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Steve Lacy Talks #1 Song "Bad Habit", Mac Miller, Love Life, Working With Kanye West + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wait that up in the morning Breakfast Club yeaps World
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  Speaker 1: Most Dangers Morning Show to Breakfast Club, Charlomagne and God
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  Speaker 1: Angelie ye Envy had to step out for a second,
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  Speaker 1: but we got a special guest in the building. Mind
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  Speaker 1: Steve Lacy. What's happening, brother, Nothing much, man, it's pretty early.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you don't like early mornings. I can
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  Speaker 1: tell that's early morning. It's hire right now. He might
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  Speaker 1: have not gone asleep yet. The black hoodie, the shade,
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  Speaker 1: just like, oh god, no, I'm really happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: This is uh. I watched the show a lot. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you sun out to baby Sam. She was going, she
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  Speaker 1: was like, we gotta make sure because you are on
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  Speaker 1: this sold out tour, even having to add dates to
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  Speaker 1: some of the venues that you already have. So it's
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  Speaker 1: important for us for you to be here too. Oh
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me. M So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. How does it feel like for you to
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  Speaker 1: have the success that you've had. You have a number
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  Speaker 1: one song right now, that's true. Um, I don't really know.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to take things in, especially when
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  Speaker 1: I'm like in Tormode, So I don't know. I'm like grateful,
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  Speaker 1: but you're still working. Yeah, it's like I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to take anything in right now. It was number
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  Speaker 1: one two weeks in a row, right, two weeks? Yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 1: today's Monday, might be three, might be three. Did you
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  Speaker 1: just expect to success to this song when you recorded it? No? No,
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  Speaker 1: to me. I mean I never think about that when
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  Speaker 1: I'm making music. Like you know, I've been making music
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  Speaker 1: for years, and I think, to me, it's always just
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  Speaker 1: been just a process of getting better at making music.
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  Speaker 1: So that song, Um, I just felt it was a
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  Speaker 1: relatable story and that it just felt good to me. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. You miss the shot you don't take. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the message of that whole song.
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  Speaker 1: What so was this inspired by real, true life things
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  Speaker 1: or any incident? Yeah? I always feel like that about people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like I wish I would have said something, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I see somebody I'm crushing on them, just be like,
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  Speaker 1: oh they look cute, gona be okay, and just keep walking.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you say something? I don't know. But that's
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  Speaker 1: also the thing about energy, right, Like, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: the energy says no, sometimes you gotta leave it alone
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes it, maybe just a comment like that's looks nice,
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  Speaker 1: but no needs like the energy is not saying go
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  Speaker 1: holler at the person. Yeah exactly. I'm like, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: enough for me, Get him a compliment, keep moving. When
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  Speaker 1: is the last time you've been in the situation where
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  Speaker 1: you just had to holler? Though? I don't do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bad habit. Why, I'm really shy kind of
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  Speaker 1: think probably like it'll probably be like through a friend
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  Speaker 1: or something. I'd be like, who's that? Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: I got the like okay from the friend. I'm okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'll try to say something, what Gemini characteristics? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think you have all of them? Because Gemini's are a
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  Speaker 1: little crazy and they're very manipulative. What yes, and they
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  Speaker 1: can use their powers for good all evil. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: And they really have two different personalities. So what do
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  Speaker 1: you What are the ones you said when you say
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  Speaker 1: you have all of them? What are they? Like? How
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  Speaker 1: hard is it to leave the house and not act
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  Speaker 1: like Kanye? Oh that's easy, He's he's him. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's Kanye. We're pretty different, pretty different. You had a
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  Speaker 1: relationship to We're at one point? Are yeah, matching tattoo
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  Speaker 1: with him, you and him a little oozy. Yeah, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that just happen here forever technically, Yeah, did that age?
