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AEW Highliights and Dynamite Preview - STOP the Body Shaming! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with
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AW fan hub. I'm Kelson and I'm here with Alex. I don't know
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how to even I don't even know how to begin because it's so preposterous.
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Yeah, it's stupid, you know, it's it's aggravating. Look, I'm
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of course talking about the body shaming and even the body worshiping of the wrestlers,
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not only in AAW but everywhere. I mean, it's it doesn't even
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have to do with wrestling, it could be anything. But Deanna Barrazzo made
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her your debut on Collision against Red Velvet, and look, I'm not going
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to sugarcoat it was just a shit storm. Would you agree with this?
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I mean, I don't know how to begin. Yeah, I think I
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guess what happened on Instagram was just so many negative comments about Deanna Prott those
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body or weight and I didn't even see them. I just read about after
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the fact that AW had to actually shut down their Instagram comments and even Deanna
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Parozzo had to respond to it. Yeah, and I think it's just awful,
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and it's she didn't have to respond to it, and I respect her
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for doing it, because it was so stupid you shouldn't even give it the
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time of day. Yeah, And I thought her response was very you know,
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it was almost like humorous, like taken very well, taken in stride,
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and she looked really good, I thought her response to it. And
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it's unfortunate that she even has to respond. Frankly, Yeah, I mean
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look ed. We're kind of narrowly down to Deanna Parozzo here, and I
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really don't want to do that because, let's face it, it's not even
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a men or a women thing. It's it's ghost to the men too,
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because they get just as much flack. Look, you know, I'm just
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so dumbfounded by this. I don't know where to begin, So I'm just
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gonna lay it out there. You watch wrestling. I watch wrestling personally.
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I watch wrestling for what wrestling. I enjoy the stories, of course,
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and I enjoy the wrestling. If a wrestler could wrestle, I really don't
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care if they have a pretty or handsome face. I don't care if they
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have an eight pack, six pack or whatever. If they can wrestle,
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they can wrestle. I don't understand this. And then you have these people
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to come onto the internet and look, they should just make Hey, if
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you're gonna say something about body shaming or body worshiping this because when I'm talking
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about body worshiping, they people will say, oh, I would love to
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get that in this. You know what I mean. I mean, like
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you stand a shot in the world of doing that. People should be required
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to post their pictures or the naked body when you make comments like that,
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you see, you know what I mean. It's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah,
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And it's almost surprising from wrestling fans because wrestling fans aren't generally I think
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the popular kids in high school, like you think they'd have a little bit
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more common sense and be able to look at themselves in the mirror and be
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like, why am I holding other people up to these unrealistic standards? Yeah,
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I mean I made this. Look. We had an interview. It's
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on the aw fan hub subreddit right now. It was a post that I
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made with an interview that somebody did with Eddie Kingston, and I apologize for
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not remembering who. But he deleted his Twitter account not recently but fairly recently,
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like within the last year, and they interviewed him. They asked him
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why deleted his account, and he was specifically talked about the things that were
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being said about ReHO. God, yeah, you know. Now, look,
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let me lay this out to you, and I'm gonna use myself as
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this example. Okay, is Riho smaller than I am? Yes? Okay,
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she's small. She's small, Okay, And she's a lot smaller than
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I am. That being said, she is a better wrestler than I would
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ever be. If you're coming down and you're putting your opinion on Riho saying
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she can't wrestle because she's too small and she weighs under one hundred pounds,
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get your ass in the ring against Riho and see what happens. She'll run
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circles around, You'll be exhausted at about thirty seconds, and then she'll kick
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you in the freaking face and it's done. Yeah. Yeah. And And
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I think taking that example of people saying someone's too small, like you look
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at Hook and Hooks wrestling Samoa Joe and Hook's a smaller guy. But if
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he can pick up Samoa Joe and suplex him, then what does his size
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matter at all? Like it doesn't. And if someone's you know, a
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bigger person and they can last a whole match. They have the agility,
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like they have the ability. It doesn't matter what someone looks like or it
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just matters what they can do in the ring. And I think we all
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need to and I'm guilty of it too. I think I've been a little
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bit overly critical in my head sometimes about Brian Keith just because he's a little
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bit on the shorter side, And I need to even remind myself, like
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that doesn't matter if he can do the things he does in the ring.
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Like we need to stop judging people based on how they look. There are
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different types of wrestlers. You'll agree with this on you know, you've got
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technical wrestlers, You've got lucha libre wrestlers. You've got the heavyweights. You've
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got the guys that look like they don't leave the gym but only to sleep.
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Yeah, you know Brian Cage, Tony Nice. Yeah, I'd even
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put Ethan Page in that They're all going to have different styles of wrestling.
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You look at somebody like Keith Lee and you just looking at him without seeing
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him wrestle at all, just looking at him, there is no way you
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would I believe most people won't believe what that man is able to do in
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the ring, you know, But it's as simple as that. But let's
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say that Keith Lee couldn't do what he does in the ring, and I
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mean talking about jumping over the top rope and all that crazy stuff that he
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does. He's still a wrestler that could squad pretty much anybody their wrestling ring
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that makes these comments on social media. It's preposterous. These people are spewing
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off at the mouth and they have no wrestling knowledge other than oh, I've
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been watching it on TV since you know, I was twelve years old.
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A big deal. You have no training. M It's now. Sure there
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are people that probably do have boxing training or whatever, but guess what,
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your opinion still doesn't matter because it's it's far fetched. You look on behalf
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of the internet wrestling community that has two working brain cells. Anyone that has
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more than two working brain cells will know that what everybody said about Diana Parazzo
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was totally wrong and preposterous. And I hope that you agree with that.
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I know you do, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it's just sad
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and I feel bad for the wrestlers that have to put themselves out there on
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Instagram to try to, you know, build a fan base, but then
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also at the same time they're subjecting themselves to just stupid cowards who just stay
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under the guise of anonymity like whatever they think that they can get away with.
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Uh. Yeah, it's it's sad. It's just sad. If you've
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ever seen the movie Idiocracy, this is what it reminds me of this kind
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of talk. It's just yeah, look, I don't want to talk about
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this anymore because I'm just gonna get more and more pissed off. You don't
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want my med Italian to come out. Mm hmm. You know, it's
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just one of those like so I'm gonna take some deep breasts and Alex,
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what do you want to talk about? Yeah, I guess maybe we can
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just go through some highlights from the weekend of wrestling from I thought they put
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on a great show on Saturday with Collision and Battle of the Belts. Sometimes
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you don't know what to expect going in, but I thought especially Battle of
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the Belts really kind of surprised me. But yeah, I just thought it
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was a great night of wrestling. I think the first thing that I want
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to talk about was the cope open. I don't know if you have any
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thoughts about the cope open. I really don't. I don't like it,
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you know, I really I don't like it because you're wasting cope. I
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think to me, it's I imagine that it was probably Adam Copeland's idea,
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and I think it's like a way to get him working with some younger guys
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that otherwise he's probably not going to have a chance to wrestle with. You
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know, first week we saw Griff Garrison kind of come out of nowhere,
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and I thought giving him a little mic time and a match, and I
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thought he looked good and I thought that was fun. Here here's my problem
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with it. So Adam Copland thought had a match against Lee Moriarty. Yeah,
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is that right? Yeah? Shaneler Promotions, Shane Taylor Promotions. It
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was the opening match of the night, was it not? Wasn't? I
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think it was the very I think it started things off. Yeah, I
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think you're right. I you know, having Adam Copeland come out that was
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good. But I just can't see people sticking around on TV with everything else
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was going on to see Lee Moriarty at Adam Copeland. I'm sorry when when
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you're trying to build something your first match, you can't put a squash match
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in your first match. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I
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see what you're saying, and I think I even had the same thought.
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Especially Yeah Lee Moriarity, he hasn't been very successful in aw It's same with
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Shane Taylor and having them both out there, it's great that they get the
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opportunity to try to do something. But leading leading with that, I see
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why you'd have a problem with that. I want to go back to what
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you originally started this discussion off with. Was I got the impression and correct
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me if I'm wrong, please that you thought Battle the Belts was a better
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show than Collision. Yeah. Like I would say the last thirty minutes of
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Collision was probably the highlight of the night for me, because I love FTR
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and I love the House of Black, and when I realized that they were
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coming out with like thirty minutes left and that they were going to get like
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time to put on an awesome match, and I thought they completely delivered.
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But other than that, I thought up to that point it was kind of
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like a mediocre show for me. I mean, there was a couple,
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so, I mean it was nice with the ottoparazzo and red velvet. You
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know. Yeah, it was a cool match. It was a cool It
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was a cool match. But yeah, the House of Black and FTR just
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tore the place apart. That was That was the best part. Yeah,
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of collision, and then we went right at the Battle of the Belts with
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that street fight that actually took place in the street for like pent of it.
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I was like, you know, I thought that match was just over
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the top five. Yeah, like any other night, that would have been
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the best match. But I love FTR and getting them did wrestle for thirty
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minutes is awesome. But yeah, that street fight was was wild. That
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that spot with uh them wrecking Ret Titus's car, well yeah, they're really
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doing the whole windshield stick for bleeding it for all the money it's worth,
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aren't they? Yeah? Yeah for sure. Yeah, no, don't park
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your cars near an aw arena for sure. How about that bump that Semi
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Gafara took. Oh my god, geez, I'm like, you go on
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Twitter and you go on Instagram. You know, whether you like Semmi Guevar
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or not. You could tell that people are like, hey, do you
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do know that you just haven't had had a kid. Why are you trying
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to kill yourself? You know, you know, it's just like people are
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like really worried for Semi. Gafar's like he said he was gonna take be
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more careful. Yeah, well you threw that out the window in his second
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match back right. Yeah, And like you know, they say to save
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your big bumps for big moments, and this is not, by any means
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a big show. It's not a pay per view, it's not even a
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Dynamite. It's the hour after collision on Battle of the Best. And he's
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like, yeah, wow, he's a wild man. Yeah. Well,
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you know I will say this is that the FDR and House a black match,
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and the Texas not the Texas. Everything seems like it's Texas at aw.
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The street fight wasn't a Texas street fight. It was just a street
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fight. Those did seem like pay per view matches to me. Those are
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more more like pay per view matches than most a lot of the matches that
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were our World's End Yeah, yeah, for sure, Like and I was
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disappointed at worlds End we didn't get an FTR house. The Black Match and
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they really made up for it, like giving them thirty minutes just to go
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out there and just tear the house down. And that match just kept going.
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It had like different valleys and peaks, and by the end, like
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I had no idea who was gonna win, and House the Black winning was
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great, and yeah, I love that match and Buddy Matthews got the pin.
