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Miami/Ole Miss thoughts, Iowa State battles back vs. Baylor, Bama Bob on the CFP & Hawkeye talk with David Eickholt · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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want to say a football Thursday because this starts off just a
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glorious 5 days of football, but we'll wait for that tomorrow.
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Won't wait for football much longer. 7:00 tonight ball is in
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the air. We will get into that.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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Trent, Condon, Kendall or Miller and Condon with you until 2:00.
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Bama Bob will kick things off at 12:25.
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We will preview the game with Bama Bob that's coming up here
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in 25 minutes that after that David Icult.
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We never really had a chance to respond much.
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Just as we were going off the air, Keon Entreger entered the
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portal. It was very late in the show,
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was it not TC? It was and.
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And yesterday we had everything lined up and couldn't really
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pivot from that. So we'll do that today with
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David Icult. He will join us coming up here
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at 12:45. Of course, we'll do some hoops
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in there as well. At one O clock.
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We're going to talk to Dave Sinek and he covers the Packers
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So we've talked a lot of Bears Packers this week.
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those our picks coming up today as well as we want to get
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tonight's game in there as we go head to head with the boys in
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the afternoon off the bench with Lucas and Sean.
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Iowa State wins on the road last night.
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Min Iowa Iowa State ladies lose on the road last night to
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Cincinnati quad four loss that that's not a good loss and we'll
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see what that one does in the grand scheme of things.
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But how are you today? I'm doing well.
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How about yourself? Good.
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Excited for tonight, excited for this football game.
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Now tonight we get Fowler and Herb St. and then I think
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tomorrow Do I have this right? Tomorrow, McDonough.
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Not positive, I hadn't looked at the assignments.
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I think so because I think because of the fact Indiana,
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Herb St. and Fowler had Indiana at the Rose Bowl, I think that
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they've switched that around. I believe we had Fowler and Herb
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St. tonight. Well, whoever we're going to
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watch regardless. Just calling the game that's
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coming up to you here tonight. Number really hasn't moved.
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It's about 3 for the most part. We shall see where it goes, but
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I can't wait. I can't wait.
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We're down to 3 college football games left in the year and I
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hope that the each and every one of them has us on the edge of
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our seat. Whoever we're rooting for or
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have a betting interest in, that's obviously the goal, is to
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have these things absolutely spine tingling.
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I'm all for it. Absolutely.
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When we look at the game tonight, I know we'll talk more
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with Bama Bob about the match up, but I've been just waiting
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for it all to kind of collapse with Ole Miss with these coaches
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going back and forth. But another component that I
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think is going to be perhaps important, the way they've been
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able to cobble this together. Well, game one we know is
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against Tulane, team that they already played, team they
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already game plan for, team they're also a lot better than
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and we saw that play out. We sure did.
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Then in the quarterfinals they get Georgia A-Team.
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They played a team that they've already game plan for, a team
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they've already matched up with and all the assistant coaches,
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everything that goes into it. It's not easy to play Georgia, I
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get that, but you knew what you were going to do.
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Right. For the most part, yeah.
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Because you saw them. This is going to be different.
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And now the portal is open. Portal wasn't open at that time.
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Portal is open now. And hearing about these
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assistant coaches that are flying from Baton Rouge and
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they're back to Oxford and back and forth and back and forth.
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And we do our day job with the kids in the practice during the
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day. And then at night we're
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recruiting. And I got to go to Baton Rouge
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because we got this kid coming to campus.
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I think it's going to be too much.
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I think tonight is going to show.
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So you're leading Miami? I'm not just leaning.
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I think they win this one pretty comfortable.
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I do too. Coupled with that defensive line
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who is absolutely tremendous elite.
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I don't like Carson Becker's, you know.
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No, you don't. I don't think it's going to
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matter though. I just think that not that it's
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all going to fall apart, but it's you're going to see some of
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those. The fractures are going to look
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real tonight and you're going to see there's one thing against
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Georgia, certainly against Tulane, but tonight reality is
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going to set it. I'm with you, and I'm kind of
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rooting for Ole Miss because of their story.
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And I like Chambliss and our buddy Troy, who listens to all
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of the shows on KX and O and the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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We're grateful for that. And he sends us a bunch of stuff
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via Twitter and he sent a piece last night on Chamblisson's
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background and his upbringing in his fair state, etcetera.
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And it was really well done and I'm glad I watched it.
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We both LED Lacy fans. I mean, this guy is
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unbelievable. And getting him back as they've
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done has been a huge improvement.
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But Trent, for those reasons you just laid out and the defence of
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of Miami, I see this, I see this is somewhat of a low scoring
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football game. What is the total in this game?
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Is it in the 40s? I would I would be surprised if
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it's above 45. What if?
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What do they have it at? See 50.
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Two and. 1/2 I'm leaning under I.
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Think you're in the right spot? I'm on the, I would be on the
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under in this game because Miami slows down the game and they're
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going to want to do that again. And I, I lean Miami and there's,
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it opened at 2:00, there's there's threes in the market,
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there's a couple of 3 1/2's. I don't think it's going to fall
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to that 2 1/2, which I keep crossing my fingers and hope
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that it does, but nothing about the game just for our purposes
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here, head to head and then with the boys in the afternoon.
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But I'm on Miami as well. I'm on Miami.
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So we're going to have for the same play likely coming out.
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Here, I think so. I mean, I don't think anything's
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going to change my mind in the next hour and 50 minutes.
