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Come Back To Love August 27, 2026 TRUTH FOUND ME: A Life Too Wild to be Coincidence with Melody Mann · Come Back to Love:

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Come Back to Love with your host, Robin Vogel.
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  Speaker 2: In a world that often feels disconnected, uncertain, and overwhelming,
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  Speaker 2: back to love. I'm Robin Vogel, psychotherapist, relationship expert, love
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  Speaker 2: and intimacy coach, and the author of Come Back to Love,
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  Speaker 2: A Path to Healing. That was published in February, 2026,
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  Speaker 2: PM Pacific, and that's 4.30 PM Eastern time. I am
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  Speaker 2: so excited. I often do solo episodes, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 2: to have my next guest episode. We are going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Melody Millerman's book, Truth Found Me, A Life
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  Speaker 2: Too Wild to be Coincidence. Ooh, I love that subtitle.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it again. A life too wild
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  Speaker 2: to be coincidence. Oh, so perfect. Melody was born. Melody
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  Speaker 2: was born. I don't know where you were born actually,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to say that you're an author, a
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  Speaker 2: retired nurse, a journalist who traveled solo through 40 countries
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  Speaker 2: in 12 months on $ 1, 200 in 1973. Passionate about alternative medicine.
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  Speaker 2: She reversed bone loss, PMS, menopause symptoms. and even a
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  Speaker 2: bone-on-bone knee injury from her pickleball enthusiasm with natural remedies.
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  Speaker 2: Her memoir, Truth Found Me, shares adventures and miracles with authenticity, humor,
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  Speaker 2: and unforgettable storytelling.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I am so lucky to have you on my show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you're kind. You're kind.
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  Speaker 2: It's really true. I am also somebody who has just
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  Speaker 2: really relied on my inner guidance and and alternative health
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  Speaker 2: for many, many years. And so I really love especially
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  Speaker 2: what I just read about your healing journey, which I
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  Speaker 2: want to hear more about. And I am someone who
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  Speaker 2: loves to travel. And I would say in the last
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  Speaker 2: five or six years, I just turned 60. So about
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  Speaker 2: in the last five or six years, I've really taken
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of travel. And I'm so enjoying myself.
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  Speaker 2: So wow to what you have done.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Melody. It's so nice to have you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. What a thrill. What a thrill. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into the love stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So truth found me. So let's start with that. That's
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  Speaker 2: the title of your book. Is it your first book?
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  Speaker 4: It is my first book and I've been working on
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  Speaker 4: it since 2010.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I totally understand.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think when you finish the last chapter
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  Speaker 4: and put a period at the end of the paragraph,
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  Speaker 4: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: A book happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: There's a whole new education for me how to get
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  Speaker 4: a book out.
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  Speaker 3: Of your computer and into the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Same.
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  Speaker 3: And it launches next week. It most likely will launch
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  Speaker 3: next week. And I'm just so thrilled. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: due date has come.
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  Speaker 4: I just thought due date should have been a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a long time to get a book out
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  Speaker 2: into the world. That is true. It was my experience
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  Speaker 2: as well between the writing and the publishing. So I
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  Speaker 2: just want to say to our listeners that the book
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  Speaker 2: will be out sometime in the middle to the end
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  Speaker 2: of June, 2026. And since these shows are evergreen, we
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  Speaker 2: don't know when people are going to be listening, but
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  Speaker 2: just know that the book was published around that time.
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  Speaker 2: And you can find Truth Found Me, I'm assuming, on
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  Speaker 2: Amazon and other perhaps online bookstores. So tell me and
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  Speaker 2: tell us how it arrived inside you to write a
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  Speaker 2: book called Truth Found Me.
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  Speaker 4: It was, in my case, it was the Lord. He
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  Speaker 4: told me to write my story. I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to write a book.
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  Speaker 3: And this was 2010.
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  Speaker 4: And every time he just, you know, he has a
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  Speaker 4: way of nagging you. and reminding you and reminding you.
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  Speaker 3: And et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: And every time I heard the word story, whether it
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  Speaker 4: was in a song or whether it was on a
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  Speaker 4: TV show or whatever story, I've got to write my story.
