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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Everybody? Welcome in. It is time for
- 0:14Speaker 1: three guys before the game. This is episode number six
- 0:18Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six. It is our post game game
- 0:22Speaker 1: recap of West Virginia against the Bobcats of Ohio University.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Not the result that anyone was looking for, at least
- 0:33Speaker 1: anyone associated with West Virginia will break it down. Spreads
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- 1:34Speaker 1: West Virginia falls seventeen to ten to the Bobcats of
- 1:39Speaker 1: Ohio University. A lot to talk about. It means a
- 1:42Speaker 1: lot for a bunch of different reasons, obviously, So obviously
- 1:47Speaker 1: let's start this thing off with Hoppy's obvious observations.
- 1:52Speaker 2: So hold on, hold on, what can I go first?
- 1:54Speaker 1: Today? I think I'll start with how can I go first? There?
- 1:57Speaker 2: You need to go first?
- 1:58Speaker 1: Ye?
- 1:58Speaker 3: Yes you may, Yes you may.
- 1:59Speaker 2: When we do spreads on stats, and we'll do this
- 2:01Speaker 2: coming up, we normally go and take a look back
- 2:04Speaker 2: at what we said in the preview episode. I'll see
- 2:07Speaker 2: what we got right, what we got wrong. So I
- 2:10Speaker 2: thought we should begin that show, or I should begin
- 2:12Speaker 2: that show with a look back to Thursday's episode, and
- 2:17Speaker 2: I will first offer my sincere apologies to mister Kerschival
- 2:20Speaker 2: to my right.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Sincere.
- 2:22Speaker 2: We were on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms
- 2:26Speaker 2: of how this game might play out. I felt really
- 2:28Speaker 2: good about West Virginia's position. You were on the opposite side,
- 2:33Speaker 2: and as it turns out, you were right to be worried.
- 2:36Speaker 2: You were right to be worried about West Virginia's ability
- 2:38Speaker 2: to go in and get a win. And I said
- 2:40Speaker 2: on Thursday, if I was wrong, I would come in
- 2:42Speaker 2: and apologize to you. So I apologize you were right,
- 2:46Speaker 2: I was wrong.
- 2:47Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Come here, let'shug it out.
- 2:50Speaker 2: No, we're not gonna hug it out.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Set out make them uncomfortable. Let's good.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Well, hey, you know what, I'm really glad anyway, So
- 2:55Speaker 2: thank you for allowing me to go first. Now you
- 2:57Speaker 2: can do your obvious observations. But you were right on
- 3:01Speaker 2: You were right to be worried about a game, and
- 3:03Speaker 2: it was it was. It came to fruition.
- 3:05Speaker 4: When Bobby Bowden's Florida State beat West Virginia. This first
- 3:08Speaker 4: comment was I take no joy, he said, I want now.
- 3:11Speaker 4: I wanted to win the game, but I take no
- 3:13Speaker 4: joy in beating West Virginia. I take no joy, Brad
- 3:15Speaker 4: and being right, and by the way, the fact that
- 3:19Speaker 4: I was not alone in that. If you were a
- 3:21Speaker 4: neutral observer and you looked at this game, you saw
- 3:25Speaker 4: it was two and a half, three and a half points.
- 3:26Speaker 4: So people who had no vested interest saw this as hey,
- 3:31Speaker 4: this is a chance for home dog to get a
- 3:33Speaker 4: win against an untested team by a program. Granted it's Mac,
- 3:37Speaker 4: but a program has thirty one years wins over the
- 3:39Speaker 4: last three years, So it was it was not that
- 3:42Speaker 4: tough of a prediction.
- 3:43Speaker 3: If you're a neutral observer, fair.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Fair, Yeah, others share that, but you you called it.
- 3:49Speaker 2: You took your shot and called it okay, So congratulations,
- 3:52Speaker 2: oh thank you.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Take no joy in that. But guys were not neutral observers.
- 3:58Speaker 4: Mountain their nation not neutral observers. As I go into
- 4:01Speaker 4: obvious observations, So you come away from this game, and
- 4:04Speaker 4: we'll talk about this a lot, supremely disappointed, and not
- 4:08Speaker 4: only the loss, but how you played, and we'll get
- 4:11Speaker 4: deeply into that, and Brad has spreaddum stats on that.
- 4:15Speaker 4: But if you were thinking, when you were thinking about guys,
- 4:18Speaker 4: number of wins for this team, whether it was four
- 4:20Speaker 4: or five, six, seven, eight, you had this as a win, correct,
- 4:26Speaker 4: This was one you had as a win. Yes, No
- 4:28Speaker 4: matter how many wins you thought they were going to have,
- 4:30Speaker 4: this was one of them.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yes.
- 4:32Speaker 4: So then you're thinking, if you don't win this, where
- 4:37Speaker 4: are the wins. If you can't win this game, where
- 4:40Speaker 4: do the wins come? So I think on Mountaineer Nation
- 4:44Speaker 4: there's a whole recalibration going on. Again, prisoner of the moment.
- 4:49Speaker 4: You're allowed to get better, Brad, and we'll talk about that.
- 4:51Speaker 4: But prisoner of the moment, you are recalibrating as to
- 4:54Speaker 4: what kind of season you may have.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Fair, yes, okay.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Second point is that the defense played well enough to win.
- 5:04Speaker 4: I agree, defense played well enough to win. Gave up
- 5:07Speaker 4: seventeen points, created three.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Turnovers, none in the second half. What's that right, No
- 5:12Speaker 2: points in the second half.
- 5:13Speaker 3: No points, no points in the second half.
- 5:15Speaker 4: So the defense played well enough to win. If before
- 5:18Speaker 4: the game you said defense is going to cause three
- 5:20Speaker 4: turnovers and Gonn hold his seventeen points to go, okay, okay,
- 5:22Speaker 4: that's fine and good. We're in good shape. So and
- 5:25Speaker 4: the defense was on the field, by the way, all day,
- 5:27Speaker 4: all day, time of possession.
- 5:29Speaker 3: I haven't looked at that. But the offense was terrible.
- 5:34Speaker 3: Was terrible.
- 5:35Speaker 4: You got that after the Jeheim White run, after the
- 5:38Speaker 4: completion long completion and a run by touchdown run by
- 5:42Speaker 4: Jaheim and Jeem goes out with the injury. The offense
- 5:45Speaker 4: was anemic, did nothing, three turnovers in the third quarter.
- 5:49Speaker 4: You get no points, Tony, I'm not even sure if
- 5:50Speaker 4: you got a first down.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Now you went three and out three times in a row.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Three and out three times in a row after three turnovers.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
- 5:58Speaker 3: So the offense was just awful. Was just awful.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Now, you know, the blame typically falls to the quarterback,
- 6:05Speaker 4: but in fairness, when you can't run, and after Jaheem
- 6:09Speaker 4: went out, I think he had thirty yards rushing.
- 6:11Speaker 3: The rest of the game.
- 6:12Speaker 4: If you can't run, that puts tremendous pressure on the quarterback,
- 6:15Speaker 4: and they got to him. The offensive line did not
- 6:19Speaker 4: do a very effective job, and I wanted to see
- 6:21Speaker 4: Brad's grades a very effective job run blocking or pass blocking,
- 6:26Speaker 4: so that was a major factor. So it just it
- 6:33Speaker 4: was just a I don't think I've seen three more
- 6:36Speaker 4: disappointing offensive quarters in a long time.
- 6:39Speaker 2: That was really, really bad.
- 6:41Speaker 4: And even late in the game, I kept thinking, Okay,
- 6:43Speaker 4: wait a minute, you're gonna you get so many chances. Okay,
- 6:46Speaker 4: you'll get a touchdown to her, maybe overtime, and it
- 6:49Speaker 4: just it just never happened, never even came really close
- 6:52Speaker 4: to happening. So again, Brad will say, and it's accurate,
- 6:56Speaker 4: you're allowed to get better, but you got a lot
- 7:00Speaker 4: of getting better to do very quickly.
- 7:04Speaker 1: There's all fair observations on your part, and obvious too.
- 7:07Speaker 1: They're obvious, but they're all so fair.
- 7:10Speaker 2: I'll begin with some cliches.
- 7:12Speaker 4: Hey, wait a minute, that's my territory.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Let's first put away now, probably forever. The cliche that
- 7:21Speaker 2: you get better from week one to week two, probably done.
- 7:26Speaker 1: You want to start getting You want to use the
- 7:27Speaker 1: one called you get worse from week one to week two.
- 7:30Speaker 2: No, I'm just I think that's probably we weren't already
- 7:34Speaker 2: done with that. I think let's just go ahead and
- 7:35Speaker 2: that's that one anymore. The second one is, and probably
- 7:39Speaker 2: this is if you want to try and have a
- 7:40Speaker 2: little positive cheer here on Sunday today after the game,
- 7:43Speaker 2: which is hard to find after a loss like that,
- 7:45Speaker 2: you say, it's never as good as it looks. It's
- 7:48Speaker 2: never as bad.
- 7:49Speaker 1: As I've had that come through mind. You've said that
- 7:51Speaker 1: a couple of times, had that run through my head
- 7:53Speaker 1: today as a matter of fact.
- 7:54Speaker 2: So that's probably where you have to land with this.
- 7:56Speaker 2: It was not as good as it looked at Robert Morris,
- 7:58Speaker 2: it's probably not as bad as it looked yesterday, although
- 8:01Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment, that's hard to get passed with.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Also the added question mark around Jaheem White's health that
- 8:09Speaker 2: was another part of this game. Guys, that certainly had
- 8:11Speaker 2: changed the game. I know you weren't running up and
- 8:13Speaker 2: down the field with Jaheim in there, but the fact
- 8:15Speaker 2: that he goes out, and we have talked for months
- 8:18Speaker 2: now about the lack of depth a running back and
- 8:21Speaker 2: playmaking ability, and to lose him, who knows what's next.
- 8:25Speaker 2: But if that's for an extended amount of time, that's
- 8:28Speaker 2: really concerning moving forward on that part of it. So
- 8:32Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of numbers that the analysis will
- 8:34Speaker 2: go into, a bunch of the areas Hoppy you talked about,
- 8:37Speaker 2: but just overall share everybody's sentiments. And again, based on
- 8:42Speaker 2: my angle of this game on Thursday, I really did
- 8:45Speaker 2: think West Virginia would go in and find a way
- 8:47Speaker 2: to win that game, even if it was ugly, hop
- 8:50Speaker 2: as bad as you were playing, as much as you
- 8:53Speaker 2: were struggling to move the ball offensively, I did think
- 8:55Speaker 2: the defense, especially in the second half, gave you a
- 8:58Speaker 2: chance to win. We got the ball back three times
- 9:01Speaker 2: on the three picks and you just said it. You
- 9:03Speaker 2: go three nine plays minus seven yards after getting the interceptions,
- 9:08Speaker 2: that's the part where you're just scratching your head. After
- 9:11Speaker 2: the first one you went, okay, here you go. Then
- 9:13Speaker 2: you got the second one, You're like, all right, you're
- 9:15Speaker 2: gonna score now here to hear you, and you got
- 9:16Speaker 2: the thirty's like, well, my god, you're going to certainly
- 9:18Speaker 2: cash in on this one. And to not be able
- 9:21Speaker 2: to do that. You got the interceptions you thought you'd
- 9:23Speaker 2: get from Parker Navarro and you just couldn't cash it in.
