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#312 - Troy Ave · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: All right, Blue Black Cap podcast in here, Troy Ave
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Speaker 1: is in the building.
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Speaker 2: Uh huh the hey that one God has gave paper shake.
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Speaker 2: New album is out, New album is out? Absolutely How
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Speaker 2: is everything?
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Speaker 1: Man? You are wrapped up in a lot of fucking
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of back and forth on the internet
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Speaker 1: right now. I just saw my Saundres drop the new
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Speaker 1: record today. Did you see that?
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Speaker 2: No? I don't. I don't. I don't entertain like Chash
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Speaker 2: you feel me, like when we don't stop to pick
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Speaker 2: the coins of the floor. It don't make no sense.
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Speaker 2: It's like, really, Chash, I've I'm I can honestly say
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Speaker 2: I'll go to the rest of my life without hearing
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Speaker 2: a song from a taxi Robert you feel me?
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Speaker 1: Put you put a record out about him though?
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Speaker 2: Right, He's no. I just talked about him being a
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Speaker 2: taxi robber when I make records these effects, I actually
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Speaker 2: robbed taxi drivers and he stole one hundred and three
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Speaker 2: thousand total, a walkie talkie and a go ring and
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Speaker 2: he just seven years in jail for that. So I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't listen to the music of somebody whose life is
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Speaker 2: worth fifteen dollars a year. It made no sense, and
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Speaker 2: I sugges you don't either, so you don't even know
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Speaker 2: w You just like consuming trash hip hop.
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Speaker 1: So if somebody this is you, you're not even like
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Speaker 1: let me just take a listen, bro, I never.
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Speaker 2: Like what the fuck am I listened to it for?
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I'm not like one of these.
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Speaker 2: When I tell you the type of music I listen to,
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Speaker 2: I listen to soul music. I listen to Tupac, I
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Speaker 2: listen to psy Like it's different. Shit. I don't just
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Speaker 2: be listening to rap, just listen to rap. I don't
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Speaker 2: give a fuck about that. I'd rather when I sit
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Speaker 2: in my pool in my house, I'm listening to fucking
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Speaker 2: You'll put eighties dance hits on like Scarf Fish doing it.
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Speaker 1: I just if someone, if someone put a whole song
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Speaker 1: together together by me, I'm at least listening to.
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Speaker 2: A can't listen to it because it's no there's nothing
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Speaker 2: nigga do. I don't have no skeletons in my closet,
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Speaker 2: can't nobody pull nothing like I'm I'm super authentic. Not
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Speaker 2: to say that like self god whatever. I'm just saying.
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Speaker 2: Like authentic is the fact that I'll be living in
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Speaker 2: my truth. So something that somebody's gonna says nothing that
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Speaker 2: you could come out and say to discredit me. This
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Speaker 2: person did this to me before, Like how somebody could
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Speaker 2: say chain or got wedgied and cut by boxing bar
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Speaker 2: and old and now it's a big thing. Or my son,
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Speaker 2: you're a taxi robber. You try to get it straight
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Speaker 2: from the incident. Now you're activist. Know you're a taxi
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Speaker 2: robber and a hater. You know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 2: what are they gonna say about your as I'm a
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Speaker 2: successful businessman. I own Lamborghinis and other farms. I got
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Speaker 2: thirteen properties, like I own trucking companies. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: got a restaurant businesses, Like, what are you gonna say
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Speaker 2: about me? I don't have a whole baby. Mom's like,
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Speaker 2: what's the shit you're gonna put unless you're gonna make
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Speaker 2: up some shit like or having an opinion that most
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Speaker 2: people don't share. So if what the fuck am I?
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Speaker 2: There's never gonna be no shocking shit that they gonna
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Speaker 2: say about me that I don't know about myself, and
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Speaker 2: it's not offensive. They're gonna try to make something up
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Speaker 2: and use it in an offensive way. I don't consume bullshit,
3:01
Speaker 2: but I don't eat junk.
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Speaker 1: For well, I think like a couple of things to
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Speaker 1: clear up, because I do think that now that obviously
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Speaker 1: the trial and you know everything is past, you could
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Speaker 1: you could speak the most part, for the most part.
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Speaker 2: I go to jail for no fucking I ain't gonna
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Speaker 2: say for no reason. But how long you are we'll see.
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Speaker 2: It'll be up to the judge. Maybe a year, maybe longer,
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe less. Maybe the judge would be like, you know,
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Speaker 2: you ain't been in no trouble before this or after this,
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Speaker 2: so you know it was isolated incident, a jealous bottom feeder,
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Speaker 2: preddie kidd fell and mans nigga hater that you know,
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Speaker 2: fucking gasoline on the fire.
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Speaker 1: So well, I think because it kind of helped me
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Speaker 1: walk me through this because tax Stones lawyer.
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Speaker 2: His name is Ratstone. We adjust people. Probably the guy's
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Speaker 2: in jail, fact you won, he's in jail. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: Banger's dad Bringer, it ain't no you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So it's levels levels to winning and ship you feel sure.
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Speaker 2: I had lost custody in my kids. I had to
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Speaker 2: fight for that. I had to pay over two hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand lawyer fees. Yes, all of this type of ship
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Speaker 2: that I had to go through my career was crippled,
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Speaker 2: like it ain't. You can't, you can't. I'm kicking the
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Speaker 2: fucking scumbag cocker roaches when they're down. You feel me,
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Speaker 2: I'm step on them. It's gonna be guts on the
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Speaker 2: bottom of my shoe. His name is Ratstone. He wrote
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Speaker 2: a letter to the judge and his whole defense was
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Speaker 2: that he didn't kill banger Troy Ab did it wrestle
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Speaker 2: for the gun and Troy Ab shot his friend. So
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Speaker 2: he's a fucking rat and he's a fucking cocker roach,
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Speaker 2: and he's a bottom feeder. And we need to remove
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Speaker 2: haters from the fucking community. We need to remove them.
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Speaker 2: They need to be treated with the same this thing
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Speaker 2: as we do fucking snitches that do crowns with their
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Speaker 2: homies and turn around and flip on them, as we
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Speaker 2: do it, child molests, as we do with rapists, all
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Speaker 2: these type of people, because hate is a cancer, and
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Speaker 2: it's just he was over to other people.
