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Epstein Was DEMON Possessed?! Trump Makes Lemonade out of Don Lemon | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 16 · The Mark Driscoll Show

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Well, Audi, I'm Pastor Landon and welcome back to another
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episode of the Mark Driscoll Show.
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We've got a pack show for you today.
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We get into the Epstein files, Hillary Clinton really loving
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her neighbor, and then we go to Sydney Sweeney and Don Lemon.
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So buckle up. It's going to be a pack show.
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You don't want to miss any moment of it.
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Also breaking today, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche
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announcing the release of 1,000,000 more files related to
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Jeffrey Epstein. Our justice correspondent, David
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Spunt is reporting on this in Washington.
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Hi, David. Hi Aisha, you're not
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exaggerating when you say 1,000,000.
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More than 3,000,000 pages are now being posted to the Justice
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Department website. This includes more than 2000
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videos and 180,000 images. The Deputy Attorney General,
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Todd Blanche took multiple questions on the files released
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today and said most of the videos are commercial
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pornography. Not all videos featuring Jeffrey
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Epstein or shot by Jeffrey Epstein.
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Blanche says medical records, images that may show harm toward
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children and any sort of physical abuse were not released
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publicly. Some of the names mentioned in
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the files dumped today, Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Steve
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Bannon. Again, not much context when
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names are released in important to point that out.
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And we've not seen evidence that anything was criminal between
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those men. Now, context is key, but there's
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not been a lot of context. Some of the communications from
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Epstein are none too kind to this man, President Trump.
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The two knew each other back in the 90s in Palm Beach and are
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pictured together numerous times over the years.
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Today's document release includes Trump's name many
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times, but there is a note that says some of the claims were
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submitted to the FBI before the 2020 election.
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And of the documents released thus far, none have anything
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criminal damaging involving President Trump.
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Here's Blanche on criticism that he, the president's former
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personal attorney, is protecting his former client.
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Watch. It's no, we did not protect
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President Trump. We didn't protect or not protect
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anybody. I mean, I think that that we,
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that there's a, a hunger or a thirst for information that I do
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not think will be satisfied by the review of these documents.
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And and there's, it's not, there's nothing I can do about
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that. Blanche says it's possible more
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would be released if judges order more to be released, but
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he said of today's release quote, today's release marks the
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end of a very comprehensive document identification and
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review process. So, Pastor Mark, millions and
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millions and millions of documents reviewed by hundreds
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of attorneys for thousands of hours.
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It seems like the Epstein story is one that doesn't end
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regardless of what comes out or what's redacted.
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What's not redacted. It is.
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I mean, it feels like one of the most wild things to come out and
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in my lifetime, that there's this for those that may not
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fully be tracking an island where kids as young as 11 to 14
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were being trafficked for many years and many powerful people
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were coming in and out. And there's ties to presidents
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and influential business leaders and Trump and the Clintons, a
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lot of the Clintons. And the new mayor in New York,
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his mother was there with him. And is that is Epstein, his dad?
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There's all these wild rumors and speculation and it feels
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like it's something that just keeps, it's just going to keep
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going. And it's it's it's horrific.
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Like there's no argument there. What are your thoughts?
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What should be what should Christians be doing?
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Should we be obsessed with this? What, Where Where are you at?
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Yeah, Well, first of all, there's there's guilt by
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association, which is horrible. And so there's reprehensible
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evil. And we'll get to that in a
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moment. But just, you know, if there's a
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tip line and people are sending in tips and then you're
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associated with this, well, that's reprehensible.
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I mean, I, my goodness, who, who would want to be wrongfully
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associated with all of this? And so, you know, you need to be
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careful if you're a conspiracy theorist or if you just despise
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someone that you're wrongly rushing to paint with a broad
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brush when there's no evidence of wrongdoing.
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However, you know, I think there's there's two reasons why
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this just keeps living. One, we live in a day when there
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is a push against evil, a category of objective, external,
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unchanging, fixed, moral wrong. This is a day where most people
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would think that right and wrong is internal, it is subjective,
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it is changing, it is not based upon fact, but feeling.
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And so when we are forced to deal with categorical evil, even
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if we don't know God, the conscience that God gave us, it
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rises up and just says that's wrong.
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And so that's what you're seeing now.
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You're seeing people who in one breath will say that they don't
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believe in evil. And then when they see it, they
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will appeal to it and say that's wrong.
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And So what we're dealing with here is evil.
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When you see men abuse women, that's evil.
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When you see older men abuse younger underage girls, that's
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evil. When you see powerful people
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abuse powerless people, that's evil.
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When you see wealthy people abuse poor people, that's evil.
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So you're seeing multiple layers of evil.
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The second reason spiritually why this keeps sort of gaining
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momentum and it won't die. In addition to, you know, men
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treating children like chew toys, which is just evil, is
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there's a conspiracy theory element to it.
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The more information you get, people are trying to get all
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this data and trying to figure out who's the mastermind and
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what's the master plot. And this is where the conspiracy
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theorists among us, they say, see, we were right.
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And the more the data comes out, this wasn't an imaginary tale.
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This was a massive plot. The the Christian knows that
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sometimes what the world would call a conspiracy theory, we
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would call demonic. And the the word demonic
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actually appears in the Bible. In the book of James, it uses
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the word demonic. By demonic, what we mean is
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unholy spirits. So they're real beings, but not
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physical beings like you and I, but they're people with
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personalities and they're far more brilliant than we are.
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Imagine how wise intelligence capable you would be if you
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never died and you got to sort of amass knowledge over
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thousands of years and and you got to observe human behavior
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and you got to share knowledge with other beings that didn't
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die but got to amass knowledge over time.