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I really don't. And then tomorrow with Indiana
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and Oregon, another rematch and it's just Indiana, you know that
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that can they really keep doing this at this level?
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They just continue, I guess Mark Cuban wrote a big check.
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Did you see that? Oh, that's.
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Happened two years ago, I happened again last year and
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then he did it again this year. They wrote another one and it's
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and it's paying. Off why is Indiana so good yeah,
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give a lot of credit to. Why is the SEC so bad?
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Because everybody's on. Everybody's running the same
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race. Oh, absolutely.
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You know I mean. That would That wasn't the case.
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There were those backroom handshakes.
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They weren't just a figment of imaginations or the bag outside
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the back store, the paper bag that was real.
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That was real. That was real.
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Then there's a reason that there were court cases with Alabama
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and Tennessee and and all these different places that you didn't
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see at the same level in the Big 12.
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In the Big 10, it was different. And now even playing field,
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you're seeing what's happening. Yeah, you have.
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Because Alabama and all the advantages they had with Nick
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Saban, who is a great coach, maybe the greatest coach we've
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ever seen, they also had other. Advantages.
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They had a pretty good booster alumni base in there.
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So yeah, I, I I don't know where I'm going yet.
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I don't know where I'm going as far as tomorrow.
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Yeah. Yeah, I watched Indiana,
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obviously just dismantle Alabama.
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Alabama sucked. That's it, right?
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That was a bad football team. I'm that should not have been in
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playoff. Team I'm well, I don't know
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about that. No, they should have.
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Been who you can put in Notre Dame.
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OK, then I'm I agree with you, but regardless, they were in and
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I agree with your part wholeheartedly that they're not
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a good football team. They came to the pocket and they
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and Tysons has been awful. Yes, and see he's going to the
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pros. He he declared for the NFL
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yesterday. Good luck.
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He can still declare. He can also still be in the
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portal. Well, that's true too.
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He. Could he might be getting his
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mail in South Beach Coral Gables?
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If that's what you're thinking, that's.
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What the buzz is out there that that is a potential destination
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for Tyson? Interesting.
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Get out of the SEC, don't have to worry about that kind of
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angle of it. You know, Miami, they'll be
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looking for a quarterback again and those one year rentals these
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last couple years worked out pretty well.
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No, they did. Interesting.
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Didn't see that aspect of it, but I did see declared for the
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NFLI. If I had to pick today and I'm
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not, I have a, I'm not going to use this as as our part of our
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picks because kind of lean Oregon.
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Yeah, that's kind of lean. Oregon.
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That's where I am too. And that 3 1/2 number, I like
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that part of it too. Now it's Dan Laning and they'll
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probably be two point conversions in there for no
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reason, things like that. But that aside, and I could just
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be dead wrong again, or maybe this is just me digging in my
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heels. The Indiana part of it, Oregon
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getting that second shot, though, just this is not going
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to surprise them. We saw Georgia, L Ole Miss, I
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think that is going to be a help, certainly for Oregon.
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Even though they got him in Austin, they know this is not
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going to be a pushover. This is not the name brand that
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we're used to with Indiana football.
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I think Oregon's going to be ready and I give the advantage
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to. I think overall that offensive
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line hasn't been as good. I do have concerns about that
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running game and all the running packs that they're losing.
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I mean that is. Big.
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Fair, big concern and if they get banged up there, what do
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they have now? It's working.
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They probably got some dudes still right, but you're going
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pretty far down the. Reason those dudes aren't seeing
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the playing field. I mean you're looking what would
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been coming into the year their 5th running back.
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You know, that's wasn't isn't that where it got eventually to
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at USC wasn't like King Miller way down the the depth chart to
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begin. I think he was anyways, let's
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let's let's go to last night and let's go to Waco because this
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this came if especially though, I have no idea how I stake out
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of the 1st 20 minutes with the lead.
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No, absolutely, other than the fact they play their ass on on
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defense. But it seemed like Baylor was
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always It's like the floor was tilted. 2524 and I felt like
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when the halftime buzzer went off, I had to look at the score
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bug like 3 different times like that.
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That can't be right. It's not winning this
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basketball. Game.
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It felt like it should have been 3525.
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It should have been yes, but but to there I was stage credit.
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They play their tails off and then here comes Lipsy in the
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2nd. 26 minutes, 24 points. That's not a bad night.
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Not at all. 24 points and 26 minutes on a night where Malin
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Monchilovich scored his first basket with I think a minute and
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a half gone in the first. In the second-half, he was.
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He was blanked in the 1st 20 minutes.
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Blake Buchanan did not score all night long.
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Plita didn't see score. I did score.
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I make one bucket. Bateman, who made some big
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shots. He was blank last night, but it
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was Lipsy. And maybe it's just as I was
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going to say more importantly, but that's not fair to Lipsy
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because he's so good. But Joshua Jefferson night in
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and night out, I don't know where he ranks.
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I should have looked at the betting markets as far as player
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of the year because it seems like it's Boozers award.
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But Joshua Jefferson's price has to be getting shorter and
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shorter because the more you watch this Iowa State team, and
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if they continue to reside in the rarefied air that they
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currently reside in is what the number three team in the
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country? More people are going to watch
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this Iowa State team and see #5 and see the impact that
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Jefferson has on this team coming off the triple double.
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He is so damn good. If they didn't have him during
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the first half, they. Were down 10, they would have
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been, yes. And in that early stretch he had
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like 2 buckets of great assists. They run everything through
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bushel. Rebounds.