- 9:25Speaker 2: That was particularly frustrating.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly was. So I think we all went
- 9:29Speaker 1: into this thing in uncharted territory because it's unprecedented that
- 9:33Speaker 1: West Virginia has as many new players as they do
- 9:36Speaker 1: on the roster. Eighty one was the official number, and
- 9:39Speaker 1: so the question was how long would it take for
- 9:41Speaker 1: them to gel? He said, well, let's give it some time.
- 9:44Speaker 1: It's great to get it open against Robert Morris, you
- 9:46Speaker 1: get your you get your feet wet, and then you're
- 9:48Speaker 1: gonna get a better challenge coming up here against Ohio University.
- 9:52Speaker 1: But then, like after watching it, you also have some
- 9:57Speaker 1: questions like that also were in the back of the
- 10:00Speaker 1: mind this whole thing, Like, if it was just this
- 10:02Speaker 1: easy to just go get a bunch of new players
- 10:05Speaker 1: and put them all together and expect that you're going
- 10:07Speaker 1: to look like really super sharp right off the bat,
- 10:10Speaker 1: probably not realistic. I think West Virginia has the most
- 10:13Speaker 1: new players of any program in the country. And so
- 10:17Speaker 1: that was a step back. And now these coaches are
- 10:22Speaker 1: really going to have to coach because there are some
- 10:24Speaker 1: fundamental issues that they are going to have to mask
- 10:29Speaker 1: going forward to have chances to win games. So now
- 10:35Speaker 1: and going into the pit game and going forward, now
- 10:38Speaker 1: they really have to look at it and go, Okay,
- 10:40Speaker 1: now we've got to smoke and mirror some things here,
- 10:42Speaker 1: because obviously that offensive line is nowhere near where it
- 10:48Speaker 1: needs to be one and two. As we all know,
- 10:53Speaker 1: when we know Rich Rodriguez's system, Rich flourishes when he
- 10:58Speaker 1: has quarterbacks that make big plays. Just like wherever he's been,
- 11:04Speaker 1: he's got to have a guy that can make something
- 11:06Speaker 1: out of nothing, and that certainly did not happen yesterday.
- 11:10Speaker 1: And so now they've got to go back and go, Okay,
- 11:14Speaker 1: how are we going to do this thing? I think
- 11:15Speaker 1: the defense over the long haul can be a solid unit,
- 11:20Speaker 1: but offensively there are a lot of things where they
- 11:23Speaker 1: need to figure some stuff.
- 11:24Speaker 2: We well, we talked a couple of weeks ago about
- 11:26Speaker 2: the inexperience of this offensive line. I went through the
- 11:28Speaker 2: starts returning from last year. I mean that again, talk
- 11:30Speaker 2: about not plowing new ground. The obvious concern into this
- 11:34Speaker 2: season was that offensive line and its lack of experience.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Never mind it's lack of playing together that has shown
- 11:40Speaker 2: up now the question marks around Jahim and your backup
- 11:42Speaker 2: running backs. Then your ability if you're not going to
- 11:45Speaker 2: be able to run it for a program that wants
- 11:48Speaker 2: to run it, that's just a basic problem, right, But
- 11:50Speaker 2: then you move to the second problem that if you're
- 11:52Speaker 2: not going to be ultra accurate on your passing and
- 11:55Speaker 2: get the ball to then what becomes your best playmakers
- 11:57Speaker 2: and a Jaden Bray and Cam Vaughn, who I think
- 11:59Speaker 2: are both really good, you better find a way to
- 12:02Speaker 2: complete some passes. And yesterday you didn't do that at
- 12:05Speaker 2: a high clip, and you didn't do it throwing it
- 12:07Speaker 2: down the field either. There was no no ability to
- 12:10Speaker 2: hit the ball deep except that one at the end
- 12:11Speaker 2: of the game, which I still still not sure they
- 12:13Speaker 2: got that right. I thought that might have been a
- 12:14Speaker 2: catch by Cam Vaughan. But you've got to be able
- 12:17Speaker 2: to get the ball in those guys' hands, and you
- 12:19Speaker 2: just didn't do a good job of that yesterday.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Either man injury wise, on the offensive side, quietly everyone's
- 12:23Speaker 1: talking about Jahem White and while they should. I mean,
- 12:25Speaker 1: Jayden Bray went out with an injury and like his
- 12:27Speaker 1: status is an unknown right now, and he's a guy
- 12:30Speaker 1: that also could be very very productive going for he
- 12:36Speaker 1: got knocked out there early and did not return. So yeah,
- 12:39Speaker 1: there was there were several guys and Tony.
- 12:41Speaker 4: We came away from that Robert Morris game and we
- 12:43Speaker 4: kept saying opponent to justice. That's true, but West Virginia
- 12:46Speaker 4: did look pretty good on the second half against Robert Morris.
- 12:49Speaker 4: Robert Morris is not good. I mean they got Youngstown
- 12:52Speaker 4: State boat raced him. Youngstown State was up fifty six
- 12:56Speaker 4: to three late in that game before Robert Morris got
- 12:59Speaker 4: a couple of eight touch down So that kind of
- 13:01Speaker 4: puts that in perspective as well.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, someone pointed out to me last week,
- 13:07Speaker 1: they said, you know, you guys were talking on the
- 13:08Speaker 1: podcast that Jehem White was running hard and was getting
- 13:11Speaker 1: additional yards off of contact. He said, here's my concern, you.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Weren't downfield before you were getting hit. Yeah, no question,
- 13:17Speaker 2: that's the rhip side of that.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Yeah, correct. But he was getting hit initially and then
- 13:21Speaker 1: he was surging through and going forward. So obviously a
- 13:25Speaker 1: lot to work. So that becomes our obviously segment, Hoppy,
- 13:27Speaker 1: you've you've started obviously a whole thing. Obviously we know
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- 15:29Speaker 1: go right to the numbers, all right, let's do this thing.
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- 16:22Speaker 1: uses oftentimes mature over time as more and more of
- 16:26Speaker 1: the film gets graded. So we do this relatively early
- 16:30Speaker 1: on Sunday. Jumping in at this point did you have
- 16:34Speaker 1: any ah ha moments when you dug in.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Well, let's just let's just start in here. No no
- 16:41Speaker 2: rhyme or reason to where I'm going, but I'm gonna
- 16:43Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with where the scouting report for this
- 16:47Speaker 2: game started. That's with Parker Navarro OUs quarterback. Again, every
- 16:51Speaker 2: person that talked about this game mentioned his ability to scramble,
- 16:55Speaker 2: and that was going to be a concern for West Virginia.
- 16:58Speaker 2: So you look at what Navarro did you yesterday. Guys.
- 17:00Speaker 2: He had seventy eight percent of Ohio U's total yards
- 17:04Speaker 2: excuse me, seventy eight percent of their total yards playmaker difference.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So that was a guy, the one guy on that
- 17:09Speaker 2: team you couldn't let beat you and had to try
- 17:12Speaker 2: and see if someone else could do it. They didn't
- 17:15Speaker 2: need to, because Navarro carried the day there. And here's
- 17:17Speaker 2: what got you eight scrambles. He's credited with eight quarterback
- 17:21Speaker 2: scrambles for eighty three yards.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Wow.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Six of those eight resulted in first downs.
- 17:27Speaker 3: There you go.
- 17:28Speaker 2: He had five mistackles that he forced on those and
- 17:31Speaker 2: they were in big moments. It seemed like every time
- 17:34Speaker 2: he ran it was in a big moment and that's
- 17:36Speaker 2: evidenced by those six of those eight scrambles turned into
- 17:38Speaker 2: first downs, So you could probably just stop right there.
- 17:41Speaker 2: I mean, that was likely the difference in this game
- 17:44Speaker 2: from an offensive standpoint, especially in the first half when
- 17:46Speaker 2: they got that lead. It was almost their entire running game,
- 17:52Speaker 2: his ability to scramble. How about these numbers. You take
- 17:55Speaker 2: those scramble yards away, and they had ninety five yards
- 18:00Speaker 2: rushing on forty carries, two point four yards per carry.
- 18:05Speaker 2: So we said going in in the scouting report, that
- 18:07Speaker 2: was a rebuilt ohiou offensive line, four or five new starters.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Thought it might be advantaged for West Virginia's defense. It was,
- 18:13Speaker 2: I mean, West Forray's defense was there other than that
- 18:16Speaker 2: one thing, and that was a big other because it
- 18:18Speaker 2: cost you the game. One of the other things we
- 18:20Speaker 2: mentioned that came to fruition on Thursday, I said there
- 18:23Speaker 2: was going to be an interception. Went on record with
- 18:25Speaker 2: my first official prediction from the stats. He said that
- 18:28Speaker 2: he said there was going to be an interception. He
- 18:30Speaker 2: had shown that his big time throw numbers versus turnover
- 18:34Speaker 2: worthy plays that we recounted for you last Thursday's episode
- 18:37Speaker 2: came to fruition. He gave you three of them. That's
- 18:40Speaker 2: the part, guys, when you go back at this one, Ohio,
- 18:43Speaker 2: you gets to win. Full credit to them, man, they
- 18:45Speaker 2: tried to give you that game. They tried everything possible
- 18:49Speaker 2: to hand you that game on a silver platter. I
- 18:51Speaker 2: went back on wvustats dot com. West Virginia is twenty
- 18:56Speaker 2: three and two over its last twenty five games when
- 18:59Speaker 2: it has three picks in a game twenty three and
- 19:02Speaker 2: two that dates all the way back to two thousand
- 19:04Speaker 2: and three. Wow, So you talk about just an absolute outlier.
- 19:08Speaker 2: You'd not only win the turnover battle, but you get
- 19:10Speaker 2: three interceptions from a guy you thought was susceptible to
- 19:13Speaker 2: throw him and he did, and you couldn't go nine
- 19:16Speaker 2: plays minus seven yards after the eye intent.