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Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna say. So I've this,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think that the one thing about this
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Speaker 1: gentleman is he does have a lot of industry friends, right,
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Speaker 1: And so me being somebody who was actually friends with Banga, right,
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Speaker 1: had a lot of love for you. I never was
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Speaker 1: like free dude, fuck that, like, dude killed my boy,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I personally like it
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Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm not in the situation. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't there, but like I think that the the I
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Speaker 1: do think that the reason why you're not necessarily going
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Speaker 1: through a lot of the backlash that like maybe a
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Speaker 1: guy like six ' nine went through, is because the situation,
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Speaker 1: at least how it's been explained, is you just cleared
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Speaker 1: your name up after a lawyer essentially wrote a letter
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Speaker 1: pinning everything on you.
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Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't so much lawyer, it was so much him.
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Speaker 2: You can't do anything without your lawyer's approval. You have
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Speaker 2: to give your lawyer this information. His lawyers is not
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Speaker 2: coming up with alleged CRuMs that we was involved in.
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Speaker 2: That's him being a god that's in the know of
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Speaker 2: street things, you know what I'm saying, It's not his
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Speaker 2: lawyer's not coming up with this info. So they wrote
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Speaker 2: a letter to the judge. But even before that the
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Speaker 2: whole defense was that, you know I it was your
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Speaker 2: av They said they got your ab out there shooting
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Speaker 2: on camera. You know what I'm saying, Like just cony
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Speaker 2: shit that we're not going for. And as far as
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Speaker 2: like me and six nine is solely different because six
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Speaker 2: nine is or was an active gang member. When you
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Speaker 2: in gang shit, that shit is in the streets. You
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Speaker 2: keep that shit in the streets. I don't care if
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Speaker 2: somebody rapes your mother, you go kill them or you
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Speaker 2: whatever happens to them. It don't be no police shit involved.
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Speaker 2: Oh my street business I kept in the streets. I
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Speaker 2: got shot when I was fifteen. Never heard about it.
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Speaker 2: It's in the streets. I barely don't even wrap about it.
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Speaker 2: I got shot my head on Christmas Day. I was there,
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Speaker 2: the Pope detective was at my best side. I ain't
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Speaker 2: have nothing to say because we kept that in the streets.
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Speaker 2: This ship is the Internet. This ship is the same
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Speaker 2: thing that. This is like a stalker, somebody who would
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Speaker 2: tweet somebody seven hundred and eighty times over a five
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Speaker 2: year period. This is craziness. It's like the person who
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Speaker 2: killed John Lennon that the bitch who killed Selena even
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Speaker 2: though she wasn't a stalker, she was an assistant. Like,
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Speaker 2: this is a totally different situation. You feel me just
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Speaker 2: started in the public, and you don't never allow nobody
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Speaker 2: to just say I'm gonna crash out, throw my life
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Speaker 2: away and I'm taking you down with me. Now, get
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Speaker 2: the fuck over me. You go off that bridge yourself,
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Speaker 2: don't get off my body.
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Speaker 1: Right right, right right. And I do think too, like
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Speaker 1: you know, you said letter aside that it was a
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Speaker 1: situation that was but I do think the letter kind
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Speaker 1: of like at least optically kind of like it's like, hey, definitely,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you want me to
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Speaker 1: just like go with what this letter says. You want
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Speaker 1: me to hold myself.
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Speaker 2: Down, you feel me? Yeah, you want to. You want
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Speaker 2: to play a fair You want to you want to
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Speaker 2: play a fair and decited that you know, I would
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Speaker 2: even let somebody determine the rules of engagement, the rules
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Speaker 2: of the game, you know what I'm saying. Which it happened,
8:03
Speaker 2: but then it's like, wait, hold on this. We both
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Speaker 2: in the ring box and this person took the gloves off,
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Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, they they spray some
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Speaker 2: shit in my eye. The fuck I'm supposed to do.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you because.
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Speaker 2: And the real ones is seeing that if you look
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Speaker 2: at the public opinion, even with people like my son
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Speaker 2: and generally he's nuts, the taxi Robert, He'll put up
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Speaker 2: a post and people will be under his comments like
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Speaker 2: fuck you talking about you. I have a real nigga.
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Speaker 2: He bugging. He did what most rappers talk about doing.
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Speaker 2: You want him to take the murder of his friend.
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Speaker 2: You want him to take attempt to murder on somebody
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Speaker 2: that shot him, and he took the gun from like
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Speaker 2: people in the comments. Even when Chaino put up a
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Speaker 2: post like these guys got to make their comments limited.
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Speaker 1: When you say channel, we're talking about Mano.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Manos Chanel, you know exactly who is the one
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Speaker 2: I love?
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Speaker 1: I love Mano.
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Speaker 2: Man I was just in, Uh, Mano doesn't love you,
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Speaker 2: you love him? He doesn't love you. That's solid. He's
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Speaker 2: a good guy, man good. What is he done? Good?
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Speaker 2: I mean what he does about the hood? I can't
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Speaker 2: speak to you help anybody in his community with that.
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Speaker 2: That's how you judge men, judging men's character by their actions.
9:03
Speaker 1: But you may not have great records together.
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Speaker 2: You guys, you've done favors for him, and I've and
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Speaker 2: I've done records and I've carried he.
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Speaker 1: On your album too.
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Speaker 2: No, he's on He wasn't in New York City album?
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Speaker 2: What was the record? You?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm thinking of project.
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Speaker 2: When I do albums, I'm meticulous with them. I'm thinking
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Speaker 2: about the record. I think people people I admire on
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Speaker 2: New York City the album, not just whoever.
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Speaker 1: Is you never admired main or ever?
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Speaker 2: Well? Because he's admired. I support it because he was
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Speaker 2: from from Brooklyn and he was coming up. I'm always
9:36
Speaker 2: support I show love, you know what I'm saying. Always
9:40
Speaker 2: I show love. That's how I'm gonna always show love.
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Speaker 2: So I brought his album when he came out. It
9:44
Speaker 2: was trash, you know what I'm saying. Trash though, Well,
9:48
Speaker 2: there's only one that I first album was great. It's
9:51
Speaker 2: first time on the album. Here we're gonna go with
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Speaker 2: the cat first. The first album was great. His debut
9:59
Speaker 2: album on a Lant it was crazy. The first album
10:01
Speaker 2: is great. It was great.