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Top of the key. All right, give it to Jefferson
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and we'll go from there. I mean, this is not just what
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you're used to traditionally with the point guard and the
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five positions. He is in the old school point,
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point forward. You know, he used to hear that
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term a lot more. You did.
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And this is the reality of the way that they play.
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Speaking of that market, the player of the year market.
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It's got to be boozer short price.
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I'm going to bring it up here. Awards.
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Let's go over to awards for the Wooden Award, which I am a voter
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for, as you are for the Heisman. We got both covered in college
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basketball. The guy we talked about the
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other day actually helped me out with that.
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Keith Murphy. Oh, did he?
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Yeah. He was the one that sent along
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by name for that. Thanks to Keith for that.
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And. You should because you watch
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his. Well, you bet on him.
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That's true, but I don't bet in this market.
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You also taught me that one. I decided to stay away.
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Good. I'm glad.
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Camera Boozer is the favorite -190 he's a Duke guy.
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He's really good. Yep.
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Get it? Yep.
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Agent Banstra, he's second. +23 Yu Yep.
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And there's Joshua Jefferson. He's the third choice.
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He's the third choice. How about that?
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Is he above double digits? 9:00 to 1:00.
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This is that DraftKings? Yeah, he is the head of Braden
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Smith. Wow.
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I had to Landenborg at Michigan. Who's 35 to 1?
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Where's Toppin? He's 60 to one now.
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It's the 8th betting choice. I know they got a couple of L's
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on that resume. The 8th betting choice is 60 to
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1. 60 to 1. Holy mackerel.
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What if Darren Peterson, we didn't get to talk about this
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yesterday? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You you thought he was done for the year.
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Well, I just thought he was going to take, you know, pulling
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Michael Porter with Mizzou. And there were a couple of
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Kansas fans, I think, that had the same thought process you
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did, right? And then he hits his.
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What's his price, Trent? Because there's a no.
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I can bet this mark. 75 to 1. Is he really?
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75 to 1. See, I I think he might be
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throwing your money away because I just.
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Unless Boozer gets hurt. Right.
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Right. And you don't want that.
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Even if you bet in this market, you don't want that.
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You don't want to make a bet and hope for a guy to get a snap on
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an ACL or whatever. You don't want that.
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But boy, that's a huge he's 75 to 1.
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David Lipsey, also in the top 15.
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He's 100 to one. You're looking for a long shot.
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Where's Sturtz? Is Sturtz listed?
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He was before the season. He is no longer.
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He is on there still. Yes, he is the 20th betting
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choice at 120 to. 120 to. One, how about Tucker Devries
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250 to one take a real deep shot. 1 deep shot.
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I wouldn't mind which one Graham Ek out of Gonzaga because
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they're Gonzaga and they're probably going to be 31 and 2 by
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the time Selection Sunday comes around.
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Ek is their best player. 90 to one for him but fun market.
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Joshua Jefferson, the third betting choices.
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And I mentioned the other day, it might have been yesterday.
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You know, Ken Pomeroy, his the way that his efficiency numbers
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put it, he's the second choice in his numbers that he has now.
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I think it's a pretty big gap between 1:00 and 2:00.
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But regardless, I think there's probably plenty of voters that
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are looking at that. I mean Ken Pomeroy think of.
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Oh God, he's a guy. How much that has changed over
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the last 15? Years No, you're right.
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He mean he's a guy that's got he's got a lot of respect behind
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his name to that end, was it the Iowa State game last night or
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was it one of the IT must have been the Iowa State game.
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Ken Palm actually has an official tab on there as as to
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who's doing the yes and and do they rate?
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Them they do. I don't know how those ratings
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come into being, but yes. Because it was King McClure.
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I'm not sure who did the play by play of the game last night.
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I don't know why King McClure takes as many errors as he does.
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I don't mind him. Yeah, he's fine.
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I think he's fine. You got.
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So what did they do? How did they do?
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They rank them as to good crew, bad crew.
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Well, it has each official ranked individually and Marcus
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Petticrew is right fifth by the Kenpon metric.
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In all of the officials in college basketball.
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Tony Padilla is 6th and Doug Sermons is 11th.
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So I've stayed a pretty good. Crew, that's a good.
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Crew. That's a really good crew.
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Yes, because how far down does it?
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Go Well it does. You have to click on the box
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score and then it has each Oh I see, let let me click on pull.
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Up the Drake game, I think the Drake game was poorly
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officiated. I didn't see enough to form an
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opinion on that. Yes, I mean, from an official
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perspective, other than the fact that that times have changed on
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Forest Ave., but we'll be kind and put it that way.
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All right, let's go to the Drake game.
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Open up the box score for the Doggies getting absolutely
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throttled by Bradley. The only thing I got right
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yesterday was that, and oh, that was an ugly performance.
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Only two guys, in fact, were listed here.
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Do they only have two? You know what?
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I wasn't counting, Trent. I, I I don't know.
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Randy McCall, who I know the name, he's 36 in Irvin Wilson,
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127th. All right, Irv, you've got some
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work to. Do but you can click on then
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each of these and this is the thing that I every once in a
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while will fall into the trap of.
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I've seen the sheer volume of games like.
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How many games they've done so far I.
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Just saw this guy the other night.
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I just because last night I think during that same
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discussion, one of them had done 50 games.
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Really. Can you go back to last night's
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crew and see how? Yeah, it's it was Tony Padilla.
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He has done 50 games, 50. That was his 50th game last
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night. This is what he he's done talk.