- 19:18Speaker 4: Bred I forget exactly where they were they were, but
- 19:21Speaker 4: one of them was in near midfield right.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Oh one was inside territory.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Got zero.
- 19:27Speaker 1: I mean absolutely an.
- 19:28Speaker 4: It's not like you got it on the four and
- 19:31Speaker 4: you couldn't you couldn't move. Not only did you not score,
- 19:33Speaker 4: you couldn't move and didn't move the ball at all.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Your best chance to score might have been the Ben
- 19:40Speaker 1: Cutter in interception. Oh yeah, he might have been able
- 19:42Speaker 1: to get to the sideline and go all the way
- 19:44Speaker 1: had an offensive lineman trip him up. Like that's where
- 19:47Speaker 1: we're at, right, that's where you were at in that game.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Like Cutter's got a score. Kind of makes this thing tie.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Best offensive weapon Ben Cutter.
- 19:55Speaker 2: We also talked about pressure. Thought you could probably get
- 19:58Speaker 2: some pressure on Park Navarro. He handled it pretty well
- 20:02Speaker 2: from a completion percentage, better than he's been in his
- 20:04Speaker 2: whole career, nine to thirteen for one thirty seven under pressure.
- 20:07Speaker 2: But two of his picks came when you got pressure
- 20:09Speaker 2: on him. So it's just again, you did what you
- 20:11Speaker 2: had to do. From that perspective, you got pressure on him,
- 20:14Speaker 2: forced him into scrambling, but you couldn't contain. It was
- 20:17Speaker 2: pressure and contained, and you couldn't get the contained part
- 20:20Speaker 2: of it. Maybe the biggest surprise of the day to
- 20:23Speaker 2: me was how much OU's defense struggled versus Rutgers and
- 20:27Speaker 2: then did not struggle against West Virginia. I know a
- 20:30Speaker 2: lot of that was a result of what West Virginia
- 20:32Speaker 2: didn't do, But we talked about the Bobcats coverage grade
- 20:35Speaker 2: coming into this game after one game on the season
- 20:38Speaker 2: against small sample size but it was the second worst
- 20:40Speaker 2: in the entire country. After game one, they had a
- 20:43Speaker 2: forty one grade against Rutgers. In coverage against West Virginia
- 20:47Speaker 2: that jumped all the way to a sixty eight and
- 20:48Speaker 2: a half grade, so a massive improvement there. Nico held
- 20:52Speaker 2: a just fifty eight percent completion rate one week after
- 20:55Speaker 2: a career high and hoppy. You're right, Robert Morris just
- 20:57Speaker 2: isn't good. I get it, but just fifty eight percent
- 20:59Speaker 2: completely when there were some windows to throw in that
- 21:02Speaker 2: they just didn't hit. That certainly killed you without an
- 21:05Speaker 2: ability to run it. You weren't throwing the ball effectively
- 21:08Speaker 2: enough either, and you probably should have been able to
- 21:11Speaker 2: against the SOU defense. OHU tackling grade also one of
- 21:14Speaker 2: the worst in the country. After game one, it was
- 21:17Speaker 2: a fifty four grade against Rutgers, jumped all the way
- 21:20Speaker 2: to a seventy one point seven against West Virginia. Instead,
- 21:23Speaker 2: it was West Virginia's defense that had the tackling issue. Again,
- 21:26Speaker 2: that didn't cost you the game, but if you get
- 21:28Speaker 2: Parker Navarro down a couple times, that would have helped
- 21:31Speaker 2: fourteen mistackles forced by OU runners in that game, which
- 21:35Speaker 2: will be MiG zach Ally crazy, I realize here's another
- 21:39Speaker 2: telling stat guys, Ohio, you ran forty nine percent of
- 21:43Speaker 2: its plays in West Virginia territory, oh half of its plays.
- 21:47Speaker 2: West Virginia ran just twenty seven percent of its plays
- 21:50Speaker 2: in OU territory. That was a bigger gap in the
- 21:53Speaker 2: first half. It was like forty three percent to five
- 21:56Speaker 2: percent in the first half. When that game was ultimately decided,
- 22:00Speaker 2: both teams really struggled offensively. You look at offensive success
- 22:03Speaker 2: rate when you get fifty percent of your yards on
- 22:06Speaker 2: first down, seventy percent by second down, and if you
- 22:08Speaker 2: convert a first down on third or fourth that contributes
- 22:11Speaker 2: to your success rate. OU was just thirty three percent
- 22:14Speaker 2: success rate. So offensively again shows by the seventeen points
- 22:18Speaker 2: you hold teams to seventeen you think you're gonna win
- 22:22Speaker 2: under Rich's program, right, that should be a win. You
- 22:24Speaker 2: hold a team to thirty three percent success rate, you'll
- 22:27Speaker 2: probably win that game. They just outside of Navarro's scrambling.
- 22:30Speaker 2: That's really the only thing that hurts you. West Virginia
- 22:32Speaker 2: was even worse though, just twenty seven percent success rate.
- 22:37Speaker 2: West Virginia's run blocking grade. Because I figured you were
- 22:40Speaker 2: going to ask me about this. It's worst regular season
- 22:44Speaker 2: grade since pitt in the opening game of twenty twenty
- 22:47Speaker 2: two and the fourth lowest run blocking grade in the
- 22:51Speaker 2: last eleven seasons.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Not surprised.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Through two games, West Virginia's fifteenth out of sixteen teams
- 22:59Speaker 2: in the Big twelve and run blow So just really struggled.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Couldn't get anything going left in particular, just nine carries
- 23:05Speaker 2: for thirteen yards when trying to run it left. What
- 23:13Speaker 2: else you want to know? That's those are the low lights.
- 23:16Speaker 4: Third down to it seemed like that you were in
- 23:19Speaker 4: third and long a ton Tony. It felt like, I
- 23:23Speaker 4: don't know what the numbers were, but you were two
- 23:24Speaker 4: of thirteenth for third down. But you were just always
- 23:26Speaker 4: in a way you finished. You finished two of thirteen
- 23:29Speaker 4: on third down.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Yeah, aving they went they went five or fourteen on third,
- 23:34Speaker 1: one of three on three on fourth. So they were
- 23:37Speaker 1: six of seventeen on conversion downs to West Virginia was
- 23:40Speaker 1: two out of fourteen.
- 23:41Speaker 2: And here's here's more behind those numbers as to why
- 23:45Speaker 2: the game ends seventeen ten. Not only are you two
- 23:48Speaker 2: of thirteen, which is self explanatory, you averaged seven point
- 23:52Speaker 2: three yards per third down. So again, this offense over
- 23:56Speaker 2: time is that you're not built to be in third
- 23:58Speaker 2: and seven when you want to do it rich wants
- 24:00Speaker 2: to do. But you only averaged three and a half
- 24:02Speaker 2: yards per play on third down. You were one of
- 24:05Speaker 2: six throwing the ball on third down two. That's just
- 24:08Speaker 2: not even remotely good enough.
- 24:10Speaker 1: And it was an absolute master class on limiting the
- 24:13Speaker 1: possessions they had the ball. I mean, you saw they
- 24:16Speaker 1: got away probably with at least two delay of games
- 24:19Speaker 1: that they didn't throw the flag own. But anyway, they
- 24:21Speaker 1: had the ball for forty minutes and fifteen seconds to
- 24:24Speaker 1: West Virginia's nineteen forty five. They two for won them
- 24:28Speaker 1: in time of possession. But how do you beat a
- 24:30Speaker 1: team that wants to go fast? Don't give them the ball, right.
- 24:33Speaker 4: And that was their plan obviously, I mean that was
- 24:35Speaker 4: part of their plan and that worked. That worked because
- 24:36Speaker 4: they had time of possession in West Virginia had to
- 24:39Speaker 4: three it out then they would keep the ball for
- 24:40Speaker 4: a while. But you did have but you did have opportunities.
- 24:45Speaker 4: You had the ball a lot. You just didn't make
- 24:47Speaker 4: the most of it when you had the ball.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's right. I mean again, all credit
- 24:51Speaker 2: to ill Hiu because they crafted the plan as they
- 24:53Speaker 2: needed to, and yes, holding it in limited especially in
- 24:57Speaker 2: the first half. The time of possessions more stark in
- 24:59Speaker 2: the half twenty one to fifty five for Ohio, you
- 25:02Speaker 2: just eight minutes five seconds for West Virginia. And so, guys,
- 25:06Speaker 2: we know this. The tempo offense is great when it's
- 25:09Speaker 2: working and devastating when it's working if it's not and
- 25:12Speaker 2: you're not having If you're getting those success rate numbers
- 25:15Speaker 2: on offense and you're going fast, that's a problem. It's
- 25:17Speaker 2: going to lead to a twenty two to eight advantage
- 25:20Speaker 2: in time of possession. But you're right, hop and I
- 25:22Speaker 2: think that's ultimately what's the most frustrating about this game is,
- 25:26Speaker 2: with all the credit to Ohio, you you still handle them, right,
- 25:29Speaker 2: You still handle them for the most part, But just
- 25:32Speaker 2: big plays by Navarro on the scrambles. You couldn't you
- 25:35Speaker 2: couldn't take advantage of those interceptions and punch it in
- 25:38Speaker 2: and you just didn't do enough offensively to get you
- 25:41Speaker 2: one more score that may have changed that game.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Special teams, couple of penalties on some kick returns, yeah,
- 25:50Speaker 1: don't help you at all.
- 25:52Speaker 2: But just some untimely penalties overall too, wasn't there? Yes,
- 25:55Speaker 2: just in some massive moments and eight.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Penalties for eighty five yards again to an offense that
- 26:00Speaker 4: could move the ball. You know, now not all those
- 26:03Speaker 4: were offensive penalties to understand, but but that's just I mean.
- 26:06Speaker 2: You had a laid head on a quarterback, which costs you.
- 26:09Speaker 3: I didn't like that call.
- 26:10Speaker 2: I didn't like that call either. He had defensive holding
- 26:12Speaker 2: on the third down, which ultimately turned into a touchdown
- 26:14Speaker 2: drive for Ohio.
- 26:15Speaker 1: You you just so.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Penalties that you didn't need, but they were really costly
- 26:20Speaker 2: in big, big moments where you got a lot of those.
- 26:25Speaker 4: So now again we like to talk about the officials,
- 26:27Speaker 4: and the officials certainly didn't. Let me be clear, the
- 26:30Speaker 4: officials had did not cost you the game. You did
- 26:33Speaker 4: it to yourself, accordit to Ohio University. But how do
- 26:36Speaker 4: you call a roughing the passer when you push the
- 26:38Speaker 4: quarterback and he doesn't fall down.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the new emphasis. It's a new emphasis this year.