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Speaker 1: Bet is it better than get a record on there
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Speaker 1: called Soldier?
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Speaker 2: I bet you it is not better than And I'm
10:07
Speaker 2: not even gonna say classic like Outcast and Ship like that.
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Speaker 2: Since you saying the album album, no, I think this
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Speaker 2: is one of the greatest albums okay on the walls,
10:16
Speaker 2: So you don't got a bunch of albums.
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Speaker 1: Over here, not some here.
10:20
Speaker 2: It's better than but but I'm not gonna I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I think it's better by end. He could never do
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Speaker 2: nothing better than.
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Speaker 1: I think Menos first is better than that album from
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Speaker 1: nas his first album, because he's put out other albums
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Speaker 1: to empires.
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Speaker 2: Show what bro his first album was hard. We got
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Speaker 2: seriously looking to your we gotta look down slept on
10:39
Speaker 2: you only person saying that that's not true. I'm telling
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Speaker 2: you you and him's album is hard Bro. His first albums,
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Speaker 2: it's good. Take it told people getting the comings, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: tell me. And especially from New York.
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Speaker 1: My Bandana Soldier. He has some ship on that first alum.
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Speaker 2: So if you call his album great, what would you
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Speaker 2: call New York City album? If you had to rate them.
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Speaker 1: From one, I think it's a better album mains if
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Speaker 1: you have I want to see you know, I'm a
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Speaker 1: huge fan of New York City. I think that's your
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Speaker 1: best album.
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Speaker 2: I want to see that. I think, Yeah, you think
11:08
Speaker 2: you hate one yet, then that's more of everything. But
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Speaker 2: what when you say great album? If on scale of
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Speaker 2: one to ten, if New York City the album was
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Speaker 2: a ten or whatever you want to call it, what
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Speaker 2: would that album be? Because we got a deal in
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Speaker 2: facts here, We're gonna bring the factor show to my
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Speaker 2: god kept ship and we only our opinions always based
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Speaker 2: on facts.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So what would be we want to ring? Get
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Speaker 1: Richard Died trying to be a ten?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, a lot of things. I won't. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to say, like a nine point eight. I'm I'm okay,
11:38
Speaker 2: get Richard I trying, And I got a personal thing
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Speaker 2: with like fifty, Get.
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Speaker 1: Richard Die Trying as a ten. New York City album
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Speaker 1: for me is like a like a hard eight, okay.
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Speaker 1: And I think Maynos album is like a seven and
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Speaker 1: a half seven?
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Speaker 2: Are you shitting me? His first album is fire Bro,
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Pitchfork because Pitchfork actually work today. God,
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Speaker 2: they give people zeros.
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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of fucking Williamsburg, fucking Wienis and type pants,
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Speaker 1: fucking greating albums.
12:07
Speaker 2: You say it's a great album because it has right
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Speaker 2: out on that is it lyricism? It was.
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Speaker 1: It was a concept album Voice Records Records. It was
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Speaker 1: a good concept. It started off with him getting freed
12:23
Speaker 1: from jail. I liked the album.
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Speaker 2: Oh you want me to No, No, it's objective. I
12:27
Speaker 2: just want to know why your opinions like that because
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Speaker 2: I want it because people have opinions.
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Speaker 1: Why am I why are like first album?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I want like I No, I mean, I
12:35
Speaker 2: don't want to know anymore. But I just I was saying,
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Speaker 2: like your opinion, like I think it was. I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you why I love YG album, his first album, Classics.
12:44
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, it's about it. That's like a
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Speaker 2: nine point two when we say greats and classics. Now,
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Speaker 2: most people will tell you New York City album is
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Speaker 2: the classical? Made you what I deal? It is classical NEWPAP.
12:52
Speaker 2: That's what most people will tell you. It was the classics. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna toot my own on my new ship.
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Speaker 2: But I've never heard nobody say his it was a classic.
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Speaker 2: And we gotta be careful with the titles that we
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Speaker 2: give the.
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Speaker 1: Well I didn't say I didn't take classic. I said
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Speaker 1: it was a great album.
13:06
Speaker 2: Though we what I mean great album? So we have
13:10
Speaker 2: bad albums, good albums, great albums, something else and the classics.
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Speaker 1: Or yeah, so it's mid, it's a great album.
13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we got two levels above its mid, two
13:19
Speaker 2: levels above it, two levels below. I just want with
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Speaker 2: hip hop is too much gray areas, Like when you
13:24
Speaker 2: see it's all objective hip hop. This is all subjective
13:28
Speaker 2: to like what people.
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Speaker 1: There's people who who love Playboy Cardi. I don't agree
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Speaker 1: with them.
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Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing. It's subjective. We have if
13:37
Speaker 2: we have a if we have a grading system and
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Speaker 2: a formula.
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Speaker 1: There's no formula because everyone's graating system and formula is different.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. That's what we need
13:46
Speaker 2: if we have a great somebody. Some people might say,
13:48
Speaker 2: like I might be like, yo, Obvious is my favorite player.
13:52
Speaker 2: I know Jordan is better, but Obviously is my goat.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But I can say why, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Jordan is better for these reasons, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: top fifty.
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Speaker 2: I was like, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, I heard it,
14:42
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Speaker 1: went on a Maino tangent Chanino. His name is Chaino.
20:39
Speaker 2: When I was I just came from the Vegas fight
20:41
Speaker 2: with uh Javonce Davis and Ryan Garcia. I'm on the
20:46
Speaker 2: flow seats. You know what I said is no hate?
20:49
Speaker 2: Is it caused money to be a hatero or enemy
20:51
Speaker 2: or operama. I'm on the flow seats. I'm walking around
20:53
Speaker 2: the whole shit. I woke the people yelling chain O,
20:57
Speaker 2: chain O, your choice. I keep doing what the fuck
20:59
Speaker 2: you doing? Everybody, celebrities. I love what you y'all introduce
21:02
Speaker 2: to myself to people who I didn't think, No, I
21:05
Speaker 2: don't understand like that, fuck with you? What's the origin
21:07
Speaker 2: of the of the of the Maino things? They could
21:09
Speaker 2: go watch the documentaries, So listen.
21:11
Speaker 1: I saw a video where you were, where you were
21:13
Speaker 1: on your Instagram, where you were claiming that Mano was
21:18
Speaker 1: wearing the same Cuban link.
21:20
Speaker 2: I didn't claim that. He claimed the people claim that.
21:24
Speaker 2: The people claim that. The people went in his comments
21:26
Speaker 2: and said he had a chainity that he but fate.
21:30
Speaker 1: But to me, when you're pointing out just the like
21:34
Speaker 1: Cuban link.
21:36
Speaker 2: That's like, that's a little in the Cuban link.
21:38
Speaker 1: But there were some of the things you pointed out
21:40
Speaker 1: that were like, yo, look you still got the same
21:41
Speaker 1: Cuban link.
21:42
Speaker 2: I never say anything that's the people, but to.
21:44
Speaker 1: Say to say, like one Cuban link and another Cuban
21:47
Speaker 1: link are the same.
21:47
Speaker 2: But we're not talking. He's talking about the Jesus peace
21:51
Speaker 2: actually whatever he pulled out way in the back of
21:53
Speaker 2: that minute running back.
21:54
Speaker 1: But that's different from I saw a post of yours
21:57
Speaker 1: where you were talking about look he's wearing that same
22:00
Speaker 1: pain link without the peace.
22:01
Speaker 2: I've never I've never said that that's a fact. I
22:04
Speaker 2: know what I say. I've never said that. There's a
22:07
Speaker 2: documentary short that shows everything. Who's putting it together?
22:11
Speaker 1: These are you putting together?
22:12
Speaker 2: These? Do the people?
22:13
Speaker 1: Man?
22:14
Speaker 2: The people? I got the fact those show podcasts, even
22:16
Speaker 2: the title I did with me as Batman. Everybody knows
22:19
Speaker 2: Batman is Bruce Wayne. He has beautiful women, he lives
22:23
Speaker 2: luxurious houses, jobs, nice cars, and there's a bunch of
22:26
Speaker 2: bottom feet of haters, the Penguin Bane Joker. That's where
22:31
Speaker 2: all these people are. So let me ask you Destroit
22:33
Speaker 2: because the people put that together. I said on the
22:35
Speaker 2: fact of show, I feel like Batman fact those show
22:38
Speaker 2: Real One viewers. I need y'all make me a cover
22:40
Speaker 2: like that with all these haters, and he did it.
22:42
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are at times participating in
22:47
Speaker 1: unnecessary drama for someone as that's as rich as you
22:51
Speaker 1: are and for someone who's been through as much as
22:53
Speaker 1: you've been through.
22:54
Speaker 2: Well, that's all a part of perspective.
22:57
Speaker 1: Listen, like, like you got some try to kill you
23:00
Speaker 1: on Christmas. Obviously the shooting that happened that we all
23:03
Speaker 1: know about. You know what I'm saying. I feel like
23:07
Speaker 1: you're kind of like this the court case got wrapped
23:12
Speaker 1: up and you just kind of dive right into a
23:14
Speaker 1: whole lot of fucking drama, and I just feel like.
23:18
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you that that's your perspective, not
23:21
Speaker 2: really thoroughly knowing me before music the shit happened to
23:24
Speaker 2: me that you see, it's just highlighting now because I'm
23:27
Speaker 2: entertainer and I got some fame in a little bit
23:30
Speaker 2: of celebrity, but I really come from the streets and
23:33
Speaker 2: trying to make it out of that. It was hard
23:35
Speaker 2: for me to get to even this point of that
23:37
Speaker 2: point of you knowing me. I've been through way worse
23:40
Speaker 2: shit before I got to that point of you knowing me.
23:43
Speaker 2: So now that you see this in this highlighted, it
23:46
Speaker 2: just it's blown up more. But I haven't been through
23:48
Speaker 2: as far as what I was. Where I'm coming from,
23:50
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I'm not talking about financially. I'm
23:53
Speaker 2: talking about as far as things with people. When you
23:56
Speaker 2: one of those guys, as far as like I've always
23:58
Speaker 2: been like a popular person, you know, I've always worked,
24:01
Speaker 2: like from high school whatever. There's been people that didn't
24:04
Speaker 2: like me for certain reasons. When I got in the street,
24:06
Speaker 2: I'm getting more money than people. I'm driving next to cars.
24:09
Speaker 2: They ain't like me for certain reasons, and shit happens
24:12
Speaker 2: in there and you got to protect yourself. But at
24:15
Speaker 2: this point saying that, do I think I'm getting in
24:19
Speaker 2: unnecessary stuff? It's all a matter of perspective. It's like
24:22
Speaker 2: it's there's fucking a full time champion like Klay Thompson
24:28
Speaker 2: have to show his rings to somebody. Somebody say, Clay,
24:32
Speaker 2: you're above that. Why are you doing that? It's sole
24:34
Speaker 2: a matter of perspective. You feel what I'm saying, there's
24:36
Speaker 2: Kobe the Black Mamba have to go off and play
24:39
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving for token shit like bro, I'm a chimp.
24:42
Speaker 2: I don't got to play you at this Olympic shit.
24:44
Speaker 2: Because it's all a matter of perspective, right, I don't.
24:47
Speaker 2: I think that with me, I would be too, I
24:50
Speaker 2: would be above. And I've never have started any issues
24:53
Speaker 2: with people, but sometimes when people come to me, and again,
24:58
Speaker 2: I don't want you or any viewers to only look
25:01
Speaker 2: at or lock into the issues that I do take
25:05
Speaker 2: on because mad issues come across my desk and I
25:08
Speaker 2: fucking ignore them. So if I ignore twenty issues or
25:12
Speaker 2: people taking shots at me and this songs and trying
25:15
Speaker 2: to destroy my character, if I ignore that and I
25:19
Speaker 2: choose to you know what, fuck these twenty people, their
25:22
Speaker 2: roach guts on the bottom of my shoe. Let me
25:24
Speaker 2: deal with these other four or five people. And I
25:28
Speaker 2: think that's my that's my prerogative to do that. You
25:33
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, It's like a fuck it, and
25:35
Speaker 2: I'll maybe I'll deal with those other people later, maybe
25:37
Speaker 2: I won't. But perspective is saying, if you have a perspective,
25:41
Speaker 2: it all about where you're from your experiences with life
25:44
Speaker 2: and whatever. For sure, jay Z was top of the top.
25:48
Speaker 2: He didn't have to go at us. He was already
25:50
Speaker 2: ahead of him. He didn't have to do many things
25:52
Speaker 2: that he done. He didn't have to do that. Jay
25:55
Speaker 2: Z was ahead of us. I'm from New York. I
25:56
Speaker 2: noticed he got to the point and he said, yeah,
25:59
Speaker 2: now I'm a really step on his neck. This when
26:01
Speaker 2: Nas started putting out weak music, you know what I mean,
26:04
Speaker 2: no disrespecting knowledge, but it wasn't like and then he
26:08
Speaker 2: came back with that still madic shit, like fuck you
26:10
Speaker 2: talking about this is me?
26:12
Speaker 1: So my thing is is like you talked about like
26:14
Speaker 1: the new album and how it's like one of your
26:16
Speaker 1: best bodies of work. You think it's your best body
26:17
Speaker 1: of work.
26:18
Speaker 2: It is my best body of work because I've been
26:20
Speaker 2: through the like New York City. The album took my
26:23
Speaker 2: whole life to make that that a major without to
26:25
Speaker 2: deal most so major. What I did is the album
26:27
Speaker 2: I always wanted to make because it's a combination and
26:29
Speaker 2: a culmination of everybody I grew up listening to him
26:34
Speaker 2: wanting to hear and rap and all my favorite rappers.
26:37
Speaker 2: I put Fat Joe on that ship. I had fifty
26:40
Speaker 2: cent on every pushing teeth fab like whoever everybody was
26:44
Speaker 2: on this shit, nor Prodigy, you know what I'm saying.
26:47
Speaker 2: I made that album because I had the ability and
26:49
Speaker 2: access to people. Ray Kwan ray Kuan one of my
26:52
Speaker 2: favorite rappers for sure, you feel me. So that's that album.
26:55
Speaker 2: New York City was the album that I did for
26:57
Speaker 2: the city. That can't that that'd be one of my
27:00
Speaker 2: greatest albums of classic albums to people from New York
27:03
Speaker 2: City because I did that for the city. I took
27:06
Speaker 2: my shine in my highlight and I sacrificed for the city.
27:08
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to appeal to people everywhere else because
27:11
Speaker 2: I'm like my city needs this. I'm not gonna jump
27:14
Speaker 2: on the south beat like everybody else is doing just
27:16
Speaker 2: to try to get on. I'm a sacrifice and I'm
27:18
Speaker 2: a stand in tentoes down and rep for my city.
27:20
Speaker 2: But this album did Hate I won. This is me
27:23
Speaker 2: going through my most tragic time in life, going through
27:27
Speaker 2: the lowest points in life. You know what I'm saying,
27:29
Speaker 2: like total in the public eye and then overcoming that
27:33
Speaker 2: and this city is like it ain't just dead.
27:35
Speaker 1: Hate.
27:35
Speaker 2: I wins ded hated. We won. Anybody that overcame some shit.
27:39
Speaker 2: If you woke up this morning and you got some
27:41
Speaker 2: level of success and his people hating on you, and
27:43
Speaker 2: you still breathing, still carrying on as dead hated, we
27:45
Speaker 2: won real shit. And it ain't nobody in hip hop
27:48
Speaker 2: history that could has gone through the shit that I
27:51
Speaker 2: went through, lived, survived, and then been able to put
27:54
Speaker 2: an album out with it.
27:56
Speaker 1: Do you think that at times the spectacle if some
28:02
Speaker 1: of these beats you're wrapped up and you might take
28:05
Speaker 1: away from people like diving into the album?
28:08
Speaker 2: You know?
28:08
Speaker 1: Fuck Nigga's the opposite.
28:10
Speaker 2: Fuck No, I don't. I'm gonna be honest. I don't
28:14
Speaker 2: even take the tongue like, like I said, I'm one
28:17
Speaker 2: of the most authentic and raw artists to where I
28:24
Speaker 2: don't pick and choose my battles. I don't say, oh,
28:27
Speaker 2: come on, guys, this might be not politically correct right now,
28:30
Speaker 2: let's not do this like I take the battles as
28:34
Speaker 2: they come if I have time for it, you know
28:36
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So like I even think did hat
28:38
Speaker 2: I win has allowed people to see how lyrical choice
28:41
Speaker 2: averge I mean real life lyrical like, since you niggas
28:46
Speaker 2: like writing letters, higgo win did hater?
28:48
Speaker 1: I won?
28:49
Speaker 2: I'm a boss. You would bump like the breakdown of
28:53
Speaker 2: that you know hip hop on that album. I said,
28:58
Speaker 2: since you niggas like writing letters, one get a pin.
29:01
Speaker 2: I write this as a free man. Paid half a
29:04
Speaker 2: mill out the pen. I'm out of your lead. Don't
29:07
Speaker 2: pretend bowling on point like a pin. I sat many months.
29:10
Speaker 2: You rode to the judge soon as you walked in.
29:12
Speaker 2: Mister Collins and his entourage me doing a lot of shootings,
29:16
Speaker 2: a recent one outside of New York City club pursue them,
29:19
Speaker 2: and now it's people suing, trying to take all I
29:21
Speaker 2: stack got attempted murder because I took the gun from
29:23
Speaker 2: him and bust back. These ain't no made up raps.
29:26
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing the facts. I'm the king of the underground.
29:29
Speaker 2: He's just the underground rat. I rose up above the
29:32
Speaker 2: road and sty trying to pull your boy back with
29:34
Speaker 2: a coach shoulder cold to hand. Whoever reaching gets smacked,
29:37
Speaker 2: Smitret Brerett r L. I'm with w Iron, Lambo's and
29:44
Speaker 2: Bentley's where I dwell. It's a mansion for sale. I
29:47
Speaker 2: bought that you just brought to a cell. A real
29:49
Speaker 2: nigga lives on while a fake one dies in jail.
29:53
Speaker 2: I took the actual court documented statement from Ratstone and
29:59
Speaker 2: put it in a song and made it lyrical. Mister
30:01
Speaker 2: Collins and his uncle rive doing a lot of shooting.
30:03
Speaker 2: It's not made up ship that people do. People make
30:06
Speaker 2: up words, bowling on point like a pin. Everybody's no bars,
30:10
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30:21
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30:24
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30:27
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30:29
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30:32
Speaker 2: won't get or understand. So now when you got the
30:35
Speaker 2: light on you and shit, or you got more eyes
30:38
Speaker 2: on you, people like, oh shit, I ain't know what
30:39
Speaker 2: your avers that dope and I see it. I got
30:43
Speaker 2: a podcast called Facto show. I see it in fact
30:46
Speaker 2: because now I put out old records that I put
30:48
Speaker 2: out a year ago, and motherfucker, yo, this is crazy. Yo.
30:51
Speaker 2: I put it out a year ago. You didn't see it,
30:53
Speaker 2: then it's cool you wasn't paying attention. I don't. I
30:55
Speaker 2: don't hope. Yeah, nothing. You late to the party, But
30:57
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31:00
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31:02
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this man, obviously uh rest in
31:05
Speaker 1: peace to Hovain man who passed away last year from
31:08
Speaker 1: a heart attack. Do you after when you lose somebody
31:12
Speaker 1: like that? Did it make you regret any of the
31:16
Speaker 1: stuff that you put into the air about Hovain?
31:19
Speaker 2: Nah? I didn't, because I put nothing but facts into
31:22
Speaker 2: there about Hoven. What you don't what you don't know
31:25
Speaker 2: about Oven, You don't know the real You don't know
31:29
Speaker 2: the real him, And just like a lot of people don't.
31:31
Speaker 2: I was on Math HALFE podcasts and I had to
31:33
Speaker 2: correct somebody. They were saying yeah and a p I said, man,
31:36
Speaker 2: did you do anything for his kids with What you
31:40
Speaker 2: don't know is that I gave him the name Hoven.
31:42
Speaker 2: What you might not know is that I bought him
31:44
Speaker 2: into the industry. You made I know that, Okay. Now,
31:48
Speaker 2: what you don't know is your relationship with him comes
31:49
Speaker 2: through me, right. What you don't know is he didn't
31:53
Speaker 2: fuck with you. It was me saying, nah, I'll fuck
31:56
Speaker 2: with keV you bugging. But Hovein knew how to play
31:59
Speaker 2: the game. Like I said, I'm raw and the cut.
32:03
Speaker 2: I don't pretend to fuck with people when I don't,
32:05
Speaker 2: I don't. If I fuck with you, I generally do.
32:07
Speaker 2: If I don't, I just don't. There's no beef, no
32:09
Speaker 2: personal I don't. He knows how to put on the
32:11
Speaker 2: smile and face. That's why I say, hey, you be
32:13
Speaker 2: at the forefront, be the manager. Now did he grow
32:16
Speaker 2: to fuck with you later on? Yeah?
32:17
Speaker 1: But me and him had like hours and hours of
32:19
Speaker 1: conversations the last years.
32:20
Speaker 2: So now here go to thing. Let me tell you
32:22
Speaker 2: when when it counts and is real, it's countless people
32:25
Speaker 2: who had hours and hours of conversations with him. They
32:28
Speaker 2: didn't countless people who had hours hours of conversation with me.
32:32
Speaker 2: Because it's worth more. It's not just given to anybody.
32:35
Speaker 2: It's giving the people who I genuinely care for and generals.
32:39
Speaker 1: But the reason why I bring that up is because
32:40
Speaker 1: obviously I'm.
32:41
Speaker 2: Gonna tell you I don't regret anything. That's the truth.
32:43
Speaker 1: But you're his kids godfather, correct yeah, one of one
32:48
Speaker 1: of his kids godfathers. And my thing is is when
32:50
Speaker 1: there's that level of like love, it a certain point, right,
32:53
Speaker 1: because I think there was like a certain point in
32:55
Speaker 1: time or you put out like a almost like a podcast.
32:58
Speaker 1: It was like a thirty minute thing where you were
33:00
Speaker 1: talking about what happened and you're talking about Vaine.
33:03
Speaker 2: It was a check on the Dope Boy Chucky project.
33:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like kind of like you talking
33:09
Speaker 1: for like it was about a half hour.
33:10
Speaker 2: Was just talking about the whole initiate part of me
33:12
Speaker 2: meeting them, because, like I said, I deal in facts.
33:15
Speaker 2: I was talking about how when I got a management
33:18
Speaker 2: deal with Butcher was God bless the day, real man.
33:21
Speaker 2: He put me on with rap and they say, Yo,
33:24
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you this much money a week, And
33:26
Speaker 2: I said, why can you take some of that money
33:28
Speaker 2: out of my money and give my partners k Cash
33:31
Speaker 2: and Hovain which got nothing to do with music. I'm
33:34
Speaker 2: just putting them on. We ride around selling music. Yo,
33:36
Speaker 2: can you give them three hundred a week each? Six
33:39
Speaker 2: hundred not out of your money, but out of my money.
33:41
Speaker 2: I did that. That's how I sacrificed for my people.
33:44
Speaker 2: So for somebody that I did that for, they owe
33:46
Speaker 2: me more than that. For somebody I helped get out
33:48
Speaker 2: the projects, they owe me more than that. For somebody
33:51
Speaker 2: who I gave a name to, I put this, this
33:54
Speaker 2: was the dream of it is. I put them on
33:56
Speaker 2: with their dream. I didn't. But it was managers that
33:58
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34:02
Speaker 2: they switch managers, they just the people that they came
34:04
Speaker 2: up with. I never did that, even with God with
34:07
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34:10
Speaker 2: fuck with y'all, but my dog gotta be with me.
34:13
Speaker 2: That's real loyalty when when most managers be like, well, na,
34:17
Speaker 2: it's only me or nobody you notice from being in
34:18
Speaker 2: the game. But I'm like, yo, listen, that's twenty percent.
34:21
Speaker 2: But my dog, who got no experience and don't know shit,
34:24
Speaker 2: he got to be with me although I ain't fucking
34:26
Speaker 2: with you. That's real loyalty that most people won't do.
34:29
Speaker 2: And for somebody that does that, they owe me more.
34:32
Speaker 2: They owe me more than that than to have a
34:36
Speaker 2: we gotta understanding of I got charged with with Ford
34:40
Speaker 2: Counsel weapons possession, attempted murder and they was lingering the
34:44
Speaker 2: murder of my friend Banger, my real friend over over
34:49
Speaker 2: my head. I'm teld about Bangers, my real man, like
34:52
Speaker 2: when he come home from jail, I'm bailing him out.
34:55
Speaker 2: We got the crib with a chef having shit there.
34:57
Speaker 2: Ove ain ain't there. You feel me. It's a fact.
35:00
Speaker 2: So my thing is is, yeah, I'm saying they owe
35:02
Speaker 2: me more than that to where if you and your
35:04
Speaker 2: guys right here. I don't know everybody's position, but they here.
35:08
Speaker 2: He's doing his thing. He's doing his thing. Let's just say,
35:12
Speaker 2: y'all ride around, you get caught with a gun illegally.
35:15
Speaker 2: I don't know the dynamic y'all relationship, but I feel
35:18
Speaker 2: like one of your guys should be like, yo, keV,
35:21
Speaker 2: keep shit going. I'm gonna take this gun charge. I
35:23
Speaker 2: ain't gonna sit for long. Just hold me down financially,
35:26
Speaker 2: because if you go to jail, all this shit stops.
35:29
Speaker 2: Real shit. So now imagine coming from the street knowing that,
35:32
Speaker 2: and now you into music, making more money and being
35:35
Speaker 2: more successful, and the game plan is oy yo, listen, y'all,
35:39
Speaker 2: fucking nobody'll help me with no money for bail, no lawyer,
35:42
Speaker 2: no nothing. It's cool. I got that. It's so all
35:45
Speaker 2: I need. I'm gonna fight this attempted murder and I'm
35:48
Speaker 2: gonna fight this gun this of a gun charge. Y'all
35:52
Speaker 2: just fight the gun chargers. I'm paying for the lawyer
35:54
Speaker 2: and everything. I don't pay for a lawyer with hope
35:58
Speaker 2: before and beat it. John Stella Tonia beat a gun charge,
36:01
Speaker 2: phone spinked it. Hey, I just need you all to
36:04
Speaker 2: do that, all right, Bet I'll call Wolf you on
36:07
Speaker 2: the phone home STD in court that yo. If they
36:10
Speaker 2: when he finally when they bought up that they caught
36:12
Speaker 2: the guns in it in court, he said the I'm
36:14
Speaker 2: gonna take the other gun because that's what we do.
36:16
Speaker 2: That's what I did for him. That's what I'm gonna
36:18
Speaker 2: do for anybody in a higher position that's holding us down.
36:21
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So I guess for them to act funny all of
39:52
Speaker 2: a sudden when he's gotta hold the end of the debugging,
39:55
Speaker 2: that ain't want honey.
39:56
Speaker 1: To me, that's like Hoving's passed away, Like he's not
39:59
Speaker 1: here anymore, you know what I mean. And like, well,
40:01
Speaker 1: we spoke after that. We spoke after that, We spoke
40:04
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions. I've seen them and you know, it
40:07
Speaker 1: is what it is that don't take back the facts.
40:10
Speaker 1: So my thing is this is like, you know there's
40:13
Speaker 1: Ship that's online now that like his kids are gonna
40:15
Speaker 1: have to grow up and like you know when they
40:17
Speaker 1: look up their pops on that fucking YouTube.
40:19
Speaker 2: Bro, it's it's the truth. But you gotta live in dying.
40:23
Speaker 1: You don't regret anything that you said about him, like
40:27
Speaker 1: because you were if I had made up stuff and
40:30
Speaker 1: I came up with slandering Ship and cool, but I
40:33
Speaker 1: said Ship, that was the truth.
40:34
Speaker 2: They said I was on drugs, He said I was bugging.
40:37
Speaker 2: He told somebody he had to get away before you
40:39
Speaker 2: had to put hands on me playing the fuck were
40:41
Speaker 2: with you put hands on joy ass that don't, nigga,
40:44
Speaker 2: Like these are the narratives that they pushed so that
40:47
Speaker 2: they wouldn't look crazy when everybody's like, well why did
40:51
Speaker 2: you leave as why wasn't you there? We come from.
40:53
Speaker 2: If you come somewhere with somebody, you leave with them.
40:56
Speaker 2: You don't leave your friends. I don't give a fuck.
40:57
Speaker 2: If you hear shots in the other room and your
40:59
Speaker 2: people's went in that room to go to the bathroom, you
41:01
Speaker 2: run the fuck in there. You don't walk out the door.
41:03
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here. You go see
41:05
Speaker 2: and make sure they're good. That's where we come from.
41:07
Speaker 2: And when the pressure was on, they didn't stand on that.
41:10
Speaker 2: So if his kids, if my kids got to see
41:12
Speaker 2: shit online about me that shoe, they got to see it.
41:14
Speaker 2: The fucking lady who said it im until looked at
41:18
Speaker 2: her just died. People don't give a fuck. She should
41:21
Speaker 2: have never said that shit. The bitch could burn in hell.
41:23
Speaker 2: Good riddance. I just think, like you taking it, it's
41:26
Speaker 2: all about perspective, It's all about how you feel, and
41:29
Speaker 2: you can't ever pacify somebody feelings because I was there
41:32
Speaker 2: ground zero of the betrayal. That's like me saying, if
41:35
Speaker 2: something happens with you and my wife Keef, leave it alone.
41:37
Speaker 2: Well I think again, you talk about perspective. I think
41:40
Speaker 2: like talking to him, there's like a different perspective on life.
41:43
Speaker 2: You got you, but then you have the truth, bro,
41:45
Speaker 2: I only dealing the truth. I'm telling you don't know
41:47
Speaker 2: this person. How I dealt with this, How everything that
41:50
Speaker 2: I said about these people. I show video evidence to
41:53
Speaker 2: prove it everything. Here's the fact that you can ask.
41:57
Speaker 2: You can ask yourself. You don't have to ask him.
41:58
Speaker 1: I can't ask him.
42:00
Speaker 2: You don't even have to ask you ask yourself because
42:02
Speaker 2: I only deal in fact. No made up ship. Hey, yo, listen,
42:06
Speaker 2: average your man right, y'all came up out the mother together.
