32Speaker 14: There's so many jokes here, right? Forget walk like an Egyptian.
- 47:35Speaker 14: This is woke like an Egyptian. They couldn't get consent
- 47:38Speaker 14: from the high priest Necht, maybe? Maybe they should have
- 47:41Speaker 14: asked for his neck of kin. You know, the museum
- 47:44Speaker 14: clearly has mummy issues, doesn't it? The high priest is
- 47:49Speaker 14: 4,000 years old, so struggle getting him to sign a
- 47:51Speaker 14: consent form, I think. But, look, this is the first
- 47:53Speaker 14: step towards either returning these artefacts to Egypt or paying
- 47:57Speaker 14: reparations or something like that, and it's a shame because
- 48:00Speaker 14: now nobody gets to see them. People can't be inspired
- 48:03Speaker 14: by it. It's like the animal rights activists. They'd rather
- 48:06Speaker 14: that some animals were never even born, as long as
- 48:08Speaker 14: it meant that they were never... in captivity. It is
- 48:11Speaker 14: a real shocker from the hyper-woke tip of the UK
- 48:15Speaker 14: here in Scotland.
- 48:16Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just wonder who it was that complained.
- 48:21Speaker 1: Which descendant today said, that's my... I don't know what
- 48:26Speaker 1: that would be. Great, great, great, great, great. Wait for
- 48:30Speaker 1: 10 minutes.
- 48:30Speaker 5: Great, great, great, great.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Grandfather. I mean, seriously, Patrick. Oh, my goodness. Thank you
- 48:35Speaker 1: so much for your time, mate. Really appreciate it. Honestly,
- 48:41Speaker 1: you either... Times are so crazy, you either feel the
- 48:45Speaker 1: chills or you start laughing, and not really that happily either.
- 48:51Speaker 1: Mad times. Well, that's it from me. Coming up next
- 48:54Speaker 1: is Shari Markson. Goodnight.