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What REALLY happened with the BYD Shark controversy · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 2: In a Driver's Show special.
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  Speaker 2: So should we give just everyone in the room a
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  Speaker 2: of lawyers present, and I know.
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  Speaker 2: Moment, Yes, Daniel, Sorry, obviously there's a multiple members of
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  Speaker 2: our legal team here. Toadfish from Neighbors, thanks for coming along,
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  Speaker 2: the bald guy from Law and Order, cheers, Buddy, the
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  Speaker 4: So today we're going to be chatting by D Shark
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  Speaker 4: and the controversy along with the other plug in hybrid
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  Speaker 4: uts that are coming.
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  Speaker 2: So now a bit of backstory, right, So BYD released
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  Speaker 2: their Shark six. There's a lot of excitement about this
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  Speaker 2: as we record right now, you can definitely place on
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  Speaker 2: an order. They are starting to deliver them, possibly to
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  Speaker 2: custom it up in Brisbane. As in the last week
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  Speaker 2: or so, Paul, you put out a video for your
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  Speaker 2: review and it's rubbed a few people the wrong way.
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  Speaker 2: Let's explain why.
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  Speaker 3: So the collective.
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  Speaker 4: Videos that we've now published have over a midion views,
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  Speaker 4: so they've been very widely watched. So backstory is, as
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  Speaker 4: the Shark was getting released, we contacted bid on a
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  Speaker 4: number of occasions asking if we could borrow one to
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  Speaker 4: drive at the proving ground because they had an influencer
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  Speaker 4: event at like an off road thing, and then they
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  Speaker 4: had another event at Broken Hill where they were doing
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  Speaker 4: the national launch.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so the launch was a Broken Hill and what
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  Speaker 2: was this other influencer event.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the influencer event was that during the time
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  Speaker 4: of the launch, no beforehand, several weeks beforehand, so they
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  Speaker 4: kept telling me, no, you can't have a car because
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  Speaker 4: they're not eight R complied yet. And I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: fair enough. I guess that just means you can't drive
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  Speaker 4: it on a public road. And they're like, yep, can't
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  Speaker 4: do that. I was like fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: And anyway, so we're passionately waiting and as the event
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  Speaker 3: for Broken Hill was coming up, I.
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  Speaker 4: Started receiving countless emails from these influencer agencies asking me
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  Speaker 4: to attend and to produce video content and how much my.
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  Speaker 3: Fee would be and they are real Yeah, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: I get these a lot from different organizations, but this
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  Speaker 4: one was specifically for that launch. They talked about Broken Hill.
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  Speaker 4: They wanted to know what I was going to produce,
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  Speaker 4: how much I was going to charge, And I replied
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  Speaker 4: and said, no, I'm not interested. We already have someone
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  Speaker 4: going to cover it as a journalist. I'm not going
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  Speaker 4: to attend now as well, and I definitely am not
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  Speaker 4: going to accept money to attend.
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  Speaker 2: And so the journalists who attended to Big Clear was
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  Speaker 2: not paid, no, just by byd to be there. They
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  Speaker 2: were paid as a journalist from Currents.
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  Speaker 4: The same way that we would cover any other event
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  Speaker 4: and anyway. I then started getting more emails, and as
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  Speaker 4: the event drew near, I got an email with an
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  Speaker 4: offer for forty thousand dollars to attend this event, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck is this? So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, that's weird, and I replied again, and I'd
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  Speaker 4: replied like three or four times by this point. They
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  Speaker 4: kept coming from different people and different agencies.
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  Speaker 2: So before that email with the forty grands, did you
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  Speaker 2: get you did get offers of money to be there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were asking how much I wanted to charge
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  Speaker 4: so anyway, ignored all of those the event went ahead
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  Speaker 4: and didn't think anything of it. I then got in
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  Speaker 4: touch with someone senior at BYD who said, hey, we've
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  Speaker 4: got a car that we can give you. It's a
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  Speaker 4: pre production car and I said, no, dramas, let me
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  Speaker 4: know where I can pick it up. And they go, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not registered and we don't have eight R compliance yet.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, so what does that mean. They go, well,
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  Speaker 4: it needs to be transported there. So our expense car
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  Speaker 4: expense expense. I hired a tow truck and towed the
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  Speaker 4: car from Clayton where it was located, to.
