Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Hit It and Quit It with Karla Trotman and Sandra James
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- 0:00Three, two, one, zero, ignition, lift off.
- 0:09Ending small business failure.
- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
- 0:17Emerson.
- 0:18Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:23you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:26Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
- 0:34Have you subscribed to the Small Biz Chat podcast?
- 0:37Well, it's time.
- 0:38Every Wednesday, we offer listeners bite sized actionable tips to start and grow a successful
- 0:45small business.
- 0:45In just twenty minutes or so a week, you can get a ton of insight and resources to propel
- 0:51your business forward.
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- 0:59Hi, everybody.
- 1:00Welcome back to the Small Biz Chef podcast.
- 1:02I'm Melinda Emerson, your host, and I'm so excited to welcome back to the stage both of my
- 1:07guests.
- 1:08I'm going to bring Sandra James and Carla Chapman back to the stage, and we're gonna have
- 1:14what we like to call our hit it and quit it panel.
- 1:18Alright.
- 1:18This is how it works.
- 1:19I'm gonna ask both of you the exact same question.
- 1:22You can only talk for thirty seconds and give us your answer, and you cannot, I repeat, you
- 1:28cannot take each other's answers.
- 1:31So if somebody swiped your answer, you gotta come up with another answer.
- 1:35You guys got it?
- 1:37Got it.
- 1:37Alright.
- 1:38Alright.
- 1:38So the first question Carla, I'm gonna come to you first.
- 1:42The first question is, what is your favorite podcast?
- 1:46What is your favorite podcast?
- 1:48Did you like those?
- 1:49Oh, gosh.
- 1:49People are gonna judge me.
- 1:52It's a podcast called Ratchet and Respectable with Demetria l Lucas.
- 1:57And I like it because she is like my sister in my head, from pop culture to serious current
- 2:06events to what's going on in the world.
- 2:09She's traveled the world.
- 2:10She's been, reporting in from different parts of Africa.
- 2:15She's gone on her own, just odysseys and personal discovery.
- 2:20And we're around the same age.
- 2:22And I just love it because it's like, we don't always have to be so buttoned up and together
- 2:26as business women, like we really do live life and right.
- 2:30And I love it.
- 2:31I really do.
- 2:32I find it refreshing as a, as a black woman.
- 2:34I love it.
- 2:35I love it.
- 2:36Sandra, what is your favorite podcast?
- 2:38Well, it's Melinda Emerson, small biz lady, because you have such interesting people on
- 2:43your podcast.
- 2:44That's true.
- 2:45You are so sweet.
- 2:46Thank you so much.
- 2:47You know, with a podcast that I have recently discovered that I love is this podcast called
- 2:53Membership Geeks.
- 2:54And it's these two guys out of London, and they are hysterical, but they keep it 100 for people
- 3:01that are building memberships.
- 3:02Like like, we have, we have Small Business Lady Academy.
- 3:05So I'm always trying to learn how to be better, and they are hilarious, and they keep it 100.
- 3:11I mean, it is two guys, and they're British, and they're just they're funny because they're
- 3:14British, some of the stuff they say.
- 3:16But I really enjoy them a lot.
- 3:18So alright.
- 3:20Second question second question.
- 3:23What is your favorite business app?
- 3:26Sandra, what is your favorite business app?
- 3:29The fave am I you know, it's so funny because I own a technology company, but I'm not that
- 3:34technical.
- 3:35So I'm trying to think of what the best app.
- 3:37I don't use a lot of apps.
- 3:38But which one should you use?
- 3:40I mean
- 3:40don't you know what I don't use a lot?
- 3:42Because I'm a private investigator, and I don't want anybody tracing my stuff.
- 3:47People can track you.
- 3:48Right?
- 3:49I don't track
- 3:50my stuff, so I don't use a lot
- 3:51of And
- 3:52so I'm like, I used to use all kinds of them.