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Show host, pay attention this not to me to what you're
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hearing. Is over the past week dating
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back to last Tuesday? Yeah.
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Tony Padilla. What was he?
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Cal Berkeley as Cal hosted Louisville Tell.
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Don't tell me he flew to the East Coast for the next.
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Night. Nope.
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Two nights later, just drove up to UC Davis.
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OK. But took his time.
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It's not like he had a game the next night.
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Then two days later, he was in Orlando.
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Went from. That's not a drive.
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Davis, CA to Orlando, did the UCF Kansas game in Orlando, then
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came back the next day to Des Moines where he was here for the
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Drake Indiana State game. Two days later he was in
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Morgantown and then a day later he's in Waco.
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You if you're if you're an official with any kind of cachet
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behind your name, you basically are, you know, kissing the
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family goodbye in November and see in April.
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Yeah, right. Absolutely.
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Very few. And and you told was it I think
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you say you came up with a number last year of a a ballpark
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number with these guys make per game.
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Was it you that was telling me that?
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Yes, I remember us bringing that up and.
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I mean, you got to make it while you can, right?
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It's not like it's a never ending season.
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You've got essentially 5 months at best.
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Let's see here a couple of grand a game.
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Is that crazy Yeah. 1000 to 3000 for a game.
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So yeah, probably when you're doing up, say, a major so.
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That night, that crew last night was probably on the high end of
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the scale. Would you say that?
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Probably all told around 10 grand right between the three of
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them. Might anticipate, you know,
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something like that. Maybe 75?
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Good night's work for getting booed.
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Yes, right for two hours. For getting yelled at by
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coaches. You can handle that, right?
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That kind of cash. And get on the plane or in a
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little car and and off to the next site.
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I had a buddy that tried really hard to make it to this level to
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make it and he did a bunch of D2 games.
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It was he was working in at Iowa.
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He was the runs in our minerals at the University of Iowa and
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then he's now at Michigan, but tried in D2 and kind of hit that
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level. But here's another thing, you
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know, he was in his late 20s and was making some pretty good
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rounds moving up in a possibility start have kids
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yeah. And you look at it and what we
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just said, they go kids in athletics, kids that play
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basketball, if you like basketball that much if.
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Basketball family, you're probably.
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You're giving up a lot. No, I agree.
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Do you know? I mean, I know they're assigned
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to these things, but are they are they on the hook for their
18:48
own travel, their own expenses? So that 25190 you're an
18:52
independent contractor, so you've got to pay your, I mean,
18:55
you write it off, but still. So you got to have somebody
18:58
working with you as as to, you know, get your travel all set up
19:01
in your hotels. And anyways, cool, I didn't know
19:03
that. Some good stuff.
19:05
We mentioned Drake Ugly. Yeah, and and you and I.
19:09
You and I was in it at the half. I don't know how because when I
19:11
turned it on, they were getting their you know what's kicked and
19:13
they cut it to like. They couldn't get a stop.
19:16
Belmont made a three at the end of the first half to extend the
19:20
lead to three or to whatever. And then the second-half it was,
19:23
I mean, I would, I just spent a lot of time there because I was
19:25
stated started in the second-half.
19:26
It felt like every time I flipped over it was just another
19:29
shot and another. Shot So are they the team to
19:31
beat in the Valley? Belmont's tough for me because
19:36
there's nights like that where they look like the team can make
19:38
a Sweet 16. When you shoot like that on the
19:41
road against a good defensive team like you and I, that's the
19:43
team you get excited about. But the other part Smiley shoot
19:46
like that. Every night.
19:47
What's his name? Yeah, Jack Smiley, John Smile.
19:49
Whatever. Smiley's his last name he
19:51
couldn't miss. And remember, Belmont had come
19:53
in and they had just lost a couple of games.
19:54
They lost to Southern Illinois at home.
19:57
Southern Illinois is not very good.
19:59
Lost to the Indiana State team that just lost to Drake.
20:02
No, I don't think that they're the favorite.
20:04
I I love the way they play. They're fun to watch because of
20:08
they can actually get out there. One of the few teams that
20:09
actually plays with at least a little bit of place in the NVC
20:12
because that is certainly not the case in the Missouri Valley.
20:16
The Murray State team is the most confounding to me.
20:18
I, I got to see more out of this.
20:19
I haven't seen them yet. As we saw last night, Illinois
20:22
State, they lose at Valpo after we were just talking about
20:26
Illinois State, Murray State's the only undefeated team left.
20:29
They have not played at Gauntlet by any means, still at Six and
20:32
OB, Drake, Valpo, SIU, Illinois, Chicago, Bradley that was at
20:37
home and Evansville. So they haven't exactly gone
20:40
through a gauntlet yet, but they Murray State with Ryan Miller is
20:45
their coach in his first year. How do you put that together in
20:48
today's day and age? That's eye opening.
20:50
We'll take the time out, we'll come back, We'll get into
20:52
tonight's game. We're not going to touch
20:54
tomorrow's game. Bama's going to join us tomorrow
20:56
as well. But Bama, Bob, Trent and I will
20:57
talk more about this game tonight.
20:59
How do we see it playing out? We'll do that on the other side.
21:02
Still to come this hour, David Eicholt on the Hawks.
21:05
Hour number two, Dave Sinican covers the Packers.
21:08
We'll get his perspective on Packers and Bears.
21:11
And then Dalton Wasserman from PO Football, focus.com, Miller
21:14
and Condon. Glad you're with us on a
21:16
Thursday. What have you got?
21:17
Got this from one of our listeners.
21:19
Mike Padilla's full time job is a bail bondsman.
21:22
Really. How about that combo?
21:26
He's a bail bond. So.
21:28
So he's the guy that like, what was the name of the show that I
21:31
No, I didn't. I used to watch it, but it was
21:32
on dog. Yeah.
21:35
The guy with the hair. Yes.
21:36
Yes. Is he still alive?
21:37
No. His wife died.
21:38
That's what it was. OK.
21:39
Yeah, his wife passed away. Bleach blonde hair.
21:42
Bleach. Blonde hair?
21:43
Yes, Dog the Bounty Hunter. And Padilla and the bail
21:47
bondsman as well. That's wild.
21:49
Miller and Condon, glad you're with us, talking sports with
21:52
you. And we'll do so until 2 on the
21:54
Iowa Sports Radio Network 1230.
22:09
Straight up. Miller and Condon, welcome back.
22:11
Iowa Sports Radio Network with you until two o'clock. 15
22:15
minutes from now, David Icolt will join us.
22:18
Catch up with David on the latest on Iowa.
22:21
But right now, you know what the music means.
22:22
Time to talk to our buddy Bama Bob.
22:26
And we'll do so only four more times.
22:29
Hi buddy. How are you, Bama?
22:31
I'm doing good, Yeah, a few and far between now, aren't they?
22:35
Yeah, they really are. But we've got let's make the
22:38
best of these ones here tonight. Old miss in Miami and and away
22:42
we go. We'll save tomorrow for
22:43
tomorrow. You'll join us at the same time
22:45
tomorrow, 12:30 to talk about the the Big 10 tilt.
22:49
But we've got a Miami team and their defense and an old mess
22:52
team and their offense colliding tonight night.
22:55
And I just see it as a low scoring game.
22:59
Trent and I were talking about this earlier.
23:01
Not the number the the over under is 52.
23:04
That would surprise me if it goes under.
23:06
It's certainly been wrong most of the seasons.
23:08
I want to put that out there to begin with.
23:10
But is this a, you know, a 2720 type of game?
23:14
How do you see the how do you see this scoring thing up?
23:18
Bama give me kind of an idea. It's really fascinating.
23:23
You know, Miami is you really look at the games they played,
23:27
they really haven't scored a lot of points, right?
23:29
I mean, it wasn't the ugly game they had against A&M in the
23:31
first, by the way. I mean, think about this guys.
23:35
We were really getting ready for Georgia, Ohio State in this
23:39
round, right? And I'm not saying that we're
23:41
all disappointed because I'm not.
23:44
I think it's got a chance to be a good game.
23:46
I wonder how much the ratings and the prices and all that
23:48
might hurt because this this was a monster matchup when you
23:51
looked at the bracket right in the semis.
23:54
But but here we are. No, this one.
23:55
I don't know, to be honest with you.
23:57
I know that's not a, you know, great insider what you want to
23:58
hear, but you know, Miami is is they're not a dynamic offense
24:03
and and but Ole Miss and again, doesn't have a great defense.
24:06
I think it's better under under Golding than it was under Kiffin
24:11
Golding is, even though he was the defensive coordinator and I
24:14
don't I don't. Maybe that's just happenstance
24:16
or or luck or maybe it is something that that he's allowed
24:20
to do more now and take, you know, fewer risks or whatever on
24:23
defense. I think this game gets into the
24:27
20s. I don't know about the well, you
24:30
said 52. I mean, that's, I mean, that's a
24:33
real, I think it's a really good line because, you know, I could
24:36
see, you know what 202724 gets. You 51 gets you right there, I
24:43
mean. And that's a pretty high scoring
24:45
game. I don't know that both teams, I
24:47
don't think it's going to be a runaway.
24:49
I think Ole Miss is on a mission, but then again, at some
24:53
point they listen. They've never faced a defense
24:57
even in the in the defensive heavy SEC that I don't think
25:00
they've faced anything like what they're going to see tonight.
25:02
And we've talked about it, Ruben Bain and that defensive line is
25:06
just they're unbelievable. That's an NFL front that they're
25:09
going to be seeing tonight. They're going to see, you know,
25:11
they got line, but they got they have they have dudes of all
25:14
three levels on defense. Really the question to me is can
25:18
shambles make those plays that he made against Georgia?
25:22
And I don't know that you can repeat that.
25:23
I mean, those were just all time quarterback scrambles and and
25:28
you know, Johnny Manziel mixed with Patrick Mahomes really is
25:31
what those what those plays were.
25:33
And can you repeat that? I don't the odds tell you, you
25:36
know, logic tells you no, but then you see him do it and why
25:39
not? You know, I think it's maybe a
25:42
little lower scoring than what we think it I just, I don't
25:48
think either team is going to go up and down the field.
25:50
Carson back to me as always. This is the wild card in this
25:53
game. And we, I've said it before,
25:55
I'll say it again. You know, he doesn't have to do
25:58
a lot. He can throw you out of the
25:59
game. He can also win you a game.
26:03
I think I would not. If you're telling me who, which
26:06
quarterback do I want to have to have a drive in the last two and
26:09
a half, 3 minutes of the game, it would be shambles.
26:12
Although he's going up against a better defense.
26:14
So I just think it's a fascinating match up.
26:16
And again, for all the people that are upset that we didn't
26:19
get Ohio State and Georgia, which would have been a
26:21
heavyweight, he'll understand. I just think this is this is a
26:25
pretty good. I love the new blood.
26:26
Matchup I do too. I do too.
26:29
And I think it's crazy that that Ole Miss is the last, you know,
26:32
last one flying a flag for the SEC, right?
26:35
It's just I, I think you could have got a lot of money on that
26:39
at the beginning of the year. Certainly.
26:40
Hey, who's the last team? Who's the last FCC team in the
26:43
playoffs? You could have gotten pretty
26:45
good odds on Ole Miss over some others.
26:47
But I just think it's a fascinating game.
26:49
Can't wait to watch it. I do think they answer your
26:51
question long windedly. I think it is.
26:53
I think the under is in play. I do.
26:55
Bama, I have a working theory here.
26:57
I want to run this past you. I brought it up to Ken a little
26:59
bit earlier and it's Ole Miss now, round one.
27:02
Tulane team, they saw, they throttled, they throttled again.
27:05
Georgia, they're not scared of them.
27:07
Had the lead going into the fourth quarter, fell apart, but
27:09
they knew them. They game plan for them, they
27:11
scheme for them. Now with all these assistant
27:13
coaches flying back and forth between Baton Rouge and Oxford
27:15
and all we got to do here, we're putting in a game plan and now
27:18
we're recruiting for LSU. Everything that's going on, new
27:21
team, no new program, new game plan, everything that goes into
27:24
it, that finally we see what we thought maybe we're going to see
27:27
a route ago that it actually happens tonight that the
27:30
assistants being all over the place, not being able to be
27:32
fully in it shows up. Can you buy into that?
27:36
I certainly can, and I think it's.
27:37
An excellent point because you mentioned that, listen, they
27:40
were more than likely they're going to beat Tulane no matter
27:42
what. And I think that team was just
27:44
on a mission that week because that was the week that Kiffin
27:47
left, right. So I think that first game was,
27:49
you know, let's stick it to him. And I do think I think there's,
27:52
there is a lot of credence to the fact that they knew Georgia,
27:56
they'd already played them what, 5-6 weeks early, right?
27:58
He was later. Maybe it's the middle of the
28:00
season, but they, you know, they play them every year, played
28:02
them in the last couple of years, had to lead, as you said,
28:05
going into the fourth quarter for whatever reason, couldn't
28:07
hold it. I think there's something to
28:10
that. And I just don't see how and you
28:13
mentioned it. I mean, the, the amount of work
28:16
and hours and you're it, you know, the, the coaches, whether
28:18
it's a, a college staff for a playoff game or an NFL staff for
28:24
a playoff game. It just the hours and the prep
28:26
and the minute details. How can you possibly focus on
28:31
everything you needed to focus on?
28:33
Because you're right on one side you got to devise a game plan
28:36
for Miami and on this other side you're trying to recruit guys to
28:39
go to another school. I don't know how you do it.
28:41
I don't know what the breakdown has been.
28:43
I know they haven't all been the staff has not been all in the
28:47
same building, you know, since they since they walked off the
28:51
field with Georgia, they've been all over the place.
28:53
Now I would I'm hoping that maybe the last day or two,
28:56
whatever, you know, they can they can all come together and
28:59
come up with a plan And maybe it's just as much in game as
29:02
anything. But I mean, they're going to
29:03
look at that film from Miami and go, wow, you know, how are we
29:06
going to break this down? I don't know how you're going to
29:08
really run against them. I know they've got a really good
29:12
running back, but man, that again, that front is just it's
29:17
so impressive. And I think there is advantage
29:21
Miami on paper in terms of preparation and everything else
29:26
that that has gone into this. But you know, again, just I
29:31
don't know if they're on a mission or everything or however
29:33
you want to put it. And then, you know, last week
29:36
after the Georgia game was all the drama, you know, his wife's
29:38
going to be able to coach or Lane going to let him coach.
29:40
And again, just just the drama that is the vortex around
29:44
Kiffin. It just gets exhausting.
29:46
Well, even going into the game. Is he, is ESPN going to have
29:48
them as part of the broadcast? Remember, he wanted to go to the
29:51
game. Yeah, exactly.
29:52
And. And and wound up going to.
29:53
The women's basketball. Right and and walking out with.
29:55
Mulkey arm in arm? Yeah, holding hands.
29:58
Like what? That's just odd, man.
30:00
I mean, it's better. Than the fake accent that his
30:04
predecessor had. Well, that is true.
30:06
I'll give you. That I mean, Oh my gosh, that's
30:09
just that's just talk about cringe ones.
30:11
I truly was. And then.
30:12
And by the way, I think. Kiffin and Mulkey are just
30:15
probably made for one. I don't mean that any kind of
30:18
romantic thing or I'm just talking about coaching styles.
30:22
Who gives a crap? It's all about me.
30:24
Everything else, I mean, they're just they're well, that's that's
30:27
a that's a match made in heaven. When you talk about head coaches
30:30
and look very successful. They've won everywhere they've
30:34
been. So it's hard to it's hard to
30:36
throw stones at it, but just just two coaches that are not at
30:40
the top of my list. I think Trent, to answer your
30:43
question, I think that is an absolutely fair.
30:46
Yeah, I do too. Critique.
30:47
Of the situation. Because I don't know how you, I
30:49
don't know how they could have possibly been as prepared as
30:53
they want to be for this game. No question, Malachi.
30:56
Tony Boys is, I don't want to call him an X Factor because
30:58
everybody knows about him, yes, but this is a true freshman
31:01
we're talking about. He hasn't done a whole lot
31:02
during the. Playoff now.
31:04
The win game against A&M is a reason for that.
31:06
But yeah, he's been pretty quiet.
31:08
Yeah, at least in terms in the receiving game.
31:10
Yeah, it's I think it's tonight Pop a big.
31:12
One yeah. Against.
31:13
That Ole Miss D, maybe a couple, definitely consuading.
31:15
Yep. All right, Bama.
31:17
So we're we're all going to go on record our final minute here
31:19
we are we all taking Trent, taking Miami, I'm taking Miami.
31:24
Is it consensus? Are you going to take Miami or
31:26
take the SEC and fly that flag with Ole Miss?
31:30
I will not be upset of old miss wins.
31:33
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to take Miami for the reasons we
31:36
just talked about in terms of preparation and split staff.
31:39
And you mentioned Tony, I mean he may pop one in the in the
31:42
punk and that's really the return is what was what won the
31:45
game. They're listen, they're going to
31:47
pound it with Fletcher. Yep, and then they're going to
31:50
ask Beck not to screw it up basically.
31:52
And I think I think they can win it however you want to win it.
31:55
I think crystal ball is, you know, I wouldn't have thought at
31:58
the beginning of the playoff, right, But I haven't watched
32:01
these two games. I'm like, wow, that is a legit
32:05
team and I just, we'll talk. About it More tomorrow I.
32:09
Think we're headed to Miami, Indiana championship game and
32:12
wow, how much fun would that be? Just physical versus old school
32:17
football. But I think Miami wins tonight.
32:18
Good stuff, buddy. We'll talk to you this time.
32:20
Tomorrow Thank you Bama Bob appreciate it always enjoy guys
32:23
take. Care.
32:23
Good to talk to you, Bama Bob. As we take a look at Semi final
32:27
#1, we'll take a listen to David Icolt next.
32:29
He joins Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
32:41
I love Hall and Oates. Noreen Condon, welcome back,
32:44
Iowa Sports Radio Network. We're with you until 2:00, by
32:48
the way, before we get to David Ickel to join us.
32:50
He's on hold. Kyler Casper to BYU.
32:52
Did you see that coming? Yeah, you did BYU, not BYU, but
32:58
he's got. Six career catches.
32:59
Yeah. No, I know he's.
33:01
True, and anywhere outside of the.
33:02
State of Iowa, OK, a former sports star that's done nothing.
33:06
Yeah, it's because of his dad. Yeah.
33:08
Just thought maybe. Did he?
33:10
Kick the tires at. Oh, maybe.
33:11
I don't think I would kick the tires.
33:13
Do you know, David? Good to talk to you about?
33:14
Yeah, There you go. No good to.
33:16
Talk to you guys too. You know, I really don't think
33:19
so. From anything I've heard, there
33:20
really wasn't much interest there.
33:22
And this is something I've kind of repeatedly said because as
33:25
somebody who does defend recruiting rankings for little
33:28
obvious reasons, and I think there's a lot of value in them,
33:31
right? But if you're a former 4 star or
33:33
five star and you don't play much, and he's had injuries too,
33:36
so you got to give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.
33:39
But if you haven't played much in two or three years of college
33:42
football and you transfer and you're referring to recruiting
33:44
rankings, you're not that guy anymore.
33:46
You're just another guy. Fairpoint No.
33:49
Absolutely Fairpoint. Well, let's start there and
33:52
we're we're going to move around.
33:53
Well, it's not with Casper, but let's stay in that genre
33:57
entrigger. I, I think that this one caught
34:00
most people by surprise. Were there any whispers?
34:02
Was there anything that would have led you to believe in the
34:04
days leading up to it that maybe there's going to be a shoe drop
34:09
that nobody saw coming? Where were you on that, David?
34:12
You know, I I try to drop. Vague hints to people about just
34:16
expect the unexpected. And I've told you guys
34:18
repeatedly, it takes a lot for me to be surprised.
34:21
I really wasn't too surprised by this.
34:23
So let me let me rewind about a month ago I heard from a few
34:26
people that enteringer was looking to turn pro.
34:29
So I started asking around a couple pro scouts.
34:31
You know what his outlook might be.
34:33
They all agreed he needed more more power for tape, right?
34:36
And that's why I think you would have been a big breakout player
34:39
last year. But I'm.
34:41
Also of the opinion. And just based on talking to
34:43
some people, there are people in his camp to where if Enteringer
34:47
had really been healthy and gotten a substantial role last
34:50
season, I think the odds would have been he could have
34:53
transferred last season. But I also want to say this,
34:57
Cohen's an outstanding kid. He was all in as a Hawkeye.
35:02
And keep in mind, this is the guy who's been, he was voted
35:05
A-Team captain by everybody every single week.
35:08
And he represented Iowa at media day.
35:10
So I don't think that should be shortchanged, right?
35:13
This really doesn't surprise me. And that's why when I was down
35:16
in Tampa over Christmas and then for the bowl game, I did tweet
35:20
out the clip at the time, too, because I was kind of curious
35:23
how it was going to unfold. But I point blank asked Cohen
35:27
entering her refuse coming back next season.
35:29
And he said, yeah, yeah, I am. And he kind of laughed it off.
35:32
And then two minutes later, in that same interview I have
35:34
one-on-one, I asked him about what he learned this season and
35:38
what he's going to use it going in next season as far as
35:41
leadership. And he talked about how close
35:43
teams Zach Lutmer had got. And he said, I can't wait to
35:45
lead alongside him. So again, I'm not too upset
35:49
about Cohen entering or answering that because, you
35:52
know, I do think he could have played it off a lot better.
35:54
But the whole situation is just very, very interesting to me.
35:58
And I'll be very curious where he lines up because it's kind of
36:01
a hard sell to me guys, if you're playing, if you're
36:04
starting for Phil Parker secondary and the school and
36:08
probably Cohen himself would admit he probably got a decent
36:11
offer to stay at Iowa. I really don't think there's a
36:14
better place you could go to be developed than by Phil Parker
36:17
and the Iowa defense with that. They got 5 additions to this
36:22
point. Which one's your favorite?
36:23
Or maybe who's the guy that's going to be most impactful of
36:26
the five they have right now? And I mean.
36:29
Most. Impactful.
36:30
I think you got to go, Eli Ozick.
36:33
You're trying to rebuild. That the the specialist room at
36:36
the time and he's a really good kicker with multiple years of
36:39
eligibility. I really like Kamari Brown from
36:42
Elon. I think he's about 2:45 right
36:45
now putting like 10 lbs on. He's incredibly productive.
36:48
I'm going to go with Villanova safety Anthony Hawkins, but he
36:52
just has size. You can't teach 6 foot three
36:55
likely to play safety for this Hawkeye team.
36:58
I think he's obviously get cut to 2D.
36:59
Maybe he starts this year. He was very productive at
37:02
Villanova. He's a ball hawk.
37:04
You see him, he comes across as a very physical point of attack
37:08
kind of tackler too. And I think, again, you combine
37:10
him with that Phil Parker defense, especially with all the
37:13
opportunity that's at hand, I really love why I think he can
37:17
bring to the table. And on top of that, guys he's
37:20
got, I believe, three years of eligibility remaining.
37:22
But I was getting guys with multiple years of eligibility,
37:25
and I think that's absolutely critical when you look at the
37:28
makeup of this team at this point in time.
37:30
Yeah, I love my secondary. 63 whether you're corner or safety.
37:33
Good stuff. Reese Dakin obviously gone.
37:36
It's been back-to-back Aussies. Is that where they will look
37:38
again? You know, that's something.
37:41
I'm very interested about I know that they kind of scouted
37:44
players down at the lower level. I mean, I've heard as low as D3
37:47
as well. They they looked at a couple
37:49
players from there. I really don't think that
37:51
they'll be able to go the Australian route because you
37:53
don't have a special teams coordinator in place to get them
37:56
halfway across the country, right.
37:58
So again, I I think the portal period from a specialist
38:01
timeline kind of sucks for Iowa because I think they have Brock
38:05
Sherman, who's kind of been Lamar was his right hand man
38:08
leading the pack. I think he will get shot at
38:10
getting the full time gig. But I also think that's a very
38:12
lofty promotion. But I just don't see how you go
38:16
send an analyst halfway across the world to go try to get a
38:19
punter. But, you know, I, I think Iowa
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fans, they obviously want to see a new punter, but I also think
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Iowa fans like to think, well, Iowa won't be punting much next
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season, right? So the the.
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Workout the workload. Might not be as needed as it was
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in years past and probably helps.
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The relationship that they have with Pro Kick Australia, Dakin
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was set up well before he made his commitment.
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I remember that story and obviously what Tori Taylor
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turned into. So if they do have somebody over
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there looking for a home, a potential connection there,
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well, the biggest need position remains wide receiver.
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And yes, they need help on the D line, AD tackle and another
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safety, all those things. But they got a safety coming in
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today did. You see that from, right?
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But they need. They they need guys like that.
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Kate Wolford is one name we've talked about Kent State
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speedster out there, some ridiculous numbers, Tony Diaz
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another. Are we feeling good about that
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or are they going to be maybe scraping the bottom of the
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barrel here when we get to the end of the portal, you know,
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wide? Receivers, just one of those
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positions with Iowa guys where I've spent so much time thinking
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about it. And I mean this with all due
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respect, how do you sell it without overpaying, right?
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You're talking about a team that's best passing game was
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over 200 yards. They only crossed that mark once
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and that was the very last game of the season.
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Now, look, Iowa adjusted halfway through the year, I believe
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offensively, I think they really started really relying on Mark
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Gronowski's legs a lot more. They ran a lot more RPO's.
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You know, they got different halfbacks involved, but as far
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as Wolfer goes, he's wrapping up his visit at this point guys,
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and told a wide receiver commit, I'm not going to feel good about
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any of it. I just you got to see it at this
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point in time because again, I don't know how much you're going
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to be able to sell. And, and again, with all the
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respect, if you're talking about scraping the bomb of the barrel,
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Kent State was the worst power. It was the worst FBS team in
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football this year. Well Wolfer's numbers are
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ridiculous though. Like 19 catches, 7 touchdowns.
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I had the most yards per catch, I believe across college.
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Shabad had about 500 yards. But then you also go to Tony
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Diaz, who again, I like his numbers.
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Those Texas Rio Grande Valley guys, it's their first year
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playing college football as a program.
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So if those two aren't the bomb of the barrel, I'm not speaking
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individual talent wise. I'm not saying that whatsoever,
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right? I'm saying from a program
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standpoint, I I was kind of reaching right now I think for
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wide receivers, but again, they need speed they.
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Need guys that want to go have that.
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Big chip on their shoulder, they're replacing so much and we
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need to get the break. David, we, we're out of time
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brother. Appreciate it.
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We'll talk to you down the road. David Eichold, our 2 is next.
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Miller and Condon.