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Guest Hypnotist Kevin Moran on The Impact on Male Victims · The Hypnotist

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Hi, it's Adam here and welcome to the hypnotist.
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And today I'm not going to be your hypnotist.
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I have a guest hypnotist joining me to have a chat about hypnosis
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and then do a little bit of hypnosis for you.
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So welcome to the show, Kevin Moran.
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Hi, thank you for inviting me today, Adam.
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Great to have you on the show. We met very briefly at the Irish
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Hypnotherapy Conference. I think you flew all the way
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from the States to to Ireland. For those that don't know you,
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give us a bit of an intro to who you are and the type of hypnosis
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you like to do. Yes.
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So my name is Kevin. I am a hypnotherapist and coach
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who works with general issues, sexual issues, especially sexual
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trauma, anxiety in the bedroom. I also work with adults who are
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dealing with multiple issues through emotional Wellness
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coaching that involves a program over multiple sessions involving
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using specialist techniques such as the Bunny talk process which
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was taught to me by Claudia Ricard.
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I also offer extended coaching sessions, which not not everyone
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does, where one can see their hypnotherapist every six months,
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not unlike a dental cleaning because we get dental cleanings
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every six months for our or long term oral health so why not the
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same for hypnosis and mental health?
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No, I think I think it's a great idea and I think people
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underestimate just like how life can take its toll.
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And, and I think in my experience, a lot of people will
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see a hypnotherapist if they've got a very clearly defined
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problem or if it's reached the point of really affecting the
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quality of their life. Maybe it is, you know, some kind
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of trauma or intrusive thoughts or it might be an issue like
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weight loss. But I think actually there is
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another side to that coin, which is if it can help deal with a
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problem, surely it can help just enhance the quality of your
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life. You don't need a problem to
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benefit from hypnotherapy. What was it that led you to
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become aware of or interested in hypnotherapy?
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Was it something specific or you just became curious about it?
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Well, I had a curiosity with hypnosis from an early age, but
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the first experience I had real. Experience.
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That I had with hypnosis and hypnotherapy was when I was 12
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years old. I was in a sitting on the grass
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in a town square and there were these two girls, didn't know
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them, but they were playing around with trance and hypnosis.
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I'm not sure if they knew what that was at the time, but they
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invited me over and did some work on me.
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That led me into a very relaxed state and we ate.
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There were Hornets nearby in the grass.
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I had a fear of bees at the time and while in this deeply relaxed
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trance state, I felt Hornets crawling across my hands and I
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didn't react and. The.
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Girl who was doing the hypnotizing was doing
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hypnotherapy and didn't even know it because after that I no
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longer had a fear of bees and of course the neuro pathways.
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It rewilded and the phobia disappeared.
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And from that point on I became very interested in hypnosis and
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hypnotherapy in general as I was a teenager and as I grew older
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well into adulthood did dabble in hypnosis.
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Mostly did it through just recreational having fun with
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hypnosis with other people. But it wasn't until I was at a
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low point in my life about 2 1/2 years ago where I decided that
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going into the new year I was going to change my life, do new
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things, and one of those things was to take practical hypnosis
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training. Everything up to that point had
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been self-taught and I found Mike Mandel appeared on page one
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in a Google search and I felt the best way to go was to do in
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person training. So I did his five day in person
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training in Toronto, had an amazing experience, met another
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attendee who gave me a free session in the hotel lobby.
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I went home, people said I was a completely different person.
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I felt amazing, gave me a new sense of confidence, and that
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inspired me to pursue hypnotherapy.
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After that and since then, I've taken many trainings, learned
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from a lot of different people, very diligently practiced and
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did a lot of free sessions, and then I launched my practice.
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Amazing. And, and for those listening
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that aren't familiar with Mike Mandel, he and a guy called
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Chris have an excellent podcast called Brain software.
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I think Mike is a a fantastic trainer, very nice guy as well.
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So yeah, check out brain software.
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If you're listening to this podcast, you like hypnosis,
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check out Brain Software by Mike Mandel.
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So you did the training and you thought, OK, you know, I could
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turn this into a, an income stream, you know, and I think
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the best income streams are that you make money while making the
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world a better place. You're helping other people and,
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and, and was that a almost like the reason for the training?
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Or was it you wanted to get trained and then you thought,
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well, now I'm trained. I may as well, you know, have
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this kind of clinic. Which was it, the chicken or the
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egg that came first for you? I would say the chicken 1st.
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I wanted to just learn. I was a pure learner.
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I wanted to learn more hypnosis. The thought of maybe turning it
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into a career someday did cross my mind, but I felt that
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learning was what I loved most about it.
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And I would say in the first two years of my journey, and keeping
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in mind I also was working a day job, I probably put in the same
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amount of time and energy into learning.
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Hypnosis is taking a full course load of college.
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I really pushed the limits of what I could handle.
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But that's how much I love hypnosis and wanted to learn and
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become as good as I possibly could.
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And I I just loved it so much that eventually, sooner or
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later, that love of pure learning would crossover into
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wanting to do it professionally and help people.
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And I still love learning. It's a never ending journey, but
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it's nice to be able to. Do both at this.
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Point Yeah, I think it's an incredible distinction when
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you're learning something that you want to learn as opposed to
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learning because you have to learn it.
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And I remember, you know, at school I knew I was quite smart,
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but never really wanted to learn what I was being taught.
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And, and I even did a degree in psychology, but it wasn't what I
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thought it was going to be. When I did my postgraduate stuff
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in hypnosis, suddenly I was getting distinctions and very
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high grades because it was coming from a place of passion
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and enthusiasm as opposed to, oh, I have to learn this kind of
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stuff to pass an exam. It's a very different energy.
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So it's great talking to people that have that kind of passion
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for learning because it is this kind of moving space.
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You can't, you know, do a few modules and then you know it.
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You know that there's always this rabbit hole of I can learn
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this kind of approach and that kind of approach.
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What are the modalities or the, let's say the branches within
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hypnotherapy that particularly captured your imagination?
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Well, I would have to say it all started with Mike.
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That was my foundational learning and I knew that as a
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learner. It was like the building of a
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house and the work with Mike was the concrete foundation that the
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rest of the house would be built on.
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And the rest of that house and all the furniture in it would be
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what I would gain from going out into the world and learning from
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other practitioners, whether it was through hypnosis or taking
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hypnotherapy workshops. And it was always about finding.
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What appealed to me most? As a learner and a practitioner,
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because there is so much out there to learn in so many
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different ways of doing the same stuff.
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The technique, for example, that we use is only half the
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equation. The other half is our own
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personality. And we both know Karl Smith.
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He talks about the real niche being our personality.
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So when one person is considering learning something
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in hypnosis and hypnotherapy, the stuff that works best for us
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is the stuff that fits us like a glove.
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If it doesn't, it just seems clunky and weird when that
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person is using it. So it was always about being, I
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suppose you could say, the smart shopper.
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Does this resonate with me? Is this a hypnotherapy workshop
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that I want to take and that's why I would learn with Kaz Riley
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and Richard Hill and Timothy September and is enter the Loop.
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Recently I've trained with Claudia Ricard and her Bunny
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Talk process has really resonated with me and has become
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the cornerstone of my extended emotional Wellness program.
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It's really about, and often when we take these trainings, we
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get to experience them on the receiving end.
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And when we do, we're like, Oh my God, this is perfect for me.
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And it's those ones that really resonate with us where we're
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going to actually invest the time being as good as we can
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possibly be and have that be one of our key tools for helping
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others. Yeah, you you kind of connect
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with it and listen to the show. Might recall that we had Claudia
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on as a as another guest hypnotist.
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And you know, I, I saw so many parallels between Claudia's
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Bunny talk process and Bob Burns the swan.
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You know, kind of protocol because it's an evolved version
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of just idiomotor responses, you know, and and to some extent
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parts therapy. It's, you know, a, a very
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powerful, you know, kind of way of communicating with the
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unconscious to facilitate change.
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And, you know, it's great that you've kind of connected with
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that. I think for me it was heart
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therapy and, and metaphor that really kind of was my thing that
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really kind of resonated. And, and, and the great thing
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is, is that you can know about all these kind of modalities and
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protocols, but you only have to find two or three that really
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kind of resonate. And I think, I think there's a,
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a Bruce Lee quote, which is something like, you know, I
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don't fear that the person that's practiced 10,000 kicks, I
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fear the person that's practiced one kick 10,000 times.
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And there is this almost kind of element of ability that comes
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from finding those tiny distinctions in, in specializing
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in something rather than I think in all honesty, a mistake that
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some hypnotherapists make is they dabble in lots and lots and
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lots of different kind of modalities and protocols and
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don't really become exceptional in any, in any one of them.
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Earlier when you mentioned that you know, kind of sexual trauma
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and and kind of sexual issues was something that I imagine
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similar to the modalities that resonated with you, that was a
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topic or an issue that resonated with you.
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What was there something in particular that kind of made
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that more appealing than let's say what a lot of people
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gravitate towards, which is kind of like addictions and habits
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and weight loss and those kind of things?
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Was there some reason that that became or almost an area of
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interest more than other areas for you?
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Yes, the anything involving recreational hypnosis
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notwithstanding, I had some own personal traumas of my own as an
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adult and I had an experience while training with Kaz that
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really made me realize. What I could?
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Do with these tools to help people like myself.
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And it's also an issue that is quite common but rarely talked
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about. And that is when men are
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sexually assaulted by women. Nobody talks about that, but it
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does happen and often we can use the same tools and it can
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manifest itself in the same ways.
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Anxiety, pretty much any any other panic attacks and shame
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and guilt. The sort of stuff that we help
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with women can be helped for used to help men because not
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only do we is it the same kind of trauma, we have even more
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things stacked against us when it does happen after the fact,
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because we live in a culture that Oh no, this, this doesn't
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happen to men. Maybe in prison, maybe in the
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gay community, but it doesn't who?
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Who said that? That women can act badly and you
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and I know that's total BS. It does happen.
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So men will often have to deal with not only the shame and the
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guilt, but the either the, the, the fact that they are not
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believed or the perception that they will not be believed.
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Both with the cultural aspect, believe that we have to be the
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alpha male. The masculine doesn't happen to
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men, but it does doesn't have to involve violence.
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It can involve alcohol, drugs, coercion, manipulation.
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And it's what I do. I, I work with men who have been
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through the same situation and I work with women who have been
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through the same situation. But people need to understand
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that this issue extends across all genders.
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And, and, and I think you, you're absolutely right, there
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is a, a taboo connected with, with any kind of sexual kind of
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issues. But in particular, you know,
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almost like the narrative in the same way that a lot of men that
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are on the receiving end of domestic violence, we'd never
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talk about that because they would be deemed to be, well,
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they're, they're weak or they're not strong.
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Like there's lots of judgement and perceptions connected to
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these things. So I think because of male
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stereotypes and kind of societal norms, there was actually a, a
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penalty almost for kind of talking up about these kind of
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things, which I imagine for a lot of men, that would mean that
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they actually hold a lot of, you know, because of the shame and,
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and, and perhaps fear of judgement.
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There's a lot of stuff kept inside.
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And it's great that you specialized in this area because
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it's, it's a safe space for, for men to kind of communicate with.
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My perception of a lot of sexual assault in particular is that
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it's, it's rarely about sex and desire and more about power.
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What, what, what if the, the, the trends or the, let's say,
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realizations or evaluations that you've come to working with men
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in this area that might surprise people that that don't really,
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you know, have too much knowledge about what happens in
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this area? Well, it is off.
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You are correct. It is about power rather than
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sex. And of course we have women who
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want to assert that power over a man.
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It happens. And men, as I mentioned earlier
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with the culture, men are supposed to be the one in power.
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That's the way our culture says it has to be.
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So when a man finds himself not in the position of power, he
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internalizes that sense of shame, guilt, like I'm there's
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something wrong with me and there isn't.
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It doesn't make you any less of a man, because this is the sort
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of thing that can happen literally to anybody.
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Yeah, I also think there's a a huge amount of double standards
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in, in terms of what's OK, because if you know, here in the
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UK, occasionally there's stories of a female teacher in a sexual
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relationship with a male student.
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And quite often if you look at the social media comments on
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stories like that, it's like, hey, lucky guy, you know, that's
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the schoolboy's fantasy. Whereas when the roles are
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reversed and it's kind of like, you know, the narrative isn't
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sexy female teacher and and male student, it's kind of creepy
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male teacher and vulnerable female student.
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Exactly the same power dynamics are taking place there.
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But when a man does it, it's kind of like, OK, what a creepy
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predator. And when a female does it, it's
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kind of like, well, lucky male student there.
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There's a huge amount of double standards.
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There was a, a video going around on social media of a
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fairly attractive woman, in all honesty, forcing like a toddler,
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we're talking like 2-3 years old to have to, to kiss.
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OK, now you could see this, this child did not want to do that.
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But kind of like grabbing the head, forcing a kiss.
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And I just think it would be a huge backlash if that was a man
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doing that to like a three-year old girl, whereas actually, you
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know, a female doing that. And it's kind of like, you know,
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the overall narratives, lucky little fella, you know, kind of
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narrative. Like do you see these kind of
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extreme double standards which don't treat, you know, kind of
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female power dynamics differently to to male power
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dynamics? Absolutely.
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And in the in the United States there is a well documented case
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where a female teacher began a relationship with a 12, excuse
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me, 13 year old student. And it was national news, widely
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publicized. You may or may not have heard of
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that. And they did wind wind up
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marrying each other. But at the time it really
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started a discussion of had that been a male teacher sleeping
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with a 13 year old student who was a girl, it would have had a
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completely different response, not just from society, but also
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from the authorities. A lot of people's like, Oh well,
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lucky him, he got to sleep with this hot blonde teacher where
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And it it just raised a lot of questions.
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Yeah, double. Standard.
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It's huge amount of double standards because I think there
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is this kind of, and I, and I think it's a good thing.
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You know, I think, you know, for, for me, I would describe
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myself as a feminist in the sense that I believe that, you
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know, I believe in equal rights and equal opportunities, but,
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you know, it has to go both ways.
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It should be like equal standards in terms of, you know,
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what's OK in terms of crime and criminal and, and and kind of
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abuse of power, which it is in in a lot of cases that should
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also be evenly spread. What are the surprising things
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that you've encountered working with clients that most people
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wouldn't even be aware of? Well, I have met those who have
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met. People.
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Who believed their story initially, but then didn't
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believe them because solely because they didn't go to the
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police or file a lawsuit like taking them to court was The X
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Factor in whether they were telling the truth or not.
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OK. And for the record, those who
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lie about being sexually assaulted, it dehumanizes those
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who have actually been through that trauma.
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It's it almost I, it pisses me off almost as much as with the
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perpetrators and yeah, I've. I've met people who basically
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said that, that it's like, oh, did you go to the police after
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it happened or have you filed A lawsuit since then?
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Well, no, I haven't because if I go to court, it's he sheds, he
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said, she said, so who would believe me?
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And it's like, Oh, well, if you didn't go to the police and you
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didn't file a civil lawsuit, even in the face of probably not
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being believed or anything coming of it, you must be a
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liar. And it's just another reason why
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a man wouldn't do that. And it's we face a lot of the
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same challenges that women have in the aftermath of traumas like
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that. And I think the, the conviction
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rates of, of, of something like rape where it's male on female,
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even if there is kind of, let's say, genetic evidence, like, you
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know, the, the evidence of penetration and, and kind of
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sperm and that kind of stuff is still incredibly low.
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But just the biology of males and females means it's much more
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difficult to, to prove. And, and again, it comes down to
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this kind of perception of consent.
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I think if a woman says that she was sexually assaulted, that's
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more likely to believe than if a man was to say the same thing,
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because I think the narrative is that, well, all men want sex
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and, and they're the initiators. So if it's happening the other
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way around, I think a lot of people just assumed that, you
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know, it's either untrue or, or something, or it's, it's not of
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the same severity. You know, it's, it's somehow,
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you know, kind of diluted in its, in its significance.
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What are some of the repercussions of some of that is
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on the receiving end of sexual assault by a woman?
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You've mentioned kind of guilt and and shame, you know, does it
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affect future relationships? What are the some of the
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implications of that? I can answer that.
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And one other thing that I wanted to mention based on
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something you just said a second ago, is I had a case where a man
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did go to the police after being assaulted by a woman.
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And when talking to the police, they asked him, well, did you
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have an erection when it happened?
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And he said yes. And they were like, Oh, well,
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then it wasn't rape for that. Reason alone.
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But those who are well informed on these issues knows that an
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erection can be involuntary, just as female arousal can be
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involuntary. Even when they're being
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assaulted doesn't mean they're enjoying it.
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It is a physiological response that happens automatically with
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the body. So to your other question, some
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of the repercussions for men who have been through these
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experiences, some of the most common ones that I see are often
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through bedroom anxiety. They sometimes have performance
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issues, they have social anxiety, they have panic attacks
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and some of those things can happen outside.
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Of the bedroom. But a lot of it can happen
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inside of the bedroom and it can have a detrimental effect on
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relationships. I've had men who were very, if
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they, if their partner decided to take the lead and be
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assertive in initiating physical contact to have sex, it would
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trigger them and they would start having anxiety and they're
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like, no, this, I'm not comfortable with this.
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So it goes back to the power dynamics.
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Sometimes they understand consciously that their love,
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that their lover is just expressing what they want in a
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healthy fashion, but it doesn't matter because unconsciously
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they're being triggered by this trauma.
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So you have anxiety, there's panic attacks, performance
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issues in bed. And it's not the fault of the
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partner, it's the fault of the past trauma that this person has
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experienced. And if we can.
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Help. Them overcome these triggers and
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work with them, then they can have a healthy relationship and
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a healthy sex life with their partner by overcoming these
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issues that they have in the present day stemming from the
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past. Yeah.
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And I think that, I mean, that a good sex life is so important to
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any kind of relationship. And anything that kind of
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impedes that, you know, potentially means that good
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relationships may not work out because, you know, of something
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that had nothing to do with that relationship but may have had
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something to do with the previous, previous kind of
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dramatic event. So, you know, again, you know,
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if anyone's listened to this and they have, you know, been on the
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receiving end of something like that, you know, check out, you
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know, Kevin and, and particularly if it's, you know,
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if you're a man listening to this, you know, Kevin is the
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person to to go to, if people are listening and they wanted to
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kind of learn more about you or reach out, is there a preferred
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way that they can kind of get in contact with you?
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Yes, the best way to get in contact me would be via my
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website acadianrockhypnosis.com. We'll make sure there's a link
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in the in the description so you don't have to remember that if
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you're listening. Just check out the description
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and you can have a look at that. And, and Kevin, is there a
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hypnosis experience that you're able to share with us that might
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be useful for anyone listening to this?
28:11
Yeah, I can. I would say you I mean a
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hypnosis experience helping someone with this particular
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issue just. It could be with this or it
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could be, you know, with, you know, something traumatic of,
28:25
you know, more broad, but but whatever you feel is, is, is the
28:28
right thing to do. And I'll I'll, I'll just pretend
28:31
to be the client in this case. You can direct it at someone,
28:33
but obviously it's for whoever's listening.
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OK, I can think of a example. I will say that this actually
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was with a female client rather than a male client and what she
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was going through. She initially came to me because
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she was stuck in a narcissistic marriage.
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Her husband was doing all the things to her that are the
29:01
hallmarks of a narcissistic relationship.
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He would love bomb her. He would gaslight her.
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He was emotionally and mentally abusive.
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And when she first came to me, she clearly wanted out but
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didn't know what to do. She was trying to reason with
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him, which as we know anybody who's familiar with those kinds
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of dynamics, A narcissist can't be reasoned with.
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She was so emotionally born down that she was pretty much her
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definition of reality had been so skewed that she didn't know
29:39
what to believe anymore or what to do.
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And as we work together, it became apparent, and it came
29:46
out, not in the first session, but apparently came out that she
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was being sexually abused by her husband as well.
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And when you have that overlap of narcissistic abuse and sexual
30:04
abuse, the person may not even realize, the survivor may not
30:09
realize that they're being sexually abused.
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And then they may get gaslighted after the fact.
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Oh, that didn't happen. Oh, you wanted it?
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You're overreacting. And.
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They. Don't seek help for that.
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And usually when somebody might come to me for issues stemming
30:32
from narcissist abuse, the sexual abuse comes out later or
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someone will come to me for issues stemming from sexual
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abuse and then come to find out that there is narcissistic abuse
30:48
going on. So with this woman that I was
30:51
working with, knowing that she wanted out, she had already made
30:57
her personal choice. That's a personal choice.
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She wanted out of that marriage because it's not our place as
31:04
hypnotist, therapist, counselors to make that call.
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So it became about working with her through parts work, through
31:13
coaching, to at least find, as it turns out, her inner Wonder
31:19
Woman, as that part of her came to be known to stand up for
31:23
herself, to assert herself so that she can make her own
31:27
decisions and make those choices that were right for her to
31:32
regain. Herself trust.
31:35
Because that's what she needed AF.
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What happens next is completely up to her and we then wound up
31:46
doing 6 sessions together and we when I do these sort of
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sessions, there's longer intervals between as the later
31:59
sessions go on so that they have time to process the work to take
32:04
action based on what they've learned.
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By the time we met for our final session, she had moved out,
32:13
found her own place and was in the process of looking, filing
32:18
the divorce papers. And our last session was all
32:23
about overcoming the fear and the potential pain of following
32:29
through on that final step. And as far as I know, she filed
32:35
for the divorce. She's completely cut the cord
32:38
from her ex-husband. I did ask her if she wanted some
32:43
assistance with moving on knowing that she had been
32:48
sexually abused in that marriage.
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And we did wind up doing another couple of sessions after that to
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work on the anxiety that she was still feeling because she still
33:00
had some concerns about future relationships and how her
33:04
experiences with her ex-husband would affect her future
33:07
relationships. So that's what it became about
33:11
is not only helping her stand up for herself to get out of her
33:16
current situation, but to prepare her for the help her
33:20
prepare for the next phase of her life, the life that she
33:25
wanted. Yeah, I mean that that, that
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sounds really empowering. So if, if, if you want to do
33:35
like a little bit of hypnosis, maybe for that final bit of kind
33:38
of like feeling empowered, because I think that'd be useful
33:41
for a lot of people that you know, and who hasn't had a
33:44
difficult past, maybe not as difficult as that particular
33:46
client, but almost like letting go of the past to feel empowered
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going forward might be a useful thing.
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So I'll, I'll put myself on you and then over to you for for a
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little hypnosis session. OK.
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And now? I'm going to invite you to find
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a comfortable. Place to sit.
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And you can. Just sit.
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There and look at a particular. Space A particular point
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perhaps? It's a spot on the ceiling, or
34:29
perhaps an object in front of you.
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And sitting on. That comfortable place that
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you're sitting and you can. Notice the sound of your own
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breathing and listening to the sound of my voice and really
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focus on that spot. And as you listen, look further
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into that spot. Notice that as you breathe more
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deeply now and listening to the sound of my voice and focusing.
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You might begin to. Notice that when you reach that
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level of breathing that is right for you, the mind slows down.
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And when the mind slows down, you become more relaxed.
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And the more relaxed you feel, your breathing gets easier.
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And when you're breathing gets easier, the better you feel
35:34
throughout your body feeling that good feeling.
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All the negative emotions in your body are being washed away
35:42
by only good feelings brought in by the sound of your breathing
35:46
and my voice as you focus on that spot.
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That's right. Just continue to allow that
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listening to the sound of your breathing and my voice.
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You're mine. Slowing down, slowing down,
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slowing down. And sooner or later, when you're
36:14
ready, you can just allow your eyes to close.
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That's right. And continuing to enjoy this
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feeling that you're experiencing, listening to the
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sound of your own breathing and in through your nose and out
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through your mouth. You may notice that with each
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breath that you take, you go deeper.
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That's right, spoke into singing on the sound of your own
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breathing in my voice. Each breath takes you deeper and
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deeper and deeper. That's right.
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And as you go to that deep level that is just right for you, you
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can notice that there is a beautiful set of steps.
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There are 10 steps and you can descend those 10 steps and as
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you descend those 10 steps, you can go even deeper with each
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one. As I countdown from 12:50,
37:36
continuing to focus on your breathing and my voice, going
37:39
deeper and deeper with each breath as you descend this
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beautiful staircase, counting down, going deeper on each step,
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10, 987, 654321, very deep, going to that very deep level.
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Now. That's right.
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And now that you have achieved this deep level of trance and
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relaxation and hypnosis that feels so good, so wonderful, so
38:39
relaxing, just this comforting feeling all over your body, you
38:47
can know that there are different parts of you that
38:51
serve a purpose in your life. Each part is important, has good
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intentions. And once always.
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What's the best for you? And somewhere deep inside of
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you, perhaps you already know what it is, perhaps not.
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But you can discover there is a part of you that is very
39:20
powerful, that makes you a strong willed person, one that
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gives you tremendous amounts of self trust.
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And this is the one, the part of you that brings out that part of
39:43
you that brings you the most strength.
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And it can go by many names. It could be a Wonder Woman, or
39:55
perhaps another superhero like Iron Man.
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That part can go by many different names.
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Take a moment to find. If you.
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Haven't already find that very special part of you, that
40:15
empowering part of you that gives you all of the inner
40:18
strength that you need to carry on in your life, to advocate for
40:27
yourself. Because this is your life and
40:33
this part of you gives you what you need to assert yourself, to
40:38
protect your boundaries because boundaries are important.
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This is a very important resource for you and fully
40:47
embrace that part of you. You can even.
40:51
Reach out with your own arms if you want to or not, that's OK
40:55
too. Just really embrace that part of
40:59
you and you can know that that part will always be with you and
41:06
can come to the executive anytime you need it to, when you
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need it most. And you can establish a line
41:16
between that and your inner wisdom, or your highest wisdom,
41:22
whatever it wants to call itself.
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Go ahead and take a moment to establish a Direct Line of
41:28
communication between that strongest part of you and your
41:32
highest wisdom to give you all the power and ability you need
41:37
to call that forth anytime you need it, to make it as strong as
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it can possibly be. And when you feel that you have
41:53
made these lines of communication as strong as they
41:57
can possibly be, when the work is done, and only when it's
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done, you can come back to the room at his pace that is right
42:25
for you. That.
42:42
Was a good experience there, Kevin.
42:44
I like that you're. Very welcome.
42:48
So is there anything that you would contextualize that or what
42:53
what people should kind of expect or interpret from that
42:56
session? Well, this is about everyone has
43:00
that inner part of them. That is each each part plays a
43:04
role. And it's important to embrace
43:07
that part of us that really serves that role of inner
43:10
strength that allows us to create boundaries, protect those
43:15
boundaries, assert themselves, really empower.
43:18
Themselves. And using that time to really
43:25
establish that deep connection with our highest wisdom by
43:32
establishing a Direct Line of communication between those. 2.
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It can be a very. Powerful tool to really.
43:44
Have an impact on one's unconscious mind and when they
43:49
make that connection in their unconscious mind, their
43:52
conscious mind will become aware of that in the hours, days and
43:57
weeks ahead The true. Impact of those changes.
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I think a lot of people have had that experience even outside of
44:05
hypnosis. They feel aligned with their
44:07
intuition and they seem to kind of trust that kind of judgement
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or they're second guessing every single part of their life.
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And I think that part for me is, is the kind of the the wisest
44:16
part of the intuition. It's kind of learnt you all of
44:19
your experiences can guide you in a in a positive direction.
44:23
Kevin, thank you so much for that.
44:24
We're going to make sure that the link to your website is, is
44:28
in the description in the show notes.
44:30
Is there anything that you're working on in the future that
44:34
you want to kind of sow a few seeds for people to expect,
44:38
maybe see you at any kind of upcoming conferences or
44:40
anything? Yes, I will actually be at
44:44
hypnothoughts in about a month from now in July.
44:48
Looking forward to it. As far as future projects, I am
44:53
currently working on making some recordings.
44:56
I'm also have a possibility of producing A ebook about some of
45:02
the issues that we've discussed today, and I'm also exploring
45:07
different tools to work with clients, particularly those
45:11
working with sexual issues or need a coaching on some of the
45:15
issues that they would like to work on.
45:17
Or would like. To further enrich their lives
45:22
both in and out of the bedroom. And one of the things that I
45:29
have learned in my journey is, and I'm going to clean this up a
45:34
little bit, Melissa Tears says it's all effing made-up.
45:39
And when I first heard that, that really resonates with me.
45:42
It throws open the doors to be as creative as we want to be as
45:48
practitioners. And some of the things that I've
45:51
learned in this industry are relatively new, being very
45:55
creative with the tools that are out there to put things together
45:59
and make it our own and use what we have created to make our mark
46:06
in our industry. I, I couldn't agree more.
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And I think, you know, I've, I've published close to over
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1000 kind of hypnosis sessions now, maybe maybe 1500.
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And I came to the conclusion that it's just using the power
46:20
of the imagination to create positive change, you know,
46:23
because when you try and put too many labels about what hypnosis
46:26
is and those kind of things, it's it's a whole rabbit hole
46:29
of, you know, but I disagree. And is it a trance?
46:31
Is it not a trance actually, You know, every human has an
46:34
imagination. And sometimes that imagination
46:38
can be used to create a new belief or a new way of thinking
46:40
that, you know, completely changes any, anything.
46:42
And use the word survivor before and I, and I think it's the
46:46
ultimate reframe and something bad happens.
46:48
It's kind of like, you know, you can be the victim or you can be
46:50
the survivor. It can break you or it can, you
46:53
know, facilitate you in, in, in some way to, you know, become
46:57
wiser and even stronger than ever before.
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And I think, yeah, utilising all this stuff to help people is, is
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the is the core common denominator.
47:05
Kevin, thank you so much for joining me as a guest hypnotist
47:07
today. Your hypnosis session was great.
47:09
And I, for one, will see you at Hypno Thoughts.
47:12
If you're listening, by the way, and you feel like coming to
47:15
Vegas to, to see me to see Kevin, we're both going to be
47:18
there at Hypno Thoughts Live in Vegas.
47:20
I'm also going to put a link in the description so you can get
47:24
tickets to Hypno Thoughts Live as well.
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Kevin, thank you once more. Thank you, Adam, it was a
47:29
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