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- 0:00Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? I hope your early Tuesday
- 0:03Speaker 1: morning is going swimmingly. We'll get to the militia here momentarily.
- 0:08Speaker 1: First let me uh gabby yah by yaba at you
- 0:10Speaker 1: for a little bit. So, man, there was a popular
- 0:18Speaker 1: opinion shared just a couple of days ago, and it
- 0:23Speaker 1: has aged very very poorly, very poorly. So if you
- 0:29Speaker 1: look at the NBA Finals heading into Game four, this
- 0:35Speaker 1: is on Friday night, heading in, the Pacers led two
- 0:38Speaker 1: to one, and there was a popular opinion shared going
- 0:43Speaker 1: into that night that hey, if the Pacers win this game,
- 0:49Speaker 1: they're gonna win a title. You're not gonna see OKAC
- 0:52Speaker 1: win three straight game. No, no, you're not gonna have Now.
- 0:55Speaker 1: It's not just Stevid A. Smith, but he was one
- 0:57Speaker 1: of them. He was one of them saying this. This
- 0:59Speaker 1: was before Game four on Friday night. It's what Stephen
- 1:01Speaker 1: A had to say on ESPN.
- 1:03Speaker 2: The Oklahoma City Thunder on the bridge of getting of
- 1:07Speaker 2: losing the finals. If the Indiana Pacers win the night,
- 1:10Speaker 2: they are winning the championship.
- 1:13Speaker 1: It's just that simple, Okay. If the Pacers won Game four,
- 1:17Speaker 1: they'd have a three to one lead, championship bound right now,
- 1:23Speaker 1: you could look at this technically say didn't technically say Okay, see,
- 1:28Speaker 1: no way they win three straight. That's basically what he's saying.
- 1:31Speaker 1: He says it flat out right here on first take.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I think if the Indiana Pacers went tonight, there's no
- 1:35Speaker 2: way on earth that we're going to look at the
- 1:37Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
- 1:39Speaker 2: team three straight.
- 1:41Speaker 1: No way on earth that OKC can beat the Pacers
- 1:46Speaker 1: in three straight. This is gonna throw Steven A under
- 1:49Speaker 1: the bus. I think Steve Knight does a great job,
- 1:53Speaker 1: but he was one of many saying these things. I
- 1:56Speaker 1: want to make it out like he was the only one.
- 1:57Speaker 1: He was one of many saying these things. And wow,
- 2:01Speaker 1: look at what's happened. After two games. The Oklahoma City
- 2:06Speaker 1: Thunder are one win away from winning three straight games. Like,
- 2:13Speaker 1: how funny is that?
- 2:14Speaker 3: Now?
- 2:15Speaker 1: I realize, I realize there is a difference there is
- 2:21Speaker 1: if you're down two games to one and you win
- 2:24Speaker 1: three straight games, that's one thing compared to if you're
- 2:27Speaker 1: down three games to one and you win three straight games.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Right Like, you're facing elimination every game once you're down
- 2:37Speaker 1: three to one, So it does differ. I don't want
- 2:39Speaker 1: to make it sound like there's no difference whatsoever. There
- 2:41Speaker 1: is a difference, but I mean, come on, it is
- 2:46Speaker 1: pretty freaking funny, is it not for everyone who's like,
- 2:50Speaker 1: no way, okay, see wins three three straight games, get
- 2:54Speaker 1: out of here, no chance. And now they might win
- 2:56Speaker 1: three straight games. That's pretty fun. If they do that,
- 3:01Speaker 1: two of those wins would be on the road. You
- 3:04Speaker 1: could argue this. You could argue this, being down two
- 3:10Speaker 1: to one and winning two of the next three on
- 3:15Speaker 1: the road is pretty impressive, pretty comparable to being down
- 3:23Speaker 1: three to one and winning two of the next three
- 3:27Speaker 1: at home. Right, There is an argument there. And okay, see,
- 3:31Speaker 1: if they do win three straight, they'll have one two
- 3:34Speaker 1: of three on the road. So it's just funny, man,
- 3:37Speaker 1: for anyone's like, oh, I mean, it's what was it like,
- 3:40Speaker 1: borderline impossible that okay, see wins three straight.
- 3:43Speaker 2: I think if the Indiana Pacers win tonight, there's no
- 3:45Speaker 2: way on Earth that we're going to look at the
- 3:46Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
- 3:49Speaker 2: team three straight.
- 3:50Speaker 1: No way on Earth, no way. And they're on the
- 3:56Speaker 1: verge of winning three straight. I just think that's funny.
- 3:59Speaker 1: That's funny right there. It is funny. And I'll tell
- 4:01Speaker 1: you what, man, What else is funny to me is
- 4:06Speaker 1: OKC was such a monstrous favorite to win the finals.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Before they started, they were I think it was at
- 4:16Speaker 1: the peak. I want to say around minus seven to
- 4:19Speaker 1: twenty five. I want to say it was around there,
- 4:22Speaker 1: meaning you would have to risk seven hundred and twenty
- 4:25Speaker 1: five dollars just to win one hundred dollars. That's how
- 4:29Speaker 1: big of a favorite OKC was. And you look at
- 4:34Speaker 1: how this series is played out and the last two
- 4:38Speaker 1: games for the Pacers. I look at it and I'm like, man,
- 4:42Speaker 1: the amount of missed opportunities that this team has had.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Go back to Game four on Friday Night. They've got
- 4:50Speaker 1: a ten point lead in the fourth quarter. They're the
- 4:54Speaker 1: team with all the momentum, the crowd is behind him.
- 4:58Speaker 1: OKC can't hit it three to save their lives. That game,
- 5:01Speaker 1: they ended up three for sixteen. They made three three pointers.
- 5:06Speaker 1: That's like some nineteen eighties type stuff. It's twenty twenty five.
