Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / League of Offensive Dominance? | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 18

Transcript

League of Offensive Dominance? | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May eighteenth.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: This is checkwise happy hours.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: And now convincingly securing third place in the twenty twenty
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: three Jacksonville mayoral election. JAP chatter, I don't think so.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy hour. It is Thursday. I
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: am JP Shadrick. We've got a busy hour ahead. We're
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars social media.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: The off season program continues Phase two, the final week
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: of that coming up this week. OTAs Organized team activities
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: begin next week. We'll get some schedule reaction. Jeff Logman
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: back with us. We'll go around the National Football League
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: as well. Log's good afternoon, good to see you back. Welcome,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: good to be seen. How are you doing? Good? Good?
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Good programs rolling off Phase two mid May almost Phase
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: three and Phase two three next week. Yeah, Yeah, it's exciting.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: I actually caught a little bit of a practice the
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: other day and a little bit of practice today. You
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: must have sources, they can get you around. Yeah, you know,
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: it's good. And it's interesting how the progression is in
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: the season with these different phases, and to give people
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: an idea of maybe what they are. Phase one is
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: when they come in and they're working out and they
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: can meet with coaches. Phase two they can actually have
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: some on the field stuff, but there's no offense versus
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: defense drills, you know, they're actually the offense is on
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: and then they leave and then the defense comes out.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: Special teams is the buffer between. And then Phase three
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: is when they put the helmets on and they can
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: have competitive drills, so it's cool. And then Mini camp
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: kind of is on the very end of that. Phase
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: three really just Phase three, but you have to be
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: there for three days, right exactly. Yeah, it's a great
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: way you describe it perfectly. It's it's mini camp essentially,
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: and you have to be there. Whereas you know, for example,
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: like Evan Ingram, you know, he doesn't have a contract yet,
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: so I don't know what the deal is with that
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: as far as what he have to come or would
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: he not franchise. He hasn't signed the franchise tag yet,
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: so I guess he wouldn't have to come. But but yeah,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: it's good, and I wish that this had been around
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: a long period of time in the National Football League,
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: you know, back like when I played. We've heard stories before, well,
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: I mean just because I think it's smart. You know,
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a gentle I don't want to say gentle.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: I mean you're you're working towards a goal. And I
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: think that that's it's really smart. You know where you're
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: you're working your way with a with a progression and
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: a mindset that says, let's increase the amount that we're
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: doing on the field to where then you kind of
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: hit the crescendo, which is the mini camp, and then
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: you have time off to where players can then fine
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: tune their bodies prior to camp, and then you hit
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: training camp and then there's another acclamation period again, which
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: is smart. I mean compared to the old days where
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: it was like, hey, let's put the pads on and
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: crack heads day one made no sense at all, But
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: it's just smarter. Now you got to get to the
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: starting line to begin with, and then in turn that
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: gives you a chance to get to the finish line
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: of the season. Well, it's I think it's changed the
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: mindset of a lot of the coaches around the National
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Football League in a lot of ways. And that because
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: you see a lot of these successful coaches that have
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: been winning and that they're not concerned about day one.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: They are, but they know that it's a long race
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: and that you're trying to build your football team to
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: be better when you hit the playoffs. Whereas the old
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: mindset was we got to win them all. We need
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: to be at our best very first day, and if
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: we're not, we're going to be behind. And so it's
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: changed the mindset quite a bit, and I think it's
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: for the better. Well, the schedule was released a week
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: ago to hey, and outside expectations for the team continue
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: to rise after the release of that schedule. Of course,
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: well head coach Dug Peterson was asked to start a
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: rookie man rookie mini camp this past weekend. How he
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: manages those high expectations.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: The expectation is to win, you know, and and that
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: was our expectation last year. And even though parts of
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: the year weren't as good as other parts of the year,
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: you know, that's still that still has to be, you
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: know priority.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: You gotta win football games in.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: This league and and so but but listen, it's as
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: you guys know, you've heard it from me a million times.
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a one game, it's one day
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: it's one player at a time. You know, it's about
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: the team, and we keep the team and in front
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: and and focused and and you know it's the main thing.
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: And you got to keep the main thing the main thing.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: And and but yet expectations are, you know, to win games.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: The expectations are all win. But here's the path to
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: do it, player by player, day by day, building that moment.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like you were talking about and making sure that
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: you're covering all of the things that need to be
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: covered along the way, so that when you're hitting your
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: stride in the season, there's a very little time to
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: kind of to go over the minutia. You know, once
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: you get in the regular season, you don't have time
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: to slow down. Well, now's the time to slow down
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: and to make sure that everything is taught. It's ingrained
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: into the mind of the players, and the system has
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: kind of an entirety to it to where you know,
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: the team feels comfortable with any aspect of it. What
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: did you think of the schedules? I like it. I mean,
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: first of all, JP, the London thing, I know you're
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: excited about. Yeah, I think it's going to be cool
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: to be able to be there for ten days. I'm
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: glad that it's a home and away game to where
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: it doesn't kind of penalize any of the home fans here.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: And it's a great opponent over there in the Buffalo Bills,
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. I like the idea that
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: the home openers against the Super Bowl champions Kansas City Chiefs.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, how could you ask for more there? Will
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: the Colts end up being will they play a rookie quarterback?
