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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 253 | Championing Physicality, Talking Week 4 Matchup w/ Mike Petraglia · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Jags AM, brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by GEHA, Employee Benefits for Government Employees and Retirees. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton in the Hyundai studios. Mark Duffner is here.
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  Speaker 1: John Ogier is here. So let's get rolling with big things.
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  Speaker 1: And right out of the gate, guys, here's the question.
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  Speaker 1: Run it or rip it?
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  Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: And what the Jaguars always used to do with Peyton Manning,
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  Speaker 1: with Fred Taylor and Maurice Drew, run the ball, consume
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  Speaker 1: the clock, shorten the game. But modern football doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: play that way. And you have a quarterback who is
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  Speaker 1: performing at a very high level. So, John Ogier, what's
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  Speaker 1: the game plan on Sunday? Do you go in there
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  Speaker 1: planning to run it and control the clock or run
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  Speaker 1: it just enough to set up Trevor Lawrence in some
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  Speaker 1: favorable passing situations and let her rip?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think pretty much any team, ideally, when they're
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  Speaker 3: game planning, would love to just run it. But football,
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  Speaker 3: as you say, isn't really made that way now. So
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  Speaker 3: I think the good news for the Jaguars right here, Brian–
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that they have come close to hitting
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  Speaker 3: their peak running. I don't think the stats show what
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be, mainly because they haven't hit any
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  Speaker 3: explosive runs. And usually explosives are what your stats are
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  Speaker 3: built on. But this team, I think right now, Duff,
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  Speaker 3: they are running effectively enough to control games, get to
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  Speaker 3: the pass, and eventually those stats are going to go up.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's no doubt about that, John.
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  Speaker 5: And I think You know, as you've seen, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Basil Tootin right now is inches from breaking big runs
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  Speaker 5: as far as that's concerned. And here's the other thing
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  Speaker 5: right now. The Bengals' defense well improved from last year
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  Speaker 5: in the first two ballgames, struggled a little bit in
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  Speaker 5: their last ballgame against Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh ran the.
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  Speaker 5: Ball for 138 yards and six yards a carry, had
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  Speaker 5: trouble tackling. So I think attacking with the run game,
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  Speaker 5: I like the rip part of it too, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: Again, let's take advantage.
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  Speaker 5: Set up Trevor for play-action pass and explosive plays.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go get him.
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  Speaker 1: Up next is a Bengals-run defense that a year ago
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  Speaker 1: was an injury to the Bengals.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was traumatic.
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  Speaker 1: For Cincinnati and their playoff hopes. They gave up 165
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  Speaker 1: yards on the ground per game, dead last in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: but they got new stripes this year. They went out
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  Speaker 1: and brought in some guys, Boye Mafe from the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl champion Seahawks. They bring Jonathan Allen, the former first-round
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  Speaker 1: pick out of Alabama, who was in Washington and Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: And then the centerpiece is Sexy Dexy, right? Big Dexter Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: And he is a massive human being, and the coach
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  Speaker 1: talked about what he's capable of doing in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of that defense.
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  Speaker 6: You can tell their linebackers are so much more patient.
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  Speaker 6: They're not biting quite as hard on play action as
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  Speaker 6: maybe they did at times last year. When you have
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  Speaker 6: a front disruptor like Dex, it makes everybody's job easier.
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  Speaker 6: He's essentially handling multiple gaps on his own. It's challenging
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  Speaker 6: to back block him. It's challenging to, obviously, when you
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  Speaker 6: get him in a zero, knows where to one-on-one block them,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's on a run or a pass. Um, yeah, there,
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  Speaker 6: there's a reason why he lines up so close to
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  Speaker 6: the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, coach, the numbers say they're 42% better this year,
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  Speaker 1: giving up just 95 yards on the ground through three games.
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  Speaker 1: And you heard, it's not just what Dexter can do
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  Speaker 1: in two gaps. It's the way that he impacts the
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  Speaker 1: entire defense.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, there's no doubt about it. He's brought an infectious,
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  Speaker 5: aggressive attitude to the team. And, uh, I like what
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  Speaker 5: I see out of this player right now. Heck, in
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  Speaker 5: the game against Pittsburgh, I think he had two quarterback sacks.