42:08
Speaker 2: He put you on, He did everything for you. Why
42:11
Speaker 2: why did you leave him and take all those guns.
42:13
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest one. Why fighting for his life?
42:17
Speaker 2: Myself a ridiculous leaf.
42:19
Speaker 1: I can't even there's no point in talking about my
42:21
Speaker 1: guy's dad.
42:22
Speaker 2: So we don't even talk to God being dead. He's
42:24
Speaker 2: my guy, keV. He didn't fuck with you. I'm the
42:27
Speaker 2: win that made him fuck with you. So when he
42:29
Speaker 2: came to the point, w you where you say some
42:31
Speaker 2: ship like yo, average controversial? I don't know if I
42:34
Speaker 2: want to do the fucker is kept talking about you know,
42:36
Speaker 2: I'm the win that start all this ship and you
42:38
Speaker 2: having loyalty. Bro, I'm telling you, I have no reason
42:41
Speaker 2: to lie. Whether I leave, whether I do this interview,
42:43
Speaker 2: leave or not, I'm still gonna be rich, Bro, I'm
42:45
Speaker 2: still gonna be me. I'm still gonna drop an album and
42:47
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna go top ten and Billboard. I'm gonna
42:49
Speaker 2: do number one and number two independent, and I'm still
42:51
Speaker 2: gonna live. I'm still gonna be at the floor seats
42:53
Speaker 2: on fights. My life is still gonna be good. I'm
42:55
Speaker 2: telling you real life ship, Bro. You don't even play
42:58
Speaker 2: my records, and it don't matter. I'm gonna still be good.
43:00
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you just for life moving on, be
43:03
Speaker 2: loyal and truthful and holding down for the people that
43:06
Speaker 2: would really hold it down for you. And don't ask
43:08
Speaker 2: him he's dead. You can't but ask yourself, why wouldn't
43:11
Speaker 2: somebody do that? These are the facts. Why was Ad
43:14
Speaker 2: fighting for his life in a room by himself? Things
43:17
Speaker 2: could have turned out different? So get left to take
43:20
Speaker 2: all of these guns you went unless the converse, the
43:22
Speaker 2: conversation you person that can take the gun.
43:25
Speaker 1: The conversations that you guys had before he passed. Were
43:28
Speaker 1: you guys in a positive place because you posted like
43:30
Speaker 1: a rest and peace post?
43:31
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we we was cool. But I'm gonna
43:34
Speaker 2: tell you what the last conversation, Uh, the last conversation
43:37
Speaker 2: we were supposed to get up and he kind of
43:39
Speaker 2: spun me like I've seen him in person, pulled him
43:41
Speaker 2: on com in fact, well let's talk, nigga, Like you
43:43
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like.
43:44
Speaker 1: Because I saw your posts and I was like, well, shit, like,
43:46
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if this was the
43:47
Speaker 1: energy like it seems it was a positive post. You
43:51
Speaker 1: had a lot of negative energy towards now, that's not true.
43:53
Speaker 2: I spoke, I spoke to him. We had a situation
43:57
Speaker 2: where we had to speak about some business.
44:00
Speaker 1: But because you guys im in looking when you guys
44:02
Speaker 1: were like fucking Damon and Hove.
44:04
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It was like having Hoven.
44:06
Speaker 2: But I'm saying like in terms of like we was
44:10
Speaker 2: like cho I never won't be like no other man.
44:11
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, well, you can speak to
44:15
Speaker 2: somebody and nigga, two troops can be one you. They
44:19
Speaker 2: could have done all of this bullshit and you can
44:21
Speaker 2: still feel for their loss. That picture that I showed you,
44:25
Speaker 2: that that video that can be true. That that video
44:28
Speaker 2: that I put up, that's before rap shit, that's freestyling.
44:32
Speaker 2: And my mom's basement studio that I built and we
44:34
Speaker 2: count with my drug money. You hear me that I
44:37
Speaker 2: put them on to your here, come on, like I'm
44:39
Speaker 2: the type of friend and like, yo, I'm going by
44:41
Speaker 2: these bricks you can put in with me. No, I
44:43
Speaker 2: don't want to put in the eye. Well, I'll get
44:45
Speaker 2: the bricks and whatever you sell, give me half. But
44:48
Speaker 2: you got the opportunity to come in and be a
44:50
Speaker 2: whole partner. That's before rap. That's before anything. That's when
44:53
Speaker 2: you and Temple not even know you care.
44:55
Speaker 1: You can you can agree on two things can be
44:58
Speaker 1: true at the same right.
44:58
Speaker 2: So you're saying you invite to the funeral invited? I
45:02
Speaker 2: found out first, and I ain't know people getting invited
45:05
Speaker 2: to the funerals. Who the fuck is invited to the funeral?
45:08
Speaker 2: I've never been invited to a funeral in my life.
45:10
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's nuts to be invited to
45:12
Speaker 2: a funeral. Yes, you fucking grieving, So I wouldn't invite
45:15
Speaker 2: nobody your funeral if you put it like up, hey,
45:17
Speaker 2: this person is gonna be is died this with funeral court,
45:22
Speaker 2: you had to go to court that day, right, I
45:23
Speaker 2: had to go to court that day, But not even that,
45:26
Speaker 2: like Bro, I found out hoping died before you knew, or.
45:30
Speaker 1: I actually I actually think I might have found out.
45:32
Speaker 1: I found out like the night that happened.
45:34
Speaker 2: I found out, Yeah, I found it the night before.
45:36
Speaker 1: Everybody called me and were like, hey, just so you
45:38
Speaker 1: know it's happened.
45:39
Speaker 2: I found seventy.
45:42
Speaker 1: I got a call as well.
45:43
Speaker 2: Well, then there you go. That's when I found out
45:46
Speaker 2: he died. But you don't get invited to a funeral
45:48
Speaker 2: at all. You could just go. I know people that
45:50
Speaker 2: didn't even like mutual friends of us, that don't even
45:53
Speaker 2: they didn't even speak to him whatever, they went to
45:55
Speaker 2: the funeral. It ain't no funerals opening.
45:57
Speaker 1: When you lose somebody like him, does it make you
45:59
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46:00
Speaker 1: with someone like Leo?
46:02
Speaker 2: Fuck? No, I don't leave the bro for what tell
46:06
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46:09
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46:13
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