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Imagine how just how absolutely able and capable you would be to
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manipulate human beings, you know, who had a short life span
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if you were targeted in their destruction and that was your
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primary objective and you'd been studying that species for your
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entire span since their inception.
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And so that's what we mean by demonic beings.
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We're talking about created powerful spirit beings that
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rebelled against God, and their entire allegiance is to Satan,
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their leader and head. And Jesus says they come to
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steal, kill and destroy. The Bible says that when they
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form together, they create a world system, meaning they will
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enter into economics and entertainment and politics, any
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sphere of culture to to do evil, to oppose God, to destroy
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humanity. And so some people who don't
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understand the demonic realm, they'll they'll think in terms
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of conspiracy theories. As a Christian, you just look at
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and you go, that's demonic. Now, maybe there wasn't a
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brilliant architect in so far as a human being behind all of this
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plotting, but there was a brilliant spiritual architect
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behind it all. So let me let me go to a sort of
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a prophetic mind melt verbal process.
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So in the Old Testament the constant opposition to God's
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people was 2 demon gods that were the most powerful.
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They were called Bail and Astra. Bail was a male God.
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Astra was a female God. When you see Bail Berath or some
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Bail slash something, that's a bail that's over a region.
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So in addition to the highest ranking bail, there were
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regional bales. Astra is also called Ishtar or
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Venus, and so the artwork for Astra is very lewd.
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It is considered by most to be the most ancient pornography.
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It is very lewd in pornographic. So Astra is this seductive,
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sensual, female pornographic demonic spirit Bale.
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He is depicted as power, wealth and perversion.
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And so in Exodus, when they made the golden calf, that's a Bale.
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A Bale is a bull. It's a calf today on Wall Street
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outside is a bail. It's a bull.
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And when we have a bull market, what is a bull?
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A bull is strong and powerful and A and a bull is success and
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a a bull is, you know, a tyrant. And so, you know, the constant
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battle in the Bible is the real God against Bail and Astra.
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And the nations that worship Bail and Astra, they have
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temples. And in these temples they have,
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they have illicit sexuality of every sort or kind.
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And they have temple prostitutes.
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Most of these temple prostitutes are slaves.
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These temple prostitutes, slaves are male and female and they're
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minors and they're sex trafficked.
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And and so if you look at it, Jeffrey Epstein, he is the human
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physical manifestation of Bale, wrote her name down just Lane
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Maxwell is the human physical manifestation of Astra.
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What they are doing on Epstein Island is the equivalent of a
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Pagan temple. And what's happening there is
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they are functioning as a high priest and a high priestess for
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Bale and Astra. And what they are doing is
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demonic. And the victims are people who
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are being slave traded, sex traded as temple prostitutes.
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So what they are doing is repeatedly condemned in the Old
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Testament, and it is constantly the great seducer of God's
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people and the great temptation of God's people.
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And so when we hear that Epstein was a powerful man.
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Well, I looked that up. Yeah, I, I looked it up.
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Nobody really understands how he got all his wealth.
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Like he just, he was a college dropout, falsified documents to
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become a teacher, a prep school, and then kind of off to the
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races, became one of the wealthiest men in America.
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But it it's very unclear how that happened.
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Demonic you. You don't need to come up with
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some source, just Satan. Yeah.
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You know, reverse blessed him everything God creates Satan
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counterfeits Satan blessed him. He he is a he is a servant of
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darkness. And Baal is the demon God of
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wealth and money and power and possessions.
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And we just heard that most of what they found is pornography.
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I'm just telling you that that he is the manifestation of the
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demon God Baal just slain. Maxwell is the manifestation of
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the demon God Astra. And everything they're doing in
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a spiritual sense, fits within an Old Testament Canaanite.
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Cult. Epstein Island fits within the
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qualifications of temple prostitution and they are
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functioning as a high priest and a high priestess and what they
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are doing is slavery and temple prostitution. 100.
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Percent. And so, you know, the opposite
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of Christianity is paganism. And So what you're seeing is
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you're seeing paganism with an airplane and a video camera, but
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you're seeing ancient demonic paganism manifest itself with an
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airplane and a video camera. And now we're seeing a data dump
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on the Internet and what people are experiencing is the the
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beginning of the unveiling of evil and demonic work that the
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Bible speaks about repeatedly. And this was even in the New
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Testament where in Corinthians, Paul speaking out against the
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temple prostitution in Corinth. And so in Corinth, they had the
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same thing. They had a temple that was like
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Epstein Island where it was prostitution and temple
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prostitutes and people are being sex traded and trafficked and it
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includes minors and it's abusive and it's all spiritual and
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demonic. And so, but but let's just say
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this, you know, if you are a person who is, you know,
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watching pornography, going to strip clubs, you are not guilty
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of the same evil, but you're part of the same problem.
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And that is feeding an entire industry that is evil and
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demonic. Yeah, yeah.
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And I I wanted to ask you for the Christian right now we look
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at the Bible you those those examples are spot on.
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I was looking Sodom and Gomorrah.
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There was child prostitution things happening.
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Lot offered his virgin daughters up and then God dealt with that
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that land. And then Ahab Jezebel, same
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thing. Temple prostitution, God dealt
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with them. What, what is our role as
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Christians? It feels like there's all these
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conspiracy Christians, they've accepted Candace Owens in their
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heart, they've tapped to the Epstein files on their forearm.