- 5:11Speaker 1: They made three three pointers. That's it, Okay, see can't
- 5:16Speaker 1: buy a three crowds into it. The Pacers are the
- 5:19Speaker 1: team in the first three games that had outscored OKC
- 5:24Speaker 1: by twenty seven points in the fourth quarter. They're plus
- 5:27Speaker 1: twenty seven in the fourth quarter. Indiana is the team
- 5:30Speaker 1: that's been freaking money. They're winning these crazy games. They're
- 5:37Speaker 1: clutch in the fourth quarter, huge comebacks against the Bucks,
- 5:42Speaker 1: against the Knicks, against the Cavs, crazy stuff. And now
- 5:48Speaker 1: they've got a ten point lead and they can't close.
- 5:51Speaker 1: The deal just slipped away. And you had at the
- 5:56Speaker 1: end of that game Ben Matherin. My goodness, So game
- 6:00Speaker 1: three was the Ben Matheren game quote unquote, bench player
- 6:03Speaker 1: scored twenty seven points, went crazy. I would argue Game
- 6:06Speaker 1: four was also the Ben Matherin game that nearly is good.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Didn't reach double digit points and at the end just
- 6:15Speaker 1: unfreaking raveled. He missed three free throws and then he
- 6:21Speaker 1: committed two fouls before the ball was inbounded, which led
- 6:25Speaker 1: to two free points for ok See that's five points, right,
- 6:29Speaker 1: there's a five point swing with Matherin missing those free
- 6:33Speaker 1: throws and then committing silly files before the ball was inbounded.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Who knows what happens Vizza's free throws and doesn't commit
- 6:40Speaker 1: those files. It's a lot closer and Indiana might have
- 6:44Speaker 1: won that game if you were betting the game. That
- 6:48Speaker 1: is a freaking brutal beat. Oh my gosh. I did
- 6:51Speaker 1: not full disclosure, have either team on the spread in
- 6:55Speaker 1: game four, But my gosh, if you were on the
- 6:59Speaker 1: Pacers plus six and a half and they lose by
- 7:04Speaker 1: seven and Matherren misses three free throws and commits two
- 7:09Speaker 1: fouls before the ball is inbounded, leading to two points
- 7:13Speaker 1: for okay, see, Oh, that's as ugly as it gets.
- 7:18Speaker 1: That's just that's something you can't handicap for. You can't
- 7:20Speaker 1: account for something like that happening before the game. You're
- 7:23Speaker 1: breaking it down, You're like, okay, okay, see Indiana, bah
- 7:27Speaker 1: bah bah uh. You know, I think it's gonna come down.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It's gonna be close. And then Matherin's just gonna unravel
- 7:33Speaker 1: three missed free throw, it's gonna commit a couple of
- 7:35Speaker 1: stupid files before the ball's inbounded, cost them five points.
- 7:39Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, okay, see covers spread like some
- 7:42Speaker 1: of this stuff is just ridiculous. It really is. And
- 7:45Speaker 1: then you get to the missed opportunity. On Monday night,
- 7:50Speaker 1: the latest game, the Pacers are down by eighteen points.
- 7:56Speaker 1: They cut the deficit to two points. Being the studs
- 7:59Speaker 1: that in the fourth quarter there is coming back. I
- 8:02Speaker 1: call him the zombies of the sports world. They just
- 8:04Speaker 1: keep coming at you. You think they're dead, They're not dead.
- 8:08Speaker 1: They're still very much alive. They cut it to a
- 8:10Speaker 1: two point deficit, and then they allow an eighteen to
- 8:15Speaker 1: four run by OKC. And where I think the missed
- 8:19Speaker 1: opportunity occurred. Rick Carlile kept playing Tyrese Halliburton. He was
- 8:26Speaker 1: affected by this calf injury. He tweaked his calf in
- 8:29Speaker 1: the game. He didn't hit a shot from the floor
- 8:33Speaker 1: all night. He was zero for six from the field,
- 8:36Speaker 1: h four from three point range. He didn't hit a shot.
- 8:39Speaker 1: He scored four points, all from the free throw line.
- 8:43Speaker 1: And he's still played minutes, healthy minutes in the fourth quarter.
- 8:47Speaker 1: You gotta play TJ McConnell in that instance, have to.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And if you look back at how awful Tyrese Haliburton's
- 8:55Speaker 1: Game five performance was, he's the first player in NBA
- 9:01Speaker 1: Finals history to record the following zero field goals, zero steals,
- 9:08Speaker 1: zero blocks, three plus turnovers, three plus fouls, and thirty
- 9:12Speaker 1: plus minutes. He's the first player in NBA Finals history
- 9:18Speaker 1: to have a stat line that bad. And what makes
- 9:22Speaker 1: it even worse is that not only did Carlisle stick
- 9:26Speaker 1: with Halliburton, who just didn't have it tonight, he was
- 9:30Speaker 1: clearly affected by this calf injury. He's stuck with Halliburton
- 9:34Speaker 1: and didn't go with DJ McConnell, who had eighteen points
- 9:38Speaker 1: in twenty two minutes. And he's forcing Okay's defense to
- 9:44Speaker 1: collapse around him. He's breaking them down off the dribble,
- 9:48Speaker 1: he's scoring, he's dishing. It's leading to open shots, good looks,
- 9:53Speaker 1: and he's stuck with a guy who didn't hit a
- 9:56Speaker 1: shot from the field. That is a missed opportunity right there.
- 10:00Speaker 1: And I know you could sit here and be like, hey,
- 10:02Speaker 1: that's a second guess. Well, yeah, it's a second guess.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I say this. I think this is the rule of
- 10:08Speaker 1: second guessing. You can agree or disagree, but I think
- 10:10Speaker 1: this makes a lot of sense to me. The rule
- 10:14Speaker 1: of second guessing is you need to be first guessing,
- 10:19Speaker 1: meaning you need to question what a coach is doing
- 10:23Speaker 1: before you have access to the results. Okay, so in
- 10:28Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, when Halliburton is out there and TJ.
- 10:32Speaker 1: McConnell is not out there? Are you then saying why
- 10:35Speaker 1: is McConnell not out there? Why is there going with Halliburton?
- 10:38Speaker 1: You need to be saying that, in my opinion, to
- 10:41Speaker 1: then be second guessing, because it's easy after the fact,
- 10:45Speaker 1: once you know Halliburton has missed all of his shots,
- 10:48Speaker 1: to be like, hey, you should have played McConnell. I
- 10:50Speaker 1: think you should be saying that in thinking that while
- 10:54Speaker 1: the fourth quarter is playing out. You understand what I'm saying.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I think you need to be first guessing to then
- 11:01Speaker 1: be able to be second guessing. Otherwise, like everyone's an
- 11:05Speaker 1: expert head coach. You know, every armchair head coach is,
- 11:09Speaker 1: you know, the best head coach walking the earth. They
- 11:11Speaker 1: have access to the results and then can say what
- 11:13Speaker 1: you should have done. But I think it was so
- 11:17Speaker 1: in your face. You're obviously watching the game, like where
- 11:20Speaker 1: is McConnell, Why is Halliburton still out there? You're they're
- 11:25Speaker 1: talking about it, and it was a missed opportunity. I
- 11:29Speaker 1: know it's the hard decision. I know it is. Halliburton
- 11:33Speaker 1: is your guy. He's made the show go. He's hit
- 11:35Speaker 1: some monstrous shots in these playoffs, He's led these huge
- 11:40Speaker 1: comebacks and all of that sort of thing. But he
- 11:43Speaker 1: just didn't have it on Monday night. And there's nothing
- 11:46Speaker 1: wrong with going with the player. And TJ McConnell, who
- 11:49Speaker 1: did have it eighteen points in twenty two minutes. Haliburton
- 11:53Speaker 1: gave you four points in thirty plus minutes. It's night
- 11:57Speaker 1: and day. It's not even close staring at you in
- 12:00Speaker 1: the face. And although that's the tough decision, that was
- 12:05Speaker 1: the appropriate decision. And Carlisle missed it. He just flat
- 12:08Speaker 1: out missed it. And I've said it once, I'll say
- 12:12Speaker 1: it before it bears repeating. The popular phrase is you
- 12:17Speaker 1: dance with who brung you, and Haliburton has certainly brought
- 12:22Speaker 1: the Pacers to this point. But I would argue you
- 12:26Speaker 1: shouldn't dance with someone who's too injured to dance. That's
- 12:31Speaker 1: where it changes the formula here. If Haliburton is full go,
- 12:37Speaker 1: he's not hampered by this calf injury. He's as close
- 12:40Speaker 1: to one hundred percent as you can get at this
- 12:42Speaker 1: stage of the season. He's clearly not affected by any
- 12:45Speaker 1: injury at all. He's just having a rough night through
- 12:48Speaker 1: three quarters. I have no issue with you sticking with
- 12:50Speaker 1: that guy. He did bring you there? Dance with who
- 12:53Speaker 1: brung you? Fine, he's just been cold for three quarters. Okay,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but he's not affected by this half injury, that's one thing.
- 13:02Speaker 1: But he was affected by a calf injury. That changes
- 13:05Speaker 1: the math. So all of a sudden, this hey, dance
- 13:07Speaker 1: with who brung You?
- 13:08Speaker 3: No?
- 13:09Speaker 1: No, no, Like Haliburton can't get out there and even
- 13:12Speaker 1: do a two step on the dance floor, dance with
- 13:15Speaker 1: somebody else. It's time to dance with somebody else at
- 13:18Speaker 1: that point, and Carlisle just refused to do it. Now,
- 13:22Speaker 1: I think that's a absolute missed opportunity for the Pacers. Also,
- 13:27Speaker 1: the turnovers twenty three turnovers leading to thirty two OKAC points,
- 13:33Speaker 1: way way way too many turnovers, and Haliburton was one
- 13:37Speaker 1: of the guys guilty of that. You're right like that
- 13:40Speaker 1: key run eighteen to four run in the fourth quarter
- 13:44Speaker 1: for OKC OKASEE went from a two point lead with
- 13:49Speaker 1: eight thirty remaining to a sixteen point lead with five
- 13:53Speaker 1: minutes remaining. During that stretch, the Pacers had four consecutive turnovers.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Halliburton had two of them them, Hard had the other two.
- 14:04Speaker 1: What if that's TJ McConnell. What if McConnell isn't turning
- 14:09Speaker 1: it over the two times that Halliburton did. What if
- 14:13Speaker 1: beyond not turning it over, what if those are buckets
- 14:16Speaker 1: for the Pacers All of a sudden, you're cooking with
- 14:18Speaker 1: grease and you've got a chance to win a game
- 14:19Speaker 1: on the road, and if you do, you're one win
- 14:23Speaker 1: away from a title. There's an argument, not only should
- 14:28Speaker 1: you have played McConnell over Halliburton. If Halliburton's affected with
- 14:32Speaker 1: this calf injury, you gotta get him ready for Game six.
- 14:36Speaker 1: It's not just about Game five, it's about Game six
- 14:38Speaker 1: and the rest of the series. So I think it's
- 14:41Speaker 1: a double miss by Rick Carlyle. It's just a missed opportunity.
- 14:45Speaker 1: You can't have that. Can't have that when you're an
- 14:49Speaker 1: enormous underdog heading into the finals. But it's been missed
- 14:53Speaker 1: opportunities the last two games for the Pacers, playing Halliburton
- 14:56Speaker 1: too much when he's affected by the calf injury, the
- 14:59Speaker 1: Ben Madden, they're in catastrophe at the end of Game four,
- 15:03Speaker 1: and all of the turnovers in both games just way,
- 15:07Speaker 1: way too sloppy. I give okay, see a ton of credit.
- 15:10Speaker 1: They challenge every shot like you watch these games the Pacers.
- 15:15Speaker 1: They'll swing the ball and it looks like Nemhard might
- 15:17Speaker 1: have a three, and then Dort closes out on him,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and Nemhard's like, all right, I'll drive and kick and
- 15:22Speaker 1: he kicks to Sga and it leads to a fast break.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Like that's okase really forcing your hand. They do a
- 15:31Speaker 1: magnificent job of that. But at the same time, the
- 15:33Speaker 1: Pacers way way, way too sloppy. They said an NBA
- 15:38Speaker 1: Finals record the most turnovers in the half in Game one.