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  Speaker 4: So I said I would. And so I started writing
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  Speaker 4: it and then I stopped. I went through a very
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  Speaker 4: long caretaking of my last husband because he was, went
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  Speaker 4: through COVID, got cancer. And so I, You know, that
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  Speaker 4: took a little hiatus of writing. And all the time,
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't arguing the whole time. I knew I had
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  Speaker 4: to finish it, but I just don't like to write.
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  Speaker 3: What can I say? I don't like to write. It's hard,
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  Speaker 3: hard work. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't have a story like this if I
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  Speaker 4: was a sit down and be by myself person.
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  Speaker 3: I am not. That is not my nature. It was hard.
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  Speaker 4: And so I mostly did it somewhere between one or
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  Speaker 4: two in the morning and four or five in the
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  Speaker 4: morning because you're not missing anything.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 3: So I would write in the middle of the night. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would say for me that the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 2: I've done a lot of writing myself in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the night. And although I also just published my
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  Speaker 2: first book, I have started many books in the last
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  Speaker 2: 12 years or so. And yeah, the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: night is a great time to write. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's quiet. You can hear the kind of messages that
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  Speaker 2: are coming through. My intuition is more open. There's no distractions.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, there's nothing else to tend to. So
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  Speaker 2: I hear you about that middle of the night, middle
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  Speaker 2: of the night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing else is really distracting you at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You can scroll.
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  Speaker 4: Your phone and I have stopped and worked on a
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  Speaker 4: few words with friends, words, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you talked about coincidence. And I'm sure my
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  Speaker 2: audience is on the edge of their seat to hear, like,
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  Speaker 2: what were the coincidences that came to be that have
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  Speaker 2: created your life or created this book?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think more important is the probably a life
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  Speaker 3: too wild.
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  Speaker 4: Because I had finished college, University of Texas in Austin,
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  Speaker 4: party school. And then I flew to Florida to live
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  Speaker 4: with a former colleague. roommate that I had in college
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  Speaker 4: didn't have any place else to go.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, well, I'll just go live with her.
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  Speaker 3: She invited me. And so I worked there for a while.
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  Speaker 4: And then I got a job, you know, a wonderful
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  Speaker 4: career job in Naples, Florida, working for an advertising man.
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  Speaker 3: And he made me the art director of the advertising agency.
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  Speaker 3: But it wasn't just maybe a month or two in.
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  Speaker 4: Then I, you know, take him some artwork that we're
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  Speaker 4: working on a you know, a client's project or something.
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  Speaker 4: And up came his hand between my legs and started
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  Speaker 4: putting hands where I didn't want. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is the inauguration of me too, way back in
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  Speaker 4: 1970 to 1973. So yeah, well, it, it wasn't the
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  Speaker 4: career job I was hoping for, but instead, um, I
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  Speaker 4: told him I'd do him a year. I would work
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  Speaker 4: with him for a year until he got his advertising
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  Speaker 4: agency was from Pennsylvania. And so he was trying to
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  Speaker 4: establish one in the South and in his retirement.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what? I, I promised him.
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  Speaker 4: A year, but before long, when I said, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: there came some other artists with their portfolios interviewing and
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  Speaker 4: his door would go closed.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was out the door. He fired me.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, In fact, I just wrote an article
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  Speaker 3: called Fired Into Freedom. Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 4: This is not a great start to a career, but
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  Speaker 4: am I glad to be out of there?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Don't break any promises. But on the way home, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't go by the unemployment office.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't go pick up an application for someplace else.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the post office. What did I pick
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  Speaker 3: up there? Application for a passport. Thought, I am going
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  Speaker 3: to retire. I just, you know, I hate. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want this. Maybe this isn't the career I want after all.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm building this.
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  Speaker 4: Ladder against the wrong building and I'll get to the
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  Speaker 4: top and go, where am I?
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  Speaker 3: What is this for?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll have wasted years getting to the top, climbing
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  Speaker 4: that ladder and go like this.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to go check out the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the things.
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  Speaker 2: In 1973, you said, I think I'm going to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to retire first. I have energy. I
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  Speaker 3: had $ 1, 200. What more did one need to see the world? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us, how was it? Where did you go?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I flew and I had another girlfriend who was
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  Speaker 4: a roommate from college and she was living in Germany.
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  Speaker 3: So I, I flew to Luxembourg. That was where my
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  Speaker 3: ticket took me.