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  Speaker 3: The proven ground.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, we got rained out that day so we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: film anything. So I towed the car back to some
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  Speaker 4: third party supply that BOID was doing business with, and
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  Speaker 4: one or two weeks later, when the car was available again,
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  Speaker 4: I again paid to have the car towed out to
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  Speaker 4: the proving ground and it was picked up, this time
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  Speaker 4: from another aftermarket company that was getting components for it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, can I just say, can I pull you up
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  Speaker 2: on that? Let me press pause on what that actually is,
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  Speaker 2: because you're on your expense paying for that car to
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  Speaker 2: be transported after you use it to potentially a manufacturer fit.
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  Speaker 3: Out company, very company of something.
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  Speaker 2: It's obviously doing work on this car, and that was
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  Speaker 2: only your dime. Yeah, which interesting.
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  Speaker 4: The car had to go somewhere, so I would have
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  Speaker 4: had to pay to either take it back to wherever
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  Speaker 4: their place is.
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  Speaker 3: Good point, but I was like a bit weird.
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  Speaker 4: But whatever, I'll just do it. So anyway, when we
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  Speaker 4: shot the content, the outcome of it was I thought
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  Speaker 4: the car was fantastic, excellent value for money, great tech,
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  Speaker 4: and I was only limited to being able to drive
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  Speaker 4: it at the proving ground. So we did our off
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  Speaker 4: road review and discovered that it wasn't able to climb
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  Speaker 4: our fairly basic hill climb on our very like soft
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  Speaker 4: off road course, which is what we call it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a light off road thing.
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  Speaker 4: And it really struggled with rotating its wheels going up
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  Speaker 4: the hill. And I thought that perhaps it could be
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  Speaker 4: talk limited, or perhaps the traction control wasn't quite advanced.
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  Speaker 4: Tried a number of different modes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was going to say, you did try
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  Speaker 2: the I do laugh at the different modes. Sand. What
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  Speaker 2: is it like? Muddy land? Yeah, muddy land? Sand Land
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Candy Land.
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  Speaker 4: So tried, tried the different modes and didn't really have
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  Speaker 4: much success, and I was like, Yep, no dramas. The
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  Speaker 4: next day we filmed more content, this time a towing video,
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  Speaker 4: and when we did towing with the vehicle hooked up
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  Speaker 4: to the trailer dine, we ended up getting to the
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  Speaker 4: point where we had drained the batter to the point
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  Speaker 4: where it had reached its reserve limit. And one of
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  Speaker 4: the things people don't really understand with plug in hybrids.
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  Speaker 4: If you drive an outland a plug in hybrid, when
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  Speaker 4: it says the battery is empty, the battery isn't actually empty.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably got between zero and twenty percent of capacity
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  Speaker 4: still remaining in there, and it needs to have that
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  Speaker 4: capacity because a lot of these plug in hybrids, and
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  Speaker 4: the shark especially needs electricity to move from a standing
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  Speaker 4: start that the internal combustion engine cannot drive those wheels
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  Speaker 4: directly until it's up to a certain speed.
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  Speaker 2: So those internal combustion engines they kind of act like
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  Speaker 2: generators to feed the battery.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in the case of the shark, it does so
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  Speaker 4: it's basically charging the battery and its speeds of above
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  Speaker 4: seventy k's an hour, it can directly drive the front axle.