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Like what? What is our role as a Christian
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with all these weird conspiracies that the Internet
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is putting right in our face? Like, I, I don't, I don't know,
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back in Ahab and Jezebel's time, the average Christian couldn't
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have read all the files about what Ahab and Jezebel did.
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But we're we're getting to right now and it, it's consuming
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people. Yeah, well the key is to consume
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that which is good and true. The Bible says take every
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thought captive in obedience to Christ.
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And so whatever you're studying at the end, you want to bring it
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to Jesus and the language there it's similar to in an ancient
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war, you would take a captive, you'd put the spear or sword
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under their throat and you'd bring it to the highest ranking
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commander to interrogate everything you're studying,
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learning, hearing, consuming. You literally need to bring it
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to Jesus. And and so at the end of the
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day, if your thoughts don't end with I'm bringing this to Jesus
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Christ, I'm bringing this to the word of God and I'm going to,
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you know, test this by the word of God, then what you're going
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to end up being is a fearful person.
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And the entire point of conspiracy theories is to cause
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you to be fearful. Yep.
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And you can't be a person who is healthy and driven continually
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by fear. The Bible says that God has not
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given us a spirit of fear, but a power in love and sound mind.
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And so fear is a demonic spirit, and it will come on us.
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But if you live in, you know, negative news and conspiracy
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theories and data dumps, it won't just come on you.
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The spirit of fear will get in you.
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And this is where people have depression, they have anxiety,
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they manifest physical problems and, and stress.
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And it's not good for you. And so, you know, the truth sets
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you free. And so it's, it's about living
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in God's word, It's about living in God's spirit.
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It's about living in God's presence because you can spend
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all of your time looking at what Satan is doing, or you can spend
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some of your time looking at what Satan is doing and then
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spend the rest of your time being busy about God's work.
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Yeah, because I could spend my whole day online arguing and
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fighting and researching, or I could be sharing the gospel of
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Jesus Christ. I could be leading people to
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Christ. I could be helping build up men
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and marriages and families and helping strengthen people you
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know and their families for generational legacy and doing
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something positive and constructive.
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It's so interesting you're echoing.
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Last night I was setting by the fire with Ashley and reading
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screw tape letters together, and he talks about the best way to
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distract a Christian is to make him an extremist, want either a
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pacifist or a patriot. And we can get so into the
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extreme where we live in this fear that we have no business to
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be in and we have nothing to do with that.
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Well, if it's the demonic, the Holy Spirit's going to have to
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deal with that. Exactly.
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And I mean we see time and time and again in the Bible.
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God deals with it every time, and God will tell you if you're
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supposed to deal with it. If you're supposed to be Elijah
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in a moment, he's going to empower you and position you to
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do that. The average suburban mom right
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now isn't positioned to deal with like.
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Whatever the conspiracy of the month is or whatever the rage of
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the day is. Totally.
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And that's where all of a sudden we see a not a suburban mom, but
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a, a gal in a Honda Pilot run over an ICE officer.
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And it's like, what are you doing?
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This has nothing to do with you. Like people are just, they want
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to, they want to do something and it, it, it feels dangerous.
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It feels like we're we're missing the gospel.
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We're getting off track. You were just echoing the screw
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And Speaking of people that are off track, one of our favorite
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women in the whole world, yes. And you thought I was going to
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say Candace Owens? I'm not going to no, I'm not
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going to Hillary Clinton. So.
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Pants suit Pants suit Pants suit.
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It's so funny. We we studied her.
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I was in a Who's we? I'll get Community College.
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I was in an interpersonal communications class, so like
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non verbal communication. And we studied her in that class
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because when she was first lady, she was actually like a really
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sweet gal. Like, she was not a good
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communicator. She was very loving to her
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husband and like, warm and soft spoken.
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And then she got trained and turned into what she is now.
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Yeah. And then it's like her husband
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stopped liking her or something. Anyways, but she wrote an
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article titled Maga's War on Empathy and she calls out Doug
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Wilson Ali Bestuckey arguing that toxic empathy is a sin.
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So she just basically talks about.
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Was this in the Atlantic? Yeah, yeah.
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It's like 6000 words obviously not written by her and.
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When she said in there too that they were not good Christians
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because they didn't support LGBTQIA in the alphabet suit.
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They're not loving their neighbor.
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Yeah. So she's just taking it and
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like, yeah, I was taking them. Well, like, hey.
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Bill's good at loving his neighbor.
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I mean, is that what we're going with?
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You know what I'm saying? So.
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I don't. Know there's that.
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Repeatedly. Yeah.
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Hard to recover from that one, but so is empathy a sin like.
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Can be anything, can be a sin. And so there's a book, it's
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called Failure of Nerve. It's by Friedman, and it's very
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interesting. And in it he explains why
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institutions, organizations, they always tend to go left and
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South. And I'll summarize it for you.
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He says that first of all, people like to herd together.
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This is why pool, you know, fishes go into schools or pods
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or herds or flocks or groups. You know, people like to be
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together. There's safety in numbers.
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You like to be in a group. So when you come together in a
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group, the question is, well, how do we all stick?
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This is where like diversity is our strength.
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It's like, no, it's not. Strength is our strength.
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You know what I'm saying? Like five, you know, 80 LB
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vegetarians do not overcome 4 Navy Seals.
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You know, diversity is not your strength.
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Strength is your strength. So if we're if, if the goal is
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all together, we're going to hang together, we're going to be
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a group. Now the question is, well, what
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if, what if one person is the weakest member of the group?
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Well, now what we need to do is we need to lower the standard
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for the group so that we don't lose a member of the group.