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  Speaker 4: I went to Germany and just to get my bearings,
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  Speaker 4: my feet under me and figure out where I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to go first, decided to go to Paris and head
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  Speaker 4: down to Spain because I had seven years of Spanish.
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  Speaker 3: How much more do you need to make your way?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just realized when I got down there, I
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  Speaker 4: had enough to get me in trouble and not near
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  Speaker 4: enough to get out.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I got in so much trouble.
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  Speaker 4: The Spanish men had a whole different culture thing than
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  Speaker 4: I was. I mean, here I had long blonde hair
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  Speaker 4: and traveling just single people. Hey, I was, there was
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  Speaker 4: three men that attacked me on the beach that I
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  Speaker 4: should not have lived through. They took a t-shirt, put
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  Speaker 4: it over my face and tried to smother me and
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  Speaker 4: take advantage.
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  Speaker 3: And how did I get out of that? That was
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  Speaker 3: like three in the morning. How did I get out
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  Speaker 3: of that? Well, that you have to see the book.
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  Speaker 3: You have to read the book. Okay. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Traveling in Madrid on a, I was just on the
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  Speaker 4: regular city bus and, But everybody else had gotten off,
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  Speaker 4: and he drove me out to the country, locked the doors,
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  Speaker 4: and started chasing me around the bus.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, hmm, how do I get out of this?
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  Speaker 3: You have to read the book, find out.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you've had some really tense experiences of abuse.
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  Speaker 3: Rome was the most intense. I thought, I'm going there.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm going to stay south, like Spain and Italy
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  Speaker 4: are about the same. I'm going to find some friends.
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  Speaker 4: So I picked some up in Switzerland, and the three
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  Speaker 4: of us picked up a couple of other guys, and
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  Speaker 4: the five of us were walking through Rome. And two
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  Speaker 4: of them were fast walkers.
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  Speaker 3: They were in the front. Two were kind of medium walkers.
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  Speaker 3: I was the slow one, but I was right behind them.
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  Speaker 4: But walking next to a park at night, here comes
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  Speaker 4: an arm, and half nelsons me into the park.
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  Speaker 3: I look up, and there's eight Roman guys. How do
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  Speaker 3: I get out of that?
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: You have to find out.
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  Speaker 2: OK, you're leaving us on the edge here, Melody. But
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like you've been into really dangerous situations.
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  Speaker 3: Very, very.
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  Speaker 4: But that was the life too wild. And it was
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  Speaker 4: not coincidence that I was being protected. There was a
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  Speaker 4: hand protecting me in all of these things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like you grew up with a lot of faith.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious about that now.
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  Speaker 3: My parents didn't believe we didn't go to church as
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  Speaker 3: a family. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So this was just your own awakening that there's been
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  Speaker 2: a hand protecting you.
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  Speaker 3: In the 40th country. 40 countries to get my attention.
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  Speaker 3: 40 countries.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Was that the biggest lesson of that year?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure it was. It changed my life.
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  Speaker 4: I did a 180, walking and fulfilling my own desires
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  Speaker 4: and doing my own thing.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually in Wales.
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  Speaker 4: It was a Sunday. It was an afternoon. I laid
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  Speaker 4: down just to wait for the boat to go to Ireland.
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  Speaker 4: And I needed to finish four more countries. That's England, Ireland,
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  Speaker 4: and Scotland. Well, three more countries.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, and Wales. Wales was where I was.
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  Speaker 4: And I woke up and I had excruciating pain in
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  Speaker 4: my right side. And I said, wow, at least I've
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  Speaker 4: had my health. What do I do now? And went
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  Speaker 4: to a bar. And I said, is there a clinic
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  Speaker 4: or something? I can just ask what's going on with
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  Speaker 4: my body.
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  Speaker 3: And they.
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  Speaker 4: called me an ambulance. So all the way in the
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  Speaker 4: back of the ambulance to the hospital, I cried my
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  Speaker 4: eyes out. Was it because it was the pain? No,
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  Speaker 4: it was because I had been so independent.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want anybody depending on me, me depending on nobody.
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  Speaker 4: I just put my thumb on the road and just
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  Speaker 4: kept on my way that I was isolated.
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  Speaker 3: I was alone. There was nobody there.
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  Speaker 4: And I realized, wow, I had made my God independence,
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  Speaker 4: but this is the end result of.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of independence.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Powerful.
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  Speaker 4: That was an eye opener. So then actually the next day,
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  Speaker 4: the pain had subsided. The doctors looked at me and
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  Speaker 4: poked my stomach and said, we'll.
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  Speaker 3: See what happens in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, if this was the United States,
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  Speaker 4: there'd be x-rays, there'd be lung tests and all that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: No, they just gave me a bed and laid me down. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And woke up without pain.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, well, I don't want a hospital bill, so
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  Speaker 4: I'll just go ahead and leave before anybody else is up.
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  Speaker 3: That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: So you said you did a 180 when you got
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  Speaker 2: back from the trip.
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  Speaker 3: So what did that? No, it was the next day.
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  Speaker 4: The next day after that experience, I was in Dublin
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  Speaker 4: and a guy stopped me in the street and he said,
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  Speaker 4: started talking to me about the Lord, giving me some literature.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, oh, I became a Christian when I
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  Speaker 3: was 12.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't grow up in a Christian family, but my
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  Speaker 4: sister was an influence and she took me to all
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  Speaker 4: this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Youth for Christ stuff and church and youth groups.
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  Speaker 4: And all this kind of stuff all that time I
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  Speaker 4: just go anywhere to get out of the house.
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  Speaker 3: The car's going I'm in it let's go yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And um anyway he looked at me and he said
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  Speaker 4: it didn't take I said well who do you think
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  Speaker 4: you are to judge me it's like.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell by your lifestyle you don't know him.
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  Speaker 4: So he said just join me and my friends for
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  Speaker 4: pizza I was like I was so lonely by that time.
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  Speaker 4: I would have gone out on a date with a
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  Speaker 4: sidewalk if it would have talked to me.
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  Speaker 3: I was lonely.
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  Speaker 4: So I said, yeah, I'll meet y'all for pizza. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we all got our pizza, sat down in the booth.
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  Speaker 4: And while they were just, let's thank the Lord for
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  Speaker 4: the food.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Lord. You're such an amazing God. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Lord. Oh, I asked for an apple. And
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  Speaker 3: there was one in the middle of the street. It
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  Speaker 3: was shiny and clean. And there was just an apple.
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  Speaker 3: And you gave it to me. And I'm like, who
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  Speaker 3: are they talking to? I never had seen anybody pray
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Like they really had somebody there talking to him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. In the midst of their praise, it says God
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  Speaker 3: inhabits the praises of his people. Jesus appeared to.
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  Speaker 4: Me in that pizzeria in that moment. And he said, Melody,
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  Speaker 4: I'm what you're looking for. You don't have to look
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  Speaker 4: any further. He said, did you guys know Jesus is real?
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  Speaker 4: And they said, yeah, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's real, real. I just saw him. He
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  Speaker 3: talked to me.
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  Speaker 4: And he called me Melody. Nobody ever called me Melody.
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  Speaker 4: I was Dee Dee from the time I was born.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, my parents, when they were mad, I was
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  Speaker 4: always Melody Ann. And whenever the teacher had to call
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  Speaker 4: roll the first day of school, I was Melody.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the only time. Nobody ever called me that.
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  Speaker 3: And I haven't been anything else since that moment. He
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  Speaker 3: changed my name.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Of course. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's so beautiful to have an awakened moment. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think some of Some of us, the greater us,
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  Speaker 2: are lucky to have those moments, and they are life-changing.
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  Speaker 3: April 8th, 1974.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: We had a dating time, too.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. Wow. So your purpose in your life,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: with regards to your book, has been to tell your story, yeah?
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Well, he said to tell. When I would argue, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: it's like, God, there are enough books in the world.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Nobody needs another book.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Look at Goodwill. There's plenty of books. You want a book?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I'll get you a book. Look at the libraries.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: There's plenty of libraries. There are books out there. He
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: would say, nobody else has your story. I gave you
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: your story.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Write your story. And I'm like, yes, Lord.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So I used to say the same thing.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: You're seeing the birth of a baby.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, beautiful, beautiful. I used to say the same thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I used to say, there's already so many books. What
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: do I have to share that's unique? And gosh, I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: don't have enough to say. That was a big hump
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to get over for me. How could I possibly fill
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: a book? But as soon as I started talking, because
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I spoke a lot of the book first into a transcriber,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my goodness, I have so much
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to say. I didn't even realize.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Same.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I'm really blown away by your travel and the daring
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and courageous energy of actually, I guess, taking lemons and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: making lemonade, of saying, I'm out of here. The situation
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: is bad. Yes, I was fired, but I feel it
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: as freedom. And I'm going to do something completely different
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: with my life. And I love what you said. I've
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: got $ 1, 200. I might retire in 1973. Who says that?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But you did. And then you went all over the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: world for a year. And your experiences sound, the ones
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that you've shared, sound many extremely dangerous. but proof over
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and over again that you were being cared for, that
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you were being looked out upon, that there was love
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: surrounding you and protecting you, which is a massive gift,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: not only obviously to you, but to anybody who's listening
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: today and also to whoever chooses, and hopefully many, to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: purchase your book because that is such a teaching to
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: share a memoir with. And to allow people into your
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: own experience quite different than theirs, I'm sure. So there's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a few pieces in there. I just want to say
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: one more time, like I highlight the, the choice to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: do something outrageous. You know, that's big because a lot
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of people will just keep doing the same old, same old,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the choice to do something outrageous and just say, I'm
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: doing this. I've got $ 1, 200 and I'm going like, that's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: amazing to me. That's so beautiful.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what the experience in Dublin, Ireland was
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: just the hump of the book. The rest of the book,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: which is the other half, is all miracles. Because I
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: just followed him, listened to him, did the next thing
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: he said to do. And that was, see over here, oh,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you can see it, but your listeners can't.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It was a wagon train.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had me on a wagon train from San
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Diego to Philadelphia in 1976. We're now at 2026, 50 years.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: We're having a reunion in two weeks.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: All of us.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And we're probably all now in our seventies and eighties.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: We won't recognize each other.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. That is amazing.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Melody.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: That was one of those things. Okay. That was 1976
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: and 1980. He called me to.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Well in 76, he actually called me to go to
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Russia and to take scripture into Russia. And, uh, Because
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the Olympics didn't happen in 1980 because Russia was attacking Afghanistan.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: You're too young to remember that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: No, I remember that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not. But go ahead. Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And so anyway, that trip kind of got canceled. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I kept it in my back pocket. And when something
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: came along on my desk, I was our director for
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: a medical products company putting out a newsletter for ICU
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: nurses because I was now a nurse and a journalist.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: So I just combined the two of them.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And and I had told my boss, I said, I
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: have a calling to go to Russia before you hire me.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Is that OK? And he said, well, if the Lord
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: opens the doors for you to go to Russia, you
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: can go. You'll come back. You'll still have a job. So, OK,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I'll I'll do that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Well, anyway, this thing, it was a nursing study tour
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: of the USSR, five provinces.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And he went over there.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And on the very first night, he hadn't told me
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: this before, on the very first night, I got a scripture.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: That told me you're going to get caught, but don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: worry about, I'll, you know, I have your back. I'll
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: tell you what to say. Oh, I'm going to get caught.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: That means I don't have to hide anything. I'm going
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: to get caught sometime anyway. So I'll just let him
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: determine when I'm going to get caught. So it was
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: the very last place, the last day. And I got
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: caught and the KGB arrested me.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Melody. At least you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Remember what's KGB is most people don't even, what's the KGB?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, you are.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Believe me, you don't want to be caught by the KGB.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for sharing on the show today.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like you gave the readers, like many, I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the listeners, many opportunities to be on the edge of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: their seats, to hear some of the miracles. And that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: sounds like there's a whole lot more. It just gives
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: everybody inspiration and really a window into what's true in
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: our world that isn't necessarily seen. Sometimes it is, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: absolutely felt and experienced and so beautiful.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I really didn't know what to expect when we sat
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: down for this conversation and I'm totally delighted.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I am thrilled. I am thrilled. And you're my last
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: one and I'm sad. I could do 10 more. I'm just... So,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Know, energized by the people I'm talking to, their stories,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: your story. I can't wait to pick your book up
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and see what kind of love stuff you're talking about.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Because I have married the last two years, been married
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: to the love of my life, my soulmate. I have
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the most wonderful life and marriage I could ever have
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: hope for in my life. Wow.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We have to do another episode on that.
• 23:33
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