- 26:45Speaker 1: It is.
- 26:46Speaker 3: So you think that's what it was.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Yes, we had an official at practice last week. Tell me,
- 26:51Speaker 1: he goes, wait to you. That's exactly what he said
- 26:53Speaker 1: to me, he goes, wait, do you see a roughing
- 26:57Speaker 1: the passer called when the quarterback touch but doesn't get
- 27:01Speaker 1: knocked down. Told me that last week.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Oh there it is.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that was our boy.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Tell me that's tough too, especially on a quarterback that's
- 27:10Speaker 2: so slippery. What are you supposed to do there? You
- 27:12Speaker 2: hold up and he takes off and slips outside on you.
- 27:15Speaker 2: You know, guys, the offensive line concerns, as I said earlier,
- 27:20Speaker 2: have been there. I'm not plowing new ground right there,
- 27:23Speaker 2: but I think they really showed themselves. Before you got
- 27:25Speaker 2: to the end of the game. You could see there
- 27:27Speaker 2: were problems. There were two third down and twos tony
- 27:30Speaker 2: early in that game, and WVU went with perimeter plays
- 27:34Speaker 2: right the one pitch to Jahim White you tried to
- 27:36Speaker 2: get around the outside, and the other you called a
- 27:38Speaker 2: pass play and had Nico roll to his right and
- 27:41Speaker 2: try and throw. And right there, if you needed another
- 27:44Speaker 2: indication that West Virginia didn't trust where it was third
- 27:47Speaker 2: in just two from a Rich Rodriguez offense and you're
- 27:49Speaker 2: not just lining up smacking them right in the face.
- 27:51Speaker 2: I think that probably jumped to you and said, okay,
- 27:55Speaker 2: these guys aren't aren't comfortable with what the offensive line
- 27:57Speaker 2: is able to do up front. And again it's it's
- 28:00Speaker 2: doubly maddening in that that's an OU group that lost
- 28:03Speaker 2: their entire front seven. So that's not just a West
- 28:06Speaker 2: Virginia team that's rebuilt. That's an OU defense up front
- 28:09Speaker 2: that's totally rebuilt when West Virginia had to try and
- 28:12Speaker 2: beat it on the perimeter rather than big buoying it
- 28:15Speaker 2: up front. So I would assume that's that's a real
- 28:18Speaker 2: concern for this group moving forward.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. And now you got to
- 28:22Speaker 1: figure some things out. Now you got to figure some things.
- 28:25Speaker 1: I just got you know, it's like anything else. You think.
- 28:30Speaker 1: There was concern before the season started. Rich had said
- 28:33Speaker 1: on multiplication, not sure if we're strong enough in the
- 28:36Speaker 1: offensive line. The bad news is you can't get stronger
- 28:40Speaker 1: when the season starts, right. That's not for now, that's
- 28:43Speaker 1: for January the August, and that's a concern. So that
- 28:49Speaker 1: you've got to go, Okay, what are our chance is
- 28:52Speaker 1: that more tight ends into the formations to give yourself
- 28:55Speaker 1: an extra blocker. Now any thing and everything is open
- 29:01Speaker 1: for grabs. And they've been here before. They've done it before.
- 29:04Speaker 1: I talked to Rich the other day and he had
- 29:09Speaker 1: a situation when he was at Ole Miss with an
- 29:12Speaker 1: offensive line that just wasn't going to be good enough.
- 29:15Speaker 1: And here he is in the SEC and the at
- 29:18Speaker 1: Ole Miss he had starting three true freshmen, a red
- 29:23Speaker 1: shirt freshman and a junior. Not real good in that league. Right,
- 29:28Speaker 1: So you just got to you gotta be creative.
- 29:32Speaker 4: That's a challenge because if defenses can stop the West
- 29:37Speaker 4: Virginia run without doing anything special, just using the guys
- 29:41Speaker 4: up front, what does that mean? There's more guys back
- 29:43Speaker 4: makes it even harder to pass, right.
- 29:45Speaker 1: I mean that.
- 29:46Speaker 4: So it's one thing leads to another, leads to another,
- 29:50Speaker 4: and you got got serious problems.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:53Speaker 2: So this is one of those again, as I always say,
- 29:55Speaker 2: you're allowed to get better, and Rich's teams get better.
- 29:58Speaker 2: So this is a this is an all time exam
- 30:00Speaker 2: of how much better can you get? While at the
- 30:02Speaker 2: same time the competition is getting a lot better starting
- 30:06Speaker 2: with Pitt, Right, it goes that's the challenge. Now, now
- 30:08Speaker 2: you're into big boy football here, and that gets really hard.
- 30:12Speaker 2: And the offensive line challenges are Rich and play anybody
- 30:16Speaker 2: no backups on the offensive line played yesterday. That's starting
- 30:19Speaker 2: five went the whole game. So that also tells you
- 30:21Speaker 2: if you have guys up front that are struggling a
- 30:22Speaker 2: little bit and you're not bringing people in behind him.
- 30:25Speaker 2: There's not a lot of confidence apparently in that second
- 30:28Speaker 2: group yet either. So it's just that's a real question
- 30:31Speaker 2: is how quickly can that group get better? Can it
- 30:34Speaker 2: get better? How much better while also facing much better
- 30:37Speaker 2: competition coming in the rest of the season.
- 30:39Speaker 3: And do you have Jaheim White.
- 30:42Speaker 1: That was a horrible situation.
- 30:44Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lower body and you worry about that.
- 30:47Speaker 4: He had to be helped off the field, and you
- 30:48Speaker 4: don't want to speculate, but who we'll get into that.
- 30:52Speaker 3: You guys an info?
- 30:54Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I got to say double penalty.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Of course, he got horse collared, face masked and rolled
- 30:59Speaker 1: to all on the same play. Yes, say it again.
- 31:04Speaker 1: He got horse collared, face masked and roll tackled on
- 31:08Speaker 1: the same play. Well, that's that's a that's a bad
- 31:11Speaker 1: situation right there.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Man.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I have no idea what it's going to turn out
- 31:14Speaker 1: to be, but that that is, that's a that's a wow.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Thats wow, that's an absolute on one tackler on that
- 31:22Speaker 2: same on one play inflicted that damage. You want to
- 31:25Speaker 2: see why the horse caller is illegal?
- 31:27Speaker 1: Yeah, right there, and the roll tackle three guys before
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- 32:11Speaker 4: Can I find one little nugget of bright spot in
- 32:14Speaker 4: this in the offense? Just one little as you look
- 32:17Speaker 4: at the sky and you see maybe just a little
- 32:19Speaker 4: bright light in the distance. I know he only had
- 32:22Speaker 4: two catches and one was ruled not a catch. Cam
- 32:24Speaker 4: Vaughan's a player m he's a guy.
- 32:26Speaker 1: I mean, Vaughn was open a lot in the game.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Was he he was open a lot in the game.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Get him the ball, Get him the.
- 32:33Speaker 4: Ball, and he's to me early analysis, He's something West
- 32:39Speaker 4: Virginia hasn't had for several years.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Now, Brad, that is a guy that can go get
- 32:43Speaker 3: the ball.
- 32:43Speaker 2: That first catch he made and contested because the defender
- 32:48Speaker 2: was there, but he went up and again this should
- 32:52Speaker 2: be a basic thing, but it's not. He just went
- 32:54Speaker 2: up and didn't wait for the ball to get to
- 32:56Speaker 2: his hands. He just went and picked that thing out
- 32:59Speaker 2: of the air. Yeah, he's again you're going to have
- 33:01Speaker 2: to get to the ball. You have got to be
- 33:03Speaker 2: more accurate and get him the football and let him
- 33:05Speaker 2: make plays.
- 33:06Speaker 3: I mean the pass that he caught that was ruled
- 33:08Speaker 3: out of bounds, which was that was a fifty to fifty.
- 33:11Speaker 4: He had to turn, twist his body around, catch it
- 33:15Speaker 4: low to the ground, which is hard while falling down
- 33:18Speaker 4: while keeping trying to keep his feet in bounced. That
- 33:20Speaker 4: was a tremendous catch. Yep, that was ruled incomplete, but
- 33:24Speaker 4: a great catch.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. So again that's something else
- 33:30Speaker 1: that they've got to look at now and say, okay.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Get him the ball. Get him the ball. He's id go,
- 33:34Speaker 4: get him the ball. M Hopefully jaydan Bray is not
- 33:39Speaker 4: too badly hurt.
- 33:41Speaker 1: No idea. The loss means that game day will not
- 33:45Speaker 1: be coming here. ESPN had given West Virginia the wink wink,
- 33:49Speaker 1: we're coming just when missed opportunity. So you can't make
- 33:54Speaker 1: that one publicity wise, you can't make that one up. No,
- 33:57Speaker 1: So now you just got to go ahead and say, okay, fine,
- 34:00Speaker 1: let's just get better. Let's take care of business. And
- 34:03Speaker 1: as they say, when two old rivals get together, you
- 34:05Speaker 1: can throw the record books out the window. Have you
- 34:07Speaker 1: ever heard that? Hoppy? You can?
- 34:10Speaker 4: But you got you have to improve a lot for
- 34:13Speaker 4: this game. I mean, we'll talk more about that later
- 34:15Speaker 4: this week. But you got to You got a lot
- 34:17Speaker 4: of ground to make up here, guys. Yeah, I mean,
- 34:18Speaker 4: you got a lot of work to do. You gotta
- 34:21Speaker 4: you gotta figure some things out.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Well. The crowd will do its part. We know that
- 34:25Speaker 1: they will be ready to go and people will be enthused.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Regardless of what happened, it is still the pit West
- 34:33Speaker 1: Virginia rivalry. It's the backyard brawl. So I know that
- 34:36Speaker 1: the fans will do their part. Coming up in just
- 34:39Speaker 1: a second, we are going to do textual healing and
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- 35:35Speaker 3: A nice win by Baylor yesterday.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Needed that, needed that for the league. How about the
- 35:40Speaker 1: Arizona State Did you how that ended?
- 35:42Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. Did you see how the Oklahoma State
- 35:47Speaker 3: game ended?
- 35:48Speaker 1: Yeah? Before it started? Yeah? Got a situation there.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Huh, any situation I always stayed with a good non
- 35:54Speaker 2: league win.
- 35:55Speaker 3: That was a nice win.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Got a late feel this the field goal kicker, as
- 35:59Speaker 4: you know brand, same guy kicked the same distance field
- 36:01Speaker 4: goal last year to win the game. Yes, two years now,
- 36:04Speaker 4: I hit the same distance fifty plus fifty four four
- 36:08Speaker 4: fifty four. Meanwhile, you think they might do a little
- 36:11Speaker 4: statue of him around. They should get Jack Trice Stadium
- 36:14Speaker 4: getting there, get the kids a little something.