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  Speaker 1: Well asked myself this question every day. It was just
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, sir. I know, yeah, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: that an actual friend, would you call him a friend? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it was exciting when he said
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  Speaker 1: what he said about you. How you know how amazing
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  Speaker 1: you are as an artist. Yeah. No, he was kind
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  Speaker 1: of definitely a huge part of um, kind of me
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  Speaker 1: getting to it on this album because I was around,
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  Speaker 1: like I said this on anything, but I'm on Births
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  Speaker 1: Club so I can say it. I feel comfortable. But
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  Speaker 1: I was like kind of like a ghost. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: like Donda on Donda around that time at the stadiums
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  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I never experienced nothing like that in
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  Speaker 1: my life. And you know, I would just get these
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  Speaker 1: different tasks, Like first I'm there because he liked my drums,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm there programming drums. He's like, we need Steve
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  Speaker 1: Lacy drums all over the whole album. So I like
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  Speaker 1: programmed drums a bunch of times. And then then I
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  Speaker 1: had like the duty just like reproducing some songs and
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  Speaker 1: then it was just like this whole journey. But I
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  Speaker 1: would always do my job and then go leave because
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  Speaker 1: I was like working on my album. And yes, you
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  Speaker 1: know he always noticed me, um when I would leave
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  Speaker 1: you five days. Yeah, and then now I gotta go home.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you at? Um? So we kind of maintain
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  Speaker 1: a relationship over there after that. But I think just
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  Speaker 1: watching the process of just like that collaboration and having
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  Speaker 1: so many hands on your stuff but still it being yours,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was super inspiring. And I think the work
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  Speaker 1: ethic and like the bars element to um, just the thing,
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  Speaker 1: like the whole like kind of like hip hop thing.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of took that when I left that thing
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  Speaker 1: and went went to the studio, worked online, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of applied all those notes that I had.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do with the White Lives Matter? Shirty sent you.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't got one of those. I ain't got one
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  Speaker 1: of those. Did you make some good connections because there
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  Speaker 1: were so many artists there too, and produces and other
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  Speaker 1: people working? How did that help you? Um? We just
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  Speaker 1: stay friends, but no one on networked on my record.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, some good relationships came out of it, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I saw an article you did in the Washington Polls
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  Speaker 1: and you talked about how you just trying to stay
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  Speaker 1: cool and comfortable but also grappling with you know, newfound fame.
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  Speaker 1: So what's been the biggest adjustment to the fame. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I mean, it's privacy for sure.
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  Speaker 1: It's not being able to do certain things. Having to
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  Speaker 1: be super aware of who I am all the time. It's, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of weird, yeah, you know, because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm someone who likes to do like regular regular
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  Speaker 1: as things like um, so having to be reminded of
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  Speaker 1: the perception of myself sometimes all the time, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like woming. That's a hard one, reminded of the
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  Speaker 1: perception of yourself, Yeah, because the perception of the perception
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  Speaker 1: that people have of you is never really truly who
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  Speaker 1: knows exactly. Yeah, really, you know, the goal is just
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  Speaker 1: to be like a blob of energy, right just I
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  Speaker 1: don't want it. You just want to exist right solely
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  Speaker 1: as whatever the fuck you want to be in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm always trying to be there mentally,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes it could feel limiting that perception
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  Speaker 1: of self when it comes to like what other people
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  Speaker 1: might think, you know. So, but I try my best,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and my interactions to kind of delete that
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  Speaker 1: too and just be like, you know, I'm whatever I
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  Speaker 1: am right now, you know. Um, But yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's still something I'm adjusting
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  Speaker 1: to every day, and I think every day is different
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  Speaker 1: and every place is different to how they treat fame
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  Speaker 1: and famous people. Yeah. One thing I don't like is,
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  Speaker 1: um when people like sneak photos or something of me,
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  Speaker 1: like without speaking to me, like just say hi, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'll probably be down to take the photo, but don't
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  Speaker 1: just like or if they post it later, like so
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  Speaker 1: Steve Lacey in the airplane. Yeah, like that that makes
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  Speaker 1: me super uncomfortable and it's scary, Yeah, because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like people plotting on you. Yeah exactly, like you know yeah. Now,
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  Speaker 1: also we um early on the internet. So what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with that? I know a lot of you you
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  Speaker 1: did like solo projects, but is that something that you
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  Speaker 1: guys are gonna come back together and do something? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Is it something you're talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Is there? Because it feels like, you know, people aren't
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  Speaker 1: sure what's happening with the internet is right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm going to keep it a buck.