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  Speaker 5: He had, I think, four or five tackles, hits on
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  Speaker 5: the quarterback. You mentioned earlier the additions. Allen, Moffay, Cassius Howell,
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  Speaker 5: rookie right now. All of them had multiple quarterback hits
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  Speaker 5: in the Houston game. So they've improved this defense by personnel.
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  Speaker 5: I know the coaching staff's worked very, very hard to
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  Speaker 5: improve technique and scheme, so they're playing at a high level,
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  Speaker 5: much improved from a year ago, but again, had some
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  Speaker 5: blips in the radar a little bit against Pittsburgh, a
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  Speaker 5: team that put a number of points on them right now,
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  Speaker 5: put 411 total yards on them. So I know this
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  Speaker 5: coaching staff's going to work real hard to fix those issues.
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  Speaker 3: Brian, was that sexy Duffy talking about sexy Dexy?
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  Speaker 2: It might be. It might be. Good job there.
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  Speaker 3: Look, the Jaguars need to score points in this game.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough to do that against the Bengals' defense right now,
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  Speaker 3: the way it looks. When I break down this game,
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  Speaker 3: this is the matchup. I don't want to say it
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  Speaker 3: concerns me, but the Jaguars have to work at. The Bengals'
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  Speaker 3: offense is so good. and they're so confident and they're
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  Speaker 3: so veteran, meaning they've got Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase. Remember
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  Speaker 3: last year, Brian, the Jaguars had a lead, and even
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  Speaker 3: with a backup quarterback, Bengals kept coming because they know
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  Speaker 3: they can score. This is a game to me where
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  Speaker 3: if the Jags are up 10 with 11 minutes to go,
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  Speaker 3: they need to play offense, meaning they need to go
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  Speaker 3: after it and get up 17 because this Bengals team
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  Speaker 3: is dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to let it rip.
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  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase last year had 14 catches for 165 yards
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  Speaker 1: and two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Pardon me, one touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: He has 25 catches and two touchdowns in his last
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  Speaker 1: two outings against the Jaguars. You know, one place, Duff,
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  Speaker 1: where they've got to make some hay and where they
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  Speaker 1: can based on the Steelers game is special teams. The
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  Speaker 1: Bengals gave up some points there. Perhaps that's an area
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  Speaker 1: they can exploit.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's no question about it. I mean, there was
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  Speaker 5: a rough and a muff, if you will, in the
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  Speaker 5: game by the Bengals. They roughed a punter. They muffed
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  Speaker 5: a punt. Led to 10 points for Pittsburgh. So special teams...
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  Speaker 5: is going to be critical. All three phases are going
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  Speaker 5: to be critical in this game. This is a 60-minute battle.
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  Speaker 4: Count on it.
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  Speaker 1: Fast and physical is our final big thing. It's something
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  Speaker 1: that the coach talked about watching his defense play against
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots when he.
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  Speaker 2: Met with the media on Monday.
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  Speaker 6: If a run goes to one way, and if you
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  Speaker 6: see your backside corner hustling their tails off to create
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  Speaker 6: an angle, that's when you know the guys are playing free,
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  Speaker 6: they're running the football, they're playing together. There's a standard,
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  Speaker 6: I think, on that side of the ball in terms
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  Speaker 6: of being violent, being physical, running to the football. You know,
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  Speaker 6: Campy says it all the time that God rewards those
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  Speaker 6: who run to the ball, and it's true. And the
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  Speaker 6: way that they play, it takes care of itself. And
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  Speaker 6: so is it always perfect? Is there a ton to
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  Speaker 6: continue to coach off of and learn from? Yes, without
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  Speaker 6: a doubt.
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  Speaker 1: God rewards those who run to the football. That's got
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  Speaker 1: to be hanging on a wall somewhere. We need that
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  Speaker 1: in the studio right here. You see performance so far. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that matters the most is obviously at the
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  Speaker 1: end there, Coach, 12 points allowed. The Jaguars are giving
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  Speaker 1: up some yardage. They're giving up 8.8 yards per pass attempt.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the bottom line, John, is that this
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  Speaker 1: team is giving up yards, but other teams haven't been
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  Speaker 1: able to finish on them. Defense has created negative plays.
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  Speaker 1: It's gotten takeaways and gotten off the field. Against this offense, man,
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  Speaker 1: they need those negative plays and takeaways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucky Brooks said this week on one of our shows,
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  Speaker 3: really the two things that matter on defense in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL is takeaways and points. And I believe that's true
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  Speaker 3: because the league is built right now to have offenses
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  Speaker 3: score and move the ball. So they're going to move
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  Speaker 3: the ball on you because they're talented people. If you
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  Speaker 3: can get takeaways, if you can keep them out of
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  Speaker 3: the end zone, break serve, as I like to say,
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  Speaker 3: then you're in good shape. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 3: this Jaguars defense, I think they may have a game
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  Speaker 3: or two or three where it doesn't look right because
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  Speaker 3: you can't quite get them off the field. But Duff,
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  Speaker 3: if you can stop the run and create turnovers, you're
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  Speaker 3: going to be in games, what, out of 17, you're
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  Speaker 3: going to be in 13 or 14 of those.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, there's no doubt about it. And I think what
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  Speaker 5: Bucky said and what you've just said is dead on.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, again, it's all about scoring, scoring offense, scoring defense.
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  Speaker 5: Last year, we were a top 10 scoring defense. Right now,
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  Speaker 5: I believe we're number one in the league. That's only
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  Speaker 5: three games. But if you can keep people out.
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  Speaker 4: Of the end zone, that's how you win.
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  Speaker 5: And then the takeaway battle right now, which again, last year,
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  Speaker 5: we were, I think, two in the In the league
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the season right now, I think
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  Speaker 5: we're second right now with six takeaways. I think we're
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  Speaker 5: second in the league with turnover margin being four plus four. So, again,
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  Speaker 5: this defense, this coaching staff believes in scoring defense, keeping
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  Speaker 5: people out of the end zone, playing great red zone.
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  Speaker 5: They were perfect in the red zone last week against
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  Speaker 5: New England in terms of defense.
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  Speaker 4: And they believe in getting the ball off of people.
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  Speaker 4: They practice it. They will it.
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  Speaker 5: That's got to be a continued contagion and focus in
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  Speaker 5: this game against Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Coach, since you have a defensive background and since you
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  Speaker 1: were on that Bengal staff with Joe Burrow that went
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  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, how do you play this guy?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, blitzing him doesn't seem to work.
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  Speaker 1: Because his passer rating is off the charts against the blitz.
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  Speaker 1: What's the overall mentality for Campanile and company this week
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  Speaker 1: as they approach Joe Burrow?
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  Speaker 5: I think you've got to be in a position where
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  Speaker 5: you just don't panic.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to make plays.
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  Speaker 5: This guy has the ability to surgically cut you up
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  Speaker 5: in terms of passing. His preparation skill is off the chart.
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  Speaker 5: His awareness, his decision-making, all these things, aside from his
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  Speaker 5: physical skills, are elite.
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  Speaker 4: And so they're going to make some plays.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, again, the duo fling and cling of Burrow
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  Speaker 5: to Chase is outstanding. And, of course, throw in T.
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  Speaker 4: Higgins, Mike Giusecchi, and Chase Brown. There's numerous.
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  Speaker 5: weapons over there. Again, we've got to make things muddy
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  Speaker 5: for Joe as best we can, try to affect him,
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  Speaker 5: get him off the spot.
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  Speaker 1: And if the blitz doesn't work, John, it means they've
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  Speaker 1: got to get pressure up front with four, and against
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  Speaker 1: those two massive offensive tackles, it means 41 and 44.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Hines-Allen and Trayvon Walker have got to get some
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  Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback without the blitz coming at their aid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's... because they're not getting enough pressure from
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  Speaker 3: the interior right now. So to me, this game will
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  Speaker 3: be a game of moments. I expect Burrow to be
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  Speaker 3: able to get some points. Can the Jaguars get to
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  Speaker 3: him a couple of times when maybe you're not expecting it?
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  Speaker 3: A couple of big sacks, a turnover. Win the moment,
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  Speaker 3: even if they get you... in the long term some
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  Speaker 3: in this game.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there you have it.
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  Speaker 1: Big things to start off a Thursday morning edition of
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  Speaker 1: Jags AM.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Ahead, including Kai Stevens, who takes us behind enemy lines
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  Speaker 1: and takes us to Cincinnati. Sunday's game against the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: beer of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And we're back with Kai
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  Speaker 1: behind enemy lines right after this.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome to Behind Enemy Lines, where we check in with
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  Speaker 7: a media member covering the opposing team for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 7: And this week, the Jaguars are heading to Cincinnati, so
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  Speaker 7: we're checking in with Mike Petraglia, beat reporter of the Bengals.
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  Speaker 7: And Mike, I watched last week's game against the Steelers,
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  Speaker 7: and I thought the Bengals had figured the defense out,
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  Speaker 7: but it felt like a bit of a meltdown at
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  Speaker 7: the end.
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  Speaker 8: Really did, because I think the Bengals were caught off
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  Speaker 8: guard by the rhythm that Aaron Rodgers threw at them.
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  Speaker 8: He really mixed up the offense and the tempo of
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  Speaker 8: the offense quite a bit. He went fast, went slow,
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  Speaker 8: went in between, threw a lot of short passes over
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  Speaker 8: the middle to the running backs and also used the
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  Speaker 8: tight ends, which Bengals have been susceptible to over the
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  Speaker 8: last couple of years. And they had a great deal
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  Speaker 8: of success with that, especially in the first half. They
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  Speaker 8: had touchdowns on the first two possessions, also had a
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  Speaker 8: field goal in that first half. They didn't punt at all.
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  Speaker 8: until the ill-fated punt by the Bengals that wound up
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  Speaker 8: in a personal foul roughing the punter that led to
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  Speaker 8: eventually seven more points for the Steelers. So I think
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  Speaker 8: the Bengals' defense this week has to get back to
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  Speaker 8: the drawing board just a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, Steelers game aside, we know that those divisional matchups
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  Speaker 7: can be a bit strange, but what have you seen
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  Speaker 7: in terms of offseason changes, adding Dexter Lawrence there in
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  Speaker 7: the middle and then through the first two weeks?
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  Speaker 8: They're winning at the line of attack. That's really the
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  Speaker 8: biggest difference with the Bengals. They are really able to
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  Speaker 8: dominate at the line of scrimmage. On Sunday in Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 8: Steelers had a bit of success neutralizing Dexter Lawrence for
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  Speaker 8: a good portion of the first half, but in the
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  Speaker 8: second half, he started to wear down, and so did
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  Speaker 8: Jonathan Allen and Boye Mafe, the free agent acquisition for
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  Speaker 8: the Bengals. They started to wear down the Pittsburgh offensive
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  Speaker 8: line and started to get a little bit more pressure
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  Speaker 8: on Aaron Rodgers but that's been the big biggest difference
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  Speaker 8: because when you can rush the offense into a read
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  Speaker 8: that they probably don't want to get into then the
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  Speaker 8: defense become on the second and third levels become a
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  Speaker 8: lot more effective and that was the case against the
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  Speaker 8: Houston Texans certainly with CJ Stroud and even in week
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  Speaker 8: one against Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 2: And the Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 7: This team, they played each other early last season, but
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  Speaker 7: that was a Jake Browning game because Joe Burrow got
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  Speaker 7: injured early. So is Joe Burrow back to form and
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  Speaker 7: obviously all the weapons surrounding him?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the game that Joe Burrow had on Sunday,
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  Speaker 8: even Zach Taylor said it after the game on Sunday,
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  Speaker 8: he said it again on Monday, had an outstanding game
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  Speaker 8: against the Steelers, made all the right reads, really was
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  Speaker 8: able to make some clutch throws on third down. a
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  Speaker 8: couple of fourth down conversions, one to Jamar Chase. He
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  Speaker 8: looked very confident in the pocket until when? The very
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  Speaker 8: last offensive play of the game where he didn't take
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  Speaker 8: care of the football and there was a strip sack
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  Speaker 8: and it cost the Bengals the game. So Steelers were
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  Speaker 8: not able to get through to Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 8: was releasing the ball on time. He looked like his
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  Speaker 8: old self on Sunday, very, very efficient, effective, and was
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  Speaker 8: able to get.
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  Speaker 2: The ball downfield.
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  Speaker 7: I know the Jags are excited to get back up
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  Speaker 7: there and kind of see where they are. This is
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  Speaker 7: a tough stretch for them. Who's an X factor player,
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  Speaker 7: maybe one on offense, one on defense you have for
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  Speaker 7: this matchup if the Bengals want to win?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think if the Bengals really want to win
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  Speaker 8: this game, I think Marius Mims is going to have
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  Speaker 8: to have a great game against the Jaguars defensive front.
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  Speaker 8: Marius Mims talked about it on Monday. He said, you know,
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  Speaker 8: you go from Houston and their front to Pittsburgh and T.J. Watt,
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  Speaker 8: and he had a fabulous game against T.J.
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  Speaker 2: Watt.
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  Speaker 8: No pressures from T.J. Watt during that game. And also
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  Speaker 8: they handled Alex Highsmith pretty well in addition to that.
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  Speaker 8: This week, Marius Mims said, you know, the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 8: not one but two players who can really bring pressure
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  Speaker 8: on every single snap against the Jaguars. So that would be,
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  Speaker 8: to me, offensively where the Bengals have to really focus
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  Speaker 8: their effort. in terms of protecting Joe Burrow. Defensively, I
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  Speaker 8: think in this particular game, the Bengals' edge rushers in particular,
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to go with Boye Mafe trying to get
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  Speaker 8: after Trevor Lawrence and control the pressure on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 8: If the Bengals want to win this game, they've got
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  Speaker 8: to do a better job of pressuring the quarterback than
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  Speaker 8: they did against Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 7: Always comes down to the trenches. It's going to be
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  Speaker 7: a good matchup. Mike, we'll see you on Sunday. That
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  Speaker 7: was behind enemy lines as we checked in on what's
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  Speaker 7: going on with the Bengals. Stay with us here as
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  Speaker 7: we'll tell you our predictions for game day.
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  Speaker 1: slash Jacksonville. And welcome back to Jags AM. Time for
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  Speaker 1: one of our favorite segments. It's Coach Duff coaching on
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  Speaker 1: what the Jaguars need to do.
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  Speaker 2: We call it IF. Duff, what you got?
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  Speaker 4: I got a lot today, man. Appreciate it, Brian, right now.
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  Speaker 5: Give me your eyes and ears here because this is
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  Speaker 5: going to be the best game of the week by far.
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  Speaker 5: No question about it.
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  Speaker 4: Here are the yes. First and foremost, be in control.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: What do I mean by that? I mean control the clock,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: a ball control offense. We've got to run the football, establish,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: shrink the game, establish the line of scrimmage, keep the Bengals'
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: offense on the sideline, keep them over there anxious to
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: get on the football field. When we move the football
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: down the field, make it go fast, Use up the
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: clock and score touchdowns right now. That's going to be
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the key. And when we're out there on defense, understand
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: that they're going to make plays.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Don't flinch.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Make them earn every inch. Make them go the long way.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Score touchdowns on offense. Make them go the long way
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: on defense. Be in control.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Number two.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Be special, all right? What I mean by that is
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: win the special teams right now. Win field position. That's
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: going to be critical in the game. Both of these
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: special teams units are, I think, exceptional at the top
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: of the league. But they've had a couple hiccups here recently.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: We've got to improve our coverage in terms of our
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: punt coverage and kickoff coverage. Keep their returners to no
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: yards as best we possibly can. They've had trouble in
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: terms of what we call rough and muff.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: They roughed a punter last week against Pittsburgh. They muffed
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a punt.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: That equaled 10 points for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Win special teams.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Kevin McPherson, their kicker. I mean, Evan McPherson, their kicker
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: right now, 20 out of 20 in field goals. He's
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: hit five in a row from over 50 yards, a
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: real scoring machine as far as that's concerned. And their punter,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Ryan Retko, golly, I think he led the league in
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: punting last year, got a booming leg.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Win field position, win special teams.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Number three, the final 15 win the fourth quarter. Bengals
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: have had trouble at times holding on to the league
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, although they came back to beat
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: us last.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Year in the fourth quarter.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Joe Burrows had 11 game-winning drives in his career, so
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: this is going to be a 60-minute game. They thought
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: last week that they'd beat themselves. They had penalties, procedural errors,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: issues that kind of kept them from winning the game
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and scoring right now. This coaching staff at Cincinnati is excellent.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: They'll fix all those issues. We're going to get their
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: A game in all three phases, offense, defense, and special teams.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Count on that. Handle the noise.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Handle the atmosphere as far as that's concerned. Be the
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: most physical, smart, tough football team. This is going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: be 60 minutes, four quarters of rock them, sock them,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: buckle up.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Coach, let's go back to Joe Burrow, a guy that
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you know and have a lot of admiration for. He
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: was brilliant last week in that loss. You say you're
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: going to get their A game. Didn't we see his
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: A game last week? Are you telling me there's another
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: level to his performance?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I've seen many, many great games
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: by Joe Bryant. That's for sure.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: And last week he completed the first 14 passes in
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: a row in the game. He was 18 for 21,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I guess, for about 160 yards in the first half.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was on fire. And again, I saw
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: his attitude after the game. He is so determined, so competitive.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: We're going to get his best again. I've seen him
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: put together great game after great game. Anticipate that coming
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: because he's that special. oh boy john i think you
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: got to do everything you got you can to disrupt
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: him whether it's rerouting try to attract his attention, try
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: to distract his attention, if you will, as far as
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: that's concerned. You know, you made a great point there
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: a minute ago. I've never seen the first tackler tackle him.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: He makes people miss.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: You ought to see him.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: He's an elite-looking athlete, and he's highly competitive, terrific young
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: man as far as that's concerned, and, again, just has glue. T.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Higgins, too.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, golly damn, I've never seen anybody go up
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and get more balls than that guy. So my point
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: to you is they've got explosive weapons right now. Again,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: they're going to make some plays.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Don't flinch. Make them earn every inch.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So I want to go back to the runner to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: rip it and how comfortable you feel with Trevor Lawrence,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the way that he's playing right now.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: All of the numbers, Duff, say rip it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I'm real comfortable with what I see him doing. And, yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I don't want us to become conservative. I want us
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: to continue to take what the defense does, and he's
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: done that at a marvelous rate as far as that's
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: concerned right now. So running the ball, play action pass,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: explosive plays, force them to tackle.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Like every defense.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: You want to force every defense to be a tackling defense.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: They struggled a little bit like that with that last week.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I know they'll work hard to fix it, but again,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: let's go after them. We've got the weapons.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Unload them.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And facial tootin' is third in the National Football League
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: right now in forcing missed tackles, so that seems to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you watched some of his plays last
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: week in the yak yards, yards after the carry, after
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: he got the ball, what he did right now, he's
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: making people miss across the board. His vision's better. His
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: cutting ability's better. Again, Positive yards from this guy. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: am so proud of him and so much a fan
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: of him in terms of the way he plays, how
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: hard he is. Watch him here. He's knocking people down
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: left and right. Again, they've got to bring their A
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: game in terms of physicality to take on Tashel Tootin.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I got so excited I couldn't even talk.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: But, Duff, can you run on a team that has
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: extra lines?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I think you can. Here's the key. And actually, Pittsburgh
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: kind of gave us the blueprint. They went on the perimeter.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: They ran outside. They attacked the edges of the defense
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: that Cincinnati presents.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: You know, again, they've had some excellent additions.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: We just talked about them earlier, whether it's Allen, whether
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: it's Cassius Howell, whether it's Boye Mafe, certainly Dexter Lawrence.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: But again, they were vulnerable in the perimeter of their
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: defense last week against Pittsburgh. That's another area we should exploit.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: There you have it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Jaguars win if every week we get if from Coach Duffner.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And we'll be.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Back with tomorrow's headlines today, right after this on Jags AM. Well,
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• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And on Thursdays, we like to take a look ahead.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: A little prediction game here. What might we read in.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: The headlines on Monday? John, let's start with you. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: went with.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Steady, solid success. And I guess I kind of disagree
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: with Duff a little bit. I kind of think this
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: game may be less spectacular and more about the Jaguars.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Being methodical.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: They've lost a couple of sort of shootout games to
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: this team in the last few years. They lost out
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: here when Trevor got hurt, lost up there in sort
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of a weird early regime kind of game. I think
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars may be able to run, and I think
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: it may be a less back-and-forth stressful game than what
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: we're anticipating.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe I just hope that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I'm praying like crazy it is like that. And with
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: our defense, the way they play, the consistency they demonstrate,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I think you have a good insight on it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I think you've got to get turnovers to get to
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: that point. If you're going to be ahead of this team,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think you have to turn the ball over in
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the first half.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: How about you?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Well, I had finish, you know, Jaguars finish, and I
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: think that's going to be the key on this thing because–
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I believe it's going to be a six, like they
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: all are, they're 60-minute games, but in particular this one
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: I think is going to go down to the end
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: of the game. It's going to be a four-quarter battle,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: back and forth, and I see the team coming out
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: at the end as victorious, but it's going to take
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: our best.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Burrow's a guy who knows how to win at the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: end of a game. We've seen Trevor do it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Doing it on the road in a hostile environment against
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow would be a big step forward for a guy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Who's taken big steps in the last year.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, there's no question about it. Every week he's
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: ascending in areas of the game right now. His leadership,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: his poise, his command, it's all right there. He's going
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: to demonstrate it in the Queen City.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I went with the AAA theme, and that is anyone,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: any place, any time, which has been this team's rallying cry.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Early in the season.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: John, it's one we're going to hear a lot over
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years as the Jaguars become America's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: road team, playing in Orlando next year. But the mentality is,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and this is a great Bengals team, one that Trevor
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Lawrence has not beaten, doesn't.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Seem to matter.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and at some point you have to, if you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: going to be the anyone, anytime, anyplace, that was the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: theme against Denver, didn't get it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So Liam's right.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: If this team is going to succeed over the next
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: couple years, it has to play to this, it has
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: to win games like this.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I talked to Matt Aruja, who is the defensive pass
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: game coordinator this week, really bright young coaching. And I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: asked him about the challenge of this passing game. He
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even name Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, or Tee Higgins.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He said, it is all about us. We're watching them,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but they're watching us. We're showing them what we can do,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and now we have to go do it. Can you
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: just give us a thought on the it's about us mentality?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Because people hear coaches talk about that But it's kind
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: of tough.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: To believe when you're getting ready for Jamar Chase.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I think what Matt said is absolutely 100%. It's going
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: to be how we align, how we play with technique,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: how we play with fundamentals. No matter who you play against,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: it's always about that. If you get too distracted with
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: the fluff or the noise or the support of other
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: players right now, that distracts your focus on your job.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Do your job. Know it perfectly. Play fast.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: When you do that right now, good things happen.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Everyone's focused on the– The Broncos trip to San Francisco
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: is the game of the week, right?
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: This one's a game of the week.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Or the Eagles and the Rams?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: No.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: John, he was telling me this morning he thinks it's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the game of the week. Historically, I would suggest that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it would be.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Two number one overall quarterbacks in back-to-back years facing off
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: at Paycore Stadium in Cincinnati on Sunday. And, of course,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we'll be back on Monday with Kai Stevens to wrap
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it all up. And we'll revisit the headlines and see
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: just how right we were.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Lots ahead, folks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here on Jags AM.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday.