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From the Strait of Hormuz to the dollar: America’s dangerous gamble · Two Mikes on America Out Loud

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54321. Welcome back to Two Mike's Rome with
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Dr. Mike Shory, New York Times bestselling author.
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And Colonel Mike. We're so happy to have
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one of our good friends back with us.
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He's been with us since the days of
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radio. I don't know if it was Charlie
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Chaplin, Laurel and Hardy, or the Three Stooges.
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It was goes back before, but we got
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Tommy DeSabla back with us. He's a uh
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Metro DC guy, you know, had the radio
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station. Uh, he had the show on the
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radio station before WMAO was popular.
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He was doing conservative talk radio. And if
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you don't know who Tommy DeSabler is or
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was, or what show he had,
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I can tell you one thing. I used
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to call in all the time. He was
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on AM, and he's the only guy that
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told, what was her name? I'm trying to
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think of a minute. Um, I think you
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always talk about Ann Coulter. Ann Coulter, Fred
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Coulter's niece, but she's not related. Ann Coulter,
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who
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Tommy said, get off my show. I loved
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it. That was the best show you did,
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Tom.
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Welcome, Mr. Good morning, gentlemen. Good morning. Yes,
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good morning. So let's start it up. You
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and Mike start talking. I'm gonna make another
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cup of coffee while you're talking. Go ahead.
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Well, uh, you know, Dr. Mike, um,
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good morning to you.
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Good morning, sir. Michael, you're there. There he
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is. Gotta wake him up. He usually has
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two cups by him. Go ahead. Well, I
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just I was telling you about this, um,
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about this, you know, me going for a
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blast from the past. I'm like, okay, Iran,
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you know, uh Timmerman, uh, as I say,
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uh, you know, a big neocon. And and
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they say people say, well, Iran's we've been
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hearing about Iran wanting to go nuclear for
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20 years. But it's true
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that
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we've been hearing that for 20 years. Um,
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you know, because here I have uh who's
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this guy? Um, someone's answering Timmerman
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back in uh the pages of the Washington
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Times, um, let's see, published November
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26th, 2006. So that
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is literally almost 20 years ago.
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Where we have these neocons talking about Iran,
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you know, and this person who's responding
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says, Well, you know, look, um
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Timmerman wants us to do what? Go to
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war, bomb the hundreds of centrifuge sites, just
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a few to send a message. Any of
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these could mean the end of the economic
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world as we spoiled Americans currently know it.
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How we would be daring and begging the
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Iranians to block the Strait of Ormuz.
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It is their front yard. Such a tactic
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would be justified, and a military no-brainer would
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disrupt the economies of all nations, oil prices
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would skyrocket, causing a shock to our energy-dependent
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economy. We can't afford any new wars
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right now. So, whose words do you
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suppose those are, Dr. Mike? I don't know,
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sir.
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Well, mine, of course. Okay, well, good for
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you. Anyway right then, you're right now. Well,
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who cares if Iran has a nuclear weapon?
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That's Israel's problem. Well, you know, it's funny
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that you say that because as I read
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on in my uh response to Timmerman,
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um
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it said Iranian nukes are unacceptable because of
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Israel. Some Iranian leaders have said they would
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like to see Israel wiped off the map.
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Do these statements mean alone that we should
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attack Iran? No. If anyone should do so,
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it should be Israel.
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You know, uh, and what did I say
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next? Iranian nuclear threat to Israel's over Israel
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is overblown for at least two reasons. One,
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any attack would be traced back to the
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source. I mean, we know this from our
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Tom Clancy. I mean, they can look at
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any type of fallout and they can identify
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exactly where that uh nuclear material
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came from. Uh it's traceable because of the
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like the radiation signatures. And then, you know,
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if attack was deadly enough to destroy Israel,
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the Holy Land would be uninhabitable or inhabitable.
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There's no benefit for Iran. I don't believe
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there's ever been a benefit for them, and
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I think they're just posturing for the media.
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So, this is what I'm saying back then.
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And I said back then, the only answer
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is to accept Iran's sovereign authority over its
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nuclear program and emphasize deterrence to ward
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off aggression. Yeah, that's that's so crazy.
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They have made a uh uh uh kind
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of a passion about Iran, and yet
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Americans go to sleep every night and and
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uh uh are under threat constantly
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from uh Soviet or Russian and
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Chinese missiles. And we're we're smart enough to
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not go after that.
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Um
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Iran it it's uh it's simply a matter
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of being owned by the Israelis.
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That's all it is.
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The Iranians have a better culture than the
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Israelis, they probably could have a better economy.
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They're they're they're in their own way as
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ridiculously uh religious as the Israelis
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claim to be.
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Um
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to me, it is uh
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an absolute non-American interest.
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It is, you know, talk talk at the
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UN once a year and say, you know,
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it'd be good if you follow the no
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no non proliferation, whatever it is. But
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my God, they're 90 million people. They have
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the Israelis drumming up hate hatred forum all
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over the world. Um for a long time,
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they had complete support from all of Europe
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and the United States. And and what do
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you think they're gonna do? I mean, at
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the end of the day, they're only human
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beings. You get threatened long enough and you
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take action to to um deter that.
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You know, and it's funny because I would
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feel like if I was advising them, I'd
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say, what do you what are you waiting
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for? You know, do it already, you know.
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But they apparently we discover that
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this guy, the Issa Kameini, not not of
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course the old Khomeini, but the Khamenei,
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uh, we find out that he didn't want
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them to have nukes. Well, somebody that he
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had a fatwa that Iran didn't should not
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have nuclear weapons. Well, that's news to me.
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Nobody told me that one, Dr. Mike. No,
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I I didn't know that either. I read
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about it, guys. I read about it, and
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really, to be honest with you, the fatwa
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is from Israel to to Iran. That's where
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the fatwa is, okay.
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Israel is not going to be happy until
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it's wiped out.
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They want everyone destabilized, don't they? They want
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all every country that's near them, they don't
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want anybody to have their act together. Because
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if you have your act together, you could
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mount opposition. And so they want everyone
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destabilized that's in there, that's near them. I
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think the key is to to um destroy
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the Iranians because they're the they're the power
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in the in the region. Uh they're the
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wealthiest in in many ways, uh, in terms
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of human ac human capital and energy and
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other things. Then they can go ahead and
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and kill the rest of the Arabs and
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Muslims. Out to all the way out to
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Saudi Arabia, and then they have their Greater
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Israel thing.
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Yeah, either either be their friend or they're
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gonna get us to uh help destabilize and
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try to destroy. But um, this uh one
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of the reasons why I posted on X,
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and by the way, you uh I guess
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uh maybe I should pump my ex a
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little bit, uh, at Tom DeSabla on X.
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So you know, I I am
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posting regularly. Um, you know, people are rage
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baiting me and I'm I'm responding. I probably
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shouldn't. But look, people don't
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understand that we, when this whole thing started,
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we mounted the regime change operation. We
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did it. We we keep hearing Mark Levin
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and all these clowns talking about arming Iran,
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the Iranian people. We did this. This was
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what the protests were. You know, the protests
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were, and the whole thing was a setup.
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First, Bessent manipulated, uh acted through the
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currency markets to to destroy their currency market.
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Thank you. I was hoping you come in
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with the money story. Yeah, well, he first
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bescent did his thing because he's a because
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he's a freaking neocon. So he he went
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ahead and uh the treasury now. I don't
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even understand our treasury department. I know I'm
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digressing, but it's like since when is our
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treasury department now supposed to be experts in
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foreign policy? Where the hell did this come
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from?
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Because Rubio
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is the Secretary of State. He needs
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Jarrett, Bessner, he needs Mark Levin,
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he needs Glenn Beck, because Rubio can
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only come out and say, you know, we
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have to bomb the shit out of them
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or just take their oil or something. I
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don't know. So Bessent comes out
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and destabilizes their currency, uses the power of
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the U.S. Treasury and uh OFAC and all
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that to destabilize their currency. He admitted that.
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So let's just look at what's admitted. Then
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we have Mossad and Israel admitting
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uh that they sent operatives in there. And
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of course, we already have people in there,
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dissidents that we pay, that we bankroll. So
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we have people in there, uh, so then
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they have a pretext to protest. All right,
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so then Trump admitted, again admitted, that he
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sent in weapons. Now he tried to cover
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that by saying that the Kurds stole the
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weapons. Now that was damage control. Kurds didn't
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steal nothing. He sent in the weapons and
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they used them. And they were shooting and
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they were killing Iranian policemen at these protests.
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They were literally doing the whole let's cause
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murder and mayhem thing. And then how were
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they talking to each other? Oh, we have
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another admission. Elon Musk admitted that
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they sent in Starlink systems because apparently
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our satellites are basically for taking pictures, but
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Starlink is for talking to people, for people
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to communicate. So we sent in Starlink systems,
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and that's how the protesters were communicating
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with each other. So everything was going along
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pretty decently or horribly, depending on from
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whose perspective you want to look at it.
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But then enter the wild cards, the Russians.
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The Russians are like, yeah, let uh Iran,
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let me let us explain to you how
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you jam Starlink. So they jammed
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Starlink, the protesters, uh, activists,
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murderers couldn't talk to each other anymore. And
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that's what shut the whole thing down. So
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then, once that happened, then we had to
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do damage control. So basically, Iran's like, yeah,
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this was really bad, it was horrible. We
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lost 3,000 people died. So then our
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NGOs got involved and were like, 3,000, huh?
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Well, uh, we're gonna do a little because
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since, of course, Iran lies about everything, we're
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gonna do an extrapolation, uh
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statistical extrapolation and say that, well, since you
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said it was 3,000, we're gonna multiply that
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by a factor of 10 and call it
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30,000. So that's where the original
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30,000 figure came up was a pure extrapolation.
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Then of course, people can't, that's not good
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enough. So now you hear that people are
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starting to tack on the numbers. It's first
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it was 40, then it's 50, now it's
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60. I mean, they they're just jacking
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it up to just astronomical, made-up
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numbers. And the whole thing was a regime
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change operation that failed. Now that's funny is
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that everybody's in denial. They're like, oh, well,
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arm the Iranians, and Levin is like, arm
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these people. It's like, you dumb doofus, they
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did it already. We tried it, it didn't
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work.
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Tommy, he should be the new. You remember
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the Uncle Sam poster, I want you. He
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should have his own poster, we want you.
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You know, the IDF in Israel. He ain't
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never gonna put a uniform on, neither is
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his kid. You know?
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I'm amazed.
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I'm amazed at the narratives. Now that I've
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kind of, you know, I mean, I'm reaching
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a point where now that I don't listen
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to the mainstream media at all, I've I
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feel like I'm more better informed than I've
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ever been. And the narratives that we have
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are are astounding. I don't know if you
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guys noticed this, but when before we did
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this, before we uh, you know, we started
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the bombing campaign, and you know, and of
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course on the first day we killed the
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Aitola guy and we killed the kids in
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the school. So that was on day one,
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right? But before that day,
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and even and even for a minute they
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thought, because that's right about the time right
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after that, that they mounted their like street
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operation. But we were told, and I wonder
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how many people have noticed this narrative shift.
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We were told Iran was a dictatorship, that
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the Ayatollah was a dictator, that the people
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hated him, and if he was dead, the
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people would rise up. Well, everybody remembers that
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narrative, do we not? Oh, yeah.
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Well, now notice that the narrative has shifted.
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It's now the IRGC, you see.
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And this is clever on multiple levels. Number
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one, it's great that you can suddenly get
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people to forget that you said it was
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the Ayatollah. Now that the Ayatollah is dead
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uh and it didn't work, now it's the
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IRGC. But the other beautiful part of it
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is when you say the Ayatollah is a
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dictator and then you kill them, well, that
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exposes that you're it was just a narrative,
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and then it was bull crap. Except for
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with the IRGC, they avoid that trap because
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now there's no one person that if you
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kill them, it would disprove your narrative. See,
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so this narrative now they got they're like,
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okay, it's the IRGC. See, so now we
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cannot prove that their narrative is BS because
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now it's a multi, it's it's a whole
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organization rather than one guy.
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They just couldn't call it a color revolution
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because they had that in Ukraine.
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But it's just funny how they can switch
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a narrative, and these gullible fools
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just never seem to have noticed that they
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switched the narrative on them. They didn't even
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notice that first it was the Ayatollah, and
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then now it's the IRGC, and everybody just
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like repeating it, parroting it. Oh, it's the
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RGC. Well, that's not what you said before
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you killed the Ayatollah. You said it was
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him.
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It's it seems to me what we have
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here really is
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an enormous need for a uh
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what do they call it? An economic evaluation
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of the Pentagon.
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We haven't won a war since 1945.
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Why do we expect our military, after all
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of that background, to win
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anything? They can't even keep the toilets running
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on an aircraft carrier. How are they gonna
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win a war?
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Um well against a against a near peer
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adversary, right? I mean, you know, you you
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go and you beat up, it's kind of
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like a it's kind of like a uh
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what do they call it, a man-eating tiger
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or something, you know. You can attack weak
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things that can't fight back, but against a
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peer adversary, uh you know,
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you're just running on on opium and and
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narrative. You really don't have the ability to
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defeat a a peer adversary or even
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a near-peer adversary. That's that's exactly right.
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And and uh I'm sure that there's a
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lot of unfriendly people in this world who
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have finally gone to school on what the
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American military can't do. And I think
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the beginning of it was that disaster. Um
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we're supposed to be the great greatest lot
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logisticians on earth, and we made such a
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hash out of getting out of Afghanistan, that
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must have shocked a lot of people in
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the world.
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Yeah, did everything backwards, didn't we? We should
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have, we should have took, we should have
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first off uh got all the uh citizens
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that were helping us. They should have got
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out first, then we should have retreated to
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our base and then got the equipment out,
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and then the people last. Like instead, we
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did everything in a reverse order. We left
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the base, abandoned it, and then we were
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stuck in a place we couldn't defend, and
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we didn't get the people out first. So
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those that's what you got to get out.
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The people, then the equipment, and then our
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guys. It's a very dangerous thing to take
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Afghans anywhere, sir. No matter if they worked
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for you or not. They were not working
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for you, they were working for a buck.
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And to bring Afghans into this country
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after you've destroyed their country, and it's always
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going to be their country.
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Um
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that's you know, it it's an insanity. And
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what does it take?
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We went in there, the Soviets had just
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gotten beaten a decade earlier.
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The Russians got beat, the British got beat
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three times, Alexander the Great got beat.
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Is there not a message somewhere in there
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that these people no matter what you think
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of their country as a ship bird or
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a shitburger or whatever you think of it,
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they love it.
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And the one thing the only thing that
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unites them, they're a very diverse people and
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a very um
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uh prone to fight with each other people.
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But boy, when a foreigner gets in their
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country, you're done like dinner. And
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no, we used we we were called on
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to brief all of these guys who were
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going out to Afghanistan, colonels, lieutenant colonels, light
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uh generals or brigadiers. Not a one of
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them knew anything about the country. And one
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of them, one of them told us the
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only thing we know about Afghanistan is what's
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on uh uh you know the the the
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Tom Brokov and Dan Brother.
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They knew precisely nothing about it.
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And um
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and many of them didn't care. You know,
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there was there's a tremendous book written by
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the Red Army's uh chief of staff and
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his officers, a very honest book,
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about uh uh why they lost in
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Afghanistan. And we we must have talked to
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40 or more uh people of the
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rank we we uh we mentioned I
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mentioned. Not one of them had read that
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book.
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Well, it should have been required reading, Mike.
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But just think about this. Let's just take
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a quick commercial break. If you're in and
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around the beltway and you're in northern Virginia,
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or maybe Montgomery County, or even DC, we
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have Afghan restaurants now. So enjoy your meal.
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Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, I I I just
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you know, if you're not prepared in life,
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you always get your ass kicked in. And
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we've got our ass kicked in every war
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since 1945, basically, if we're honest about it.
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We haven't won anything except them we beat
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the madey mighty Grenadians down in the
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Caribbean.
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You know, you know, also every war is
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a war that's six thousand miles away. That's
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right. I mean, and and that's a that's
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such a good point. Uh it it
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no one thinks about how far these damn
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things are away from us. That's exactly right.
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Remember those old hippie songs in school? A
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thousand miles, a thousand miles, the old folk
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tunes, you know, you could have six thousand
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miles. We could do a new one, Tommy.
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Do it with a folk guitar, right? We
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we could, but you know, it's like uh
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I I feel like also, too, you know,
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there's all these sub subtrends, you know. Uh
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our military is is weaker than it was
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when we went to Vietnam and uh when
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we went in uh uh Iraq the first
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time, and then it's weaker now than it
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was then. Um we've never
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updated uh a lot of our uh uh
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offensive and frankly defensive uh air
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defense uh weapons. We haven't really updated anything.
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Well, I think this Epstein Fury, this Epstein
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Fury thing has proven it. Look what they
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did to the bases in the Middle East,
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all the all the money that they spent
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on the weapons for the protection of us
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being there. And look what the Iranians did
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with the Radio Shack uh, if I want
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to call them Radio Shack uh drones. You
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know, this this comes back to Dr. Mike's
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you know uh uh arrogance that we have.
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Like we thought we were surrounding them,
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whereas from their perspective, we were putting
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ourselves in range as targets. That's right.
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It's gonna be much easier to get them
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here.
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You know, exactly. I mean, uh again, and
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as I said in 2006, and I say
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now, um, you know,
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it was we could see where this was
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headed. Um, and you know, like you also
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said, and I I like to echo it
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thinks the the wisdom that you have. You
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know, some of the things that we do,
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um, we have uh you would have thought,
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like we back in the 80s, we played
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Iraq against Iran after the
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Islamic Revolution. We played Iraq against Iran,
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we funded Saddam Hussein, he was our buddy,
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and uh we funded them in that war.
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Well, okay, but look now what we've
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done. We've literally, besides the fact that we
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destroyed Iraq and completely destabilized the place, and
22:19
I guess now we're finally gone. But uh
22:22
you know, it took the Iranians to get
22:24
us out, Tom. Remember that. It took the
22:26
Iranians to get us out. Well, listen, and
22:29
when we talk about what something took, it
22:31
took us to make them friends again.
22:35
We literally now they're pals. So this
22:38
is our wisdom of our great foreign
22:41
policy. We've now made, we've now
22:45
done what I would have thought would have
22:46
been impossible. We've made Iraq and
22:49
Iran friends again through our through
22:52
our stupidity. That's what we've achieved.
22:57
Absolutely. And now let me just just throw
22:59
a little note about Afghanistan because I think
23:01
Mike Mike fails to mention it
23:04
sometimes. Um, you know, we were there for
23:07
a long time, and that was the you
23:09
know, the old communist thing back in the
23:11
days of Osama bin Laden, you know, from
23:13
Reagan to whatever, but we stayed there. How
23:15
many years, Mike, total? We were there right
23:18
from the start. So that would have been
23:20
late 70s to the 93. Okay,
23:23
I worked on that for 12 years. Okay,
23:26
so from 70s to 93, but I mean,
23:29
we're totally out since Biden, let's say, right?
23:32
Yeah, correct? Okay. How many
23:35
years? Just how many years did those rag
23:38
taggers cultivate the poppies?
23:41
How many years did those military guys in
23:44
uniforms holding those heavy duty weapons turn their
23:47
head and probably say at some point to
23:50
their uh officer in charge, hey, what are
23:53
we doing here? These people don't want women
23:56
without clothes, they want to be fully clothed,
23:58
they have these weird things about their religion,
24:01
they're they have all these kind of hangups,
24:03
but they got no problem growing these pompees.
24:07
So why are we here protecting pompees and
24:10
talking about communism and talking about women's
24:13
voting rights? Absolutely, we were there for one
24:16
big reason, too. The drug business.
24:20
Well, it was the
24:22
it was the choice of the defense
24:24
secretary that those would not be
24:28
touched. Yeah.
24:30
My guys went to brief them. We had
24:32
we had mapped the country for all their
24:34
major, they called them uh heroin factories.
24:38
And we had mapped it, and uh
24:41
we went uh maybe three or four days
24:44
after 9-11. What the hell was his name?
24:48
But he was the the defense secretary for
24:50
Bush Jr. Is that Rumsfeld? Rumsfeld. Yeah,
24:54
Rumsfeld. And he listened for a couple minutes
24:56
and he said, Let me stop you, gentlemen.
24:58
The U.S. Army is not engaged and does
25:01
not care about the cultivation of uh
25:04
heroin.
25:06
Well, that was a quick decoy because guess
25:09
what? We became the suppliers
25:12
of that stuff, obviously, because if you didn't
25:15
care about it, you would have firebombed it,
25:17
you would have poisoned it, you would have
25:18
put glycophate, you would have gone to Walmart
25:20
and got Roundup. But nobody brought Walmart's Roundup
25:23
that they killed the food with, right? That
25:26
uh weed killer. So they let it grow.
25:28
And and remember, since the 70s, we had
25:31
many, many bouts of uh
25:34
heroin addiction. It first started in the
25:37
ghettos, then it started in the white neighborhoods,
25:40
then they had the cocaine run in the
25:41
80s with Miami Vice, right? So as the
25:44
drug dealers of choice, you know, the the
25:47
West, and then
25:50
after the heroin episodes and all this, we
25:53
we we have the legal drug dealers. What
25:57
the what's the name of that family?
26:01
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26:04
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slash out loud. What's the name of that
28:19
family uh that was selling the uh
28:22
with the sackers? Yes, the sacklers. When we
28:25
couldn't no longer do that poppy business, we
28:27
brought in the sackers and that what what
28:29
is that thing called? Um what's their pill
28:32
called, Tommy? It's not uh quaelude.
28:35
Oxycoden. Oxycodon, yeah.
28:38
Oxycodon. 460 citizens in
28:41
Williamsville, Williamson, West Virginia. I think there's
28:44
460 or 4,600 uh population,
28:48
and they had enough oxy in that town
28:51
to kill like two states, right? And here's
28:54
how you get out of it when you're
28:56
a legal drug dealer like the Sacklers, who
28:58
are multi-billionaires. You just pay the fine, like
29:00
the bank. You know, when the bank does
29:01
something wrong, okay, how much is it? All
29:03
right, we we what did we do? We
29:05
stole three billion, no problem. We give you
29:07
100 million. All right, that's it. We're we're
29:09
not pleading guilty, it's no low contendo and
29:11
all the other stuff, but we'll just give
29:13
you 10 billion, 100 billion, and put it
29:16
in the treasury, whatever you guys want to
29:17
do, we're keeping the rest. Nobody goes to
29:19
jail, right? And then along comes the jab.
29:22
And then, okay, guys, we gave you poppies,
29:25
we gave you cocaine. Well, the cocaine, where
29:27
did that come from, Tommy? Right? Nicaragua,
29:30
Nicaragua, right? Manuel. Well, that's a that's a
29:33
transit point. They don't grow the case.
29:35
Yeah, they were because we had the Contras.
29:38
And in order for us to sell the
29:40
weapons and get the weapons from that guy,
29:42
I think we used the Iranians that time
29:44
too, right? We bought the weapons from the
29:45
Iranians, we used the cocaine money, but then
29:47
we had Nicaragua, we had El Salvador, we
29:50
had Andorra, everything coming through. Then where did
29:52
we land? Oh my gosh. Let me see.
29:56
What's that lady, Carmen Miranda? Arkansas.
29:59
Imagine that, Mina, Arkansas. All this shit was
30:02
flying into Mina, Arkansas. Remember Barry Seals, right?
30:05
He was the pilot. And that all that
30:08
really, and guess who became the governor? Oh
30:12
my gosh, a guy that's, and then he
30:15
becomes the president. His name is Willie Clinton,
30:18
right? All of this shit is all related,
30:21
you know? Bush Sr., then Clinton,
30:24
then this guy, and then more drugs, and
30:26
then we go kill F. We had to
30:28
kill the Iraqis, you know. You don't remember
30:29
what Ben Benjamin
30:31
said. All we have to do is take
30:33
out Iraq, and they'll come out with flags,
30:36
and they're gonna have that democracy, just like
30:38
he said about Iran. If we only bomb
30:40
Iran, we're gonna have this, this, and that.
30:42
Now, let me tell you what's not on
30:44
PBS anymore for Michael and you, all right?
30:46
I don't see any more Rick Steves Iran
30:49
shows. They used to run the Rick Steves
30:51
Iranian show at least twice a month on
30:53
PBS. They're no longer showing Rick Steves in
30:56
Iran because that was a show that was
30:58
pro- it was pro-good for the people. It
31:00
showed you that they weren't getting their heads
31:02
chopped off. There was no gays flying off
31:04
the roofs. Rick Steves went all over many,
31:07
many cities in the country of Iran and
31:10
telling you how great it was, the food
31:11
was great. Oh, by the way, I gotta
31:14
tell you something. Some of those girls looked
31:16
as sexy as they do in Las Vegas.
31:19
You don't see that on radio TV, you
31:21
know what I mean? So it's all bullshit.
31:24
It's just we need your oil. We're gonna
31:26
take your oil. We have John Gotti in
31:29
the White House, John Gotti, uh the American
31:31
version, I'm sorry, not the Italian version, American
31:33
version. We go first for Venezuela, then we
31:36
get there. And I'm sure that China is
31:38
just gloating. Remember when China came here just
31:40
a week or so ago, Tom?
31:43
Yeah, he says, Hey, let me go see
31:45
this constitution. When I saw that, I had
31:47
so many comedy things talk about, but let's
31:50
go see what this constitution says. Well, what
31:53
they told him was, look, you want
31:56
to get out of this, go back to
31:58
the MOU that you signed, and he
32:01
can't do that. Well, my whole thing is,
32:04
and that's another thing that's suddenly gone by
32:06
the wayside. No one seems to be asking,
32:09
Mr. President, why did you sign this thing?
32:12
You signed it, you have we have to
32:14
assume you signed it because you intended to
32:17
honor it. Why are you signing it if
32:19
you didn't intend to honor it? You're not
32:22
honoring it, you know. Nobody even seems to
32:24
call him out on that. He signed the
32:26
freaking thing. So it's like, you know, uh,
32:29
that shows you like why would you do
32:32
that if you were winning? If you were
32:34
really winning, why are you signing this thing?
32:37
So he signs it, and then a Chinese
32:39
guy comes in. Uh uh, the Giz comes
32:42
in and says, Look, uh, you aren't off,
32:43
ramp. Do what you said you were gonna
32:46
do, sign this. But the president won't do
32:48
it, they won't do it. They the you
32:50
know, they will not follow through with that
32:52
because it's a complete capitulation. It was a
32:55
document of complete capitulation. Now it's like, you
32:58
know, what are you gonna do now? You
33:00
you know, they've already established what they can
33:03
do. You know, Iran has established what they
33:06
can do, so we haven't established anything, so
33:09
now it's just a bunch of lies, and
33:11
it's amazing that they're getting away with it.
33:14
Does Lyndon Johnson ring a bell that name?
33:17
Anybody ring a bell? Lyndon Johnson? Remember that?
33:19
Vietnam War.
33:23
Bog down.
33:26
Well, that's what he I think he's getting
33:28
ready to go in. Um what what I've
33:31
been hearing, now I'll just put this out
33:33
there. I've been hearing that he understands that
33:36
they understand they can't land a
33:39
force on the Iranian side. They can't come
33:43
in that side. They they they've no, there's
33:46
no way that that will work. So what
33:48
I think they're doing, uh, what they
33:51
very well may be doing is they may
33:53
be planning to come in on the Omani
33:56
side, and they're gonna actually come in
33:59
Oman, and that way they think that then
34:02
from that uh from that vantage
34:05
point and from being able to like dig
34:08
in on that side of the strait, that
34:11
then they can contest with Iran uh from
34:14
the other side and get that straight
34:17
opened. That may be their plan.
34:20
Well, if they do that, Mike, I'll I'll
34:23
go with this one, Mike and Tom. If
34:25
they do that, their neighbors, UAE,
34:28
Bahrain, Oman, and
34:32
everybody else, look out. Just look
34:35
out because they're not just gonna come for
34:37
the Americans, they're gonna make you. Put this
34:40
way, who's right on the border? You fool
34:42
around in Oman. Who's on the border? Ansar
34:45
Allah, the Houthis. And they are they are
34:49
not going to take well to any of
34:51
this. I think what's gonna happen is they
34:54
think they're gonna set up shop on the
34:56
Omani side, and all they're gonna do is
34:59
be in a shooting gallery for the Houthis
35:02
and Iran. And I think they may think
35:05
they're being clever, but it's really just gonna
35:08
be the same thing. They're gonna be freaking
35:10
uh, they're gonna be a sitting duck for
35:13
the Iranians and for Nsar Allah. And those
35:16
are not people you want to trifle with.
35:18
They are like really not. I mean, all
35:21
my sources tell me that they are not
35:24
to be trifled with. You are.
35:26
What do you know about them? Mike may
35:28
know it. Mike, what do you know about
35:28
the Houtis Kazutis? The Houtis are
35:32
all Yemenis are very tough people, very
35:35
religious people, and very good fighters. A large
35:38
segment of Al-Qaeda was uh uh um
35:41
Yemeni, including Houthis. And
35:44
uh the other thing about the the plan
35:47
to uh invade is you have to keep
35:50
from World War II, we know, you have
35:53
to keep your resupply fleet pretty close to
35:56
the shore or within within you know shooting
35:59
distance. And how do you they'll they'll they'll
36:02
finally have a US Navy that doesn't run
36:05
because they'll have to stay there to protect
36:07
the troops they landed. And they'll shoot the
36:10
shit out of that landing force and its
36:13
uh uh supply ships.
36:16
It's it's a madness.
36:18
I think we should just go ahead, Mike.
36:21
According to Iran, they have they have uh
36:24
missiles that they can redirect in flight to
36:26
moving targets. Now you would think you would
36:29
think, well, they're just lying, but so far
36:33
they don't look like liars. No.
36:36
Well, maybe we're coming up on an election,
36:38
it'll be an October surprise kind of thing.
36:40
But again, try to keep the hooties close
36:42
to you because I understand they got some
36:44
of the greatest coffee. And right now, Tommy,
36:47
we got a believe it or not, we
36:49
got a hootie shop out there uh on
36:52
Route 7. I want to say Route 7,
36:54
just right after you pass Leesburg, coming in
36:57
towards Tyson. And I think Nova's on the
36:59
left, the you know, the campus, Northern America,
37:01
what is it, Northern Virginia County. Have you
37:03
driven Campton or Colonel? Oh, tell me about
37:06
it. I drove many times on the way
37:08
home. I stopped there. That is premier Mike.
37:11
If you go there, you're gonna want to
37:13
take that route every time now. It's right
37:16
next to the ATT store. It's a real
37:18
Yemenese coffee shop. It makes Starbucks look like
37:21
uh uh beyond 7-Eleven. It's a
37:24
marble shop. It's got the real stuff.
37:29
I think is it Mocha their city, Mocha?
37:32
I don't know. But Tommy, they got killed.
37:34
If you like coffee and you want to,
37:36
you're down that way one day, you know,
37:37
when you're doing your thing, you just go
37:39
over there. It's opposite the uh it's where
37:41
the red light is, where Nova campus is,
37:43
the Northern Virginia Community College. And it's right
37:46
in one of those strip malls. There's a
37:47
Greek restaurant, there's an ATT, and I think
37:50
behind it is Harris Teeter or something like
37:52
that. But you want to stop by and
37:54
say hello to the Hooties. I go on
37:55
the way when I'm in and out of
37:56
that that area. I stop by and get
37:59
that coffee. I get it on the way
38:00
home. So I could, you know, I could
38:01
do like that Tesla stuff. When I drink
38:04
that coffee, Mike, I don't even I just
38:06
close my eyes and fall asleep behind the
38:07
wheel, let the car go.
38:10
Well, I could put my Islamophobia aside for
38:13
long enough to enjoy a good cup of
38:15
coffee.
38:18
Let me say something to you. You know,
38:20
between Mark Levin, once in a while I
38:22
gotta look at them, not on X, but
38:23
I I gotta listen in, you know, on
38:25
Night Show or replay or whatever. You know,
38:28
between him, Bangino, uh, what's this other
38:31
guy? Joe, Joe Pags out in
38:34
Texas, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity. You know,
38:37
we gotta save Israel. Why don't we do
38:40
this? Can we get the uh can we
38:41
get the black robe uh pro-Israeli
38:44
pastors to to suit up, Mike, make him
38:46
you know get back into the military? Because
38:48
they got 10,000 pastors now on the propaganda,
38:51
uh, propaganda tour, Tommy. 10,000
38:54
evangelical pastors have visited or are visiting
38:57
total, it'll be 10,000. And and telling us
39:00
why we got to take out Iran. Uh,
39:02
and by the way, there's Jewish people in
39:04
Iran, you know, real Jews, real synagogues, and
39:06
there's real Christians there. We got to take
39:08
them out so that, you know, it'll be
39:11
better. Now, just let's go back a little
39:12
bit in time because we got the historian
39:14
on with us. Um back in the day
39:18
when they were coming from Europe, they were
39:20
getting kicked out of Europe. Uh, it was
39:22
during the time of the World War II,
39:24
post-World War II. They had these signs on
39:26
the on the back of the ships, please,
39:28
we need a place to stay. And remember,
39:29
the Palestinians opened up the door and let
39:31
them in. We know that story. And then
39:33
they came in and they were there living
39:35
there. But they wanted, they just wanted to
39:37
have a place to live where they wouldn't
39:39
be chased, right? That was the whole concept.
39:41
The concept was we need a we want
39:43
to go back to the land or whatever,
39:45
and we want a place to live. But
39:46
now that they're there, they don't want nobody
39:48
in the neighborhood. They're actually the original nimbies,
39:51
Tom. Not in my backyard. We don't want
39:54
any Muslims. They're the original nimbies. Oh, and
39:57
your backyard? That's my backyard now.
40:01
The settlers are like, yeah, you that was
40:03
your backyard. Oh, in the Lebanon, these were
40:06
your olive trees. Now we burnt them down.
40:08
Did you see that? The thousand, two thousand-year-old
40:12
olive trees, they're just ripping them apart in
40:14
in uh Lebanon, they're ripping them in in
40:17
uh Israel and Gaza. But here's the
40:20
thing you know, I read this in the
40:22
Bible and I brought it out, I brought
40:23
it to attention of some of one of
40:25
our guests. In war, it says in the
40:28
book in the Bible, in war, you should
40:30
not touch the fruits or the trees. You
40:32
don't touch that stuff, you don't rip it
40:34
out of the ground. Okay, right. You're also
40:37
not supposed to shoot kids in the nuts
40:38
either. But
40:40
Deuteronomy talks about, and then it talks about
40:42
it in Revelation, right? And you know, these
40:45
people are supposed to be the holy ones,
40:46
the religious ones, because they prayed to the
40:48
wall, right? You say to yourself, Well, why
40:50
are they doing this? Why you there was
40:52
one lady I saw a picture yesterday, she
40:54
was hugging her tree as they were excavating
40:56
it out of the ground. She wouldn't let
40:57
go of her tree. I mean, that's a
40:59
that's an income. And by the way, you
41:02
know, it's got some of the greatest olive
41:03
oil, like Spain and Italy and so on,
41:05
you know. If you go to uh there's
41:08
a shop in Chantilly, I think it is.
41:11
It may be a Turkish shop, but it's
41:13
a Middle East kind of shop. You can
41:14
buy all that stuff there. That's one of
41:16
the very few places you can actually buy
41:19
Palestinian olive oil. They have like seven,
41:23
eight brands there. And it's not cheap, guys.
41:25
It's not cheap, but it must be super
41:27
duper. You know what I mean? It must
41:28
be like really, you know, five-star quality.
41:32
But it's the only store.
41:39
Because they have Syrian olive oil and they
41:40
have Lebanese olive oil and they have Palestinian
41:42
olive oil in that store. And it was
41:44
amazing. I won't say the price, it's just
41:46
was high price, but it was, I said,
41:48
this has got to be the it's got
41:49
to be the bomb of bombs of uh
41:51
of olive oil, you know. But they had
41:52
a lot of products from that area. And
41:54
I think a lot of the stuff somehow
41:56
gets through Lebanon. Maybe they repackage it, they
41:58
relabel it, you know, like we used to
42:00
do in Asia years ago. When you had
42:02
a sanction in Asia back in the 90s,
42:05
your country company would just put Singapore uh
42:08
labels on and then ship it down to
42:10
Singapore and ship it out on a ship
42:11
through Singapore. So you got around these stupid
42:14
U.S. sanctions that they would put on people
42:17
because they didn't like uh Ang Songsu Ki
42:20
or something like that. You know what I
42:21
mean? So that's the way that rolls. But
42:23
listen, we're not winning, we're not winning. Uh
42:26
he may pull, he may do what you're
42:27
talking about, Tommy, because we're coming up on
42:29
election, right? Uh he may do martial law,
42:32
that's another thing, you know. But he's got
42:34
to check in. He's got to check in
42:35
with BB. What BB wants is what BB's
42:37
been getting so far. And he's got to
42:39
check in with Mark Levin and also Jared,
42:41
because in the end, there's always a hotel
42:43
deal. You sometimes you got to buy an
42:45
island, sometimes you got to, you know, if
42:48
I think if Jared could sign a couple
42:49
of deals for hotels in an island somewhere
42:52
there, they'll settle it. But what this this
42:55
conflict or this war, this Epstein Fury war,
42:58
which is what it is, it's basically because
43:00
of the Epstein files, we went to war.
43:02
And because we're we're gluttons now. We want
43:05
to.
43:08
They took Congress into recess rather than deal
43:10
with it. Mass has said they're going to
43:12
recess Congress, and they all called him a
43:15
liar, and that's exactly what they did. They
43:18
went into recess, they're not doing anything until
43:20
after the midterms. It's like, I thought you
43:22
were supposed to be doing the people's work.
43:24
I thought you all supposedly cared about this
43:26
Epstein stuff. They don't, they're covering it up.
43:29
Yep. Well, the both parts remember when Joe
43:32
Biden was the president. I mean, people forget
43:35
when he was the president, he could have
43:36
released these files, right? That's right. So I
43:39
mean they had the same information. In fact,
43:42
I think Mike will agree. Their
43:45
FBI was a little bit more stronger on
43:47
breaking nuts, weren't they? They weren't like this
43:50
guy.
43:52
Yeah, well, he just
43:54
it's just it's incredible the people he picks
43:57
is they're just such creeps. No, I mean,
44:01
look at look at the uh look at
44:02
the two people that that Biden had. I
44:04
mean, whether he picked them or somebody else
44:06
did. I mean, he had Garland, right? And
44:09
and uh and they they didn't give a
44:11
shit. They kept going straight away, you know,
44:13
take Trump to court, do whatever you gotta
44:15
do. And then his who was his uh
44:17
who's the Secretary of State, Mike? Blinken, right?
44:20
Blinken. Blinken, yeah, Blinken. Yeah, Blinken was an
44:23
actual Secretary of State. He went around and
44:25
got things done, whether they were good, bad,
44:26
or ugly. You know, Rubio, he's like he's
44:29
like the pitch hitter. All right, let's uh
44:32
we'll send Bessett. Okay, we'll send Grinnell, uh,
44:35
we'll send Luis. Uh let's see. We got
44:38
another one. Batter up. Uh, let's see, we'll
44:40
send uh yeah, we'll send Elon. They send
44:43
everybody but the Secretary of State. But you
44:46
know what? That's funny, they believe their own
44:49
bull crap. The the even the even the
44:51
CIA director, he goes over to Russia and
44:54
threatens them and tells them that they're in
44:58
trouble. And it's like Russia's like, you know,
45:00
maybe you believe your own propaganda, son, but
45:04
we're not in trouble. Why don't you get
45:05
back on your little plane and get the
45:07
fuck out of here? Because we're not interested
45:09
in any of your threats. We don't care
45:11
what you don't you don't even, you're the
45:13
CIA director and you know less than you
45:16
know nothing. You just you like these guys,
45:20
how do they guys what do we pay
45:22
these guys for?
45:23
You know, Dr. Mike, what do we pay
45:25
these guys for? They don't know anything. No,
45:29
it's that that's the column. But they what
45:31
they they do know is they know how
45:33
to follow orders and they know where the
45:34
money lies. And so they you don't mind
45:37
seeing uh 3,000 Americans get killed.
45:41
They don't mind us getting our asses kicked
45:43
in wars as long as the money keeps
45:45
flowing. It's the kind of people we are
45:48
now, Mike. Tommy, they said the
45:51
CIA director who was
45:54
before he was another he was
45:56
another piece in in the first administration,
46:00
and and he let that whole thing of
46:02
the uh the Russia collusion, you know, that's
46:05
slide by. I mean, when he went to
46:07
Russia, they you know what it is? They
46:10
must have had like a popcorn night. They
46:11
got the big screen. Here, here comes the
46:13
CIA director, right? And Lavrov and the other
46:15
guys are all having a drink, smoking a
46:18
cigar or whatever, and then okay, let's see
46:20
what the clowns coming in. You're like, can
46:22
you put Rubio against Lavrov, Tommy? No way,
46:25
no way. I mean, come on. Uh I'd
46:28
trade the whole state department for Lavrov.
46:34
He's old enough to throw in a couple
46:36
of carriers, too, I think. Yeah, throwing a
46:39
couple carriers. You know, the thing is that
46:41
these guys, the guys that we have, I
46:43
mean, look, like you said, uh uh uh
46:46
Dr. Mike, the guys we have really don't
46:49
know anything. The the guys he appoints guys
46:52
who don't know anything, and the reason why
46:54
he does that is because he doesn't know
46:57
anything and he doesn't want them to show
46:59
him up and detect
47:01
you know, right? So if they're dumb as
47:03
so stumps too, then that suits, then that's
47:06
what it's kind of like the three blind
47:09
mice over there. They send this, but it
47:11
kills me how the CIA director
47:13
doesn't know that Russia's kicking the crap out
47:17
of Ukraine. How is it he has an
47:19
entire agency at his disposal and he doesn't
47:22
know that, and he goes over there and
47:24
threatens them? It's like it's not that he
47:27
doesn't know it, Tom. It's that they just
47:29
ignore the news. They that doesn't fit into
47:32
what the president wants to do. I was
47:35
in charge of making a paper uh or
47:37
preparing a paper on the basis of 20
47:39
years of the agency's uh 25 years of
47:42
the agency's uh uh information,
47:46
electronic information on Iraq, and
47:49
uh about a a possible uh nuclear
47:53
connection between Osama bin Laden and Iraq.
47:56
And we went through all that. I had
47:58
four or five people, and we went through
48:00
around a hundred thousand documents, maybe more.
48:04
And not a link.
48:07
And the thing is, when you when you
48:09
finish a paper like that, you don't know
48:11
what happens to it.
48:14
Uh is it ever delivered to the president?
48:16
Is it ever delivered to the director? You
48:19
don't know.
48:21
And you produce the product, but you're you
48:23
can't make them read it. No, they can't
48:26
you can't.
48:28
Who was that guy during the Vietnam War,
48:30
the Pentagon Papers, Daniel What? What was his
48:32
name? Ellsberg. Yeah, they don't have Ellsberg's
48:35
around anymore either. You know? Well, you could
48:38
see
48:39
we got Blumenthal, he's pretty good. Oh, you
48:42
mean Max? Ellsberg, though, he had the advantage
48:45
of having access to the documents. Yeah, that's
48:48
what I mean. Yeah, he's not inside. Max
48:49
is outside, but Max Max has a lot
48:51
of stuff. But again, they'll they'll call him
48:52
an Islamophobia. Uh uh, you know, he's he'll
48:55
be a uh Qatar son or something, you
48:57
know. Like when Tucker talks about Qatar, by
49:00
the way, he's Qatar son or something, you
49:03
know. But nobody's a Paxon, they don't have
49:05
an Apax support. You know what I mean?
49:07
No, and but you know what though, back
49:09
to what you guys were saying about the
49:11
pastors that Israel's paying, you know,
49:14
as soon as Candace, as soon as Candace
49:17
and Tucker got off the Israeli train, all
49:20
of a sudden these guys uh all they
49:22
do is um try to trash them. And
49:24
it's like really obvious the way they do
49:27
it. It's like it's almost like they got
49:29
a secret code. You go on and you
49:32
post, and when you post about Candace, you
49:35
misspell her name and you say, I used
49:38
to like her. Oh, I used to be
49:40
a big fan. It's kind of like their
49:41
little like talking points. Okay, uh, misspell her
49:45
name and say you used to like her.
49:46
That's how we know you're on our team,
49:48
and we'll give you the money. Oh, yeah,
49:50
yeah, yeah. Payment program.
49:53
Yeah, I mean, there is a payment program.
49:56
She documented it because the pastors that they
49:59
have all these NGOs, they pay people to
50:01
come out and post stuff pro-Israel stuff, and
50:05
that means anti-Candice, anti-Tucker stuff, and they pay
50:08
people to do it. They've admitted it.
50:12
Well, I would say this is about the
50:14
time of the show, Mike, where I got
50:15
to take my commercial break again.
50:19
As we always say, listen, we have the
50:21
TWOMiks.us website, and you can also go to
50:24
to mics.com if it's easier for you. And
50:28
we're we're looking for some new sponsors. And
50:30
Tommy, we said this on a previous show
50:32
before you came on today, that uh if
50:34
you're gonna go first class, whether economy, business,
50:38
first class, and you wanted to have, let's
50:40
say, an airline, an airline that sponsors a
50:43
show like the two mic show, which is
50:45
freedom of speech and first amendment, just like
50:47
our national security show on Monday night at
50:49
8 p.m. on AmericaOut Loud.news, where it's freedom
50:52
of speech, First Amendment. I would say if
50:55
Qatar is listening, and they may be listening,
50:57
you know, everybody listens to your devices now.
50:59
We're we would welcome to have Qatar Airlines.
51:02
It's just a five-star airline, it's number one
51:05
going around the globe. If Qatar is listening
51:08
or Qatar Airlines is listening, this is the
51:10
portion of the show we want you to
51:12
go to our website, email. Don't get me
51:14
wrong, I'll take that Qatari money. What do
51:16
you mean? You know, they're not offering me
51:18
that money, but but if you got the
51:20
check, you want to write some checks, man.
51:21
You know, I'm all there. I'm all for
51:23
yeah. I mean, I'm all in because listen,
51:25
I'm gonna tell you something. If you ever
51:27
took that airline, and I've took it many
51:28
times in the past, if you ever took
51:30
that airline, you're gonna get on there and
51:32
you're gonna see Jewish people, Indian people, American
51:35
people, French people, European people. Everybody
51:38
takes that airline. They have no problem
51:41
getting that first class economy class, business
51:45
class, and smooth sailing and great service. Go
51:48
look online, ladies and gentlemen. If you think
51:50
I'm lying, number one airline in the world.
51:52
They fly to all parts of the world.
51:55
So again, since I hear they're giving,
51:58
what was it? The last thing I heard,
52:00
Mike, about the universities, how many billions? What'd
52:02
they pour? $8 billion into the American University.
52:05
Yeah, I can't remember the number.
52:06
Hey guys, we're not that expensive. In fact,
52:10
you could have Tommy do the voiceover with
52:12
us. We don't care. Let's get this thing
52:14
going. Go to the email, go to the
52:16
website, email us, say, hey guys, here's our
52:18
lawyers, get your lawyer on the phone. We'll
52:20
make a long-term contract. We'll be happy to
52:23
have Qatar Airlines. We won't even talk about
52:25
anything but Qatar Airlines. We'll be telling, in
52:28
fact, you could give us three free seats,
52:30
six, whatever you want. We'll come to Qatar
52:33
to the Doha conference when you have those
52:35
GCC committee meetings. We'll get to meet BB
52:38
when he's there, we'll get to meet Trump
52:40
when he's there, we'll get to meet Jared
52:41
as he signs the hotel deals. We could
52:44
meet all the money, we could meet the
52:45
big money players. We could have a live
52:47
show right from Doha. So listen, if you're
52:49
listening, Qatar, make sure you contact us. That
52:52
was my portion of the commercial, Tom.
52:56
You and Tom can be the overseas crew
52:58
for uh I know you don't want you
53:01
don't want to flood more than an hour.
53:03
This kid ain't going nowhere.
53:07
You can't go out.
53:09
Tommy knows this
53:11
doctor, Mike. Yeah, you'll you'll be in a
53:13
freaking you'll be in a Czech prison cell,
53:15
man. You definitely gotta watch it, man.
53:19
They'll they'll be parachuting Mike right over the
53:22
EU somewhere. Yeah, let's drop them off in
53:25
Serbia.
53:27
Yeah.
53:29
No, but I mean
53:31
Marker from Toproia will have you. Yeah.
53:35
No, but Tommy, you go anywhere. I'm not
53:37
gonna go to them. Listen, anywhere you go
53:41
around the globe, the guys are number one.
53:43
So why not go first class? I don't
53:45
want United Airlines. We're not even thinking about
53:47
you. Spirit Airlines, you're done already. Jet Blue,
53:50
forget it. You lost your whatever you had.
53:53
Okay. Jet Blue now, when they fly, there's
53:55
always an engine problem. You gotta wait. I
53:57
did two jet blues recently. I think it
54:00
was 25 and 25. Uh no,
54:03
not jet blue. It was southwest. I'm sorry,
54:05
southwest. Two times. The
54:09
the flight was postponed for maintenance. I'm like,
54:11
okay, I'm done. I'm staying overnight. I'll wait
54:14
till tomorrow. I don't want one of these
54:16
patch ups. You know, here we come. It'll
54:17
only be three hours later. You'll be going,
54:19
no, no, no. Sorry, I'll take the hotel.
54:20
I'll go back tomorrow. You know, what is
54:22
it? Like, two times I I took Southwest
54:25
and they had maintenance problems. Has anybody got
54:27
ranches over there? You know, it's just you
54:29
don't want to deal with these, and it's
54:31
terrible service anyway. I mean, what are they
54:33
going to give you? There's no service. You
54:35
know, it's just we're right now we got
54:37
to wait.
54:42
Let me tell you something. I'll take one
54:44
of those four-wheel cameras.
54:47
Those four-wheel camels, the cheapest one out there
54:50
is probably 150 grand. You know, you see
54:53
McLaren, Tommy, you see McLaren's out there like
54:55
you see uh uh Toyota Prius is in
54:59
America. They're all over, you know. Well,
55:02
if they keep around with Iran, they're gonna
55:05
be back on camels if they don't watch
55:07
it. Well, I don't think Qatar got their
55:08
ass whipped, did they? Did Qatar get their
55:10
ass whipped so far? Not really. I don't
55:13
think they're hitting hard there. I think the
55:15
UAE they took them out, Bahrain. They I
55:18
don't think they did major. Oh, yeah, they
55:20
did some of the LNG, I think the
55:21
LNG tanks. That's gonna be a while to
55:23
get anybody who helps us is on their
55:27
list. Yep. Anybody helps us.
55:31
Well they were doing good. They were doing
55:33
good, Tom. They would they were flipping oil,
55:35
even though it was sanctioned. They were doing
55:37
their thing with Oman, they were doing their
55:39
thing with the uh Middle East. You know,
55:40
everybody looked the other way. Trump knew that.
55:43
He knew that since he was around the
55:45
first time and the second time, right? They
55:47
were doing the oil. You cannot be in
55:50
that region
55:52
under sanctions and not make money. And if
55:54
you think for one minute, these these people
55:56
that have been around, Mike, how many years?
55:58
4,000 years?
56:01
Mike?
56:03
Is Mike with us? He left. Tom, are
56:05
you there? I'm here. Okay, how
56:09
many years have the Iranians been around? 4,000
56:11
years? Supposedly 5,000. 5,000
56:15
years. You think they didn't know how to
56:16
trade with those guys? And everybody looked the
56:19
other way? Because when you're talking billions of
56:21
dollars,
56:23
you're gonna make money. They're neighbors. All
56:26
of that sanction stuff was bullshit. You know
56:29
what I mean? But then, you know, we
56:31
got this thing about well, we want to
56:33
be sitting there. They've been under they've been
56:35
under sanctions from us for 47 years, so
56:38
yeah, so how they've obviously adapted. You know,
56:41
there's a thing about sanctions is you know,
56:43
okay, maybe they hurt the regular people
56:46
and they might kind of throw the government
56:49
and the business off for a while. But
56:51
after 47 years, you build alternative structures
56:55
and they don't have any real effect, they
56:57
don't have the effect that you want to
56:59
have anymore. Right. So all we did was
57:02
harden them. What we did was we hardened
57:04
them and we basically forced them to prep
57:08
so that when we did eventually come for
57:10
them, they would have all these redundancies and
57:13
alternative trade routes, and everything is all kind
57:16
of already been established. It's like they're not
57:18
surprised, they're not shocked, they're not caught off
57:21
guard. So they're traders, it's in their blood,
57:24
they're traders. China, China supported them, Russia supported
57:27
them, Turkey supported them, everybody supported them, and
57:30
they have the right to. We can't tell
57:31
other people what to do, you know. Michael
57:34
is Dr. Michael Scheuer back with us yet? I
57:37
think he went out for a coffee. He's
57:39
probably getting a Yemenese coffee, by the way.
57:41
I hope he's not ordering by DoorDash, it'll
57:43
take a few hours.
57:46
But if you're in the area, Tom, that's
57:48
the place to go and have the coffee.
57:50
And look, you would think by now, although
57:52
you know Trump's personality, but you would think
57:54
by now he'd be calling everybody on the
57:56
table and in the room and saying, why
57:58
did this happen or that happened? You know,
58:01
he doesn't care, it doesn't matter to him,
58:03
you know. I don't think he's all there.
58:05
No, Mike, I don't think he's all there
58:07
anymore. There's something wrong with him. He's going
58:10
senile, and you know how people go senile
58:13
in different ways. Some people get like all
58:16
foggy and and and kind of confused.
58:19
So the other people go senile angry, and
58:23
I think he's an angry senile. So he's
58:25
angry all the time. Yeah, yeah, they get
58:27
bitchy, yeah. They get bit, they're very irritated,
58:30
they're very irritated, yeah. You know, it's
58:33
like when you see these young people. When
58:36
I say young, you know, children of parents
58:38
that are going through dementia, you know, they
58:40
they get angry when they're feeding them and
58:42
they're fighting with them, and they don't mean
58:44
it because they don't know it, right? And
58:46
I think he he knows he's not, he
58:49
probably knows he's not what he was, and
58:51
it's bitching him. You know what I'm saying?
58:53
I mean, when he gets just think about
58:55
this, the president of the United States, supposedly
58:57
the leader of the free world, he couldn't
59:00
comes out and he goes, I want to
59:01
annihilate those bastards, you know. I'm gonna knock,
59:03
I'm gonna take them to like what kind
59:05
of talk is that? What kind of talk
59:08
is that? You know, I'll annihilate them.
59:11
Who are you to take away a you
59:13
know, civilization? Who parties you got? You
59:16
know, and and and uh uh were you
59:18
did you get like a vision during the
59:20
night? You know, I mean
59:23
we've been fighting their wars, Tommy, too many
59:26
years since 19 what 50s and 60s? You
59:29
know, wake up and smell the roses, man,
59:31
it's bankrupt us, you know. Yeah, it's well
59:34
that's a thing now. Now there's really no
59:37
for him, there's no turning back. He's look
59:40
who he's surrounded by. I mean, BB's girl
59:43
is his chief of staff, his right house
59:45
chief of staff. So it's like he's he
59:48
can't break out of what he's into, and
59:51
he's too senile to do it if he
59:53
could. You know, in other words, there's no
59:55
one that can reach him. Look who he's
59:57
surrounded by. Nutcases like Hegsteath, uh
1:00:00
Susie Wiles, Marco Rubio,
1:00:04
and you know, and JD is compromised too,
1:00:06
and I don't think Trump listens to him
1:00:09
because if you don't tell him what he
1:00:10
wants to hear, he won't listen to you
1:00:12
anyway. So it's like he's surrounded by
1:00:15
idiots, he can't break out, he's too senile
1:00:19
to break out. That's why I don't like
1:00:21
where this is headed, and and you know,
1:00:24
and I don't like the whole situation because
1:00:26
people should be protesting this, but they're yes.
1:00:30
Tommy, you're uh this is the one thing
1:00:33
we don't have anymore since the 70s or
1:00:36
80s. There's no protest, 60s. There's no now.
1:00:38
Let me tell you something. The Democrats think
1:00:40
they can win and they want to win,
1:00:41
right? They were the biggest protesters back in
1:00:44
the day. Remember the Vietnam War? Oh gosh,
1:00:47
they were just like they they were everywhere.
1:00:49
But you know what? We had bigger protests
1:00:51
for George Floyd and Antifa and Black
1:00:54
Lives Matter than we do for a war
1:00:56
that we're having, which is draining us. We
1:00:58
have no business in. It wasn't it, it's
1:01:01
not even a war that was approved by
1:01:03
Congress. You know, it's one of these, you
1:01:06
know, it's a conflict, it's okay. And the
1:01:08
bottom line, we have to go back to
1:01:09
it again and again and again. This war
1:01:11
has started because nobody wanted to open those
1:01:13
Epstein files. How many of whatever pages
1:01:17
there were, 24,000, 240,000, right?
1:01:20
This Epstein thing, uh, because, and you know,
1:01:23
listen, Iran is laughing, Russia's laughing, they're
1:01:26
all laughing because they know they have
1:01:30
the copy. I'm sure they have the copy
1:01:32
of who's in the files. If they don't,
1:01:34
if they got bad, uh they got
1:01:37
bad spies, let's put it that way. Okay,
1:01:39
they know who's in there.
1:01:42
Well, I mean, they know that what
1:01:45
we're doing is accelerating our
1:01:48
fall from grace. Basically, we're we're
1:01:51
accelerating our loss of of standing in the
1:01:54
world by the actions that we're taking. If
1:01:56
we didn't do this, we would still be
1:01:58
headed down. But by him doing this, by
1:02:01
him, you know, and then use the tariffs
1:02:03
as all part of it too, you know,
1:02:05
because once you start saying, I'm gonna tariff
1:02:07
everybody, well, and then you're gonna take Russia's
1:02:10
foreign exchange reserves, and then you're gonna what
1:02:13
seize them and give them to Ukraine. And
1:02:16
basically, all this is doing is telling the
1:02:18
rest of the world, look, this dollar system,
1:02:21
we can use it against you anytime we
1:02:23
want. Exactly. And nobody wants to be involved.
1:02:27
That's right. Well, that's the message that you're
1:02:29
sending is you better make other plans because
1:02:32
look, you stay in this system. One day
1:02:35
you it's gonna be you that we're after,
1:02:38
one day it's gonna be your reserves we're
1:02:40
gonna take. One day we're gonna target you.
1:02:43
And if you're using the dollar, then that
1:02:46
gives us leverage on you. So basically, that's
1:02:49
where it's all headed, is is to get
1:02:51
out of that system. And what's what's coming
1:02:54
from that, and this might be something for
1:02:57
the listeners to ponder. What's coming is there's
1:03:00
a whole lot about 30 trillion dollars
1:03:03
that's outside this country. Now, other countries aren't
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in that situation. There aren't 30 trillion
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dollars value of Russian currency outside of
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Russia, there aren't 30 trillion dollars worth of
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Chinese currency outside of China. We're the only
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ones in that situation. So the problem
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is when you decide you want to divest
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yourself, you're an outside uh foreign holder of
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dollars. When you decide you want to divest
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yourself of dollars, there's only one place those
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dollars can go and be spent, and that's
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here. So that's the thing that we
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are um not really looking uh ahead
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to, which we should be, is when these
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dollars come flooding home, then we're gonna see
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all the inflation that we've been exporting to
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other countries for 50, 60, 70 years.
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We're gonna see all that inflation all
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come home. And we think we've seen inflation
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now, which we ain't seen nothing yet.
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Oh, God forgive us. Hey, listen, Tom, thank
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you. Um I don't know where Mike is.
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Mike probably has to jump on the line.
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But anyway, I want to thank you, Tommy
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DeSaplo, for coming back and joining us on
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two mics. It's always a pleasure. Always, always
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a great honor and a pleasure. Thank you
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guys.