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  Speaker 1: You have no idea. It was up to me, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I would make another record, yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just love making music with everybody. Is it static between
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  Speaker 1: the group, No, it's it's chill. It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's kind of doing the solo thing right now. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to say when the next thing will come. And
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  Speaker 1: that's all. I mean, that's big being as you know,
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  Speaker 1: you you're having a lot of successful The fact that
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  Speaker 1: you say that there isn't that you want to do
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  Speaker 1: another album, yeah, because you might ask other members and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, well, Steve, Steve's two busy doing a solo
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  Speaker 1: number one record, you know, nah, things like that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I really don't know. It's because it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to I think nowadays two to just be all together
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, just schedules. It's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm on tour for the rest of the year. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: there's your second world tour, right? Yeah? Yeah, How does
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  Speaker 1: this different from the first one? Very different, very different.
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  Speaker 1: The first one was it was like a DJ and me,
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  Speaker 1: like playing the instruments, um, but it was just like
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  Speaker 1: super raw um, and this is just different because uh
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  Speaker 1: it's like you know, bad habit and it's just I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just like a huge shift of like kids
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  Speaker 1: and much shows and stuff just cool. I often wonder, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is it I was just talking to sharing
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  Speaker 1: about this. Is it hard to just sell music nowadays?
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  Speaker 1: Because people want so much of your personal life? Right? Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like you're kind of selling I
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  Speaker 1: mean maybe it's always been that, but it's like you're
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  Speaker 1: selling like a story, right, you know, like something to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of, Like it's any type of brand.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's like why are you? Why do you
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  Speaker 1: want to be a part of this brand? Um? So
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like maybe now it does require a
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  Speaker 1: little more like as an artist, like you need the
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  Speaker 1: like persona, like the character of like who you are,
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  Speaker 1: and with the music on top of it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean maybe I would still be popping
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  Speaker 1: if I had none of that too, but I know
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  Speaker 1: that the persona of Steve Lacy is also something that
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  Speaker 1: comes along with the music. You give me a Prince
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  Speaker 1: fib oh, I appreciate it. Will you move? You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I got a Prince tattoo right there?
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  Speaker 1: Oh word? Okay, okay, yeah, and even some of the
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  Speaker 1: music gives me a Prince is my favorite artist of
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  Speaker 1: all time? HEMI too. Yeah. So, like I said, shady
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  Speaker 1: as fuck, you give me the shady energy tools in
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  Speaker 1: the honest moments. Okay, I could be a little petty,
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  Speaker 1: but you're saying relationships normally it ends because of you
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  Speaker 1: or because of the other person. So did I take
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe me, Okay, probably me. That's an
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  Speaker 1: honest moment. Yeah, probably I'll take it. I'll take that,
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  Speaker 1: probably me. And why is that I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to do relationships yet I'm twenty four, right, and plus
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  Speaker 1: I feel like my foundations are always faulty anyways, So
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, that's that's that's that's some self awareness. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like my relationships don't start in a good
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  Speaker 1: place that will like give us the longevity, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like I will reach a point where
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  Speaker 1: I'm like just trying to find shit to just be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is getting on my nerves. So when you're saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you mean like like they started with maybe just sex,
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like exactly because we just fucking you want
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  Speaker 1: to fall in love, right, and then I'll be like okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever, Like I'll just do it and then
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  Speaker 1: be like okay, what the hell. It will be months
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, what the hell is going on?
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  Speaker 1: And then I just I just got got a dip
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  Speaker 1: and then come back maybe and do it again. I'll
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  Speaker 1: definitely be I double back. If you write a song
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  Speaker 1: about people, back, I come back. If you write a
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  Speaker 1: song about me, we go together for a long god
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  Speaker 1: damn time. Okay, because they say Jim and I writes
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  Speaker 1: is about ex boyfriend, right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You can't write a record about me and tell the
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  Speaker 1: world it's about me and didn't expect me just to leave.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Lacy, Yeah, yeah, we don't talk. What Yeah after
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  Speaker 1: writing a record about him? Yeah? Did he hit you
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  Speaker 1: up about that? I played him the album right before
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  Speaker 1: it came out, and then we kind of stopped talking
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  Speaker 1: because you probably didn't express it under those feelings to him.