- 36:16Speaker 1: It must.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Kansas State in an absolute free fall there they had.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Army was very army like in the second half. I
- 36:27Speaker 4: was watching nicking in the second half. What was a
- 36:29Speaker 4: braand with four minutes.
- 36:30Speaker 2: To go, well, Case State only had like two possessions
- 36:33Speaker 2: in the second half.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Yeah, touched it twice twice second half.
- 36:39Speaker 4: Yeah, that is absolute water torture. And Army won the
- 36:41Speaker 4: game even though they got a bad call. Wait in
- 36:43Speaker 4: the game, Case State receiver Army was up. Case State
- 36:48Speaker 4: receiver caught the ball in Army territory, caught it, took
- 36:53Speaker 4: two steps, safety came up, dislodged the ball. Army recovered
- 36:57Speaker 4: incomplete and during the review they had an official on Mike.
- 37:02Speaker 4: I mean the official that part of the broadcast said
- 37:04Speaker 4: that's clear he caught the ball. This is army ball
- 37:07Speaker 4: and they fishally go back a well, he stands incomplete pass.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Had a microphone situation in an Oklahoma State game.
- 37:13Speaker 4: What happened there?
- 37:14Speaker 1: You say that young fella from Oklahoma State. Yeah, got
- 37:17Speaker 1: caught on a holding penalty. Happened to be walking behind
- 37:20Speaker 1: the referee when the referee was publicly announcing the call.
- 37:26Speaker 3: What happened?
- 37:27Speaker 2: Y f bombing?
- 37:28Speaker 1: He did? Oh, he did that. He didn't f bomb
- 37:31Speaker 1: the official. He basically was f bombing himself that he
- 37:34Speaker 1: got the call and he just gave it a big
- 37:36Speaker 1: f bomb while the guy's holday number sixty four on
- 37:39Speaker 1: the offense and the kid just went right on cue.
- 37:42Speaker 1: There's a right through the whole system.
- 37:44Speaker 4: There was another spitgate too yesterday.
- 37:47Speaker 1: What's up a spitting man? Who does that?
- 37:49Speaker 4: Well, you don't, Well, you're not supposed to do it.
- 37:51Speaker 4: If you're going to do that, you do it in
- 37:52Speaker 4: the scrum when everybody's under you. Don't do it when
- 37:55Speaker 4: you're standing looking at the guy.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Back in those days, that's yeah, you spit on
- 37:58Speaker 1: in the pile. You don't suspend cameras everywhere nowadays two
- 38:02Speaker 1: plus four K I mean you're like, you're not You're
- 38:04Speaker 1: not going to get much out there anymore now.
- 38:06Speaker 3: And actually see the spittle.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, time for textual healing. It's brought to us
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- 38:26Speaker 1: three zero four four zero four forty eighty three three
- 38:29Speaker 1: zero four four zero four forty eighty three. We've got
- 38:33Speaker 1: all of our stuff there, and we do have a
- 38:37Speaker 1: big weekend. Obviously, there would have been a lot of
- 38:41Speaker 1: things bubbling, and I do think that after a couple
- 38:45Speaker 1: of days here, people will kind of refocus on the
- 38:48Speaker 1: subject at hand and that'll be pivot. Let me just
- 38:50Speaker 1: kind of can I give you a rundown please, if
- 38:52Speaker 1: you don't a lot going, if you don't mind, We've
- 38:54Speaker 1: got three events in public this week. So first off,
- 39:03Speaker 1: we've got the food court and the great folks at
- 39:06Speaker 1: Clear Mountain Bank present that to us. By the way,
- 39:09Speaker 1: ran into the president down there, Dave Thomas and the
- 39:13Speaker 1: wife Stacy, the kids, the family, the whole deal there,
- 39:16Speaker 1: met them. They were at the Ou game. They came down.
- 39:18Speaker 1: They came down for the game. So Dave is a
- 39:19Speaker 1: president Clear Mountain Bank, and our food courts presented by
- 39:22Speaker 1: Clear Mountain Bank. So the first thing we're going to
- 39:26Speaker 1: do is this Thursday, we are going back. They're letting
- 39:30Speaker 1: us back in the Buffalo Wild Wings and we are
- 39:33Speaker 1: going to do a two hour live show that is
- 39:35Speaker 1: not recorded, two hour live show, and it will have banter, banter, games, music, surprises,
- 39:46Speaker 1: maybe trivia, maybe maybe not. I'm going there may be
- 39:51Speaker 1: new leadership for trivia. That's all I must say. And
- 39:55Speaker 1: we're going to do the Blazing Wing Challenge again. Last
- 39:57Speaker 1: time we had four people enter in three of them
- 40:00Speaker 1: eight to ten wings within five minutes. You know, Alex,
- 40:04Speaker 1: the director of operations over there, Mountaineer Basketball, I do
- 40:07Speaker 1: rearranged his schedule. Rearrange his schedule. So he's going to
- 40:11Speaker 1: be in. He's in, he's in. He's a hard in
- 40:14Speaker 1: hard in. We might have to have a bigger team,
- 40:16Speaker 1: That's what I think. And there may be might we
- 40:19Speaker 1: have we have another person have two rounds. There may
- 40:23Speaker 1: be there's a person that might do it that will
- 40:25Speaker 1: blow everyone's mind, no pun intended. Okay, so we're there.
- 40:29Speaker 1: We invite you to join us Buffalo Wild Wings, Suncresttown
- 40:33Speaker 1: Center from six until eight free. Yeah, it doesn't cost anything.
- 40:36Speaker 1: Just show up.
- 40:37Speaker 3: Also we might want to eat there or have a
- 40:39Speaker 3: beverage free to get in.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, no cover.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Chart, no cover. And then we're really blowing out the
- 40:48Speaker 1: food court on Friday and Saturday. The food court's located
- 40:52Speaker 1: next to Daniel's Men's store on University Avenue, right to
- 40:56Speaker 1: the left hand side, and we're going to blow that out. Hey,
- 40:59Speaker 1: by the way, Braiden, let's go back. Let's show some
- 41:02Speaker 1: of those pictures from our last visit. Check it. Now.
- 41:05Speaker 1: We had a crowd that's a buffalo wild wings and
- 41:09Speaker 1: so we and that there's two sides. I think two
- 41:12Speaker 1: sides are going to come back and play music tremendous.
- 41:15Speaker 1: They're really they may have been. They may be the
- 41:17Speaker 1: house band. So two sides and they're still together. Yeah,
- 41:21Speaker 1: and there's moments after or this might be leading into
- 41:25Speaker 1: leading into the wing challenge. That the guy on the
- 41:28Speaker 1: far right of the right of me, that's the guy
- 41:31Speaker 1: that said he goes in Indian restaurants and says, ruin
- 41:34Speaker 1: my life when they ask him how hot he wants.
- 41:36Speaker 1: That's to left to my left your the viewers right, yes,
- 41:40Speaker 1: and so that's that and they give me another one here?
- 41:43Speaker 1: What else do we have Braiden. Oh, there's McKenna. That's
- 41:47Speaker 1: McKenna Hope. She is going to be our special musical
- 41:51Speaker 1: performer this weekend at the food Court and she'll be
- 41:57Speaker 1: joined by Keegan McClain. There's Keegan clam So. This is
- 42:01Speaker 1: the young lady whose dad texted us he's a three
- 42:03Speaker 1: Guys listener and said, hey, my daughter wants to do
- 42:05Speaker 1: Remember that kind of was going to give him the
- 42:07Speaker 1: old like, yeah, your daughter wants to sen you. Ok.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Then they send us, they send us one of the
- 42:11Speaker 1: music videos of her singing.
- 42:13Speaker 2: He's really good.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Yeah, like a wowzo. So here's the deal. Food Court
- 42:18Speaker 1: goes on Friday from three until ten, McKenna Hope and
- 42:22Speaker 1: Kegy McClain and then various musicians from mon Hill's Records
- 42:27Speaker 1: that's the record label of WVU and the School of
- 42:29Speaker 1: Creative Arts. We would also like to thank our music sponsor,
- 42:34Speaker 1: you know, Rocky Simmons over their Vision homes Love Rocky
- 42:37Speaker 1: Big Fan. Yeah, so Rocky he's in. He said, I
- 42:39Speaker 1: want to take care of your guys music for you.
- 42:41Speaker 1: So those folks can get a little bit of compensation
- 42:43Speaker 1: for performing than Rev cav and Connection three oh four
- 42:48Speaker 1: will be there. And by the way, you can buy
- 42:51Speaker 1: six packs to go of the connection three h four.
- 42:53Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that or not.
- 42:54Speaker 2: It's on draft and you can buy six packs to
- 42:57Speaker 2: carry with you back to your tailgate.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Now here's a couple of other things we're adding to
- 43:01Speaker 1: the food arsenal. Wait, just see this thing. Got a
- 43:06Speaker 1: big lemon.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Excuse me this, I have seen this. This is excellent.
- 43:10Speaker 1: There's a massive lemon. It's just a huge lemon. And
- 43:14Speaker 1: they're gonna sell lemonade inside the big lemon. It's hilarious.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Hey, and you know.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Who was there scoping it all out this morning when
- 43:22Speaker 4: I drove by?
- 43:23Speaker 1: Who homeless? Well, sure he was. He doesn't miss a
- 43:26Speaker 1: bee bus. He got nowhere else to go. Finally, finally,
- 43:31Speaker 1: you've been obsessed with trying to meet the grateful bread lady. Yes,
- 43:35Speaker 1: she will be She's gonna be there. She will be
- 43:38Speaker 1: selling her stuff, sour dough bread, cookies and a limited
- 43:43Speaker 1: number of warm homemade pepperoni rolls.
- 43:47Speaker 2: I bet those are good.
- 43:49Speaker 1: And our boy Rusty from Mountain Roasting, samples of our coffee,
- 43:54Speaker 1: free samples of our coffee.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Do we have room for all this?
- 43:57Speaker 1: I don't know that's why Dave was over there.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Considered bread, Pepperoni rolls, Connection three oh four All Draft
- 44:04Speaker 2: or can all.
- 44:05Speaker 1: West Virginia mayoy?
- 44:07Speaker 3: What about Duca's Duke is going to be there?
- 44:09Speaker 1: Maybe?
- 44:09Speaker 4: Who knows?
