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I Am All In Again: Compassion and Chaos (Season 2 E22 “I Can’t Get Started”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's you. I Am
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  Speaker 1: all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one of them
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  Speaker 1: productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast Recap the season finale of
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  Speaker 1: season two, episode twenty two, and we and that's called
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  Speaker 1: I can't get started And it seems like I can't
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  Speaker 1: get started either. We have very special guests once again
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  Speaker 1: joining us, Rene Bell. Rene Welcome, How are you? How
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  Speaker 1: have you been?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Rene has been in such movies It's Ghost World, The Terminal,
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  Speaker 1: Bring It On, road Trip, Baja Beach Bombs, and jar Head.
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  Speaker 1: She had a recurring role in Gilmore Girls, playing Lulu,
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  Speaker 1: local third grade teacher, our Hollow Elementary and Kirk's girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: She also has done some voice acting, being in the
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  Speaker 1: PSP game Genie d Arc and also voices roles in
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  Speaker 1: episodes of animated television series King of the Hill. And
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go over this word by word that
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get No, I'm kidding. Listen. Jackson and Suki's
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  Speaker 1: wedding is upon us. Renie, what do you think of that? Festival?
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  Speaker 1: Begin festivities? Christopher shows up it's just mayhem. Lorealized happy,
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  Speaker 1: but her future plans before each other get derailed by
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  Speaker 1: phone call from Sherry. Oh boy, what a what a
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  Speaker 1: bomb to drop in the middle of at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this episode boring, It's definitely not boring. And but
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  Speaker 1: did you I knew it was going to be something.
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  Speaker 1: I'd seen the episode before. I forgot what it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be, but I knew it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be something. Meanwhile, big surprise turn throws Rory for a loop.
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  Speaker 1: Paris convinces Roy to run as her student body vice president,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a really special episode here. Written and
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  Speaker 1: directed by Amy Sharn Palladino, also written by John Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, so let's discuss Suki's wedding. Hey, they're choosing
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  Speaker 1: music for the wedding. The opening, sukis Laurela to invite
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  Speaker 1: Emily and Richard, but then Lorelei tells him that it's they.
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  Speaker 1: When she tells him, they say it's a pity invite,
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  Speaker 1: which is some very funny stuff right there. Suki's up
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night before her wedding, freaking
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  Speaker 1: out about getting married. Lorelei calms her down by telling
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  Speaker 1: her that she slept with well not at the wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Laurela and Christopher are happy. Everybody's happy, even Emily is glad,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to give it a try. In For me,
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  Speaker 1: it was a stomach churning moment. H Rory turns around
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  Speaker 1: and sees Jess. He tells her that he moved back,
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  Speaker 1: and then Rory impulsively kisses him. Renie, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on in this thing, and she enjoyed the level.
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  Speaker 2: Of drama upon me as it.
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  Speaker 1: Was happening again.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I've completely revisited it, like
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  Speaker 2: it was a complete rewatch for me, like a new experience.
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  Speaker 2: So I was really enjoying the newness of it, and
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  Speaker 2: it was it was exciting. Trouble e way, you're comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: You think Suki getting married has Loria reflecting on her
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  Speaker 1: own love life?
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  Speaker 2: Oh and thought of that? Oh yeah, Laura is so
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  Speaker 2: like well behaved as a human and such a mature
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  Speaker 2: friend that she would never show that to Suki, which
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  Speaker 2: is nice. They don't even address that, but yeah, your
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  Speaker 2: average chick would probably feel that loss.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Were you rooting for the moment when the
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  Speaker 1: camera revealed Jess was standing there towards the end.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was, well, it was it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a like m m oh, okay, here this guy. All right,
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of like that. It was like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about this, But then it was like, but
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting complications cute.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we don't know how long we're going to have
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  Speaker 1: this kid because another show is going to pick him up,
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  Speaker 1: so we better use him. Yeah, at our top, right, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: that kiss they had, right, it's been a long time
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  Speaker 1: coming to to the best of your recollection, Is that
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  Speaker 1: the first time they've kissed it?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I think it is. That's their first kiss? Maybe? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well that's a different Yeah, I admit to not
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  Speaker 2: being fully up to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a chime in here. Does anybody know it's Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first it's the first time they've kissed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that that adds another layer. Man, Rory, she's she's
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  Speaker 2: she's not as frail as she looks.
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  Speaker 1: She's something. Well, it's been a long time coming. Yeah, interesting,
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  Speaker 1: you think that's the moment and h Rory finally realizes
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  Speaker 1: she's in love of them and couldn't hold back her feelings.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that, what what else would that indicate?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's sort of a like my feelings are
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  Speaker 2: bigger than moment. But yeah, the feeling has taken me
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  Speaker 2: and she's in touch with that.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely quarantine. Dean's looking good, he's acting good. He's a
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  Speaker 1: good dude. Right man. He's taller, so it's not fair
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  Speaker 1: because he's six'. Four he's a he's a drink of,
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  Speaker 1: water isn't? He For god's? Sake and he's just going
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  Speaker 1: to get left in the. DUST i feel bad for the.
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  Speaker 2: Guy, well, look this girl's got.
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  Speaker 1: Options she's got. Options they're coming out of the. Woodwork,
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  Speaker 1: man they my. God all, right let's go To Looks.
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  Speaker 1: Down laura finally makes, it and that's that's a pretty funny, scene.
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  Speaker 2: So, cute and she's weaving back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right that's good. Stuff and then she gets
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  Speaker 1: in there and, she's you, know she has to be
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  Speaker 1: parented by her own, Daughter like you're gonna do, fine
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  Speaker 1: don't worry ABOUT i.
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  Speaker 2: Know their dynamic is like really top like it's like
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  Speaker 2: it's like so good in The, like my favorite with
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  Speaker 2: between them is the beginning of the series because they're
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  Speaker 2: just the most there's just so much like there's just
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  Speaker 2: so much compatible humor between.
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  Speaker 1: Them it's very.
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  Speaker 2: Touching it's not like every day you see a mother
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  Speaker 2: daughter like have that kind of compatible.
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  Speaker 1: Humor, no just and this episode, ESPECIALLY i just the
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  Speaker 1: zingers were flying in this. ONE i was laughing out
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  Speaker 1: loud most of.
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  Speaker 2: It, yeah there are a lot of just.
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  Speaker 1: World, yeah there were a lot of belly laughs in this. One,
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  Speaker 1: Uh luke's kind of freezing her. Out what's that, About?
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  Speaker 1: Ranie what's that? About what's he? Doing you think he's? Done,
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  Speaker 1: no because he didn't smirk after she. Left you know
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  Speaker 1: How jess always has a little smile after he does
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  Speaker 1: some manipulations On. Rory he seems the same game.
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  Speaker 2: That dry, humor, right that Dry.
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  Speaker 1: Luke but but it's like it's Not it's, LIKE i
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's he. Doing he's not giving it, away.
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  Speaker 2: So i'm not, sure totally sure what happened beforehand she.
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  Speaker 1: Did they got a huge they got a huge. Fight
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  Speaker 1: they got a huge yelling match because of the car
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  Speaker 1: accident with just driving The dean built a used car
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  Speaker 1: that he gave To. Rory they're fighting by the, kids
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  Speaker 1: they're fighting about The, yeah it was a big screaming
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  Speaker 1: match at night in front of the diner and she
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  Speaker 1: says screw you and he goes screw. You but you,
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  Speaker 1: know it was it was really. Bad it was really,
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  Speaker 1: bad and they just sort of ended their. FRIENDSHIP i
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  Speaker 1: mean they're not even speaking for for weeks and.
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  Speaker 2: They're just friends right, now that's. It but they got
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  Speaker 2: chemistry just popping off.
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  Speaker 1: The, balls. Right but the thing, is is he? Done you?
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  Speaker 1: Think does he seem like he's, Done like he's moved
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  Speaker 1: on and, like oh, NO.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's just being the bigger person in that
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  Speaker 2: interaction and he's he's graciously kind of like he's like being,
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  Speaker 2: gracious Like, OKAY i hear. You you're coming to me for,
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  Speaker 2: peace And i'm taking that in and he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: taking his time with. It that's my. Feeling that's that's
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  Speaker 2: MY i think that's WHAT i.
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  Speaker 1: Felt do you think he doesn't have the bandwidth to
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  Speaker 1: even deal with it and? Her do you think he's
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  Speaker 1: realizing this is this is just too much for?
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  Speaker 2: Me well he's a little slower moving with the whole
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  Speaker 2: movie getting over it. Thing but isn't that just men and?
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  Speaker 2: Women like she wants to she wants to apologize openly
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  Speaker 2: and make official, peace and he's, Like i'm interacting with.
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  Speaker 1: You he, is he's an. Iceberg he's.
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  Speaker 2: Slow that tells you all you need to.
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  Speaker 1: Know he's an. Iceberg he's. Slow he doesn't come around. Fast,
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  Speaker 1: yeah he's Got he thinks about it a. Lot he's
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  Speaker 1: not a. Talker he takes his. TIME i mean he, can,
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  Speaker 1: yeah but he.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem angry in that interaction to. Me he just
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  Speaker 2: kind of seems, like.
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  Speaker 1: Right well.
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  Speaker 2: Stressed, yeah, yeah, yeah it must be weird for, you
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  Speaker 2: like analyzing, it but, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No it's like a different. Person. Yeah well, yeah so long.
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  Speaker 2: Ago it's so long, ago and it wasn't actually YOU i, know, RIGHT.
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  Speaker 1: I can be, objected right.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly but it's kind of funny to talk to you
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: Guy you, know what do you think is this push
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  Speaker 1: him further away From laurala because he can't seem to
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  Speaker 1: get back to where they were?
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  Speaker 2: Before?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh does it push him away that he's not more
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  Speaker 2: receptive to, her because.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not moving, forward you're moving, backwards right in these.
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  Speaker 2: THINGS i DON'T i don't remember it being like a
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  Speaker 2: really like him shutting Her, okay so so she was,
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  Speaker 2: like this, happened let's make, peace and he was just
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, raw and she's, like, OH i Get
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  Speaker 2: i've been left, right that's kind of what.
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  Speaker 1: Happened he was Stone he wasn't even looking at her,
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  Speaker 1: practically he was just stone walling the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, Okay, WELL i assume, That. LAURA i was, thinking
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  Speaker 2: he just needs to he just needs a, Minute he
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  Speaker 2: just needs a little, space and he'll get over, it
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  Speaker 2: because obviously we both were screaming at each other about our.
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  Speaker 2: Kids BUT i don't, know she seems like a pretty patient.
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  Speaker 1: Person she is, actually isn't She she really.
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  Speaker 2: Is, yeah she's really patient and forgiving and, yes realistic
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  Speaker 2: ABOUT i THINK i don't. Know, well she's been through
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  Speaker 2: she's already been through it with men quite, young in
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  Speaker 2: a high stakes, setting and she's okay with. It she's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like found. Out it seems like that holding
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  Speaker 2: onto the holding onto anything doesn't do her any good
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  Speaker 2: because she's.
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  Speaker 1: Got stuff to, do right, Rug polls don't bother. Her
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  Speaker 1: she's been. Thrown, yeah you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get the sense that she freaks out.
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  Speaker 1: Easily been, there done. That, yeah that's to just apologize
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  Speaker 1: and apologize and apologize and hope for the best and.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, right she's done her, part and it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of those reasons why she's such a fun, character
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  Speaker 3: because she's not, boring but she's still kind Of OH
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  Speaker 3: i could use a little of.
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  Speaker 2: That not a reactive, person right, right.
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  Speaker 1: All, Right Now luke goes, upstairs she's just. THERE i love.
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  Speaker 1: This i'm. Sweet, YEAH i like the. Scene, YEAH i
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  Speaker 1: forgot about this. SCENE i forgot about this. Scene So luke, is,
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  Speaker 1: uh you, know what are you doing? Here what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? Here what'd you think of this? Scene this
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  Speaker 1: back and?
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  Speaker 2: Forth, well, YEAH i MEAN i liked it was An
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  Speaker 2: it was a window Into luke because he's this is
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  Speaker 2: how he acts when he's, hurt like get out of,
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  Speaker 2: here kind of like he just was With. LAURA i,
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  Speaker 2: like just no. Reaction but then it's like obvious he was.
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  Speaker 2: Hurt it's like you didn't you didn't do it either
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  Speaker 2: you you didn't call me or, whatever you didn't reply
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  Speaker 2: to my. Call and and then he's just like it
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  Speaker 2: was so moving When jess was, like So i'm going
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  Speaker 2: to stay, here and he's just like doesn't do. Anything
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  Speaker 2: but you can see how. Excited he is very sweet
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  Speaker 2: that he misses, him even though he acts all, gruff
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  Speaker 2: but he just loves this. Guy you, know you can
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  Speaker 2: see the love in those Little this is the a
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  Speaker 2: Nice this is HOW i like that the show has
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  Speaker 2: the moments towards the men because they sort of separate.
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  Speaker 2: SOMETIMES i feel like there's the girls and there's the,
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  Speaker 2: boys and the way that the it shows how how
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  Speaker 2: men are vulnerable and it's not the. Same so it
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  Speaker 2: was just a really, sweet, vulnerable realistic male moment and
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  Speaker 2: it must be, awful like it's kind of. That it
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  Speaker 2: was like sucteinct in that. Moment you, see, gosh how
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  Speaker 2: hard it is for him not to be with his
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  Speaker 2: son and why his son isn't with. Him you kind of,
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  Speaker 2: see well you don't see why his son isn't with,
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  Speaker 2: him but you just see that like they're not that,
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  Speaker 2: close but that there's a loss there and a desire
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  Speaker 2: for both of.
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  Speaker 1: Them he Just luke needs to be respected and he
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  Speaker 1: wants to play and he and he wants to be
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  Speaker 1: there for that. Boy you, know he really feels it
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  Speaker 1: because That's jesus last. Chance there's nobody in his life
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  Speaker 1: that's going to pull him out of his train wreck
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  Speaker 1: of his. Life, yeah so there's real compassion. There.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's so quickly shown with so little, exposition so few.
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  Speaker 2: Lines it's nice well.
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  Speaker 1: Done now this episode is just so well. Written, gosh
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  Speaker 1: is so taut and it's just so beautifully. Written, yeah
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  Speaker 1: this Is amy at her. Best this is, like this
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  Speaker 1: is like a chest hitting it out of the. Park,
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  Speaker 1: agreed boy, man.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed it was, Lovely.
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  Speaker 1: It really, was all. Right so let's get To rory In.
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  Speaker 1: Paris hilarious stuff of, them you, know and their dynamic
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  Speaker 1: And paris at her best and her worst at the
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  Speaker 1: same time at the same.
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  Speaker 2: Time, yes, right.
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  Speaker 1: But performance, wise just the whole thing was just so.
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  Speaker 1: Great all. Right, so So paris is running for student body.
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  Speaker 1: President she makes that you, Know mussolini like.
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  Speaker 2: Speech, yeah camera shotscreen, angle like all, serious.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right it was you, know they took SOME
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  Speaker 1: i THINK i Think amy took some inspiration as a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: director From. GOD i think the, candidate you, know was
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It redford and the early seventies or something late. SIXTIES
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  Speaker 1: i haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Seen, okay but it's like a it's like a suspense
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  Speaker 2: death government, movie right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah but it was just there's some some great camera. Shots,
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  Speaker 1: yes but she makes a speech and then it was,
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  Speaker 1: like you, know, crickets she sits, down she's she's not.
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  Speaker 1: Happy if you, know if they, win they they. Both
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  Speaker 1: if she, wins she gets to spend six weeks In
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  Speaker 1: washington and some junior leadership. Internship, Okay and then at the,
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  Speaker 1: Wedding paris Calls dean to talk To, rory hands over
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  Speaker 1: the phone to Tell rory they won And rory is
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  Speaker 1: the vice. President she will be vice. President so If
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  Speaker 1: paris is assassinated or falls, ill Then rory will be the.
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  Speaker 1: President love love the, guilting the guilt, speech, like, hey
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  Speaker 1: you know you want this to be the thing that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get you Into harvard when you would have lived
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  Speaker 1: your whole life regret and you're gonna be In Connecticut
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  Speaker 1: state and you could have been At.
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  Speaker 2: HARVARD i, know you see the wheels of greatness turning
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  Speaker 2: In paris's, head like you see the master manipulator just.
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  Speaker 1: By so Obviously paris is, insecure she doesn't know what
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna. Win she Needs. RORY i liked.
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  Speaker 2: HOW i liked. That it's like there's that kind of
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  Speaker 2: poignant moment in a young woman's life when, like you
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  Speaker 2: realize that life isn't, fair but you didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Before so it's, Like i'm the, BEST i have the
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  Speaker 2: best to. Offer i'm doing the best. Work and then it's,
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  Speaker 2: like but that's not what people want from. You that's.
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  Speaker 2: Hard that's a hard pill to swallow from someone who
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  Speaker 2: cares so. Much SO I i related to. THAT i liked.
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  Speaker 2: THAT i thought that was that was sweet and made
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  Speaker 2: me like her more.
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  Speaker 1: Basic human. Psychology it's tough growing. Up what a funny
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  Speaker 1: scene that she pulled well in two, areas but in, Likability, no.
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  Speaker 2: The two cutest girls on the planet just.
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  Speaker 1: Like, right, yeah like and Then paris, says, uh you, Know,
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  Speaker 1: louise get on that right away like.
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  Speaker 2: Hers it's just it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Weird and, right like create a, scandal create a scandal
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  Speaker 1: with the other male, candidate bring them, DOWN i.
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  Speaker 2: Know and then she's just like she's back to being
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  Speaker 2: ruthless and.
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  Speaker 1: Right i'm on. It oh my.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh so it's like these moments where, YOU i like
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  Speaker 2: how they make you care about, her and then you're, Like,
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  Speaker 2: okay she's all, right she doesn't need my concern at.
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  Speaker 1: All, right, Exactly so it looks like opposites are attracting
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  Speaker 1: here with these. Two ah, yeah a relationship made in. Heaven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah They it's Like paris really Respects rory and is
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  Speaker 2: just kind of feel sorry for. Her But i'm sure
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  Speaker 2: she respects some things about. Her but like it's it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of they definitely have certain interest in. Common it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: Sweet they need each other in a, way Like rory
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  Speaker 2: gets to sort of, WELL i Think roy just feels,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: bad but that matters to. Her she has to be
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a good. Person that's like important to her to not
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: make people feel.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Bad rory is To paris As luke is To. Jess
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of. Compassion there a lot of.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Chaos, yeah she's like her.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Parent yeah, yeah somebody's got a, razor, Right.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's a good. Point it is a sort
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of yeah, caretaker yeah, yah which is sweet too because
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they're just little little. Ladies they're little, kids and it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like it's like it's also it's also real for, them you,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: know it's a big. Deal all of, it all.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: These, dynamics all, Right laura And. Christopher there was a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: lot Of, christopher a lot Of LAUREL i in THIS
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: i can't be objective, Here but what did you think of? This?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: WELL i like my first thought was how Sweet laura
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And christopher were as, Friends that they have an obvious
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: physical chemistry just based on the, past but that they
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: were both kind of okay with, it like they could
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: rise above. It when he was spoken for in the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: beginning and And LAURA i was just, LIKE i don't,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: know she was just his, friend but there was a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: really nice energy between, them and it just seemed like
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: they were kind of nailing the whole co parenting the.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Best it was like the best scenario because they were
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: both just being they were both coming from a place
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: of thinking the best of each. Other and then the,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: CHEMISTRY i could see how that would happen because they
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: do have, chemistry and there is the, past and he just.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Seems to, me does he seem to you like he
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: he comes off so much younger Than. LAURA i, yeah
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: so less, capable so much. YOUNGER i, MEAN i know
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the same, age but he comes off like, he's you,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: know five to seven years, younger and.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: He's, yes well he's the guy that he. Was he hasn't, changed, right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Right that's the that's the immature.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Guy, yeah and she's always loved him because of their
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: nice chemistry and because of the good vibes between, them
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but he always lets her down because that's how he.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Is, yeah this is a big one.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Thought oh, YEAH i was, like oh and he had
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: to do it? Right why she walks down the, Aisle
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that's like it couldn't wait ten? Minutes. Whoa that's when
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: you really Respect LAURA, i because she's just, Like, okay
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: have a great. Baby, wow that's a sure.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Lady right? Right what else can you? SAY i, mean
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: these guys are, now they're. Intimate you, know they're together.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Again everybody's.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Happy everybody's so. HAPPY i Mean rory just like The
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Rory park is, like why did they make this huge
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: announcement like one day after they got together for one?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Night like that seemed a little. Premature they could have
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: waited a. Minute there was that like they made this
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: huge national announcement at the, Wedding like, WELL i mean
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: they told several people where it's like it could be
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: wise to take a little. Time BUT i guess they
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: just were. BOTH i Think LAURA i was the one
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: who was just like so. Trusting she had to get
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: hurt again to sort of slow. Down, maybe but he's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just the one who's like more impulsive. Anyway. Maybe. Well oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: yeah it was Very it didn't feel. Unrealistic though it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: felt like things like, this it seemed like it wasn't like.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable it was just more. Information mm.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Hm tough to. Watch whole thing was tough to.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Watch but that's why it was so hard to, watch
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: because it was like you could see the best and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the worst of. EVERYBODY i, mean he didn't just like
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: change his mind for no. Reason it was a legitimate.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Reason he just didn't handle it too.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Well it's just such A i, mean his his. Character you,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: know it's LIKE i, know he's not. Cheating he's like
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: With LAUREL, i which you know he gets he gets
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a pass for for some reason because It's LAUREL, I.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Right everybody Wants laurela to be, happy so they have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this blind. Spot, yeah what does can pontentially do to? Her?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Again and this guy he just when she, said when
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he turned around for the last time and looked at
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: her and he was depressed that he had to leave
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: because his girlfriend was pregnant with his. Kid oh, yeah
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: so he's got so. Much how do you how do
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you even come. Back, wow, guy go take care of your.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Kid you got a baby, coming you. Know oh my,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: God oh, terrible, terrible. Terrible that was.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Awful but that's a big, episode.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So, right you have to have.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It, yeah and it makes you love lauralit, more which is.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: COOL i, mean it's just, deeper it goes deep. Whatever but,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: YEAH i did want to punch him in the. Face
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: BUT i wanted to punch him in the face immediately
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: because he was just a little too familiar WITH i don't,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: KNOW i just, well you worry right away that he's
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: being a little irresponsible when he's, like should we just
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: make out on this?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Couch right when he sat down with the arm and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: then she leaned back on his, arm and it was, like,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: whoa this is a little too much, hair right too.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Fast you, worry, RIGHT i MEAN i worried right. Away
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: but THEN i was, like, well, look they really care
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: about each, other AND i, mean this is how these
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: things sometimes, happened so maybe and then it's like and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: then they sit down and talk about it and it
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: all looks really of off, board and the worry was
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the right. One but she would never have, KNOWN i,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: guess because they hadn't really revisited this since What roy was.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Born, YEAH i. GUESS i, mean haven't they flirted? AROUND
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: i can't even, remember don't. Know it's like this guy's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: always digging, around, right and he's looking for an, opportunity rooting,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: around showing, up.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Just showing up and rooting, around.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Showing up in his, shirts my.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Shirts look at, ME i have a. Shirt look at.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Me i'm. Back it's on. Touck i'm. Casual, Now i'm so.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Casual i'm amazing Because i'm even here at. All, like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And rory's also so mature because she's just like so
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: kind with him and expects, nothing but she's so happy
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: for what he has to. Bring she's just a really
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: lovely little child of. Divorce you, know we're not.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Divorce you, know we skipped over that one scene THAT
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: i thought was so. Funny you, know they went To
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: friday night dinner And emily was offended at the when's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the wedding a week from? Now she, Could, oh so
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it's a pity. Invite so the whole pity invite thing was.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Great and Then Laurel laurelai trying to change the. Subjects
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this isn't doesn't.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Again it was like you see all, that like how
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: they they work together as a, team as a, Team
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: richard And emily worked together as a team because they're
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: both like right on the same page. Too he's like
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: that was a pity in, Fight they're, like, wow they're
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: really hooked up, Too like it's, nice it's kind of.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Sweet everybody's so close in their. Corners it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Was it was very funny When emily showed up at
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the wedding And laurela's questioning, her And emily, says, well
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it would have been equally as rude not to show
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: up knowing that we didn't have anything else to. Do
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that's called rising, above but be condescending her own daughter
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: by saying that's called rising.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Above so fun she really.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Is and so pretty and like put. TOGETHER i just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: like WHENEVER i see her after not seeing her for a,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: while and she's so pretty and, right everything is just
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: you just like where of me wants to be like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that you, know and so just.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Spicy is there a part of you that wishes that
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: That lorela had fought harder instead of just sort of
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: accepting it and being so classy about, it you?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Know The christopher thing, no, no The christopher, thing or
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: does that make her look?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: BAD i think your average woman would have at least
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: thrown a little, tantrum made it about, herself and possibly
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: drawn this focus from the bride and felt stupid about it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Later so she did the best. Thing she just. Had, like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: really maybe she's been through enough that she knows and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's just Being emily's. Daughter she knows how
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to how to have dignity in the face of. Indignity
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: but uh, NO i. DON'T i. DON'T i think she
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: knows him well enough that and she doesn't want him
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: there because she yelled at. Him she wants him there
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: because he wants to be, there and she wants to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: let him maybe have the consequences of his own, choices so,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: that you, know let him say with that without her
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: harping voice in his ear to. Blame, NO i doubt
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that was. WHAT i doubt that was really her forethought about.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It but you, know here's a. Thought maybe she didn't
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: fight for him because she knew in her heart of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: hearts that he was not capable of balancing his own
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: family and also being there For, rory so she just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: gave him. Up it's like just go do that because he.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Leaves confirmation of her, fear her worries maybe right, right
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: it's like maybe he's. Changed and then she's, like oh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: god she hasn't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Changed, right same old.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah and he says to, her you KNOW i.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: DIDN'T i wasn't here for. Worry it's just like that's
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the whole. Point but she's, like that's, Okay i'd be
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: there for someone else's. Baby but, okay you, know it's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like ouch, ouch and she didn't show, it so you.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Don't it's almost like you feel her pain more because she.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Didn't you. Know he just is not good at, life is?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: He he's he's not very good at. Life so there they,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: are both women are women are standing there heartbroken over
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: what just.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Happened OH i.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Know just then they start stepping toward the. Wedding it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a it's a contrast that is uh quite beautiful for
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a season. Finale oh, yeah it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Was it was sort of like the in the sadness
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: moment mixed dramatic.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Moments. Funny where would you rank this in your season
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: finale FOR tv, shows other shows that you're fond? Of
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: what do you think of this as a.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: SEASON i can't think of a single other season well
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: CAN i nothing's coming to mind of a season finale in.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Particular but those are had some good ones you See
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: did you see?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Those AREN'T i don't remember IF i saw a. SEASON
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: i saw some, episodes BUT i don't have a memory
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of the SEASON i, REMEMBER i don't. Know it's like
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a really bad, memory like very shoddy pieces of. Memory
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: so WHAT i can say is that it's up there
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: now and and there's really nothing wrong with it in my.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Opinion SO i don't think we'll say season finales or
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: any episode. EVER i don't think things that you that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: feel like they were really just spot on are, common
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and so it's hard to it's nice to really give
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: credit to that because it's sort of like hard to
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: imagine how difficult it is to really pull that off
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: because so much isn't good.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well whether whether it's a finale or. Not it. Was
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it was one of my. Favorites great episode executed on every.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Level just just a great one to rewatch and rewatch.
• 32:23
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• 32:26
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• 32:30
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