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  Speaker 1: He probably just did it. I did. I did. I
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  Speaker 1: was very vocal about what's going on, and I was
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  Speaker 1: like this is what I played the record. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is how it was feeling and stuff. That's gotta
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  Speaker 1: be hard too though for you, because I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: you make that album, but then you go out there
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  Speaker 1: and perform that album, so you're constantly thinking about saying
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  Speaker 1: individual yeah. Yeah, well I feel like I wrote it
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  Speaker 1: in a way that could have been applied to anyone
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  Speaker 1: or anything. So you know, it was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: fluid thing of not saying anything specifically to this person
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  Speaker 1: to make it more about me, yeah, and less about
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  Speaker 1: Does that help you with the healing process of breaking up? Definitely?
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  Speaker 1: Really this album specifically helped me get through it real hard,
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  Speaker 1: real Hardum. There was this moment I think that like
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  Speaker 1: shifted my relationship to like journaling and work where it
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  Speaker 1: was like two weeks after break up, I was really
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  Speaker 1: pissed off. The intro with the Statics song like baby
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  Speaker 1: you Got something, you know, I was like super pissed off,
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  Speaker 1: and I had just got back home from New York
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  Speaker 1: and I had these like ceramics that I like made
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  Speaker 1: that were at his house on the table on the
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  Speaker 1: table on my marble table in my house, and my
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: sister was house sitting for me. So I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: this bag. I look inside this bag, and I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: how to hell these here? So I called my little sister, like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: how you get these? She's like, oh yeah, like we
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  Speaker 1: just got lunch and like he told me about everything.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why the fuck you're getting lunch with
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  Speaker 1: my little sister, Like y'all not buddy, buddy. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you use my little sister to like get to me,
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  Speaker 1: like la la la, that's my family. Like so I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: was like, uh, like right, no exactly. In that moment,
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  Speaker 1: I really wanted to do something crazy, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: then my friend Alan shouts up. To Alan. He was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: all right, you can't do shit about this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck, nigga, lokey right, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: I was just studio studio, calling my friends, ranting to
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  Speaker 1: them um and just winning the studio. And then I
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  Speaker 1: did that bassline, played the piano, and then just kind
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  Speaker 1: of freestyling and then that song came about. But that
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: was like the highest of it, you know, like just
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: high emotions and getting it out, you know, producing those
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: records and writing them like fully in the in the
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  Speaker 1: emotion that I'm man about the song static. Then since
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you were talking about you know, I love that song. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's for your lovely doctors. Yeah, it's hilarious
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  Speaker 1: because I got these sixteen year old singing this song.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all don't even know what the hell I'm
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: talking about. Like the first bar I'm talking about Kenemine.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: You don't even know what kenemine is? Right? The drug? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sniff in that k that's a khole reference. Let me
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I think about that too, because think
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  Speaker 1: about how many songs you grew up into and you
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  Speaker 1: had no idea. I'll just I'm like, where is the khole?
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  Speaker 1: A khole? You know what? Khole? That's where you do
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  Speaker 1: too much kenemy and you just kind of like a zombie,
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  Speaker 1: like you can't move. It's like paralysis. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, khole.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a real story. No, I mean, not for me.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't not for you. But I'm saying because that's
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  Speaker 1: not about you and the song, No, it's not about me.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of No, I was about me. I've
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  Speaker 1: said too much. Yeah, but it's funny because I'll be
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  Speaker 1: the shows these kids. Baby, you got something in your nose.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe singing that shit. I'm like, y'all, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know. Yeah, yeah, but bless their little hards. Though,
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  Speaker 1: there's songs that you grew up listening to. The now
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you look back and you're like, oh, that's what they
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  Speaker 1: was talking about, because you think about some of those songs.