- 44:09Speaker 1: Duke is always in my coffee? Popcorn apparel or episode
- 44:12Speaker 1: eight hundred merchandise will be there? Plus Charles Wesley Godwin's
- 44:15Speaker 1: favorite shirt, the one that he wears during concerts. Sometimes
- 44:18Speaker 1: nobody cares work harder. I think you got that line
- 44:21Speaker 1: from you. So three until ten Friday, nine thirty till
- 44:25Speaker 1: two o'clock on Saturday, Free game Day, grind samples on
- 44:29Speaker 1: Saturday to go along with Revkev's breakfast sandwiches.
- 44:32Speaker 3: What times the game three thirty?
- 44:34Speaker 2: All right, so that's a lot. So Buffalo Wild Wings
- 44:36Speaker 2: Thursday six to eight, food Court opens Friday three pm,
- 44:41Speaker 2: and then open again Saturday at what time is nine
- 44:44Speaker 2: nine ish?
- 44:45Speaker 1: Let's make that up.
- 44:46Speaker 3: I have a conflict on nine nine.
- 44:48Speaker 2: Thirty Buffalo Wild Wings six to eight, Food Court three
- 44:51Speaker 2: pm Friday, Food Court nine thirty Saturday morning. We'll see
- 44:54Speaker 2: you there, h okay, good Yeah.
- 44:58Speaker 1: I think my grandson LC's gonna become really yeah, Luca's
- 45:02Speaker 1: gonna be kind of probably gonna try. I think that
- 45:04Speaker 1: lemon is going to get him. I think he'll be
- 45:06Speaker 1: kind of obsessed with the lemon. I like that a lot.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Uh.
- 45:12Speaker 1: By the way, let's jump into these things. Now, we
- 45:14Speaker 1: had five hundred and twenty two corrections. I didn't. I
- 45:19Speaker 1: quickly read a text last show that said Rich got
- 45:21Speaker 1: beat by Apple Aachian State. That someone Rich never got
- 45:24Speaker 1: beat by Apple Achian State. Some guys said, I was
- 45:26Speaker 1: celebrating when Rich got beat by Apple Achian State. Now
- 45:28Speaker 1: I'm cheering for him. Rich never lost Apple. I started. Yeah,
- 45:32Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty one people corrected.
- 45:34Speaker 2: This said that on the last show.
- 45:36Speaker 4: I've read a text. Oh we we didn't catch it.
- 45:40Speaker 4: We should have caught it. But I mean, we don't
- 45:41Speaker 4: know his every game he's played.
- 45:42Speaker 1: So Jason who signs bewildered and bummed in Iowa. I'm
- 45:48Speaker 1: sitting here feeling stumped. As you all said, last week
- 45:53Speaker 1: was a kind of get to know you game. Not
- 45:55Speaker 1: much I can say about this week's offense. Underwhelming defense
- 45:59Speaker 1: got it going in this second half, gave us a chance.
- 46:04Speaker 1: No one looked like they could out athlete the Bobcats.
- 46:07Speaker 1: They handle us plain and simple. Every year I start
- 46:10Speaker 1: a season believing maybe it's too much to ask with
- 46:15Speaker 1: any one. New players take me off the ledge. As
- 46:18Speaker 1: a Morgantown native aged now fifty three years, I feel
- 46:22Speaker 1: like I've seen this film before. Well a lot of
- 46:26Speaker 1: what we just said. You can get better. They will
- 46:29Speaker 1: get better. Exactly what their max is I better. I'm
- 46:33Speaker 1: not gonna you know, who knows what it's going to be.
- 46:36Speaker 1: But hang, hang, hang in there, Texter, why is the
- 46:42Speaker 1: play on jahem not an ejection? Face mask, horse collar?
- 46:46Speaker 1: Same tackle should be automatic? If you ask me, that's
- 46:50Speaker 1: why those two ways of tackling have big penalties because
- 46:53Speaker 1: they cause injuries. Look what happened, Texter, yikes. Seems like
- 46:58Speaker 1: the old West Virginia penalty galore. Poor tackling, offensive line
- 47:02Speaker 1: huge weakness. We knew Navarro was aloof elusive, but poor
- 47:06Speaker 1: tackling and Navarro's athleticism was evident. Really disappointing. You guys,
- 47:12Speaker 1: keep up your good cheer. Signed by Rich Satellite Beach, Florida.
- 47:17Speaker 1: Brad Please apologize to Hoppy for dismissing his obvious observations. Well,
- 47:22Speaker 1: I mean you started the thing.
- 47:23Speaker 3: With that done right at the top of the show.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Well done, Hey guys pop from Saint Mary's. If this
- 47:29Speaker 1: was a lack of talent, I could understand, But these
- 47:32Speaker 1: guys are not tough. Ohio pushed them all over the field.
- 47:34Speaker 1: No hard edge signed. Next, Texter signs well adjusted in
- 47:41Speaker 1: West Milford. I miss the days we're losing felt like
- 47:44Speaker 1: an insult. It's become so frequent. I've got no choice
- 47:47Speaker 1: to become self actualized. I believe they will improve as
- 47:50Speaker 1: the year goes on. Rich will pull out, pull us
- 47:53Speaker 1: out of this skid toward irrelevance. But we obviously have
- 47:56Speaker 1: a few more lumps coming this season. Please Lord, beat
- 47:59Speaker 1: pit it. Texter. You don't have to read this, but
- 48:03Speaker 1: is there an actual chance we can turn this around
- 48:05Speaker 1: in a couple of years? Who can we go get
- 48:09Speaker 1: to make it better? Just looking for some hope for
- 48:11Speaker 1: the future.
- 48:12Speaker 4: You know, Tonyz and we have explained adnawledge. You remember
- 48:16Speaker 4: talk to Adnausea and how bad it was against Ou.
- 48:20Speaker 4: But you are allowed to get better. I'm not talking
- 48:22Speaker 4: about week three or Brad or even week six. But
- 48:25Speaker 4: you don't hire a coach. You don't fire a coach
- 48:27Speaker 4: after after two after two games. Okay, so he needs time.
- 48:31Speaker 4: He needs time, and I know that timeline's gotten shorter.
- 48:36Speaker 4: But is it you know, is it two years? Is
- 48:38Speaker 4: it three years?
- 48:39Speaker 3: Is it one year? But you do have to have
- 48:40Speaker 3: some patience.
- 48:41Speaker 4: You can you can be disappointed and should be with
- 48:44Speaker 4: what happening is dou but still have some patience about
- 48:47Speaker 4: what's going to happen in the future.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and remember just go back to the first
- 48:51Speaker 2: go round with rich That first year was rough guys
- 48:54Speaker 2: three and eight, and it looked bad at times. I
- 48:56Speaker 2: think we forget the loss to Temple. Yeah, I remember
- 48:59Speaker 2: how bad Temple was as a program at that point,
- 49:02Speaker 2: and you lost off. I'm not being second. That was
- 49:03Speaker 2: a home game for West Virginia. You lost a Temple
- 49:06Speaker 2: and then what was it, five seasons later, you're on
- 49:08Speaker 2: the brink of a national championship. So if you want
- 49:10Speaker 2: the positive spin hop, I agree with you.
- 49:13Speaker 1: It was. It was bad.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Just say it's a bad loss, Richard stand apparents. I
- 49:16Speaker 2: it's terrible loss. You have to you have to just
- 49:19Speaker 2: keep plowing ahead.
- 49:19Speaker 3: Yeah you do.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have to keep moving ahead.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Perryopolis Phil shares a lot of comments with everyone, but
- 49:25Speaker 1: He also says, in the future, can non Big twelve
- 49:28Speaker 1: referees for road games work for us some questionable pass
- 49:31Speaker 1: interference inference calls. We are allowed to get better and
- 49:34Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that we will. That was bad. I thought
- 49:38Speaker 1: there was an interference on Gallagher. They did call it
- 49:42Speaker 1: late on a Gallagher play over the middle. I don't
- 49:44Speaker 1: know what you're referring to another one.
- 49:46Speaker 3: It was another one.
- 49:46Speaker 2: I think was it Gallagher red or somebody late. It
- 49:50Speaker 2: was late and again somebody late where they did not
- 49:52Speaker 2: call it.
- 49:53Speaker 4: You know, again, I'm not complaining about the official officials.
- 49:56Speaker 4: I'm citing some examples where I thought that there were
- 50:00Speaker 4: questionable calls, but just just that because we also grade
- 50:02Speaker 4: the officials.
- 50:05Speaker 1: Tony brad Happy, huge fan, first time writer.
- 50:08Speaker 3: Hmm.
- 50:09Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure until I waited until it
- 50:11Speaker 1: was over, but my thoughts were written and captured throughout
- 50:13Speaker 1: the game. I understand Ohio's a phenomenal Mac team. I
- 50:17Speaker 1: understand it wasn't a gimme. Shocked and appalled it disappointed
- 50:21Speaker 1: how we lost the game. Everything that coach Rod preached
- 50:25Speaker 1: over the entire offseason of hard work and being mandatory
- 50:28Speaker 1: on every play by all players must have been abandoned.
- 50:33Speaker 1: Minus a few plays here and there, the team played uninspired, unenthusiastic, sloppy, slow,
- 50:37Speaker 1: and overall undisciplined. We all knew this was going to
- 50:41Speaker 1: be a tough season with eighty one new guys and
- 50:43Speaker 1: coaching staff. I don't think anyone envisioned this team playing
- 50:45Speaker 1: this poorly and being this fatigued and just its second game.
- 50:51Speaker 1: I want to avoid being dramatic, but I think this
- 50:54Speaker 1: was the absolute worst case scenario for Rich's second tenure here.
- 50:58Speaker 1: It's going to be extremely difficult to pick up any
- 51:00Speaker 1: remaining wins at this point with ten straight P four opponents.
- 51:05Speaker 1: That's really looking for a light at the end of
- 51:07Speaker 1: the tunnel. It's left me depressed, heartbroken, and overall feeling
- 51:11Speaker 1: foolish for believing things could go back to the way
- 51:13Speaker 1: they were pre twenty nineteen. Please share your thoughts on this.
- 51:17Speaker 4: By the way, Rich did take complete responsibility for the
- 51:19Speaker 4: massive fail.
- 51:22Speaker 3: Yeah, as he should.
- 51:25Speaker 4: But that's what I think a coach does, and doesn't
- 51:26Speaker 4: come out and say, well, this guy didn't make a play.
- 51:29Speaker 3: That guy didn't make a play.
- 51:29Speaker 4: I mean he said poor performance, poor coaching. I mean
- 51:33Speaker 4: he said that to Jed in a quick postgame.
- 51:36Speaker 1: Interview, Texter, why do I care? Why do I care
- 51:42Speaker 1: so much that this freaking game seems to have ruined
- 51:44Speaker 1: my weekend?
