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Brewers postgame meeting, Arenado's trade future, Jacob Wilson AL ROY? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Bullpen coach Mike Harky told me when I got my
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Speaker 1: tenth that final day to get that tenth year, he said,
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Speaker 1: they can't tell you ish no more.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Friday episode of
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Speaker 2: Fair Territory. I am Alana Rizzo, filling in for Scott Braun,
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Speaker 2: who was on a beach someplace in Mexico.
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Speaker 3: Ves up, everybody, Cam, how you doing?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Any day I see you, Alana. It turns into a
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Speaker 1: much better day. Cratsy, his face.
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Speaker 5: Is just okay, but you your smile brightens the room.
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Speaker 5: So I'm pumped to be on today. Let's go. Wow.
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Speaker 3: Thanks very much.
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Speaker 2: All right, Eric Kratz always on Foul Territory, appreciate you
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Speaker 2: always for being here, my friend.
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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Let us charge the mound as we talk a little
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Speaker 2: bit of Brewers and Giants next charging.
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Speaker 3: About all right.
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Speaker 2: So, yesterday, guys, the Giants beat the Brewers by one.
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Speaker 2: Pat Murphy, who was the National League Manager of the
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Speaker 2: Year last year, apparently called a team meeting after that.
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Speaker 2: This is a guy that's been around the game a
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Speaker 2: long time, Adam Mcalvey, who covers the Brewers on a
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Speaker 2: daily Basis says.
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Speaker 3: The Brewers clubhouse doors stayed close.
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Speaker 2: For thirty minutes after today's loss, the first twenty of
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Speaker 2: which were a team meeting discussed what Pat Murphy called
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Speaker 2: the most unusually poor defensive series he's seen in ten
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Speaker 2: years with the team. So, Kratzy, we're going to start
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Speaker 2: with you. Pat Murphy's been around this game a long time.
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Speaker 2: He obviously has been around the Brewers a long time.
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Speaker 2: When counsel goes over to the Cubs, Murph becomes the manager.
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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, manager of the year last year, a
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Speaker 2: closed door meeting, bad defense. What do you make of it, Kratz, I.
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Speaker 6: Make the he had the feeling that they needed a
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Speaker 6: closed door meeting. He doesn't need the award of manager
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Speaker 6: of the year, which you mentioned twice, that players don't
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Speaker 6: need to know that he got manager of the year.
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Speaker 6: They understand that if this man says, hey, you know what,
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Speaker 6: we're going to sit you down and we're all going
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Speaker 6: to talk about this something that need to be a
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Speaker 6: dress and rarely do you see it as okay.
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Speaker 4: You know, maybe they weren't giving effort.
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Speaker 6: It was more the execution of the play and putting
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Speaker 6: yourself in good positions. And he felt like it was
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Speaker 6: something that needed to be said, so he said it.
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Speaker 6: And I think he's built up enough cachet in that
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Speaker 6: locker room to be heard.
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Speaker 7: Cam.
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Speaker 2: You know that there are managers that can deal with
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Speaker 2: mistakes when they're physical mistakes. Sometimes you just can't make
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Speaker 2: the play for whatever the reason. But I think it's
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Speaker 2: the mental mistakes Cam that will drive a manager crazy,
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Speaker 2: or lack of effort. Which maybe it wasn't the lack
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Speaker 2: of effort as Crats alluded to, but maybe he's just thinking,
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Speaker 2: you know what, if your head isn't in the game,
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Speaker 2: we need to have a conversation. What do you take
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Speaker 2: away from a closed door meeting a guy that doesn't
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Speaker 2: do this often?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, this is a situation where knowing Murph
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Speaker 1: and being you know, to have an opportunity to play
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Speaker 1: for him in the project organization. This is something that
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Speaker 1: didn't just happen that day, right, This is something that
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Speaker 1: I think he's probably been watching over time, and hey,
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Speaker 1: it might even have went back to spring training, right.
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Speaker 1: Understanding one what the Brewers do as organization. They're not
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Speaker 1: going to go out and spend a bunch of money
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Speaker 1: and put together a Dodgers type of payroll or a
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Speaker 1: Philly type of payroll. Right, they predicate and focus their
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Speaker 1: whole you know, you know, organizational way on playing good defense, pitching,
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Speaker 1: getting good bullpen innings at the end of games, the
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Speaker 1: small ball, getting guys over. These are the things that
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Speaker 1: have made the Brewers who they are, even before cred
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Speaker 1: Council left and then as Pat Murphy took the helm over.
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Speaker 5: So I think it's just one of those things he understands.
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Speaker 1: If we want to be who we can and the
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Speaker 1: best we can, we have to be a discipline team.
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Speaker 5: Right, we have to pay attention to the little details.
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Speaker 1: In Alana Kratzy, you know you've seen younger teams or
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Speaker 1: teams that have these kind of woes. I'm sure you'll
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Speaker 1: see some early work going on today. I'm sure some
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Speaker 1: guys will be out getting some extra balls, some extra
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Speaker 1: ground balls, some extra flyballs, whatever it may be. And
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Speaker 1: sometimes you need those little moments and those little attention
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Speaker 1: to detail callouts from your manager. And Pat one thing
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Speaker 1: I always said about him, he does such a great
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Speaker 1: job not with x's and those, but understanding people. And
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Speaker 1: sometimes that goes so far. And I think that was
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Speaker 1: a moment where he just you know, understands his guys, Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's realing in.
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Speaker 5: And I know he didn't probably rip them.
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Speaker 1: He probably very calm conversation, knowing Pat, but just kind
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Speaker 1: of called it to their attention, say, hey, guys, if
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Speaker 1: we want to be better, continue to be what we
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Speaker 1: have been division, we have to clean it up and
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Speaker 1: be more disciplined.
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Speaker 6: I think nineteen ninety six Pat probably would have ripped them,
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Speaker 6: but that twenty twenty twenty five Pat was probably they're
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Speaker 6: giving some stern words, and I don't know that they're
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Speaker 6: necessarily going to Like if you were to go see
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Speaker 6: a workout pregame and the ground balls and count how
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Speaker 6: many ground balls or anything, I bet they're going to
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Speaker 6: be the same amount. I bet they have a pretty
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Speaker 6: good routine. To me, it's probably the focus, the intent,
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Speaker 6: Hey what are we actually working on here?
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 6: One of the plays was Bryce Terrang who's got some
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Speaker 6: hardware on his glove, made a play where he was
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Speaker 6: trying to turn two. But it looked like it wasn't
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Speaker 6: that great. It looked like it wasn't a great play
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Speaker 6: because he kind of related to the side, but he
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Speaker 6: was already setting his feet to try to turn a
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Speaker 6: tough double play. To me, the conversations were probably about, Okay,
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Speaker 6: what kind of decisions are we making?
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Speaker 4: How are we built? How did we build this team?
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Speaker 6: We need to get outs, not all the outs in
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Speaker 6: one play, but just certain outs. And I think I
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Speaker 6: think all that stuff is what you talk about in
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Speaker 6: those meetings, and without being in that meeting, you never
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Speaker 6: really know exactly what happened.
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Speaker 2: Cam are these meetings effective? And moreover, are they more
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Speaker 2: effective when it's a manager handling the closed door meeting
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Speaker 2: or a player having the closed door meeting?
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Speaker 1: Well before answering that, this immediately makes me think about
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Speaker 1: Miguil Cabrere and Miguil Cabrere hated team meetings.