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  Speaker 1: I think about some of the songs I don't. There's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: a movie that pops up in my head rather than
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  Speaker 1: the song um fucking uh bamboozle. Okay, Yeah, I tried
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  Speaker 1: to watch that as an adult and I was like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: because as a kid, I just love Save Young Glover.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, I was watching that movie being like, man,
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  Speaker 1: the tap dancing and this ship so dope. And then
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: now you know, I think I was like watching it
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  Speaker 1: the other day, I was like, oh, the tap dancing
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  Speaker 1: was associated with something the whole, but yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even I would just like Save Young Glover, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm like, oh, wow, you see you see
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the selat in the industry you're in. Yeah, yeah, totally
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: about that one line. If you had to stunt your
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: shining for your love or dump that fucker. Do you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: ever felt like you had to turn your your your
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: light down? Yeah, definitely. Wow. Yeah, yeah, that's how you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: made you feel like. I don't. I don't blame them
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: for doing that. You know, I blame myself too, for
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: because I could have spoke up. I could have been like, hey,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not feeling like this, sir, you know this is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: making me feel this way. But I feel like in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: my past relationships, I would just get nervous and then
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: just be like, uh, this just makes me feel this way.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not the type of person that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, you did this, you did this.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, okay, what's my role? I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: actually look at myself first, like okay, okay, what's my
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: place in this? You know, in all situations. Yeah, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: think all gym na I should do that because it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: usually they're fault will continue yeah you know, and I'll
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I The thing about me as a Gemini is I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: know when I'm sucking up, you know, and I'll be like,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now Gemini say I'm sorry, but they have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like excuses and they'll still blame it on you and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: they'll be like, I'm sorry that you feel like I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: did this, instead of just saying, you know, I've done
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that before. Yeah, Now, when you made the album, did
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you think about like, because I don't even know what
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: category to put this album in. You know how they're like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: this is this genre when you get nominated for a Grammy,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this is the genre that this would go in. Right,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: So when you think about that, like, how would you
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: categorize it? That's a good question. I really don't know.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I really don't know. Yeah, I've always had a weird
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: relationship with genre because I feel like I'm always making
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: all type of stuff and I'm inspired by so many things.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, that was weird for me. Do
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you care about things like Grammys and nominations and I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: mean having a number one song? I know you care
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: about that. Well. The thing, here's the thing. I didn't
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: care until I was number two, Dick, I gotta sick
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: number one. I found it. What do you have to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it's a joke. It's a joke or not. This is
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the industrm'st keep on getting number one. That Dark World
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on the YouTube is gonna lay to suck for to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: get the number one. No, Because I was at when
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I was at number one hundred and stuff, I was like, okay, yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like cool, then we at fifty something, I'm like, okay,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that's like in like two weeks. That's curagy, okay cool.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And then we're in the top ten. I'm at number eight,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool. And there were number two and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh fuck, now I want the number one,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you know, but I wouldn't think about that. Well, congratulations though,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that is an accomplishment, like how many people are ever
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: going to have a number one song? Yeah, yeah, no,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm super grateful. I'm like, what the fuck? You know? Um?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But do I care about Grammys and stuff? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I mean that's another thing like feel like again, I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: didn't care about that U till I got nominated, Right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this could happen, yeah, exactly. So you have to have
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: been nominated as a producer before, though, right, a lot
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: of times. Probably every year since I got first nominated,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I've probably been there. Was your first nominated Ego Death,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: really Ego Death, And that was the first piece of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: music I've ever worked on, Like so the first thing
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I ever worked on. Went to Grammys, Like, I was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: there with my mom. I'm like this like one hundred
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and fifty dollars suit from downtown. Nice I'm sure you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: still made it look fresh. Yeah, you know, I did
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: what I did, all of us being and he's still
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: all excited about the Internet because it was like we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen a hip hop like band since The Roots. Yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So y'all were like the first. Yeah, no,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that were the first. It's the Roots rather, Yeah no,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that was that was the first thing I ever worked on.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And I remember, um, you know, I had the co
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: executive producer credit on that, and at the time, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was still in high school, so I didn't know. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: didn't know what the hell that meant, you know, co
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: executive producer. I'm thinking, like, if you get that title,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it's probably everybody in the band. So I'm like, okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what to make of it. Matt
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: called me one day he was like, yeah, we're gonna
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: make you co exactly, Like okay, like whatever, you know? Um,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: And I remember on the hard copy of the CD