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Buddy Matthews is like to me, I look at Buddy Matthews as this
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great wrestler who has his duty is to get this to eat pins. Whatever
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the House of Black loses, it's Buddy Matthews. It eats the pin and
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he never gets the pit. He finally got a pin. I was so
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happy for Buddy Matthews. Buddy Matthews is incredible, Like, yeah, he's
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If I had to fight anyone in ad W, I think the last person
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I would want to fight is Buddy Matthews. He's so strong and quick,
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and he just doesn't look happy. He haird that persona. I mean,
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he's got his character down because he always looks absolutely busible. I think he's
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got a splitter on the bottom of his foot. Yeah, and I think
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he probably realizes he doesn't have the tattoos that the other guys have, so
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he has to really double down on looking bad or angry whole time. Your
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word. Not the first person that said that. Yeah, somebody said that
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over the weekend in our live chat, going to make up. Yeah,
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so let's what do you want to talk about next, Alex, Let's keep
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this ball rolling. Yeah? Sure, so so the next thing I prepared.
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And I think faction has been a big talking point, and and it
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seems like the number of factions just keeps on going up and up in aew
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without any signs of slowing down. And we've seen like Acclaimed and Bullet Club
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Gold talking about the importance of factions and then possibly joining ups Gang. Yeah,
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yeah, Bank Bank Scissor Gang exactly. Yeah. I thought it'd be
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fun if we Yeah, I just went back and forth and picked out who
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we think are the best factions in ae W. Sounds good, so yeah,
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I I I'm thinking we start off you give me who you think is
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the best faction and who you think is your favorite faction. So the best
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faction, like, who's the top faction in ae W? But then who
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is your favorite You know, there's two factions really that stand out to me,
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and they're kind of equal favorites. But I will say, from top
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to bottom, I'm going to go House of Black as my number one pick.
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The reason for that is, from top to bottom, even Julia Hart,
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she's a TBS champion. You got these three guys and Julia that are
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just good. My second would be the Blackpool Combat Club kind of the same
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thing. But I hate to say this, but Wheeler Yuda is probably not
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quite up to the standards of Julia Hart as far as you know, the
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success and the character and everything like that. But I I do believe he
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will get there. And that's not a dig on on on you. I
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just think that it. Uh, that's it's all. I would go.
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House of Black is number one, and uh closely followed by the black Pool
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Cowby Club. What about you? Yeah, no, that's that is exactly
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my two picks, because How's the Black? I don't How's the Black.
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I feel like they've been a bit hard done by. They deserve so much
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more in my opinion, and they've been a little bit stop and start.
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But to me, that's my favorite three guys. Well, how Black can't
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stay healthy? That's the problem with House of Black. I guess. Yeah.
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We had Brody King break his hand, and Malachi's had his back issues,
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and Eddie had a toward muscle in his calf I think was his most
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recent of course. Uh, Buddy Matthews had a separated shoulder. Oh yeah,
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yeah. But I mean even if one guy's injured, you just put
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the other two guys in a tag team and you still have Julia with them.
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Like, and my favorite thing about House of Black is just I don't
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know how many songs they have, three, four, maybe even five between
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the four of them, right, all of them I love, especially I
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mean Malachi Black's original song that they come out to. I think when it's
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him and Buddy is a tag team still yeah, yeah, but yeah,
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for sure, House of Black's my favorite. I don't think that they're they're
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not the top team because I think if House of Black faced the Blackpool Combat
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Club in a three on three match, I would I would bet on the
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Blackpool Combat Club to win, just based on how the shows go, you
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know, right, Well, my reason for the back love for saying House
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of Black over to Blackpool Combat Club is because I just enjoyed the dark psychological
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warfare that they do MM which Black Book Comback Club does it too, but
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House of Black just takes it to another level. Yeah, And sometimes we
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get too much of the House of Black talking and saying cryptic, scary stuff
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and it doesn't lead anywhere. But having the House of Black threatening Dax's daughter
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and that stuff in playing better mind games than I think we've seen them with
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some of their other feuds. I actually, you know, also the stuff
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with Daddy Ass going back to their feud with the Acclaimed, that was pretty
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good too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I love House of
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Black. They're for my top group in AW definitely, but I just feel
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like I want them to get the opportunity to shine even more, like on
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pay per view. They weren't booked at worlds End, right, No,
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they weren't. Well what about what about? Uh? So we kind of
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agree on House of Black and Black Hole combat Club. That's the top two.
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I mean, although you may put in Combat Club at BCC ahead of
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House of Black. Uh what about the third? Who would you put at
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three? Yeah? Okay, I have I have two picks. I'm gonna
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come at it from different angles. I think in terms of how they've been
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treated and how they've been shown in storylines and how I think they're going to
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be created going forward. I think Undisputed Kingdom I say that they're not my
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favorite. I I am a little bit hesitant of how they're going to be
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going down the end of the future. But I think Undisputed Kingdom is gonna
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be featured heavily on TV and they're going to be winning a lot of matches
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and winning some titles, especially once Adam Cole is healthy. I think that
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top three of like Adam Cole, Wardlow, Roderick Strong is a strong top
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three for a for a stable. But yeah, what are your thoughts on
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that? I wouldn't even list the Undispeeded Kingdom in my top five. And
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the reason why is they haven't done anything yet. Well, he won,
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he did lead us on for months and months attacking MJF and under masks,
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and they did win a championship on one against an injured foe with help.
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I'm sorry that just did not impress me too much. They honestly, they
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haven't done anything as individually. Yes, they have done stuff. Wardlow has
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been on a run. Roderick Strong, well, not so much. He's
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gotten his butt handed to them quite a bit. Here lately too. You
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know the Kingdom Bag team. Not impressed, Just be honest with you,
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not impressed. They're the weakest link. Goodbye anything. Uh No, I
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wouldn't even put but you said you had you said, but you said you
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had another one too. Yeah, So that that's kind of my my pick
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based on who I think is gonna end up featured heavily and pushed and winning
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matches. But my my pick would be the Don Kallis family. I think
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those three guys are and I'm leaving off will Osprey because I don't know if
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he's actually going to be part of them going forward once he actually shows up.
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But Kyle Fletcher, Powerhouse Hobbs, and Kenoski Takeshta. Those guys are
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all like future World Championship level guys in my mind. And having them lose
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to sting in Darby, I do think hurts them last Dynamite, But those
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three guys, I just think the sky's the limit for them. Yeah.
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I do think that Will ospro well Osprey is still on the painting. He
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is so right now. Don Kallis Family are not in my top five with
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will Osprey because the reason they're not in my top five. Because I can't
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come up with the top five. I can only say here's the thing without
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will Osprey, the Don Kallas family really isn't that impressive because they haven't really
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been used that much. Did beat Kenny Omega that's like a title, that's
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almost like an a W championship in my opinion. Yeah, but that was
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how long ago? And what has he done since? Nothing other than Jericho
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with a bat. Uh, Fletcher has done nothing. He won the uh
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the Rig of Honor TV Champion TV Championship. It was really good. And
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man Commander another guy. You know, we go back to the whole.
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If Rio is a man, it would be Commander. And he killed me
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in a wrestling ring. And yet people's at he's too small and shut up.
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Anyway. Look, my whole thing is like, look, the Don
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Collis family needs will Osprey or they need something else to go for them.
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Uh, you know, they need something to happen. And it's you know,
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the same thing with the Undisputed Kingdom. They haven't really done anything.
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As a fact. I don't go by individuals here. I'm talking about as
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a faction, as a faction, Blackpool Combat Club, House of Black Work,
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as a faction don Kallis Family, They're they're not focused. I'll just
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Peter Kingdom haven't had a chance to do anything yet. Look, ball Club
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Gold is missing Juice Robinson. If they do team up with the acclaim that
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Daddy hasn't make that Bang Bang Scissor Gang faction that they that has potential,
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but it hasn't been reached yet. He hasn't even been formed yet. You
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know. It's kind of like the Outcasts. To me, Outcasts had a
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really really interesting dynamic. They had a lot of potential and they didn't do
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anything at all with it. So I can't give credit where credit is due
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until they actually do something to earn the credit. So house a Black Blackpool
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Combat Club for me, and then three four five six whatever is dot dot
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dot fill it in when it happens. Well, I think the one and
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one that we forgot to mention or we haven't mentioned yet. And I I
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feel like, based on your criteria for what makes a good faction, you
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might be a fan of theirs. The patriarchy, Well, the patriarchy is
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uh, let's face it is that what you're gonna think. Christian Cage and
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Shana Wayne, I've done more than kill Switch and Nick Wayne combined. Well,
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yeah, Nick Wayne, I don't think he's had a match and I
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don't know how long. But yeah, it's like it's the same kill switches.
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I love kill I love the dynamic between Christian Cage and kill Switch.
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And I'm excited to see where that leads. Yeah, but you know,
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would you agree that they've it's time to see where that leads. I mean
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it's kind of got on for too long. Yeah, it has gone on
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for a long time, and it's almost like it was going they were seeming
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like they were pulling the plug and then they just stopped it and now they're
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hinting at it again. And yeah, it is a little bit of like
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bitter get off the pot, right. Yeah, Like I said, I've
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said it and I'll stick by it. Also, Black Black Book, Copy
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Club to me, are the only two factions of no right now. There's
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others that have tremendous potential, but they haven't either done anything at all,
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or they haven't done anything in a while. I think the Undisputed Kingdom could
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be great. I think the Bank Bank saysor Gang could be great, but
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they haven't done anything yet. You know, that's my point I'm going by
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now, there's really only two factions that are doing anything to me for me,
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I think I think factions
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do just play a prominent role in AW and I think saying that they haven't
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done anything is a little bit tough on them. But I do agree that
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there is a clear cut two factions that kind of rise above everybody else.
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And I agree with you. Like, and I'm not a huge Blackpool Combat
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Club fan. I don't really want to see Mocks and Danielson and Claudia win
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against more exciting, you know, younger guys, but it's undeniable that they're
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they're kind of three main event level guys that are, you know, holding
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it down and and House the black is just they're my favorite. What can
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I say? Yeah, I mean it's as simple as that. You know.
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Let's let's move on. Let's talk about dynamite real quick, because uh,
29:45
well there's some I don't know how to put it. Somebody's matches seem
29:53
odd on dynamite. I mean they just seem I'm not saying they're bad matches,
30:00
they just seem odd. Let's look right away at Samoa Joe versus Hook.
30:06
I mean, Hook is the FTW champion. Of course, Samoa Joe
30:08
is the AW World champion. I just I don't see how Samo Joe's not
30:19
going to lose the belt the Hook, we know that. I mean,
30:23
what so the only point in this match is for something to happen beyond the
30:33
match, you know what I mean? I honestly, I hope that this
30:37
doesn't even end in a pinfaller or submission. I hope they go back and
30:41
forth for a little while and then maybe Hook does a fireman's carry on Samoa
30:48
Joe to show that he's not a small weak wrestler, and Samoa Joe escapes
30:56
from the you know, red rum, you know, to show that he
31:00
can not only put on a submission hold, but could also get away from
31:04
one. But you know, you got Adam Page waiting in the back back
31:11
there. You've got Swerve Strickland waiting in the back back there, both of
31:15
whom, in my opinion, are more deserving of a title shot that book,
31:22
especially Swerve Strickland, because we're beat Hagman Page. Let's look at facts
31:27
here. Yeah, but I don't think this. I don't think this match.
31:32
I think it would be best in my what I'm hoping for is for
31:34
something to happen with Swerve and Hangman before Hook gets submitted in the ring or
31:41
destroyed, or maybe they do a KFE injury and some Ojoe goes to beat
31:45
him down. I don't know, but I just don't want to see this
31:48
match, and I wanted to see it be a no contest. Yeah,
31:56
I can't really see that happen. I feel like AW doesn't do a lot
32:02
of no contest endings, especially for like a big main event title match.
32:12
I don't I think it could be interesting if they did. And obviously,
32:16
you know, Samoa Joe versus Hook is not their main event program going forward,
32:22
and I don't see Hook being the champion, So it's pretty much a
32:27
foregone conclusion that Samoa Joe is gonna win here. Well, can I let
32:30
me ask you a question? Yeah, because you're the same thought that I
32:34
am that Hook is not gonna win. Does Hook gain anything at all by
32:38
losing this match? I think if Hook, Like, we haven't seen a
32:45
lot of long matches from Hook, we haven't seen a lot of important matches
32:50
from Hook. He's just kind of he's been there. It was kind of
32:54
in the beginning, it was Wow, this guy actually can do some things,
32:59
and then he's just kind of not really done anything too exciting since then,
33:07
and I think this is an opportunity to just have him in the main
33:10
event, put on a longer match, hopefully show something that gets people excited
33:19
for the future. That's kind of what I see this as, just being,
33:24
you know, a rub for Hook, but obviously he's gonna lose.
33:30
Yeah, I mean, I don't see a world, you know, if
33:34
the multiverse was a real thing, I don't see the need to mention where
33:39
Hook wins this match, so it'd be interesting to see what they come up
33:44
with to make it interesting. Yeah. One other thing I think about this
33:46
match is they've been talking about, you know, wins and losses should matter,
33:52
and Hook's one of those guys with a lot of wins and not a
33:55
lot of losses. So I think part of putting him in this spot is
34:00
just showing that they're acknowledging records again, whereas they maybe weren't taking that into
34:07
consideration for the past year or so. Yeah. Well, I what I
34:17
think is, I really don't know what they expect from this, but we're
34:22
gonna hear from Foolipe at Francois, you know, otherwise known as the Young
34:27
Bucks because they completely changed their looks. I mean they look they look like
34:34
they look like, you know, up tight Fred Chefs. I don't know
34:40
about you, but you so we're getting We're getting the box against stake A
34:49
Darbiel and a Revolution. What do you think? Just putting on the spot.
34:52
I want to hear what you think about this? Yeah, I like
34:55
it. I I think there was and I think I mentioned this on the
35:00
last podcast, but I was a little bit worried we were going to get
35:05
Les Sex Gods Chris Jericho versus Sting in his last match, and I was
35:09
worried about that. And I feel like this is a much more exciting match
35:15
and the Young Bucks are really going to make Sting look good and put on
35:21
a very fun competitive match, and I don't appreciate it. Do you see
35:25
any world where stak In, Darby Allen lose this match. No. I
35:30
think if it was against you know, Keno, Skate Takeshta and Kyle Fletcher,
35:35
then I could see them losing in the last match. But if it's
35:38
the Young but Young Bucks don't need to win. They're founders of the company.
35:43
They're one hundred time titled holders. They don't they don't need to win.
35:49
And yeah, there's no way that thing in Darby lose. Yeah,
35:54
you know, I'm looking at it. You know, I've got real excited
35:58
about this match, But then when I think about it, there's really not
36:01
anybody that I could think of to put against Darby Allen and Sting that I
36:06
would be excited about. No, I don't know. I don't know another
36:12
way to put it. I heard it suggested, you know, Sting versus
36:15
Darby Allen in the last match. There's no sense in making Darby Allen a
36:22
heel on his Sting's last match. No, and you watch Ding the last
36:30
maybe a few months or a few handful of matches that he's had recently.
36:35
He does there's not too much that he can do. He can do some
36:38
crazy jumps and stuff, but he's he's this he's in his sixties right,
36:45
like he's he's up there, he's sixty four. Yeah, but what do
36:47
you think do you think that the Philip and Francois are going to do something
36:52
like a face move too on this? Like I can't think of anything that
36:57
some people wouldn't like to see more than the Bucks put Rick Flair through a
37:01
table. I don't know Rick Flair wants to be put through a table.
37:09
He said that in a couple of interviews that I've listened to, So he
37:15
specifically says, I want to be put through a table. Well, who
37:16
better to put him at the table than the young Bucks. Yeah, I
37:22
don't think they would have any problem putting him through a table. I don't
37:24
know if he can survive being put through a table, but that's what he
37:30
wants. I just thought he was like, I don't know. If they
37:34
do something, they need to do it early in the match, have him
37:36
carried to the backs with that. The attention is on Sting through this match,
37:40
and I hope Sting has a really good match, and I hope the
37:45
fans enjoy it. And I kind of look forward to what happens after the
37:52
match with the Bucks probably you know, paying homage to Sting. Darby Allen's
37:59
probably gonna and uh, and then he'll cry and dive off the ring,
38:06
apron the steel steps and then and then Sting will just uh, you know,
38:12
standing able to ring for ten minutes, waving at the crowd and getting
38:15
all all sorts of love which he deserves. And that's that what you go
38:22
to questions for you about this? So do you think this match goes on
38:25
last? I do think it'll be the main event because the revolution is being
38:30
built around it. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty much a given.
38:35
Who would you want to who would want to follow that match? True?
38:38
Yeah, very true. And then the other thing I'm wondering is do
38:43
you think it's gonna be like a street fight? I know a lot of
38:45
strings things matches have been street fights or hardcore matches, So do you see
38:51
this being a traditional tag or something more hardcore? I think it's gonna be
38:58
Uh, you know what I'd like to say, I'd like to see a
39:01
lumberjack match because it would get We would have the opportunity for different wrestlers to
39:09
be around the ring and being able to kind of pay homage to Sting where
39:17
the fans could see it. Yeah. Do you think I think that'd be
39:21
cool? Like wrestlers from things past? Even like that would be a really
39:27
cool idea. That would really be a really cool idea. That's a really
39:31
neat idea, you know that is I've never even thought of that that's a
39:37
good idea. Yeah, I just I don't No, I'm not going to
39:42
say it's a good idea again because I said it about twenty times already,
39:45
and so yeah, sounds kind of dumb, but no, yeah, I
39:49
like it, like you know, Rick Flair, I guess. But but
39:52
also maybe some younger people who from TNA or w c W guys who are
40:00
still around. Yeah, well, everybody wants to see the disco inferno out
40:04
there, that's for sure. Love to get the paycheck, but thank God
40:10
to give it off bag well and uh, you know Lex Luger gets rolled
40:16
out sting lands in his lap. I don't know, yeah, yeah,
40:21
just some I know Lex Luger was the first one that popped into my mind.
40:24
But then it'd be kind of sad. I really I think that a
40:30
lumberjack match with I just came up with that. I wasn't even thinking about
40:32
it. I think that's my idea. That your idea about who should be
40:36
there, and we need to call Tony he tk. We have a heck
40:43
of an idea. How much how deep are your pockets these days? After
40:47
citing Mercedes Bonde, do you have anything left? Oh boy, let's move
40:54
on because this is a match that I this is kind of like Samoa and
40:59
Joe to me, and that is the Gates of Agaty at Bright Age against
41:02
Bullet Club Gold, which is Jay White and Austin and Colton Gunn for the
41:08
Ring of Honor six Man Tag Team Championship. This one kind of puts me
41:17
in between a rock and a hard place. There is no way that the
41:21
Gates of Agaty Brian Cage should ever beat Bull Club Gold, but the Bullet
41:25
Club Gold becomes the Ring of Honor six man Tag Team Championship champions Where do
41:34
you go from there? And it just doesn't make any sense to me.
41:37
This match is get another one that's got I have to put it in a
41:40
no contest zone and hopefully somebody comes out and attack the text Bullet Club Gold
41:45
and the Acclaim come out and save them, and now we have the birth
41:51
of the faction. Yeah. To me, this is leading to the Acclaimed
41:58
and Bullet Club Gold joining up. And what this is my prediction based on
42:05
this match, and I seem to usually be wrong, but my prediction is
42:08
that Bullet Club Gold wins. They take the ROH six Man Tag Team Championship
42:15
and then now they challenge the Acclaimed or the Acclaim challenge them to unify the
42:22
titles, because like the ROH World six Man Tag Team Championship, probably the
42:30
lowest rung of titles maybe the ROH Here Championship in AW. I don't think
42:36
there's a need for two prios titles in AW or ring of Honor, So
42:43
it would make sense to consolidate those bills belts and just just to only have
42:50
the AW Trios Championship. And it also lets Bullet Club Gold go to the
42:55
Acclaimed or vice versa and say, hey, the winner has to join our
43:00
stable. So Bullet Club Gold, if they beat the Acclaimed Acclaimed has to
43:06
join Bullet Club Gold, or if the Acclaimed beats Bullet Club Gold, Bullet
43:10
Club Gold has to join the Acclaimed. That's that's where I see this leading.
43:16
Yeah, you know I when you get we talk about the Trios Championship,
43:22
I'm just gonna keep saying this, and I'm gonna keep saying it.
43:24
I'm gonna keep saying until people just tell me to just shut up. A
43:30
W does not need a Trios Championship. They need to Trios Champion. I'm
43:36
talking about AW. I don't talk about a I don't talk about r O
43:38
H you know at all really, but they got these floating around too,
43:44
so it doesn't you you have to agree it makes sense to at least get
43:47
rid of one. If they were gonna get rid of one, you get
43:52
rid of the a W and leave it on leave it, leave it at
43:55
ring of honor and have them defended on ring of honor. Tv AW needs
44:00
a women's tag belt. They don't need a men's trios belt because it hasn't
44:07
been really any good. I mean, it's a good way to get wrestlers
44:15
out onto you know, when you have a trios match, you got six
44:22
wrestlers out there at once, sometimes more if you have more than two teams
44:25
out there. But the problem with it is that the belt doesn't mean as
44:30
much. I am going to go right out on the limit and say AW
44:35
has too many belts that don't mean much and they have to add. And
44:39
what I mean by that is, well, let's look at a battle of
44:45
the belts. And I don't know if you agree with me on this,
44:47
but Ricky starts a big bill er singles champions that have tag team belt.
44:54
There's singles wrestlers that have a tag team belt. They're not a good tag
44:59
team. They won that match, but did they really because the don Kallas
45:04
family helped them out on a couple of occasions to save them from losing that
45:08
match. They got soundly beaten and should have lost that match had it not
45:13
been for outside interference, which was really never explained. And I guess we'll
45:20
get to that. But the tag team belts right now are just total bunk.
45:24
The Trio's belts right now are total bunk. I might even go out
45:30
and say that they need to pay attention to more to belts when you look
45:37
at the belts that have been defended since World's End, all right, which
45:45
was what one with World that was it December thirtieth? Yep, yeah,
45:51
okay, okay, so we're now two and a half weeks ago. Ponies
46:00
Storm has done absolutely nothing with that woman's belt, absolutely nothing. I'm not
46:05
saying she's not a good champion, but I'm just saying she hasn't been booked
46:08
to do absolutely anything with that belt that should be. You know, I'm
46:15
saying, you've got the men's championship. Some old Joe's out there, you
46:21
know, and great, and I'm just gonna say this Tony Storm. I
46:24
love her character, but there's always so much you could do with it before
46:28
it gets repetitive and boring. And if you're only going out there and you
46:31
know, talking in black and white about Chid's tits and shoes, then it's
46:38
just gonna get boring. It's repetitive. Well, I think they got they
46:43
got big plans for Tony and I think she's been a good champion. And
46:46
I don't think when you're talking about too many belts, I don't think the
46:51
woman's belt is the problem. I feel like it. No, no,
46:53
no, no no. What I'm saying is that they're concentrating on the wrong
46:58
belts they should be concentrating. And I'm not saying in any way that Tony
47:02
Storm is not a good champion. As a matter of fact, Diana Parozzo
47:07
and Anna Jay are having a match on Dynamite tomorrow night, and Tony Storm
47:10
is going to be on commentary, So that'll be interesting and I hope there's
47:14
some kind of confrontation there and that'll be interesting. But you know, we
47:19
need to see the champions in matches. You know, look at you know,
47:25
Julia Hartz defended twice already, it had a tag match after a World's
47:32
End, you know, so the TBS belt is not you know, like
47:40
what are the top belts. Christian Cage with the TNT title has done a
47:45
lot with the TNT title. There's intrigue and interest behind it, you know.
47:50
And he's actually in a match tomorrow night with Dustin Rhodes, which is
47:57
another interesting match that I don't understand. I guess they're doing just to get
48:00
Dustin Rhodes out there, you know, in Charleston, uh, South Carolina.
48:06
So but other than that, I really don't understand why they're why they're
48:09
doing that match, because you know, there's gotta be other this Tomorrow night,
48:15
up and down the Line Hook and Samoa Joe. There's got to be
48:20
something else that happens. Yeah, Christian and I mean really Christian and Dustin
48:27
Road, something else has got to happen the Gates of Bagadine and Brian Cage
48:30
against Bull Club Gold. Something else has gotta happen. Beyonda Parazzo and Anna
48:34
Jay with Tony storm on on on commentary, something else has gotta happen.
48:40
Yeah, I think I look at that card for Tomorrow night and I see,
48:47
Yeah, I see a lot of story that needs to happen, and
48:52
it's probably gonna happen to fill in the gaps and kind of give us a
48:55
clear picture of where we're headed for either the next pay per viewer, the
49:00
next like Special Dynamite. Right now, I don't know, man, it's
49:08
it's something else. Let's let's make our spicy predictions for tomorrow night. Let's
49:15
get into that. I'll go first, and I really don't know where to
49:23
begin, but I guess my main spicy prediction will be that the acclaim that
49:30
Bullet Club Gold something's gonna happen between them because I just don't see the reason
49:35
why Bullet Club Gold would ever beat Gates of Bagatin and Brian Cage become Ring
49:38
of Honor Tag team champions or are six man tag champions, and because it
49:45
doesn't benefit Bull Club Gold at all, So there's got to be something else
49:50
that goes on. Maybe the Don Kallis family gets involved, Maybe something else
49:54
happens. I don't know, because Donald Kallis family seems to be getting involved
49:58
in a lot of people's business. So that's my prediction. I think that
50:02
something's gonna happen and Brian Cage leave that match with the titles. I absolutely
50:12
most people want think that Bull Club Gold is the better, more interesting team
50:19
and they should win. I just don't want Bull Club Gold to win the
50:22
Ring of Honor six man Tag Team Championship, and and uh and then it's
50:31
it's why. It's kind of like, you know, coming in second place
50:38
at the Old Hart Foundation, who cares? You know who came in second?
50:44
That's right, nobody knows who has a ruby. So and I'm just
50:52
saying I was like, who knows, you know, who cares? You
50:58
know, that's a you know, that's a whole the other thing you do
51:00
to go on the heart and you know, Willow wins and then it's like,
51:06
Okay, we'll see you next year kind of thing. That's not a
51:08
yeah. But anyway, so what's your spicy prediction for tomorrow night. I'm
51:15
gonna go I'm gonna say one hundred percent Bullet Club Gold wins the ro Oh
51:21
World Take Team one hundred percent. I'm gonna yeah, I will. I'm
51:27
betting everything on it if I yeah, if Vegas legalized wrestling betting, I
51:32
would put a substantial sum on Bullet Club Goal to win that. I just
51:37
think it only makes sense too. We're gonna have to start at gofund me
51:43
for everything that you're gonna lose tomorrow night. So well, we're definitely gonna
51:50
find out tomorrow night. I guess yeah, yeah, I'll put my money
51:54
my mouth is, but yeah, I'm pretty confident in that. Usually I'm
51:58
not so confident, but this one, it just it's the only thing that
52:01
makes sense and gets of Agany and Brian Cage. I'm just who cares well,
52:09
they aren't a long they've they've been there for a long time doing it.
52:14
I don't know, maybe maybe Lance Archer comes out and destroys, you
52:19
know, when the gates Vagany and Brian Cage come out to the rig,
52:22
maybe kates A Magani comes out, Brian Cage comes tumbling down, with Lance
52:27
Archer following closely behind him. I don't know, you know, I don't
52:30
know. I mean, I love I love Lance Archer. I just think
52:34
he's just he's just still convincing to me, you know, And I just
52:38
love watching the guy, you know, even if he does something stupid like
52:44
losing by count out the Orange Cassidy on a pay per view. I'll never
52:47
forgive Tony Khan for booking that Tony. Okay, but anyway, God,
52:57
that's still to this day that just ticks me off. I'm like, you've
52:59
got to be kidding me that poor Lance Archer. Pin him in the center
53:05
of the ring or something. Don't make him stand on the apron to get
53:07
counted out, My god, especially in the track record that the track record
53:13
that the U a W referees have had, you know, three blind mice
53:16
and all compassed one human being. Oh my gosh. Anyway, so so
53:24
you're you are betting the bank on Bulk Gold. Yeah, they can't lose
53:32
the match, and yeah, it's I'm gonna go out out of the live
53:38
and say that, go out of the limit and say that. I'm not
53:46
gonna say that there's gonna be no contest in this in this card to barn.
53:51
But what I ha to say is that this card with Samoa Jahook and
53:57
Bull Club Gold and Gates of Baga named Brian k and even like Anna Jay
54:02
and Gianna Parazzo, Uh, there are a lot of matches in this that
54:08
could could end in a draw or no contest and it would make perfect sense.
54:16
I mean, we get over under for for no contests tomorrow night zero.
54:22
I don't think there's gonna be any draws or no contest tomorrow night.
54:27
But look at the Hook and Samoa Joe said it was a twenty minute time
54:30
limit draw on that and they fought to a draw. That would be very
54:37
interesting. Yeah, I mean, you could have Samoa Joe absolutely beat the
54:43
actual crap out of Hook all twenty minutes but never get the pinner to submission
54:50
and it doesn't hurt Samoa Joan. It legitimizes Hook. So that is my
54:55
spicy prediction. I'm gonna make it official. I'm going to take since you
55:00
made a spicy prediction about Bullet Club Gold, I did too, but I'm
55:05
gonna changed my spicy prediction. I am going to My spicy prediction is that
55:08
Hook and Samoa Joe ends in a time limit draw. Is it? Is
55:17
it a twenty minute I don't know. If it's a twenty minute match,
55:22
it's gonna end in a draw. If it's a you know, with a
55:25
one hour time limit, no, because I don't think. I don't think.
55:30
I don't think either of those guys. Yeah, I guess we'll know
55:34
at the beginning of the match. If they do a twenty minute time time
55:37
limit I don't know fast rules and one other thing in uh in Bullet Club
55:46
Gold's favor. Apparently they're debuting a brand new song that is true. That's
55:52
exciting. Yeah, I wonder if it's gonna be Duran team Western theme.
56:02
Yeah, well it's bullet Club and he got the guns mm hmmm. You
56:07
know, and you've got that famous Australian Australian a Jay White, who's just
56:15
go with it. Yeah. I thought that was hysterical what he said.
56:21
No, he wasn't. They said he was from Britain. They said he
56:24
was from the u K. Yeah, and he's from the It was a
56:30
renakend. Piquett said, no, he's He's from New Zealand. And Jay
56:36
White's like, just just go with it, just go with it. Yeah,
56:38
that was that was really good. That was maybe the best moment of
56:43
j White we've gotten so far. Yeah, I mean it's I think it's
56:47
cool the way they're making uh Billy Austin called gun just to be idiots and
56:57
that's how they come across in Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, well we
57:04
will see. I mean it's going to be a pretty good show, although
57:10
it's going to be filled with chances for no contest and time women draws mm
57:15
hmm. I don't know, man, it's gonna be It's going to be
57:21
something, really, it will be something for sure. Well that's ignition for
57:30
tonight, Alex. Thanks for joining and it was a great discussion. I
57:36
hope you didn't offend anybody. It's nothing like you know, calling everybody six
57:43
scumbags at the beginning of a the beginning of a of a podcast and and
57:50
say, well, nobody is listening right now because we've already But you know
57:53
what, I'm proud of it. I own up to it. It had
57:57
to be said, it should have been said. Nobody should be acting like
58:00
that. No, no, shame on you all, same on you.
58:07
Shame, shame, shame. Boo boooooooo. I tell you what I've just
58:15
dumbfounded over here, I really am. I'm just so pissed off at everything
58:20
because this has got to stop. It's one thing not to like somebody because
58:25
they you just don't like their style, you don't like their wrestling, or
58:29
you think they can't wrestle, but not because of the way they look.
58:32
That has nothing to do with it. Swear to God, prothetic Boo boo,
58:40
You'll tell you what, jeez. Anyway, that's the show for tonight.
58:46
Thanks again Alex for for Alex. This is Kelson. Good night everybody,