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Jaguars Happy Hour | Final Review Ahead of Week 3 vs. Patriots · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September 24th.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jack Bar's Happy Hour. And now, a guy
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  Speaker 2: who believes the 11th commandment is affect the quarterback, Brian Sexton.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, you got that all wrong. No, you
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  Speaker 3: should be introducing Mark Duffner right now. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: whether you saw, Jeff Lagerman, our Jags AM this morning.
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  Speaker 3: But we've got a new segment.
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  Speaker 1: What do you got?
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  Speaker 3: It's Duff, right, ranting and raving as only a coach
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  Speaker 3: can and should.
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  Speaker 1: Now, wait a minute. I just don't get the impression
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  Speaker 1: that Duff can rant and rave. Oh, yeah, he can.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing it? When necessary. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We're hoping to get more. I'm kind of needling him
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to come out a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: But he made it.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to come out a little bit more. Don't
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  Speaker 1: come out too much, though.
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  Speaker 3: I want to find– I want to find– The video
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  Speaker 3: of Duff dressed as George Patton when Jack Del Rio
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  Speaker 3: put him in front of the team, fully suited up,
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  Speaker 3: ready to go. That video exists somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it does.
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  Speaker 3: Not on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: I think it got burned.
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  Speaker 2: I think it did, too. It's in the archives.
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  Speaker 3: I hope not. If we can find it, we will. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Duff does a segment, and he made a reference today
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  Speaker 3: to Moses coming down from the mountain with the 11th commandment.
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  Speaker 3: Thou shall affect the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one you've heard.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's one you've heard. Joe Fortunato, we owe you that one. Hey, gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: how are you?
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  Speaker 1: Good. I'm fantastic. You know what? Everybody's kind of interesting
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  Speaker 1: week in that one loss and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: everybody thinks the sky is falling. I got some questions
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  Speaker 1: this week. Like, one, our coach doesn't know how to
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  Speaker 1: call plays. What? He's predictable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, our kicker is, is not any good anymore. His, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's fallen by the wayside cause he had a miss
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  Speaker 1: and then he had a miss in the playoffs. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like, I was sitting there going, are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Can I make another, another reference? Uh, this one was
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  Speaker 3: you on Jags AM. And what I said was that
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars, and this probably applies to some of the
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  Speaker 3: fan base that you're talking about. Uh, the Jaguars hadn't
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  Speaker 3: lost a regular season game since last November 16th.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nine straight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. They were off and running and, I made the comparison.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of like a controlled burn this week.
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  Speaker 3: You're burning out the undergrowth. Some bad habits, some mistakes,
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  Speaker 3: the lack of details. Listen, he's got, it's called a
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  Speaker 3: drip torch, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's correct.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a drip torch. He's got a can of gasoline, basically.
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  Speaker 3: And he walks around his property lighting things on fire.
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  Speaker 3: Certain times of the year, all within the regulations, Georgia
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  Speaker 3: Department of Forestry, Do not call him. However, it does
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  Speaker 3: have its effect, which is you kind of clean out
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  Speaker 3: some of those things and you focus on the trees
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  Speaker 3: that you want to grow. Have I cast that in
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  Speaker 3: the right light?
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  Speaker 1: You have.
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  Speaker 3: So do you think that this week is sort of that?
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  Speaker 1: Could be, but you don't know. You know, you got
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  Speaker 1: to kind of see the results of what lies ahead.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason I bring it up was because last year,
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  Speaker 3: the Houston game was that.
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  Speaker 1: And looking back, yeah, absolutely. But I think when we
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  Speaker 1: got into the week after that Houston game, we weren't
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  Speaker 1: thinking that this is going to be one of those moments.
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  Speaker 1: We were thinking, and I can't say the word, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, is the word I'll use on this show.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, where is this team going? But I don't
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  Speaker 1: get the feeling after that game at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is they didn't play very well. Give Denver credit.
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  Speaker 1: They played their rear ends off and they had a
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  Speaker 1: fan base that was backing them in that game. that
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  Speaker 1: made it very difficult on the Jaguars' offense. And it
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  Speaker 1: played perfectly into the hands of their situation.
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  Speaker 3: Duff, let me set this up for you. So let
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  Speaker 3: me give big things, the big things that we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about on this show. The first one is response. By
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  Speaker 3: Here's Josh Hines-Allen answering the question in the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he was tired of hearing it too.
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  Speaker 1: How.
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  Speaker 3: Did your team respond on the practice field today?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, practice, we flew around today. You know, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of competitive reps out there, offense and defense. So I
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  Speaker 5: feel like we're responding well to the adversity that we've,
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  Speaker 5: you know, dealt with last week. But we moved on,
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  Speaker 5: and we're focused on the Patriots. And, you know, every
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  Speaker 5: day is an important day for us, and we're just
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  Speaker 5: looking forward to Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Lassie was asked– Back to Denver, someone said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We're not focused on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're moving on. Rebound. It's called rebound. You know, R & R.
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  Speaker 2: Respond and rebound.
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  Speaker 3: But how hard is it to get a team? Listen,
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  Speaker 3: it was a painful loss, I think you would say, right?
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  Speaker 3: Because the way that it ended in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: you let them come back and score.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like the way that it ended in that
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  Speaker 1: you had a drive there at the end, and you
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity at a big play, and you dropped
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  Speaker 1: the ball, and then.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Defensively you allow them to just eat the clock up.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the way you want to end a game.
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  Speaker 1: You want to end the game fighting, clawing, scratching, with
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  Speaker 1: one more opportunity there at the end, and then you'd
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  Speaker 1: like to have done something before that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they got rattled. I think they got
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  Speaker 2: rattled because up to that point, up to the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: we had control of that game. But a couple things happened.
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  Speaker 2: They kind of distracted us off the focus of finishing
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  Speaker 2: the game the right way, finishing at the standard that
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  Speaker 2: they've established here. And that's what got in our way.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of beat ourselves in that game. No disrespect
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  Speaker 2: for the great effort that Denver put forth, because they
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  Speaker 2: certainly did. But they got in our way.