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I saw it it was like co executive produced by
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Sydney benn At, Matt Marshans, and Steve Lacey, and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, that must mean like I did something
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: substantial on this. Yeah, But I had no idea that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: called problems with the rest of the group. Na, okay, no,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it was fun. And and then you started producing for
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: other people. I know you produced for some launch Ken
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: drinking Oh yeah, yeah, so those records. See I went
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to the Grammys, well, I think when Damn I was nominated.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well Damn got nominated, So I had a nomination for
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that because I produced Pride, and then Apolo twenty one
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I was nominated, and then Vampire Weekend I was nominated.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: That's probably some other things I'm forgetting about. But yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I've been I've been nominated a couple of times. Would
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it feels better being nominated as a producer nominated as
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a as an artist? I mean definitely as an artist. Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: that's cool because at the time too, I thought I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I knew I didn't do
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: my best on that album. So I was kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like mad at myself and in a lot of ways,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I thought that album was a failure for me. So really, yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: because I knew, I knew I could have spent more
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: time on it. I knew I could have did and more.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I knew I could have edited more. So I was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: kind of like sitting with that and being like shit,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like I just rushed this. I was too anty to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: put something out because I'm seeing everybody else. I just
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: had this weird pressure on myself to just be like
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: drop this ship, we're out a need to um. But
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I still did it and it came out, did what
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it did, you know, And I still ended up at
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the Grammy. So I was like, oh, you know, imagine
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: if I gave it right, yeah, no, seriously, because I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: feel like I wasn't. I wasn't caring, you know. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: kind of was in this like oh whatever, like fucking mentality,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you know. UM. And I think I had to you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: all the quarantine ship, you know, you're sitting around and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: really um seeing okay, when the world went back up,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: who do I want to be? Or like what do
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I want to work on right now? And you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like I went in to do work that
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: would get me out of this like oh yeah, you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: know you know. So I was like, yeah, I actually
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: do care, you know. And I feel like I started
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: consciously calling myself an artist when I was working on
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this album. I was like, oh, this feels like my
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: first album as an artist, you know, because it was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: weird being a producer, being in a band, like all
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: these things kept me from going as hard at being
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: my own artist. So I had to make a conscious
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: shift in my mind to say, Okay, I am an artist.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I do care about this, and you know, I had
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to look at the core of like why I do
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what I do anyway, you know, And you know, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: had to. I realized that I have respect, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, okay, cool, respect for it,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like people haven't respect for you. Yeah, And I realized
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I found like a new confidence in music that without
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: ego though, it's confidence of my love for something. It's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: like I could be confident because I'm someone who loves
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: music and that's right. Get my confidence because I realize
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who do this shit for
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the wrong reasons, you know. But I'm like, I'm a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: person that would be doing this shit regardless of the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: number one, regardless of the Grammy nominations, Like I would
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: still be in the studio making music because that's just
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: what I do. I wonder, you know, because I always
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: see that with like extreme extremely gifted talented individuals, the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: thing that they suffer from the most is motivation, because
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you know, how they say a hard work beats talent.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: When talent doesn't work hard. Most people who aren't super
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: talented have a crazy work ethic, you know, because of
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the lack of talent. But people who got that super
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: talent don't necessarily have the work ethic, and they got
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to motivate themselves to get up and go do what
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: comes easy to then, yeah, you know, I definitely got
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to find it for myself, Like, okay, but I try
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to make something every day or this is a beat
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: or just a melody on a song. I'm always going
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you need more breakups? Or what more breakups? No more breakups?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You're enjoying a single life, yeah, you know, and knowing
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that you can always double back. Yeah, but I'll be
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: falling in love though. So it is really are you
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a cancer custom? No, okay, I'm a taurist custom. Okay, okay.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So I feel like my Gemini is very adventurous, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: then my tourists I got a tourist moon and that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: type of shit, and my tourist moon just be like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: just chill with this person. They got enough, they're comfortable.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, you're right, I'm got up and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you're a problem. I know you're type bro, you're a problem, okay,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: y'all this earthy shit. People fall in love with you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: only to just leave them high and dry. I don't
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: write a song about it. I don't leave people high
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and drive Charlotte nine, I really don't. I'd be I'd
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: be caring, as you tell them, and that's exactly why
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they be in the feelings, I'd be I'll not really