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Speaker 5: I remember making blatantly being open and.
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Speaker 1: He's like, team meetings are for losers, Like, hey, we
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Speaker 1: to figure out his players. But I also think there's
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Speaker 1: an element of you know, the manager having you know,
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Speaker 1: the ability like a Pat Murphy, right, a guy who
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Speaker 1: knows that he has the room right, he has everybody's ear,
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Speaker 1: he has everybody's trust. I think a guy like Pat
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Speaker 1: Murphy probably also going guys in this division, in this division,
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Speaker 1: we just need to do things right, the little things
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Speaker 1: that we're supposed to do, like Cratsy said, and we'll
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Speaker 1: be fine.
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Speaker 5: So I think it's just a call to attention. I
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Speaker 5: think they can work depending on the group.
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Speaker 1: And I think when you look at that type of
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Speaker 1: group that they have, you lose wi Lea Domas, you
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Speaker 1: lose your closer, you lose pieces here and there. I
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Speaker 1: think still trying to figure out who's the captain, right.
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Speaker 1: I know probably you will say it's Christian Yellige's, but
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Speaker 1: I think I think depending on the group, it most
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Speaker 1: definitely can work, especially when you have a manager, as
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Speaker 1: we talked about a lot of when you wake up
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Speaker 1: and you're excited about going to the ballpark and playing
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Speaker 1: for that guy, I think it most definitely can help
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Speaker 1: in the right way.
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Speaker 5: And that's just get keeping guys accountable. Hey, guys, look
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Speaker 5: in the mirror. At the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: I can't go back the plays, but we're all better
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Speaker 1: than we've shown in here and we're still twelve and twelve.
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Speaker 5: So I think that's the message for Pat Murphy.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brandon Woodruff in terms of some positive
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Speaker 2: for the Brewers guys.
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Speaker 3: Kratzy.
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Speaker 2: Brandon Woodruff pitch five scoreless innings, struck out five for
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Speaker 2: Triple A Nashville on Thursday. Now, he was just averaging
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Speaker 2: ninety two miles an hour on that fastball, but coming
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Speaker 2: back from shoulder surgery, plenty effective in the outings, and
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Speaker 2: this would be a massive boost to that starting rotation.
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Speaker 6: I think anybody's a massive boost just because they didn't
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Speaker 6: start with much depth, and not that the guys that
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Speaker 6: they have are not good, it's just they need that
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Speaker 6: extra depth. You can't plug Brandon Woodriff and have him
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Speaker 6: pitch every five days. I don't see how that's gonna happen.
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Speaker 6: I don't see how that would be healthy for him,
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Speaker 6: especially with this team having playoff aspirations.
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Speaker 4: So the extra depth.
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Speaker 6: Not saying they're going to go to a six man rotation,
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Speaker 6: but they have guys that are filling in right now
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Speaker 6: and they're going to wear out that bullpen if they
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Speaker 6: continue to fill in with four and five inning guys.
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Speaker 6: So Big Wu has to be one hundred percent healthy
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Speaker 6: when he comes back, And one hundred percent doesn't mean
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Speaker 6: that he's going to be throwing ninety seven to ninety
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Speaker 6: nine like he used to. He may never get back
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Speaker 6: to There wasn't This wasn't elbow surgery. This was shoulder surgery.
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Speaker 6: And to have him on the field and have him
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Speaker 6: effectively throwing strikes and getting outs in triple A just
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Speaker 6: one step, and he's one step away from being back
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Speaker 6: in the big leagues where he'll have to really test
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Speaker 6: himself to see how he needs to get out against
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Speaker 6: big league hitters.
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Speaker 2: Is there a better division though, cam to kind of
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Speaker 2: have to figure things out than the NL Central. I
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Speaker 2: think both of the centrals are always kind of knocking them,
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Speaker 2: even though we probably shouldn't.
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Speaker 3: But this is a very winnable decision.
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Speaker 2: And when you catch something and nippet right in the
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Speaker 2: bud here on April twenty fourth, yesterday, I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is something at where they sit.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is very fixable one.
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Speaker 1: Hundred percent, And this is one thing I continue to say,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you said it, because I don't want
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Speaker 1: anybody to feel like we're picking on the NL Central.
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Speaker 5: But each and every year.
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Speaker 1: When you look at the past few seasons Saint Louis,
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Speaker 1: they haven't done much right. They went out and said that, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna see what these young guys have. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: let them figure it out. So with that said, hey,
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Speaker 1: they're not really much of a problem when you look
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Speaker 1: at the central for me, Pittsburg, they've shown you their hand.
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Speaker 5: We know what they're gonna do right.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna continue to draft guys and try to I
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Speaker 1: don't even know what they're trying to do right, just compete,
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Speaker 1: I guess, or just go out and make sure they
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Speaker 1: can fill the roster for that game. When you look
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Speaker 1: at it, it's gonna be the Cubs and the Brewers
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Speaker 1: right each and every year. So, you know, to add
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Speaker 1: to Cratsey's point, when you have a guy like Woodrow,
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Speaker 1: Woodrow who won, you know, you go back to him
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Speaker 1: making that press conference. I remember how emotionally he was right.
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Speaker 1: So one, I'm just happy that he's back on the mound.
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Speaker 1: I know we would all love to see him throwing
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Speaker 1: ninth mid you know, upper the mid nineties.
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Speaker 5: But he's a guy that even when he had the stuff,
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Speaker 5: he knew how to pitch.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's more about the grit both of
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Speaker 1: hey trusting that shoulder again.
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Speaker 5: But like you said, a lot of this division is
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Speaker 5: wide open.
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Speaker 1: So if they can get him back or anybody else
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Speaker 1: to give them, just any type of length to help
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Speaker 1: out that bullpen, they have a chance.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pitcher, not a thrower.
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Speaker 2: This is the rotation right now, Kratz, Freddy Peralta, of course,
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Speaker 2: Tobias Myers, who we had on the show when Fowl
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Speaker 2: was out there in Arizona. Nice to chat with him,
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Speaker 2: Chad Patrick, Quinn Priester, and Jose Kintana. Right now, guys,
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Speaker 2: the TmrA is a four point two three, not horrendous,
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Speaker 2: but eleventh worst in the majors. Kratz, do they have enough.
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Speaker 3: Currently? And obviously we talked about.
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Speaker 2: Woodruff being a boost, but even with Woody back in
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Speaker 2: the rotation, do they have enough?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 6: No, But that's not what the Brewers are built on.
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Speaker 6: They're built on those guys being enough. It's not enough.
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Speaker 6: Like you've seen what happened in the last few years
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Speaker 6: the Brewers have. I mean they had Burnsy, had Big Wu,
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Speaker 6: they had Freddie p All starting your first three games
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Speaker 6: or your playoffs, that's a formidable starting rotation for your playoffs,
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Speaker 6: and they got bounced, except for in twenty eighteen when
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Speaker 6: we had Jolie's Chassin Wade Miley, like Big Wu and
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Speaker 6: Burnsey were in the bullpen. So you sit there and
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Speaker 6: you go, what are we going to get out of
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Speaker 6: these guys? This is something that the Brewers have done
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Speaker 6: the best at. They have done the best at getting
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Speaker 6: the most out of what they have, and that's why
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Speaker 6: adding that depth of Big Wu is going to be
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Speaker 6: huge because it just gives them more quality depth until
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Speaker 6: Nestor gets back. It gives them more quality depth to
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Speaker 6: make sure a guy like Tobias Myers doesn't get tired
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Speaker 6: because unfortunately he was a late bloomer coming into the
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Speaker 6: big leagues. He's starting meaningful games for this Brewer team
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Speaker 6: and they need somebody to step up. Jose Kintana is
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Speaker 6: going to be consistent. But one of the things Hosei
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Speaker 6: Quintana did was he killed the Brewers and now he
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Speaker 6: asked doesn't get to face the Brewers, so that's a
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Speaker 6: knock on him. But all these guys are just there
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Speaker 6: to compete, and that's why I like this team.
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Speaker 4: They just can't afford to have guys all year round,
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Speaker 4: not go past the fifth or sixth in.
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Speaker 3: The Yeah, this that isn't built on depth. For sure.
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Speaker 5: Our guys being nice. He's being nice.
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Speaker 1: Those names you rolled out other than Freddy Peralta right now,
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Speaker 1: thirty eight year old cam I'm running to the batrack.
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that, I don't care even listen, Nestor,
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Speaker 1: that's my guy, even when he comes back. I'm running
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Speaker 1: to the batrack at the end of the day, Cratzy,
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Speaker 1: You as a hitter, some guys, whether they beat you
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Speaker 1: or not, you like your chances. So for me, if
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Speaker 1: I'm an opposing team, I like my chances against everybody
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Speaker 1: but Freddy Peralta, So that ain't gonna get it done.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: I love the honesty and yeah, I mean just ask
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Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman what he thinks about Nestor Cortez. Freddy Freeman
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Speaker 2: is the one that made Nesra Cortes become a Milwaukee Brewer,
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Speaker 2: and then the Yankees teed off on him the first
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Speaker 2: game of the season.
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Speaker 3: Let's put our focus over to the National.
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Speaker 2: League West, not the Dodgers. Let's talk about the Giants.
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Speaker 2: The Giants are now second in the division. You guys
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Speaker 2: with the seventeen and nine record, crats. I don't know
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Speaker 2: that many folks coming into this season gave the Giants
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Speaker 2: any sort of flowers, any sort of love. But they're
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Speaker 2: getting it done. What have you seen from San Francisco
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Speaker 2: so far? About you know?
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Speaker 3: Eleven twelve percent into the season.
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Speaker 4: Talking about you know, play who you are? Know who
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Speaker 4: you are.
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Speaker 6: Charlie Manuel's other quote was know thy sale, like this
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Speaker 6: team knows thyself. The only person that doesn't know thyself
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Speaker 6: is Jung Hu Lee. He is out of this world.
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Speaker 6: There's gonna be some regression there to have the home
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Speaker 6: runs that he's hit. He never never came close to
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Speaker 6: this type of power rate in Korea when he was playing.
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Speaker 4: So let's pump the brakes.
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Speaker 6: I don't I think he's gonna be an MVP, but
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Speaker 6: he's had an MVP April. But this team picks it.
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Speaker 6: Look at what they have. Yes, they picked up William Domas,
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Speaker 6: who's struggling at the plate. His defense last year was
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Speaker 6: actually down. He was a negative outs above replacement guy.
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Speaker 6: So you wonder, like, is that gonna come back to
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Speaker 6: bite him at some point? But he's playing good defense.
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Speaker 6: You have you have Platinum at third with Matt Chatman,
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Speaker 6: you have Jung Ju Lee in center field. You don't
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Speaker 6: have your normal slugs, you have a shortstop playing second
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Speaker 6: and Tyler Fitzgerald. You don't have your normal slugs all
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Speaker 6: around the all around the field that are gonna try
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Speaker 6: to pick the ball and then just go in and hit.
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Speaker 6: These dudes are picking it, and they're keeping the games close,
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Speaker 6: and they're able to win these one run games. That's
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Speaker 6: that's really what's propped up this awesome start is they're
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Speaker 6: winning the games that are close. But some people will say, oh,
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Speaker 6: that's luck to me. I say, they built this team
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Speaker 6: for pitching in defense, and they've come through huge four
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Speaker 6: him this year.
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Speaker 2: And they're making big strides obviously against teams that they
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Speaker 2: not they shouldn't necessarily be. I mean, you just saw
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Speaker 2: the tweet there. They have a tremendous record against teams
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Speaker 2: above five hundred. They're playing well both at home and
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Speaker 2: on the road. You were talking about Matt Chapman and
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Speaker 2: his defense. Obviously, Sarah Lang's pointing out that he homered
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Speaker 2: on one hundred point four mile an hour fastball. It's
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Speaker 2: the fastest pissed a Giants player has homered off of
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Speaker 2: under pitch tracking. Let me ask you this though, when
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Speaker 2: it comes to the closer role. Cam Obviously I know
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Speaker 2: you were not a pitcher. But Doval has done a
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Speaker 2: good job closing out games for them. In fact, he
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Speaker 2: closed out each of the three Giant wins during this
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Speaker 2: four game series. But Bob Melvin, their manager, said the
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Speaker 2: club hasn't lost faith in Ryan Walker. Do you go
16:45
Speaker 2: with the hot hand in Doval until he tells you
16:48
Speaker 2: that he can't do it anymore?
16:50
Speaker 3: Or do you show Walker.
16:53
Speaker 2: Just for his own psyche, in his own confidence and
16:55
Speaker 2: you put him back out there.
16:58
Speaker 1: Well, for me, if I was at Bob Melman shoes
17:00
Speaker 1: before Walker came along, Camillo Duval showed that he could
17:04
Speaker 1: get a lot of big outs at the end the games.
17:05
Speaker 4: Right.
17:05
Speaker 1: You talk about that guy with that plus plus stuff
17:08
Speaker 1: plus slider, and for me, his biggest thing was attacking
17:10
Speaker 1: the zone right, winning the race to two strikes. I
17:13
Speaker 1: think guys like that when he has such at least
17:15
Speaker 1: stuff sometimes and you know a lot of you watch
17:16
Speaker 1: guys like Bruce R. Gratterol when they have that elite stuff,
17:19
Speaker 1: sometimes they get too fine, right, They want to be
17:21
Speaker 1: too cute.
17:22
Speaker 5: So I think for me, when you look.
17:24
Speaker 1: At Duval when he's attacking the zone and getting ahead,
17:28
Speaker 1: then he can let his other stuff work. So for me,
17:30
Speaker 1: I think you have a good problem if you're Bob
17:32
Speaker 1: Melvine when you look at what the Giants have done
17:34
Speaker 1: and how they played, I think this is a great
17:36
Speaker 1: problem to have, and I think you have an opportunity
17:38
Speaker 1: to kind of work Walker back in right, figure out
17:41
Speaker 1: situations that you can put him in where he'll have success,
17:44
Speaker 1: and then if there's an opportunity where Duval is down,
17:46
Speaker 1: then he gets.
17:47
Speaker 5: That opportunity to go back and close.
17:48
Speaker 1: But I want to touch on one part as far
17:50
Speaker 1: as the Giant Giants going and a lot of you
17:52
Speaker 1: said that a lot of people we didn't think that
17:54
Speaker 1: they would be here.
17:55
Speaker 5: What I think one person that we're.
17:57
Speaker 1: Not talking about and Will I want to allow this
18:00
Speaker 1: segment to go by without saying Buster Posey knows baseball
18:04
Speaker 1: right as analytics say you shouldn't have this guy or
18:06
Speaker 1: that guy to add the Cratsy's points. What they have
18:09
Speaker 1: done is they kind of somewhat took a model of
18:11
Speaker 1: when they were winning championships. Let's go get a lineup
18:14
Speaker 1: with guys that can stretch you out, that can have
18:16
Speaker 1: quality at bats, that can put pressure on the opposing
18:18
Speaker 1: pitching staff and get into the bullpen throughout a series
18:21
Speaker 1: that actually taxes that bullpen.
18:23
Speaker 5: So we're in better shape going down the stretch.
18:24
Speaker 1: And then you have guys like Matt Chapman who's being
18:27
Speaker 1: gold platinum, but now his baddest.
18:29
Speaker 5: Catching up to the defense.
18:31
Speaker 1: So when you see that and my favorite player, Cratsy,
18:33
Speaker 1: when you talk about him, please put some respect on
18:35
Speaker 1: his name. It's it's grandson of the win. Okay, he
18:40
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. I think he can't keep up this pace
18:42
Speaker 1: as far as the hit two goals. He's showing an
18:45
Speaker 1: ability to make adjustments against lefties right and control the zone,
18:48
Speaker 1: and we just need to see him healthy. His biggest issue,
18:50
Speaker 1: I think, even in Korea and coming over here was
18:52
Speaker 1: being on the field. So I think the Giants have
18:54
Speaker 1: a lot of good problems. And last week, when you
18:56
Speaker 1: look at a staff, a pitching staff, Lina, and you've
18:59
Speaker 1: been in that divisi, you covered them for a while.
19:01
Speaker 1: When I look at the pitchy staff of Erlander, web
19:05
Speaker 1: Hicks is starting to look like a legit starter. You
19:08
Speaker 1: have some you have some serious formidable guys. Who hey,
19:12
Speaker 1: if we get this game to the back back end
19:15
Speaker 1: seven eighth with the lead, we like our chances. So
19:17
Speaker 1: who would have thought we would be talking about a
19:19
Speaker 1: couple of weeks from now, a week from now, that
19:22
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19:24
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't like it.
19:27
Speaker 2: Justin Verlander's seventy eight years old. None of that, None
19:31
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19:33
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19:36
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19:39
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19:40
Speaker 3: All four of those are in the NL West.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kratz's Phillies for just a second. Matt
20:46
Speaker 2: Gilb tweeting this guys Phillies. Through twenty five games in
20:49
Speaker 2: twenty and twenty four, they had one hundred and eight
20:51
Speaker 2: runs twenty seven home runs. This season, three more runs,
20:55
Speaker 2: but six fewer long balls.
20:57
Speaker 3: Krats, we know you love this club. I love the
20:59
Speaker 3: field as well. What do you make of the numbers?
21:03
Speaker 6: I think it's showing that they're pretty much right around
21:06
Speaker 6: where they were last year. I mean, six homers is
21:08
Speaker 6: what it is. They're scoring the same amount of runs
21:11
Speaker 6: last year. They were just up by a ton in
21:13
Speaker 6: the division because they weren't giving up any runs. The
21:17
Speaker 6: starting staff has been above average. I mean you have
21:21
Speaker 6: Zach Wheeler, Aaron Nola's kind of started out slow here,
21:25
Speaker 6: actually really started out slow, but Taiwan Walker's had a
21:29
Speaker 6: few good starts. There's a lot of positive in this
21:31
Speaker 6: starting rotation. The bullpen has been putrid and they have
21:35
Speaker 6: been giving up tons of runs. And that is the
21:38
Speaker 6: stark difference of why this team isn't seven eight games
21:42
Speaker 6: above five hundred at this point, and there I think
21:44
Speaker 6: one game, I think they're thirteen to twelve. So it's
21:46
Speaker 6: something that they need to continue to swing. For me,
21:50
Speaker 6: it's cutting down on the strikeouts from the lineup that
21:53
Speaker 6: they've had so far this year, which is huge, and
21:55
Speaker 6: I think we'll pay dividends once they make the playoffs.
21:59
Speaker 2: Cam how much do you think the Phillies bullpen is
22:01
Speaker 2: missing the services of Jeff Hoffman. He was an All
22:04
Speaker 2: Star now he's with Toronto, And to Kratz's point, the
22:07
Speaker 2: bullpens struggling.
22:09
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.
22:10
Speaker 1: You know, they lost Jeff Hoffman, who Soto the lefty,
22:15
Speaker 1: I know, he's you know, was very erratic at times,
22:17
Speaker 1: but again another big arm that they relied on.
22:20
Speaker 2: Big deal or no big deal, guys, Rob Bradford. This
22:23
Speaker 2: on X, according to Baseball Savant Raphael Devers of the
22:26
Speaker 2: Red Sox, has swung and missed at forty four pitches
22:28
Speaker 2: in what is considered the heart of the zone. The
22:31
Speaker 2: next most in all of baseball is the Twins Matt Wallner,
22:34
Speaker 2: who has done it twenty five times. Should we be
22:37
Speaker 2: concerned at Cameron Mabon?
22:41
Speaker 5: For me, we should.
22:42
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you guys something that the
22:45
Speaker 1: normal baseball player, right, the average baseball player like myself,
22:49
Speaker 1: goes through.
22:49
Speaker 5: And I'm sure Kratzy can attest to this.
22:51
Speaker 1: There were times in my career line where you play,
22:54
Speaker 1: you go through the off season, go through screen training,
22:56
Speaker 1: and you do everything, you do, what you've been doing
22:58
Speaker 1: since you're a little kid, and then.
23:00
Speaker 5: One day you wake up.
23:01
Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden, you look down and it's
23:02
Speaker 1: like a scene out of Space Jam. You feel like
23:05
Speaker 1: the monk Stars stole your powers. And that's what rotheyelle
23:08
Speaker 1: Devers is going through. You look down and you go,
23:11
Speaker 1: I forgot how to play baseball?
23:13
Speaker 5: What is going on?
23:14
Speaker 1: But what happens is you're usually seeing the guys like myself, right,
23:17
Speaker 1: guys like crazy.
23:18
Speaker 5: You don't see the guys like Raphaeld Devers, the guys
23:21
Speaker 5: that we have considered early on in their careers, is
23:23
Speaker 5: one of the elite hitters of our game, right, the
23:25
Speaker 5: elite young guy that came out of the you know,
23:28
Speaker 5: came out of the minor leagues, you know, never broke.
23:31
Speaker 1: Stride and tore up the league. He's going through something
23:34
Speaker 1: that I don't think he's ever dealt with. So it's
23:36
Speaker 1: going to be important for people around him to really
23:39
Speaker 1: picking them up. And this is where character is so important, right,
23:42
Speaker 1: Having guys that aren't just there worrying about their own
23:46
Speaker 1: personal stats. You got to have somebody rubbing this guy
23:49
Speaker 1: on the back. Even the superstars need a pick me
23:52
Speaker 1: up sometimes. So what he's going through is what us
23:54
Speaker 1: normal guys have been through.
24:00
Speaker 2: Ye all right, guys, welcome back here, and we're spreading
24:04
Speaker 2: some rumors, and by rumors, it always seems like Nolan
24:07
Speaker 2: Aronado is in the midst of them.
24:09
Speaker 3: This poor guy, whether is he going to be traded?
24:11
Speaker 3: Is he going to stay?
24:12
Speaker 2: Is he not going to stay? But let's talk about this.
24:15
Speaker 2: Has Nolan Aronado played himself back onto the trading block?
24:19
Speaker 2: Why early returns may be good for the Cardinals? So
24:23
Speaker 2: obviously the Cardinals and Nolan Ronado have it's not been
24:26
Speaker 2: the most amazing relationship. But you know what, if they
24:30
Speaker 2: continue to play well, perhaps he will be part of
24:32
Speaker 2: their future for a while. So roughly one month into
24:36
Speaker 2: the season, Kratz Arnatto is still a Cardinal. However, the
24:38
Speaker 2: possibility that he'll eventually be traded out of the new remains.
24:43
Speaker 2: MLB dot Com conducted a question and answer with Ronato
24:46
Speaker 2: that included the following relevant exchange. So MLB dot com says,
24:50
Speaker 2: you are the veteran of this club. Do you think
24:52
Speaker 2: you will be with the Cardinals to guide these guys?
24:55
Speaker 3: Ronado? I don't know. We'll see.
24:57
Speaker 2: We are playing hard right now. I think we are
24:59
Speaker 2: doing a good job. Still have to win a little
25:00
Speaker 2: bit more, compete a little bit better. Hopefully we can
25:03
Speaker 2: get on a winning streak here. If not, I assume
25:05
Speaker 2: they would want to let these young guys run and go.
25:08
Speaker 2: I know that you don't feel that I'm in the
25:09
Speaker 2: way of that. But at the same time, sooner or later,
25:13
Speaker 2: you have to make a decision. I don't mean this
25:15
Speaker 2: in a bad way, but I'm not part. If I'm
25:17
Speaker 2: not part of their future plans, I'm older. That's just
25:19
Speaker 2: part of it. When I say future plans, I'm talking
25:21
Speaker 2: about the next five years plus. I understand that hopefully
25:26
Speaker 2: we are winning, so we can add at the deadline.
25:28
Speaker 2: If not, I'm assuming some questions will arise. So Krats,
25:34
Speaker 2: let me ask you about this, because I mean, father
25:36
Speaker 2: time catches up to the best of us, all of us,
25:39
Speaker 2: and Nolan Aronado is an intelligent man, and he understands that.
25:43
Speaker 2: You know, he's probably at the end of his career.
25:46
Speaker 2: Do you see this man as a part of the Cardinals.
25:49
Speaker 2: Let's just say at the deadline.
25:53
Speaker 6: No's he's gone before him. There's too many teams that
25:56
Speaker 6: struggle at third base. And he's too good of a player.
26:00
Speaker 6: He was too good of a player before he started.
26:02
Speaker 6: I think his ops plus's one twenty six this season.
26:07
Speaker 6: He's too good of a like. Let's just say analytically,
26:10
Speaker 6: people say, oh, he's down now, he's not the third
26:15
Speaker 6: in the MVP voting. Like he was in twenty twenty two.
26:18
Speaker 6: Like that's not that long ago, that's not that many
26:21
Speaker 6: seasons ago. He's an All Star in twenty three. He
26:23
Speaker 6: had a down year. But let's say you think he
26:26
Speaker 6: is his down season last year. He's just a completely
26:29
Speaker 6: average OPS plus one oh two hitter.
26:33
Speaker 4: He's still giving you Gold Glove defense. There's very few
26:37
Speaker 4: teams that will not take him by the trade deadline
26:40
Speaker 4: because not many teams have elite defense and the upside
26:46
Speaker 4: of a lot of success at the plate when you
26:51
Speaker 4: have a hitter like Nolan aernatdo. To me, I think
26:54
Speaker 4: he gets traded. You look at a team like the Phillies.
26:57
Speaker 4: If Alec Bohm continues to struggle, they want to add.
27:01
Speaker 4: The Cardinals seem like they're going to be eating a
27:03
Speaker 4: lot of that contract. And I think the Cardinals are
27:06
Speaker 4: motivated to move him to get other guys time, and
27:10
Speaker 4: Nolan's motivated to move. He wants to go somewhere else.
27:13
Speaker 6: And I think if you add him into a lineup
27:15
Speaker 6: I just say that Phillies because that you know it's
27:18
Speaker 6: a possibility. But you add him into a lineup with
27:21
Speaker 6: really good hitters, he becomes a better hitter. Because the
27:24
Speaker 6: pressure isn't all on him. They don't just slot him
27:26
Speaker 6: right into the three spot. He might hit fifth or
27:29
Speaker 6: sixth in that lineup, depending on the who they're facing
27:32
Speaker 6: that day.
27:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have to be the guy in other places.
27:35
Speaker 2: Cam the team said that they want to run and
27:38
Speaker 2: go with the younger players. If Nolan Aronado is there
27:40
Speaker 2: at third base, Nolan Gorman doesn't get the chance to
27:43
Speaker 2: be able to play every single day Right now. He's
27:46
Speaker 2: getting some spots starts at second base, but he's not
27:48
Speaker 2: full time at third. Do you foresee a situation where
27:54
Speaker 2: Aronado is with this club past the deadline?
27:59
Speaker 5: Yankees, Phillies Orioles.
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Speaker 1: Those are the three teams I think will be great
28:04
Speaker 1: places for Nolan especially. You talk about a guy later
28:07
Speaker 1: in his career, and he laid it out. He pretty
28:09
Speaker 1: much laid out for you what he believes he still has.
28:11
Speaker 1: I still believe I have five years left, right. I
28:14
Speaker 1: think that's why he threw that number. I think he
28:15
Speaker 1: still believes in the right situation. Like Kratz, he said,
28:19
Speaker 1: watching his boy Goldie go to New York, right, seems reinvigorated,
28:23
Speaker 1: seems like he's got a little bit more juice than
28:25
Speaker 1: he had trying to be the older guys that try
28:28
Speaker 1: to lead the way and set the tone and set
28:30
Speaker 1: the example. Sometimes for older guys that becomes exhausting as well.
28:34
Speaker 1: So I'm with Cratzy. I think there is a situation
28:36
Speaker 1: of very much a situation where I think even him
28:40
Speaker 1: sitting back watching some of these veteran guys having success
28:43
Speaker 1: in places with other veteran pieces around them where it
28:46
Speaker 1: isn't all on him, I think this is a situation
28:49
Speaker 1: where they will and they should be William to move
28:51
Speaker 1: on in Aaronado and again, for me, the ideal situation,
28:54
Speaker 1: if you look at what the Cardinals have been trying
28:56
Speaker 1: to do, I think Baltimore is the right place to call.
28:59
Speaker 5: I think Baltimore also needs to come off of some of.
29:02
Speaker 1: Those prospects and realize that, hey, we got all these
29:05
Speaker 1: prospects and all these pieces, but you still need veteran
29:07
Speaker 1: guys to win baseball games. And I think they're seeing
29:10
Speaker 1: that right now that prospects don't always equate to wins
29:13
Speaker 1: at the big league level.
29:15
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see where the Baltimore Orioles are
29:17
Speaker 2: because they are desperately in need of some starting pitching too.
29:20
Speaker 2: They may not even be in the postseason conversation, come
29:23
Speaker 2: trade the deadline?
29:23
Speaker 3: What do we think about this? Gentleman?
29:25
Speaker 2: Grant McCauley on X another scorelessenning tonight with triple A
29:28
Speaker 2: Gwinette for the Braves. And Craig Kimberl, who has now
29:31
Speaker 2: appeared in back to back games for the first time.
29:33
Speaker 2: Overall the veteran closer, he's been effective five in an inning,
29:37
Speaker 2: five and the third innings rather zero hits, zero runs,
29:40
Speaker 2: just one free pass. He has seven k's. Do we
29:43
Speaker 2: see Craig Kimbrel coming up soon?
29:45
Speaker 4: Kratz, he'll be up soon.
29:49
Speaker 6: I think he probably has some type of out and
29:51
Speaker 6: numbers like that. We'll get him a job. He'll put
29:53
Speaker 6: up numbers like that in stretches in the big leagues.
29:57
Speaker 6: Can he be your closer?
29:58
Speaker 1: No?
29:59
Speaker 6: I don't think teams. I don't think the Braves are
30:00
Speaker 6: even going to look to put him in a closer.
30:03
Speaker 6: Can't he close games?
30:05
Speaker 4: Yes?
30:07
Speaker 6: Minor leagues guys swinging a little more so, those walks,
30:10
Speaker 6: how much of that? How much of those outs are
30:12
Speaker 6: in the zone? That's what I would look at. But
30:14
Speaker 6: he's going to be up soon.
30:18
Speaker 5: Agree?
30:19
Speaker 3: Those games.
30:19
Speaker 2: But I think the postseason is where you know where
30:22
Speaker 2: you question it.
30:25
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think the biggest thing line is
30:27
Speaker 1: trying to find somebody to help them get to the postseason, right.
30:29
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it as well,
30:31
Speaker 1: as you're right. I think with the Braves you have
30:33
Speaker 1: to crawl before you walk. So I think they're looking
30:35
Speaker 1: for somebody that can give them some lymp in the
30:37
Speaker 1: back of that bullpen, or maybe even in the middle
30:40
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30:41
Speaker 5: Like Cratsy said he did.
30:42
Speaker 1: The stuff still plays, right, Is it elite like it
30:45
Speaker 1: once was? No, but the stuff is still there. I
30:48
Speaker 1: think Craig now, I think Craig is still trying to
30:50
Speaker 1: figure out how to pitch with the stuff being.
30:52
Speaker 5: Down somewhat now.
30:53
Speaker 1: He used to get away with a lot of just
30:54
Speaker 1: attacking guys on his own dominating with the stuff.
30:58
Speaker 5: But I think he's figuring out a way to pitch.
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Speaker 2: So Dan Hayes MLB, talking about Carlos Correa, says he
32:03
Speaker 2: feels good but isn't getting the results he wants. Asked
32:06
Speaker 2: if he's dealing with any pain or discomfort. I'm dealing
32:08
Speaker 2: with my swing sucks. Right now, we've all been there, right,
32:11
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I'm dealing with. I don't feel
32:13
Speaker 2: too far off. It's not like I'm going out and
32:15
Speaker 2: striking out three times a night. There's been some good contacts,
32:18
Speaker 2: some good AB's. It's just the consistency is not quite there,
32:21
Speaker 2: and that's what we're trying to find. I would imagine
32:23
Speaker 2: cam will start with you. That's got to be an
32:25
Speaker 2: awful feeling. You said it earlier. It's like an alien
32:27
Speaker 2: comes and takes away your ability to play baseball. What's
32:30
Speaker 2: he going through?
32:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know again, a guy like Carlos, who also
32:35
Speaker 1: we've seen him have some struggles in the past, right,
32:36
Speaker 1: he has hasn't been doing one of these guys that
32:39
Speaker 1: we talked about who just year after your knocks to
32:41
Speaker 1: cover off the ball.
32:42
Speaker 5: But we know he's a postseason menace.
32:44
Speaker 1: But I think guys like Carlos Carlos, I think it's
32:46
Speaker 1: as simple as what he said, taking accountability my swing
32:49
Speaker 1: is not there right now, but also getting back to
32:51
Speaker 1: what you do well right. And I think it's as
32:53
Speaker 1: simple as when I was with Houston. One thing that
32:56
Speaker 1: they constantly did month after month they checked the heat chart. Hey,
32:59
Speaker 1: can this is where you handle the ball extremely well.
33:03
Speaker 1: This is where you do the most damage. And at
33:05
Speaker 1: times as players, sometimes we get away from our strengths
33:08
Speaker 1: and we worry about what the pitcher does really well, right,
33:10
Speaker 1: we forget about what we do great, so we start
33:13
Speaker 1: chasing their strength. So I think it's as simple as
33:15
Speaker 1: for Carlos Byron, you know, get the ball close to
33:18
Speaker 1: you and look the do damage in the middle of
33:20
Speaker 1: the field. And I know it sounds simple here when
33:22
Speaker 1: you know from my couch seat, but I think that's
33:27
Speaker 1: the plan, right, and also understand it and say, you know,
33:29
Speaker 1: one of the best guys that I think I've been around,
33:31
Speaker 1: Frankie Lindor, he always talked about sacrificing at bats when
33:35
Speaker 1: things aren't going well. So I think that's the situation
33:37
Speaker 1: right now where you gonna hate the next ten to
33:39
Speaker 1: twenty at bats. I'm gonna try to do this. I'm
33:41
Speaker 1: gonna try to go low line drives back up the
33:44
Speaker 1: middle and see what happens, and then you start to
33:47
Speaker 1: see if you can gain a little bit of ground.
33:49
Speaker 1: So I think he has a plan. Carlos is a
33:52
Speaker 1: cage rat. He's always in there trying to figure things out.
33:55
Speaker 1: So I think if he continues to keep that mentality.
33:58
Speaker 1: I think it'll you know, it'll pan out when it's
34:00
Speaker 1: all said and done.
34:03
Speaker 3: It's gotta be tough, Eric, right.
34:06
Speaker 6: It's an opportunity to keep learning. Look, he's not aged out.
34:08
Speaker 6: It's not like you're looking at him like short stops
34:11
Speaker 6: at thirty four years old. Now he's thirty years old,
34:14
Speaker 6: like Carlos will be fine. He's had dips. I was
34:17
Speaker 6: looking at the stats the one year when he was
34:20
Speaker 6: you know, he had a two thirty average. Then last
34:23
Speaker 6: year got back up to three ten with a nine
34:25
Speaker 6: oh five.
34:26
Speaker 4: Ops.
34:27
Speaker 6: If you're asking me if Carlos Korey is going to
34:29
Speaker 6: figure it out, I'm gonna say yes ten times out
34:33
Speaker 6: of ten until the end of the season and he
34:35
Speaker 6: didn't figure it out.
34:36
Speaker 2: Here's a little something that first team Ken Rosenthal ever covered.
34:39
Speaker 2: The Orioles rotations. Eer is back below six. I'm not
34:43
Speaker 2: sure that we should be excited about it, but it's
34:45
Speaker 2: no longer the worse than Major League Baseball. It's now
34:48
Speaker 2: five point eight two, ranked twenty ninth behind the Colorado Rockies.
34:52
Speaker 2: My word, I thought the Orioles Eric Kratz were going
34:55
Speaker 2: to be a lot better than this. However, their starting
34:58
Speaker 2: rotation is decimated.
34:59
Speaker 5: We know that.
35:01
Speaker 6: Yes, only if like you could find some starting rotation
35:04
Speaker 6: in the off season, only if you could have gone
35:07
Speaker 6: out and gotten I mean, Hazus Lizardo. On the chat,
35:11
Speaker 6: we talked about different people that you know, the Orioles
35:14
Speaker 6: went tried to go after. It didn't happen. Hey, you
35:17
Speaker 6: know what, it's tough. They went after I'm pretty sure
35:20
Speaker 6: they went after Burns and gave him you know, four
35:23
Speaker 6: year was it one hundred and fifty?
35:27
Speaker 3: They did go after him. He just wanted to be
35:29
Speaker 3: in Arizona.
35:29
Speaker 4: That was in Arizona.
35:31
Speaker 6: But they made they made a high aav offer. You
35:35
Speaker 6: know what, when it's not working out, you have to
35:38
Speaker 6: pivot and be able to make the next adjustment.
35:40
Speaker 4: This is their window.
35:41
Speaker 6: And never am I going to say it was a
35:44
Speaker 6: failed off season.
35:46
Speaker 4: But they didn't do good.
35:47
Speaker 6: Like to me, they really they They fell on their
35:50
Speaker 6: face when they were trying to make these offers. And
35:53
Speaker 6: it's kind of coming to fruition now. I think they'll
35:56
Speaker 6: have some I think they'll have some positive steps from
35:59
Speaker 6: their bullpen starting rotation. It's tough when you lose your
36:03
Speaker 6: number one guy, it's tough and.
36:05
Speaker 1: I won't let them forget about this. I'm sorry you
36:08
Speaker 1: got all those prospects of Plethorugh, you're doing a great
36:11
Speaker 1: job as an organization going to get them. Garrett Crochet's
36:15
Speaker 1: right there, like, you know, if you don't get Burns,
36:20
Speaker 1: give up a couple of those guys, go get a
36:22
Speaker 1: guy like Garrett Crochet. So I'm with you, Cratzy. They
36:25
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you made your bet and you
36:27
Speaker 1: kind of have to lay in.
36:28
Speaker 2: It wasn't Walker Ruler right there, wasn't Sandy ol Contrara
36:32
Speaker 2: right there.
36:33
Speaker 3: I mean, weren't these.
36:33
Speaker 5: Other Flaherty's out there? I mean, and these are guys
36:38
Speaker 5: that I don't think it.
36:39
Speaker 1: Would have cost you that much when you talk about
36:40
Speaker 1: those names, right they they're not warning what Corbyn Burns
36:43
Speaker 1: was asking for. So there were pieces out there, the
36:48
Speaker 1: prospects a lot.
36:49
Speaker 4: Yep, it'd be too late.
36:52
Speaker 2: They may not make the posts or they may not
36:54
Speaker 2: you know, they might be out of it at the
36:55
Speaker 2: trade deadline, you guys.
36:58
Speaker 1: And listen and nobody's talking about this, and it's early
37:02
Speaker 1: the rays. They're not going anywhere. They're not I know,
37:06
Speaker 1: I know it got a lot going on, But when
37:08
Speaker 1: you just look at the construction.
37:09
Speaker 5: Is what they always do. I'm with you, Alana.
37:11
Speaker 1: They've got the Orioles have some holes to fill because
37:14
Speaker 1: the Rays aren't going anywhere either.
37:22
Speaker 2: All right, time out for the hot cornter the Texas
37:26
Speaker 2: Rangers versus the Athletics. What are we doing here? Jacob
37:31
Speaker 2: Wilson gets his first walk off? Is that exciting to you, guys?
37:35
Speaker 5: Yes? I think his setup is more exciting than anything.
37:38
Speaker 4: Is that?
37:38
Speaker 3: Why is that?
37:40
Speaker 5: Is he?
37:40
Speaker 4: Like?
37:41
Speaker 5: Does that crazy? Who is that? That? Is that? The
37:44
Speaker 5: he hits crazy?
37:47
Speaker 6: He hits, he hits what you said it, kras he
37:51
Speaker 6: hits you said it.
37:52
Speaker 1: Don't worry about hat looks. Worry about what? Is he
37:55
Speaker 1: getting a job done? And he is getting the job done.
37:57
Speaker 3: I mean, here's something that's fun.
37:59
Speaker 2: He recorded the a's final walkoff at the Oakland Coliseum. Guys,
38:03
Speaker 2: so September twenty fourth of last season. And then he
38:05
Speaker 2: has the first walk off in Sacramento.
38:09
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of special.
38:10
Speaker 5: Hey, don't, young fella.
38:13
Speaker 1: I know they love we love homers in a game,
38:15
Speaker 1: but there was once upon a time when players did
38:18
Speaker 1: care about average. And and again, I want to stay
38:20
Speaker 1: here too long, but average says a lot about a guy.
38:22
Speaker 5: Right lets me know.
38:23
Speaker 1: He can get a guy in, he can get a
38:25
Speaker 1: guy over, he can come through in a big situation.
38:27
Speaker 5: So you know, I love what he's gonna do.
38:29
Speaker 1: And guys like that the power will continue to come
38:32
Speaker 1: once they figured things out and realize, hey, I can
38:34
Speaker 1: take more chances.
38:36
Speaker 3: Is he your Rookie of the Year carendidate? Oh yeah, sure, Yeah.
38:40
Speaker 6: For sure he's He's Luis arrives from from the right
38:44
Speaker 6: side of the plate and he's a rookie. So you
38:47
Speaker 6: can't not have him as a candidate. Will he win,
38:51
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to look at something like three forty
38:53
Speaker 6: three point fifty for him to win. What he's doing
38:56
Speaker 6: right now awesome, And he's in three point thirty with
38:59
Speaker 6: ops play us at one twenty eight. He's got four
39:02
Speaker 6: punch outs in ninety five at bats is ninety nine
39:06
Speaker 6: plate appearances. I'm sorry, ninety five plate appearances, four punch outs.
39:11
Speaker 6: He adds a dynamic to the game that I don't
39:13
Speaker 6: think all pitchers are able to combat. They're just looking
39:18
Speaker 6: to strike dudes out, and he's not going to strike out.
39:21
Speaker 6: He's got a lot going on with the swing and
39:23
Speaker 6: he makes contact it's not always barrels.
39:26
Speaker 4: He makes contact. He is a pro hitter and he's
39:28
Speaker 4: shown that early in his career.
39:30
Speaker 3: Here Eric, That's what Cam was saying.
39:32
Speaker 2: It was like back in the day, average mattered, right,
39:34
Speaker 2: Putting the ball in play mattered, you know, hitting the content,
39:37
Speaker 2: pitching the contact mattered. And it almost seems like this
39:40
Speaker 2: kid doesn't want to strikeout. It's like back in the
39:42
Speaker 2: day it was an embarrassing act if you struck out. Yes,
39:45
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the way Tony Gwynn used to play,
39:48
Speaker 2: you know, and it's.
39:49
Speaker 5: Like, oh, look at you. It matters they win.
39:53
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean it's like now there's like three outcomes, right, strikeout, walk,
39:58
Speaker 2: home run. Like now seems like he plays like in
40:02
Speaker 2: a different era. That feels like, you know, like you
40:04
Speaker 2: should have been playing a long time ago.
40:06
Speaker 5: Yes he does. Amen, I love that.
40:08
Speaker 1: You're right, But again, look at the teams that have
40:10
Speaker 1: won your You're Dodgers, the Braves, go back to the past.
40:14
Speaker 5: The Diamondbacks who have been in it, what do they do.