- 51:45Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to do that.
- 51:46Speaker 1: It's a game. It's a game. Just go be pitt
- 51:51Speaker 1: aj south Park, three guys. Disaster has struck. It's time
- 51:54Speaker 1: to call the restoration company. Rich Rod calls Panhandle Cleaning
- 51:57Speaker 1: and Restoration. He wants us put a call into the
- 52:00Speaker 1: Contragurros over there at Panhandle so if they can clean
- 52:03Speaker 1: this thing up. Texter. I try not to be vocal
- 52:07Speaker 1: about officiating, because I know it's a hard job that
- 52:09Speaker 1: I wouldn't want. But that call and non reversal on replay,
- 52:13Speaker 1: the reception on Vaughn was brutal. The game may have
- 52:16Speaker 1: been a different outcome had they got it correct.
- 52:19Speaker 4: Still have Nike plays, though you didn't make enough plays.
- 52:22Speaker 4: Even if that, even if you made that, if.
- 52:24Speaker 1: You get that reception, if you get that reception and
- 52:27Speaker 1: you punch it in and score, and then let's just
- 52:32Speaker 1: say you hold them and you get a field goal
- 52:34Speaker 1: and you win the thing twenty to seventeen, you know
- 52:36Speaker 1: what you would have done, what you would have stole
- 52:39Speaker 1: the game, So yeah, I mean that's what I mean, Like, yeah,
- 52:43Speaker 1: you could have. You can certainly make the case. And
- 52:45Speaker 1: I thought that was a catch. I did, I'll be
- 52:48Speaker 1: quite honest with you, And these officials do the absolute
- 52:51Speaker 1: best job that they possibly can. They truly do. But
- 52:55Speaker 1: the only thing I think of is like when you
- 52:58Speaker 1: got a big twelve crew and you're on the road
- 53:01Speaker 1: and it's like fifty to fifty, like, take care of
- 53:06Speaker 1: your freaking team, take care of your Really, yeah, I'm
- 53:09Speaker 1: on a fifty to fifty Like the Vaughn thing, Like
- 53:12Speaker 1: if they would have come back and said the kid
- 53:14Speaker 1: made the catch, like no one would be losing their
- 53:16Speaker 1: mind and say, tell me how he didn't make the
- 53:18Speaker 1: catch he had if the ball never touched the turf
- 53:21Speaker 1: right right then, that to me is a catch. His
- 53:24Speaker 1: foot was down, his knee was down in bounce, Like
- 53:26Speaker 1: if it's that close then and you're the freaking league,
- 53:29Speaker 1: it's your freaking guys, like, yeah, Brad.
- 53:32Speaker 3: What did you think?
- 53:32Speaker 1: Well?
- 53:33Speaker 2: I thought it was a catch. I realized my view
- 53:35Speaker 2: is going to be biased there a little bit, but
- 53:37Speaker 2: I thought it was a catch. I'm wondering those you'll
- 53:39Speaker 2: never get an answer to this. I just wonder if
- 53:42Speaker 2: if that's in the first quarter, do they change that.
- 53:45Speaker 2: Do they do they look at that and think that's
- 53:47Speaker 2: that's going to change the game. Probably, right, that's going
- 53:50Speaker 2: to change the game. And it was close. I'm not
- 53:54Speaker 2: going to change the game with a call that was close.
- 53:58Speaker 2: Never get an answer on that.
- 53:59Speaker 1: And that boys though to catch it's a catch.
- 54:02Speaker 3: I thought that.
- 54:03Speaker 2: I thought he had it.
- 54:03Speaker 3: I thought it was a I thought it was a catch.
- 54:06Speaker 4: However, it was, it was close, it was close, and
- 54:12Speaker 4: the and since the call was incomplete, was there enough
- 54:16Speaker 4: evidence to overturn. I thought he caught the ball, the
- 54:18Speaker 4: ball and touch around and his feet were in bounce.
- 54:20Speaker 3: I thought his knees. I thought it was I thought
- 54:22Speaker 3: it was close. I thought you I thought you could make.
- 54:24Speaker 2: The argument down the toes were in before the knee
- 54:29Speaker 2: came down and looked like he had it. But that's
- 54:31Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, because they ruled it incomplete and
- 54:34Speaker 2: it was such a big play in that moment because
- 54:36Speaker 2: you're going to tie the game likely, yeah, right, if
- 54:38Speaker 2: you give if you give Western that catch, I just
- 54:40Speaker 2: wonder if that plays into it. They said that's close.
- 54:43Speaker 2: We already called it incomplete. We're just stay with incomplete,
- 54:46Speaker 2: not let not left overturn.
- 54:48Speaker 1: So I go against that logic. The logic is, yeah,
- 54:50Speaker 1: go ahead and give it to him. That it's tie. Okay, boys,
- 54:52Speaker 1: play it out, it's even start. Whoever scores wins.
- 54:55Speaker 3: Brad, do you agree with Tony there should be a
- 54:58Speaker 3: big bias.
- 55:00Speaker 1: In a bias, I'm saying no, I'm not saying do
- 55:02Speaker 1: something wrong. I'm saying, if it's fifty to fifty, well
- 55:06Speaker 1: give it to your team.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Well, no, they're not supposed to know that. They're not
- 55:08Speaker 2: supposed to do that. To count your point there, I
- 55:11Speaker 2: would say this, how many times in basketball, DC officials
- 55:14Speaker 2: swallow the whistle when there's contact at the rim because
- 55:16Speaker 2: they claim they're not going to decide, not to decide
- 55:18Speaker 2: in the game. So to me, that was they there
- 55:21Speaker 2: was contact at the rim on that last play, and
- 55:24Speaker 2: they swallowed the whistle. They played off.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Maybe someone in the main office is there the Big
- 55:36Speaker 1: twelve probably would like to see that call reversed. Good
- 55:40Speaker 1: game day in here for your league. Probably wouldn't help
- 55:43Speaker 1: the wouldn't help the conference a little bit. I don't know,
- 55:45Speaker 1: just saying it's a business.
- 55:46Speaker 3: Gentlemen, I'm not sure you could have punched it in.
- 55:49Speaker 3: Who knows you're so infective.
- 55:52Speaker 1: You'd like to try. Gentlemen, I have a question. I
- 55:55Speaker 1: keep hearing all from the rich Ride apologist it's going
- 55:58Speaker 1: to take three to four years to fix things. My question,
- 56:01Speaker 1: why it's not two thousand and five. He's not going
- 56:03Speaker 1: to stack recruiting classes on top of each other and
- 56:06Speaker 1: have four years to develop people like White Slaton Schmidt.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Every year is a new team. This is his team.
- 56:11Speaker 1: What happened on the field in Ohio was his college
- 56:13Speaker 1: football full of programs that have turned it around in
- 56:16Speaker 1: a year with new coaches TCU, Indiana, Arizona State. What
- 56:19Speaker 1: am I missing? Not just you gotta I understand just
- 56:22Speaker 1: no one's saying. I mean who they're saying time. This
- 56:24Speaker 1: is not a three to four year problem. No, not
- 56:26Speaker 1: in today's world. So that's not the case.
- 56:29Speaker 3: Two is the new two is the new four.
- 56:32Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Two is the new five. Yeah,
- 56:35Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Yeah. So just the TCU, Indiana
- 56:39Speaker 1: Arizona State thing. I mean, my point to that would
- 56:43Speaker 1: be this, if it were that easy to do, then
- 56:46Speaker 1: every coach, every program that changes its coach should win
- 56:49Speaker 1: double figures in their first season. Just this doesn't happen.
- 56:54Speaker 1: And I saw that was my concern going into the year.
- 56:57Speaker 1: If it was this easy, like this can't be instant tea.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Will you just make the hot water and you put
- 57:02Speaker 1: the tea bag in there and you have tea, Like
- 57:04Speaker 1: I don't think you can just go get eighty one
- 57:06Speaker 1: new guys and like put the put the mixture in
- 57:09Speaker 1: there and go like, Okay, that's a team. Yeah, it
- 57:11Speaker 1: was gonna take time. Hey, guys, Joe Max South Parkersburg.
- 57:18Speaker 1: I'm surprised Hoppy or Brad didn't hit this on the
- 57:22Speaker 1: start of the preview show last week. Ohio, Uh five
- 57:26Speaker 1: times have had crowds twenty five thousand or more since
- 57:29Speaker 1: twenty twelve. They're five and zero in those games numbers, Brad,
- 57:33Speaker 1: they had the numbers.
- 57:34Speaker 3: How was the crowd build? Was it noisy?
- 57:39Speaker 1: I couldn't. I don't. I don't know because I was
- 57:42Speaker 1: I was in I was in a booth. Glass didn't do.
- 57:45Speaker 2: A lot to give them a lot of chance to
- 57:46Speaker 2: make noise either. That's true, right, that's part of it
- 57:48Speaker 2: that was probably severely hampered by the lack of production what.
- 57:53Speaker 3: Of golden blue and crowd?
- 57:54Speaker 1: Oh goodness, overwhelming, tremendous. You had the window shut, I
- 57:59Speaker 1: know the win was didn't open? What the windows will
- 58:03Speaker 1: not open?
- 58:04Speaker 3: No, I had to bump you out. It did.
- 58:06Speaker 1: I had a little transom window where it was slide
- 58:08Speaker 1: a microphone through. Oh man. Yeah, so the only crowd
- 58:11Speaker 1: I heard was in my headsets from the mic. But yeah,
- 58:13Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. I couldn't get a true feel.
- 58:15Speaker 1: But no, it was great. I'm a great environment. Yeah,
- 58:18Speaker 1: beautiful area. Folks there were extremely nice. They did. It
- 58:22Speaker 1: was a great job they have.
- 58:24Speaker 4: I know we're going to not make him out, as
- 58:26Speaker 4: Brad would say, the eighty four eighty five Bears, whatever,
- 58:29Speaker 4: but they do have it going.
- 58:31Speaker 1: They're doing really well.
- 58:32Speaker 4: Thirty one wins in three years, won the Bowl, won
- 58:36Speaker 4: bunch of bowl games, beat Jacksonville State last year in
- 58:39Speaker 4: a bowl game, one and one against Power four teams
- 58:43Speaker 4: to start this season.
- 58:44Speaker 1: Well, here's what they have. They got a quarterback. Yeah,
- 58:47Speaker 1: they got a quarterback. If they had Bobby Jones back
- 58:50Speaker 1: there yesterday and Bobby Jones was was a stiff and
- 58:52Speaker 1: couldn't run West Virginia, they did. They win the game,
- 58:56Speaker 1: and that's it, kid, the difference he made the plays,
- 58:58Speaker 1: he won the game, got quarterback Mark and san Diego.