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And so, so now what we do, we reduce the the standard by which
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to be part of the group. Well, now there's another person
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that is really weak and they don't fit the group.
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So now we're going to lower the standard again.
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So in the name of compassion and empathy and never rejecting or
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losing anyone, we keep lowering the standard to be in the group.
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Now you end up with people that can't do a push up and they're
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in the military. Now you end up with people who
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can't read, but they graduate from high school.
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Now you end up with people who can't land a plane, but there
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are traffic controllers. That's exactly how this happens.
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And and the point is then everybody like, but we have so
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much empathy and compassion and say, but does that produce the
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best, the best environment for human life and flourishing?
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Wouldn't it be better to continually raise the standard
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of expectation to pull people up?
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Wouldn't it be more loving if people were more intelligent?
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Wouldn't it be better if people were more productive?
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Wouldn't it be better if people had better mental health?
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And if the terms by which you got into the group or or a
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leader in the group were constantly increasing rather
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than decreasing? So in the name of empathy and
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compassion, we're going to self destruct as a species.
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You reach the point where it's like, this is where even with
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the concept of like completely open borders, it's like we need
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to, we need to get rid of the borders and now we need to let
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people in who aren't going to contribute to the society.
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And now we need to let people in who are criminals are going to
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actively work against the civilization.
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You're like, OK, how is that loving?
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How is that helpful? It's not.
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Wouldn't it be better if, for example, we said, hey, to come
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into the country, you need to bring a value, you need to have
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a, a job, you need to have a skill, you need to contribute
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something that makes us better and, and pulls us all up so that
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human life and flourishing. And so to me, I, I don't, I
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don't accept the notion that love means that we all
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accommodate the least healthy person.
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Love means we set up the most healthy person, the most
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effective person, the most productive person for success.
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And that person helps pull the rest of us up to human life and
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flourish. And so this is where you get
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even people with mental health, like gender dysphoria, you're
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like, OK, well, they have gender dysphoria.
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They have mental health. Well, let's not make them feel
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bad. Well, as soon as we say it's OK
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to have mental health, next thing you know, everybody's got
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mental health. And now everybody's got gender
26:34
dysphoria. And as soon as you say, you know
26:36
what? That's mental health.
26:38
Next thing you know, people are getting healthy and less people
26:41
have mental health. Well, in the name of empathy and
26:44
compassion, isn't it better if less people have mental health?
26:49
So I just, I reject the entire narrative of the left.
26:53
I'm a pastor, right? I, I am, you know, I'm not a
26:57
mercenary. I do hospital visits.
26:59
I, I do weddings, I do funerals. I'm a pastor.
27:03
I care very deeply about people. Otherwise I'd go get a different
27:06
job. But to think that you know the
27:09
most loving thing you can do is make everyone suck, That's not
27:13
loving. For sure, for sure.
27:18
To follow that up, I, I looked up the top 10 times that Hillary
27:22
Clinton didn't love her neighbor.
27:24
And I just read those to you and get your reaction at the end of
27:27
this. She called Trump supporters the
27:31
basket of deplorables at a Manhattan fundraiser.
27:36
She called Trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobic,
27:38
xenophobic, Islamophobic, 10s of millions of Americans and just
27:42
said they're irredeemable super predators.
27:45
In 1966 she called a young gang member young gang members super
27:50
predators with no conscience and no empathy who needed to be
27:53
brought to heal. Laughing about a child rape
27:57
case, 1975 defended a man who raped a 12 year old girl on
28:01
tapes. Later laughed while recalling
28:04
how she got him off of it destroying Bill's accusers.
28:08
She ran the bimbo eruptions operation aid saying we have to
28:12
destroy her story. I was 35 years old when Bill
28:16
Clinton raped me and Hillary tried to silence me.
28:18
I'm 73 years old and it never goes away.
28:21
What difference does it make for Americans dead in Benghazi?
28:26
Asked what attack happened and she said it doesn't matter for
28:31
Americans don't matter. Put coal miners out of business.
28:35
Number 62016, we're going to have to put a lot of coal miners
28:39
out of business and coal companies out of business.
28:41
Entire communities, entire cities.
28:43
That would just be collateral damage.
28:46
Number 7A, sniper fire lie. She claimed she landed under
28:51
sniper fire and ran out with our heads down.
28:53
Video showed her calm, calmly greeted by a child with flowers.
28:56
Later admitted I was just saying things I knew that weren't the
28:59
case. She said we are the president.
29:01
When asked about releasing documents, she said I'm not
29:04
going to have some reporters pawing through our papers, we
29:07
are the president. Basically the pattern is she
29:10
claims champion women destroyed women who accused her husband,
29:13
She claims to champion children, laughed about getting a child
29:16
rapist off, claims to champion being the working class, she
29:19
called him deplorable, celebrated the job losses.
29:22
She claims to value truth and she fabricated war stories.
29:26
Well, and she fabricated the entire Russia gate hoax and
29:30
tried to swing an entire election and steal leadership of
29:36
an entire nation. And I would say it is not loving
29:40
your neighbor to falsely accuse them of high crimes and steal
29:45
the most powerful leadership role on planet earth.
29:48
I mean, this is where the plank spec game gets really fun.
29:52
She's awful. You read her resume and you're
29:55
like, yeah, oh gosh. Yeah, no, I mean, she's not
29:58
Mother Teresa. Like if Mother Teresa was saying
30:01
this, I would give it AI would give it a second thought.
30:05
But so in this as well, let me just give a shout out to to Doug
30:10
Wilson. So she went after Doug Wilson
30:12
and who? Else Allie Beth Stuckey.