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but I like
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: the way the schedule lays out. And first of all,
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: from a travel standpoint, besides ten ten days in London,
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: there's no West Coast trips, no the furthest west they
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: go is Houston, which is fantastically It's great. The schedule
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: looks favorable from hey, look you got you got a
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: lot of early home games, but then late in the
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: season you got enough to kind of keep you happy.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: So I like it. I don't think there's anything negative
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: about the schedule whatsoever. Primetime games are cool. First time
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: on Monday night football since twenty eleven, first time on
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: Sunday night football since two thousand and eight, than a while. Yeah,
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: and that's good. I mean, and we were talking before
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: the schedule came out last week and I was like, look,
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, But I mean it does to some extent,
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: just because you want the exposure for your team and
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: for the organization. And I'm glad that the networks in
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: the league recognize that this team is a draw with
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: a young quarterback and a young sending team to where
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: they got there are getting this national exposure. They deserve it.
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a good football team that provided
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: one of the most exciting playoff highlights in league history.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: We've got a young, exciting quarterback, They've got skilled players
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: around him, defensive guys that can go make plays, and
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: they just now have to go do it on that
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: big stage. That's the next step. Well, the defense. I
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: think the defense is going to need some work. And
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: when I say need some work, they need to improve.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think the offense, at least it feels
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable when you look at the offense
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: and you evaluate where the offense is at. Defensively, you
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: feel like there's some work to do and there's got
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: to be a lot of improvement from within. And so
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: can they do that. That's a big question. Mark. But
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: there's enough on both sides of the ball and on
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: special teams. The agnew that there's enough to watch nationally.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: People will in for this too. Oh yeah, And I'm
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: excited about some of these young players that they brought in.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Harrison, I think is an outstanding young talent
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: that's going to have I think once he gets even
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit stronger, he's going to be really good.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: The tight end Strange, I mean, I love him just
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: because I think he's going to be an immediate impact
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: guy just like Harrison, and I like some of the
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: later round picks their ability to compete and to contribute
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: on special teams. You know, with the very last pick
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: of the draft that they got the linebacker slash fullback
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: from Houston. I can tell you watching the film on him, JP,
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: I I wouldn't play him at fullback. I'd play him
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: at linebacker. Last time. I know, I'm sticking with it.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it. But he's he's he was lining
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: up at rookie Minnie camp at least with tight ends
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: and doing all that stuff. Yeah, I know, I know,
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: and watching him a little bit this week, and I
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: play at linebacker. Okay, all right. I mean, I'm not
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: saying anything bad about what I saw. I'm just saying
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: is that I still like the guy. He's a wrecking position,
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: that's real. He's yeah the weight room, yeah, he's put together. Yeah.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: I probably couldn't be one of his workout partners, I
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: can tell you that. But you know, look the the
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: Phase two stuff. You know, Doug Peterson runs just such
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: a really smooth, organized praet practice and it's just impressive
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: to watch. This is the first week where obviously the
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: rookies are in the building with the veterans at the
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: same time. Right, rookies were here for their own mini camp,
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: and there were nearly forty players for the rookie mini camp,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: including some tryout vets, some tryout rookies as well. And
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: after the fact, and we'll go over this a little later,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: they've signed a couple of those guys and released a
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: couple of the undrafted players that they had signed right
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: after the draft. But now the rookies are still around
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: and there with veterans on the field in Fase two,
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: and it's their first opportunity to interact with the veterans
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: on this team, with the coaches on the field, and
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: all together as a team for the first time, and
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: as you said, next week, they'll crank it up just
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit more at least and put the helmets
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: on and phase three. It gets a little more competitive there,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: you know, because then you start having offense versus defense,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: which is prohibited in phase two. But it's been good
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: and when you watch them out there this week, you
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: can kind of tell the guys that are rookies and
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: the guys that are veterans. You know, the rookies are,
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: you know, making sure they're given one hundred percent on
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: every play, and the veteran guys it's just a little
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: bit more relaxed for them because they know what they're doing,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: whereas the rookies are just you know, trying to soak
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: up everything that they can, and they're attentive and full
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: of energy. First impression of Anton Harrison when you walked
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: on the field the other day. Good size, but he's
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: not as big physically as a Cam Robinson. I mean,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Camer Robinson is kind of like a freak. He's tall
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: and long arms, but he's he looks, you know, like
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: some guys look inflated and like they shouldn't be walking
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: around at three hundred and twenty pounds. Okay, And when
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: I saw Anton Harrison, I said, he can put on
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: another fifteen pounds and really not have him look I mean,
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: he would still look great. Yeah, I mean, so he's
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: got an opportunity, I think, to get even bigger. But
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: his athleticism that I think is really what stands out.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: He's got great feet and his hands were very impressive
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: when I watched the film on him, and you can
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: tell watching that the guy works hard and that's impressive
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: and that's what you need, you know, when when your
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: better players and your high draft picks have a certain
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: established work ethic that kind of raises the level of
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: the work ethic of everybody around him, and that's what
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: you want. Sounds like he's going to get every opportunity
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: to be out there. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: where they play. The other guy that had a short
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: conversation with today is Josh wells Ah, he looks he
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: looks great. He looks great, and he's so excited to
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: be able to come back. And you know he's had
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: a house here since he was here as a player before.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: You know, these neighbors kind of with Tyler Shatley, and
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: they've both got you know, their families, got kids. And
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: you know, he said it was kind of neat. You know,
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: he says, when I got here, you know, kind of
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: young and immature, and then kind of went away and
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: grew up, and now I'm back. And so I'm excited
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: for this football team to have him because I think
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: he's a really good swing tackle option. And he looks
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: so much bigger than what he did. I was like, dude,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I said, how much you weighing now? And he goes, Man,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: he goes, I think I put on about twenty twenty
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: five pounds since I was here. Wow, and I'm talking
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: solid twenty five pounds now. I mean this guy not
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: eating cheetos twenty no, no, no, no, not not different,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: not the Jeff and JP twenty five pounds. I can
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: put it on. Yeah, yeah, we can put on twenty
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: five pounds, but we could I don't think we could
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: do it like that, No, we certainly. But it's good
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: to see him. I mean, he's a good guy. I mean,
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: he's one of the one of those guys that you
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: know when they keep talking about that culture fit, I mean,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that fits the culture and
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: that that's exciting to have. And the reality is is
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: that you can never have too many good tackles in
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: this league. You just can't. He said their neighbor as
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: wells and Shatley. You think there's a fishing boat on
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: that street anywhere? Probably probably a couple, probably, I would guess, Yeah,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: for sure. I had a lot of playdates with the kids. Absolutely,
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: his kids running everywhere all over there. The Jags are
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: excited to take the field this fall and we want
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: you here for all the action. For as low as
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: fifty seven bucks per game, you can join the ranks
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: of the most dedicated fans and become a Jag season
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: ticket member. Find your perfect seats at Jaguars dot com,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: slash tickets or called nine oh four six three three
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: two thousand. Rookie tight End Brenton Strange explains what two
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: tight end sets could bring to this offense, and that's
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: next time. Jaguars happy.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Spread formations. But you have big personnel. How does the
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: defense match up to that? Do you play your nickel
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: package or do you now play more of a base
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: package And can you create a mismatch by having a
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: lumbering linebacker on the field with Evan Ingram, who's really
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: a jumbo wide receiver. When you put multiple tight ends
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: on the field and you put them attached to the attacker,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: you now create an extra gap for the defense to
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: defend and depend upon. Maybe you put both tight ends
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: beside each other on one side or opposite side. It
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: now forces the defense out of its comfort zone because
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: it may be an unbalanced formation in terms of the symmetry,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: isn't ideally the same.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: That's Bucky Brooks from the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday, available
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: in the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. Bucky Brooks of NFL Network,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: of course, and Jaguars Radio sideline analysts. Welcome back. It's
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hour j P. Shadwick with Jeff Logoman,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado, David Cho and Glad you're with us today
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: as well on Jaguars dot com, Jaguars Social Media ten
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: ten xl AM and we're everywhere. We are everywhere a long.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: If you can't find us, look somewhere else. We're somewhere.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: We're everywhere every everywhere, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, that's your perfect
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: we on the website. Yes, it's a free one too.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com beautiful, no charge. Good. So two tight insects.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: And that's the conversation we'll hear from Brenton Strange coming
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: up the Jaguars rookie tight end. But you talked about
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: him just a moment ago, briefly, just your first impression. Okay,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: he does have some size to him. He can move
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit. You saw him on tape at Penn
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: State move all over the formation, and him combined with
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: an evid ingram, gives play callers and play designers all
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: kind of opportunity to cross up a defense. I think
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Strange has got a nique ability to where he can
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: play multiple tight end roles, whether it be an F
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: which is a full back, H which is a move
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: tight end off the line of scrimmage, or even a
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Y which is attached to the line of scrimmage outside
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: of tackle. I think he can play any of those roles.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: What impresses me the most about him is his willingness
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and how good he is at blocking. And when I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: say that, there's a lot of tight ends that we've
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: had here in Jacksonville that have been good at blocking,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: like Mercedes Lewis. Okay, the one we just had, we
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: went to Denver, Chris and Kyle Brady going back into
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: some of the older days. But what makes him a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: little bit unique is that this young man from Penn
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: State can block really well in space. What I mean
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: by that is that Kenny block a defensive end on
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Yeah, he can do that. But
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: is he going to be as good as Chris man
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Hurts or maybe as good as Marcedes Loose Maybe not.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But when he has to go down or up the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: field to block a linebacker or a safety or a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: defensive back in space, he is so good at that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's phenomen I mean, it's when you watch him, you go,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: how can anybody be that effective when you're trying to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: block somebody in a large area who's faster than you. Yes,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but he does it so incredibly well. And what I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: love about him is that he wants to bury their
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: face in the dirt at the end of the play.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And he has capable receiving abilities, more than capable receiving abilities.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And so I mean, you talk about a fun new
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: toy for Doug Peterson to take for a drive in
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: this offense. I mean I was watching the film thinking
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of the possibilities going Doug's gonna have a field day.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Let's hear from Brenton Strange, and they used multiple tight
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: end sets up in Happy Valley a good bit, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: he certainly understands what that can bring.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you have athletic tight ends such as like me,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: Evan Luke and the rest of the guys in the room,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: you can create a lot of stress on the defense.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: It creates mismatches all over across the field. And that's
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: not only in the past game, but also being able
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to go out there and run an eleven play and
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: use this and use it as twelve personnel, but then
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: the next play maybe do hurry up or something and
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: go out there and just and.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Run the ball.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: So that's that's the luxury of having great tight ends
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: in your room. And like I was saying to him earlier,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I just I can't wait to get in here with
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: the older guys on Monday and learn from them and
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: just pick up all the little details and everything.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: That's Brenton Strange a full conversation available on Jaguars dot
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Com after rookie minichamppractice the other day And yeah, so
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: his ability combined with Evans and then you got play
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: designers looking at it all offseason ideas to go with that,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and then they go draft somebody to fill that spot,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and hey, now the next couple of months, Press, Taylor
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and company are going to have some fun. I remember
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: when when Strange the pick was announced and the big
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: tight end from Georgia Washington was still on the board,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people were probably very surprised. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I had not watched tape of Strange up until that point,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, I better go watch the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: film on this guy to find out what the story is.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And when I turned on the film, I was like, Wow,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this is really a unique kind of a tight end.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: It's going to be I think, in today's day and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: age of the National Football League is going to be
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a very valuable player. And the Pittsburgh Steelers ended up
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: getting Washington I think later, maybe in the second round
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: or third round or whatever it was. And I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a good player too, But he's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: very different. He's one of those true whys he couldn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: play him in a role of the H or the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: F or anything of that nature. And so just to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: let people know, the F would be a full back
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the H would be just like a wing tight end
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that lines up more in the backfield, and Evan is
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: more of like an H tight end, you know, a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: guy that moves a lot. And Evans is a capable,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: willing blocker, is a a very strong blocker. No, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he does a good job with it. And do you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: want him to go bang in there all the time?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: No?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You want him running outs down the field. Well, you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just you have two guys that have a little bit
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: different skill sets, but at the same token, they can
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: do some similar things, but they're they're kind of better
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at you know, for example, like Strangers is probably a
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: little bit better at blocking in open space and being physical,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: whereas Evan might be a little bit faster when he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: gets vertical. I mean, so they each have a skill
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: set that the coaches are going to have a lot
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: of fun utilizing. And look, there's a lot of weapons
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in this offense now. So that leads us to our
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: next conversation on Jaguars Happy Hour and tint A XLAM
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and Jaguars dot Com j P. Shadwick, Jeff Logwan the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: expectations for this offense, and we just heard from Doug
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Peterson a little earlier about the expectations for the team
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: now rising and how do you manage those? Well, let's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: just go on the offensive side of the ball. When
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you've got Trevor obviously the big receivers coming back, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: add Ridley to that. You got the tight end room
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: going now a deep running back room, by the way,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to go with that, which, let me I just add
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a little quick little nugget. Who do you think is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: faster in the running back room? Oh gosh, that's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: good one, Etn. You know you got so or would
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you go with bigs b or who would you put it?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: How would you have one to two? I haven't. Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I mean here's the crazy thing, Etn. Probably in the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: open field, I think is probably the faster bi Bigsby
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: ran a better combine fort Etna. I mean think about
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and huge dude. He's bigger than you think, and he's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a big dude. When you see him in person, you're like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: good God. And he ran faster than Travis ETN. So
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's impressive. You know, you got two guys
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that can when they touch the ball, you could hold
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: your breath for an instant because they've got the speed
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to go to the house and you got Jeradas Johnson
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: who was brought in in this offseason, a veteran who's
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: been at it for a while. And Michael Hasey dies
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a great job last year, although you'd like to have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: him kind of more in that special team's role. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: if he's asked to do things, he's been very good
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at it. Can this be a thirty point per game offense?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That was what the Chiefs were just under thirty points
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: last Well, I think a lot of it depends on
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: how good your defense is, because time of possession is
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: gonna have. You know, you gotta have time possession to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: be able to score thirty points or an extra possession
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: or two. All right, So I mean if your defense
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: is giving up ten, eleven, twelve play scoring drives, you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: then no, you can't get to thirty points a game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But if your defense is stout and turning the ball
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: back to its offense or to the offense, then sure
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: they could score thirty. But the most important thing is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: scoring more than the opponent. Right, Yes, it's not thirty,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty one. Guess what if you got three
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and the other team's got zero, that's enough you're good.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Three nothing. I don't think we'll see any of those.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I played in one of those really New York Jets.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: When I was with the Jets, we played at Washington
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and we won three zip. I covered a three nothing
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Sun Bowl one year. Exciting huh in Oregon State. What
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a way to spend New Year's even El Paso exciting
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: game there, Now that'll bring him out. Yeah. I like
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: good defense, but not to the point of it being
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: three to nothing. Let's score some points, man, there's a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: point I love on offense sales tickets.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I was one of those people that held on to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I like good defense. I don't mind low scoring games.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Say I don't like good defense. I like good defense.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: There can be good defense in a fifty five sixty
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: points overall scored in a game. There can be moments
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of great defense, but you don't have the defense of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: dominance when you have a fifty five sixty five point
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: total game. No, that means teams are scoring on you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: sometimes and you know, and I don't know, can you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: have will there be dominance on the defensive side of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the ball anymore? I mean, who was the last great
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: dominant defense in the national he kind of looks at
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens, right, Okay, that's what's a milestone team,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: at least in today's best defense, probably forty nine ers. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I mean kind of looked at around the league. But
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you go back and you look at the Ravens, okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: when they were really good. Yeah, you go back prior
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to that. What do you think eighty five Bears? I mean,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that's one of the big milestone teams. Sure, I mean,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: can you have a team that has that dominant def
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, here's some of those Cowboys defenses were
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: pretty good. But here here's why I bring that up.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: On offense, you can be consistently good at scoring a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: lot of points if you have the quarterback correct right.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: On defense, it takes a lot of players. I mean,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: think about some of those great defenses that we're talking
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: about and the layers of great players that they had.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: That Broncos defense that won the Super Bowl. But they
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: weren't but they weren't on the level of the Ravens.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You know, Okay, okay, but they weren't on the level
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of the Bears or the Ravens. But I mean, that's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you have to have so many components to have that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: level of defense. Can you ever get there in free
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: agency unless all of a sudden you just you just
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: nail a couple drafts in a row. And I mean
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the the rules are slanted towards offense so much. Now,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that's right that you know, if you're gonna pile up
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: money on the defensive side of the ball, they're gonna
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: get yards on you anyway. Yeah, so it uh in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the yards or otherwise they're getting yards. Interesting conversation though,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: but are the days of the dominant defense gone? Yes, not,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: at least in Jacksonville. I want to see this defense
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: get dominant. Let's get some takeaways are out. Ye last
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: year they did a great job with that, did early
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and late mid early, and yeah they got a little
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: bit kind of in the middle and turnovers. I think
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: made this defense better than what they were. I think
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the takeaways, which are are great thing, don't get me wrong,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: but I think the takeaways may be masked a little
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: bit of of their issues that they were having. But
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean, as long as it's happening, that's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: good and so so, but you've got to progress to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: where Okay, for not getting that many takeaways. You still
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: have to elevate the level of play to a to
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a better level for this defense, and that's that's the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: challenge with Mike cald Wellings group. And I think Mike
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: cald Walls a is a is a good coach, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have learned a lot from year one,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and I think they're also they will have learned a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: lot about the personnel that they have on that side
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of the ball because they have a lot of young players.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And when you have young players, you think you know
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: what they do good. But sometimes until you get your
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: hands on them and get them in your meeting room
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and get them on your practice field for a long
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: period of time, sometimes it's hard to kind of figure
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: out exactly what they do well or get them in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: live action. Yeah, that's when you really find out well.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about Devin Lloyd. I mean, Devin Lloyd
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: didn't have any training camp last year, and so you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: thought that he would be okay, and then at the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: beginning of the season, he came out like Gangbusters and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: was playing fantastic and then hit a spot where he
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: struggled a little bit and I had to sit him down.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And then now all of a sudden, he started getting
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: better towards the end of the year. But that's one
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: player that I am really excited about watching this year
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: is Devin Lloyd. And the reason why I had a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: we had a little meet and Greek kind of thing
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: with some potential season ticket owners today and I was
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: asked about Devin Lloyd from one of the guys that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: was in there, and I said, you know, I said,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: out of all of the components of the defense and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: really the team in general, that's probably one of the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: more excited parts that I'm looking for to seeing what happens,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: because you know, he had moments where he struggled last year,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: but then he also showed moments of excellence. And when
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you hear about the type of person that he is
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and the type of leadership that he has shown in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: his past, you know that he has the makeup to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: come out of this on top. Can't wait to see
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: him play this year. Log's youre a wine drinker, right, yeah?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I mean sometimes well I need you to elevate your game.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Be experience with vine O four Napa Valley. It's the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: official wine club of the Jaguars. Sip on handcrafted Napa
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Valley Wines and show your team pride with every poor
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Visit vine zero four dot com and sign up to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: receive three or six premium Napa Valley wine bottles twice
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a year, along with exclusive access to private events and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: complementary tastings. Joined the Vine o four club today and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: toasted the Jags legacy with every sip. You're not a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: wine drinker. I could join the club. I could join
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I could join the club. That was like, that was
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a no. I could join the club now not a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: wine drinker. Hem. Trent Ballke on how the draft board fell.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: That's next on Jaguars half the Hour.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Checksonville Sports Talk for Checksonville Sports fans ten ten XL,
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: home of the Checksonville Jaguars.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But for the most part, you got to stick to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: your board and we did that. You know, the plan
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: wasn't to go in and draft three offensive players necessarily
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in a row. That's just what happened, right, But we're
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: excited about what happened. So again, you worry about what
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you can control. You worry about the plan that you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: have set forth internally, and you let other people judge
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: it however they want to.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: That's Trent Bulkey, Jaguars general manager, with John Osier, on
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast this week, available in the Official Jaguars
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: podcast Network. They sat down, they rehashed the draft to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: build up the aftermath and the first time seeing all
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the rookies on the field last weekend. So check it out.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: It's available now Jaguars dot com and click the podcast
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: link at the top of the homepage and you can
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: listen to Hey, guess what logs all the podcasts. They're
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: all right there. That's a good thing. They're free there too,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: all right. Can you subscribe? You can subscribe anywhere you want. iHeartRadio, iTunes,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Spotify where you download fine podcast. I'm a Spotify guy,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you are, Yeah, I'm a Spotify guy. I have it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: at the desk, like if I'm sitting in the office,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'll have it on Yeah, Spotify, Spotify. And that's the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: only one you're subscribed to. No, I'm subscribed to the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: iTunes I Feed apples. You may have heard of it. Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Company out of Washington. Yeah. So yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and I think I have the I Heart app too,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so I've got them all. I can get all the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Jaguars content. My ears can handle got a lot of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: content on your phone, then if you've got a lot
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of apps. Yeah, well I don't want to miss it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to miss it because I'm not on
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: every show. You you watch your own stuff too, don't you.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: It depends sometimes. I mean, it's a show things exactly.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the response that I wanted to hear.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That's all we're doing self evaluation. Watching the tape. Yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: watch the tape. Always a way to get check the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: check the tape Tuesday, like Thursday. What day is Tuesday? Thursday? Tuesday,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Today's Thursday. Yes, but that's another show, yes, which is
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: which is what? Jaguars Today is Jaguars Today with Mike
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Dempse on ten Town. There's something wrong with you two.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I know it's all good though. Hey, rookies. We talked
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: briefly about these guys, Anthony Harris in the offensive tackle
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Brenton Strange. We heard from earlier Bigsby of course, you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: know you mentioned there's some room for Harrison to grow,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: but it sounds like he could have an opportunity early. Well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Strange is going to get some time, obviously. Biggsby's going
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to rotate in there. Those these guys are pretty much
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: grown men. They're ready to roll. They can all grow
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: in certain ways, I'm sure, But but just seeing Strange
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and Bigsby up close to the first time this past weekend,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that was a little eye opening for me. I think
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that the ones you're talking about are immediate contributors, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I think you also have some immediate contributors from a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: special team standpoint. Abdullah, I think he's going to be
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: an immediate contributor on special team. He's broader up top
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: than I thought he was. Yeah, he's and he's he's fast, fast,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and he's got a great closing speed that is impressive,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and he's got great bend he can bend it. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: think the only thing, I mean, one of the reasons
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: why he fell to or where he was drafted is
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: where he was at is just because the height thing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, if all of a sudden he stretched out
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and he's six foot four, he ain't going to be
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: around and round what was it four or five? Five?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: May not be around and round two. Yeah, right, yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So I mean that's the only reason why. But uh,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I think it's a good draft.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: But again, we kind of did this exercise a couple
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and that you want to evaluate a draft,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: go back three years ago and we did that, or
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: go back to the draft three years ago and evaluate
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that draft and then you find out really how good
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it is. But from theppearances on the outside, it looks
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to be a really good draft. And I'm excited about it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about Harrison. And that was a guy that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I remember watching him and I went, Wow, this guy's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: got really good fundamentals. He's got really good feet, got
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: really good hands. But the thing that he did that
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was the most impressive watching him on film was just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: that the consistency at finishing and JP, how many times
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: have you told me or have you listened to me?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I've said, these guys got to finish better. They
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: got to finish better. I told you that all the time.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So you got that from me. Okay, we need some
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: finish at it. That's fine, and so at least it does.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: That's and you hear it out on the practice field
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: all the time. Finish and Harrison finishes really well watching
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the tape, and I will say that, Look, I've said
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: this before and I'm going to say it again because
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I really believe this that the Jaguars have one of
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the best offensive line coaches in the National Football League
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in Phil Rosher. I mean, if you think about what
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: he was able to do with Juwan Taylor in one
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: year and what he was able to do with the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: feet of Cam Robinson in a limited amount of time.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to change guys' old habits and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to change the way a guy works his feet. But
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he was able to do that with those two guys
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in a short amount of time, and he had Ben
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Bart's improving as a starter at the beginning of the year.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jowan Taylor gets twenty million dollars a year
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: going to send him as I hope he sends him
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: something and JP, if it's fruit, he's cheap. It better
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: not be a fruit basket. Better be something better than that.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm like a parcel of land
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: that has one hundred acres of apple trees or something
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that absolutely no no. And he's got some great guys
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to work with, and yeah, that was a big piece
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of it. Obviously, the guys who stepped in when players
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: were injured played well on top of that, so they
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: were ready to go. That tells you about the coaching
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: behind it too well. And I'm excited to see how
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: BArch comes back from the injury. Yeah, I mean, last
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we heard from Trent Balkey, at least in a setting
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: with press conference setting was yeah, he may not be
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: ready for the start of training camp. That's what Balkey said.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, it's still very early. We got
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: plenty of time. But I mean he's a guy that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I thought he improved. And you remember I gave him
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: like one of the most improved Player awards a couple
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of years ago because I thought he played exceptionally well
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and made I don't remember that, but I'm sure two
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: years ago I said I thought he was one of
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the most improved players on his FOOTE. Did you get
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: an actual trophy for him? Well, I don't. I don't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: give out trophies. I give out just compliments of verbal congratulations. Yes, yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it's got no value whatsoever. But I thought Bart's did
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a tremendous job of improving in the or so last
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: year was the twenty two. So after the twenty one campaign,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the most improved players
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: on the football team, did a great job, and then
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: he got hurt this past year. I know he's working
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: his way back again. I've said this also before that
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Robbie in the training room is one of the best
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: rehabilitation guys in the business. And these guys that are
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: coming back from any kind of surgery are in very
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: good hands with Jeff and Robbie and that whole staff.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: They do a great job. So I'm looking forward to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: seeing Bartch come back and see him compete and see
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: him get better. And then watching some of these young
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: guys that they drafted, you know from Central Florida, you
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: got one, you got another one from Appalachia State, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the Hodges kid, who's a local guy. Seeing how they're
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: going to do, and you know, I like it, you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and look, Anton Harrison is going to be living up
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to some high expectations. I mean, the first round pick
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman in this franchise, especially the one that was
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: picked first by the name of Boselli, did a pretty
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: good job. EUGM. Monroe was a good, solid player but
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: didn't get a second contract here, No, And then Luke
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Joe Cool was either Oh that was a rough one.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be a good one. Boy.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I missed that one and Anton Harrison I think is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be a really good one as well. So it's
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to watch the progression. We're back in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a moment. Signings. The Jaguars have signed some players this week.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Will recap it all when we return. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: The station that the Jaguars listened to ten ten XL,
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Thursday afternoon.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot com or Jaguars
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: social media, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. A live look at
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: rainy downtown Jacksonville in the Miller Electric Center. It will
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: be open for business July first. The Jaguars will get
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the keys, begin moving in. They'll be ready for training
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: camp on those fields in front of those stands, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: even with rain like this, the fans will be covered
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: because there's a cover over the stands. How about that. Yeah,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a really really nice set up there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: And the nice thing is is that the fans or
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the stands have a northern face. So you mentioned this
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: sun at the back. That's a good thing. We're gonna
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: get the high tide report too. Well, maybe maybe it's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a cool, cool complex. I can't wait to see it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: What's amazing is how good the grass looks. It's fantastic.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's all irrigated from underneath. Wow, and air
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: blowing and the whole thing. That's pretty crazy. Now irrigated
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: from underneath. There's a pump somewhere over there. That pump
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: send the water from underneath, so it doesn't have sprinkler
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: heads that pop up and go, and no crown either
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: because it all gets sucked out interest or rainwater. What
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: kind of grass JP, I'm guessing Bermuda for nineteen is
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: my guess, tiff Way Bermuda. I'm guessing that's the only
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: grass I know right now. It's not Saint Augustin. It's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the only when it's in your memory bank, that's usually
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the one football field us right. I don't know bluegrass,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, I have no idea. I don't know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: but it's gonna be awesome. So we're looking forward to that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: We'll have some new studios in there as well. Haven't
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a chance to see those. They're being built right now.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of surprises coming. A little
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: later this summer and into the fall. And there's no
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: better time to come a Daily's Place Blue member than
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: right now. Reserve your twenty three Premium seat membership or
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: your individual Luxury experience today and you'll get guaranteed seats
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: in the best locations for all the shows and so
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: much more. Email ticketing at boldevents dot com or called
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: nine oh four six three three two thousand. You know, logs,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this during the break. We mentioned
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that your award that you gave out to to Ben Bart. Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: it was a verbal award. Remember you know we used
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to have the All Madden Team. I think they gave
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: out jackets for that. Maybe no, they didn't give anything out. Okay,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? All Iron team? Phil Simms used
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to have like an iron little award thing you should
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: give out like a log of an award like and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: have it like a like a piece of wood or
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: something like. It's a piece of wood. Yeah, log, a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: log of a log. See I like that. I like that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what would would be for I don't
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: know either. Maybe you should. You know, we're gonna engrave
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: something on the log. J Hey, it's your award. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: don't know where's he wh What do you want to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: do with that? Give it to players? Does that have
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to be treated for bugs and all that? Probably so
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it's gonna go bad. Yeah, you don't want that, but
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody some keepsake for some of these guys
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Sure, I'm sure they
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: would go right up. How many kind of wards? How
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: many wards are we talking about? Okay, maybe you could
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: do give me some categories. All right, if we're going
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to do an awards, we got to have categories. Comebacks
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: from the most surgeries, that would be one. Now, let's
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: just have come back comeback Player of the Year, biggest
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: bass caught in the off season. No, you could do
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that to that's terrible. No, that's terrible. Most impactful defensive lineman,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: there's one one. It could be anything you want. It's arbitra.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Who would you give that to? This from this past season?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton, that'd be that'd be a good one. That'd
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: be a good candidate. Is this a committee meeting right now?
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We're having a committee. But if you had to give
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: an award to the most impactful defensive lineman from twenty twenty,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: would you're not. Are you counting outside linebackers in this, Yes,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you'd have to Josh Allen down the stretch was fantastic,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: he was, He was fantastic. Last month of the season
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: was fantastic. Yes, so that's hard and got him into playoffs,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: correct with the play against Tennessee. Yeah, Code of the year.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: You know, even though outside linebackers are called linebackers, I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: mean I still consider them part of the big guys group.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So there's you get had all kind of award categories. Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: if you had to give out a most improved player
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: from this past year, who would you give it to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: from twenty one to twenty two? Yes, oh, Trevor absolutely
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: all day? Who would be in cold do that from
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the first half to second half if you wanted to, Yeah, somewhat.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Who would you give it to thee in a like
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: second place finisher? I think that's a great question. It's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a good one. Rayshawn Jenkins need to be a good candidate. Well,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: he was good anyway, but he got kicked out a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: couple of times two years ago, you know, upset with
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: everything going on. I love his energy. Glad that he
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: was able to re sign. Another one would be Juan Taylor,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: who we just guy that got dramatically better. All right, Well,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: who's gonna win him this year? Who's gonna who's gonna
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: be the most That's why we play the game. This
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: is why it's May and we're on the radio. We
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: got to talk about why we play the games. So
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you're in for this award idea. I don't know, I like.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I like the award idea. I don't know who's paying
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: for these awards. We just need to, you know, find
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a new sponsor. We need to find a chainsaw guy
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to make some trophy. We could make the trophies easy.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: That's the easy party. I like it. I do like it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: We need something like that. We need you back in
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the film room too, by the way, I bet in
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the film Well, no, we need you like with the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: public film room presenting it to fans. I know they
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: didn't ask you. I know your agent was involved. It's
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, you know. The interesting thing I missed that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how it works now because with
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the college players, are you allowed to show the college film?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably not. Well, you have to. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: think there has to be a certain amount of money
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that's paid for the for the right to show that. So,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's Does the league pay
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: for that? Does the team pay for that? Probably so?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: But I mean I can watch it all. Can we
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: can we show it here on Happy Hour one day?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Probably not? I don't know, though I'm not a lawyer.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know either. And if so, can you reach
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: into your pocket and and put your money into the slot?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I don't even think they used that. That's so obsolete
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: now too. You pay everything with your phone? Okay, do that,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: so then you can venmo that. You can venmo Apple
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: pay but you're not. Yeah, you're an Apple guy. Who's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that money go to? That go to n C A A?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Does it go to the xos people who run the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: n I L? Right? Yeah? Who gets paid somebody's I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: don't know, somebody's getting paid for that. What's the highest
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's probably not the guy who shot it at the end.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of new to this whole ni L thing,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: aren't we all? And so tell me and explain to me.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Can a guy actually come into the league and take
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a pay cut? Is that possible? I mean, it depends
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: on because you're getting you're getting paid for your name,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: image or likeness, and at some places, which is a
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: bunch of fooy. I mean, that's we're getting paid to play.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: That's what they're signed for is use of their name,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: image and likeness. Correct, But they're getting paid to play,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: telling you they're getting paid for their name, image and likeness.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And then depending on the place, some some places have
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a bigger fund behind that. And you know, yes, in theory,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: if you're a really popular college player at a strong
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: institution with a big donor base and all that, you
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: can make a lot of money. And maybe you don't
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: play that well, you get drafted in the seventh round
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and you would take a pick cut. In theory, that's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: crazy good. Yeah, what's the highest ni nil guy? You know?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Do you know, I'm just out of curiosity. It changes
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: by the week. I mean, I mean, ballpark, give me
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a give me a neighborhood. I'm in. You know, Bryce
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Young was got the first million dollar deal. Okay, so
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of years ago now so, and I'm
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: sure it grew after he won the Heisman. So there's
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: some of that that. I mean, I would love to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: see some of the numbers of what these guys are
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: are going to be making. The other part of that,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: too is you see a number reported on some of that,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: But who's putting that number out is the nil collective?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: People trying to get more clients. Remember school, do I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: who you gotta? Can you trust the number? I don't
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: know about all the time if you can't. When I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was in college, you know, a scholarship athlete at the time,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you weren't allowed to work because it would do something
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I guess you would be in violation of your scholarship agreement.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And so I used to work and get paid cash
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: on the side, and statute of limitations up on this
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: or I would think so Indianapolis, I would think so.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: But I mean I was getting paid I think like
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: five bucks an hour cash. Wow, raking it in. I'm
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: killing it, killing it, you know. But there was side
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: benefits and that the place actually served to lunch, which
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I got to eat for free there. And then when
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I was a violation when I wasn't working, I got
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to drink for free. That's a third and a bigger
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: violation that was That's where I made my money. That's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the key. I'm just kidding. That's that's why you were
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: working full of kid a Kidder. All right, let's quickly
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: go around the NFL and former NFL MVP Matt Ryan
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: is joining CBS Sports as an analyst. He was in
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the studio after the season on NFL Today, of course,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: as saying he's not retired because the Colts still owe
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: him money, by the way, correct, And if he says
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: that I am retired, the Colts could dispute the payments
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that are still guaranteed to Matt Ryan. So Matt is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: smart and said that, hey, I'm not retired. I'm always
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: looking at opportunities because if he says anything different, and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: beside the other thing, working for as a broadcaster don't
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: pay fifteen to twenty million like it pays to play
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football Not for most, yes, analysts, yes, some,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: not very few. I mean there's one Romoo. He's making
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Troy's nineteen whatever it is. I BET's making close to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady's going to be making a bunch whenever whatever
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: if he yeah, goes in. But I mean Troy, I'm
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: sure makes very good money. But he's not making Tony
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Romo money. I bet he is. Think so, I bet
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: he is. I hope you when they moved over to ESPN.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think him and Joe and Joe's got it. Good
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: for them, Good for them. So Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Caldwell will attend the Coach Accelerated Program at the spring
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: meeting May twenty first through twenty third of Minneapolis forty
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: coaches participate. Sixteen we're in that program last year, including
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell, and that puts a diverse collection of coaches
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: in the same room as NFL owners for three days well,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and that's good. I mean, it gives the opportunity for
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: owners to meet Mike Caldwell and to get to know
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: him so that when openings become available, there is a
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: relationship that has begun already, and I think that's a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: real positive thing by the league, and hopefully it works
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: to allow more of the minority coaches to get positions
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Loggs your homework assignment this week,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: work on categories for your new awards next year, and
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I will study and Google search nil payments. It's great,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Steff Logerman, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.