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Vikings Uncensored: Sir Picasso's Impact, and Future Strategies · Scene Projects Sports Network

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This is Vikings uncensored, where fans can be fans, unfiltered, unhinged, and uncensored.
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Welcome in, everyone, to our very first episode of Vikings Uncensored.
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I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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And with me, as always, is my boy, coach Cody.
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Coach, welcome to the show.
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How we doing, man?
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Man, we got some really special guests.
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Sir Picasso's in the house tonight.
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We're gonna bring him on in just a second.
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He's painting away on Facebook and also in real life, working on some canvases.
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We're gonna share some of his awesome stuff.
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They just had a big event with Aaron Jones last night, so we're gonna bring him on to talk
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about all of that in just a few minutes here.
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But, coach, what a stinker on Sunday.
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Man, that was unbelievable.
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Just everything start to finish.
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Well, it didn't start out that bad.
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I'm not gonna be gonna lie, but just ending in a shutout, come on now.
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Like
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Like, at some point, just kick the kick the field goal.
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Take the points.
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Right?
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Take the points.
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Get the goose egg off the board.
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And at least there's one less thing to talk about, right, over the course of the week
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because there was so much bad, but oh my goodness.
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I'm glad I wasn't watching.
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I was in the car listening.
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What was the worst part was that I had walked out right as, they recovered the strip sack.
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So I'm, like, leaving, walking out the door.
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By the time I got to the edge of my tiny town, I turn on the radio.
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I get K fan on, Paul Allen's like, well, it's ten to nothing.
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And I'm like, well, we just recovered a fumble at the twenty.
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What are you talking about?
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But, yeah, it is what it is.
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This is a place for all of us to commiserate over what has been an absolutely failed season
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for the Minnesota Vikings.
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Obviously, for some of you fans, we do a pregame show two hours before every game.
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Coach Cody, former GM and head coach of the Saint Paul bears, now working with the Wyoming
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cavalry.
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He brings in the, the analysis and the deep football stuff.
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I'm just a guy who likes football and really appreciates the fans of football teams.
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And, speaking of fans and and big super fans, member of the Viking World Order, let's bring
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on sir Picasso here, better known as Darth Viking to most.
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What's happening, buddy?
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How are doing tonight?
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Man, what's good?
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What's good?
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How are you feeling, man?
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Yeah.
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I was just tuning into your live a few minutes ago, and now here we are on my live.
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That's we just live in front of camera these days.
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Man, so you are.
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I mean, if you go to promote yourself.
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Right?
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That's we're in a we're in a age of social media.
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And so, yeah, I felt bad.
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Like, I actually shut my live off because my boys called.
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And it was just well, one of my sons called me, so I'm like, fuck.
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I better go back on quick because there was a couple people who were, you know, kinda vibing
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out.
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And and so yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'll give you a little glimpse.
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So I'm working on a custom one of a kind three deep like you've never seen before.
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I'm not gonna give away the the overall of this canvas, the the subject, but it is it is it is
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going to j.
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This will be getting placed all over the how do I turn my camera around?
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Oh, that
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Oops.
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I had to put I to put my flat bill on here too.
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We'll see if he can get his camera flipped around.
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He's back.
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There so how do I turn my camera around?
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You might have to just turn your phone around.
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Alright.
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I'll do that.
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Are you there?
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Can be done.
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So at the very bottom of my screen, it shows, a refresh thing.
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So I'm like, oh, that that must be it.
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That's not it.
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So this is all spray painted.
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You're so freaking unreal, man.
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So this is literally nine by 10 inches on an 18 by 24 canvas.
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It turned out dope.
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I'm gonna show you one of my favorite I shoulda had this all set up.
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But like you said, I was live trying to show off what I'm doing, and I'm painting, and I got
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stuff going on in my own world right now.
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No mother's switch.
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I'll let there be love.
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I mean, we got bro, we got stuff signed by like, I've done work for Mike Tyson.
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Oh, man.
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So if we have any boxing fans in there, this is a two foot by three foot canvas.
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It is the number one of two.
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Mike Tyson owns the number two.
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Mike owns the number two, bro.
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I couldn't I couldn't give him the number one.
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No.
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You can't give up the number one.
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I was like, it's for me, though, being a fan, bro, I'm telling you, like, it was super cool
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for that.
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Man, I got everything from we got stormtroopers.
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I got a number 405 Alexander Madison left.
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We got some ninja turtles.
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Those are sick.
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Man.
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Unreal.
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Right, coach?
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Honestly.
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Honestly.
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I have a
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Justin like, I go by Sir Picasso.
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I have a Justin Jefferson Picasso format.
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I
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gotta give me one of them.
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I gotta give me one of them.
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Oh, yeah.
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All you gotta do is shoot me a message, and I'll I'll hit you up with this one right here,
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bro.
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Let
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me Alright.
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So right no.
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But right now so 16 by 20, that's 400.
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They go for $400.
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Yeah.
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That's still stealing.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's a it's a it's a one of a kind.
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We got some Nasrid.
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They
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look like photographs.
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Yeah.
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Posters.
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Right?
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So yeah.
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You're so good, man.
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It blows
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me up.
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Dude, this is one of my favorites.
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This is an old one.
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I did this seven years ago.
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Right?
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Bob Lurzema.
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Hey, bugging benchwarmer Bob, bro.
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He's, bugging how great is that?
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I had to bust my flat bill out because I know you're always rocking some sick headgear.
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You had the pink one on the other day.
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That was that one's awesome.
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So I have 230 of them.
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Man, put me the same.
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I guess metallic gold, one of a kind, 12 inch autograph, Jordan Addison.
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He told me flat out this was the biggest autograph he's ever done.
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It's got that metallic gold inside.
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Oh, man.
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And here's the kicker, bro.
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It don't even have to be sports, coach.
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Picture you and your family, your pet.
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I could paint anything, bro.
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You want your kid to look like fucking Spider Man?
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I could put Captain America.
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Alright.
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Love it.
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Oh, yeah.
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We're we're definitely gonna have to experiment.
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Yeah.
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Well and we always I I what I love is that you're always doing stuff for charity, and
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that's what really attracted me to you and Shelley and the Viking World Order everything
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that you guys do.
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Here, wanna show off the one that you did last night.
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So there's the one that they auctioned off last night, guys.
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My guy, Alvin Jones.
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Oh, that was, Aaron Jones on that one.
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Yeah?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So cool, man.
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So you guys auction this one off live.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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So they actually reached out to me last week, Friday.
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I'm working on this.
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I was finishing up another Canvas, and they're like, oh, we really want you to do something
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live at the new the new Topgolf in Woodbury.
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And I'm like, I can't I can't spray live.
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I wear a respirator to protect myself.
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So and then also this is like, I know how Topgolf is.
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Like, this is it's ink it's close proximity.
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Right?
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So spray paint can still stick to you, and I don't want anybody else dealing with any of
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that.
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But I'm like, I can paint something and bring it with.
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Yeah.
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If you think you'll have time.
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I painted that canvas in three days.
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That's Oh, wow.
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While working on this too.
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I got and so this is a this is a branding deal.
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Right?
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So if you wanna do branding, you actually out of the deal, you get two eighteen by 24
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canvases.
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You'll be able to keep one for yourself.
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Each one's gonna be completely different, but you would keep one for yourself.
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And then the other one you would use because the background would have a softer tone, you
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can use the color.
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You can use the portrait for clothing, for posters, for you own the rough, whatever you
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want, whatever you want to put it on and sell.
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That's up to you.
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You've purchased that right.
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So each canvas is gonna be different.
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So when I say I'm working on this, I'm working on this.
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I got the other one right there.
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Just one step ahead of it.
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And so I'm always multitasking, bro.
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And then, like you said, like, to be able to do something that for, last night's event was for
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their all the way foundation.
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And I kind of boasted a little bit That canvas right there, live auctioned over everything
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else that they had, and that canvas sold for more than a Speedflex Justin Jefferson helmet,
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full size.
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So
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Okay.
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Go crazy.
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I was yeah.
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That's kinda like I was going, come on now.
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Really?
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I was shocked to find that out.
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But it was really cool because, so Alvin and Aaron are twins.
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Alvin played for the Ravens, and he was on some he was on another team too, wouldn't he?
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But he don't I don't think he plays anymore, but it was also it's their birthday today.
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So, yeah, that was one of my pictures of it because it's, like, bright.
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You can see everything in it, man.
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Like, it just the canvas itself, like, screams showtime.
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Mhmm.
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I incorporated pops.
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You know, he lost his father, so I incorporated that on in the wristband.
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Also, in the helmet in the bottom corner, it's got a German flag.
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Like his mom, they're for the military family.
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So and they were stationed in Germany.
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So that that kinda touch base has a little home plate for him.
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So I wanted to make things really personal for him.
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But, yeah, for Alvin to purchase that canvas for his mom was dope.
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Like, I was I was kinda telling people on my life, like, just to kinda set up the ambiance
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is it was literally in Topgolf before you go out on a tier.
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If you ever been there, like, on the tier where you tee off and play, it's kinda like just a
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little clubhouse on the inside.
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Right?
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And Aaron Jones and Alvin just showed up.
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So everybody who was already there is now in the midst of this little area.
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So that's how loud, like, people are talking.
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They're trying to get his attention.
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And my wife got a cool video.
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We I think we posted it, but, Alvin went and brought Aaron over to show him the Canvas.
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And so I hadn't had a word of him yet, and I had no idea.
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My wife was recording.
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So I had just walked over, and he was showing him.
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He's like, yeah.
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That's the guy.
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So Alvin Aaron just comes up and kinda dabs me up.
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And I kinda asked him.
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I'm like, you remember me, and you can see him be like, yeah.
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Like, so and then they had this whole thing.
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But over my shoulder, I hear the lady who's putting it on, Carly, telling his mom, oh,
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that's the guy who painted it.
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She goes, that's so beautiful.
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And then Alvin, like, kinda hits me.
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He's like, I'm like, I gotta get this for moms.
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So they ended up buying that canvas for their mom.
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That's awesome.
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It was Yeah.
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And all the money goes to charity, and it's just so cool, man, that you use these talents
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that you've been given to just do so much good in the world and to get these kind of crazy
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opportunities.
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I mean, you've done
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Yeah.
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You know, obviously, you showed us the Mike Tyson one, and, I mean, there's stuff that you
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can't tell us about.
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People you've met and commission pieces that you've done.
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You know?
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I've seen a couple of your you you had to rent a truck or, like, damn near had to rent a U
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Haul to get one of these out, didn't you?
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I I actually rented a Jeep Wagoneer, and I did we did a little bit of research to make sure it
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was wide enough because this local this company out of Mankato commissioned four four foot by
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five foot canvases, all at different individual images, from Justin Jefferson, Randy Moss, and
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Kevin Garnett, you know, the sports swap photo, Kirby Puckett, and then a Minnesota miracle.
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But to get all of those canvases to fit in a vehicle, I'm sitting there going, okay.
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So we were originally going to rent a U Haul as well because in my mind, I would just get some
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Styrofoam, place them up against the wall, and we just ratchet strap them to the walls.
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Right?
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But then I'm like, oh, okay.
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Well, she I'm not going.
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Then I'm looking at U Haul prices.
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No disrespect, but I'm not paying for your mileage and the vehicle.
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It's just cheaper for me to rent a truck.
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And I go, well, let's rent a Suburban or something, and we called locally.
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They didn't have one.
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Oh, we got a Jeep Wagon here.
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And I remember when my buddy Eric flew in from Jersey, they rented one.
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That thing is huge, bro.
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And when I tell you this third row, everything laid down, these four foot these canvases fit
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just snug.
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Like, just like when the door closes, it was, like, nestled the canvases in.
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Like, it was perfect.
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But on top of those four big ass canvases, they also had seven sixteen by twenties.
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So that was dope.
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Yeah.
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Those those came out fire.
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And my wife, Shelley, did a phenomenal job with the she does it like she's playing with AI and
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doing videos, and, man, they're they're incredible.
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Last night's event, you know, right now I'm doing a super fans calendar, right, to raise
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money for veterans.
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And little segue, Aaron Jones, I brought two calendars up there to him.
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I'm like, look.
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Can you sign these for me?
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So I'm gonna sell them to make more money for my cherry.
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He's like, what?
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Okay.
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I'm like, I just wanna be honest with him.
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I'm not keeping it.
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I I sell to me, it's just cool having that experience of what I what I went through last
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night.
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But if I can use something like this calendar, like so regular wall calendars are $30 apiece,
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but a autograph one of a kind Aaron Jones.
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This is the only one.
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Right?
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I got some signed by TJ Hockinson who is a sponsor of our pillars of valor.
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He is a partner with that company to raise money for veterans.
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I got four five of these.
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I'm down to one left, but there is only one Aaron Jones one, bro.
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You know what I mean?
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Like so if you're a collector, I like the things that nobody has, the rare things.
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But if if I can combine what I do with my rarity because nobody spray paints on canvas,
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nobody's you know, you don't get to get a random calendar sign.
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I will.
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I don't want something that you have.
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Yeah.
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Live life one of a kind.
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I I love I love the motto, man.
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I I can't let you take all the spotlight.
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We gotta feature the women of the North too.
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So it's kind of a a competition between
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I have one too.
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Oh.
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You.
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You got one too here.
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Oh.
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I I stole some pictures off of Shelley's Facebook before I jumped on tonight.
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And, yeah, I just love what you guys are doing with this.
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And it heard earlier too.
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Well and it's so cool because you get the Oof.
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Yeah.
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I will show I'll show you.
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So, Devin
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Here.
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I'm a give you the stage.
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Yeah.
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Celebrity.
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Right?
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So this is January.
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This is how glossy this page.
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Like, it's these pictures are so freaking cool clean-cut.
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You could see every reflection.
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I apologize for my tablet being in the background.
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No.
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So the wall like I said, wallpaper the wall calendars are $30.
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She has desktop calendars.
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They're four by eight.
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These things are super slick.
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Pop into place.
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Set it on your desk.
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There you go.
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Switch it every month.
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You get to see some of those cool super fans.
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Like myself, we dress up I dress up as, Darth Viking.
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I can show you that one, but like I said, if you wanna see some of the other ones So this is
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how the wall calendar will look.
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Man, see that they are glossy.
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Holy shit.
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Almost can't even see
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it on.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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Like, it reflects its own TV.
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They're on my phone.
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But that's what I mean, man.
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These things are sharp.
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Anything we're gonna put our name on, bro, is gonna be good quality.
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So and I like I said, we do a lot of donating whether I'm, you know, somebody's going through
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some tough times and, you know, they've reached out about raffling off a canvas or you know?
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So that's what I was gonna tell you too.
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Like, if that Justin Jefferson, sir Picasso the Picasso one right there, I've already said that
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I'm gonna, like, raffle that off for a buddy of mine whose son is going through, he just had
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two brain surgeries, and he's in the hospital now because of swelling in his brain.
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So I have to drain it out, and it's a it's a process, bro.
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But even worse, like, it's it's costly.
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You know?
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And this is his kid.
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He's 23 years old.
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He's a great kid.
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So that's why he said, if you wanna purchase that, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you his PayPal,
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and I want you to send him the money.
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I'll mail you to Canvas.
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Alright.
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Bet.
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I just try to help other people out, man.
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And if I if I can do it just one shot, like, just give him something that's gonna give him a
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peace of mind that covers at least one portion of the medical bill for this month, then, you
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know, it takes a little bit off of his back, and I know the stress that he's got.
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I got kids, bro.
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Anybody coach, I don't know if you got kids.
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Bobby, know, it's just like, could you imagine your son having to have brain surgery and then
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having to go back in and then finding out you gotta go back to the hospital because it's
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swelling?
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He's not like, his speech, he's not he just wasn't doing good.
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And so he's getting better, but it it's things like that that break my heart, and I just try
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to, you know, help as many people as I can.
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And it's not about money with me with painting.
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I guess so many people that, you know, they see what I do and think that I should be blown up.
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But I feel
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like And, honestly, if you had, like, an agent, coach Vincent Fortner Bay says, what's up,
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coach Cody?
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What's going on, coach?
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So you probably can't see all the comments as they come in, but that you could.
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Right?
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Like, if you had an agent and you wanted to go live in just the art world and sell your
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paintings for like, bro, your stuff is stuff is unbelievable.
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I've seen a lot of art in my life.
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I've never seen anything like what you've done.
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And and you've probably given away more money and, you know, like, than some people make in a
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year.
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Right?
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Like, that you give away an art by making things available, whatever it might be.
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That's what really attracted me to you and Shelley and the VWO.
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Obviously, sir Death has a massive platform online on the social media.
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He's always trying to, you know not necessarily starting all these charities, but I know a lot
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of people gotta come to him and say, hey, man.
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Can you can you blast this link?
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Like, skulls
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Oh my god.
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Mistakes.
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Right?
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You know, it's an it's nothing for me to share it, and that's kinda why I was so attracted to
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you guys.
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We were up there for the Whiteout game last year and getting to meet everyone, and
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everyone's dressed up.
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And I just such a high vibe.
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Last year's vibes around this team were a lot different.
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Right?
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So it was coming in
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to the
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Whiteout game Monday night against the bears and getting to experience all of that.
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It just was like, man, I'd I'll give up everything to be part of this crew.
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You know?
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And that's that was a big factor for me wanting to do, you know, the pregame show and now
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moving into this during the week where we actually have a chance to talk.
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Game day for you and for everybody else is busy.
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You know?
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And unless we can start to do the pregame show at the tailgate, we ain't gonna see a lot of
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you on on the program.
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So it it was nice to get you on tonight.
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I know you're busy.
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I don't wanna keep you too long, but can you tell everybody where they can get the calendars
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and everything before I let you out of here?
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Oh, yes.
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Just go you just shoot me a message either on, preferably on, my Marcus with my personal page.
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You could shoot me a message.
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But I have Venmo, PayPal, Cash App, and it's all my Venmo is painting away, and my Cash App
25:06
is painting away, a w e y h.
25:10
So, I mean, you know, like I said, 100% of these wall counters go to support veterans and
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pillars of valor.
25:18
You could check out the pillars of valor page.
25:21
You can see that it's a 100%.
25:22
Everything is like, they have to be legit for me to wanna mess with you know, to try and
25:26
promote you.
25:27
Yep.
25:27
Or even
25:28
put my name aside.
25:30
We've reached out to Zach as well, getting ahold of him to do some more stuff.
25:34
Obviously, veterans, you know, you can see the banner behind me, Operation Combatic Veterans.
25:38
Zach's a great dude, bro.
25:40
Yeah.
25:41
Well and I'm looking forward to it.
25:42
I know in the season, and they got so much stuff going on.
25:45
Hawk's doing a lot of things with them, and I I know he's busy.
25:49
But after this season or hopefully, you know, towards the end of the year, we can get
25:53
together and, yeah, continue doing exactly what we're doing right now, man.
25:58
Raising awareness, raising money for charity, and it just, like I mean, add Infinitum.
26:03
Right?
26:03
Like, keep this going.
26:05
If we all can do this for the rest of our lives, I I think we'd be really happy, man.
26:08
So, Marcus, I appreciate you jumping on with us tonight, man.
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I know you're a busy man, and you're doing your thing, but I appreciate you.
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Sir.
26:16
Alright, y'all.
26:17
I appreciate you.
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Yeah.
26:19
I'm a I'm a watch for a little bit, but, yeah, I'm a get back to work.
26:22
Cool, man.
26:22
We're gonna talk some ball and commiserate a little bit here with our fans too.
26:27
So that's sir Picasso.
26:29
Hey.
26:29
Don't ever give up hope on the Vikings, bro.
26:31
Just be patient.
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Yeah.
26:33
I grew up a Cubs fan, man.
26:35
I'm flush on patience.
26:37
See?
26:39
But I but real shit, like, I just say real quick, I, people are always they're they're so
26:44
quick to give up on McCarthy.
26:47
They're so quick to get a look.
26:48
We drafted them for a reason.
26:51
Right?
26:51
Everybody has bad days, and people gotta remember too.
26:54
These guys are 20 years old.
26:56
20.
26:57
Half these half the people I talked to, my age are in their forties, fifties years old.
27:02
I'm going, bro, were you great at what you did at 20 years old?
27:05
Shut up.
27:08
Let the man and also here's the difference.
27:10
You were just at work punching a clock.
27:12
He's trying not to get his clock punched by a fucking six four, three hundred and fifty pound
27:17
linebacker.
27:17
By an animal.
27:18
K?
27:19
Like that.
27:20
Like that.
27:21
Let's breathe.
27:22
Let's give the man let's give some man some patience.
27:24
Let's go.
27:25
He's looking fine.
27:26
Awesome, Marcus.
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I appreciate you, man.
27:29
We're gonna see you around, and I I hope you get a chance to dip back in with us.
27:33
You know, obviously, not every week is a possibility, but I'd love to get Shelley on
27:37
sometime too and promote the women of the North calendar some more and all that.
27:41
I know she's got a secret Santa coming up too.
27:44
So I got a Always
27:46
something, bro.
27:47
Always something, man.
27:48
I love it.
27:48
It never ends.
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Yes, sir.
27:50
That's sir Picasso, Marcus Way painting away on all the social media you find him.
27:57
Awesome, man.
27:58
So cool.
27:59
That that's why I started this show.
28:02
That's why I was so mean, yeah, we can talk ball.
28:04
There's plenty of other shows that talk ball, but, I've been very fortunate to meet, you
28:09
know, hanging out at the Viking World Order tailgate, seeing these super fans, and seeing
28:14
what they were about, which was, helping the less fortunate no matter who that is.
28:19
Right?
28:20
It's not just one charity that they're helping it.
28:22
It's dozens or, you know, hundreds of them over the course of time.
28:27
And, it it really drove home to me that, like, yeah, we all love football.
28:32
We love this team, but it's about more than football.
28:36
And I think that, you know, you're a great example of that too, and what really attracted
28:40
me to you was that you're about helping young men and helping young men grow and especially
28:47
working in, you know, the indoor football leagues or, you know, these smaller leagues.
28:52
You still got guys that are chasing a dream to maybe get to the NFL or or to to keep playing
28:57
in general and to keep playing ball.
29:00
Can you talk a little bit about your experience as a coach?
29:04
And to give our fans, since it's not a game day and there ain't a whole lot to talk about
29:08
football wise with this team right now, I wanna give you a little bit to share, you know, a
29:12
little bit of your story, coach.
29:15
Well, I mean yeah.
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I mean, I just I love helping helping other people.
29:21
You know?
29:22
As a football coach, yeah, I wanna, you know, grow and succeed and elevate myself, but I want
29:30
my players to go further and beyond.
29:33
You know, that's just that's that should be a coach's mindset no matter what.
29:39
You know, putting the players first.
29:42
You know, I I love all my players, literally every single one of them.
29:47
You know, we do we're doing this together.
29:50
We're fighting together.
29:52
You know, I'm I know I'm not on the field, but I'm doing everything I can to help them, every
29:58
time, every game, every down.
30:01
You know?
30:02
And and I'm excited for what's to come.
30:05
You know?
30:05
I just I know I've got, you know, one player, formerly, from the Saint Paul Bears, and, you
30:12
know, he's gonna be playing in the a f one.
30:14
I got many more on the way.
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It's just a matter of time.
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And that's just, you know, just seeing their growth, you know, over the years.
30:23
That makes me so happy.
30:26
You know, almost like a job well done type of thing.
30:28
But, you know, there's more more players out there.
30:31
And, you know, this these smaller leagues, these developmental leagues, you know, there's,
30:37
you know, never say never type of thing.
30:39
Like, there's always a way.
30:41
No matter what, there's always a way.
30:42
Kurt Warner back in the day, you know, he took a unorthodox, route to the NFL and made a
30:50
career out of it, a really great career out of it.
30:53
You know?
30:54
So, yeah, just, you know, just if you want it bad enough, you know, you'll do what you need
31:00
to.
31:01
You'll go through where whatever you have to go through in order to get it.
31:05
So I just want
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some of those players.
31:07
We got one of your one of your former players and a friend of yours, I know, but it's Jameis
31:12
Neal chiming in with the go pack go, get that nonsense out of here, man.
31:18
Oh, man.
31:18
Jameis.
31:19
Oh, man.
31:21
Killer.
31:21
He's a killer on the field.
31:23
He's he's the dog linebacker.
31:25
But, yeah, you can get that you can take that pack shit and get out of here.
31:32
I've Tony Hicks commented earlier.
31:34
I didn't wanna put it up while, while Marcus was here, but I think this is exactly how we
31:38
all feel about the Viking season right now.
31:43
Yeah.
31:44
It pretty much sums it up.
31:45
I mean You
31:45
you you took the uncensored straight to the max.
31:49
I appreciate that, Tony.
31:50
Thanks for tuning in.
31:51
Yes, sir.
31:53
Oh, man.
31:54
That's basically how I feel.
31:56
Know, I don't have any any backings.
31:58
When Max threw that ball off.
32:02
Know, I'm not I'm not even mad at that.
32:06
I'm more mad at the fact that, you know, at that point in the game, you would take them
32:11
points.
32:12
You know?
32:12
You'd know you're playing against Sam Darnold.
32:14
You know what kind of quarterback he is.
32:16
We're our defense came to play.
32:18
You know?
32:19
And you take the points.
32:20
That way, you're not playing from behind, and you don't have to get away from the run.
32:24
What did we run?
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Six times?
32:26
That's oh, man.
32:27
That made me wanna puke.
32:29
Unbelievable.
32:30
Unbelievable.
32:32
Help your guy out.
32:33
You know?
32:34
Right.
32:34
And, well, it would have tied the game up, man.
32:36
An easy chip shot ties the game, and it just has such a different feel to it.
32:41
And you talked about something when you were talking about your experience about the coach
32:44
should be there to make his players better.
32:47
And I just feel like what's been exposed over this season is Kevin O'Connell's stubbornness
32:54
and refusal to do that.
32:57
Now a lot of people that don't know about, you know, my history I grew up.
33:02
My family's from Chicago.
33:03
I grew up rooting for the bears my whole life.
33:06
It was last season when they were in the dumps, but I watched that team quit.
33:09
Right?
33:09
And I was finally like, man, I've given this team so much of my time and attention, and
33:14
these grown ass men out here making millions of dollars just just laid down.
33:19
Right?
33:20
And I've never seen that from this Vikings team.
33:22
And I know we may see that moving through the rest of the season.
33:26
I don't think so.
33:27
But one thing that my good buddy, Draft Doctor Phil, on their show, keeping it 100 on the tape
33:33
never lies network, he would always say, and he was you know, obviously, the bears had a lot of
33:38
turmoil last year with coaching and rollover.
33:40
And but you have to the play caller's job is to help the young player out.
33:46
And, obviously, Caleb Williams with the bears last year had a miserable season.
33:50
Right?
33:50
I mean, he set records for passing yards because the bears have been so atrocious at QB
33:55
forever.
33:56
No kidding.
33:57
You know, you you have to have a strong running game to match up with that.
34:02
And I've learned so much about football from watching my friend's YouTube show and watching
34:07
them grow, and he breaks down tape.
34:09
And, I mean, he does it all.
34:10
I've learned so much from just watching him because I didn't play the game, coach.
34:14
I I I played, you know, like, seventh and eighth grade.
34:16
I think I maybe played my freshman year, and then I hung up the cleats.
34:20
It wasn't for me.
34:22
Right?
34:22
But always driving home that the coach's job is to help the players on the field perform at
34:30
their best.
34:31
And I feel like what we've seen out of KOC, and not just this season, it's been all the time,
34:36
that he wants to be the quarterback so bad.
34:41
Right?
34:41
He's trying to live vicariously through that headset so bad that it is hindering his team.
34:49
And I think he's a great leader of men.
34:52
I think he still has those qualities.
34:55
But as a play caller, he cannot get out of his own fucking way, and it's atrocious to watch
35:02
time after time after time.
35:05
And I think it's he's being exposed to the point, coach, where I think he came out with
35:10
some comments today that yeah.
35:16
Our our boy Willie chirping in, and Willie's a a Chiefs fan, right, down there in Missouri.
35:23
And across the board, a lot of teams to to many try to fit the player into a box instead of
35:29
putting the players in a position to succeed.
35:32
Right?
35:33
And I feel and it's crazy this year because the stats reflect that strong running game.
35:39
The stats for this Viking were top 10 rushing yards per attempt.
35:44
You just have a coach that six attempts with an undrafted rookie quarterback.
35:49
What the hell are you doing?
35:51
And I think a lot of fans who were putting this all on McCarthy two weeks ago are are waking up
35:59
to this now.
35:59
Right?
35:59
Like, the veil has been lifted now where it's like, oh.
36:03
Oh, this guy's a problem.
36:05
Right?
36:05
Like, his his insistence on passing 80% of the time is an issue when you have a absolutely
36:14
beat up offensive line.
36:16
You have two horses in the background.
36:19
Aaron Jones, we've obviously talked a lot about on this episode for different reasons, but, you
36:25
know, this Jordan Mason looks like a pretty good back too.
36:28
Right?
36:28
Like
36:29
Yeah.
36:29
Yeah.
36:29
What are we doing?
36:32
You know, it it's it's tough.
36:34
And like I've like I've been saying, past couple weeks and just conversations with you,
36:40
during the week, you know, just, you know, being that coach to to want to, put your
36:48
players in the best position.
36:50
You know?
36:51
And with all the success that KOC has had over the past few seasons, I kinda feel like he's
36:58
got that, you can't tell me nothing attitude.
37:02
And once you get that, everything starts to turn.
37:07
You know, the game's constantly evolving.
37:11
So as coaches, you have to constantly evolve yourself.
37:17
You know?
37:18
Yeah.
37:18
We should have ran the ball more.
37:20
I don't know why in the hell we didn't.
37:23
I don't know why we didn't take the points when we did.
37:27
Jordan Anderson, that first the first, like, few throws that Brozmer had, you know, it was a
37:35
I think it was a slant or a post or something, over from the left side, and he he just dropped
37:43
it.
37:43
He he it it was a perfect throw, you know, down the field over 10 yards, and he just dropped
37:50
it.
37:50
The one to Jefferson.
37:53
You know?
37:53
Yeah.
37:54
It was a little bit behind him, but you got your hands on it.
37:56
Jefferson, we've seen you make harder catches than that.
38:00
You gotta come down with it.
38:01
Wide receivers have to help them out too.
38:04
You know?
38:05
That that's just all around bad football, bad coaching.
38:12
Man, bad GM moves.
38:14
They released Thielen after trading a fourth round pick for him.
38:20
And I'm like, what are we do we're just giving away players.
38:23
You know?
38:23
And I think a lot of people justified the trade for Thielen because you didn't know if you were
38:28
getting Naylor back, and you had kinda let now and I don't know if anybody really you know,
38:35
Harrison Phillips.
38:36
You you trade Harrison Phillips, and I think a lot of people justify that trade because you
38:40
kinda flipped that pick to get feeling, and there was just a lot of thing.
38:45
And now you essentially gave away both guys for nothing.
38:49
Right.
38:49
Just gave Addison gave away Addison was on suspension.
38:53
Right.
38:54
Right.
38:55
Well and I think that nailer injury really worried them, I guess, but still, man.
38:59
Like, what about type felt?
39:01
Like, what what about the guy that you drafted that's on the team already?
39:06
You know?
39:06
Like, there's so many questions.
39:08
And I, you know, I think KOC is safe for this year.
39:12
I think Quasie's gone.
39:14
I think he's a Black Monday casualty.
39:16
There's just too I'm surprised, honestly.
39:18
He didn't get fired after the statement released with Thielen.
39:22
I don't know the Wells.
39:23
I'm a relatively new to the team, right, and following this team, so I don't know a lot of
39:28
the history and what these owners are like.
39:31
There's some people that think Quasi's kinda safe and coming back regardless, but you can't
39:36
fuck this draft up, man.
39:38
You got 10 picks, and you need you need 80% of them to hit and to become if role players at
39:45
least on this team.
39:46
You this team is if you don't hit, you're looking at a massive regression next year and
39:52
not not necessarily a rebuild of the roster, but everybody in the front office and coaching
39:57
staff is getting fired if you have a repeat of this season next year.
40:02
Oh, most definitely.
40:03
Most definitely.
40:05
Midseason, they won't even I wouldn't even wait.
40:08
I wouldn't even give it the whole season.
40:10
If it looks if it looks like it this next year, I'm clearing house.
40:18
I'd clear house.
40:19
Obviously, things aren't working.
40:21
Changes need to be made.
40:23
I kinda agree with you, though.
40:26
I think KOC is safe.
40:28
He's just, you know, built too much credibility over the past few years.
40:35
One season, you know, going into it, there were some people that were like, is JJ McCarthy
40:41
ready?
40:42
So, I mean, Kwasey for sure, I would I won't even let him mess up another draft.
40:49
I wouldn't even give him a chance to mess up another draft.
40:52
10 picks?
40:53
No.
40:53
I'm not I'm not doing that.
40:55
No.
40:55
Mister Pink, I appreciate the comment.
40:58
I I think you're right.
40:59
Jefferson has to have a say because he's your franchise.
41:03
He's the one that people are still taking their kids to go see on Sunday.
41:08
And I think US Bank is gonna sell out.
41:10
You're right.
41:10
You're gonna have 70,000 people in there no matter what because and especially when tickets
41:17
get cheap that a lot of people Brandon Herrera chiming in to said, what's up,
41:22
Tony?
41:22
Man.
41:24
That, yeah, it's all it's almost nice for people with families because the tickets get
41:30
cheaper.
41:30
You can't afford to bring the three kids out to a game maybe and enjoy it.
41:36
But that that goodwill only lasts for so long too.
41:40
You know?
41:41
There's a lot of people that have already cashed their chips in, moving on to the wolves
41:45
in the wild.
41:46
They're tuning out of Vikings football and not consuming it.
41:49
And it it's it's unfortunate that the season has gone as poorly as it as it has for so many
41:57
reasons because the expectation was set so high.
42:00
Right?
42:00
14 wins last year with Sam Darnold.
42:04
I think everybody was in like this.
42:06
The 2025 is our year.
42:09
Right?
42:09
Let's go.
42:10
JJ's gonna step up.
42:12
And I think, you know, JJ looked to me like a guy who hadn't played football in a year.
42:17
And, unfortunately, that knee injury sidelining him.
42:20
And it's not like, you know, I think he was on the bench all year last, but, like, they had
42:24
planned for a red shirt year.
42:26
You don't sign Sam Darnold, who was a proven starter in the league.
42:30
Now is he a top tier guy?
42:31
I don't think anyone's fighting you on on whether he is or not.
42:35
But but you signed him to be the starter.
42:40
Right?
42:41
And you were hopeful that JJ would be able to sit back and learn the game, get all the
42:46
practice reps, and he didn't.
42:48
And, unfortunately, you, you really you really messed up this year putting him in a position
42:54
that he was never ready to step into.
42:56
You know?
42:57
And it seems like the move is, and Brandon Herrera asking if the Vikings entertain calls
43:02
about Jeddah.
43:03
I don't think so.
43:04
Not right now.
43:06
You go, you know, one and four to start next year.
43:10
I think he's demanding a trade at that point.
43:13
And and at that point, you know, you're getting pennies on the dollar on that deal.
43:17
From what I've heard, I don't understand all the contracts and everything, but the the money
43:23
you you you're not just trading him.
43:25
Right?
43:25
Nobody's taking on the money of his contract.
43:28
Right?
43:28
Is it 30 or $40,000,000 a year?
43:31
So you're talking about a ton of dead cap space in there.
43:34
So it's not as easy as it is in some of the other sports or that it was traditionally in
43:39
the NFL, you know, ten years ago.
43:42
A lot of things have changed on that front.
43:44
So, you know, Jets is on this team.
43:49
JJ is on this team whether people, you know, want that or not.
43:53
I think, you know, with the arm talent that he has, I think if he would have had that red
43:58
shirt year, he's a different quarterback this year.
44:00
Right?
44:01
If he's able to correct the footwork and the processing and to get all those reps on the
44:07
practice squad last year, especially with as good as the defense was, right, that he would
44:11
have been a totally different player this year.
44:14
Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
44:16
And this year, the, the front office didn't have a plan as far as, like, what happens if we
44:22
gotta pull the ripcord?
44:24
And if Carson Wentz was your answer, what the fuck were you thinking?
44:28
You know?
44:30
Like and and I think that's why Quasi is gone.
44:34
Right?
44:34
I think that's why Quasi is absolutely out of here because you need big changes on this team
44:42
over the course of this offseason to even think about being a con not even a contender, just
44:48
like being watchable next year.
44:53
No.
44:54
Yeah.
44:54
I agree.
44:55
I don't think, I don't think we entertain any calls, for Jefferson.
45:00
If we did, then you're basically starting all over again.
45:07
Yeah.
45:07
You know?
45:08
On 2020 on the twenty twenty six, twenty seven season.
45:11
If you trade jets in the offseason, you've declared to your fan base that we are in full
45:16
rebuild mode.
45:17
Yeah.
45:19
Yeah.
45:20
And to answer Brandon's question, I agree with you.
45:24
I think he's safe this year.
45:25
Like I said, he's had, you know, so much success in these previous seasons.
45:31
One year, we're gonna be like, it might have been a fluke.
45:34
Whatever.
45:34
We'll give him that chance.
45:36
But like I said, next year, shit better be a complete turnaround.
45:42
I think it starts out warm next year.
45:45
Right?
45:45
Like, it's on medium to start
45:47
the year.
45:47
It has to.
45:48
Yeah.
45:48
It has to.
45:49
It it's already heating up now because of statements he made today.
45:54
He actually and I actually appreciate this because you don't see it a lot from KOC, but
45:59
you heard him in his press conference.
46:01
I don't know if it was today or yesterday, but you heard him kind of admitting that, yeah.
46:07
I didn't put our players in a good spot.
46:10
And I don't know if that's kind of the veil of the coach of the year, you know, coming off of
46:16
his eyes and and him taking a long look in the mirror to go, okay.
46:22
I need to readjust how I'm coaching and calling plays, or it's going to end with me not having
46:29
a job, you know, sometime next year either.
46:32
And I think that I think he's a smart enough individual to do it.
46:36
I think he has enough I think he has enough mentors in the league.
46:41
A guy like West Phillips isn't sticking around.
46:43
I know their relationship is strong.
46:45
I honestly think KOC I think his system is good.
46:48
I really think it's him as a play caller.
46:50
And a lot of people are calling for him to give up play calling and those things.
46:53
I don't think you're gonna see that either.
46:55
It means too much to him.
46:56
But he needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and to make a bunch of adjustments this
47:02
year and how he's starting to call games and and address the issues moving forward even if
47:10
you know, hey.
47:10
We're gonna you know, I there's been a lot of Mac Jones talk, mister Pink coming back in, and
47:16
that's getting warmer.
47:17
I don't know enough about Mac Jones to make a a judgment call on that.
47:21
Aaron Rodgers' name is obviously getting thrown around again.
47:25
I don't know how much I'm into that.
47:27
I think it's, I think it's honestly more can KOC take this offseason?
47:33
Because when did JJ come back?
47:35
I mean, from that MCL, I'm that was, like, a nine, ten month deal.
47:39
So it's not like he was out practicing and able to work out in February, March, and April.
47:46
It seemed like he was really just getting back around the time that they had their, you know,
47:51
off season team activities and getting started into that, which are really condensed.
47:56
You're not getting a ton of time to do things, you know, in that time.
48:00
So he probably didn't get any time with his personal quarterbacks coach last season and
48:04
over the course of the offseason to work on some things.
48:08
I think, you know, I I don't know, man.
48:10
I don't know what they do.
48:12
Brandon, you got some great quiet we're gonna have to bring Brandon Herrera on to freaking
48:16
cohost this show with us at some point, Cody.
48:18
What do you think of that?
48:19
Is it a good buddy of yours?
48:21
I mean, I do I do podcast or interviews with them, for the Coast to Coast Sports Network
48:32
Entertainment Network.
48:33
So Okay.
48:34
Brandon, shout out to you, man.
48:35
It runs just smooth.
48:36
Let's do it.
48:37
I've been I've been tapping in and seeing your guys' content online.
48:41
Obviously, I'm producing so much over here that I can't, but I knew the name looked familiar,
48:46
Brandon.
48:47
Shout out to Coast to Coast, Sports Network, everything you guys are doing over there.
48:51
We'll be sharing more of that stuff over on this channel, and, we'd love to have you in,
48:56
man.
48:57
Actually, you know what?
48:58
I'm gonna send you a link.
48:59
Coach, you go ahead and answer the question.
49:01
I'm gonna dip out and see if I can send him a link on Facebook, see if he wants to jump in
49:05
with us.
49:06
Yeah.
49:06
No.
49:07
Go ahead.
49:07
Do that.
49:08
Do that.
49:09
But, I mean, do we focus on o line in the next draft?
49:14
Yeah.
49:15
We have to.
49:16
We have absolutely no depth.
49:19
Absolutely no depth.
49:21
Do you see what happens when our starting five can't play?
49:26
It's just a dumpster fire.
49:27
Absolute trash.
49:31
The by getting the veteran QB, I mean, even though everyone is all, oh, hey.
49:39
All we do is rent a quarterback.
49:41
All we do is rent a quarterback.
49:43
Well, I mean, we might have to go back to renting that quarterback because, you know,
49:51
with the play calls right now, the court the quarterbacks are getting no help.
49:57
So we're we're gonna have to do something.
50:00
I really wish we would've done whatever we could to keep Sam Darnold.
50:05
I know it was the money and everything, but, I mean, damn, one more year of Sam Darnold
50:11
getting, chemistry with the receivers and everything.
50:15
I think it could've been nasty.
50:17
It's weird to say Sam Darnold, but I think it could have been nasty.
50:22
Yeah.
50:23
Alright.
50:23
He's gonna come and tap in with his coach.
50:25
That's exciting.
50:26
Let's go.
50:27
About that.
50:28
That's exactly why we wanted to start this show was to give some fans.
50:32
And we have so many great, broadcasters and podcasters and guys like Marcus, you know, Sir
50:38
Picasso that, we always have room for special guests on here.
50:42
So really stoked to see Brandon tap in with us.
50:44
I'll keep my eyes on the studio for that.
50:46
But, yeah, lack of depth, and that comes back to Quasie.
50:49
Right?
50:50
I mean, that is a 100% on Quasie because those drafts are where you restock those.
50:56
So you can go out and rent a few guys to get you over the hump, a Hargraves, and a Jonathan.
51:02
Right?
51:02
Like, but none of that works if you don't have other horses in the stable to lighten that load
51:09
and to bring more to the table.
51:12
And, unfortunately, for for this Vikings team, man, like, it's glaring.
51:19
It's glaring the lack of depth across the board, even the guys that you would expect.
51:23
I mean, obviously, we're hearing a lot of, Ty Felton and some of these other I mean, Dallas
51:28
Turner really didn't get a shot until Grunard and Van Ginkle got hurt this year.
51:33
And now look at him.
51:34
Like and I don't know if that's coaching too.
51:37
I don't know if it's the coaches who are like, I'm not putting them out there or if it's, you
51:41
know, Kwazi holding some of these guy.
51:43
Like, I don't know where the disconnect is.
51:46
And, I can't wait until we get credentials one day, coach, so we can ask the hard hitting
51:51
questions to the people that know.
51:54
But, I mean
51:55
You'll you'll you'll have the credentials, and I'll be the coach answering the questions for
51:59
you.
52:00
Let's go.
52:01
I know you posted a video.
52:03
God.
52:04
And I you know what?
52:05
It's AI, but it's a dream, right, to be out there.
52:08
And, you know, hey.
52:09
This team and this front office and these owners, they love Minnesota guys.
52:13
So you got a shot, coach.
52:16
Hey.
52:17
I mean, I already got some people pulling for me.
52:19
I just gotta keep doing my work.
52:21
I'll get dancing.
52:22
Hell, man.
52:23
They freaking gave the ghost of Adam Thielen.
52:25
They gave him a the fourth round pick away for him and then brought him back.
52:29
Here we go.
52:30
Big b, Brandon Herrera jumping in with us.
52:33
What's up, sir?
52:34
Nice to meet you, man.
52:36
What's up, guys?
52:37
Thanks for the invite.
52:38
Cody, how's it on, man?
52:39
Thanks for the invite.
52:41
Hey.
52:41
It's my pleasure.
52:42
My pleasure, man.
52:43
I love what you're doing out there, and I'd like to give you a tell people a little bit
52:47
about your network and what you guys got going on.
52:49
I know you've had coach on for a coaches show Really?
52:52
For over a year now, it seems like.
52:54
It's been on for a while.
52:55
Yeah.
52:56
You know, it's Coast Coast Entertainment Network.
52:59
We do a lot of sports shows.
53:01
We got a wrestling show that we do.
53:04
Wednesdays or Thursday mornings, we have a rank them show, which me and my buddy, Tim Hendrix,
53:10
do where we rank different topics for the day.
53:15
We do a football show on Wednesday at night called Primetime Blitz where we do predictions
53:20
each week.
53:21
But yeah.
53:22
And then coach coach coach coach Cody comes out once in a while, talks some football.
53:29
It's always a joy having him.
53:31
Good friend of mine.
53:32
So, yeah, we definitely enjoyed what we do and definitely try to hop on and promote our shows.
53:38
So
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Yes, sir.
53:41
Yes, sir.
53:42
Yeah.
53:43
That's awesome.
53:43
That's awesome, b.
53:44
I love what you guys got going on.
53:46
You know, I I referenced some some other YouTube channels, that I watched, you know,
53:51
growing up a bears fan.
53:52
I started following draft doctor Phil and the keeping it 100 when it was on another network
53:59
and, the bears barroom and started following this and really getting into this.
54:04
And I've always loved, I mean, talking.
54:06
Right?
54:06
That's how I became a podcaster to begin with.
54:08
And and most of my stuff's always been focused on music.
54:11
Right?
54:12
I'm a songwriter.
54:13
Mhmm.
54:13
Songs that you'll hear throughout the show, those are those are my songs and a way for me
54:17
to expose people to my music.
54:19
And I just I love sports, man.
54:22
And I am not always like, I consume a lot of sports content, but at the end of the day,
54:27
like, I got shit I wanna say too.
54:29
And, you know, with StreamYard and some of these platforms that we have now is like, why
54:34
not?
54:35
And on a whim, I kinda asked I was sitting here and like, man, there's no Vikings pregame show.
54:41
Like, everybody at Purple Daily obviously has all the postgame and daily shows coming out,
54:46
but nobody's doing any pregame action.
54:48
And, I'm good friends with the Viking World Order.
54:51
You know, Marcus was on with us and Shelley and so many of these people.
54:56
And I really wanted just to shine a light on the good that they're doing.
54:59
Right?
54:59
The the money that they're raising for charities and to kinda give a fan aspect of
55:04
what we're doing and to make the hang like a tailgate, right, where we can sit here, we can
55:09
talk some shit to each other, we can bring on opposing teams fans as well and just have a
55:14
hang.
55:15
And that sounds like exactly what you guys got going on over there at coast to coast as well.
55:19
Oh, yeah.
55:20
We I mean, most of our you know, I'm in Minnesota.
55:23
We got a guy down in in Texas.
55:26
We got some people, you know, that come on to baseball that live in New York.
55:31
The people that put together the network, they live out in Port Portland.
55:36
My buddy, Tim Hendricks, he's actually over in Italy, so that's why he's out of new shows.
55:41
So yeah.
55:42
So that's why Coast Coast comes about.
55:44
Yeah.
55:44
We just wanna voice our opinion and kinda live our dreams of reporting on sports, talking
55:51
about sports, you know, try not to make it so much bias.
55:54
I mean, yeah, we all, you know, kinda have our homer takes here and there.
55:58
But, again, you know, I'll sit there and talk about how bad I think the twins are, the
56:02
Vikings are, and, you know, get called the bad.
56:05
We get paid all the time, but it's just honesty.
56:08
You
56:08
know?
56:10
Yeah.
56:12
So, Brandon, what were your thoughts on Sunday's game?
56:20
Oh, what were my thoughts on Sunday's game?
56:25
Well, I mean, he made rookie mistakes.
56:28
I mean, that pick six was a rookie mistake.
56:31
He should've just, you know, took the sack.
56:34
And it it you know, it's kinda like baseball.
56:36
You know, I I hate when the player looks at that third that third strike right down the
56:41
middle on a three two count or whatever.
56:43
You know, it's kinda like that.
56:45
You you should've took the sack.
56:46
You grew up you grew up playing quarterback.
56:48
You, you know, you know when to take the sack.
56:52
The team just looks all disarrayed.
56:53
That offensive line, you know, can't block.
56:56
I think that's why that's what a lot of JJ's problems is and, you know, he just doesn't know
57:02
if he's gonna get the block, so he has to be quick.
57:06
You know?
57:06
And I always reference John Madden all the time.
57:08
John Madden always says if you win the line of scrimmage battle, you're gonna win the game.
57:12
You know?
57:13
So you gotta have a good office line.
57:14
You gotta have a good defense line to win the games.
57:16
You know, me and Cody's talked about that, you know, through, you know, through his, you know,
57:22
coaches experience.
57:23
And I think that's what the Vikings need to focus on.
57:25
Yeah.
57:26
I don't think they need to entertain calls for Jefferson, but, again, you know, it's gotta be
57:32
in the back of, you know, all of our minds.
57:34
What are they gonna do?
57:35
What's when's Jefferson gonna finally say, hey.
57:38
I want out and, you know, what can we get for him?
57:41
You know?
57:41
And I kinda hope they keep them around, but, you know, you know, what are they gonna do this
57:46
off season?
57:46
I mean, that's, I think, the million dollar question right now.
57:50
Yes.
57:51
Yeah.
57:51
And everything has a price.
57:53
Yeah.
57:54
It's the day that he asked for that trade, man.
57:56
You're like, it's gonna be a decade or more until we're good again.
58:01
Right?
58:01
Like, I don't know.
58:02
Like, that would be the most demoralizing thing to happen to this fan base.
58:06
Mhmm.
58:07
And that's why you I think that's why you gotta get rid of Quasie sooner than later.
58:12
You have to have somebody with the and it's hard to go out and get somebody that's never
58:17
done it before in that GM spot to plug in for this draft.
58:21
Right?
58:21
Like, you gotta you have to be able to hire somebody that knows this league, that knows
58:26
coming in already.
58:28
And that's maybe why Quasi keeps his job is because you're in such a pivotal time in the
58:34
franchise that you can't pivot last minute and expect someone to rebuild the team on the fly
58:42
with no backing.
58:43
Like, you almost need to you need to have a GM now.
58:46
Like, fire Quasi tomorrow, find a new GM, and hire someone, you know, before this season's
58:51
over so that they can get the legwork in assessing this draft class so that you can make
58:57
these picks.
58:57
Because I don't think you can wait till Black Monday and, well, you just say it's not
59:02
possible.
59:03
Well, Bubba, that that's a good point.
59:05
I I keep to bring it up too.
59:06
You know, we always talk about how bad the coaches, how bad the players are, why they
59:10
signed it.
59:11
You know, nobody talks about, well, what about the staff that goes out and scouts these
59:16
players or makes recommendations?
59:18
Yeah.
59:18
It's not
59:18
the GM and it's not the owners to say yes and no.
59:21
But, again, you know, they're doing their job or they're they're saying, hey.
59:26
We need to take this guy or we need to sign this guy, and it turns out to be a flop.
59:30
I mean, when do we hold them guys accountable?
59:33
It's not just coaching.
59:34
I mean, these guys are pro athletes.
59:36
They should be able to know what goes on.
59:40
But, you know, I mean, I think I think Kwesi is probably probably on a very, very hot seat
59:46
right now, especially if this turns out to be what you said you know, what we kind of think
59:51
is gonna happen is, you know, they're gonna not win the rest of the year or win maybe one game.
59:56
You know, Bubba, I'm with you.
59:58
I think they just cut ties now and try to find a replacement, you know, soon.
1:00:03
I thought there was gonna be a statement after his statement on feeling that was literally
1:00:09
well, we thank you, Queasy.
1:00:12
We appreciate it.
1:00:13
Adios.
1:00:14
Because that I mean, to me, that's a fireable offense.
1:00:18
Like, everything that happened around that day, I don't give a shit if he's a nice guy.
1:00:22
I don't fucking care, to be perfectly honest.
1:00:25
You traded a fourth round pick for this man to come in, not do a fucking thing, and then
1:00:30
you're gonna cut him because his his camp is coming to you and saying, hey.
1:00:34
We wanna go play for a contender, man.
1:00:36
Get out of here.
1:00:38
And I think a lot of Minnesota fans are too nice to feel in, and those people even asking,
1:00:44
like, man, that's I'm gonna come back and sign a one day contract.
1:00:49
Look, bro.
1:00:49
We we don't want you, man.
1:00:50
Like, I you're gonna turn your back on the team when things are going bad and and you were here
1:00:55
for the good days.
1:00:56
And then you go to the Steelers?
1:00:58
Yeah.
1:00:58
That's what shocked me.
1:00:59
You went to the Steelers.
1:01:00
I I would go, like, not the
1:01:03
Bears or Buffalo.
1:01:05
Maybe KC, but, yeah, I think I I think Buffalo Bills would have been a better fit for them.
1:01:14
And, yeah, this scares me.
1:01:16
Reunite with
1:01:16
Koc and Kwasey bring Mac Jones to save their asses, and that's what scares me is you go and
1:01:24
rent a who hasn't proved it at all in this league.
1:01:28
What did Mac Jones have?
1:01:29
Like, four good games?
1:01:31
You know?
1:01:31
Like
1:01:32
If we do that, I'm switching sides.
1:01:34
That was a tough one because, you know, I I I don't know.
1:01:40
I mean, yeah, we got the weapons, but still, you bring Mac Jones in here, you still have to
1:01:44
bolster that office line.
1:01:45
I mean, I wouldn't trust anybody with that office line, you know, right now.
1:01:50
Some way of sense.
1:01:52
Yeah.
1:01:52
See and talk about that.
1:01:53
Now we didn't do a postmortem on the Green Bay game, coach.
1:01:57
I I would love to know because you went back and watched all the tape, and everybody just
1:02:02
buried JJ after that game.
1:02:04
He doesn't have it.
1:02:05
But Micah Parsons destroyed this team.
1:02:10
Oh,
1:02:10
yeah.
1:02:10
Handed.
1:02:11
Single handedly destroyed that offensive line.
1:02:14
Everybody got their jockstrap taken by Micah Parsons that day.
1:02:18
So to put it all on the 22 year old kid's shoulders, I thought was very unwarranted, but
1:02:24
I I feel like and that's not even trying to be like an apologist to JJ.
1:02:28
He's been historically bad.
1:02:30
But can you talk about what you saw on the tape, coach, of the inefficacy of the offensive
1:02:37
line?
1:02:39
For this seahawks game?
1:02:41
No.
1:02:41
For the packers game where you actually had all five.
1:02:44
Right?
1:02:45
You had your starting line right in the game.
1:02:49
And
1:02:49
Yeah.
1:02:50
Starting five.
1:02:51
And yeah.
1:02:52
I mean, I mean, that was one of my keys to the game.
1:02:56
We had to stop, Michael Parsons.
1:02:59
We had to win that battle up front, and we just got worse.
1:03:02
We got, like they put hands on us and didn't let go.
1:03:07
You know?
1:03:07
It it was ridiculous.
1:03:09
It is almost embarrassing.
1:03:13
But the but that's what's gonna happen.
1:03:16
I mean, Michael Parsons is just a beast.
1:03:19
You you're not gonna stop him.
1:03:21
You can only just try to contain him.
1:03:22
Limit his disruption.
1:03:24
You know?
1:03:26
So is it coaching then?
1:03:28
Because at the end, they finally started triple teaming his ass and saying, we're not gonna let
1:03:32
this man beat us anymore.
1:03:35
Why wasn't that the game plan from the get go?
1:03:39
And It
1:03:40
should have been.
1:03:41
It should have been.
1:03:42
And you're going into the game.
1:03:43
The man is.
1:03:44
He's been in Dallas for how long?
1:03:47
I watched him destroy the bears last year.
1:03:50
That's great.
1:03:50
Single handedly wrecked that game against the bears line.
1:03:53
That was kind of the end of the season, honestly, for the bears because I think it
1:03:57
might have been that following week that they were in San Francisco, and the team checked
1:04:01
out.
1:04:01
I watched the players check out.
1:04:03
They're just like, oh, we're fucking over this.
1:04:05
You know?
1:04:05
Yeah.
1:04:05
And More that was the problem.
1:04:07
It's just it's just coaching, all the way around.
1:04:12
You know?
1:04:13
And it almost makes me wonder, is is there something going on with our running back
1:04:19
situation?
1:04:20
I mean, we're not running them.
1:04:22
When we do, we're getting, you know, x amount of yards per clip in top 10, whatever in the
1:04:30
league, but we're only running them, so many times.
1:04:35
Six times in the first half, you know, but Aaron Jones, every time he gets hit, he he's
1:04:41
hurt.
1:04:42
Yeah.
1:04:42
You know?
1:04:43
And then at the end of the game, Jordan Mason gets hurt.
1:04:46
So it's like, are you are you just hiding the fact that they're hurt and just trying to pass
1:04:51
more?
1:04:51
What's going on?
1:04:54
Yeah.
1:04:55
This Mac Jones comment, man.
1:04:57
Like, yeah, he went sick, but San Francisco is a good team.
1:05:01
Francisco.
1:05:02
A good coach.
1:05:03
Like, it's
1:05:05
not like Mac Jones put the team on his back.
1:05:08
And and that and that's the thing is everybody says that, oh, we need to keep the we should've
1:05:12
brought this guy.
1:05:12
We should've brought this.
1:05:13
Look what they're doing.
1:05:15
But it's not gonna say that they're gonna do that here in Minnesota.
1:05:18
I mean,
1:05:20
you know,
1:05:20
our office align is garbage.
1:05:22
Yes.
1:05:22
We got the best probably the best combo of receivers.
1:05:26
The run against pretty decent, but if you can't open up those holes and block, it ain't gonna
1:05:31
mean nothing.
1:05:31
I mean, I said this back, when we first started coast to coast back in, what was it, '18 when
1:05:38
we had Case Keenum.
1:05:40
I said they bring Case back, you draft Lamar Jackson, and then you have an open competition.
1:05:45
I got laughed at.
1:05:46
And it's just like they're like, well, look what kids did outside of Minnesota.
1:05:50
You're right.
1:05:51
He fit Minnesota.
1:05:53
You know?
1:05:53
He doesn't fit anywhere else.
1:05:54
You know?
1:05:55
And and that's one thing I think a lot of coaches need to do is fit their game plan to
1:05:59
what their team could do instead of trying to fit the team to their game plan.
1:06:04
I'm not gonna lie.
1:06:05
That pissed me off when we didn't bring him back.
1:06:07
That pissed me off.
1:06:09
And
1:06:11
you signed Cousins for a guaranteed contract, which now everybody's getting guaranteed
1:06:14
contracts because of it.
1:06:17
Mhmm.
1:06:18
Oh, man.
1:06:20
Yeah.
1:06:20
This is this is rough.
1:06:22
And I think what a lot of obviously, last year was, an amazing year.
1:06:27
14 wins.
1:06:28
It takes a lot to do that, but your defense was historic in takeaways.
1:06:34
And Sam Darnold didn't win 14 games.
1:06:38
And I I don't think I don't know how fans don't see that.
1:06:42
When you're getting short fields and quick changes, right, and, coach, you can kind of
1:06:45
attest to this as a defense and, you know, your offense goes out there and you're right back on
1:06:52
the field, you're not fresh.
1:06:54
Right?
1:06:54
You're not you're not at your best.
1:06:57
And I think the Vikings offense last year capitalized on that, and especially KOC knows
1:07:03
how to capitalize on that.
1:07:04
Right?
1:07:04
His offense is built for a tired defense because you now can play these long developing.
1:07:09
These pass rushers aren't fresh.
1:07:12
And because you just won't commit to a running game, you're not gonna wear any of these guys
1:07:16
down with your play calling that I think a lot of people, like, forget.
1:07:21
You just they just see the stats in the win column after the season's over and forget that.
1:07:27
Like but, yeah, the reason that you had all those touchdowns was because you were getting
1:07:32
the ball on the 30.
1:07:33
Right?
1:07:34
You were getting the ball in the red zone because your defense took the ball away, what,
1:07:38
39 times last year?
1:07:40
And now we have nine.
1:07:41
Yeah.
1:07:44
No inter did we get an interception this week?
1:07:46
I was listening to the game, so I might have missed something.
1:07:48
I know the defense played well this week, but, yeah, I know we got
1:07:51
the No.
1:07:52
No.
1:07:52
But no interceptions.
1:07:53
Got a bunch of forced bundles.
1:07:55
Seven games now in with no interceptions?
1:08:01
Yeah.
1:08:01
Yeah.
1:08:06
Aaron, yeah, I think the Vikings getting McCarthy on the draft was like, yeah.
1:08:10
We're moving from you Jefferson type shit.
1:08:12
Jefferson have too many QBs already, and Vikings owners know a rookie QB wouldn't fit.
1:08:17
I don't.
1:08:18
I don't know.
1:08:20
I don't know.
1:08:20
And then he kinda continues here.
1:08:23
They know what they're doing.
1:08:24
Vikings can easily go Ohio wide receiver one and Viking Vikings new you don't pay the man
1:08:29
like you did and extend him if you don't believe that he is a vital part of your team.
1:08:36
I don't I don't believe that.
1:08:39
And, unfortunately, you guys I think you guys
1:08:43
hit hit on on the the nail.
1:08:44
Nail, when I first joined and was watching guys' podcast.
1:08:48
Jefferson's gotta be a part of the off season process.
1:08:52
He's gotta they gotta sit down with them and be like, hey.
1:08:55
What do you want?
1:08:56
What do you think we need, you know, to keep you happy, keep you here?
1:09:00
I mean, even maybe you bring in Jordan Anderson too and, you know, TJ Hockison and sit them
1:09:06
down and be like, okay.
1:09:07
You guys are our three weapons.
1:09:08
What
1:09:09
do
1:09:09
you guys need?
1:09:09
What do you guys think we we need to do in this draft or in the off season?
1:09:13
I think Hawk's gone.
1:09:15
Maybe you bring in Addison, but with his off the field issues this year, he comes back.
1:09:20
He's underperformed.
1:09:21
I was in a different chat, and I I think I said Addison was a wide receiver three because
1:09:26
that's probably where he fits in on, like, a Rams team.
1:09:29
Right?
1:09:29
He's undersized.
1:09:31
You you gotta kinda gadget him a little bit to get him open.
1:09:34
He's not separating.
1:09:35
Like, to me, that's not wide receiver two.
1:09:38
Right?
1:09:38
That's not a that's not a a second option, opposite of Justin Jefferson who oh, so, like,
1:09:45
my Justin Jefferson moment, we were at the colts, we were at the 33 comeback game a few
1:09:51
years ago, my wife and I.
1:09:52
Yeah.
1:09:52
Don't bring that up on coast to coast because Tim Hendricks is a colts fan.
1:09:56
So
1:09:58
Dude, that game and I was still like, I was rooting for the Vikings because I didn't have a
1:10:02
dog in the fight, but Mhmm.
1:10:04
I watched him, like, walk up, and I'm gonna I'm gonna maximize my screen so I can kinda stand
1:10:08
up and show you guys this.
1:10:10
But I watched him just hand fake someone.
1:10:14
I can't get to myself on here.
1:10:15
Right?
1:10:16
I'm a minimize Cody, and I'll remove you guys real quick.
1:10:19
Maybe.
1:10:19
I can get to this.
1:10:20
But, no, he literally just, like, threw his hand out on the goal line and the quarterback,
1:10:24
woo, out of frame.
1:10:26
Right?
1:10:27
And you're like, that's the respect you have to have for this man.
1:10:32
Right?
1:10:32
That's the respect you have to have for that speed and separation that you're going on that
1:10:37
first movement, and that guy was off the screen.
1:10:39
It was like a magic trick.
1:10:40
Like, the guy was gone.
1:10:42
Yep.
1:10:42
Yep.
1:10:42
And you have that.
1:10:45
See, but here's the problem is that Addison has not been on.
1:10:49
Right?
1:10:50
Yes.
1:10:50
He's a one on shitty teams.
1:10:52
Right?
1:10:52
Yeah.
1:10:52
He's a wide receiver one On bad teams.
1:11:09
And that was kinda someone's reiteration.
1:11:11
It's like, man, yeah, I just don't for me, especially in this day and age, because the
1:11:17
talent level of the NFL is so high now and your cornerbacks are getting bigger, The cornerbacks
1:11:23
I think the average size of cornerbacks, it isn't five ten anymore.
1:11:27
The average size of these cornerbacks, people coaches are going for guys that are six foot
1:11:31
one that can keep up, that can not fall down.
1:11:35
Addison is undersized, and that's a reality with it.
1:11:38
I know people are in love with him, but you combine that with his he cost you three games
1:11:42
this year.
1:11:43
Right?
1:11:43
He was not available for three games because he put himself above the team.
1:11:48
To me, that's selfish, and that speaks to the player that he probably is in training during
1:11:54
the off season.
1:11:55
Right?
1:11:55
A guy talk about a guy.
1:11:57
He doesn't look like a freaking four four or whatever he ran at the combine anymore to me.
1:12:02
Didn't look like he's got that breakaway speed this year.
1:12:05
He's living off that 40 time from the combine and and and not excelling, not going out like a
1:12:11
jets does and working out in the off season to maintain that high level.
1:12:15
I don't think guys respect how fast it fades in this league because there are dogs coming every
1:12:23
single year through that draft that it's their dream to play on that field.
1:12:26
And if it's not their dream to stay there, they're gonna take it from you.
1:12:29
And and, coach, maybe you have more insight to this than any of us, right, as a coach and
1:12:35
someone who's loved the game.
1:12:36
Can you kinda speak to what it takes season over season?
1:12:39
I mean, you're a champion.
1:12:41
You've been there.
1:12:41
You've coached these guys.
1:12:43
Like, what does it take to maintain that in the off season to maintain that level?
1:12:49
You gotta keep working.
1:12:51
You gotta treat I always tell my players, if you wanted to pay you like a business, you
1:12:56
gotta treat it like a business.
1:12:57
You gotta go to work, every day, perfecting your craft.
1:13:01
You know?
1:13:02
And Jefferson does.
1:13:03
He does do that.
1:13:04
He does put in the work.
1:13:06
Addison just like you said, I I think he's just you know, that one year of success kinda got to
1:13:14
his head.
1:13:14
I mean, what was it?
1:13:16
Last year, he got that speeding ticket because of the the dog needed to go to the yeah.
1:13:22
Dog.
1:13:23
Happened to that dog?
1:13:24
What happened to that dog?
1:13:25
You know?
1:13:25
We never heard nothing.
1:13:27
Like, what are you what are you doing?
1:13:28
You know what I'm saying?
1:13:29
But that's, that's also where he needs some mentorship.
1:13:33
He needs, a Jefferson to just be like, hey, man.
1:13:37
Like, instead of going out doing some dumb shit, why don't you why don't we kick it?
1:13:41
You know?
1:13:41
Why don't we just go work out?
1:13:44
Go go train?
1:13:45
You know?
1:13:47
But, yeah, you you always have to keep like I said earlier, the game's always evolving, so
1:13:52
you have to.
1:13:53
There's nuances, all the time.
1:13:58
You know, I personally, in arena football, you know, the my d b's, I love my tall d b's just
1:14:05
because, you know, the the speed of some of them, the length, their jumping ability, it
1:14:12
just gives us that much more of an edge.
1:14:17
Yeah.
1:14:18
I mean, as a fan, I mean, we we saw this happen back when Moss came in.
1:14:23
Everybody started getting the taller dBs because especially the division, they wanted to
1:14:28
stop Moss.
1:14:28
That was their whole game plan.
1:14:30
You know?
1:14:31
Now when you go up against the Mike did that.
1:14:33
Yeah.
1:14:33
Packers did it.
1:14:34
The Packers did that.
1:14:35
They just kept drafting DBS.
1:14:37
Yep.
1:14:37
Yep.
1:14:38
You know?
1:14:39
And, I mean, honestly, what I would do if I'm a Viking or going up against the Vikings, I'm
1:14:45
just putting pressure on the offense, you know, because right now, they're showing that they
1:14:48
can't stop anybody.
1:14:50
So, I mean, the defense is scary.
1:14:52
I like the defense.
1:14:54
How do you go from four three to four or 14 to three to four and eight?
1:15:01
Have you watched the season?
1:15:02
That's how you do it.
1:15:03
I mean Well, and You know, when when you got two of the worst games a quarterback can do and
1:15:11
they come out and compare it to it, the quarterback would've dropped back and and and
1:15:14
touch on ground the ball 20 times, the quarterback really would've been better.
1:15:19
How is that possible?
1:15:20
I I don't know.
1:15:21
I I think that's a funny step, but
1:15:25
yeah.
1:15:25
That's ridiculous.
1:15:27
It is it is ridiculous.
1:15:28
It is ridiculous.
1:15:31
But, yeah, there there's something I mean, we're not in the locker room.
1:15:34
We can only you know?
1:15:37
But, you know, every time they show the win, the team's all hyped up and, you know, they're
1:15:42
getting the game balls and stuff.
1:15:43
And I I just, you know, I just don't know what this team is doing.
1:15:50
No.
1:15:50
And it unraveled this season in so many ways.
1:15:53
I mean, I don't think Darisaw was ready to come back losing not having Addison for those first
1:15:59
three games, and then Naylor getting hurt caused you to make a bad decision on the
1:16:03
Thielen.
1:16:04
I don't know why you let Harrison Phillips go.
1:16:06
Is it just a roster spot when and then this year starting out, you can't stop anybody
1:16:12
running the ball, and he was by far your best run defender on the line.
1:16:16
Right?
1:16:17
So it's
1:16:17
like I know, like, there have been a lot of bad decisions.
1:16:20
And
1:16:20
it's They may beat John Rod Robinson looks like Barry Sanders.
1:16:25
I mean, he ran all over us.
1:16:27
I know.
1:16:28
I love that.
1:16:28
He's on my fantasy team.
1:16:29
But, yeah,
1:16:30
he he he was a throwback to bear.
1:16:33
Yeah.
1:16:33
They couldn't stop him.
1:16:36
You know, I mean, even week one, I don't know how what happened in that fourth quarter or
1:16:41
second half.
1:16:42
I mean, we look like a totally different team that, you know, it's just like, okay.
1:16:45
We got it.
1:16:46
You know, JJ looks like he can, you know, definitely bring us back if times are needed,
1:16:50
then he goes out and does a disappearing act and, you know, that's what he does.
1:16:57
Now, coach, I I
1:16:58
know we didn't want you know, obviously, we just started the show a few weeks ago, but are
1:17:03
do you go back and watch the game film?
1:17:05
Did you see anything in the I mean, it it almost seemed like and they were talking about
1:17:11
this on Purple Daily too is that you kinda skipped steps.
1:17:14
Right?
1:17:14
And and you kinda caught a little bit of lightning in a bottle maybe with that bears
1:17:18
game, and KOC's like, alright.
1:17:20
The kid's ready for everything.
1:17:23
And
1:17:23
100%.
1:17:24
And he wasn't.
1:17:27
Yeah.
1:17:28
No.
1:17:29
I definitely.
1:17:31
But it's weird.
1:17:33
I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but, yeah, we we came back, you know, and then
1:17:39
that fourth quarter magic happened.
1:17:41
We got that win, but it just didn't feel right.
1:17:44
It didn't feel like like, yeah, he had a a couple touchdowns, ran one in, whatever, but it
1:17:51
just it just felt like he caught fire for that split second.
1:17:55
Yep.
1:17:56
You know?
1:17:57
But it didn't feel good having that win, to me at least.
1:18:01
I was just kinda still on edge like, I don't know if what we got plus, you know, nobody knew
1:18:09
the bears were gonna have the season that they're having.
1:18:11
Yeah.
1:18:12
You know?
1:18:12
So I'm just going in there thinking that
1:18:14
Half the season.
1:18:15
Yeah.
1:18:16
Facts.
1:18:16
But, also Yeah.
1:18:17
That's the parody of the NFL.
1:18:18
They are playing a last play schedule because they were so historically bad last year, and
1:18:23
you can only beat the teams that are in front of you.
1:18:25
But I think that
1:18:26
kinda sets us up a little bit for next year, right, where we're gonna be coming from that
1:18:29
worst position.
1:18:31
We can fix this.
1:18:32
The schedule I mean, you're already starting to see where we're shaking out because of the way
1:18:36
the schedule is made in the NFL.
1:18:38
You have a pretty good idea of who you're playing the following season even right now.
1:18:43
Not the order necessarily of where we're playing them in, but you know the that you're
1:18:47
going to be playing except for, I think, maybe four kinda wild cards in there.
1:18:51
Right?
1:18:52
So we're looking at the teams that we're going to be playing next year and seeing some
1:18:56
favorable matchups at least on paper.
1:18:59
Right?
1:18:59
So if you can right the ship, so to say, over this offseason, we could be the team next year
1:19:05
that goes worst to first.
1:19:07
It happens.
1:19:08
It happens every season that a team does this in their division and catches fire.
1:19:13
And I've honestly, that's, like, the only thing we got to look forward to now.
1:19:16
I mean, we're going on full draft coverage.
1:19:18
We we barely even we're not even talking about next week because what's there to talk about?
1:19:22
I hope they lose.
1:19:23
Right?
1:19:24
Like, we kinda hope they see some a little bit of improvement, lose the game, and can KOC run
1:19:30
the ball more than more than 10 times?
1:19:32
Can he run the ball double digit attempts?
1:19:35
Well, I and I think that's a key factor is you gotta start running the ball.
1:19:38
Ron sets up the pass, passes up the run.
1:19:40
I mean, it's been set for years.
1:19:42
And, actually, I'd like the two running backs we got if they stay healthy.
1:19:46
I mean, when we saw when the Vikings signed Madison or, Mason, I was just like, alright.
1:19:51
We got a good running back.
1:19:53
Jones gets the bulk of the carries.
1:19:55
We need a deep threat run.
1:19:57
We got Mason there.
1:19:59
I thought the gonna be solid this year.
1:20:03
Yeah.
1:20:04
I'm gonna push back on the end of this.
1:20:05
He says KOC wants the kids to struggle until they figure it out.
1:20:09
I don't think he wants them to figure it out.
1:20:11
I think he wants to fucking get rid of both of them and to have a to have a, a veteran in
1:20:18
there that can that he can be you know?
1:20:21
It's funny.
1:20:22
I'm gonna make a political reference, and I'm not gonna make a habit of doing this.
1:20:25
But when Obama was in office, he talked about, you know, oh, I just wanna be the guy that's,
1:20:29
know, pulling the strings in the background and have a puppet.
1:20:32
And then we got to live through that.
1:20:33
We all saw how that went.
1:20:34
But I feel like that's what KOC wants to do with the quarterback.
1:20:38
Right?
1:20:38
As he wants a guy that's seen it all, that when he spits in the jargon to him, that KOC, he
1:20:45
wants to be the quarterback so fucking bad, man Mhmm.
1:20:48
That that's how you get this.
1:20:50
He's playing Madden.
1:20:51
He's smashing, spamming that pass button.
1:20:53
Right?
1:20:54
And it's just I it's hard to watch, man.
1:20:57
These last two weeks
1:20:58
I don't think he wants the the quarterbacks to fail.
1:21:00
I I mean, you definitely want them to learn and, you know, I think a good veteran that's
1:21:06
been around for a while.
1:21:08
Yeah.
1:21:08
We could throw out Aaron Rodgers' name.
1:21:10
There's some other ones.
1:21:11
But, honestly, you know, we've talked about this on Coast to Coastal quite a bit.
1:21:16
The Packers have the best quarterback system to date.
1:21:20
You know, you had Bar.
1:21:22
Rodgers sat behind him for a few years, then you get Roger's out there.
1:21:26
Roger's plays.
1:21:27
You get Love.
1:21:28
Love sat behind him for a few years.
1:21:30
Now he's in that's what that's what a lot of team need to look at is, you know, let's get a
1:21:36
veteran.
1:21:36
Let's groom somebody behind.
1:21:39
Yeah.
1:21:39
We took a tenth round or a tenth overall pick to get JJ.
1:21:43
You know, was it worth it?
1:21:45
I mean, the year before that we draft or not year before.
1:21:48
Year before we drafted JJ.
1:21:50
We drafted who was that quarterback that only played a half a game?
1:21:55
Oh.
1:21:57
Hall?
1:21:58
Darren Hall.
1:21:59
Yeah.
1:21:59
Darren Hall.
1:22:00
Yeah.
1:22:01
Yeah.
1:22:01
I really I had high hopes for him.
1:22:03
Yeah.
1:22:03
And he only played a half game, then we caught him.
1:22:05
It's just like, you know, again, that goes back to the scouting.
1:22:09
You guys see these guys.
1:22:10
You guys play.
1:22:11
I was honestly hoping that the Vikings would've took Shadira Sanders in the fifth, sixth round.
1:22:16
It's just like, what do we got to lose if Well,
1:22:17
Well, you know, You
1:22:20
know, I didn't want him early, but it's just like he fell that far.
1:22:22
It's like, Mike, he's just drafted him, and let's see what he could do, you know, if
1:22:25
needed.
1:22:27
Right.
1:22:28
Yeah.
1:22:28
No.
1:22:28
I, you know, it's it's funny.
1:22:32
You know, everyone's, oh, a KOC is the quarterback whisperer.
1:22:37
Like you said, with quarterbacks that have already been in the league that can take his,
1:22:42
verbiage and just run with it and not really have to be coached.
1:22:48
But now he's finally, you know, getting the other side of it, dealing with a rookie
1:22:52
quarterback, and he's like, oh, shit.
1:22:55
You know?
1:22:56
Kinda just stuck.
1:22:58
And I don't know if he's that type of coach.
1:23:02
I don't know if he's that guy.
1:23:05
He's kinda proven that he's not, coach.
1:23:07
He Right.
1:23:08
And you and you have to be.
1:23:09
And he's gonna throw the ball 80% of the time.
1:23:13
I mean, it's he would throw up in his mouth.
1:23:16
If he like, the bears the bears, play, you know, the play calling against the eagles and
1:23:22
running for 260 yards, he probably threw up watching that game.
1:23:26
Right?
1:23:27
Like, just I can't believe they're gonna hand it off again.
1:23:29
I can't believe, like
1:23:31
Right.
1:23:32
But in the and with your comment earlier about playing Madden, you know, we've all played
1:23:38
Madden.
1:23:38
And if you're a diehard Madden fan, you'll play, you know, you'll get so good.
1:23:44
You're just like, I'm him.
1:23:45
And you'll start a franchise with, one of the absolute worst teams or a team with a rookie
1:23:51
quarterback.
1:23:53
The one of the hardest ones was was Madden o six with the superstar mode, the QB vision.
1:23:59
If you had a rookie quarterback and he was trash, that was rough.
1:24:03
Okay?
1:24:04
But even when playing Madden, like, that's manageable.
1:24:07
It's it's not this god awful ugly.
1:24:10
This is ridiculous.
1:24:11
This is embarrassing football.
1:24:14
Did he reference in one of his interviews this last few days that he was thinking about maybe
1:24:20
dumbing down the playbook and making it easier?
1:24:23
Yeah, man.
1:24:23
He had a moment.
1:24:24
Well and he had that oh, shit moment.
1:24:26
The problem is he he needed to have that oh, shit moment four weeks ago.
1:24:30
Maybe after the Atlanta game.
1:24:32
Right?
1:24:32
Like, maybe before, like because the wheels were coming off of this team early.
1:24:37
And I thought that week two Atlanta game exposed a lot of things and to just be so I
1:24:44
don't know what it is.
1:24:45
Purple colored glasses or your head should Carefree.
1:24:48
Up that coach of the year trophy's ass that you can't figure it out.
1:24:53
But, yeah, he he was stubborn, and now the season's lost.
1:24:57
Right?
1:24:58
And, unfortunately, we don't the measure of the man, as far as KOC goes is the rest of the
1:25:04
season.
1:25:05
Can he change his mind?
1:25:07
Can he bring something different to the table and make JJ look like something?
1:25:13
And because I don't think that you go and rent a quarterback this year and it changes much for
1:25:17
next year.
1:25:18
I don't think it does.
1:25:19
I think that, like, best case scenario,
1:25:21
this Who's out there that we could bring in?
1:25:23
I mean Well
1:25:25
I haven't even looked.
1:25:26
I'm not even gonna lie.
1:25:27
No.
1:25:27
It's not good.
1:25:28
And this year's draft classic QBs isn't good either.
1:25:31
So and you're gonna not gonna be in a range to draft one anyway.
1:25:35
So, like, the best case scenario for this team is that you're able to see JJ start to turn a
1:25:40
corner in these last few weeks.
1:25:42
You start to see KOC maybe change his play calling style a little bit here and to open up
1:25:49
his mind to the fact that you're going to have to change.
1:25:52
Like, you have to be the one to change this, but he's shown nothing to the fact that he
1:25:57
might do that.
1:25:58
This is the first time I've ever heard him, and I didn't watch the press conference, but he's
1:26:01
not a humble coach.
1:26:03
He likes to put the blame everywhere else but on himself.
1:26:06
And I and from what I heard
1:26:08
There's been a few times where he's put the blame on him, but, I mean, it could just be
1:26:12
coach talk.
1:26:13
I mean
1:26:14
That's most likely coach talk.
1:26:16
You gotta take accountability, though, at some point.
1:26:19
And why not do something different?
1:26:22
Why not try it?
1:26:23
You have nothing to lose at this point.
1:26:26
I know a lot of fans are looking for a top 10 draft pick or something like that, but it's
1:26:31
just the Minnesota thing to screw that up too.
1:26:34
Watch us get a 15 to 18 number pick.
1:26:39
It's just trash.
1:26:40
Well, the thing is they got they their their first over or their first pick this year has to
1:26:45
be the best offensive lineman out there.
1:26:48
I mean, that's that's where I'm going.
1:26:51
You know?
1:26:51
But I think we kinda already commented on that comment where we he's proven that he can take a
1:26:58
quarterback that's been in the league and, you know I mean, look what Mhmm.
1:27:01
Dobbs did the game and a half that he played coming in a week.
1:27:05
Yeah.
1:27:06
But even even that, look at what happened to Dobbs' consecutive games.
1:27:10
Like, eventually, teams figure that out, and he maybe tries to accelerate.
1:27:14
And maybe that was because it was a dumb down playbook.
1:27:17
And, honestly, those games that Dobbs won, he was running all over the place playing street
1:27:21
ball.
1:27:21
Right?
1:27:22
Facts.
1:27:22
John Dobbs
1:27:23
won those games, not necessarily the quarterback whisperer.
1:27:27
So I I think there's just been all that early success, I think, went to his head, that coach
1:27:33
of the year, 14 wins last year, man.
1:27:36
Everything was cooking last year.
1:27:38
And this year, those wheels came off.
1:27:40
Now you still have a good defense.
1:27:41
I think that's the biggest question is this beeflows last year.
1:27:45
Right?
1:27:45
Does he finally move on?
1:27:47
Does he get the head coaching gig somewhere?
1:27:50
I think as long as you have an open lawsuit against this against the league, you probably
1:27:55
odds are he doesn't.
1:27:56
But does B flow stick around, or are you looking at a new defensive coordinator in this
1:28:01
offseason as well?
1:28:02
In which case, man, where what what do you even do?
1:28:07
Right?
1:28:07
Like, this offseason could absolutely fracture and shatter any hopes that you had of a
1:28:13
championship in the twenty twenties.
1:28:16
I just bring a
1:28:17
days.
1:28:18
I
1:28:19
I think that Bring him on as head coach.
1:28:23
Bring him on as head coach.
1:28:25
Because then you keep him you keep him, you keep that defense.
1:28:29
You can get a new offensive coach.
1:28:31
You know?
1:28:32
Who is the offensive coordinator for us for the Vikings?
1:28:35
West Phillips.
1:28:36
Wait.
1:28:36
Yeah.
1:28:37
West Phillips.
1:28:37
Coordinator.
1:28:38
Yeah.
1:28:39
But it's all everything runs through k o c.
1:28:41
Yeah.
1:28:41
Everyone's there as a mentor, I think, to Kevin.
1:28:46
And, you know, and, honestly, I don't think it's his system.
1:28:50
I think the system is solid.
1:28:52
Honestly, I think it just comes down to his play calling.
1:28:55
And and especially, I like the play calling in that first half against the packers.
1:28:59
They were run heavy.
1:29:00
They got them down.
1:29:01
But the man gets inside of the 40 moving on the offensive side of the field, and it's pass,
1:29:06
pass, pass, shotgun, shotgun, shotgun, and he thinks that he's back there.
1:29:11
Right?
1:29:11
And that's why I say it's like the disconnect between, like, what's working on the field and
1:29:16
what's going on inside of his head as a play caller are so far away from each other.
1:29:23
And then you go out with an undrafted rookie QB in Seattle this week, and you pass the ball 40
1:29:30
times and and run the ball.
1:29:31
You ran six attempts?
1:29:33
Six attempts?
1:29:35
Yeah.
1:29:37
Yeah.
1:29:40
It's it's just ridiculous.
1:29:41
And it we we keep on bringing the the coach of the year up, and I just find it disturbing that
1:29:52
we can go he can go from coach of the year to this and not have made an adjustment by now of
1:30:01
some sort.
1:30:03
You know, I I feel like he's gotta start showing any adjustments, small, big, whatever.
1:30:11
Just show us something different to save his ass because, I mean, people are gonna start
1:30:18
people are already saying, was that a fluke that coached the year?
1:30:21
Was it only because of the defense?
1:30:23
Who's this?
1:30:23
What's this?
1:30:24
What The alcoholic West Phillips is our offense
1:30:28
And their and the thing is, you know, we're all
1:30:30
than everyone in this fan base and alcoholics this season.
1:30:34
Well, the thing is is we just talked about Philip of what's his face?
1:30:40
Defense coordinator.
1:30:41
Flores.
1:30:42
Flores being out.
1:30:44
What about the heart of the defense?
1:30:45
The guy that's been here for the longest time.
1:30:47
You know, Harrison Smith, I mean, he's said this is his last year.
1:30:51
So, you know, they got a big hole shoot a fill on that side with the player standpoint on
1:30:56
somebody that's respectful and been there that could show the leadership like the hitman does.
1:31:01
So, I mean, that defense could look totally different next year.
1:31:05
You know?
1:31:06
I wanna speak on that real quick.
1:31:07
Shout out to Harrison Smith for doing it the right way his whole career.
1:31:12
He didn't leave for the money or anything.
1:31:15
Didn't leave because things got tough.
1:31:17
You know?
1:31:18
He was here, before Thielen, and things were even tougher.
1:31:22
You know?
1:31:23
So I just I hate to say anything bad about Dylan, but damn, man.
1:31:32
That was a bad look.
1:31:33
That was a bad look.
1:31:36
I don't I don't care.
1:31:37
That was a bad look.
1:31:38
One thing to have conversations behind closed doors.
1:31:43
It's another thing to let those things come to light.
1:31:46
Right?
1:31:46
Like, they made a conscious decision to put that all out there.
1:31:51
And Quaysen I don't know if Quaysen's throwing Adam under the bus and their camp or or
1:31:55
whatever it is, but I I think the PR looks awful on on everyone.
1:32:01
And that's why I was saying today that, like, I'm surprised there wasn't a statement from the
1:32:05
team directly behind that one from Quasi that was Quasi's pink slip.
1:32:11
But that that alludes to the bigger factor, and we kind of addressed it earlier as,
1:32:14
like Yeah.
1:32:15
Yeah.
1:32:15
If you if you cut bait, you almost have to do it now.
1:32:19
Look at that.
1:32:19
It's a rookie card from thirty years.
1:32:21
No.
1:32:22
That's not the rookie card.
1:32:23
That's just, I wish it was, but, you know, you know, he's gonna be a big miss next year, I
1:32:29
think.
1:32:30
Well, this defense regressed this year already.
1:32:32
Yep.
1:32:34
Byron Murphy, what happened to you?
1:32:36
You know?
1:32:37
Going six picks, Pro Bowl, and you can't even find a pick.
1:32:42
Well, pressure last year.
1:32:43
And and, really, it comes down to a lot of factors.
1:32:46
Right?
1:32:47
No third quarterback.
1:32:48
Right?
1:32:49
No Cam Bynum.
1:32:50
Yep.
1:32:50
Allows you to not just match up man on man and be able to rush everybody and to throw six,
1:32:55
seven people at them.
1:32:56
So you had to change defensive schemes.
1:32:58
This defense is completely different this year from what we saw last year.
1:33:02
Last year was all chaos.
1:33:04
This year, it's been more rushing the four down linemen, maybe a blitzer here and there.
1:33:08
You're counting on Greinhard, Van Ginkle, now a Dallas Turner to get home a little bit more,
1:33:14
but you don't have the dogs on that defensive line to put on consistent pressure.
1:33:19
Right?
1:33:19
You're not gonna I don't think anybody's gonna get double digit sacks on that line.
1:33:22
This I mean, Dallas Turner's your sack leader at six.
1:33:25
Maybe he gets four more over the course of the rest of the season.
1:33:28
He he's turned out.
1:33:29
He's turned his, season around.
1:33:32
He turned it on.
1:33:33
Yeah.
1:33:33
Bust, and he's turned it around last few weeks.
1:33:35
So
1:33:36
But that comes to coaching too.
1:33:37
Like, why did he not get that opportunity until it was injuries to Grunard and Van Ginkle and
1:33:43
and all of these you know?
1:33:45
Yeah.
1:33:46
It just When he when he got drafted, he he he learned it.
1:33:50
He basically learned a new position when he got drafted.
1:33:53
So, I mean, that learning curve for it to be, what, a year and a half, It is what it is.
1:34:02
The one guy I'm really disappointed in that turned it around for the worst was, Isaiah
1:34:07
Rogers.
1:34:08
I mean, he starts off the year on fire, you know, interceptions, that pick six.
1:34:14
And then this last game against Seattle, I mean, the dude's getting trucked out the club.
1:34:19
Literally.
1:34:21
You know, missed tackle and stuff that just trucked out the club.
1:34:24
Well
1:34:25
and to speak on that, Pete, Pace, I think, was really good in that gadget role.
1:34:30
You had two guys.
1:34:31
You got Mattelis and Pace that were both kinda like positionless players
1:34:35
last year.
1:34:37
Kind of in that rover, and they were impactful because they were a a too fast linebacker or a
1:34:44
oversized safety.
1:34:46
Right?
1:34:46
And you can kinda mix and match them in there.
1:34:48
Mhmm.
1:34:48
The problem with this year, you're trying to match up, you know, kinda man on man with these
1:34:53
teams now, and people are playing in a position instead of in this just chaotic thing.
1:34:59
And the quarterbacks veteran quarterbacks have plenty of time.
1:35:03
They're gonna pick you apart, and this defense just got exposed.
1:35:06
And you got exposed by the lack of talent because where's your second string?
1:35:10
Who is the second string defenders on this team?
1:35:13
Who like, where the is the talent?
1:35:16
And that's that's a front office issue.
1:35:19
Right?
1:35:19
Like, that's a that's an issue.
1:35:21
You got tired old defense out there, and it's not gonna get any better.
1:35:25
Like, you are you need you're talking about draft and offensive linemen.
1:35:30
I don't think I think you're looking running back maybe.
1:35:32
We had someone throw that up here.
1:35:34
Jeremy Love running back on the draft.
1:35:37
I don't know enough about some of these players.
1:35:39
We're gonna start digging into draft coverage here soon, obviously, because we have nothing
1:35:43
else to talk about with this team.
1:35:45
But you need a safety.
1:35:48
You need a cornerback or two.
1:35:51
You need a lot of pieces, and I think you got some good pieces.
1:35:55
The offensive line was just hurt.
1:35:58
It was just hurt, man.
1:35:59
You know, Darisol was never a 100% this year.
1:36:02
Jackson looked good when he was out there, but now he's been hurt, banged up a couple of times
1:36:07
this year.
1:36:08
Shout out to his mom.
1:36:09
Did you guys see the video of her pulling out the syrup on the pancake block?
1:36:13
Yes.
1:36:14
Yes.
1:36:14
Oh, no.
1:36:14
I missed it.
1:36:15
I missed it.
1:36:16
Oh, yes.
1:36:19
Man.
1:36:19
Oh, b.
1:36:20
I'll have to send you that video.
1:36:22
Okay.
1:36:22
Alright.
1:36:23
They got a video of her in the stands, and shout out to NFL Films who obviously got
1:36:28
cameras on everybody.
1:36:30
But they were at one of the games recently, at US Bank, and he had had a pancake block, and
1:36:37
mom was in the stands going, that's up here.
1:36:39
Get the syrup out.
1:36:40
And she, like, pulled it out of the holster.
1:36:42
Oh, dude.
1:36:42
It's so fucking adorable, man.
1:36:44
I wanna get her on the show so bad.
1:36:47
So bad.
1:36:48
I'm trying to find mama Jackson and bring her in.
1:36:52
But, yeah, man, this this season just been it hasn't been one thing.
1:36:56
And I think that's what a lot of fans wanted to do is just put it all on the young quarterback
1:37:01
and McCarthy's trash.
1:37:03
And, I don't know if you were here when sir Picasso was on with us, but he was preaching
1:37:07
patience with the young man.
1:37:09
You know?
1:37:09
22 years old, was supposed to get a red shirt year last year, got hurt, didn't practice.
1:37:16
And I've said all along, like, he looks like a kid who hasn't played football in a year.
1:37:20
You know what I mean?
1:37:21
Like, he looks like somebody coming back from an injury and being thrown into a position
1:37:25
that's just, I mean, get
1:37:27
him preseason.
1:37:29
He definitely should have got some issues.
1:37:31
Highest of expectations.
1:37:33
People are talking Super Bowl.
1:37:35
The team is setting those expectations.
1:37:37
Right?
1:37:37
And Well,
1:37:38
I know what media was too.
1:37:39
I mean, you know, local media was
1:37:43
was your year.
1:37:44
Last year was your fucking year, man.
1:37:46
You had the opportunity.
1:37:47
You won 14 games.
1:37:49
You got the they got the buy or no.
1:37:51
They ended up playing the wild card round.
1:37:52
Yeah.
1:37:54
Lose it to Dallas.
1:37:56
LA last year.
1:37:58
Right?
1:37:58
Because the game had to get moved.
1:38:00
Isn't that what happened as it was in Atlanta?
1:38:03
I still think our year was
1:38:06
Sorry.
1:38:07
Arizona?
1:38:08
Our year was 2012.
1:38:10
All we gotta do is make that kick.
1:38:12
All you gotta do is make the kick, man.
1:38:14
9899, Anderson.
1:38:17
I mean
1:38:17
Oh, yeah.
1:38:19
I remember that one.
1:38:20
Oh, man.
1:38:23
Bea, I appreciate you joining us tonight, man.
1:38:25
You're always welcome on our stream, and I'd love to come on and talk any sports, man.
1:38:30
I'm I mostly root for Chicago teams.
1:38:33
I left the bears last year because I just couldn't do it.
1:38:36
Of course, I blessed them by not being a fan this year, and they'll probably win it all.
1:38:40
So fuck me.
1:38:41
Right?
1:38:41
But I will And that and that's the thing is everybody, you know, you know, give me crap
1:38:46
because I'm Minnesota guy.
1:38:47
It's just like, realistically, I like my Minnesota sports.
1:38:51
I want my home team to do good.
1:38:53
But if I can sit down and watch a good game, I care less who wins.
1:38:57
I'm more just a sports fan.
1:38:59
I think if anything, I'm more of a twins fan than just a Vikings fan because I grew up
1:39:03
baseball my whole life.
1:39:05
But, yeah, to watch the Vikings, it is just like, oh, you know, who should I root for next
1:39:11
year?
1:39:11
I mean but no.
1:39:13
No.
1:39:13
It's great to be on.
1:39:14
I mean, yeah, definitely.
1:39:16
You guys let me know when you're on.
1:39:17
If I got free time, I'll definitely jump on and talk sports.
1:39:19
I I definitely love talking sports.
1:39:22
Every Tuesday, eight to ten.
1:39:24
Okay.
1:39:24
I'm normally home by then.
1:39:26
So
1:39:27
Bet.
1:39:27
Alright.
1:39:28
Well, everybody, that's Big B with the Coast to Coast Sports Network.
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1:39:39
Bee, pleasure getting to know you, man.
1:39:40
We'll see you soon.
1:39:42
Yeah.
1:39:42
No problem.
1:39:42
Have a
1:39:43
good one.
1:39:44
Later, man.
1:39:46
Oh, coach.
1:39:47
That was awesome, man.
1:39:48
I really appreciate, you've had some homies dropping in here on the show, and this was
1:39:54
cool, man.
1:39:55
I'm glad we decided to do this.
1:39:58
Absolutely.
1:39:59
You know, short notice, but we make it happen.
1:40:03
Yeah.
1:40:03
Well, when the time is right and the moments present themselves, you gotta be able to
1:40:08
capitalize.
1:40:08
And I think that is you know, that's a great lesson to learn from football.
1:40:13
Right?
1:40:13
Like, you know, and things that we've addressed last year a lot, but the Vikings last year
1:40:18
capitalized on those big moments.
1:40:20
Right?
1:40:20
They they were able to take those short fields, convert them into touchdowns, and to create
1:40:25
takeaways and to do all those things.
1:40:27
And this year, you haven't had an answer.
1:40:30
The offense hasn't had an answer when things haven't gone right.
1:40:35
And that's, you know, unfortunately, the head coach is gonna have to learn some hard lessons
1:40:40
and hopefully make some adjustments.
1:40:42
If he doesn't the rest of this year and he just runs out there and we see a repeat of the last
1:40:48
two weeks, man, this fan base is tuning out, and they're calling for his head on a platter
1:40:52
at the end of the season with Queasy too.
1:40:55
Right?
1:40:55
Like, I don't think that's warranted.
1:40:57
I think KOC as a leader of men still has something.
1:41:01
I think he can control a locker room.
1:41:03
But when people start to doubt you as a play caller, and maybe you can speak to this a
1:41:07
little bit, does it fracture their trust in you as the leader of the locker room as well?
1:41:13
Absolutely.
1:41:15
You know, that fractures the the trust, just not having that voice.
1:41:20
You know, you can you can talk all you want, but if it's only being heard surface level,
1:41:26
it's just pointless.
1:41:28
So, you you know, play calling just every everything that you do as a coach is gonna,
1:41:37
gain trust from your players.
1:41:40
And play calling is a big thing because, that that's how you get your results and end up
1:41:45
getting your dubs in the process.
1:41:47
But, definitely, you know, there's some players in that locker room right now that, you know,
1:41:56
are questioning many things, not just the play calls.
1:42:02
You know, I heard I think Speedy Naylor was being interviewed, and he had mentioned how the
1:42:11
play calls, something about the play calls, were getting messed up.
1:42:15
I don't know if it was, just how Max Brosmer was relaying the play call or, you know, the
1:42:24
fact they sometimes didn't even have enough time to get to the line and make an adjustment
1:42:29
or something.
1:42:30
But Which
1:42:31
was an issue with JJ earlier in this
1:42:33
Yeah.
1:42:33
Yeah.
1:42:34
So it's I mean It's been a trend.
1:42:37
It's been a trend.
1:42:40
I I don't know.
1:42:41
I would hate to be I feel like they're just they weren't prepared for the season.
1:42:47
You know, ex expect the or prepare for the best, expect the worst type of thing.
1:42:53
I I can't butcher that probably, but, you know, thinking everything's all good and then,
1:43:01
bringing in Carson Wentz, like, he he couldn't have brought in anyone better.
1:43:08
Created for Sam Howell.
1:43:10
Like, you you like, there's been so many mistakes.
1:43:13
Like, it's hard to keep track of them all from a from an organizational standpoint that, like,
1:43:19
it's been hard to keep track of all of this.
1:43:22
And how do they how do they get it turned around?
1:43:25
I mean, we are a few I mean, we're starting to count down the weeks until the draft at this
1:43:29
point.
1:43:30
Right?
1:43:30
Like, there's a limited amount of time to figure out who you're going to put in these
1:43:34
places to get that big board together, you know, your top 100 and picking them.
1:43:39
And I know you've never necessarily had to go through that process.
1:43:42
In your years of being a football fan, have you done mock drafts and kinda follow those college
1:43:48
players and put together some stuff like that?
1:43:51
Absolutely.
1:43:53
You know, especially in Madden, you know, download the newest, draft class or whatever.
1:44:01
I'll start scouting them.
1:44:02
You know?
1:44:03
I'm the one saving before the draft and then going in and seeing what I can do.
1:44:08
I might not like the results.
1:44:09
I'll just back out and redo it.
1:44:11
It is what it is.
1:44:12
I'll admit it.
1:44:13
But, yeah, the the best thing that we got going on right now is the the amount of draft picks
1:44:21
that we have.
1:44:22
Now the question is, are we gonna turn them into something?
1:44:25
Are we gonna use some of those later round picks to package up and move into the first or
1:44:29
move back into the second and try to get more quality players?
1:44:33
It's cool that we have 10 draft picks.
1:44:35
It increases your, you know, your probability of landing on one, but, you know, the it's the
1:44:41
quality, you know, the value of those picks.
1:44:44
Yeah.
1:44:45
Having 10 picks and seven of them being in the fifth through seventh round.
1:44:49
Exactly.
1:44:50
Exactly.
1:44:51
It's it's that's just useless.
1:44:53
You might as well package those up for next year's pick, you know, in a earlier round.
1:44:59
But I just I hope we I hope we do make a couple moves, use some of those picks, and move up
1:45:08
and, you know, just try to bolster this offensive line, help out the defense.
1:45:15
Offensive line and defense as a whole need to be helped.
1:45:18
Everything else is just fine.
1:45:20
Well and, unfortunately, they're not gonna be high enough to where trading back even becomes
1:45:26
an you know what I mean?
1:45:27
To try
1:45:27
and get an
1:45:28
extra first and a second or something, that first pick is probably gonna be somewhere
1:45:32
between six and ten, I would imagine right now, or six and twelve.
1:45:36
I think right now, it's looking like twelfth will probably be the lowest or you know what I
1:45:41
mean?
1:45:41
The farthest away from the top that we'll be picking because of the way schedules and
1:45:45
records are sitting right now.
1:45:48
I mean, we got what?
1:45:49
One win maybe, the commanders, who are completely depleted and kinda get but they just
1:45:53
took the broncos.
1:45:55
I was just gonna say.
1:45:56
Right?
1:45:57
To magic.
1:45:59
I mean, you know, I like you said, we we've at this point, just finished four and thirteen.
1:46:05
Right?
1:46:05
Like, who cares?
1:46:06
Who cares if you would lose five more games?
1:46:08
Where why
1:46:08
do we give a shit?
1:46:09
And it's healthy.
1:46:11
It's all done.
1:46:12
Everybody's tuning out.
1:46:14
So, coach, we're gonna put you to work.
1:46:15
We're gonna be doing a lot of draft coverage.
1:46:17
You're gonna educate me on how to watch players and how to watch tape.
1:46:20
I hope we get a couple of sessions, to sit down and to do that and
1:46:24
watch some
1:46:24
of this college stuff.
1:46:25
And for me, I I wanna get to know the game better.
1:46:28
I I as a fan, as someone who didn't necessarily play the game at a high level, but I've been
1:46:33
able to watch like I said, shout out to draft doctor Phil and everything that he's done to
1:46:37
educate that bears fan base, and that's how I kinda came into wanting to even do a football
1:46:43
show.
1:46:44
And so, yeah, I'm looking forward to spending a lot of time with you, going over things,
1:46:49
sharing that with our people here every Tuesday from eight till.
1:46:54
And then, you know, obviously getting together before games two hours before kickoff and,
1:47:00
really getting our preview time done in that.
1:47:03
So, coach, amazing.
1:47:07
This went so good tonight.
1:47:09
I'm saying.
1:47:10
I'm saying.
1:47:11
I feel the exact same way.
1:47:12
I think it's the start of something special, and let's just keep on riding this wave.
1:47:19
You know what I'm saying?
1:47:20
Let's You guys I almost forgot.
1:47:23
You wanted to do a segment, and because we had the guests on and everything that we almost
1:47:27
didn't get to it.
1:47:28
But I made this graphic, and I'll be damned if I'm not gonna get to use it.
1:47:33
So
1:47:34
You teach them the little teaching lesson.
1:47:38
Let's do it.
1:47:39
Alright.
1:47:40
So this is our new segment, the Goother, the Eeler, the Yoder.
1:47:46
That's the good, the bad, and the ugly from coach Cody.
1:47:51
Have to glad you know how to say that.
1:47:55
I had to chat GPT and and have it say it to me, like, four times.
1:48:00
But I figured, right, we we have something.
1:48:03
You know, we all speak a little Norwegian, because we can skull, and I thought it would be
1:48:09
a fun way to bring it and bring a little levity to the situation.
1:48:13
I mean, this you can't do anything but laugh.
1:48:16
Right?
1:48:16
It's like, what what was that?
1:48:19
It it was such a I'm not gonna sit here and be mad anymore.
1:48:23
I think as a Vikings fan base, we're pretty apathetic at this point to the whole situation,
1:48:30
and let's just kinda get it over with.
1:48:32
So, coach, you wanted to do the good, the bad, and the ugly from last week.
1:48:36
I'm gonna kinda let you tell us what, what your plan is for this, and, we'll take it from
1:48:41
there.
1:48:42
Yeah.
1:48:43
No.
1:48:44
So, yeah, the good, bad, and the ugly.
1:48:45
Just going over the game and giving you just just simple points of, you know, my opinion.
1:48:52
Starting with the good, I mean, defense came to play.
1:48:56
You know, you they came to play.
1:48:58
They forced, punts.
1:49:01
They forced field goals.
1:49:03
They put the offense in a position to score.
1:49:07
They just you know, they can't hold on forever.
1:49:10
And finally, what?
1:49:11
In the third quarter, they, gave up a touchdown.
1:49:15
So shout out to the defense.
1:49:16
Dallas Turner, you had your the best game of your career.
1:49:20
You know, keep it up.
1:49:22
We need that.
1:49:24
You know, we forced Darnold into making some not so pretty throws, and I knew that was gonna
1:49:30
happen.
1:49:30
You had asked me last week, you know, if Darnold being with us last year going up
1:49:36
against Flores' defense gave him an edge or us an edge, I said us.
1:49:41
And for the most part, I was right.
1:49:45
And our defense, back to them, you know, they're bending and not breaking.
1:49:50
We were getting sacks, which was important.
1:49:53
We were getting that that pressure on them.
1:49:55
Sam Darnold isn't mobile at all, but, just the fact that we were able to get them sacks.
1:50:00
And then We
1:50:01
talked about that on the pregame show that, like, B Flow knowing Sam Darnold and knowing
1:50:06
how to get to him, like, that felt like that was gonna be an advantage for the defense, and
1:50:11
they proved it.
1:50:11
They they Mhmm.
1:50:12
They kinda showed why you moved on from Sam Darnold because you weren't going to win a
1:50:17
championship with him.
1:50:19
I I don't believe that you can win.
1:50:20
Now you can win games.
1:50:22
You can have a good season with a great defense and a strong running game or a a great defense
1:50:28
and a, you know, a a play caller that knows how to kinda play with the lead and to expose
1:50:33
defenses that are playing from behind.
1:50:36
But, I mean, in a tight game, when he's gotta make throws, you just kinda knew that you know
1:50:44
who he is.
1:50:44
He's been that guy his whole career.
1:50:46
So, yeah, was nice to see the defense finally really show out for a game and to be a return.
1:50:53
Obviously, getting Grenard back was a massive deal to that too.
1:50:57
Yeah.
1:50:58
You know?
1:50:58
And finally getting the turnover.
1:51:00
First turnover in four games, that's huge.
1:51:04
That was definitely huge.
1:51:05
The limiting, Jackson Smith and Nijimba, you know, he didn't, you know, he didn't really do
1:51:14
much until five minutes, left in the third quarter.
1:51:18
So that was huge because he's having a phenomenal year this year.
1:51:22
That was extremely huge.
1:51:25
You know, the bad, you know, we couldn't stop the seahawks for anything.
1:51:32
You know, they were running all over us, like I mentioned, in the pregame.
1:51:36
Kenneth Walker, just running physical.
1:51:39
He was just running angry, mean.
1:51:41
He, like, you know, trucked the heck out of, Isaiah Rogers.
1:51:46
He got him pulled out for the game, and I'm surprised he went back in.
1:51:52
You know, penalties, just stupid penalties.
1:51:54
We still had some dumb penalties.
1:51:58
You know, Jackson, Ryan Kelly, being hurt that just the dismantled, offensive line that killed
1:52:06
us along with Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason.
1:52:09
The those injuries, a huge question mark, leading me to think that, you know, there's
1:52:15
something more to that.
1:52:17
Obviously, the bad, I'll put this as bad, not ugly, but the Brosmer pick.
1:52:24
A, I don't even think he should have been been in that position.
1:52:27
You take the points in the first place.
1:52:29
And KOC should have known that.
1:52:31
Shame on him.
1:52:33
For the ugly, bunch of missed tackles again.
1:52:38
Too many, you know, especially when we have them sec, third and long, and we're missing
1:52:44
tackles.
1:52:45
It's just demoralizing.
1:52:48
They were way more physical than us.
1:52:50
They wanted it more than us.
1:52:51
It almost looked like we already gave up, which is kinda, sickening to see.
1:52:58
Isaiah Rogers, you you know, have you under the ugly I've been What the hell happened to you?
1:53:04
I was watching the preseason games, coach, and I was like, oh, we got no cornerbacks.
1:53:09
Like, what are we doing out outside?
1:53:11
It it looked bad preseason.
1:53:14
And I know preseason kind of is what it is now.
1:53:16
You're you're only playing three games, but it was like, oh, we're gonna be exposed.
1:53:19
And the lack of physical play you touched on, I mean, the same thing happened pretty much to to
1:53:24
every game.
1:53:25
Atlanta did that to us.
1:53:27
The packers did that to us.
1:53:29
Brandon Jacobs.
1:53:30
I mean, nobody on this team wants to tackle.
1:53:33
Harrison Smith is throwing his 45 year old shoulder into people.
1:53:37
Fran Ginkle, I I don't know that he even knows how to tackle.
1:53:40
Like, if he's not knocking I mean, he does and he gets the splash plays.
1:53:45
Right?
1:53:45
His instincts are so good, you know, jumping those routes, you know, on the, you know,
1:53:51
couple of pick sixes last year that he had, knocking balls down like that, getting a little
1:53:56
bit of pressure, but I think he's Van Ginkle is completely underperformed this year.
1:54:01
You know?
1:54:01
And everybody's getting a year older, and I think that we're we're in big trouble big
1:54:06
trouble heading into next year if we can't get some young talent on this team.
1:54:10
Right.
1:54:11
No.
1:54:11
Yeah.
1:54:13
You know, and just a couple more points.
1:54:16
You know, just to reiterate the running only six times in the first half, that's, you know,
1:54:26
no excuse for it, and it better not happen again.
1:54:30
With with that interception, you take the points.
1:54:34
That's absolutely horrible.
1:54:35
It led to the pick six.
1:54:37
And had you taken the points, you had a great chance of going into the halftime.
1:54:42
Three three, you know, best case scenario, or you score you stop them and get another score
1:54:49
and double dip because you were getting the ball back at halftime.
1:54:52
And last but not least, just being shut out is is embarrassing beyond belief.
1:55:00
You have a kicker that can kick from Yucatan, and at the end of the game, yeah, the game's
1:55:09
out of line, but you still gotta play for pride at that point.
1:55:13
And I'll never I'll never forget I'll never forget that, and I'll never forgive that.
1:55:17
That was stupid to tell.
1:55:19
Thor Thor Nystrom a few weeks ago, I heard him call him third leg bill, and I can't get it out
1:55:24
of my head.
1:55:25
He could've kicked the field goal from the other side of the Pugen Sound out there and
1:55:29
made it.
1:55:30
From freaking Bremerton, he could've put one in, and you didn't even give him a chance.
1:55:36
You know, it's just I think he k o c just with certain situations, I think he just gets
1:55:44
flustered and then gets out of his game plan, you know, or sticks in his game plan and won't
1:55:51
get out of it.
1:55:52
You know?
1:55:52
It's it's one or the other.
1:55:55
Well and and we talked about that after you know, we alluded to it on the pregame show this
1:55:59
week because the packers game, I felt like he did the same thing.
1:56:02
After Miles Price, you know, has the boneheaded play and you give up that touchdown, you're
1:56:09
only down nine.
1:56:11
Right?
1:56:12
Like Right.
1:56:12
But it's two scores, and all of a sudden, you come out, you're backed up, and you go shotgun,
1:56:18
shotgun, shotgun with a fresh defense.
1:56:21
This defensive line has just sat in the locker room for twenty five minutes, gotten rested up,
1:56:27
and you decide that you're not gonna try to run at that just like, where is the game plan?
1:56:32
What the fuck is your game plan?
1:56:34
And I think that's what a lot of people now because JJ wasn't the problem, although he was
1:56:40
part of the problem, and Brosemer, you know, the I don't know why people set the
1:56:46
expectations so high on an undrafted kid.
1:56:49
You know, there's a reason that no other Minnesota gopher has ever started a football
1:56:54
game in the NFL.
1:56:56
Makes sense to you Minnesota fans, but, you know, sometimes trends are there for a reason.
1:57:01
Right?
1:57:03
Like, come on.
1:57:04
And I'm sure he's a great guy.
1:57:05
Right?
1:57:05
Like, that's the thing about everyone on this Minnesota.
1:57:08
Everybody's a great guy.
1:57:09
They're all great.
1:57:09
Can we get a couple assholes that are willing to shake somebody and then maybe stand up to
1:57:14
the coach?
1:57:15
And and maybe it was the line wasn't it a linebacker's coach or somebody that didn't end
1:57:18
up traveling with the team this week?
1:57:21
Did you hear anything about that?
1:57:25
I I didn't.
1:57:28
I didn't.
1:57:29
But, like, that whole, you know, he's a nice guy.
1:57:33
He's a nice guy thing.
1:57:34
I'm so sick of that shit because we're we're taking that to a whole new level in all of our
1:57:42
sports across the board.
1:57:44
I said it once.
1:57:45
I'll say it again.
1:57:46
I'm a big Jimmy Butler fan, and I know a lot of people don't like him because of his
1:57:51
Hey, man.
1:57:51
I love Jimmy
1:57:52
Butler.
1:57:52
Aggressiveness and stuff.
1:57:54
I fucking love Jimmy Butler, man.
1:57:56
He was a dog.
1:57:57
You know?
1:57:57
And and the fact that, you know, he he kinda had that dog in him and, you know, brought
1:58:05
that, that it factor, but did it in a certain way.
1:58:09
Everyone's like, I don't like Jimmy.
1:58:11
We gotta get rid of him.
1:58:12
I'd rather take Cat because he talks like this and stuff like that.
1:58:16
Like, no.
1:58:17
Fuck that.
1:58:18
Let's go.
1:58:19
Let's I'm trying to win, man.
1:58:21
Yeah.
1:58:21
Do we need to
1:58:22
start a basketball show now, coach?
1:58:25
I could do it all.
1:58:27
Whatever you wanna do, we'll do it.
1:58:29
I'm all about it.
1:58:30
I know you said you got some connections to the Grand Casino who are now the namesake of that
1:58:36
beautiful arena in Saint Paul.
1:58:39
I love hockey, man, and I don't just like me, man, I'm a sports fan.
1:58:43
I'm just here.
1:58:44
I'm gonna be talking about it anyway.
1:58:46
And I spent a lot of time, you know, talking ball with my brothers, and and we're just fans
1:58:50
and bullshitting around.
1:58:51
But, man, if other people are going to enjoy this and take advantage of the chance to to dip
1:58:58
in with us and to leave their comments, like, I would love to turn this platform into, you
1:59:03
know, an all all sports platform.
1:59:06
And, obviously, we're gonna be talking a lot of ball with you, as your season picks up with the
1:59:11
Wyoming cavalry.
1:59:13
And, let let's end the show on some good there.
1:59:16
Let let's talk about your team and what you're gonna have coming up and maybe some
1:59:21
preparations that you're making in the last five minutes I got you here.
1:59:25
Yeah.
1:59:27
You know, we got our first tryouts coming up here December 28.
1:59:31
It's a Sunday, 10AM to 1PM, Toka Soccer Center in Burnsville.
1:59:36
I'm extremely excited.
1:59:37
I got a bunch of players coming from in state, a few out of state, some from other countries.
1:59:44
So, you know, I'm I'm blessed, to just be able to have the opportunity to speak to players
1:59:53
from all around the world, and, you know, you know, extremely grateful to have them wanna
2:00:02
come play, for the Wyoming Cavalry and for me.
2:00:07
You know, I mean, we got our season coming up here in a couple months, preseason game against
2:00:14
a semi pro team.
2:00:17
I can't name them right now.
2:00:19
It's gonna be an announcement, but look for that in the next week or two.
2:00:24
And then we're getting ready for camp.
2:00:26
I'll be going to Wyoming, for a week and just, you know, bunch of football, a lot of
2:00:33
evaluating.
2:00:34
I'm already looking at film from, the teams that we'll be playing, from last year just
2:00:40
trying to, you know, just get familiar.
2:00:44
It's a new new league, new teams, so I like to see what I'm working with.
2:00:49
I always gotta stay prepared.
2:00:51
Yeah.
2:00:52
And you do.
2:00:52
And I'm gonna put even more on your plate this year as we move in.
2:00:57
I wanna give a few last shout outs.
2:00:59
Obviously, we have Marcus Way on today.
2:01:01
This is his wife, Shelly, there on the left side of the screen, the dark haired one.
2:01:08
Lady Persia is her name in the Vikings world order.
2:01:12
That is her friend, Kristen.
2:01:15
Amazing people.
2:01:16
They got a secret Santa going on.
2:01:18
I'm gonna throw their link in the chat so you guys will be able to dip into that.
2:01:22
Vikings fans, if you wanna take part in the secret Santa, they had a lot of success doing
2:01:26
it last year, it and turned out to be a really cool thing.
2:01:28
And then we also have their women of the North calendar.
2:01:32
I know Marcus was on showing us the men of the North and everything they got going on.
2:01:37
Both calendars, they're selling, and you can get ahold of Shelly through the Facebook page
2:01:42
that I linked in here too.
2:01:44
And, yeah, buy some of these calendars.
2:01:46
All the money goes to charity.
2:01:47
There's some great people doing some awesome things.
2:01:50
We saw Marcus's paintings on here today.
2:01:52
He earns the Sir Picasso title in every single way.
2:01:57
Just, incredible individuals.
2:02:00
Obviously, part of the Viking world order.
2:02:02
If you've seen the game and you've seen them dressed up, Marcus is Darth Viking, always
2:02:07
taking pictures with the fans.
2:02:09
And it really to me, it's what drew me to this fan base that they were taking it upon
2:02:15
themselves and spending this money to become part of the show for other fans.
2:02:21
Right?
2:02:21
And they don't have to do that.
2:02:23
They don't have to show up and to do all these things, but they do to make it even better for
2:02:29
all of us that are going to enjoy these games.
2:02:31
So a big shout out to them.
2:02:33
A big shout out to everybody who has tuned in with us tonight on our inaugural run here with
2:02:39
Vikings uncensored.
2:02:41
We had a great time.
2:02:43
Coach, I can't wait to see you on Sunday, two hours before kickoff.
2:02:47
We're gonna talk some Vikings football.
2:02:50
We're probably gonna talk, a lot more about the future of this organization being the Scene
2:02:56
Project Sports Network and what we plan to bring, but we'll have coaches keys to the game
2:03:02
and a player to watch for you guys and a little bit of a tailgate vibe pregame to hang out with
2:03:09
us.
2:03:09
So make sure you're subscribing to the channel on YouTube and find us on all your social
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Give us a follow.
2:03:16
Coach, any parting shots before we get out of here?
2:03:19
Hey.
2:03:22
Game noon game back to normal time.
2:03:25
Right?
2:03:25
I think so.
2:03:26
Yeah.
2:03:27
Okay.
2:03:27
Thank you.
2:03:28
Well, I mean, hopefully, we can get against Washington, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
2:03:34
Honestly, they can lose out.
2:03:37
I don't think it's gonna break anyone's heart at this point.
2:03:39
Look competitive.
2:03:40
Right?
2:03:41
I think that's all we're asking.
2:03:42
Can we see the run game working?
2:03:44
Can we see KOC make adjustments?
2:03:47
Can we see JJ returning to action, it sounds like, this week be better than he has?
2:03:53
Can he put up a, you know, 60 QB rating?
2:03:57
That would be awesome.
2:03:58
Can you do better than you would if you just spiked the ball every time?
2:04:02
Right.
2:04:02
Well, I I wouldn't mind just benching him again.
2:04:05
Even if he's healthy, just benching him.
2:04:07
I mean, Bryce Young did that.
2:04:09
They benched Bryce Young, last year.
2:04:12
He came back and looked like a completely different quarterback, and now they're probably
2:04:15
gonna make the playoffs this year.
2:04:17
I mean, I I saw that hit.
2:04:19
I saw it in real time in that Green Bay game, and I was like, oh, he's not getting up.
2:04:22
Like, they got his bell rung on that play.
2:04:25
I was a little surprised he came back, but, this felt like a soft benching.
2:04:30
Did it not to you?
2:04:31
I mean, it felt like a, yeah, he's going through the protocol.
2:04:35
You know, KOC slipping a freaking, a Benjamin to the dock.
2:04:40
Right?
2:04:40
And Right.
2:04:41
Right.
2:04:42
He's not gonna be good to go this week.
2:04:44
Right?
2:04:45
And then and then, you know, comes out today, I think, or yes to today, I think it was
2:04:51
announced that he cleared the protocol.
2:04:53
And, I mean, I don't think you can trot Max Brosmer back out there again.
2:04:57
I think everyone saw enough this week.
2:05:01
And and I think it opened their eyes to maybe this isn't all on JJ.
2:05:06
And if even if that the only person that maybe you did it for was the coach to say, I'm
2:05:11
fucking this up, and I need to take some accountability to this, then, maybe that's a
2:05:16
step in the right direction because, honestly, he's gonna have to do something to save his job
2:05:21
next year, you know, and a lot of things we alluded to on the show today.
2:05:26
There's there's some changes coming to this team, and I think the fan base and and the
2:05:32
people inside of the building need to prepare themselves for it.
2:05:35
Oh, yeah.
2:05:36
And it's gonna be drastic.
2:05:38
It's gonna there's gonna be a lot of changes happening.
2:05:41
It's gonna seem like overnight.
2:05:45
Yeah.
2:05:45
Well, it seems like overnight that the vibes left the, left Eagan and US Bank Stadium.
2:05:51
Right?
2:05:51
Like, from Super Bowl talk preseason to where we are now thirteen short weeks later is is
2:05:59
pretty abysmal.
2:06:00
But, you know what?
2:06:01
The Scene Project, Sports Network is gonna be here to pull you through it.
2:06:05
If anything, to bring a little levity and to bring some, to bring some honesty to the
2:06:11
conversation and to be here for you to cry with.
2:06:14
And, hopefully, next year, we're celebrating a much different season.
2:06:19
Coach Cody, thank you so much for your time today, everyone tuning in.
2:06:23
A big shout out to sir Picasso, Marcus Way painting away on all your social media.
2:06:28
Big b from the coast to coast sports network joined us tonight too.
2:06:32
Shout out to everybody for making this a huge success tonight, and we'll see you all on
2:06:36
Sunday for the Vikings pregame show.
2:06:39
Coach, have a great night.
2:06:43
Yes, sir.
2:06:44
Let's get it.
2:06:45
See you.
2:09:45
SPSN.