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  Speaker 4: So when we were towing with the trailer dine set
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  Speaker 4: at three killer utons, which is what we do for
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  Speaker 4: every car that we test with that trailer dine, we
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  Speaker 4: found that when the battery got down to that reserve
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  Speaker 4: started slowing from one hundred k's an hour down to
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  Speaker 4: about seventy and no matter how hard you hit the
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  Speaker 4: throttle wouldn't go any faster than seventy. It was basically
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  Speaker 4: fully exhausted and that was as fast as it was
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  Speaker 4: going to go. So anyway, we published all these videos
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  Speaker 4: and then we published follow up videos about why we.
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  Speaker 3: Thought perhaps the thing wasn't working.
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  Speaker 4: Thinking that it could be software related or potentially it
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  Speaker 4: was talk limited because this vehicle doesn't have any stepped gears,
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  Speaker 4: so you are limited to the amount of talk that
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  Speaker 4: you can produce from those motors, and when you're on
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  Speaker 4: an incline and you have like the horizontal force of
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  Speaker 4: gravity acting against the car, it is limited in terms
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  Speaker 4: of where it can go. So anyway, we published follow
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  Speaker 4: up videos and basically after those follow up videos, a
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  Speaker 4: number of funny things happened. So our mate Kudoaks, who's
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  Speaker 4: been on the show before. He published some hilarious videos
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  Speaker 4: of his own where he was quite critical of the
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  Speaker 4: stuff that I had deduced, and he came up with
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  Speaker 4: some ghetto maths on why he pled testing was irrelevant.
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  Speaker 3: Now I did.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of weeks later, I stumbled across these videos.
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  Speaker 4: Someone sent them to me, and I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's interesting, and I'm like, look, if I'm wrong, happy
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  Speaker 4: to be wrong, happy to say yep, did a bad thing,
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  Speaker 4: We'll fix it. And anyway, I started doing the mats
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  Speaker 4: on my own because both John and I have engineering degrees,
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  Speaker 4: and we both are obviously great engineers, not working in
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  Speaker 4: engineering and haven't worked in engineering.
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  Speaker 2: For He's mostly great, You are not amazing.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, I started doing all the mats and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: he's completely muffed all of this stuff up. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's the way that he's viewed the problem is wrong,
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  Speaker 4: and as a result, he's out by factor about one
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  Speaker 4: hundred percent based on what I could tell. So I
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  Speaker 4: actually met up with him today. We shot a couple
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  Speaker 4: of videos. So they're going to go live. Perhaps they've
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  Speaker 4: already gone live, I don't know, But go to the
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  Speaker 4: Auto Expert channel, there's one on his and then there's
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  Speaker 4: going to be one on the Car Expert channel, so
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  Speaker 4: check those out in the interim as well. What had
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  Speaker 4: happened was Bid went back to the proving ground and
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  Speaker 4: it's funny, the proven ground is actually where they shot
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  Speaker 4: the commercial for the Bid Shark.
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  Speaker 2: So can you read this proven ground that you go
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  Speaker 2: to because I always thought that you guys just had
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  Speaker 2: access to it whenever you would be renting it or something,
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  Speaker 2: so obviously can be rented by anyone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so when we're there, we're typically sharing it with
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  Speaker 4: other brands and other people testing new cars and whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But then if they're shooting a commercial, they'll basically book
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  Speaker 4: the place out and then shoot like a proper commercial.
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  Speaker 4: And the funniest part is that in the commercial it
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  Speaker 4: actually traverses the hill, but it goes down the hill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like had you have tried to turn around
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  Speaker 2: and given that again. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, BYD came back to the proving ground and
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  Speaker 4: I suspect it was with revised software and they sent
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  Speaker 4: a video to the bid Owners group that showed Facebook
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  Speaker 4: vehicle going up the hill without any problems or like
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of wheel slip.
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  Speaker 3: But no problems.
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  Speaker 2: We presume it's it's BYD he sent that face.
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  Speaker 4: I think they mentioned the cause, so anyway, what they
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  Speaker 4: neglected to mention, And I don't know whether it was
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  Speaker 4: BID that requested this, It wasn't us, And as far
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  Speaker 4: as I could tell, no one had u the proving
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  Speaker 4: ground since we were there with the shark. We came
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  Speaker 4: back two weeks later to review the Prato with the
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  Speaker 4: Prato Kakadu, and I thought it was really odd at
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  Speaker 4: that point BID hadn't sent the video to the owners group.