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  Speaker 1: Going into that game, we were talking about in our
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  Speaker 1: broadcast before the game that, look, this had to be
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  Speaker 1: a game where you win the physical battle. And physical
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  Speaker 1: battles are typically in the trenches, okay? And the reality
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  Speaker 1: is that Denver Broncos won, okay? Their offensive line, I
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  Speaker 1: think I was looking at PFF grades, okay? and every
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  Speaker 1: one of their offensive linemen had a pass-blocking grade of
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  Speaker 1: like 90-plus, which is like unheard of, unheard of. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so they won the battle there up front against the Jaguars' defense.
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  Speaker 1: The pass rush was kind of nonexistent, and the coverage
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  Speaker 1: didn't help it out much either. You look at the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars offensively, they struggled to find a way to protect Trevor,
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor was constantly trying to figure out reacting and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. And you didn't really have a ground game
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  Speaker 1: that was dominant. It was effective, but it wasn't consistent
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  Speaker 1: and dominant enough in the game to take the pressure off.
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  Speaker 1: And those guys, when they had the Jaguars in a
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  Speaker 1: silent count situation, it wasn't just the front line guys
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  Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos. It was also the second teamers
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  Speaker 1: were just as effective. And the Jaguars took turns messing
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  Speaker 1: up or getting beat i think is the proper way
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  Speaker 1: to say.
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  Speaker 3: It and still in the fourth quarter if you catch
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  Speaker 3: that ball not you number seven catches that ball you
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  Speaker 3: got a chance first and ten at the 24 yard
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  Speaker 3: line to tie the ball game up you still you
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  Speaker 3: didn't play well at all i don't say at all
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  Speaker 3: that's not fair but you didn't play well in key
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  Speaker 3: areas you didn't play well on the offensive line you
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  Speaker 3: didn't play well on the defensive line Well.
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  Speaker 1: There was one exception on the defensive line that I
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  Speaker 1: want to point out there because Devon Hamilton's playing at
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  Speaker 1: a high level. But stopping the run really wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: issue with the Denver Broncos. It was containing Bo Nix
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  Speaker 1: and finding a way to affect Bo Nix. And Devon
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton's a first and second down guy for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: and that's it. He was dominant in that game. And
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  Speaker 1: from all the film that I have watched, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not the entire league, but he's playing as good as
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  Speaker 1: any nose tackle in the league right now, by far.
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  Speaker 2: Consistent. Big time consistent. And by the way, let me
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  Speaker 2: just bring up again, a terrific goal line stand at
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  Speaker 2: our defense, especially the front did in that ball game.
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  Speaker 2: First and goal in the one yard line, three cracks
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  Speaker 2: and you lose yards. Are you kidding me? Again, so
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  Speaker 2: consistently winning the line of scrimmage. That's why it was
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  Speaker 2: one of our keys going into this game against New England.
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  Speaker 2: You got to do it.
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  Speaker 1: There was one play on the goal line. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I'm Doing some self-promoting here? Not really self-promoting.
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  Speaker 1: It's promoting the film room.
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  Speaker 3: Shameless self-promotion plays here.
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  Speaker 1: I showed the play that Devon Hamilton was involved in
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  Speaker 1: on the goal line. And Quinn Miners is one of
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  Speaker 1: the best guards in football.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a big fan of his for a number
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  Speaker 1: of years now. And Devon takes Quinn Miners into the
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  Speaker 1: backfield about four yards deep. And on the way, Devon
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  Speaker 1: takes out the center. And then Foye has a completely
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  Speaker 1: downhill run at the running back, and that was the
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  Speaker 1: one that the running back broke a couple tackles and
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  Speaker 1: bounced to the outside and then eventually gets tackled. That
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  Speaker 1: was the play, and Devon was just spectacular against a
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  Speaker 1: guy who is a two-time All-Pro guard who is one
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  Speaker 1: of the strongest guards in all of football. Tremendous play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, that's what dominating the line of scrimmage looks like,
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  Speaker 2: winning the line of scrimmage looks like, for sure. Well
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  Speaker 2: done by him.
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  Speaker 3: So you were both out on the practice field today.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like a good day, right? I mean, without
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  Speaker 3: giving anything away, it seemed like there was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of energy out there.
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  Speaker 2: It was good activity, good energy, good focus, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Because you have to because you know what's coming in here.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the funny thing, though, because Liam alluded to this
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And as a coach, the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that you kind of always fall back on, and, Duff,
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  Speaker 1: you could comment to this, you always fall back on
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  Speaker 1: let's focus on preparation and make it consistent. But Duff,
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  Speaker 1: how many years in the.
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  Speaker 2: NFL as a head coach or as a coach?
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  Speaker 3: 28.
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  Speaker 1: 28 years, okay. In 28 years, have you ever been
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  Speaker 1: able to get a beat on a team's performance the
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  Speaker 1: coming Sunday based on practice during the week? No.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you can just as far as like– but there's
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you just sit there and you watch practice. They
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  Speaker 1: might have– you might have the best practice week ever.
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  Speaker 1: in all of sports been there and done that and
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  Speaker 1: come out and have a game on Sunday and you
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  Speaker 1: go what was that so it's you know even though
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  Speaker 1: if the team has a great practice today like Thursday
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  Speaker 1: You've still got to perform on game day.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and we had heard that the coach had said
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  Speaker 3: earlier in the week he wanted more consistency. He wanted
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  Speaker 3: a better practice on Thursday. And so they get it.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason I bring it up is because you've
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  Speaker 3: got the Patriots coming in here. You saw what the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots did to the Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I saw it big time. They manhandled the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen a Steelers offensive line get pushed around
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  Speaker 3: like that one did last week. You watched the tape.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see?
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots are good at all three levels. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say all three levels, defensive line, linebackers, and then
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  Speaker 1: the back end. The two inside linebackers had, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: spectacular days against the Steelers. But the guys up front
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  Speaker 1: are winning. And the back end of the New England
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  Speaker 1: Patriots is what I think is the really special aspect
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  Speaker 1: of that defense. And it starts with Gonzalez, who is
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  Speaker 1: one of the elite corners in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: They travel them. And then the amazing thing is that
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  Speaker 1: they travel him and play different looks. They don't just
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  Speaker 1: travel him when they're playing man because it makes them
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  Speaker 1: predictable if he's not traveling and they're playing zone. Then
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  Speaker 1: coaches kind of can figure out, okay, well, hey, they're
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  Speaker 1: in zone now because he's not traveling, so let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: And he lines up anywhere, Gonzalez does, and that makes
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  Speaker 1: it very difficult on offensive coordinators because it makes them unpredictable.
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  Speaker 2: You talk about stingy play now in both ball games now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, his play against the targets of the receivers
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  Speaker 2: he's covering have been unbelievable. I think they're averaging like
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  Speaker 2: 1.8 a target. I mean, so he is, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about a shutdown corner, he's demonstrating that. And I'll reflect
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  Speaker 2: on that defensive front now. That Bear Moore and Williams,
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  Speaker 2: Milton Williams, who I loved when he was coming out, shoot,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, they manhandled Pittsburgh to a point where, again,
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  Speaker 2: they had one explosive play in the game, and that
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  Speaker 2: was in the fourth quarter. Aaron Rodgers was running for
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  Speaker 2: his life. People, they looked disheveled and mixed up as
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  Speaker 2: far as Pittsburgh's offense was concerned. So, I mean, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is a group that's going to pressure you, that
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  Speaker 2: plays physical and tackles well.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to set it up. We'll talk a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about offense coming up shortly. Christian Gonzalez is likely
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  Speaker 3: to travel with Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to make it interesting because we've been talking
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  Speaker 3: all week about diversifying the offense and getting it to
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  Speaker 3: other people. Hold that thought. I want to save that
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit down the road. Because we've got
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  Speaker 3: a reaction from Trevor Lawrence on that deal. But just
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  Speaker 3: one more thing. From a defensive perspective, Ventrell Williams continues
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  Speaker 3: to amaze me with his athleticism. I mean, he leapt
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  Speaker 3: a defender. Ventrell Miller. I'm sorry. I said Williams. I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking Milton Williams. Ventrell Miller continues to play at
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  Speaker 3: an incredibly high level.
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  Speaker 1: What I like about him still, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: stand by this, is how physical he plays the game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, last week it was kind of interesting how
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  Speaker 1: they had a linebacker rotation overall. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. But Ventrell has been playing very well.
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  Speaker 1: I think he had another seven tackles in the game.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have a lot of the other ancillary stats,
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  Speaker 1: cause fumble, recovered fumble, interception, or sacks that he had
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  Speaker 1: the first week. But extremely consistent. They did a good
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  Speaker 1: job for the most part against their running game, and
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  Speaker 1: Ventrell was a big part of that. And Branson Combs
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  Speaker 1: got some opportunities as the only linebacker on the field
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  Speaker 1: to And at some points, he was like the dime linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a dime linebacker. Dovetailing Miller, though, I
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  Speaker 2: tell you, he plays fast. And he plays fast because
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  Speaker 2: he's confident. He prepares well. Again, you see this guy
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  Speaker 2: fitting off the front, showing physicality, getting off a box.
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  Speaker 2: He hunts the ball. And I love that guy, the
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  Speaker 2: way he plays.
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  Speaker 3: He impacts the play, whether he makes it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Just because he's so physical. I mean, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Devon in that, hey, look, he's going to eat
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  Speaker 1: up two or three guys. and make it easier for
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  Speaker 1: other people and Ventrell's so physical the way he plays
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  Speaker 1: and that he impacts the game in other ways just
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  Speaker 1: besides making tackles, et cetera, because he is so physical
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  Speaker 1: and attacking.
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  Speaker 2: He hunts the ball and stays on his feet. Same
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  Speaker 2: thing like he did in the very first game against Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he leapt over the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. And I hope it keeps up. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's a long season. And it's two games in, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give ourselves a speeding ticket here
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  Speaker 1: thinking that he's going to go to the Pro Bowl
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. But we like what we've seen
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  Speaker 1: so far.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard not to like it. Jaguars hosting the AFC
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  Speaker 3: champion New England Patriots Sunday 1 o'clock kickoff. And the
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  Speaker 3: presenting sponsor for that ball game is UF Health. the
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  Speaker 3: official healthcare partner of the Jaguars. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Brian, Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: and Mark with you. And when we come back, we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk a little bit more about the pass rush and
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  Speaker 3: maybe some interior rush, what the Jaguars can expect from
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  Speaker 3: their big guys this week. All that and more here
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  Speaker 3: on 1010XL92. 5 at Jaguars.com. Welcome back. Jags Happy Hour brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by GEHA. In particular, our defensive conversation. Government
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  Speaker 3: Employees Health Association. Brian Sexton, pleased to be sitting with
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Lagerman and Mark Duffner on this Thursday evening. In
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  Speaker 3: comes Drake May, who led the Patriots on their march
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  Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl last year and played really well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's had some turnovers recently, but played well
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  Speaker 3: last season in his second year, right? Ostensibly to get
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: them to where they wanted to go.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. He led the NFL in person. Completion
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: percentage was 72%, and last year was runner-up for MVP.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Really good player.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Heck of a season.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Really good player. He comes in this week, and he's
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: without A.J. Brown, who was the big target that they
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: went and got for him this year. And so on Sunday,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: he's got the two running backs and Hunter Henry and
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, have I encapsulated it? So what's your approach
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: to this guy? How do you play Drake May? We've
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: seen him once. We saw him two years ago, his
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: rookie year at Wembley Stadium.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I think first and foremost, because he is struggling, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: what Duff referred to as a great starting point, 72%
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: completion last year. He's right around 61, so he's 11
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: percentage points off of where he was at last year.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: He's thrown, I think it's like eight interceptions since the
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: conclusion of the regular season last year. So playoffs, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: then the first two games this year, he's thrown four.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: All four of them this year have been down the field.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And so, look, if you have a quarterback who is struggling,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: then the best thing to do is to put more
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: pressure on them, and that's taking away a ground game,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: which he's got two good backs, got an offensive line
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit in transition because Owen, who is
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: their starting right guard, had a fractured, dislocated ankle in
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: this past game, and so they had a guy come
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: in in his place, and to be perfectly honest with you,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: he's not very good. And so if you can eliminate
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: their running game, put a lot of pressure on him,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be very hard for him to all
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: of a sudden bounce back to 72% and be an
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: absolute stud quarterback.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: So the two running backs here, Travion Henderson, right?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: He had the 39-yard touchdown run right up the gut.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Speedy home run player.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: And Ramond A. Stevenson, who is sort of their every
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: down big guy.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Kind of a tackle-to-tackle type guy, but also hard running
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: back for sure. Has had trouble holding on to the ball.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That's his Achilles heel right now. We've got to get
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the ball off this guy. But both of these guys
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: present a one-two punch that's pretty damn good.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Have a lot of confidence in the Jags' run defense. Well,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I do.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I do too, especially in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: this game. And the one thing, though, that you've got
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to be able to do is try to keep Drake
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: May in the pocket.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Because he's not like Bo Nix. They're different. Bo Nix
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: likes to kind of escape and run. To throw the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: ball and just to move and maybe extend the play
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit where when Drake May runs, he's going
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to run, like run, run down the field. So you
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: got to keep him in the pocket. And then the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Jaguars pass rush has to be better. And when you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: have a big guy like that that can run, the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: best pressure can be from up in the middle.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: So let's talk a little bit more about that. Let's
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: hear from the head coach. Liam Cohen talked about the
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: pass rush earlier this week.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: You're constantly evaluating your matchups, where you feel good, when
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: you need to. We brought some last week. They identified
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: them and kind of flipped the protection on us a
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: few times. When you're on the road in that atmosphere,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: they got the clock on their side and they got
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: the communication on their side and they freeze it, see it,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: flip it, and now they're picking you up and now
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: you're susceptible on the back end.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: So, if I can be pointed out, I believe that
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: there is one guy who could improve the Jaguars' interior
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: pass rush today.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Armstead.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're smiling because.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: We all know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It's Eric Armstead.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: He hasn't played very well.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Where was he? Listen, in training camp, even you, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: you have long looked at him through a specific lens.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You can't sugarcoat it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, through a specific lens. You even said he seems
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: unblockable right now. That was training camp.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: He's very blockable the first two weeks of the season.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: He was unblockable and... I've been playing for two games,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but you wouldn't know it. And I'm not trying to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: be mean. And here's a fact. I'll give you a fact. PFF, which, again,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: PFF is good for some things. Sometimes it's not good
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: for other things. And you can do whatever you want
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: with this number. He's the lowest-rated Jaguar player on the roster.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Talking about a guy that didn't practice a lot and
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: obviously didn't play in the preseason games. But when he
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: was out there, duff you saw it too no i
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: saw it's like okay wait a second if 91 comes
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: to play like this on sunday afternoons this pass rush
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: is going to do everything they wanted to do and.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Then some yeah there's no doubt about that we got
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to have it as far as that's concerned and this
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: week sets up good because of jeff jeff already mentioned
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and starting new right guard a veteran guy van rott
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: i think it is who's about as old as me,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: but 36 years old. And, you know, he's coming in
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to kind of help shore it up a little bit.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: But I'll be honest. When we found out that Austin Barber,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: the rookie, the kid from University of Christian here who
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: played in Florida, was going to go into the game
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: for Cleveland on opening day, I thought, well, there you go.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Put Armstead over there. Now, Barber's a good player, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: he's been playing well for them. But I would have
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: thought we would have called Armstead's name a little bit.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: We would have felt his presence a little bit.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I think he's had one tap. And so the guard.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: That's not feeling his presence.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: The guard, Duff, is Van Roten.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Van Roten, yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Okay. And so he actually had a worse PFF grade
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: than Armstead so far in the season. So, I mean,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I feel good about that matchup. But, I mean, he's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: got to do more. And, again, if he plays like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he did in the preseason, and I'm not talking about
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in the games because he didn't play in the games.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: The joint practices.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: The joint practices. Oh, he wore them out.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: He was a beast. He was actually unblockable, really. I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: he and Josh Hines Allen in particular, to me, stood out.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in the front as guys that were just dominant in
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: those practices.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: How does that conversation go? I mean, somebody's got to
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: go and have a conversation with him and go, where
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: are we here?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a veteran guy. I don't think that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: conversation needs to be had. I mean, I think it's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: pretty obvious that he's got to play better. And, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the film doesn't lie. Everybody watches it. And I expect
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: him to play at a much higher level this week.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And they need him. Big time. I think it gets
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to the point where, okay, now all of a sudden,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it's like Brian Thomas Jr.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: okay?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: If you have a couple drops, then at some point
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you start to take snaps away from that person if
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the productivity is not there. That's called accountability. And that's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the one thing that I appreciate about the leadership here
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in the organization is that, and I don't know what
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: they're going to do. I don't. But what I'm just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: saying is that in the past, if something hasn't been
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: up to what is considered par, then there's change that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: going to be made or reps going to other people.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: They wanted to address the interior pass rush in the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: draft in free agency. It just wasn't there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Well, they did. I mean, look, you drafted Regis. You
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: made the trade with Mason Smith for a row, row, row. Right.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: But are those guys that are capable of coming in?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: If Eric doesn't provide what you want him to provide,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: is there the option on this roster to find someone that–
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: If it's here now, they can do it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's an answer, but,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you start trying to see if it can
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: make a difference somewhere else.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Right, and those two guys are the two leading ladies
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: right now. I mean, again, Roro showed up to me.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I saw some flash of him in terms of internal
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: rush in the preseason. And, again, with his length and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: everything else, I like.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: The– And Cohen said this week that he had a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: couple of good pass rushes.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I like what I think he brings, but now
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he's got to get an opportunity, and let's take advantage
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of it. Because– That door's open.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Play person here, right? Coach there. What would Eric's presence
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: do for 41 and 44? I mean, look on your face.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the guy that I saw in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the preseason was fantastic, and I hope we see that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: because he can be a difference maker. I mean, he's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: got traits that you just can't coach.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: The length. The length, the power. He's got the experience.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But it's just.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He's got the lean, too. I mean, he's got a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: lot of that stuff.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: He's got to show it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: He had five sacks last year. Five.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And he was dinged up at the end of the year.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, most of those came when
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: he wasn't completely healthy.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: No.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: But he was out there giving it to you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. When you think about him and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Trayvon inside and Josh and the overload and whether it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Gardick or whoever else out on the edge, geez, you
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: like the look of that right now if you're the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: defensive coach and defensive coordinator. But again... Looks are one thing,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: actions are the other.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And Josh didn't have a great game last week. Right.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You know, look, he's going against arguably the best pass
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: protector in the NFL. Garrett Bowles has consistently been kind
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of wild in that when Garrett Bowles first got drafted,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he struggled for a while.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I recall that.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And then he found great success. And I don't remember,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: there's a number of snaps that he has gone in
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Without giving up a pressure or a sack. And I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: think it's like 680-something snaps.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: In this league. And what's crazy is that he actually
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: has like three different streaks like that. That are in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the record books in most recent history.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Well, and to do that to Josh, who he doesn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: necessarily mount the sacks and pile those up, but he
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: does get pressures. He didn't get anything last week. He
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: was tied last year with 90 pressures, tied with Myles Garrett.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, this is a guy who racks up
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the pressures.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Garibald's a good football player.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not one last week, which was like, really? That
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: was a tough matchup for Josh. You scratched your head
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: on that one.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: It was a tough day for us up front as
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: far as that's concerned. I think three pressures in the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: whole game, no sacks. So, I mean, again.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: How'd Trayvon do?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: He had a hit in the fourth quarter, which was
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: a plus. But, again, we've got to get way more
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: than that. I mean, you've got to affect the quarterback there.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, too. Back end's got to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: be better. I mean, look at the completion percentage of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks on this football team. Look at the passer rating.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It depends on how you classify an explosive play. I
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: was taught that it's a 12-yard run or a 16-yard pass.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And by my count.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Everybody has different. Sometimes some people say 10 and 15,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: some 12, 16, some 15, 20. Well, TC's was 12
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and 16, so that's what I go with.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: But I had between 12 and 16. I had them at,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I think, 11.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uncharacteristic for this defense. I mean, we talked all
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: preseason about sticky coverage and rushing coverage working together, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it just didn't gel in this past game. It's one game.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: We get an opportunity, and we're going to need it
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: this week against the Patriots.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: That's the beauty is that you get to line up
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and play another one.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: After a game like that when you're in the locker room,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you're ready. And as a coach, you're like, can we
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: line up now?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: No, you can't wait. Are you kidding?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You can't wait.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Sonny can't get here fast enough.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Just tease ahead. When we get to– Our player segment,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Players to Watch, brought to you by Mr. Chubby's Wings.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about one of those guys in
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the secondary. Do we get wings for that, too? I
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: don't see any here. I don't see any here. But listen,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: it's a negotiation, Jeff. And my sense is that if
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you deliver a quality enough answer, you win the negotiation.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not above begging.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: All right, listen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I'll take some on Thursday.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: You drive by. Maybe they'll be waiting for you as
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you go by on your way home. All right, this
• 26:49
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• 26:55
  Speaker 3: as well as everything else that we do here at
• 26:58
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• 27:01
  Speaker 3: our attention to offense and the story this week about
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: getting number three and number 85 involved. That on the
• 27:09
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• 27:19
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• 27:22
  Speaker 3: media channels. Brian, Jeff, and Coach Mark Duffner with you.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Time now for the UF Health Injury Report brought to
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you every Thursday in this space by UF Health, the
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: official healthcare partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Looking at the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Jaguars today, really exciting. nothing to report. A lot of
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: limited participation guys, which is not uncommon. LaQuinta Allen Jr.,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Robert Hainsey, Devon Hamilton, Jacoby Myers, Cole Van Lannen, all
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: limited in practice, which happens. One did not participate, Branson Combs,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and it's listed as not injury-related, a personal matter. For
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the Patriots, a couple of guys of note, Draymond Jones,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: outside linebacker, Shoulder has not practiced yet this week. Wednesday
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and Thursday, he's out of both of those. Eli Rairdon,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the backup tight end, limited yesterday, did not practice today.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: And Craig Woodson, starting safety for them, did not participate
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: yesterday and did not participate today. Shoulder.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: That's the one I think that it's going to be
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: interesting to watch. The back end is, again, a strength
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of the Patriots in any kind of chink in the armor,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so to speak, would help.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've had– they had not only is Woodson
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: having issues as far as his shoulder, but Pettis, the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: other safety, starting safety, is out with an ankle. He's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: out for the game.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And I think– And IR. Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: He's on IR now.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the tight end, you talked about,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: number 82, I think it's Rairdon, he has a thigh issue.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's acted up. Who knows?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: How about Bayard?
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Is, you know– Long-time Tennessee Titan.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Long-time.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Straight out of Chicago.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Played there with Vrabel, right? And Vrabel brings him back.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Last year, led the league in interception seven.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And he's in the back end now with the New
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: England Patriots. And he's obviously a big part of why
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: they're playing well in the back end.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: And Jaguars fans will remember his name because he always
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: seemed to come up with a play or two that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: caused some sleepless nights around here. Let's talk about the
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Jaguars offense. Here's Trevor Lawrence.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: The conversation started early this week. I may have pushed
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it a little bit, too. When you look at guys
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: who are targeted, Brian Thomas Jr. targeted eight times in
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: two games, producing seven yards per game. per target. Uh,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the number one guy is Jacoby Myers, 22.7. Hey, target
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: him more.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, simple. I get it. He's Brent Strange, only
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: five targets, producing eight yards.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: That's a problem.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's been a question, and it was asked
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of the quarterback yesterday. Here's Trevor Lawrence on getting number three,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers, and number 85, Brent Strange, involved.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: They're a huge part of our offense, so that's going
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to be obviously important. And there's stuff every... It's not
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: like we've been avoiding throwing the ball in the plan.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I felt like the last two weeks we've had stuff
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: in the plan for them.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: So.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: You know, we got a game to play Sunday and
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I know I'm not going to, I'm not going to
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: lay out the game plan up here in front of
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: everybody else, but.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It's, it's important.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And those guys are great players. And I think that
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: they both, I know they both understand the role they
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: have in our offense.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So how do you get Jacoby Myers more involved? And
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I say that because it would seem like there's an
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: opportunity this week. If Christian Gonzalez is going to follow
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington, we don't know the Patriots game plan, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: it would seem that would be the logical conclusion.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I think, again, the quarterback, you always tell them, hey,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: take what the defense gives you. I think if you
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: try to force the ball to a certain player, Denver
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: did it pretty well last week with Waddell, their top receiver,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: but then you get in trouble right now. You miss
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the open throws that the defense gives you by the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: scheme of their defense. So I think you can have
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: him in there for more reps. That's one way you
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: get it done. And then you just look at, again,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: how you can utilize your– formations and your your routes
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: against their defense and and and take advantage of what.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: They give and sometimes it's just finding the open guys
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the quarterback you know I mean for example the uh
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: first drive of the second.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Half third and five third goal at the five.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: The incompletion to Laquan Allen Jr. yeah on the goal
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: line I mean you got Brenton Strange open and Trevor
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: just didn't see him.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Do you think on that play he was waiting for
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr. to get open in the corner of
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the end zone I.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Don't really know what he was... You know, I mean,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that's one of those things where I.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Because I was watching it and thinking... It's been a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: long time since I.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Played quarterback, Brian.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're intuitive, Bobby. You're intuitive. That's why I ask.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I never put anything beyond your football knowledge.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was... I think I've got to go back
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to my freshman year.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: He was pretty well reputed in terms of his quarterback play.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's for sure.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: You might have recruited him, huh?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: You go back that far.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I used to call us 17 and 18 sweep stuff.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: That worked, too.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: In other words, I'm running. Come and get me, baby.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: But.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I guess what I'm wondering is if he's trying to
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: get the ball to Brian.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But I can tell you after having a game like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Brian had this past game, if you're the quarterback, I mean,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: natural reaction is I'm not going to throw it very
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: much his way.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's been disavowed of that notion.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: But you still have to trust him and all that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But the reality is everybody's human, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: human nature is going to be human nature. But when
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you have an offense that's like the Jaguars, when you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: have a very wide array of weapons, there's going to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: be weeks to where you sit there and you go, well,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: why didn't we get the ball more to this guy?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Or why didn't we get the ball more to that guy?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And I think that we will have games in the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: future where we say, well, why didn't we get the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: ball more to Parker Washington? And that's okay. I mean,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: as long as it's winning football. And this week– Because
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: you have a very talented secondary, my expectation is that
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: 85 will be a guy that gets trusted in this situation.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And also Jacoby, just because there's not going to be
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of separation more than likely in this game.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And Jacoby's the guy that you trust when there is
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: not a lot of separation.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: There's another guy who he's averaging 10 yards per target. Now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: full disclosure, he's only been targeted twice for 20 yards.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: But that's Josh Cameron, who... they really seem to be
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: high on. I mean, they think he has got a
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: lot of upside.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: What's not to be high on?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Would you put him on the field more? I mean,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: would you maybe give him two reps that you would
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: give Brian Thomas Jr.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, what the reality is is that
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: when you have the performance like Brian had where you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: had some drops and you had one play that it
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: was very clear that Trevor was not very happy, because
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: they had to burn a timeout because they couldn't get
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: lined up. And then they take Brian Thomas Jr. off
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the field before they line back up again and put
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Josh Cameron on it. Okay, that tells you right there that, hey, look,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Brian didn't get lined up right. Quarterback's not happy. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: when you have things like that, the drops, you didn't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: get lined up, then the next week, again, this goes
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to that accountability thing that we talked about with the defense.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden those reps start to go
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to others until– the player that has shown that they're
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: not quite making enough plays shows that they will make
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: those plays. It is what it is.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the misalignment, it's not getting lined up, happened
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: twice actually in that game as far as what Jeff
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: just said. And so like he said, accountability is right.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to put people in that are going to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: be productive for us. And I like the fact that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: they respond that way as a staff here as far
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: as that's concerned.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: With Cameron's hands– We saw that first week, Cleveland, the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: end zone, the tight window.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Great catch.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I go to that play that on the deep out
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: that Brian dropped. I also go to that play where
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you've got Sertan covering Brian down the field. I just
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: would have loved to have seen Cameron in those situations,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but here's the reality. Not very many people can run
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like Brian Thomas Jr.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: With his size and length.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Can a Josh Cameron get into that position? Like Brian
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Thomas Jr.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Was.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. That's the part that you don't know.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And that's the part that you kind of maybe sub
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a guy a few times to see if he can
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: do some of that stuff. But the reality is that's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: not a trait that can be coached. I mean, that's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: what makes Brian Thomas Jr. To use James Gladstone's term,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that's Brian's superpower is his speed.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: So let me throw this at you then. From a
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: wide receiver's perspective only, does Travis Hunter have some time
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: on the offensive side this week?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Does he?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Do you give him some opportunities?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Or do you up his reps in the secondary
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to improve things over there?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that in our next segment.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: But I'm just curious if you think that maybe– and look,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: everyone's counting every snap he gets.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Let me just say this about Travis. For the most–
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: how many catches does he have on season?
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: One.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Like one, right? I think he has one. Okay, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: want to make sure.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: He has one on a wide receiver's screen.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: One for eight yards.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yep. So you've got one catch. How many plays
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: have you seen to where it has been essentially a decoy?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Like fake quick screens?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Almost all.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Okay. At some point, okay, the fakes stop getting respected
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: unless the ball starts going his way. So if he
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: does go on offense, I think that what is going
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to be fakes or decoys now have to turn into
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: true targets and catches and plays at some point.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: For sure, for validity's sake as far as that's concerned,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: because like Jeff's saying right now, one catch, and last
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: week for sure he was utilized as a decoy in
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: watching him play. So, again, you pay attention to the playmakers.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Right now he hasn't shown that yet or been called
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: into that responsibility on offense.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about him and his time in
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: our last segment. Remind me again, you thought as a
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: wide receiver that he was a guy who was just
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: as naturally gifted, as effortless a receiver as you had seen.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So if he comes onto the field on offense, you
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: get a little excited.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I think he– look, he has legitimate top-end receiving skills.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: 23 miles an hour I think he ran.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: But the part that you just don't know is can
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: he run everything? Yeah. Or is it just limited packages?
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, you want to be able to take
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: advantage of that skill set that he has.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And maybe it's this week. Maybe it's next week. Maybe
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen at all. I don't know. But I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: will tell you this. I want to see him more
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: on the field on defense.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, me for sure on that one.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But electric player.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Hold that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I'm getting there.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to hold you guys off on this one.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: It's been a big story this week. We'll talk about Travis.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: And we'll have Mr. Chubby's players to watch when we
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: return to Jaguars Happy Hour on 1010XL, 92.5 FM, the
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube channel, the Jaguars website, and probably 16 other
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: places I don't even know where to look. But you
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: people who are out there are smart, and you'll find
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: us because we're here talking ball. And we're back after this.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Here we go, final segment of Jaguars Happy Hour. Stay
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: tuned at 5 p.m. Eastern time. Tony Buscelli and James
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Gladstone join Jeff and I for Jags HQ. All right,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: cue the Mr. Chubby's Wings commercial for Jeff Lagerman to
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: make him salivate. Players to Watch, brought to you by Mr.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game, during the game,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: and on Jeff's way home. You don't say. Do you
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: know the first time that I went to Buffalo with Jeff,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: we went to the Anchor Bar.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm all excited about wings, and Jeff says, yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: but you've got to try the pizza, too.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: World famous.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: The birthplace of Buffalo wings.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Right absolutely and every time we played in buffalo we
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: went and over the course of all those years there's another.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Place there that's really good too by.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: The way it's got i'm shocked that you know this
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: what is.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The name of that place i don't know i think
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: i got it i got saved in my course i'll
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: have to look it up during the next break.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: There's one out there pretty famous called duff's Just so
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you know that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It might be Duff's.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I think it is, just so you understand that. I'll
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: tell you in a minute because I.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Got it on my phone.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I'm told by people who know that it is Duff's.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I wish I had a piece of it. Famous.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: When did you open it?
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: No, I have nothing to do with it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Not related to it in any way, shape, or form.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go see them after the show.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, maybe you should start your own place.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, so players to watch. Obviously, the other big story
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: this week has been Travis Hunter, the rotation on defense,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the number of snaps. And what I look at, really,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: is just production, right? I don't care how many snaps
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: he plays, Jeff. When he's out there, I want to
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: see quality snaps. I'm not as concerned with quantity at
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: this point in his career. Just show me good stuff.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's– and I had this conversation earlier
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in the week, and I think it's an evolving– process
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: in that. How many games has he played now in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: his career?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: He's played nine. He will play his 17th game. He
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: will have a full rookie season when they play the
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: New York Giants the Sunday before Thanksgiving.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And I believe that there's a process to all of this.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: One is him getting the confidence, coaching staff getting the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: confidence in what he is involved in, offense and defense.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: And confidence also in the form of Where is he
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: at from a physical standpoint from coming back from an injury?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I think all that comes into play. Now, at some point,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you want to see the number of snaps, I think,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: go up on defense and still have packages on offense,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: just because I think that his coverage skills are elite
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: when it comes to man coverage. But I don't know
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the answer as to how far into the game plan
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: there is a comfort level with him to go. When
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you're a two-way player, there's two things to learn. Most
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: players only have to learn one. So can you learn
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: both things unlike any other player? I mean, that's not
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. I don't know.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It's very, very difficult. And, again, that's why I think
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: trying to major him on defense where you can get
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: as much technique, fundamentals taught to him, responsibilities to him,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: that's critical right now. He's been able to survive. in
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: a big, big way, a very positive way, with great athleticism. Well,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: this league takes not only athleticism, but takes great technique.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: The more he can get that at corner right now,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I think, the better. And like Coach said, or Jeff
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: just said, if you put more in his pocket in
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: terms of the offensive end of it, you're watering stuff down,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing that I really liked about his
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: play this past game, and you guys will remember there
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: was a completion game into the flat and it was
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to that rookie running back of the Denver Broncos who's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: about 220 pounds. And Coleman comes up the field and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to happen. You're sitting there going, okay, this
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is going to be a physical confrontation. A lot of
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: corners in the league are not going to be very
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: willing in that scenario, and Travis came in and lowered
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the bow.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: He's not scared to hit. I mean, he will put
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: his nose in there.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: No, he was very decisive on that play. I saw
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: it the same way you did right now, and that's
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: what you look for in that situation. A lot of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: guys are just drag-down guys. He came up and stuck him.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Now, the arm was hanging down a little bit, you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: after the initial he got up.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He felt it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He felt it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And he's going back to the huddle and he's like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: arm's hanging down by his side.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: That's going to hurt a little bit. What else do
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: you like about his game?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He's just an elite athlete.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And you see that. He may not have the whole
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: playbook on defense down yet, but you see the athleticism.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Here's one thing that doesn't require a very great knowledge
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of when it comes to playbooks is man coverage. What
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I can say, it's cat coverage. You cover that cat.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And he's got such elite athleticism and elite speed that
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he does not fear any vertical speed whatsoever. And so
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: he never tries to get ahead of the round because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: he just reacts to the route. And there's not many
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: athletes in the National Football League that can do that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. 100% correct. I mean, this guy, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever seen anybody demonstrate the kind
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of skills he's gotten. He's got recoverability skills, too. So, again, rare,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: rare athleticism by this guy.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: role evolves on defense because right now Monteric's Struggled a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: little bit on some deep balls.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Jarion's just kind of been okay. And if you want
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to take a big step up as a defense, give
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: me an elite corner.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Look at the Patriots with Gonzalez.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Gonzalez, yeah. His statistics are off the charts, really.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons why. I think
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: they're the number one ranked run defense in points allowed.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they are.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: The Patriots and Gonzalez is a big reason for that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: They have given up one touchdown.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: They have allowed an average of nine points going back
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: their last four regular season games. The most they've allowed
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: is 13. That's right. Now, what's interesting is the Jaguars,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: over their last four regular season games, have averaged 28
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: points a game.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Offensively, yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: At home, they've averaged 40. in their last four regular
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: season home games. So there's a little give and take
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: here this week.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, doggone right. I mean, we're going to face a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: defense that brings it now. I mean, this guy, they
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: mix it up in terms of man pressure. Shoot, they're
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: playing man pressure or man coverage at a clip of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: about 1.9 per play. The best in the league right
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: now in terms of man coverage. But they'll play five-man rush,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: simulated pressures. They'll fire zone you. So they mix it up,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: try to make it muddy up for the quarterback.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had talked a little bit about this, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: what makes that defense unique is where Gonzalez lines up.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: We talked about him matching Parker Washington and D.K. Metcalf.
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  Speaker 1: Watching that Pittsburgh Steelers film, he followed D.K. Metcalf everywhere
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  Speaker 1: he went. So if D.K. was in the slot, then
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez was in the slot. If he was wide right,
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  Speaker 1: Then Gonzalez was the left corner. If DK was wide left,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: then Gonzalez was the right corner. And some teams play
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  Speaker 1: that way, and then they basically are declaring your defense
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  Speaker 1: to the offense, saying, okay, we're playing man because we're matching. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what they do, which is pretty unique, is that they
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  Speaker 1: travel Gonzalez to follow the best receiver, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: always play man. They'll play zone, and Gonzalez will be,
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  Speaker 1: if he's lined up, if he's following DK, wherever DK goes,
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  Speaker 1: that's where Gonzalez either plays man or plays zone in
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  Speaker 1: that position. So everybody else also has to be able
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  Speaker 1: to do other positions because Gonzalez might take theirs. And
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  Speaker 1: they do it very well, which is pretty unique.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're very well coordinated, not only in the coverage
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  Speaker 2: in it, but also in the pressure in it. But
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  Speaker 2: guys are, again, all of them can rush. All of
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  Speaker 2: them can pressure. So, again, they've got versatility across the board.
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  Speaker 2: That's what makes them pretty effective on defense.
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  Speaker 3: Do they remind you of Mike Vrabel's Titans? Do they
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  Speaker 3: play a similar style? I'm not talking necessarily to the T,
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  Speaker 3: but do they remind you of what you saw from
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  Speaker 3: Vrabel when he was in Asheville?
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  Speaker 1: Just from the standpoint of they come to play every game.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I thought about them.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a trait of a Vrabel coached team.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're fundamental. I agree with that. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're fundamentally sound. They play with great technique, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't beat themselves. They work you down to the point
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  Speaker 2: where hopefully you beat yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you hope that that trait also exists on the
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball for this game because Vrabel
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  Speaker 1: never really had any good offenses in Tennessee. No.
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  Speaker 3: No, he– He was working always to get it. When
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: he did, he had A.J. Brown, and that was working
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  Speaker 3: for him, and then they traded A.J. Brown away.
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  Speaker 1: He also had Derrick Henry. That worked pretty good for him.
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  Speaker 1: That was the one part that was good, but the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: quarterback play wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't very consistent for him, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: No, and the general manager was drafting guys that just
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: couldn't play.
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  Speaker 3: The other guy, though, that they had, they always seem
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: to have a tight end that they could make things happen,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and that's what they do have here. I mean, Hunter
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Henry's in his 11th season, but from what I've seen,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: it looks like that's the go-to guy.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Well, because I think the wide receivers are, I mean,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be critical of them, but I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: think they're solid guys.
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  Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, the former Green Bay Packer.
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  Speaker 1: But do they instill fear in opposing defensive coordinators? I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: don't think so. Duff, tell me, do you scare any
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: of these guys?
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  Speaker 2: No, you're concerned with Dobbs' speed as far as that's concerned,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: but he's shown some inconsistency. I'm with Brian. In fact,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: you know, he may have come out and said his–
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Safety blanket is Hunter Henry, the guy he's going to
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: go to when he needs to make a play or
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: a play has to be made. So, no, they don't
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: scare you as far.
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  Speaker 1: As that's concerned. So a little advanced peek, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: every week when we do a broadcast, we have, you know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: players to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: You know, my player to watch in this game is
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: going to be Antonio Johnson for the very reason that
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you talked about and that Hunter Henry is a dependable guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But then also the importance of the Patriots need to
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: run the football. and how much Antonio Johnson comes up
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and is that extra defender in the box for the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: run game, I think this is a critical game for him.
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  Speaker 3: Jim, there used to be a New England Patriots defender,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and you couldn't classify him. But do you remember Adelius Thomas?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: He came from Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: What number did he wear?
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: He was a Southern Miss guy.
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  Speaker 2: Southern Miss is right. I went to his workout when
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: he was coming out.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Out. Great player. And then he went to Belichick. And Belichick,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: he was big enough he could play up on the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: line as an edge rusher. And then you could play
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: linebacker anywhere you wanted him. And then they used him
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: as a safety. And as I'm watching Antonio Johnson move
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: all over the place, I'm thinking, there's a little Adelius
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Thomas quality here. They move him up and blitz him.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: They move him up to play tight ends in the run.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: That's high praise, by the way, because I always thought
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Adelius Thomas was one of the most versatile players in
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the league during his time.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Exceptional player. I mean, again, every team in this league
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: would have loved to have had him and then some.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: That's for sure.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: When you watch Antonio Johnson on the field, and look,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: his play hasn't been perfect. I mean, there's some things
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that he's got to do better along with other guys
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: in the back end. But his athleticism and his speed
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: is very easy to take. Notice of when you watch
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the film and you watch them live.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: All right, guys. Fans, Tuesday, September 29th, 6 to 7,
• 50:11
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• 50:15
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• 50:19
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• 50:23
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