30:14
Allie Beth Stuckey. I tell you, I don't.
30:16
I don't really go on the Internet much and read much, but
30:18
she's awesome. Yeah.
30:20
She's insightful, She's bright, she's feminine.
30:23
She's interesting. I don't know if she likes me,
30:26
but I like her and I hope that she gets increased platform and
30:31
attention and what I'm seeing I'm liking.
30:34
So I want to encourage her and honestly can say I'm praying for
30:37
her. And then Doug Wilson, I've known
30:40
for a long time. He was here recently.
30:42
Congratulations, Pastor Doug, if Hillary Clinton takes a shot at
30:47
you, you're. Doing something right.
30:49
Good. I'm preaching through the 10
30:51
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30:55
I got to confess, I had to repent of that.
30:57
I was like, I wish I was at the point where Hillary Clinton
31:01
would take her Nerf gun and take a shot at me.
31:03
That's pretty awesome. Congratulations. 100%.
31:06
Yeah, Congratulations, Pastor Doug.
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We are going on to Don Lemon. So this week, as promised by the
32:37
Trump DOJ. Clinton Lemon.
32:41
I know, oh I know. We're having a really fun day.
32:45
This is exactly what you wanted to.
32:46
Do sanitizer in the middle of the desk.
32:48
Yeah, it's, it's, it's gross. No conversations I'd rather
32:52
have. OK.
32:55
They promised they would arrest him after storming churches in
32:58
Minneapolis, causing a big scene.
33:01
And here's what he had to say about it.
33:04
I will not stop now. In fact, there is no more
33:11
important time than right now, this very moment, for a free and
33:16
independent media that shines a light on the truth and holds
33:19
those in power accountable again.
33:22
I will not stop now. I will not stop ever.
33:27
Last night, the DOJ sent a team of federal agents to arrest me
33:30
in the middle of the night for something that I've been doing
33:34
for the last 30 years and that is covering the news.
33:39
The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects that work
33:42
for me and for countless of other journalists who do what I
33:46
do. I stand with all of them and I
33:50
will not be silenced. So arrested.
33:55
Praise God, but conservative activists are upset online
34:01
because the DOJ is weaponizing the FACE Act.
34:03
Many believe the FACE Act should be abolished because it hurts
34:06
the pro-life movement and they think that he may retaliate,
34:11
that the left will retaliate and use this against us in the
34:13
future. So the back story back story is
34:18
Minneapolis has lost its mind. Dumpster fire.
34:21
Dumpster fire. And so it was believed that one
34:26
of the associate pastors at the church was somehow connected to
34:30
ICE. And so protesters showed up and
34:33
interrupted the church service and filmed it.
34:37
Apparently that pastor wasn't even there.
34:40
So it's like you're not even, you're not even opposing the guy
34:43
you came to oppose. Security didn't do anything at
34:48
the church. They took over the service.
34:50
Everybody laughed. They shut the church down, which
34:53
is wild. Don Lemon, you know, was
34:57
embedded with the protesters, the agitators.
35:01
And, you know, he says he's a journalist, but I'm not sure he
35:04
was representing any news outlet.
35:07
So yeah, I think so. Yeah.
35:09
You're just you're a dude with a notepad that he.
35:11
Was fired from CNN, which you got to be pretty bad to get
35:14
fired from CNN. No, if you're unemployed, I'm
35:16
not sure you get to say journalist.
35:18
Yeah, he like launched his own show like 3 days ago.
35:23
Yeah. So I mean, I'm not sure that
35:25
qualifies as a journalist. I actually went to the Edward R
35:27
Murrow School of Communication and Study Journalism.
35:30
If you don't have any credentials, I'm not sure you're
35:33
actually a journalist. And what he, and So what they're
35:36
talking about is the FACE Act is the freedom of access to clinic
35:41
entrances. And so it was created basically
35:44
for Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics that pro-life
35:47
activists can't block the entrance to the clinic.
35:51
And here we've got something where they've not just blocked
35:55
the entrance to the church, they've taken over the church
35:58
and they've walked in and taken over the church.
36:00
What would happen at Trinity Church if this happened?
36:02
You don't want to know man, so like.
36:04
A gay man couldn't take over. The church, our biggest ministry
36:07
is men's. I mean, it's, it's all lifted
36:09
trucks and Cowboys and concealed carry.
36:12
I mean, it's, it's not going to be a good day.
36:16
And so, yeah, I won't say it'd be a bad day.
36:21
And so where the conservatives are concerned is, you know, is
36:26
this going to then be turned around by the next
36:29
administration to, to do harm against pro-life activists and
36:35
advocates to peaceably protest against abortion clinics?
36:39
Well, I would say #1 just because we're nice to them
36:43
doesn't mean they're going to be nice to us.
36:45
To mean that's that's an entire, that's a fallacy that premises
36:49
doesn't matter. I mean it, it just doesn't
36:51
matter. Let's say the Gavin Newsom, God
36:54
forbid someday is our. They don't play by fair rules.
36:56
Yeah, it doesn't matter if we're nice today or not.
36:59
He's not going to love God's people, you know, anyways.
37:05
But ultimately this is an issue. In my opinion, as a pastor, this
37:11
is the church's responsibility because what people may not
37:15
understand, a church is private property.
37:19
Therefore, this is trespassing. And it's like a religious hate
37:23
crime. It is a religious hate crime and
37:26
and as a result, we do have freedom of religion and freedom
37:30
of assembly. And so it is your right to have
37:35
private property and assemble and worship freely.
37:40
I mean, this is this is bedrock America.
37:43
And so any church that does not secure these rights, my
37:48
encouragement to all pastors is do you have a security team and
37:52
do you have a security plan? And your security plan needs to
37:56
start thinking about security checkpoints that begin right at
38:02
the perimeter of your property. How do people get into your
38:06
property? Are there security choke points
38:08
and checkpoints to get onto your property?
38:10
Is security vetting people? Do you know that people are safe
38:14
and they come with good intentions?
38:17
If there is an agitator, is there a way to remove them?
38:20
If you're a loudmouth, do you have a police officer on site in
38:26
uniform with a patrol car, which helps discourage certain people
38:30
from doing certain things? Does your security team know how
38:34
to write up a no trespass and just say, you know what, this is
38:38
private property and you can't come in and take over our church
38:40
service and you're not welcome here anymore.
38:43
And so they don't teach you any of this in Bible college or
38:46
seminary because nobody ever tries to take over a Bible
38:50
college or seminary. And this should be part of
38:53
leadership training because in an activistic age, in a social
38:57
media age, it's it's important. Praise God, these people didn't
39:01
come in armed. From what I saw, that would have
39:05
been devastation because there wasn't any security plan to deal
39:10
with them. And there's a big misconception,
39:13
I believe, on what a pastor supposed to be.
39:16
A pastor was called a shepherd, and a shepherd is much closer to
39:19
a cowboy than it is whatever the heck most of these churches
39:23
have. So as a shepherd, you're called
39:25
to protect the flock, and that's that's what protecting the flock
39:29
looks like for you. Yeah, we've talked about this a
39:32
lot. I mean, we're both pastors.
39:34
So in the Bible, you know, you look at David, you know, you're
39:38
like, why is David such a good warrior?
39:40
And take down Goliath? He was a shepherd.
39:43
Well, apparently he's also a good, he's a good warrior.
39:47
And so a Good Shepherd. They're they're protecting the
39:51
sheep because they're, they're willing to fight the predators.
39:56
And so, you know, David, he's out there, He can fight a lion.
39:59
You know, you ask yourself today, the average associate
40:02
pastor that went to a Bible college, you know, could he
40:06
fight a lion? He's like, he probably couldn't
40:08
fight a Bunny. Yeah, a woman or anyone he's
40:12
going to get taken advantage by about everyone.
40:13
What we've done. We've we've, we've, we've, we've
40:16
unleashed therapists into the clergy.
40:19
And they're not Cowboys. Maybe Cowgirls.
40:23
Maybe Cowgirls? Defensive to to most Cowgirls.
40:25
But yeah, they're not Cowgirls. I take that back and I apologize
40:27
to all the Cowgirls. So what we've done, we've taken
40:31
really nice soft men who are basically therapists and we've
40:35
unleashed them into ministry. And that's that's not the
40:39
biblical concept at all. You know, Paul says, you know,
40:43
he literally says, he says I fought wolves in Ephesus.
40:48
And so you know, when it when it talks about spiritual warfare,
40:52
it's talking about being able to do the job of a shepherd and
40:56
that is protect the sheep by fighting the predators.
41:00
And so, you know, there are spiritual predators and there
41:04
are physical predators. There are dangerous people who
41:06
come into the church. They want to hurt your women.
41:09
They want to get into your kids ministry and damage your
41:12
children. And, and, and the Bible says in
41:15
Galatians, they come in to bite and devour.
41:17
It actually uses savage language.
41:20
And so as much as we can argue over all the the face act and
41:24
all of that, my encouragement would be at the local church
41:26
level. Shepherd, you're responsible for
41:29
your flock and do you have, do you have a bunch of security
41:33
that understand that it's their job to make sure that that flock
41:36
is protected? 100% yeah.
41:39
Don Lemon is a we talked about this before, but he's a like a
41:43
gay activist, like. He but he says he's a Christian.
41:47
You can't be a Christian and gay.
41:49
No full stop. I know that.
41:51
I was just looking it up. Pre 2003 we had sodomy laws.
41:55
I didn't even know that because I was a kid at that point, but.
41:57
I don't want to enforce them. I don't want to be the guy.
41:59
Out, I know. OK.
42:01
But in Idaho you could get life in prison.
42:06
So I think we just need to bring back the sodomy laws and then we
42:09
wouldn't even have to deal with people like Don Lemon.
42:12
They'd be in prison. Yeah.
42:13
Well, I mean, but again, it's the enforcement.
42:19
It's like paper here. I don't want that Job 123 not
42:24
it, but but what we're seeing here, we're seeing a guy who
42:28
claims to be a Christian who is gay, who who then takes over a
42:34
church service. And when he got out, he actually
42:36
quoted a Bible verse. So this is this is the
42:40
deception. At 100% and I think just for
42:46
complete clarity, can you be a gay Christian?
42:49
So you can be a Christian who struggles with any kind of sin,
42:55
but if you were a Christian that will not repent of a sin but
42:59
adopts it as a lifestyle, then what you have decided is that
43:03
your lifestyle is more important than your Christ and then that
43:07
makes you non Christian. In the same way if it's like is
43:10
like, is there such a thing as a lifelong Christian adulterer
43:13
that never repents? No, because the heart of
43:16
Christianity is repentance of sin.
43:19
And so if you know the Bible says in first shot, he who
43:23
habitually practices sin is not born of God and does not know
43:26
God. Does a Christian struggle with
43:28
sin? We all struggle with sin.
43:30
Whether you're gay or straight or single or married, whatever
43:33
your thing is, we all struggle with sin.