- 3:55And then I was like, you know, maybe that's not a good idea.
- 3:57When I started doing when I got my PI license probably ten years ago, and I started
- 4:01investigating other people, I was like, maybe I won't use all that.
- 4:07Love that.
- 4:08But, you
- 4:08know, I do like LinkedIn.
- 4:09LinkedIn is you know, we connected through LinkedIn.
- 4:12Right?
- 4:12Yeah.
- 4:12That's how we met.
- 4:13That's how we met.
- 4:14So yeah.
- 4:15No.
- 4:15LinkedIn.
- 4:15You can claim LinkedIn.
- 4:16That's an app for sure.
- 4:19Carla, what is your favorite app?
- 4:22Actually, it's been lately ChatGPT.
- 4:25I've been using it not just for, you know, business reasons, but I was looking at taking a
- 4:31trip to Kenya with my friends.
- 4:34And I wanted a very specific type of trip for us, and I put in all the details, and it would
- 4:40have taken us forever to do the details.
- 4:43And it's changed the way that I now, think about vacation, the way that I think about,
- 4:51just con and concising large amounts of information to give me like, what is this
- 4:57overview?
- 4:58Like, here's 15 pages.
- 4:59What does
- 4:59it say?
- 5:01On the points.
- 5:02And it made me more efficient, not just at work, but in my personal life.
- 5:07Oh, yeah.
- 5:07Especially if you have the paid version.
- 5:09There's some just amazing stuff this thing can do.
- 5:11I'm I'm a big fan of, of that app as well.
- 5:15I'm also a big user of I love Audible.
- 5:19Like, Audible has become one of my new favorite apps.
- 5:22Like, I listen to everything through Audible.
- 5:24Even if I buy the book, I'll, like, listen to it through Audible too.
- 5:27So I'm like, I I still go buy the book.
- 5:29I don't cheat to people, but I I just like, if if I listen to it, I have to be able to write
- 5:34in the margins for myself.
- 5:35Yeah.
- 5:35Alright.
- 5:36Alright.
- 5:37Third question.
- 5:37Carla, I'm coming back to you first.
- 5:40What is your favorite old school marketing tip?
- 5:45Favorite old school marketing tip?
- 5:49Really, it's just about, the word-of-mouth marketing.
- 5:53I remember when I had my first business, my dad said people underestimate marketing.
- 5:57They said they think they'd be like, alright.
- 5:59I'm here.
- 6:00Open the door.
- 6:01We're open.
- 6:01Come on in.
- 6:04We underestimate the amount of marketing, but I find that there's more relationships.
- 6:09It's less transactional when it's word-of-mouth, and people give you they just
- 6:13had really good service, or they had they really enjoyed your product or really enjoyed
- 6:17doing business with you, and they are willing to spend their time and energy speaking about
- 6:23you.
- 6:24That it's been it's always like a tried and true.
- 6:26I don't think you'll ever, get rid of it because, I mean, we still use it for reviews.
- 6:32That's word-of-mouth.
- 6:33100%.
- 6:34One hundred %.
- 6:35Sandra, what about you?
- 6:36What is your favorite old school marketing tip?
- 6:40I think that it's still face to face, you know, for the the the best success that we have is
- 6:46is, like, meeting people and making friends.
- 6:49You know?
- 6:50It's relation it is relationship, which is similar to what Carla's saying.
- 6:54I'm not supposed to use her answer, but it's really
- 6:56a different answer.
- 6:57But really yeah.
- 6:59But really, you know, I was just having this conversation with someone on my team.
- 7:02I said, you know, if you spend this much time with someone and it didn't close, it's because
- 7:06you didn't have the report.
- 7:08You know?
- 7:08Did you know anything about them?
- 7:10Did you ask them any questions?
- 7:12Did you connect with them?
- 7:13If
- 7:13you connect with somebody, that's where and you find out who they are, then that's where the
- 7:19magic happens.