- 59:02Speaker 1: We had three picks. Yeah, exactly, despite the fact that
- 59:06Speaker 1: he had three picks, Mark and San Diego. Can you
- 59:08Speaker 1: explain from a financial perspective how much a two for
- 59:12Speaker 1: one with Ohio was better for the bottom line as
- 59:15Speaker 1: opposed to buying three different home games with three group
- 59:18Speaker 1: of five opponents. Just trying to understand the risk versus
- 59:20Speaker 1: the reward. You want to do this, You want me
- 59:22Speaker 1: to do this, Okay, So the average price to bring
- 59:25Speaker 1: in a group of five team to Morgantown's probably one
- 59:29Speaker 1: point five million dollars. In fact, Ohio's going to make
- 59:32Speaker 1: two million dollars for going to Ohio State this coming weekend.
- 59:35Speaker 1: So you do these two for ones for this reason.
- 59:39Speaker 1: It's cheaper for you to do it, obviously, So that's
- 59:43Speaker 1: how it works. Let's just say two for one Ohio,
- 59:48Speaker 1: West Virginia gets three hundred thousand dollars for going over
- 59:51Speaker 1: there yesterday. When Ohio comes back over here, West Virginia
- 59:55Speaker 1: gives them three hundred thousand.
- 59:56Speaker 2: Dollars, so or even covers travel, basic, all.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: The other stuff. So the next time that OHI University comes,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: you're going to pay him the friends and family rate
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: of about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So instead
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: of paying them one five, you're basically saving seven hundred
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars by doing it that way. So
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: if you go there yesterday and you win and then
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: you beat them twice, here you go, hey, it's a
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: freaking great deal. You saved seven fifty thousand dollars. You
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: lose and you go, what the hell did you do
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: that for? Plain and simple?
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Kevin From those are the ones. They are just the
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: nightmare scenario when you lose them, Yeah, because that's when
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: you went in and bought off the sale rap. But
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: it's no returns because it's on clearance sale and he
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: didn't check it, and you got home and it had
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: one sleeve.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Sometimes you get home it was a pair of air
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Jordan once there there that somebody didn't wear and they
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: didn't know they were there. They marked for five dollars,
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: you got them, you walked out giggling.
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: And then the next time you took him home. They
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: didn't have a tongue. In the year.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: This one just didn't have a sleep or you buy.
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: I think they're air Jordan's and it's spelled j E
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: R d O in Okay.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it happened to Iowa State, right, and
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: they got they got the same deal. They got caught
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: there too. We didn't have the flu though yesterday Texans Texter.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Many reasons combined to lead to today's loss, But I'm
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: sick to death of these situations where an official review
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: takes place in West Virginia's games and they have an
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: opportunity to overturn the incorrect call, but they don't do it.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: What is the point in wasting our time with a
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: review if you can't get it right. Many reasons why
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: we lost, but this blunder, combined with a blatant hold
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: by Ohio's O line on their second TD, could have
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: changed the game in a major way. I'm not giving
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: up on Rich. I'll be there next week. Let's beat
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: the hell out of Pitt Kevin Kaiser.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: If you watch a Got to College Football, there are
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: a lot of lengthy reviews where the outcomes you go,
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: what that happens all the time?
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: Texter. A lot of people got on me about telling
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: them to get there early. Jason from Somersville, got there
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: too early. Even went to Birch River Gomart and I
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: was in my seat at two point fifteen. I met
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: some fantastic people in the parking lot when I was
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: walking into the plenty of parking. Bob, I want to
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: show you a picture here of Bob and Ashton. They
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: are missionaries in Guatemala and Braden if you could get
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: that picture up of our Guatemalan coffee. So that's Ashton
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: the Sun. Bob's the Dad West Virginians, and there are
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: missionaries in Guatemala. And Bob and his wife have been
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: there for years and he's been some big games just
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: over here. Now going to be going back. But he
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: told me a lot about the Guatemalan coffee world. Stunningly,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: stunningly and really nice people, stunningly big three guys. Listener
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: says about four families run all the Guatemala coffee.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Cartel, coffee cartel, coffee cartel.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: Coffee cartel. And he says, that's you know, that's just
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: the way it is. Like if you wanted to get
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: coffee out, you got to go through those one of
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: those four families. So you know, some of our coffees
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: from Guatemala Rusty uses. I don't know if Rusty's now
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: involved in some kind of a cartel legal, not legal
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: or anything. But you know what he told me, He's
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: gonna send us some coffee from Guatemala. Not let the
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: families know. So great mountaineers and doing doing a great,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: great work there.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Now wait a minute, you said you you saw them,
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: you got with him. I'm looking at the picture in
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: the parking lot. I don't see anything there. There's nothing
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: there except you three guys, some pavement in trees. I
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: don't see any other vehicles there.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Just a composition of the shot. Might have got there
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: little early. Also, I ran these ran into these guys here.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: Where one's the dad. The guy in the right, well,
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: he's he's young.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Wes had coffee. Notice was hoppy eighty three Hall of
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: Fame bowl? Yeah it was a it was an old
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: truck or eighty three Hall of Fame ball. Well done, Yeah,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: very good. Okay, Next one, I was, so there's a
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of cars in that lot.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: There cars in that lot.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: So those guys they got there early.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: That's why. Hey, Brad, you see who's in that picture
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: next to me? So these are the guys from in
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Cova insurance part. You see it's Ferris Farris. Ferris is too,
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: you're my right right, Yeah, I left, and that's Ferris's
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: dad on the right. And I keep trying to tell Ferris,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: keep trying to tell Ferris, get out of the sports
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: communication business and get over there with your dad, very
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: successful financial planner. Sure, and Farris isn't buying. He's going
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: to stay in a sports communications world.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: I see two other cars in that lot. There's a
- 1:04:44Speaker 4: lot of cars there, a lot of people. No, there's not,
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: there's open spaces.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: Well, it's good to see those guys. Texter, why is
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: the play on jaheem not an injection? That is at
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: That's a that's a decent, solid question, Texter. Uh, tough game,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: but hey, you're allowed to get better. For the record,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: I put my vacation requesting on Thursday after listening to
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: your episode so I could leave Parkersburg for Athens. It
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: was denied, so I was forced to leave one thirty
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon. I arrived in Athens at two, was parked
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: by two thirteen. I was in the stadium at two thirty.
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: Well, we got there early.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Texter didn't have any problem Texter postgame text traffic was
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: acceptable too. Thirty arrival. Hey guys, thinking we might need
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: some levity here. It's about ten o'clock Saturday night, after
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: the game. I'm just now pulling into my parking spot
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: at Ohio University. As the last parking attendant is leaving.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: He says, hey, buddy, you're late. The game's over, and
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: I said, nope, I'm just getting prepared for next week.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Tough week, but let's keep pushing. I think we can
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: keep building week by week. Tough day for the people
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: who like me. Chattered all week like hyenas to my
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Ohio fan. Also, Brad love my ears. Dylan Doddridge Texter, Hello,
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: my son and I had ourselves a solid three guys
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: day yesterday until well, you know, we live in Morgantown.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: Decided to get a hotel in Clarksburg Friday night so
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: we could hit Route fifty at four am to beat
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: the traffic. First stop Gomart, where I snagged a hubsize
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: cap reseas that probably took a year off of my life.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: I rolled into Parkersburg Brewing for lunch Connection three oh
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: four straight from the Fawcet, and like true philanthropists, picked
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: up a case of coasters from Jim and Michelle to
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: use it. This week's food court topped off by passing
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: a billboard after billboard of Jan Dil smiling at us
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: like she knew something we didn't. We all know what
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: happened after that, But hey, Ohio University High Atmosphere electric
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: bathroom lines were abysmo. Hopefully the last time my son
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Effort has to see West Virginia played in that stadium.
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: You know what they say about the bathroom Get there early.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. Unbelievable response. At Gomart, we I field
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: up at Gomart Salem on the way out there on
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: fifty yesterday.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: I was the experienced Salem one. That's a new one
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: on our list.
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: It's good as usual as most Gomart's smooth, smooth, as
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: smooth as glassy, smoothest glass. Make sure you get your
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: Gomart rewards card and immediately begin saving out food and fuel.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: When I pumped up yesterday, I put.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: My rewards card in there and get triple points.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: This is offering. Yeah, Saturdays, you get triple points all
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: season long, So absolutely do check that out.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't check this. I was in Friday.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: Jeremy my guy at postal Plaza there. I got a
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: couple lottery tickets there. You know that power balls up,
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: so I didn't check. I should have check. See if
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: I want, I might not have showed up today.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: To give you your apology.
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: There was a winning ticket in Texas, really in one
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: in California.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: Was here in Morgantown. So it's good that I came
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: to work today.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: I didn't say postal Plaza.
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: They say postal Plaza. Did not say postal plasm.
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know that one point and then if
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: you took the payout and then after taxes, right, you
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: probably end up with about four four hundred and fifty million.
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: No more than that, is it?
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: You'd be more than that?
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: Okay, Well check with your wife, check with a Laura.
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: I didn't get a ticket.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: The four hundred and fifty million to probably get, you
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: buy two probably be all right.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more than that. I'd be take care of it.
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: So I didn't win.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: What's that I didn't win?
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: You did not win. I'm sorry.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: We didn't buy a ticket, did you? I did, That's
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: what I just said.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: Jeremy sold it Tommy at postal Plaza.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: I know you didn't win.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Stunner try again this week. So busy week coming up.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: As we said, we start Thursday night at Buffalo Wild
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: Wings at the Suncrest Town Center. We'll be on the uh.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: We'll be there from six into eight, just fun for volity.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: Got a big, big deal going there and we'll have
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Might have a special guest, might.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Have a effort.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Here we go afforting, afforting on a special guess with
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: a contest. A couple of contests will be fun.
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: And then the big get right week coming turn around,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: you pit and everything's fine. Let's get this experience.
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: You do you do have that.
- 1:09:04Speaker 4: It does bread the way this everybody was thinking, could
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: you start Owen, could you start three? And oh now
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: you're behind the eight ball, but you do have a
- 1:09:13Speaker 4: get right game, a rivalry game, so you have This
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: is probably the team you want to be playing right now,
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: right to try to get right, get fans back into it.
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: If you win this, your you're you're right back. You're
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: That's that's a big one. Okay, that's a big one.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: A lot better. I realized you'd rather be playing Robert Morris.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'd rather fix some things.
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- 1:10:11Speaker 1: We're back on Thursday with our preview of West Virginia
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- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday, presented by Clear Mountain Bank. Thanks very
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: much for being with us, Thanks to our producer Jayden.
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: Stay well. We will see y