40:16
Speaker 5: They find a way to manufacture runs, right, They went
40:19
Speaker 5: back to that old school brand of baseball.
40:21
Speaker 1: We don't have to wait for the home run, so
40:22
Speaker 1: that guy, that young man. I think he's a breath
40:25
Speaker 1: of fresh air to the game and how it's kind
40:27
Speaker 1: of starting to trend back to the game that we
40:28
Speaker 1: used to.
40:29
Speaker 2: Love, yeah, or the game that, as the purist would say,
40:32
Speaker 2: the game that when it was played the right way?
40:35
Speaker 2: All right, coming up, now, don't you don't think so, Eric,
40:37
Speaker 2: you don't like that?
40:38
Speaker 3: All right, that's fine.
40:39
Speaker 4: No, the game's different. The game is different.
40:42
Speaker 5: Dudes.
40:42
Speaker 6: Dudes would like cut the ball to make it move.
40:45
Speaker 6: Now now dudeses throw a billion miles an hour they
40:48
Speaker 6: have to make the game is.
40:51
Speaker 5: Just it is.
40:53
Speaker 1: But what's not different is going out and finding guys
40:55
Speaker 1: who can put the ball in play, who can move runners.
40:58
Speaker 5: That part of the game should still be.
41:00
Speaker 2: But the problem is they don't get They don't get
41:02
Speaker 2: paid though those are.
41:03
Speaker 1: The got you know, but guess what that get A
41:05
Speaker 1: lot of how many rings you got exactly exactly when
41:12
Speaker 1: you when everybody gets paid?
41:15
Speaker 5: I might not, but everybody gets paid when you win.
41:19
Speaker 2: You know what I think they should do when you
41:21
Speaker 2: go to the World Series. I think broadcasters should get
41:24
Speaker 2: a full full World series.
41:26
Speaker 5: Share a ring, ring ring it for sure.
41:34
Speaker 3: Listen, I got the ring, but I didn't get the share.
41:37
Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take the share over the ring, and
41:38
Speaker 2: then I'll take the share and go buy a ring.
41:40
Speaker 5: No, give me a share.
41:55
Speaker 3: We are slapping some hands.
41:56
Speaker 2: We want to give our flowers to Hortes Soled who
41:59
Speaker 2: read ten years of Major League Baseball service time. He
42:03
Speaker 2: is fully vested in his pension. That is an achievement
42:06
Speaker 2: that is so difficult to do. You guys, only seven
42:10
Speaker 2: percent of players who get to the majors get to
42:14
Speaker 2: ten years of actual service time. And you are both
42:18
Speaker 2: guys that have played this game for a very long time.
42:19
Speaker 2: You know how hard this game is. What does that
42:23
Speaker 2: mean for a player when they get to ten years accomplishment?
42:27
Speaker 4: It is to accomplished. It's huge.
42:28
Speaker 6: That's hard to get to because you don't know if
42:31
Speaker 6: you ever get a day in the big leagues, let
42:33
Speaker 6: alone stay in the big leagues. It comes out to
42:35
Speaker 6: basically three guys from every two teams. It's like one
42:41
Speaker 6: point eight guys per team, so it's essentially three guys
42:45
Speaker 6: from every So every team you watch, the twenty six
42:47
Speaker 6: guys that are on that roster, only three make it.
42:53
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
42:55
Speaker 5: It is incredible.
42:56
Speaker 1: Some of my favorite players that I grew up watching
42:58
Speaker 1: didn't make it ten years and you'd be surprised. You
43:00
Speaker 1: you look back and you go why they didn't and
43:03
Speaker 1: again the run is short. But like Mark, uh, you
43:05
Speaker 1: know bullpen coach Mike Harkey told me when I when
43:08
Speaker 1: I got my tenth that final day to get that
43:10
Speaker 1: tenth year, he said, they can't tell you Ish no more.
43:17
Speaker 5: They can't tell me is they can't do nothing.
43:19
Speaker 6: Cam was in the bushes when he got his ten years,
43:21
Speaker 6: and normally somebody gets some a gift.
43:23
Speaker 4: I was in the bushes with him.
43:25
Speaker 6: I was the highest paid player on the team, and
43:27
Speaker 6: I was like Cam, like, I don't know you. You
43:29
Speaker 6: drink some red or something like I'm gonna get you
43:31
Speaker 6: like a box of red wine.
43:34
Speaker 1: And a lot of the guy that the guy that
43:36
Speaker 1: I am. Guess what I did? I got them.
43:38
Speaker 5: Spread I did.
43:42
Speaker 1: Anybody watching the mL B P A two, I need
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Speaker 1: my gold card. It got washed away in the hurricane
43:48
Speaker 1: Hurricane Helen. I lost it in my storage unit. Had
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Speaker 1: a nice storage unit. Storage storage unit got crushed.
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Speaker 5: If you watch the m l B P A, I
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Speaker 5: need my I need my new goal Listen.
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Speaker 2: I got you, I got you can't because my husband
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Speaker 2: is on My husband works for the PA SO and
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Speaker 2: he hit, I will get you, I will get you
44:07
Speaker 2: your gold card, my friend.
44:08
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
44:09
Speaker 2: So remember guys, he he defected from Cuba in twenty eleven,
44:14
Speaker 2: which is a special thing to me because my parents,
44:16
Speaker 2: my mom came from Cuba and it's tough.
44:19
Speaker 3: It's tough.
44:20
Speaker 2: So for him to be able to get out of
44:21
Speaker 2: that communist country and hit ten years in.
44:23
Speaker 3: The show, that's that's a big deal. All right, crats hats?
44:27
Speaker 3: What's on your head?
44:29
Speaker 5: Yeah?
44:30
Speaker 6: No hair, no hair. I had to change. I had
44:34
Speaker 6: to change the hat for a Lona So maybe i'll.
44:38
Speaker 2: I love I love the Phillies, man, I don't. I
44:40
Speaker 2: love the Phillies. I've got no problem with the Phillies.
44:42
Speaker 2: That's a sick hat.
44:43
Speaker 3: If you want to send me that hat Philadelphia, please do.
44:47
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I thought you wanted this hat.
44:49
Speaker 6: This hads like a little double as a trash can.
44:51
Speaker 5: It's so big, nogging mega min.
44:57
Speaker 3: What are you guys looking forward to this weekend? What
44:59
Speaker 3: do you want to watch? Who are you watching.
45:04
Speaker 4: Game tonight? Paul Skins, I don't.
45:10
Speaker 6: Care that it's the Pirate Persons, Dodgers. I don't care
45:13
Speaker 6: like I think the Dodgers are gonna end up beating them.
45:15
Speaker 2: Because are you gonna stay up and watch the game
45:18
Speaker 2: starts at ten o'clock your time?
45:20
Speaker 6: Absolutely easy, peasy. I do two things well, one of
45:24
Speaker 6: them is not sleep.
45:26
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch the first place padres.
45:30
Speaker 3: How dare you?
45:32
Speaker 5: I'm just need my car, I need my goal card,
45:34
Speaker 5: A lot of them.
45:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, guys, I have a very have have
45:40
Speaker 2: a very good weekend. Great to be on the show
45:41
Speaker 2: with you as I pinch hit for Scott, bround for
45:44
Speaker 2: a j for Claudia, for Eric, for Cam, for all
45:47
Speaker 2: of us at Foul Territory. Have a great weekend. We
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