- 15:41Speaker 1: It's a game they still came back to win. They've
- 15:44Speaker 1: been way too careless with the ball. You can't win
- 15:46Speaker 1: games on the road when you're just turning it over
- 15:50Speaker 1: at that rate. Like, good luck winning for a second time. Okay,
- 15:54Speaker 1: they won Game one, dramatic comeback. Good luck winning the
- 15:58Speaker 1: second game on the road when you turn over twenty
- 16:00Speaker 1: three times. They it just wasn't even close as it
- 16:03Speaker 1: turned out. All right, feel free to check in. We'll
- 16:05Speaker 1: get to the militia here momentarily. I want to hear
- 16:09Speaker 1: from Blind Scott and beyond. Feel free to hit me
- 16:11Speaker 1: up on X if you would like. At the No
- 16:13Speaker 1: Show a couple of funny memes about the pole dancing
- 16:22Speaker 1: days of e Dog. So that was entertaining. Appreciate that.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Shout out to Milkman Mike, who provided the video or
- 16:33Speaker 1: the gift there of Yeah, some like Chippindale's Saturday Night
- 16:38Speaker 1: Live thing going on there with Chris Farley. Good stuff,
- 16:41Speaker 1: all right? Coming up next, this athlete says exactly what
- 16:45Speaker 1: a bad partner would say. Some details on the way
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- 17:02Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though in for
- 17:06Speaker 1: Big Ben Mallor. Let's go out to the militia, shall we?
- 17:09Speaker 5: Our?
- 17:09Speaker 1: Guy Blind Scott is with us here, Blind Scott, you're
- 17:13Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Bud?
- 17:16Speaker 4: Hey?
- 17:16Speaker 5: What's up?
- 17:16Speaker 3: Brian?
- 17:17Speaker 5: Yeah? Hey, that was a really good monologue. That was
- 17:19Speaker 5: some really good stuff. You ever played basketball before? A coach?
- 17:24Speaker 5: I'm thinking you might know the most. I'm on hold
- 17:27Speaker 5: like thirty five hours a week on the radio. I
- 17:30Speaker 5: think you might explain basketball the best. So like when
- 17:32Speaker 5: the Celtics got knocked out of the playoffs, I talked
- 17:35Speaker 5: to you and you were explaining the whole iso ball concept.
- 17:38Speaker 5: And I think the Celtics would beat the pay Series
- 17:42Speaker 5: even if they played him right now or Oklahoma if
- 17:44Speaker 5: Van Gundy was still there and Missoula had had adjusted.
- 17:48Speaker 5: He was just so stubborn and Drew Holiday didn't show
- 17:51Speaker 5: it at all.
- 17:52Speaker 6: You know.
- 17:52Speaker 5: I gotta say a couple of things about God Smack
- 17:55Speaker 5: too and Tool on.
- 17:56Speaker 1: There you go. First off, blind Scott, I appreciate the praise.
- 18:00Speaker 1: That's very nice of you. I appreciate that, man, But
- 18:02Speaker 1: what's on your Godsmack and Tool list? There? I'm curious
- 18:06Speaker 1: about this.
- 18:08Speaker 5: We'll go smirks from around here. But nope. So the
- 18:12Speaker 5: Zoomer generation calls Divorced Dad Rock. So the thing about
- 18:18Speaker 5: Tool is like they would never get the credit they
- 18:21Speaker 5: deserve because the.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Lead because they Sugar Scott, because they shouldn't.
- 18:25Speaker 5: That's suck, you know, they suck because the lead singer
- 18:28Speaker 5: to the jerks, the music just isn't that good, you know
- 18:31Speaker 5: what I mean?
- 18:32Speaker 1: Totally yeah, what what do he pass his way?
- 18:37Speaker 5: I like, Lord, here, On and Bonie Bear, and I
- 18:40Speaker 5: also like Olivia Rodrigo. I like Phoebe Bridgers. I like
- 18:47Speaker 5: some of the new music. Some I like electronic dance music.
- 18:53Speaker 5: I like, you know, I like stuff you would listen
- 18:55Speaker 5: to in the middle of the night, like when you.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Like do you like Duala Blak and Scott?
- 19:01Speaker 5: I think she like Gosh. I like her, Yeah, I
- 19:03Speaker 5: mean I'm into her. Yeah. Actually I'm a big fan.
- 19:06Speaker 5: I like it, you know, I like it how she
- 19:07Speaker 5: worked out. Yeah, she worked out a lot of the gym,
- 19:10Speaker 5: so I followed that right.
- 19:11Speaker 1: You know, she's a very tall woman. She's an incredibly
- 19:14Speaker 1: tall woman as it turned out. Last guy. Yeah, I
- 19:17Speaker 1: like tall.
- 19:18Speaker 5: I like tall women that are like six foot four
- 19:21Speaker 5: one ninety like triple d ize thirty eight eight inch waits.
- 19:25Speaker 1: You know, it's very descriptive right here, blind Scott, Yeah
- 19:29Speaker 1: it was. You rattled that off, you know, like, uh,
- 19:33Speaker 1: legitimately on the checklist there, I miss I.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Missed been a little bit, but I think you're I
- 19:37Speaker 5: think you like I hear Ben so much. It's great
- 19:40Speaker 5: to have a break, But I would you know this
- 19:42Speaker 5: rafeel devast thing.
- 19:43Speaker 1: It's so big.
- 19:44Speaker 5: It's such big news in Boston, like it's it's taken
- 19:47Speaker 5: on the whole scene. Like I hadn't talked to my
- 19:49Speaker 5: father in six years, and he called the show after
- 19:52Speaker 5: this man and me and him had it out on
- 19:54Speaker 5: the radio and like the Toucher and Hardy show, and
- 19:58Speaker 5: that was something that was something else, So like that
- 20:00Speaker 5: might happen to get today. So looking forward to that,
- 20:02Speaker 5: my mom's like, I just hope that he doesn't blame
- 20:05Speaker 5: me because you know whatever, Like I don't have to
- 20:09Speaker 5: go with the family drama or whatever. But you know me,
- 20:13Speaker 5: I was with my parents like five years ago and
- 20:16Speaker 5: they didn't mind. But they're like retired, but I stay
- 20:18Speaker 5: up on nine dude sports radio calls and yell and
- 20:21Speaker 5: scream and stuff, and me and my dad got into
- 20:22Speaker 5: like a fight. So I hadn't talked to him since.
- 20:24Speaker 5: So I just prefer to live on my own now.
- 20:27Speaker 1: You know, well, I'm court blind, Scott. I'll tell you
- 20:30Speaker 1: a Toucher. He was a nice dude. Like I used
- 20:33Speaker 1: to write for this website and I did an interview
- 20:36Speaker 1: with Toucher. He was cool with me, and he's a
- 20:38Speaker 1: he's a punk rock guy. He's got punk rock roots
- 20:41Speaker 1: over there.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Touch So yeah, I know all about that. Yeah, he
- 20:44Speaker 5: was a DJ at Atlanta at on ninety nine next
- 20:48Speaker 5: in Alantic, So he's gonna hear you talk. If you
- 20:51Speaker 5: talk towards the end of hour four, he's going to
- 20:54Speaker 5: be listening. I didn't realize you knew him, Brian. I
- 20:57Speaker 5: know him so well, like me and him are like
- 21:00Speaker 5: unbelievably close. I've known him for a long time. I
- 21:03Speaker 5: didn't know you knew him. I would. I would have
- 21:05Speaker 5: mentioned it, you know what I mean. He's really respectful
- 21:08Speaker 5: for people in radio. He would have you on now,
- 21:11Speaker 5: like if you email him, you know what I mean.
- 21:13Speaker 5: He's going on vacation for the rest of week. I
- 21:15Speaker 5: didn't know that. I would have emailed him. I'm just
- 21:17Speaker 5: as close to him as I am with Ben, even close,
- 21:21Speaker 5: even closer.
- 21:22Speaker 6: You know.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Yeah, Blind Scott, you know, would be my agent over
- 21:24Speaker 1: give me some reps, you know, give me on there
- 21:26Speaker 1: at the hub. What's going on?
- 21:28Speaker 5: I email? I emailed Fred like fifty times a day
- 21:31Speaker 5: for the past ten years. Like he almost would get
- 21:33Speaker 5: a restraining order if you didn't.
- 21:36Speaker 3: There you go.
- 21:36Speaker 1: I'll tell you Blind Scott before you go. Since you
- 21:39Speaker 1: like my descriptions, I appreciate that I'm going to give
- 21:41Speaker 1: you a description of the band Tool, and you tell
- 21:44Speaker 1: me if this is on point. Oh god, okay, all
- 21:47Speaker 1: right now Coop is waiting on the edge of his
- 21:49Speaker 1: seat with anticipation. Here here's the description of Tool. Tool
- 21:54Speaker 1: is a band where they'll play something cool to have,
- 21:59Speaker 1: like a cool guitar, par our, cool riff, and just
- 22:01Speaker 1: when they get going, they're like, oh, let's do something
- 22:05Speaker 1: boring for the next three minutes, and then we'll go
- 22:10Speaker 1: back to the cool stuff we were doing.
- 22:12Speaker 5: All right, cooler, Yeah, there there jerk. So I'm forty two,
- 22:17Speaker 5: so that's the music I grew up. So people we
- 22:19Speaker 5: said you're a tool if you listen to Tool. When
- 22:21Speaker 5: I was in high schooled to rough those people up
- 22:23Speaker 5: in the locker room.
- 22:24Speaker 1: At gym, you know there you go, you shove them
- 22:26Speaker 1: into a locker and say, listen to it.
- 22:29Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't cool to listen to Tool when I
- 22:31Speaker 5: was in high school, trust me, Like, you were not cool.
- 22:33Speaker 5: You weren't. You weren't like hanging with nobody like that.
- 22:37Speaker 5: You weren't. You were hanging by yourself a combat blutan,
- 22:39Speaker 5: you know.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, I hear you. All right, Well, Hey,
- 22:42Speaker 1: we appreciate you checking in Blind Scott. Good stuff. Man,
- 22:45Speaker 1: we're talking music, sports, you know, uh, local radio hosts.
- 22:51Speaker 1: We covered a lot of ground. We clearly set it
- 22:55Speaker 1: in stone. That tool is terrible, right man. This is
- 23:00Speaker 1: a segment that will probably not be appearing on the
- 23:03Speaker 1: podcast due to Coop you know, posting thing that stuff
- 23:07Speaker 1: right there. Stuff. Yeah right, he's like delete cutting room
- 23:12Speaker 1: floor right there. Now, this is something that has definitely
- 23:16Speaker 1: caught my attention. Is Rory McElroy. Okay, so our guy, Rory,
- 23:24Speaker 1: he is taking a weenie route, is what I would say.
- 23:29Speaker 1: He is dodging the media, which I think is just weak.
- 23:33Speaker 1: So this goes back to what we just saw at
- 23:36Speaker 1: the US Open, and also if you go backwards to
- 23:41Speaker 1: last month's PGA Championship. So here's the backstory. And this
- 23:47Speaker 1: isn't just a Rory McElroy thing. Maybe you don't care
- 23:49Speaker 1: about Rory, maybe you don't care about golf. That's fine,
- 23:52Speaker 1: But this to me is way bigger than that. This
- 23:55Speaker 1: is athletes speaking to the media, right, Like, do you
- 24:00Speaker 1: think that they should speak to the media. Now, the
- 24:04Speaker 1: PGA Tour does not require their golfers to speak to
- 24:08Speaker 1: the media, so you might remember this. It was a
- 24:11Speaker 1: couple of months ago where what was it, Colin Morikawa.