- 7:20And, you know, it lasts for a long time, You know?
- 7:22Yeah.
- 7:22It it it it's like, knowing, trust.
- 7:24Oh, it's always about like, knowing, trust at the end of the day.
- 7:27Mhmm.
- 7:28My favorite old school tip is pick up the phone.
- 7:31Like, pick up the phone.
- 7:32Magic happens over the phone.
- 7:33Stop sending emails.
- 7:35Pick up the phone, please.
- 7:37Especially once you have some rapport, pick up the phone.
- 7:40Last question, ladies.
- 7:42And this one this time, Sandra, I'm coming to you first.
- 7:45What is the best business book you've ever read?
- 7:49It's such a simple book.
- 7:50It's called Who Moved My Cheese?
- 7:53Have you ever heard
- 7:54of it?
- 7:55Oh, absolutely.
- 7:56Who Moved My Cheese?
- 7:57It's such an easy book.
- 7:59But, you know, somebody asked me, how do you pivot when things happen?
- 8:02And I said, you know, first, sometimes I first stomp my feet and cry and say, move my cheese,
- 8:07and then I move and do something different.
- 8:11Yeah.
- 8:11I can You know?
- 8:13First change, life changes, things happen in the economy that are outside our control.
- 8:17Yeah.
- 8:17But I like that book.
- 8:18It's such an easy read, but it had a huge impact for me.
- 8:22No.
- 8:22That would that's a old that's a classic, but that's a oldie but goodie.
- 8:25Carla, what's your favorite business book?
- 8:28It would be Verne Harnish's scaling up book, and, actually, the predecessor to it was the
- 8:34Rockefeller habits.
- 8:35Mhmm.
- 8:36It completely changed the way I thought about my business, about strategy, planning.
- 8:41I think we overdo it sometimes, and sometimes getting it just on one page, like, with their
- 8:46one page strategic plan really helps to get it out of your head and and makes it simple.
- 8:53Yeah.
- 8:53No.
- 8:54I I I'm a big, big fan of that book too.
- 8:56Verne Harnish is is is a legend in our business, so 100%, I I cosign that.
- 9:02My favorite book is actually 10 x is easier than two x by Dan Sullivan, which has become my
- 9:09favorite book that I've read in the last two years.
- 9:11I haven't read anything that shocked my world like that.
- 9:13But I've even listening to that book.
- 9:16They've got some extra interviews between Dan, because Dan's, like, 70 now.
- 9:20So we had a young guy, like, help him write it.
- 9:22So, like, they do interviews with each other in the audible version.
- 9:25Like, it's really a good book.
- 9:26So, I highly recommend it.
- 9:29Alright.
- 9:29Listen.
- 9:30Thank you so much, ladies, for being here with me on the Small Biz Chat podcast.
- 9:34You guys are amazing.
- 9:36Thank you so much to Carla Trotman.
- 9:38Please don't forget to go grab her book, Dark, dirty, and dangerous.
- 9:43Go get it on Amazon right now.
- 9:45It's a best seller.
- 9:46You need it too.
- 9:47And please go and check out Sandra James's book.
- 9:50She's got a book called Don't Tell Me I Can't.
- 9:53Okay?
- 9:54Go go get that book too.
- 9:55I love it.
- 9:56I love it, and I appreciate you both very much.
- 9:59And so please go and check out their websites, CarlaTrotman.com, and check out Sandra.
- 10:04Sandra, what is your business website?
- 10:06Privateeyesbackgroundcheckswithans.com.
- 10:10So if you need her services, go check that out as well.
- 10:15Now I'm Melinda Emerson, the small business lady, and I want to thank you for being with me
- 10:20for another episode of the Small Business Chat podcast.
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- 11:10Alright.
- 11:10I will leave you all with this.
- 11:12You never lose in business.
- 11:14Either you win or you learn.
- 11:16God bless everybody.
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- 11:44Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.