43:36
So there's a Christian struggle with sin.
43:38
Yes. If you don't struggle with sin,
43:40
you surrender to it, you don't fight it, and you never repent
43:43
of it. Well, then by definition, you're
43:45
not a Christian because the Christian is the one that
43:47
repents of sin to be born again and then has a lifetime fight
43:51
and struggle against the flesh and sin to grow in holiness.
43:55
And anybody who says, you know, I just have, I, I have gay sex
43:59
for Jesus. It's like, oh Gee.
44:01
I'm a murderer for Jesus. I'm a a robber for Jesus.
44:05
I'm a. I'm an adulterer for Jesus.
44:06
Like no, no go and sin no more, is what Jesus says.
44:10
Yeah. That's a great answer.
44:12
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Something a little more light hearted, maybe a little less
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46:13
Sydney Sweeney, Pastor Mark. Yeah.
46:15
We're just we're, we're really. In the in the gutter, of course,
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we're living in this. Have to think, Yeah.
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She's in charge. She, she made that very clear.
46:57
She said she's got a team of bad ass women around her and that's
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intimidating the guys. But this, this highlights a
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cultural A cultural problem for us right now.
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One in three women between the age of 30 and 49 are single.
47:14
We have a lot of women that are prioritizing career over family.
47:19
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47:23
husband, having children. There's a real lie of feminism
47:26
that's just sweeping the nation and women want to buy into it.
47:32
It is wild. And they sit on social media and
47:34
attack men all day. What?
47:39
What would you tell your daughter?
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Say Ashley didn't get married. She's 27 and she's struggling
47:45
with. No, no, I I just want a career.
47:47
I just want to work hard. I don't need a man.
47:49
I don't. I'm good.
47:51
What? What would you how would you
47:53
love your daughter in this situation?
47:54
So you're looking at so the GSS, the General Social Survey and
48:00
Gallup. So the General Social Survey is
48:02
considered kind of the gold standard for social data.
48:07
And that along with Gallup is saying that this is the most
48:10
progressive, liberal feminist generation of women in the
48:15
history of the United States of America.
48:17
So the most wildly left-leaning, meaning they don't want to get
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married, they don't want to have kids, they like abortions.
48:25
They're all Democrats, they're all woke gone.
48:31
That same data is saying that this is the most conservative
48:34
generation of young men in 50 years, thanks in large part to
48:39
my friend who I miss, Charlie Kirk.
48:42
And so you've got this wide chasm of guys who want to get
48:47
married and women who don't. They want to have kids and women
48:49
who don't, and men who want to have a family and women who
48:52
don't, and men who want to lead their family and women who don't
48:55
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48:59
you've got yourself a situation. It's hard to find a wife who's
49:03
not, you know, crazy. So for young women #1 if you are
49:13
always going to be the boss babe, please don't get married.
49:19
And if you want to be the boss babe who gets married and is
49:23
this wildly independent career chick and have kids, you're
49:28
going to ruin that kid. You're going to ruin that kid.
49:31
You will not be a present mother.
49:33
You will not be a prioritized mother.
49:37
That kid is not going to get from their mother what they need
49:42
from a mother. And so do the kid a favor and
49:45
don't get married and don't have the kid.
49:48
If you want to be a mother, then make that your priority.
49:50
And if you don't want to make it a priority, don't be a mother.
49:55
In addition, if you marry a man who is willing to let you be the
49:58
boss babe, you will grow very tired of that man very quickly.
50:05
He will feel like a pet or a little brother.
50:08
You will have no respect for him, You will not have any
50:11
regard for him. You'll actually grow disdain for
50:15
him. And pretty soon you'll just lose
50:19
any attraction to him. You're not going to want to
50:20
sleep with that guy because you're not going to have any
50:23
real honor or regard for that guy.
50:27
And any guy who lets you be the boss babe, he's just, he's a
50:31
very weak, probably broken beta male.
50:36
And what he's going to do then is he is going to let you go to
50:40
work and make a lot of money. And then he's going to run
50:43
around on you because while you're being the boss, babe,
50:47
he's going to go find some gal. And he's going to do what soft
50:52
beta males do. And he's going to go find some
50:55
married chick that isn't going to divulge his secret and is
50:59
going to break up his sexual tryst.
51:02
And he is going to be sleeping around on you and he's going to
51:06
let you go to work and make all the money and be the boss babe.
51:10
And then he's going to be the guy who goes to the gym and is
51:13
sleeping around and letting you pay for his Playboy lifestyle.
51:16
And that's what you're going to end up with.
51:19
And if you think that's not the way it plays out, I've been,
51:22
I've been a pastor 30 years. I'll just tell you, I got more
51:25
than enough sample survey to just tell you that's how it
51:28
works. And if you don't, yeah, if
51:31
you're not willing to make an adjustment to get married,
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you're too selfish to be married.
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Marriage is about serving. And it, it feels like, like if
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you were counseling someone like this, you're 27, she's worth 40
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to 50 million. Her career is just doing this.
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And I mean, we see it with Taylor Swift, too.
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You just keep riding that train, but you miss your window.
51:54
You miss your window to get married, find a nice guy, settle
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down, have a. Family.
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The the things that are meaningful, money is not
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meaningful. She was raised in a devoutly
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Christian household at a local church with great parents.
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You want that like that. That's ultimately what she's
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going to want. But she might win her window.
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She might be 4045 fifty before she realizes that.
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But she would probably have to make a gigantic change in her
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life, like take a step back from all of this to give enough space
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for a guy to come in into her life that's actually a good
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leader and a good man. When I met Ashley, it was crazy.
52:34
She was, I think she had three full time jobs and she was
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serving like 4 different ministries and she was a boss
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babe. She was rolling.
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She's a driver. She's a driver and so unhappy,
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deep down, very unhappy. But on the outside people would
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say she was happy, successful. She's what all the girls looked
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up to. She had a master's degree from
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the Barrett Honors College with honors.
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And she's trilingual and I mean she's.
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She's awesome. She's.
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Accomplished. She's smart.
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She's capable. Very smart.
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The happiest I've ever seen her is hanging out with our little.
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Boy 100%. The most meaningful thing in her
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life is that little boy and I, I'd be devastated for a gal to
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miss that and for a husband to miss that, a family to miss
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that. It's not demeaning to a woman.
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It's the highest, most amazing thing they could ever do is
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bring a child into this world and then teach and disciple it.
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What a gift. But we've we've, we've put that
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on the bottom shelf. That's not important, that's not
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valuable, that's not exciting. Being a boss babe and making a
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bunch of money and be around other girls that get in your
53:39
Instagram comments and tell you how awesome are is the end zone.
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But that doesn't last. No, and and and for women that
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haven't had a kid, like he's like, I don't need it.
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Well, you've never you've never met your kid.
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You don't know what you're missing.
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You've, you've not, you know, you've not grown old with your
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husband. You know, like Grace and I met
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March 12th, 1988. I mean, we've been together
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since March 12th, 1988. We're coming up on what is that
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38 years together. You know it's.
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You don't know what you're missing because you've never had
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it. Yeah, the one, the one thing I
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have in common with Sydney Sweeney is we all, we both like
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to work on old forts. And yesterday I was working last
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night, I was working on an old Ford truck and Indy came out
54:24
with a screw gun and put it into the side of the truck.
54:27
And it was like the best moment. It was hilarious.
54:29
Like, yeah, it's fine. Go work in your garage by
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yourself. She actually works on Broncos
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and Mustangs. And it's it's cool.
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But doing it with your son or your daughter, Oh, my gosh.
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So much fun. Such a blast.
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The most joy I could have is seeing my son light up laughing,
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belly laughing, because he did something to Daddy struck.
54:48
And it's like, man, there's there's nothing better.
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But you don't know that yet. Like you don't know what you
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don't know and you can't know it until you have it.
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And it really just feels like a demonic lie that's being given
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to all the young women in this world.
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On to when you reach a point of 40 or $50 million, it's like, I
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mean literally invest that, fall in love, have a family and you
55:15
could still do projects and things on the side or what have
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you. But I mean, do you want to be a?
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Do you want to be a sex object or do you want to have a family?
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That's what's, that's what's tough.
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She's a conservative, allegedly Christian, and she's a sex
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object that that is what she is in media.
55:32
She makes jokes about it. The the tag lines on the
55:34
commercials are jokes about it. No respectable man wants to
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marry that. No, I I mean there is, there is
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nothing statistically. This is just evidentiary.
55:46
The thing that makes people happy is God and a family.
55:52
Literally. I mean, this is all of human
55:56
history, all the data proofs. You have Jesus and a family,
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you're happy. You don't and you're not when
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all is said and done. I mean, like, This is why I
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don't know anybody richer than me personally.
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I don't because of the people that are in my life.
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You know, like we're filming this on a Monday and like
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yesterday, I mean, you, you were there.
56:23
The grandkids all come over and we go to there's there's animals
56:28
down the street and we go feed the horses and the goats and
56:32
there's a zebra and it's somebody's house.
56:34
And you know, I mean, I'm holding grandkids hands and
56:38
they're having a good time and I'm working on their
56:40
friendships. And it's like, you know what, I
56:43
could, I could be a good golfer. I could have a bass boat.
56:48
I could take a nap. You.
56:52
You you could be a successful content provider without a
56:55
family and you would hate yourself right now.
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I like, I love the people in my life and what makes me happy is
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seeing their joy. The best thing in the world is
57:09
not having something but giving it or sharing it.
57:12
And the best thing in the world is not your joy, but having
57:16
someone else experience joy. That's that's where the Bible
57:20
says it's more blessed to give than receive.
57:21
And God's 100% bullseye, right? And so, yeah, it this whole
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like, you know, I got mine. It's like you don't even you're
57:29
actually selling yourself short and and selfishness is always
57:33
settling for less. I mean, remove her money and
57:37
suddenly she has a fall from Hollywood or whatever.
57:40
She does something, she gets cancelled, All these boss babes
57:42
disappear. She's no longer a boss babe, a
57:45
kid. If you lose your, if you go
57:46
bankrupt, if you lose your house, if you lose your job, the
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kid still loves you. Your family's still there.
57:52
My wife's still there. These boss babes will not be
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there for these feminist girls. Well, I'll tell you what happens
57:58
to you once you start getting a lot of money.
58:00
Then you have a lot of lawsuits and you need a big PR firm and
58:03
you need a bunch of lawyers, and now you're trying to defend your
58:07
empire and the rest of your life is just fending off the wolves.
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A. 27 year old, I've met 27 year olds.
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I was a 27 year old. Like, you're not, you're not
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built for this at all. No one's built for that level of
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success. But it's youth work.
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You just, you chase it. Yeah, that's where the Bible
58:28
talks about fasting. And you know, sometimes it's
58:32
good, especially if you're a celebrity.
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Just fast, maybe from attention and see if it doesn't reset your
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soul. It's a hard one.
58:40
It's a hard one. Thank you guys for tuning in for
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