- 24:15Speaker 1: He came out and said, I don't think I need
- 24:17Speaker 1: to speak to you guys, and at that point Rory
- 24:20Speaker 1: McElroy backed him up and said he's right. And so Rory,
- 24:24Speaker 1: he's dodged the media. He dodged the media for six
- 24:28Speaker 1: straight rounds in majors. He didn't speak to the media
- 24:33Speaker 1: all throughout the PGA Championships. That was four straight days
- 24:37Speaker 1: no talking to the media, and he skipped out on
- 24:40Speaker 1: the media on the first two days of the US
- 24:43Speaker 1: Open this past weekend, right, So he didn't talk to
- 24:45Speaker 1: him Thursday, didn't talk to him Friday. He graced the
- 24:49Speaker 1: media with his presence and his words as only Lord
- 24:55Speaker 1: Rory McElroy can do. So he was asked about this
- 24:58Speaker 1: on Saturday one of the media members. He said, yeah,
- 25:02Speaker 1: you haven't met with the media after the last six
- 25:06Speaker 1: major rounds. Here, is it because you're frustrated on the
- 25:10Speaker 1: golf course, right, Like Rory has not been playing well,
- 25:13Speaker 1: and so the media guy was like, is it because
- 25:15Speaker 1: of the way you're playing. Here's what Rory said.
- 25:18Speaker 6: No, not really, it's more of frustration with you guys.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Okay, So he's ticked off at the media, frustrated with
- 25:25Speaker 1: the media. So either the same or a different media member,
- 25:29Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. The follow up question was in
- 25:33Speaker 1: what way, in what way are you ticked off at us?
- 25:38Speaker 1: Here's what Rory said.
- 25:39Speaker 4: I'm just.
- 25:42Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have been totally
- 25:44Speaker 6: available for the last few years, and I'm not saying
- 25:48Speaker 6: maybe not you guys, but maybe more just the.
- 25:51Speaker 1: The whole, the whole thing. Hmm. Okay, so the whole thing,
- 25:55Speaker 1: the whole you know, answering questions, talking, promoting the game
- 26:01Speaker 1: of golf. You know, Jesus over it. It's basically what
- 26:05Speaker 1: he just said. That's kind of over it. Maybe it's
- 26:07Speaker 1: not you. Maybe another think that I don't hate you directly,
- 26:12Speaker 1: maybe just this whole thing. Maybe that's okay. So there's
- 26:18Speaker 1: another question. Is this about the driver controversy? So the
- 26:23Speaker 1: driver controversy very shortly, this goes back to the PGA
- 26:28Speaker 1: Championship last month. He had a club that failed testing
- 26:34Speaker 1: and was removed from his bag. So maybe he didn't
- 26:37Speaker 1: like the coverage of that. He didn't like what was
- 26:40Speaker 1: said or written about that. So that's what is it.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Something about the driver controversy. Here's what Rory said, Yeah, part.
- 26:46Speaker 6: Of Yeah, I mean that was that was a part
- 26:48Speaker 6: of it. Yeah, that was that was that was a
- 26:53Speaker 6: part of it. But it's not as if Flake at Augusta,
- 26:56Speaker 6: I skipt you guys on Thursday. So yeah, again, it's
- 27:02Speaker 6: not as if it's not out of the ordinary. I've
- 27:04Speaker 6: done it before.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now this is the part let's take
- 27:09Speaker 1: a time out for a second. This is exactly what
- 27:14Speaker 1: a bad partner would say, right. He said it a
- 27:17Speaker 1: couple of times. He's like, I've been around pretty much
- 27:20Speaker 1: all the time the last two years, all the time,
- 27:23Speaker 1: whenever you want to talk, I talk to you guys.
- 27:25Speaker 1: And then he just said it right there, He's like,
- 27:27Speaker 1: I didn't skip out on Thursday at Augusta. It's like
- 27:33Speaker 1: if your partner says to you, my girlfriend says to me, like, hey,
- 27:37Speaker 1: you haven't taken the trash out for six straight weeks.
- 27:42Speaker 1: What's up with that? A bad partner would say, well,
- 27:46Speaker 1: what about seven weeks ago? Huh who took the trash out?
- 27:51Speaker 1: Then that's right, it was me. I was taking the
- 27:54Speaker 1: trash out seven weeks ago. It's like we're talking about
- 27:56Speaker 1: the last six weeks though, where you didn't do anything.
- 27:59Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about here. But Rory is like, well,
- 28:02Speaker 1: what about Augusta on Thursday? Yeah, I know I didn't
- 28:05Speaker 1: talk to you guys all throughout the PGA Championship, didn't
- 28:10Speaker 1: talk to you one time. I know I skipped out
- 28:13Speaker 1: on you the first two days here at the US Open.
- 28:16Speaker 1: But I'm talking to you now, am I not like that?
- 28:19Speaker 1: That's what a bad partner in a relationship says. They
- 28:22Speaker 1: don't admit anything they've done wrong, and they just shift
- 28:26Speaker 1: the focus to an area that they did do well
- 28:30Speaker 1: in and don't address their faults at all. That's what
- 28:34Speaker 1: a bad partner says. And that's exactly what Rory McElroy
- 28:37Speaker 1: just said. Now, there was another follow up question. The
- 28:43Speaker 1: reporter's like, hey, after really, and this is true, Rory
- 28:47Speaker 1: McElroy has really been front and center promoting the PGA Tour,
- 28:53Speaker 1: standing up for the PGA Tour, largely done a great job.
- 28:58Speaker 1: And the reporter was just like, are you kind of
- 29:00Speaker 1: just tired of that? Are you tired of doing that?
- 29:03Speaker 1: And that's why you want to dodge these questions? Do
- 29:05Speaker 1: you feel like you've earned the right to dodge these questions.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Here's what Rory said. I feel like I've earned the
- 29:10Speaker 1: right to do whatever I want to do. There it
- 29:13Speaker 1: is there. That's the money quote right there, that explains
- 29:17Speaker 1: everything right there. Yes, I feel like I can do
- 29:21Speaker 1: whatever that he's going Denzel in training day, I'm the
- 29:24Speaker 1: man of business piece is basically what Rory is saying.
- 29:27Speaker 1: And this is where it becomes weak and lame, like
- 29:33Speaker 1: whatever the reasons are and whatever the backstory is why
- 29:38Speaker 1: Rory is bent or doesn't want to deal with the
- 29:41Speaker 1: media or the end result is weak. Dodging questions is weak.
- 29:48Speaker 1: The truth is like, meeting with the media and answering
- 29:52Speaker 1: questions is good for the sport. It promotes the game,
- 29:55Speaker 1: It helps build drama for the next event or the
- 29:59Speaker 1: current event. Why do you think the media talks to players?
- 30:03Speaker 1: Why do you think players interviews and sound bites are
- 30:07Speaker 1: aired all the freaking time on radio on TV because
- 30:12Speaker 1: athletes from time to time say some interesting things and
- 30:16Speaker 1: it helps spruce up that current event or the next event.
- 30:21Speaker 1: So dodging those sessions might be great for Rory, but
- 30:25Speaker 1: it isn't great for the sport. That's the truth, And
- 30:29Speaker 1: you can try to argue against that and poke holes
- 30:31Speaker 1: in it and say, oh, but Brian, does it really
- 30:34Speaker 1: build drama? Is it really necessary? Blah blah blah. It's like, yeah,
- 30:40Speaker 1: athletes at times say some colorful things. They might call
- 30:43Speaker 1: out an opponent. They might say something like Rory has
- 30:46Speaker 1: said some very candid things about live golf, and you're like,
- 30:52Speaker 1: oh man, I can't wait to see what happens in
- 30:54Speaker 1: this next major based on what Rory just said. It
- 30:58Speaker 1: is back and forth with Bryson Shambo. Some of that
- 31:01Speaker 1: has really spruced up some of these matchups like oh man,
- 31:05Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the final pair together, like wow,
- 31:07Speaker 1: and here's the whole backstory. It helps promote the game
- 31:12Speaker 1: and it helps build drama. Some of my favorite drama
- 31:17Speaker 1: building moments like this is before the Super Bowl. I'll
- 31:21Speaker 1: never forget Shannon Sharp and Rab Buchanon. So Shannon Sharp
- 31:26Speaker 1: then at the Broncos, Ray Bucnon then of the Falcons'
- 31:29Speaker 1: is a portion of some of their back and forth
- 31:31Speaker 1: before the game. Here's Shannon Sharp.
- 31:32Speaker 3: I've never called anybody ugly. Do I think people ugly?
- 31:35Speaker 3: I think he lugged me, but I never fit that
- 31:38Speaker 3: he just did He started it.
- 31:42Speaker 1: That's gold right there by the way, late nineties audio
- 31:46Speaker 1: left a lot to be desired. Right in the background,
- 31:50Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a monsoon in the background. It's
- 31:52Speaker 1: just horrid nineties audio, but still great. Nevertheless, this is
- 31:57Speaker 1: Ray Buchanon and some of the critical things he said
- 32:00Speaker 1: about Shannon Sharp again top notch stuff.
- 32:02Speaker 3: He might have a body though, everybody laying hisybody to
- 32:05Speaker 3: be like ooh Shannon, But I'm telling you what, man,
- 32:07Speaker 3: you got a grill like that?
- 32:08Speaker 1: Man, I mean total reconstruction. Okay, now this is the
- 32:13Speaker 1: best one. This is Shannon Sharp again, colorful sound bites.
- 32:16Speaker 1: You're telling me you weren't more interested to watch Super
- 32:18Speaker 1: Bowl thirty three with the war of words between these guys.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Come on, this is why they do it. This is
- 32:25Speaker 1: why you interview athletes. This is Shannon Sharp again. To
- 32:29Speaker 1: drop the mike moment talking about Raebu Cannon.
- 32:31Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get into a p in content with
- 32:33Speaker 3: you lose every time, but I will say this all
- 32:36Speaker 3: Suddenly he get an opportunity tobacco.
- 32:38Speaker 1: What he's saying. If he my friend? No?
- 32:40Speaker 3: Did I ever view him as a friend?
- 32:41Speaker 1: No?
- 32:42Speaker 3: Did I have view him other than acquaintance. No, do
- 32:44Speaker 3: I like him?
- 32:45Speaker 1: No?
- 32:45Speaker 3: If I see him in a snowstorm, his trucket broke down,
- 32:48Speaker 3: mine is going perfectly.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Would I pick him up? No?
- 32:53Speaker 5: Rather than that.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Other than that, I could care left about raeby Cannon.
- 32:57Speaker 1: That's tremendous and he said it within there. It's like
- 32:59Speaker 1: he's got to check, has to back up his words
- 33:01Speaker 1: on Sunday. You're telling me you've never heard a SoundBite
- 33:05Speaker 1: from an athlete and been more interested to watch the
- 33:09Speaker 1: next event. That's a flat out lie if that's what
- 33:13Speaker 1: you say, Like, that's why these leagues and the PGA
- 33:18Speaker 1: two are, That's why they want their athletes to meet
- 33:21Speaker 1: with the media and say things because it helps promote
- 33:24Speaker 1: the sport and build drama for the next event or
- 33:26Speaker 1: the current event. That's something Rory just doesn't want to do.
- 33:29Speaker 1: And listen, I might feel the same way, but you
- 33:33Speaker 1: can't lose sight of the big picture. I can understand
- 33:35Speaker 1: an athlete having some ill will toward the media. Maybe
- 33:38Speaker 1: someone wrote something crazy or said something crazy, and you
- 33:42Speaker 1: just don't want to do it. Rory had he filed
- 33:44Speaker 1: for divorce, and then he was able to reconcile with
- 33:48Speaker 1: his wife, Erica, and there are a lot of people
- 33:50Speaker 1: that said a lot of things and wrote a lot
- 33:52Speaker 1: of things that Rory might not have liked. I might
- 33:55Speaker 1: feel the same exact way if I was in the
- 33:57Speaker 1: same position, But I would look at it and say,
- 34:03Speaker 1: even though this is good for me, I don't want
- 34:06Speaker 1: to deal with the media. It's bigger than that. It's
- 34:09Speaker 1: bigger than just some personal beef or bad blood. It's
- 34:13Speaker 1: about bringing more attention to the sport of golf. That's
- 34:17Speaker 1: the why why you even do these interviews in the
- 34:19Speaker 1: first place. And Rory's forgotten that. He's completely forgotten that,
- 34:25Speaker 1: and that's too bad. And I'll be honest with you.
- 34:27Speaker 1: If they had some sort of like post radio show
- 34:31Speaker 1: press conference, I wouldn't want to do it. I'd probably
- 34:35Speaker 1: want to skip it. But if it helped bring in
- 34:39Speaker 1: more listeners and it helped build the ratings, it'd be
- 34:44Speaker 1: a necessary evil. I would do it, even though I
- 34:47Speaker 1: didn't want to. If after the show it was just
- 34:50Speaker 1: like a postgame press conference, right like Rory finishes around
- 34:54Speaker 1: at the US Open and he's meeting with the media,
- 34:56Speaker 1: they might be like, hey man, why were you terrible
- 34:59Speaker 1: on the eleventh or whatever? If someone was like, you know,
- 35:02Speaker 1: it's a press conference, and they're like, all right, Brian
- 35:05Speaker 1: filling in for big Ben Maller, here your second segment,
- 35:08Speaker 1: Like wow, what went wrong? And I have to answer
- 35:11Speaker 1: those questions like, well, you know, honestly, I thought it
- 35:15Speaker 1: was a good topic. Maybe I had a weird example
- 35:18Speaker 1: or as a little wordy getting to the point, but
- 35:21Speaker 1: you know, I'm just talking it up to a learning experience, right.
- 35:25Speaker 1: If I had to do that after every show, yeah,
- 35:27Speaker 1: I'd probably dread it. But again, if it helped the
- 35:32Speaker 1: overall network, it helped the ratings, it built excitement from
- 35:38Speaker 1: time to time for the next show, you gotta do it.
- 35:41Speaker 1: It's bigger than just you. It's about who you're working for.
- 35:47Speaker 1: And Rory McElroy is working for the PGA Tour and
- 35:51Speaker 1: has just forgotten that the PGA Tour matters here in
- 35:57Speaker 1: this equation. He's forgotten that it's all about him. It's me, me, me,
- 36:01Speaker 1: me me. That's what Rory McElroy is doing. And it's weak,
- 36:03Speaker 1: it's lame, not a fan of it, and his reasons
- 36:07Speaker 1: are even worse than that. This is all you need
- 36:09Speaker 1: to know. I feel like I've earned the right to
- 36:11Speaker 1: do whatever I want to do. Yeah, yeah, that's uh,
- 36:14Speaker 1: that's telling right there, all right. Coming up next, we
- 36:18Speaker 1: bust out the Power ratings and I'll tell you what
- 36:22Speaker 1: these rankings they produced A curveball I didn't see coming
- 36:27Speaker 1: from one Justin Cooper has nothing to do with sports,
- 36:31Speaker 1: but I think you'll find it entertaining. We'll get to that.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Coming up. It is the Big Ben Malor Show. I'm
- 36:37Speaker 1: Brian no filling in for Big Ben here on Fox
- 36:39Speaker 1: Sports Radio.
- 36:40Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler
- 36:43Speaker 4: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
- 36:46Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian knowing for Big
- 36:49Speaker 1: Ben Maler. Man, I'll tell you one of the one
- 36:53Speaker 1: of the biggest missed opportunities in radio history. Right there,
- 36:59Speaker 1: I was doing what band is? This is this? Lorena?
- 37:05Speaker 1: I'm sorry?
- 37:05Speaker 7: What was that?
- 37:06Speaker 1: It's the Google Dolls, That's who it is.
- 37:08Speaker 5: I forgot what that is.
- 37:10Speaker 1: So I was doing my Goo Goo Dolls impression and
- 37:13Speaker 1: the mic wasn't hot yet. Man, So was that not
- 37:16Speaker 1: on point?
- 37:17Speaker 6: Or what I was?
- 37:19Speaker 1: So perfect? Should never do it again? Okay? So one
- 37:26Speaker 1: of the things I love about filling in for Big
- 37:28Speaker 1: Ben Meller working with Coop and working with the Lorena
- 37:31Speaker 1: and the random stuff that we talk about off the air,
- 37:36Speaker 1: and they were running to the with like the break
- 37:40Speaker 1: room on a scavenger hunt for pie, right, And so
- 37:46Speaker 1: of course that leads to a full blown discussion, and
- 37:49Speaker 1: I said, we might have to reveal our pie slash
- 37:53Speaker 1: cheesecake power rankings, you know, your top three flavors. And
- 37:58Speaker 1: I asked Coop, I was like, are you cool with
- 38:00Speaker 1: a pie slash cheesecake combination? There? Is it? Absolutely not,
- 38:06Speaker 1: no way. They're basically polar opposites. You cannot have a
- 38:10Speaker 1: hybrid of pie and cheesecake flavors. Is that not true?
- 38:14Speaker 1: They're Coop, I don't think that's what I said, as
- 38:17Speaker 1: I really am I embellishing or what did you say?
- 38:21Speaker 7: I just said that pie clears cheesecake, okay, made so
- 38:27Speaker 7: much better than cheesecake.
- 38:28Speaker 1: That's the main curve ball, right, I mean I suppose
- 38:32Speaker 1: you could. Cheesecake is so good, that's so delicious, so good. Yeah,
- 38:37Speaker 1: I didn't say that, it's not. I like chocolate cheesecake.
- 38:39Speaker 1: I like cherry cheesecake. I like strawberry cheesecake. I like
- 38:42Speaker 1: New York cheesecake. I like the kind because there's different textures.
- 38:45Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, yeah, there's different textures
- 38:48Speaker 1: of cheesecake. Not really, Why is it vastly superior in
- 38:54Speaker 1: your opinion?
- 38:55Speaker 7: Coop Lots of reasons you can. You can eat more
- 38:59Speaker 7: of it without feeling terrible. Uh, there's just a wider
- 39:04Speaker 7: variety of.
- 39:07Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I mean, I don't know.
- 39:10Speaker 7: Maybe now I guess I get as I get older,
- 39:13Speaker 7: maybe I can't tolerate it as well as I used to.
- 39:15Speaker 1: But all right, so you can eat more. What else?
- 39:19Speaker 1: The variety flavor? We got a lot of flavors of cheesecake, yes, but.
- 39:26Speaker 7: They're all like a cream like a cheese base like
- 39:32Speaker 7: pie has variety. You can have like apple like and caramel,
- 39:36Speaker 7: or you can have like key lime, tartcker crust though
- 39:41Speaker 1: Crust