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  Speaker 4: We got there and I'm like, something has changed here,
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  Speaker 4: and they had basically compacted the hill and put like
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  Speaker 4: a really hard compound on it, which meant that when
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  Speaker 4: I drove up it in the Prado, it was literally
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  Speaker 4: like just going up a driveway. It had no wheel slip.
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  Speaker 4: It just went up without any problems. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is going to look terrible on video because we
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  Speaker 4: went from having quite a struggle on the hill because
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  Speaker 4: it was quite rutted and really good vision to now
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  Speaker 4: having this hill that you could probably walk up. And
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  Speaker 4: so I basically dug the hill open again with the
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  Speaker 4: Prato so that it looked impressive on video and anyway
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  Speaker 4: went on with life. Then when Bid dropped that video,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, hold up a second, that's a totally different
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  Speaker 4: hill to the one that we tested on. And I thought, look,
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  Speaker 4: if you have changed the software, great, it means it'll
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  Speaker 4: go up there without problems. And I'm going to go
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  Speaker 4: back and test it at some point. But if you
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  Speaker 4: have asked them to compact the hill, what is the
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  Speaker 4: purpose of what you're doing? You know, it's is it
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  Speaker 4: to discredit me? Or is it that I don't understand
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  Speaker 4: it to be honest? And maybe and this is the
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  Speaker 4: other thing, maybe they didn't ask for it to be done.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this was just something that they've decided to do.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I hadn't done it for since we've been using
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  Speaker 4: it for two or three years.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why I thought it was just a little
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  Speaker 3: bit weird.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean it could take somebody going, can
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  Speaker 2: you guys maintain the grounds of this a little bit? Like,
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  Speaker 2: what the what the fuck is going on? This car
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  Speaker 2: is capable of doing such things, but can you at
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  Speaker 2: least like, don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, so I have said already that I would
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  Speaker 4: love to go take the car back again with production
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  Speaker 4: software and test it all one more time.
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  Speaker 2: It's presumably been given several updates.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the other thing just very quickly. That really
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  Speaker 4: annoyed me. When we did our review, I mentioned the
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  Speaker 4: stuff about all the emails I received on influences in
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  Speaker 4: the review. Now, I only did that because we were getting,
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  Speaker 4: I reckon three or four comments a day from people going,
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  Speaker 4: where's your shark review? Are you getting paid by Toyota?
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  Speaker 4: Are you getting paid by Ford to not review it?
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  Speaker 4: Are you getting paid by blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, for fox.
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  Speaker 4: Sake, we're not reviewing it because they haven't given us
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  Speaker 4: a car. I could just materialize a car. So in
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  Speaker 4: the video, I said, hey, the reason we hadn't reviewed
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  Speaker 4: it is because I didn't want to go to Broken Hill,
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  Speaker 4: to some curated place that they've set up to make
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  Speaker 4: the car look good.
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  Speaker 2: But also, you did send a journalist there, yeah, two
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  Speaker 2: Broken Hill, and they would have got car content out
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  Speaker 2: of that and somewhat of a review anyway. But I
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  Speaker 2: guess they just wanted to see your typical review on it.
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  Speaker 4: And from a video standpoint, it is our rule to
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  Speaker 4: just review cars at the proving ground.
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  Speaker 3: That way, they're all the same.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to go to some different location every
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  Speaker 4: time to have conditions I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So I mentioned also that would create bias as well.
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  Speaker 4: Ye, so I mentioned in that video about being off
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  Speaker 4: at all this money, and that given the volume of
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  Speaker 4: people that attended, I hadn't noticed anyone except one outlet,
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  Speaker 4: which was car Source, which is a YouTube channel. They
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  Speaker 4: were paid to be there.
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  Speaker 2: And then come to the party and told everyone they
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  Speaker 2: the thing they said in their thing that it's sponsored.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, And look, if you choose to believe what they say, great,
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't if you're paid to be there. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: of course you're going to say only great things. But
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  Speaker 4: the thing that annoyed me was that when I was
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  Speaker 4: told that because the cars don't have ADR complains, you
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  Speaker 4: can't drive them on a public road. Car Sales drove
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  Speaker 4: the car from Broken Hill to Adelaide on clearly public roads.
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  Speaker 4: Car Source drove the car on public roads. There's shots
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  Speaker 4: of them doing that on their own in the car.
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  Speaker 4: So that kind of annoyed me that I was misled
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  Speaker 4: with that information. So I basically had these people call
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  Speaker 4: me up the day after the review went live, chewing
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  Speaker 4: my ass out about these influencer things, claiming they knew
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  Speaker 4: nothing about it, and I'm like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I believe that, but I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That could very well be the case. However, I will say,
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  Speaker 2: like the the influencer payment thing, would they have that
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  Speaker 2: sort of money to give the like there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people at that event. That's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money to be spending on to get people down. I reckon, like,
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  Speaker 2: you fly generally with these press junkets. You fly people
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  Speaker 2: and you put them up in hotels, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these younger influencers just want to fucking want the
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  Speaker 2: content anyway, do you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not the one sending the emails. So so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was that was the by d Shark. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's an interesting thing because I'm just disappointed that
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  Speaker 4: it turned out the way that it did. We review
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  Speaker 4: every car the same and the funniest thing as well
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  Speaker 4: as I if I did have some inherent bias against
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  Speaker 4: we filmed drag race with my Raptor, wouldn't I just
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: let the Raptor win the drag.
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  Speaker 3: Race and just go oh slower than a raptor. That's
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  Speaker 3: that done. You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's just a bit silly when you get
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  Speaker 4: fanboys involved because they're so wetted onto the product they
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  Speaker 4: won't take criticism.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yes, here's here's what I'll say. I think this
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  Speaker 2: audience is an audience that either love the Shark six
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  Speaker 2: or hate the Sharks. The Shark six, I think you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get people who go, oh, bloody, bloody EV
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  Speaker 2: looks like a shitty EV hybrid, bloody Chinese car. Like
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  Speaker 2: You'll get that crowd, and you'll also get families who go, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's a really nice looking car. Paul said, it's got
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  Speaker 2: good tech. It does look really good. I love the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that's inside that. I love the fact that I
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  Speaker 2: can put my kids in the back of this and
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  Speaker 2: you know, we can go on adventures. Sixty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That is the big selling point of this car. Sixty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, right, And you get you get people out
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  Speaker 2: in the as we sort of briefly spoken about. You
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  Speaker 2: get people out in the West or whatever who like
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: put their money on something like this. They're going to
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: be passionate about it.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Look, and I said something like you know, ninety percent
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: of people that buy this it will be perfect for Yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: if you don't toe much and you don't go off road,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: yes much. Yes, this is going to be ideal because
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: you can basically everything with it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing too, people who do toe and people
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: who do go off road will not buy this car automatically.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: They will not. They've got their things that they're going
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: to buy.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: But they also shouldn't.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: The reason I say they shouldn't is because the other
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: two vehicles in this segment and how inherently different their
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: drive trains are. So GWM is about to launch the
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Cannon Alpha HI four dash T plug in Hybrid EV,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: which is basically a plug in hybrid electric version of
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the Cannon Alpha. That and the Ford Ranger plug in
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Hybrid are both fundamentally different in terms of the way
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: they operate. So where the Shark has a generator and
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: two electric motors that have no drive line between them,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: both the Cannon and the Ranger have an electric motor
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: that sandwiched between the engine and the transmission. So the
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: way that it works is your electric motor is able
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: to turn independent of the engine if it needs to,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: so you can basically use that to drive the car.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: And in the case of the Cannon, al for it
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: has an enormous battery something like thirty seven kilo whatde hours,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: which is bigger than the Shark, and almost three times
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: the size of the Ranger, which has a pretty pathetically
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: small battery in comparison. Now, the advantage of having the
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: rest of your drive line being the same is that
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: you have a gearbox, which means you can multiply talk.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: So fuck this knoto is going right through me. So
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the advantage of that is that with the Cannon or
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the Ranger, if you are making let's say four hundred
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: meters of talk at the crank, you are basically able
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: to multiply that through a transmission. You're able to multiply
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: that through a low range transfer case, and finally a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: diff and in the case of a Ranger raptor because
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: they publish this information, you can have a maximum crawl
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: ratio of something like sixty to one, which is enormous, right,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: which in a Shark you can't because you have no
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: reduction gear, you have no difflock, you have none of that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Whereas this GWM not only has a transmission, low range,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: has a front and rear diff lock, and it means
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you're going to be able to do some pretty seria
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: off roading. When it comes to towing, you're going to
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: be able to engine break, which you can't do in
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: the Shark. So there are a lot of advantages to
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: having these different types of drive lines. And in the
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: case of the GWM, we're talking about over three hundred
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: oh sorry, three hundred kilos of power seven hundred and
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: fifty meters of talk has a two liter engine instead
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: of one point five. The range is even bigger again
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: with a two point three lead vehicle to load capability,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: and the big thing with the GWM three and a
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: half tons towing, which again two and a half for
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the Shark.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, looks good price range. I guess we're presuming it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: going to be similar.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: They'll need to have it around the price of a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Shark for them to be competitive. Ford, I think is
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: probably going to be twenty or thirty thousand dollars more,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And I don't know who would bother buying that in comparison.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's a completely different product.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Ford has an issue as well, is that they're making
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: the vehicle in South Africa, which attracts a five percent
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: import tariff. Oh so automatically you've got a more expensive
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: proposition there.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the cannon right now.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Not so cool, isn't it. Yeah?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Not so nice looking in the horse pissed yellow. But yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: but man, it does look good. It does look good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Looks good on the inside to.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Big screen all terrain, something looks pretty neat.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah that looks good. Yeah. The tech they are throwing
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: in these cars now is yeah, it's wild. Yeah, it's wild.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: In closing, anything you want to say about the BYD
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Shark six, yeah, I think it's a great vehicle. So
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: me too.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You know, I think that most people that buy them
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: will be perfectly happy with them. I just think that
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: you should. And this is the same with any car
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: ever is test drive it. Make sure it suits your needs.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: If you do need to toe, make sure that you
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: try it out. Telling as well.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That is one thing that I found difficult was I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: did try to organize a test drive through BYD and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: they weren't offering that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Have you noticed that I think they've started doing that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, they've just started doing that. Well, yeah, I tried
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to do it myself. Hence way, I went to BYD
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Direct and they gave it to me nicely for the weekend.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: As you said, most people are going to be completely
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: happy with this. If they've got it on order, they've
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: got a right to be excited about. What I will
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: say is I find it really peculiar that you still
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: haven't been able to drive and what would you call it?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: The road going version?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Look to be honest, I think that they're probably pretty
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: pissed at.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Me, But surely on that respect, wouldn't they kind of go, fuck,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Paul's just published this out. We've got to get him.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: This is a software update. This is because of this,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it's because of this. We've got to get him the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: right one. Now, Guys, like, let's not dick around, take
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: a look at ourselves and go, how the hell did
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: this happen? Why did someone give him a pre production
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: car and let him put it under a stress test
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: when clearly it wasn't meant to. Let's rectify it, face
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: it head on and give you the road going car. Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm happy to test it as well. So hopefully
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: someone does get in touch at some point and then
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: we can get on with things, and then.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: We can talk about other stuff, yeah apart from this.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so anyway, Yeah, I thought people that enjoy that
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: just a little short episode. But yeah, the ins and
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: outs of the car industry, ain't he.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: The old bitchiness that goes on between you guys is unbelievable.
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• 21:13
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