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: be caring, Okay, caring, caring? So you can't you care
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: about everything there? You care about all your past relationships. Definitely, Okay, definitely. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the last one. I'm sure we're gonna be friends soon
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: or later, you think so. Yeah, I don't learn, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I hope you learned the rapping this record about you. Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I would love that. I would absolutely love that you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: feel like and you said this on Sunshine, like trying
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to keep your emotions in check? Is that something you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: feel like you do in relationships? You don't want to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: fall in love or you just can't help it. I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feel like I do. I love falling in love, So
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know either it's real or you think it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: more like lust. That's the thing. I don't think I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: fall in love before. Okay, you just said you like
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: falling love. I called myself. I called myself that you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: told me you loved me. It feels like love in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the moment, but it does feel like love in the moment,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: but it does turn out to be you know something else.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: It's like when Scooby do you know when they got
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the monstro on, it's like love on his face and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you take the mask off and it's like, oh, it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fucking must we got him. Wow, that's how it is.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You just pissed off every single pass boot. Well, the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: thing is, you know you haven't. I haven't fallen in love.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: There you go. But I'll still be like I still
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: love these people though, right I tell them like, yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I still tell them like I love you
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: though I don't know if I've been in love, but
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like what we've been through, you know, I still love.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I'm telling them stuff like you give them the world?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: How about that, Steve? I mean I will know you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: will give a state you after the world, a city state, world.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta give it the world to everybody on with.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like people around you have changed with
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: your success as a solo artist, You know, because now
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it's like he got money, he's number one, you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: going on he sold out tours and things are different.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm blessed with people that are not gassed
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: up by this ship at all, even my family like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: super regular, super regular, um, which and I think that's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: what makes it hard for me to be like I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: don't know the difference between any of this stuff because
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the tone of my life is still the same. Like
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: still my friends, we do the same things. My family
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: still treats me the same. Like, yeah, what about labels
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: just as a person, as a pro Like what do
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you label yourself? Because you see bios and they'll say, oh,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: he's he's he's black, he's Filipino, he's bisexual, it's like
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all these things. Yeah, man, I'm just Steve. There's any
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of that stuff affect the content of your music or
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the just it's like not love is love, like you know, yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I'm one of those people
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that are less vocal and talking about what I'm doing,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: but rather like walking like everything, you like, whatever I'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: feeling at the time, whatever I believe, you know, I'm met,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just walk in it and you're gonna feel it. Rather
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: than being like I'm doing this, I'm doing that, you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: should do this, and I'm gonna do this and I'm
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: spread it. I'm like, I just want to exist, Like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that's always been my goal. I just want to exist.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for nobody. I want to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: speak for myself. I just want to be peaceful and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just leave me a funck alone, because I feel like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: all of that could be a lot of pressure when
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you too much, when you got to speak for all
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of these different communities. Yeah, And the thing is, it's like,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't, Like we all have so many
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: different upbringings and stuff. So who am I to assume
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know your experience, you know, and put it in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: this box of experiences and claim it as something you know.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I never tried to do that, So I'm like, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't let nobody do that for me. Yeah, you
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: said you've been doing this obviously, we know since you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was seventeen years old, and you've met a lot of
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: people already, even at an early age. So what's been
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: exciting for you? I saw you on the cover a billboard,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you know, and that interview had to be really fun
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and dope for you. But what excites you, Like, when's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the last time you fanned out? M what excites me?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I really don't know. I mean I think just making
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: music with different people. H something made me excited. But
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: it's too early to speak on right now. But what's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: your name? It's just it's an artist. She just hopped
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: on one of my songs. Oh it's not out it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: not out here. Literally, she just sent me the version
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: last night, so I can't talk about it. Yeah, it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a new song, it's a new song. Nah, it was
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the album. I wanted her the album.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it for yet, but so the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: album came out obviously, and um yeah I was. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: was talking to my label before like hey, I really
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: want to get this girl on this song, like I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: love this, I love her, and then it didn't happen
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in time, and then after album dropped, she's like she
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: loves a song. Wow, um wait to hear you and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: be honest collaborator. Yeah with me and Red went crazy,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be incredible. Yeah, you said it basketball be incredible.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Do you find it easier to have to labor reach
