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Emergency ITB: Going Inside Eagles Trade For WR Dontayvion Wicks · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to Inside the Birds. It's Adam Kaplan
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  Speaker 1: and we got some breaking news and we're gonna, We're gonna,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take this from every side, from the packer's side.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked to some coaches around the league, some personnel
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  Speaker 1: people have studied Dantavian Wicks's tape, So we've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot for you. We'll explain the Packers side as we
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  Speaker 1: understand it, as we're told, and the Ego side, of course.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get started. So Friday afternoon, the Eagles agreed
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  Speaker 1: to a trade to get don Tavian Wicks from the
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  Speaker 1: Packers for true draft picks. It's a lot to give up.
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  Speaker 1: By the way they got. The Eagles are giving up
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  Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six fifth round pick. Now what I
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  Speaker 1: don't know is is it the first one of two
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  Speaker 1: they have. The Eagles have the one from the Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: which is a Draft D trade, which is one fifty
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  Speaker 1: three overall, and they have the compic which is one
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  Speaker 1: seventy eight overall. But anyway, it's gonna be a fifth
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  Speaker 1: round pick this year and a twenty twenty seven to
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  Speaker 1: six round pick for Wis and Wis. According to ESPN
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  Speaker 1: has agreed to a twelve point five million dollar extension
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  Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Now, obviously, if you're going to pay
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  Speaker 1: a guy twelve point five million dollars for a season, now,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know the structure. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know how much is guaranteed. We know the total number
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty seven, which will be the finity of
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  Speaker 1: his deal, is going to be. It's a lot twelve
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  Speaker 1: point five million. Even if it's only five million guaranteed,
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  Speaker 1: a four million guaranteed, the total number is twelve point
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  Speaker 1: five million, which means he's going to have a meaningful role.
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  Speaker 1: This does not spell to me. Backup, Okay, his salary
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  Speaker 1: for this season, folks, he had what's called a best
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  Speaker 1: base escalator mandated by the CBA based on playing time
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  Speaker 1: he hit it. It's actually very easy to achieve. He'll
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  Speaker 1: make three point six to seven four million dollars this season,
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  Speaker 1: not guaranteed. There's going to be some guaranteed money in here,
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  Speaker 1: there's no question about. We just don't know how much.
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  Speaker 1: What's ironic is the next show we're going to tape
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  Speaker 1: is going to be on Eagles free agent contracts. We've
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  Speaker 1: got all of them except for I think two. But
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  Speaker 1: we have some details that are not out there which
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to give, but this supersedes it. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about Wicks here. Wicks is a fascinating player. I
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  Speaker 1: know some people have had high hopes. He's a talented player.
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  Speaker 1: I think what heard him folks he went to University
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  Speaker 1: of Virginia is he had an awful combine run forty time.
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  Speaker 1: If the official time was four six two in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, that is a tight end time. That's not
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  Speaker 1: good enough. That's going to knock you down. The word
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  Speaker 1: I heard was pre combine, although a part of his workout.
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  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, his vert was thirty nine, which is not bad.
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  Speaker 1: His broad jump was ten ten, not bad, but a
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  Speaker 1: four to six two is going to knock you down.
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  Speaker 1: Good size just onder six foot two six one three
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  Speaker 1: a's arm length good for receivers thirty two and three.
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  Speaker 1: A's Greg co Sellar, friend from the NFL films who
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  Speaker 1: you know worked for us here inside the Birds. It
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  Speaker 1: has for many years. He's always like Wicks. But my
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  Speaker 1: understanding from Wicks over the years with the packerses, they
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  Speaker 1: thought he'd do better than he had Now saying that
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  Speaker 1: why were they happy to move him? They got again
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  Speaker 1: good value for a guy was going to be clearly about.
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  Speaker 1: He had no chance to start for them. He was
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  Speaker 1: mostly a backup for them spots starter started in three
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  Speaker 1: receiver sets, whin eleven personnel, but he was never a
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  Speaker 1: seventy five percent playe talk about which would tell he's
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  Speaker 1: a true start. He's not. He was never even over
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  Speaker 1: sixty percent for a season. It's had some minor injuries,
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  Speaker 1: but injuries are not the problem here. He just was
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  Speaker 1: not quite as good. He would look good for a
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  Speaker 1: spell then drop off a Christian Park at Christian Park,
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  Speaker 1: Christian Watson got hurt with the ACL. He can never
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  Speaker 1: quite replace him. They drafted Matthew Golden, Jayden Reid had
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  Speaker 1: his injury last year. Who's there three, So it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Watson. It's gonna be Golden and Red when they
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  Speaker 1: go to eleven personnel. They also have saveon Williams. And
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  Speaker 1: this is another thing, This is another reason why they
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  Speaker 1: traded him. Savion Williams was a third round pick last
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  Speaker 1: year and he's got to play. I mean they look
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  Speaker 1: when you draft a player in the top three rounds,
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  Speaker 1: that's the bottom end of a starter round Wayams, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, has got great size. He's just under six
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  Speaker 1: foot four to twenty plus. So Wis obviously was not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be resigned, and they got something for him quite friendly,
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  Speaker 1: which is really good value. So that's the Packers standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the Eagles here, which is why a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are watching this. One's fascinating because I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people are gonna are gonna jump
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  Speaker 1: to conclusions which are actually very fair, and I'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that. So on Wix here, and he was obviously
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  Speaker 1: with Sean Manning, who's the new Eagles offensive coordinator. He'll
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  Speaker 1: know the terminology they're switching to the the the verbage
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  Speaker 1: system pure West Coast, so Wicks will know that system.
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  Speaker 1: That's really important. But the big thing here is they've got,
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  Speaker 1: as it stands now before they decide what they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do with aj Brown and people. If people want to
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  Speaker 1: speculate he's going to be traded, I wouldn't disagree, but
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  Speaker 1: let you know, I'm gonna explain some stuff to you,
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  Speaker 1: and stuff we reported three years ago after remind people
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  Speaker 1: because they're forgetting that the patriots of boys like them.
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  Speaker 1: It has little. It has something to do with Mike Rabel,
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  Speaker 1: but it's Elliot Wolf two. We'll get into that. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, as it stands AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, AJ
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  Speaker 1: Brown is twenty nine million dollars total total cash that's due,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, all guaranteed Hollywood Brown. Okay, who's going
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  Speaker 1: to play. He's going to be their speed receiver, pure
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  Speaker 1: speed receiver. Hollywood Brown. By the way, not only he's
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  Speaker 1: going to make five million. Let me see what my
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  Speaker 1: file here says. I think it's fully guaranteed, but I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you in one second. Yeah, Hollywood Brown's money is
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  Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, all of it. So he's got to play. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So right now you've got Brown Smith cocause Brown's currently
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  Speaker 1: on the team. Brown and Smith are starters. Right when
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  Speaker 1: they go to eleven personnel, the first guy in has
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  Speaker 1: got to be Wicks. If they're moving AJ Brown my senses,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean they can't draft somebody. If they
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  Speaker 1: move to a J. Brown and you have a Lojen
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  Speaker 1: Moore who's really a slot receiver or Z which is
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  Speaker 1: a moon position Moore's and more right now is gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to earn his way under the roster. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: played good fulm in a while. But it's Smith. If
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  Speaker 1: they move Brown and Wis to me with you know,
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  Speaker 1: the twelve and a half million means something to me.
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  Speaker 1: I wish we knew the contract breakdown, but it would
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  Speaker 1: be Smith and Wix because Wix protects DeVante from a
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  Speaker 1: size standpoint, that makes sense. You got Darius Cooper who's
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  Speaker 1: could play Z but he could also play inside. You
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  Speaker 1: got Danny Gray who's on the outside looking who could run,
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  Speaker 1: but he's had major injury problems. Kus Watkins is still there,
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  Speaker 1: but as it stands now, it's Brown. Your top four
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  Speaker 1: receivers for the Eagles are very simple, Brown and Smith
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown or more keys if we call him by
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  Speaker 1: his real first name and it's really a J. Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, Wix and DeVante Smith. Those are your four.
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  Speaker 1: That's a hell of a man. Can you imagine that
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  Speaker 1: if they if they didn't trade Brown, it's AJ. So
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. I was talking to a coach from another
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  Speaker 1: team about right after the trade broke and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't study Wis, but I said, what is your opinion?
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  Speaker 1: And the first thing he said is did they sign
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  Speaker 1: Holliday Brown for some money, and I said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's said. I got to look it up. I
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  Speaker 1: have it at my computer and it is five million,
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  Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. And the guy goes, look and he goes,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't sign Holly Brown not to play. He goes.
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  Speaker 1: My first thought would be, they're probably gonna move aj Brown.
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  Speaker 1: How he's probably not doing this, and uh, this coach
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  Speaker 1: it was on Twitter and he saw it. He goes.
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  Speaker 1: He goes. He goes, I don't know much about contracts,
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  Speaker 1: but towe a half million seems a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: for a backup. I said, I hear you, buddy, he goes.
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  Speaker 1: If it were me, I would think I would think
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  Speaker 1: that Wicks will be starting. I'm like, well, they would
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  Speaker 1: have to move Brown first, but yes, that would make sense.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously again the Seawan Mannion connection. So so right now,
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  Speaker 1: if they move Brown, it's DeVante, Smith and Wix. That
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  Speaker 1: would be my sense, folks, since they gave up two
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  Speaker 1: draft picks. By the way, they got two draft picks
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  Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown would be three. Particularly when they go
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  Speaker 1: to LEFN personnel wisul DeVante could play inside the cool
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  Speaker 1: thing about this, Wix could play the exposition. Okay, could
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  Speaker 1: he could play A J. Brown's position? Smith is a
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  Speaker 1: Z who could also play inside Hollywood Brown. Could he
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  Speaker 1: could be moved around? You could play him in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of positions. And this guy, this coach I talked to, said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big Hollywood Brown fan. He knows he's not
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  Speaker 1: been as good as he should be. He said that
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  Speaker 1: he is. He had to study this. This coach said
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  Speaker 1: he he studied Hollywood Brown for free agency. He said
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  Speaker 1: he could still run. He said, the problem with Holly
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  Speaker 1: what Brown is he's just not big enough physically, which
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  Speaker 1: is something if you've study him before, you probably knew that.
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  Speaker 1: But he said he has not lost any speed up.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was glad to hear that. That's good to
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  Speaker 1: know because this guy would know he's watching coaching tape,
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  Speaker 1: so they would have a crowded room. I A J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown's It is not traded. But what I was referring
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  Speaker 1: to earlier is the Patriots called the Eagles three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Way we put this on our show. We know others
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  Speaker 1: know about this, other reporters know about it, but we
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  Speaker 1: got it pretty strongly. It was l eight Wolf calling
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  Speaker 1: or checking into it. And he was not available. Of
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  Speaker 1: course AJ would get his next extension. So that's where
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  Speaker 1: it's at. Very crowded receiver room for the Eagles here.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, by the way, is coming back. He's just
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  Speaker 1: a blocking receiver. It would be fascinating by I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: call it a minor miracle, but if they didn't trade Brown, AJ,
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  Speaker 1: that is, they would have a hell of a receiver room,
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  Speaker 1: maybe won the best of the National Football League. To crowded.
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  Speaker 1: You can't pay everybody, folks. AJ Brown twenty nine million
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  Speaker 1: this season. How they were Brown five million. DeVante Smith
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Since since we're at it, let's see
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  Speaker 1: what DeVante's owed the season in total cash fourteen million.
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  Speaker 1: It's too much money. We told folks at the started
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  Speaker 1: free agency their cash ben would be up. We were right.
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  Speaker 1: Last year we told you would be down. We were right.
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  Speaker 1: We're not expecting to spend this kind of money. This
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit more than we expected. Damian Pierce
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  Speaker 1: got some guaranteed money that's going to be in our
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  Speaker 1: next contract. In fact, that his contract's interesting. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that the next time. But that's it. We pretty
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  Speaker 1: much covered it. Sean Mannion is reunited with a guy
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  Speaker 1: that he knows. Sean's going to call the plays this year.
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  Speaker 1: He wants someone who knows the offense. He's got Ryan Mahaffey,
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  Speaker 1: who's the Tenants coach and the run game coordinator. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating, folks. This is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a true West Coast Auce defense, not quite like
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  Speaker 1: Gayer Reid's by the way, it's going to be different.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be different. How different we're going to
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  Speaker 1: see an OTAs. So that's that's just a quick review
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  Speaker 1: of More of this on our Monday show with Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Mosher and I. Well, we'll have more information from from
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  Speaker 1: more scouting people. But one more thing on Wicks. I've
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  Speaker 1: talked to three people today about Wicks. They all like him.
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  Speaker 1: The one, the one receivers coach did didn't study him because, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he said he hasn't studied him as a professional. He
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  Speaker 1: studied him for that draft. He said he's a big
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  Speaker 1: bodied receiver, possession receiver, run after the catch guy, go
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  Speaker 1: bingo West Coast offense, but he had not seen him
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  Speaker 1: as a professional because he's not a receiver. He's not
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  Speaker 1: a free agent, so he wasn't looking at him now,
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  Speaker 1: But everyone I've talked to likes him. Nobody really loves him.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Greg co Cell liked him for that draft because
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  Speaker 1: I remember we were doing shows with Greg then and
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  Speaker 1: twenty three. He liked him, but he just never played
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  Speaker 1: consistent of football.
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  Speaker 1: Up to secure a starting role. But I'm very fascinating
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  Speaker 1: to see what happens if AJ Brown is traded. We
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  Speaker 1: don't two percentage. As you know in the show, we've
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  Speaker 1: never done them. You never will. But every if you
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  Speaker 1: read the tea leaves and are reporting it inside the
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  Speaker 1: Birds has been very simple. If he's going to the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: if degals get they want what they want from the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: he's gone. But they have not. The Rams, their GM
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  Speaker 1: went on the record at at the combine or owners
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  Speaker 1: it would have been. It would have been the owners meetings,
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  Speaker 1: and it was very upfront about it, so about yes,
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  Speaker 1: they talked to the Eagles about AJ Brown, but they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't complete the deal. So with the Rams get reinvolved,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. They seem to have moved on,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But this is a fascinating
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  Speaker 1: trait is wix can play, and I'm so interested to
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  Speaker 1: see the breakdown of the real money the twelve point
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  Speaker 1: five million for twenty twenty seven because he signed one
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  Speaker 1: year extension. I'm very fascinating to see what that really
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  Speaker 1: looks like. So until then, folks, that's all I got.
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