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: out or do you ever try to just DM people
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: because sometimes I'm straight up. I've always been like straight
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: artist artists, there's only been let's see, Yeah, I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: only Solange hit me up through my manager, but after
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: we met, it was a straight artist artists connection. But
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I prefer to be in touch with whoever I'm working
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: with because I feel like my artists so close to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: me that I don't like to work through people. So
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna appreciate this interview in the future. And the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: reason we're going to appreciate this interview because I know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: what type of artists you are. You're gonna blow up
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna be able to find you. You're gonna
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: disconnect from the world, and you're gonna be one of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: those mysterious What happened is Steve lazy guys all you
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: want to hear his music and nothing else and touring
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you you predicted that. Yeah, I do plan on doing
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that gets tiresome right a little bit. Yeah, that perception
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of self shit, Bro, I'm always trying to run away
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: from that. I need it, though, But I am honored
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to be here. You know, I was really nervous. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: was like, man, Charlotta, Agne's gonna control me. Bro, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: don't know. I was like, damn, he gonna find something.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: He's gonna fucking yeah, but no, it's been chill. Do
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you enjoy social media? I think you do a good
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: job on yours. Yeah. No, I feel like I enjoy
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: watching the chaos. I like keeping around Kanye, You're gonna
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: be right in the midst of it. Oh no, no,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: are you gonna keep that tattoo? Yeah, it's a fun story.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Tell my kids. So was it like just a random
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: let's all just get the us. Yeah, we just drinking
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: some cats amigos, shooting those shades. I came randomly with
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the hell of shooting shades his those easy got you
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: got you got you guys. So he was doing like
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: a campaign for those. So I was just shooting those,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: taking photos and then the homegirl Mas was there and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: we just ended up getting me tattoos. Who that was it?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It was like a collective we all gonna do this
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: type of thing. I'm in music or UZI afterwards, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, did what was there something about we're
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: here forever? UZI said that technically yeah? Yeah, that means
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like through music and art, Yeah you art? Yeah, yeah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: got you got you guys? Yeah, you said you and
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Uzi recorded music afterwards. Yeah, we did. Wow, we did.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: How many songs? Bro we pushed out like five? Wow?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: For whose project? Just in general, well, UZI just make
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: music and then that's it. Is he one of your
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: closest people in this game. No, I haven't before that moment.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Uzi for a couple of years, probably
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. I met Uzi in the studio working
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: on Neon Guts, actually working on the what that song?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Neon Guts? Yea oh okay, okay, okay, okay okay, him
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and Frell I met both of them that day. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that was the last time I saw Uzi really, yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and so it was it was good to see him.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: We always keep in touch though. Um y'all had a
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: very good relationship with Mac Miller too. Yeah, that's first
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: time I heard about the Internet being with Mac. Yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that was like one of the first like celebs I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: ever worked with. I was like, whoa when he embraced y'all.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: He saw y'all online or well, he was friends with
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the Internet before I came around. So I think they
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: had just came up. They was working on music together. Um,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I think when I came around, they were like on
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the Space Migration tour, but they were his backing bend,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: you know. Um, so they have been great friends with
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Mac and I was kind of new coming around that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Um he embraced me to um. Yeah, that was really sweet. Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: all right, let's get out of here. It's ready to go.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I'm having fun. I can keep going, man, y'all got
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: some more questions from me. Y'all want to want to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: leave now? I actually have to go do an interview
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Good Day DC Live. Okay, don't blame me, no, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I really did enjoy having you here. I do love
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the project, you know. Um, I could tell you I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: love fuchet on there. I think that was a lab
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: like I said, you know, I'm a girl, so that's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: like my you know. No, she wrote like half the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: album with me. Okay, yeah, that's dope. And then the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: other one I'm buttons oh fire, Yeah damn that's cool.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You like those? Yeah? Thank you so much, so thank
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you so much for coming through. And I hope that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: when you decide not to do no more stuff, you
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: still come up here. I'm gonna come no for real,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I doubt it, but it's going to be a pleasure
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to watch. No, I'm serious. I'm a fan of the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. It's like easy for me to be here.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, as you know, it's no longer. Yeah, it's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you made it a lot of stuff about
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to change. Angela leaves. Yeah. Wow, so this is kind
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of like conic Yeah, that's why I wanted to make
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: sure you got here before I left. Oh we could
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: do it. Damn, that's really special. Thanks for having me.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It's Steve Lacy y'all, twenty four years old. Can you
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: believe it? You are so much on the way. So congrats,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys.