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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
- 0:03Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.
- 0:08Speaker 1: A joy to be back with you this week. Unfortunately
- 0:11Speaker 1: Ben had to take the week off he's on a trip,
- 0:14Speaker 1: so I have maybe the greatest co host filling in
- 0:17Speaker 1: for him I could possibly ask for. It is Lauren Siema,
- 0:21Speaker 1: who you know as an entertainment correspondent from Entertainment Tonight.
- 0:24Speaker 1: She has she hosts in produces the most popular segment
- 0:28Speaker 1: I think on their YouTube, Roses and Rose and Roses
- 0:32Speaker 1: and Rose airs on broadcast TV and YouTube. By the way,
- 0:36Speaker 1: so Lauren interviews so many celebrities a list, but her specialty,
- 0:43Speaker 1: her real niche is when it comes to past, present
- 0:46Speaker 1: and future contestants on the Bachelor franchise. And we must
- 0:49Speaker 1: note that she's also Chris Harrison's girlfriend of two and
- 0:53Speaker 1: a half years. Everyone welcome Lauren Zeema, my friend. So
- 0:58Speaker 1: glad you're oh Miss Ashley I Canetti icon, beloved Bachelor
- 1:04Speaker 1: industry veteran, also media maybe and I just feel like
- 1:08Speaker 1: I need to give you some pops back after what
- 1:10Speaker 1: was just the best intro I've ever gotten. Thank you
- 1:13Speaker 1: so much. I couldn't be happy to be here. I
- 1:16Speaker 1: feel like so lucky because I've never been on you
- 1:19Speaker 1: and Ben's amazing podcast before, and now I get to
- 1:21Speaker 1: come in and guest co host with you. This is
- 1:23Speaker 1: a dream and I'm not I recognize that today that
- 1:27Speaker 1: you had never been on this podcast, and I was like,
- 1:29Speaker 1: that's so weird because we've talked to Chris multiple times
- 1:32Speaker 1: about you, but you are one of my favorite people
- 1:34Speaker 1: to watch recap. You are honest, but never in a
- 1:38Speaker 1: mean way. So I love I love how tasteful you're
- 1:42Speaker 1: able to make fun of the show. Well, thank you.
- 1:45Speaker 1: That's what I always think, right, I'm not a hate watcher.
- 1:50Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like the core of all
- 1:54Speaker 1: the recapping interviewing we all do is like we love
- 1:56Speaker 1: the show, right, Like, I don't understand there's some people
- 1:58Speaker 1: who I feel like just want to totally hang on it,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and I sort of think, well, then why are you
- 2:03Speaker 1: watching the show? Um? Like, the best thing to me
- 2:06Speaker 1: is to have fun with it, but not make mean
- 2:10Speaker 1: fun of it. So thank you for saying that, that's
- 2:12Speaker 1: the tone that I tried to strike. I completely agree. Okay,
- 2:14Speaker 1: So I want to jump into the Bachelorette recap right now.
- 2:19Speaker 1: We heard from you fans that you guys want to
- 2:21Speaker 1: recap above headline, So that's what we're going to do
- 2:24Speaker 1: from now on. Let's start with the first scene. It's
- 2:27Speaker 1: the cliffhanger resuming. We have Bennett versus Noah. Who were
- 2:31Speaker 1: you rooting for during this, Lauren, Oh my gosh. Well,
- 2:36Speaker 1: I had loved Bennett pretty much the whole sport. Yes,
- 2:42Speaker 1: I was a big fan, you know, to be the
- 2:44Speaker 1: big Bennett fan. And then I had turned on him
- 2:49Speaker 1: this last episode because I felt like he was just
- 2:52Speaker 1: getting a little too harsh with Noah. And then it
- 2:55Speaker 1: wasn't coming from like a grounded place. I didn't understand
- 3:00Speaker 1: what the real issues with Noah were, and I did
- 3:03Speaker 1: not think it was coming from a helpful place Bennett.
- 3:05Speaker 1: So let's take the spa water drink a little more
- 3:08Speaker 1: and make sure we're making good choices. Um So, But
- 3:11Speaker 1: in this moment, I'll be honest, I just was thinking
- 3:14Speaker 1: to send them both home. I don't think was going
- 3:17Speaker 1: to happen. Is that what you predicted? What? What? What
- 3:20Speaker 1: did you want to happen? Well, I thought that was
- 3:23Speaker 1: gonna happen. I thought that would probably be like the
- 3:25Speaker 1: smartest decision. However, I do feel like she has a
- 3:28Speaker 1: connect with Noah. We've had good moments with Noah, especially
- 3:32Speaker 1: in that mustache shaving episode. I haven't really felt any
- 3:37Speaker 1: chemistry with her and Bennett. I think Bennett has been
- 3:40Speaker 1: great TV, super entertaining for us, has had glimmers of
- 3:43Speaker 1: coming out of his shell slash character sture, but has
- 3:47Speaker 1: never really gotten there. And you're right, the character got
- 3:49Speaker 1: a little old in the past week or so because
- 3:52Speaker 1: it was all funny until we realized we're like, wait,
- 3:56Speaker 1: I think he's funny because he's so self aware. Oh wait, ship,
- 4:00Speaker 1: is he not civilware at all? It's the old school
- 4:03Speaker 1: phrase Bennett jumped the shark. I think he went far now.
- 4:06Speaker 1: All that being said, I still hope and pray to
- 4:08Speaker 1: see him, you know, hopefully if things don't work out
- 4:11Speaker 1: with Tasha, which I don't predict. There's any obviously coming
- 4:17Speaker 1: back from here, but I do hope to see him
- 4:20Speaker 1: in Paradise. I I think with Tasia, you can really
- 4:25Speaker 1: see that she like I felt like she was cringing
- 4:29Speaker 1: a little bit every time Bennett went in for a kiss.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I agree that this is not there. And then with Noah,
- 4:34Speaker 1: I feel the physical chemistry is more there, but the
- 4:37Speaker 1: emotional wasn't. So that's why I thought send them both home.
- 4:40Speaker 1: But I think the thing about Tassia is and probably
- 4:43Speaker 1: why we're seeing these guys seem to fall so hard
- 4:46Speaker 1: for her, is that she's just great to be around.
- 4:50Speaker 1: So it's almost I don't know. I was reminded a
- 4:53Speaker 1: bit of both of them, actually with both of them,
- 4:55Speaker 1: of watching Tasha with j p J. Like I kind
- 4:59Speaker 1: of agree, you know, like like you knew that she
- 5:02Speaker 1: thought he was funny, and then maybe she thought he
- 5:04Speaker 1: was cute, but you didn't sense a long term Noah.
- 5:07Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of that. Yeah, yeah, and
- 5:10Speaker 1: and like Bennett too, but in a different way. And
- 5:12Speaker 1: I do think Tasia is also kind of so nice
- 5:14Speaker 1: that she would give someone maybe more chances than they
- 5:18Speaker 1: might deserve. Like I'm not saying she doesn't, like she
- 5:20Speaker 1: tells people how she feels, but she's she also is like,
- 5:23Speaker 1: I'll give you a second chance, you know, like when
- 5:26Speaker 1: she told Noah, and the thing is, once she told
- 5:29Speaker 1: Noah you're gonna stick around for the Rose ceremony, was
- 5:31Speaker 1: sort of thinking, well, she can't send him home. Then
- 5:33Speaker 1: I know that was a dead giveaway to us that
- 5:36Speaker 1: that he was going to stick around. And then when
- 5:39Speaker 1: you kind of looked at the other guys to be
- 5:42Speaker 1: sent home, you're like, Okay, I guess if I compare
- 5:44Speaker 1: the chemistry between her and Noah and like her and
- 5:48Speaker 1: demor Ed, I understand now. Now what I thought was
- 5:53Speaker 1: wacky was the fact that Blake stuck around. But we
- 5:57Speaker 1: could talk about that later. Oh my god, why did
- 6:00Speaker 1: I just blank on her? Blake? Blake on Blake. He's
- 6:03Speaker 1: the one that has the beard all around his jaw.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Oh my god, Blake. We're still in this place sometimes
- 6:12Speaker 1: where I do feel we're getting to know these guys better,
- 6:15Speaker 1: but yeah, there are some episodes where we're still like
- 6:17Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of like, oh my gosh, I
- 6:20Speaker 1: forgot Blake still here. That means Blake shouldn't be here.
- 6:22Speaker 1: If by this point I was exactly it was bizarre.
- 6:24Speaker 1: And then we saw spendserly before him too, and we
- 6:27Speaker 1: know that they had an early connection, but that didn't
- 6:29Speaker 1: really develop. But anyway, let's we'll talk about the Rostromer
- 6:31Speaker 1: and a second, I do want to talk about how Tasha,
- 6:33Speaker 1: you know, pulls Bennet aside. She says, that she feels
- 6:36Speaker 1: like she's in a hard place. She asked Bennett if, like,
- 6:39Speaker 1: if he's questioning her integrity, She's so articulate in these moments.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I wish I was you. And then
- 6:44Speaker 1: she says that she doesn't that he doesn't have the
- 6:46Speaker 1: right to tell anyone who she's going to end up with,
- 6:50Speaker 1: that she's gonna end up like, you know, because he
- 6:51Speaker 1: said there was zero percent chance of Noah ending up
- 6:54Speaker 1: with her in the end. So she's like, you don't
- 6:56Speaker 1: have the right to say that. But it apologizes, but
- 6:59Speaker 1: then she says that there's just like too much drama
- 7:02Speaker 1: around him that she feels like he's condescending. You know,
- 7:05Speaker 1: there's that oh my god cringe alert when he starts
- 7:08Speaker 1: talking about the four components of e Q emotional intelligence.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Can we get him and Taylor Nolan together? Um, I
- 7:16Speaker 1: don't want anybody to quote Bennett on that. Nothing about
- 7:19Speaker 1: that felt emotional intelligent, emotionally intelligent. No I was like,
- 7:24Speaker 1: I don't know where he got this from. If he's
- 7:25Speaker 1: trying to quote that book he has, I don't think
- 7:27Speaker 1: he's doing it right. Kids, do not turn to this
- 7:30Speaker 1: moment on the mature for your accurate information on emotional
- 7:33Speaker 1: intelligence and maturity. I also felt like, how did you
- 7:38Speaker 1: feel about the criticism of Noah period? Like I think
- 7:43Speaker 1: in this episode Noah said something like age doesn't mean maturity,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and I totally agree. And I'm not sitting here singing
- 7:49Speaker 1: Noah's praises, But do you think he's as immature as
- 7:51Speaker 1: Bennett is acting? Like, you know, we're weeks beyond wherever
- 7:57Speaker 1: that moment that Bettett started name calling him immature and
- 8:01Speaker 1: I can't even remember what did it even branch from?
- 8:05Speaker 1: That's my thing. I have felt like with this fight,
- 8:07Speaker 1: I don't even know what it's about. And I kind
- 8:09Speaker 1: of felt that way also with like the Chase and
- 8:11Speaker 1: an ed fight. Of course, I don't know if we're
- 8:14Speaker 1: missing some plot points, but I didn't understand Lauren. I
- 8:18Speaker 1: really think that they had no drama, Like I think
- 8:21Speaker 1: these guys got along really well. I think that Tasia
- 8:24Speaker 1: wasn't creating any drama bout making like questionable decisions like
- 8:29Speaker 1: we saw with Peter last season, And I just think
- 8:31Speaker 1: that there wasn't and they were just kind of like
- 8:33Speaker 1: pulling at straws in any little tension they really exploited.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I mean, look, I think
- 8:46Speaker 1: that I think what we are missing is like the
- 8:48Speaker 1: playful drama. We're getting a lot of really real reveals
- 8:53Speaker 1: and there were even more in this episode from Ben,
- 8:55Speaker 1: but like people talking about really real issues, and I
- 8:58Speaker 1: think that's so powerful to share on t V and
- 9:00Speaker 1: to normalize for people watching at home. And it seems
- 9:04Speaker 1: silly next to those conversations to have drama that seems
- 9:08Speaker 1: to have no substance. It does, but I think it's
- 9:12Speaker 1: between a rock and a hard place because also, at
- 9:14Speaker 1: the same time, what's the show we know and love?
- 9:17Speaker 1: It's The Bachelor and The Bachelor, you know. I I
- 9:19Speaker 1: love when the show will give you, um, give the
- 9:22Speaker 1: viewers a a moment that makes them think because it's
- 9:26Speaker 1: given to them in this like digested way where we're
- 9:29Speaker 1: watching this you know, silly reality show and then oh wait,
- 9:32Speaker 1: we've kind of like reflected for a minute and had
- 9:33Speaker 1: our eyes open to something. But at the same time,
- 9:37Speaker 1: we love the silly reality show, so I understand why
- 9:40Speaker 1: there It's like, we've got to give people something, you
- 9:43Speaker 1: know what I meant, it would be weird if we
- 9:46Speaker 1: didn't have any sort of arguments. I feel like we've
- 9:50Speaker 1: gone from I keep saying this from one extreme to
- 9:51Speaker 1: the other. Claren Dale was like the most insane drama ever,
- 9:55Speaker 1: edge of my seat, like what is happening? And then
- 9:57Speaker 1: now we've gone to like the most real stuff. And
- 10:00Speaker 1: yet I will be honest, I'm missing Claren Dale. I do.
- 10:05Speaker 1: I don't miss that section of the season at all.
- 10:08Speaker 1: I live for tetatious side and it's so funny because
- 10:11Speaker 1: I really, Oh, I'm like soaking in these episodes. That's
- 10:18Speaker 1: so interesting. Okay, well, let's get back to Noah and
- 10:21Speaker 1: Tatia's little one on one sash. She says that she's
- 10:24Speaker 1: confused because there's been like so much drama surrounding Noah
- 10:27Speaker 1: now and he hates the fact that he's the center
- 10:29Speaker 1: of drama, which, of course everyone says that who's ever been, like, oh,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I love being a center of drama. And then Noah
- 10:36Speaker 1: um talks about how Bennett was talking down to people
- 10:40Speaker 1: the gift that was so condescending. Um, he gets a
- 10:44Speaker 1: little emotional and like he says that he wants Tia
- 10:49Speaker 1: to make her own decisions. She ends up deciding that
- 10:51Speaker 1: Bennett is the one that's going to go. She sends
- 10:54Speaker 1: him home. He's like shocked, which I don't know how
- 10:57Speaker 1: he's shocked. And then she comes and don't you love
- 11:01Speaker 1: this moment when she goes, don't you be smiling like
- 11:04Speaker 1: you're in the clear? Look Tasha is. She does that
- 11:12Speaker 1: standards with all of these men, like standards that they
- 11:14Speaker 1: need to meet in her conversations with them, which I
- 11:17Speaker 1: love seeing. And I thought ben It's exit was good.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I'll give him that. He's like, I'm so sorry if
- 11:22Speaker 1: that came across that way. He did have a mature
- 11:24Speaker 1: moment of just owning anything. And I might have also
- 11:27Speaker 1: missed this, but I didn't really sense that he was
- 11:29Speaker 1: questioning Tasia's integrity. I did understand where she was coming
- 11:32Speaker 1: from that she was saying, you know, you don't like
- 11:35Speaker 1: make the decisions for you. But I thought Bennett gave
- 11:38Speaker 1: a solid exit. He he apologized, and uh Noah seemed
- 11:42Speaker 1: to be just totally befuddled on how he arrived in
- 11:44Speaker 1: his current state. I know, right, I know, but it
- 11:48Speaker 1: was it was funny. I love. I just love the
- 11:51Speaker 1: way she said that. He was like, oh, oh, okay,
- 11:54Speaker 1: I know, well, you know what we're talking about, Bennett.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Let's fast forward to the end of the episode because
- 11:58Speaker 1: it does kind of can tinue this storyline. Bennett comes back,
- 12:03Speaker 1: and I was like, mind boggled. First off, do you
- 12:06Speaker 1: remember a couple of weeks ago when there were rumors
- 12:08Speaker 1: that her husband was going to make an appearance on
- 12:11Speaker 1: this season? There was like TikTok's floating around that his
- 12:14Speaker 1: voice the subtitle. Yeah, so I thought she was going
- 12:17Speaker 1: to open that fence door or whatever that was and
- 12:19Speaker 1: see her husband there, But then it was Bennett. So
- 12:21Speaker 1: I was shocked for multiple reasons. And then it just
- 12:25Speaker 1: unfolds to be like the weirdest thing that I've seen
- 12:27Speaker 1: Tassia do in the past couple of weeks, or like
- 12:30Speaker 1: the most questionable because one we we never really felt
- 12:33Speaker 1: chemistry between her and Bennett, but now she's believing that
- 12:37Speaker 1: he loves her, and she's even considering bringing him back,
- 12:43Speaker 1: And especially at a week where she's deciding who her
- 12:46Speaker 1: top four hometown dates are going to be, what do
- 12:51Speaker 1: you feel like was behind this decision? I think I
- 12:53Speaker 1: go back to what I said before, where it just
- 12:54Speaker 1: seems like Tassia is a nice, second chance giving person
- 12:59Speaker 1: and I sort of wonder if she just was too
- 13:01Speaker 1: kind too in the moment tell someone who just said
- 13:04Speaker 1: I love you no goodbye? Um. Maybe or maybe we
- 13:10Speaker 1: are missing something huge from his storyline. Maybe I don't
- 13:15Speaker 1: like to bring up edit, but perhaps there's more chemistry,
- 13:19Speaker 1: They're more connection that we're not seeing. And because he's
- 13:21Speaker 1: such a caricature that it's like just funnier and more
- 13:26Speaker 1: polarizing to keep him looking like a caricature without any emotion.
- 13:30Speaker 1: It's the only thing that I can come up with.
- 13:33Speaker 1: If this was like a couple of weeks ago and
- 13:35Speaker 1: she was going to let him join like the ten
- 13:38Speaker 1: remaining men, sure, but the week that she's trying to
- 13:41Speaker 1: limit it down to four just seems bizarre. She also
- 13:44Speaker 1: says she's like, I was planning on giving you that rose,
- 13:48Speaker 1: so she was planning on him being in her top
- 13:51Speaker 1: how many you left? Six or seven? Interesting? I know
- 13:55Speaker 1: that was interesting for her to hear her say she
- 13:57Speaker 1: didn't she wasn't gonna send him home that night. But
- 14:02Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I wonder about do you ever like
- 14:07Speaker 1: date someone for a while because it seems like it
- 14:09Speaker 1: should work, and you know, ultimately you have to face that,
- 14:14Speaker 1: like as much as this person on paper seems great,
- 14:17Speaker 1: like it's just not there, you know, Yeah, yeah, I
- 14:20Speaker 1: get it. I'm like, maybe that's it with Bennett. He's
- 14:25Speaker 1: this guy who's mid thirties. Obviously it's a great education,
- 14:29Speaker 1: so he must be smart. Even though you know what,
- 14:31Speaker 1: I never got to ask you about this. He really
- 14:33Speaker 1: get all those answers wrong on you and Jared's school date.
- 14:36Speaker 1: So he must have been getting the same amount of
- 14:39Speaker 1: questions wrong as the other guys for not to stand
- 14:42Speaker 1: out to us. And we just saw the questions and
- 14:45Speaker 1: answers that he got wrong. I'm like, how is Boo
- 14:48Speaker 1: getting this wrong? He went to Hart and I just
- 14:50Speaker 1: don't believe it. I had very major skep uh skepticism,
- 14:55Speaker 1: But I you know, he's so, he's educated, he's uh,
- 15:00Speaker 1: you know, he dressed as well, he's handsome, he's kind.
- 15:03Speaker 1: He he does respond at li Cetasia prettymaturely, except for
- 15:06Speaker 1: this Noah thing. And I sort of wonder if he's
- 15:08Speaker 1: a guy, like is she and has she kept him
- 15:11Speaker 1: around thinking this guy seems great and yet she really
- 15:16Speaker 1: knows the connection isn't there somewhere, you know? And is
- 15:19Speaker 1: she wondering if it will develop, if the spark will come,
- 15:21Speaker 1: if she just gives it more time. No, I don't
- 15:24Speaker 1: think so Okay, well you think there's a big piece
- 15:29Speaker 1: missing in their relationship that we haven't seen on the show.
- 15:32Speaker 1: It's the only excuse because if we were to go
- 15:34Speaker 1: with the theory that you just gave, which is a
- 15:35Speaker 1: great theory, but like, look at what she did last
- 15:38Speaker 1: week with Easy. She was having a great time with Easy.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Easy was creating no drama. Um, but then the second
- 15:44Speaker 1: he said I love you, she was like goodbye. Yeah.
- 15:49Speaker 1: But I don't know, I hadn't. I felt like I
- 15:53Speaker 1: hadn't seen her an Easy talk that much. I've seen
- 15:55Speaker 1: Bennett more like, you know, promise things he was going
- 15:58Speaker 1: to give to her, like that for proposal he gave
- 16:01Speaker 1: her on that scab that was one of his glimmers. Yes,
- 16:04Speaker 1: So I felt like I'd seen more from Bennett and
- 16:07Speaker 1: between her and Bennett then with Easy and her Easy said.
- 16:10Speaker 1: When Easy said that to me, I felt like, where's
- 16:12Speaker 1: this even coming from? This? Honestly, I felt like, even
- 16:15Speaker 1: though I loved watching Easy, I felt as though he
- 16:17Speaker 1: was just saying that because he thought that's what you
- 16:19Speaker 1: say on this show. That's what I thought that Bennett
- 16:21Speaker 1: was doing when he came back. No, Bennett, I think
- 16:25Speaker 1: is caught up. I believe Bennett kind of okay, So
- 16:29Speaker 1: that's where I wanted to go from here. I think
- 16:32Speaker 1: that he's a harvard Man, handsome Harvard man, has a
- 16:36Speaker 1: great job. I feel like women are probably after him
- 16:38Speaker 1: all the time, even though he doesn't seem to have
- 16:40Speaker 1: his emotional intelligence like down so well um, and then
- 16:44Speaker 1: this woman so stunning, so smart herself denies him and
- 16:49Speaker 1: picks like other men over him. I feel like he's
- 16:52Speaker 1: having this like shook moment and he's falling in love
- 16:56Speaker 1: in that way that like you can't have the you
- 16:59Speaker 1: can't well, you can't have Yeah, we all want we can.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I was the oldest brick in the book. Yeah, exactly.
- 17:05Speaker 1: That's how I'm married today. I believe in I think
- 17:12Speaker 1: you gotta play a little game in the beginning to
- 17:14Speaker 1: you know, keep people on their toes. That's what you
- 17:16Speaker 1: gotta do. I will say some of the stuff that
- 17:19Speaker 1: Bennett said when he returned. I had seen a lot
- 17:22Speaker 1: of people compare Bennett to a Christian Bale's American psycho character.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I don't want to my own horn, but I do
- 17:29Speaker 1: believe I was one of the first people to say
- 17:30Speaker 1: that publicly, and I'm like, guys, the non violent kind.
- 17:34Speaker 1: It doesn't want to make sure right, just again the
- 17:37Speaker 1: caricature for the first time. It was just like the
- 17:40Speaker 1: way he was talking when he came back, and some
- 17:42Speaker 1: of the things he was saying, like in this tone
- 17:45Speaker 1: he was coming in. I mean, I was laughing. It
- 17:47Speaker 1: was great TV. He's coming in. He's like, can I
- 17:50Speaker 1: come in? Oh, it smells amazing in here. I'm so
- 17:53Speaker 1: happy to see you. I was like, what, I know.
- 17:58Speaker 1: I know he's a wild one. He is somebody that
- 18:02Speaker 1: we've never seen on this show before. Uh, and we'll
- 18:06Speaker 1: see how his storyline ends. I cannot imagine her keeping
- 18:10Speaker 1: him around. No, there's no way, right, no way. Well,
- 18:14Speaker 1: we see in the promo that he's wearing a suit
- 18:17Speaker 1: and talk to the other guys. So I'm like, he
- 18:18Speaker 1: makes it back in some way. You're right, he does
- 18:21Speaker 1: make it back into the group. You Know what's interesting
- 18:23Speaker 1: is as we lead into hometowns, I think about the
- 18:27Speaker 1: hometown is not really being hometowns but more like family
- 18:29Speaker 1: week and these families they've got to be quarantining already.
- 18:34Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, right because back at liquina. We had
- 18:38Speaker 1: to quarantine for five days before maybe it was four nights,
- 18:44Speaker 1: two tests, always to tests before we went into you know,
- 18:48Speaker 1: public spaces. So I'm thinking, Um, these families are probably
- 18:54Speaker 1: already quarantining and they're gonna have to send some of
- 18:56Speaker 1: them back without even making it on the show. Oh painful. Well,
- 19:01Speaker 1: sorry Mom, Sorry Dad. I know it's so confusing. I
- 19:03Speaker 1: get that we have to keep calling at hometowns because
- 19:06Speaker 1: that's the show, but I want to call it like
- 19:08Speaker 1: family staycations or like family vaca, because nobody's going to
- 19:12Speaker 1: their hometown. You know, we're all at the liking Duck.
- 19:16Speaker 1: I'm very interested to know if they've brought parents and
- 19:19Speaker 1: siblings and stuff, or if it's like do they just
- 19:22Speaker 1: bring parents in? If they bring in more than parents
- 19:25Speaker 1: and siblings, did they get the family like a little
- 19:26Speaker 1: house or are they in different rooms? Like I have
- 19:28Speaker 1: a lot of logistics questions. I'm very excited to see.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I also will say I don't think Bennett's going to
- 19:35Speaker 1: make it to his family being met on the show,
- 19:36Speaker 1: but I really want to meet Bennett's family. I want
- 19:39Speaker 1: to see where this kid came from. Oh my god,
- 19:44Speaker 1: you can you imagine how amazing that would be. What
- 19:47Speaker 1: if his family is just super normal? Right? I think
- 19:50Speaker 1: he said on the really revealing our date. I think
- 19:53Speaker 1: he said he didn't grow up in privilege, because that
- 19:55Speaker 1: was that moment where Noah like through the word privilege
- 19:57Speaker 1: at him and by the way, spelled it wrong. Um,
- 20:00Speaker 1: but I will so I want to see. I have
- 20:02Speaker 1: like a lot of questions I taught when I interviewed
- 20:05Speaker 1: um Dr Joseph Park are wonderful doctor who was I
- 20:08Speaker 1: thought sent home too soon? I asked him, are Bennett's
- 20:11Speaker 1: closed for real? Like? Is that really? Like? You know,
- 20:14Speaker 1: it seems like he's so well dressed and expensive, And
- 20:16Speaker 1: Joe said Lauren his shoe collection, like one pair of
- 20:20Speaker 1: shoes costs more than like all the shoes I owned
- 20:23Speaker 1: put together. He was like, the cost of this man's
- 20:27Speaker 1: wardrobe was insane to me. So I'm like, where's this
- 20:30Speaker 1: coming from? Is it family money? Is it? He? Is
- 20:33Speaker 1: he incredibly successful? For real? Like? I have a lot
- 20:35Speaker 1: of questions. We gotta do some background research. Alright, we're
- 20:39Speaker 1: gonna take a break right now from this recap, which
- 20:43Speaker 1: is going fantastically, but we're gonna break. Then we're gonna
- 20:46Speaker 1: be a fan on for a fan question. They have
- 20:48Speaker 1: a couple of questions for you, I think Lauren, and yeah,
- 20:51Speaker 1: we'll be right right back after this. All right, we're back.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Let's get her caller on the line. It's a mystery
- 21:06Speaker 1: caller for me, it's just a fan, which is fun.
- 21:09Speaker 1: We do this on on occasion. It's been a while.
- 21:12Speaker 1: We usually did in the studio. Oh wow, hello caller. Um,
- 21:18Speaker 1: Hi nice, Sorry, uh long time listener, first time callers
- 21:23Speaker 1: love the show. Um, I actually I love you, Ashley.
- 21:27Speaker 1: I'm sorry Ben is not there. I have a question
- 21:29Speaker 1: for for Lauren Seema. She's had really public crushes this
- 21:33Speaker 1: season on a couple of the guys and Bennett and Joe,
- 21:36Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering are things okay at home with
- 21:39Speaker 1: her boyfriend Chris Harrison because we love him. Wow caller, Um,
- 21:45Speaker 1: caller whose name I don't know? Thank you for calling in, caller.
- 21:52Speaker 1: I mean I knew the second Okay, So wow, our
- 21:56Speaker 1: things okay at home with Chris Harrison and myself? Um?
- 22:00Speaker 1: Do I mean wow? Anything we're gonna get into this here? Um? Well,
- 22:02Speaker 1: you're just I mean, I I pay attention to your
- 22:04Speaker 1: social media. By the way, Elsie. You're fantastic. You do
- 22:07Speaker 1: such a great thing. Love Rosen Rose. But man, you
- 22:10Speaker 1: were really affectionate with with your love of Bennett and
- 22:13Speaker 1: public about Joe. And I'm just I'm worried about you
- 22:15Speaker 1: because I love you and Chris Harrison. Do you get
- 22:18Speaker 1: there right? You know? Can? I can? I ask you, caller,
- 22:20Speaker 1: what do you think Chris Harrison and I should stay together? Like?
- 22:23Speaker 1: What do you think should be next for us? Oh?
- 22:25Speaker 1: I would never be so presumptuous as to decide what
- 22:29Speaker 1: you guys should do. I just I'm just worried about you, guys,
- 22:31Speaker 1: because I love you so much. Okay, I was just
- 22:34Speaker 1: wondering if probably should like take any big next steps together.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I don't know, like maybe move in or anything. I
- 22:39Speaker 1: I always like to get the fans opinions and then
- 22:41Speaker 1: take everything they say very seriously. Um and by the way,
- 22:45Speaker 1: I don't mean to take up too much time. I'll
- 22:46Speaker 1: hang up and I'll take my answer off the air. Okay,
- 22:49Speaker 1: thanks Chris Harrison. Oh, but we really wanted to know
- 22:54Speaker 1: Billy Bob from Texas. Okay, well you know Billy Bob.
- 22:58Speaker 1: I will tell you my my Bennett and Joe. Uh
- 23:02Speaker 1: flirtations were were if they appeared that way. We're purely
- 23:06Speaker 1: as a fan, just loving them as good TV. Um. Actually,
- 23:10Speaker 1: when I interviewed Joe before the interview started, he said,
- 23:12Speaker 1: is this interview gonna make Chris Harrison mad? And I
- 23:14Speaker 1: was like, Wow, maybe I've gone too far, Maybe I
- 23:15Speaker 1: showed too much love for Joe. So you know, I apologize,
- 23:18Speaker 1: Billy Bob before you leave. I just have a quick question.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Do you think that there's like a conflict of interests
- 23:24Speaker 1: with Lauren Ziema dating Chris Harrison? Like, do you think
- 23:26Speaker 1: that she gives her all these behind the scenes uh
- 23:30Speaker 1: tidbits and she's able to conduct the greatest interviews because
- 23:34Speaker 1: of it? Well, actually, um, I don't know, um, because
- 23:38Speaker 1: you know, I'm not around them. I wish it would
- 23:40Speaker 1: be a dream come true to be near them. Um.
- 23:43Speaker 1: But sadly, I think it's the opposite that Chris is
- 23:47Speaker 1: so um behind the times and so not cool that
- 23:52Speaker 1: he actually learned more from Lauren about his own show
- 23:55Speaker 1: than he probably knows himself, which is really sad wellefully unaware. Yes,
- 24:00Speaker 1: you're right, Billy Bob. I don't how you knew that,
- 24:01Speaker 1: but you're right. I deliver it alright, Well, Billy, thank
- 24:06Speaker 1: you so much for calling in and uh by, ladies,
- 24:10Speaker 1: love you both, have a great day. You'll have fun
- 24:12Speaker 1: if you fine? Good? I love you, stranger. Wow, what
- 24:18Speaker 1: that really got me? I really didn't expect that. I
- 24:20Speaker 1: was so excited to talk to a fan. Not that
- 24:22Speaker 1: that was disappointing, but I mean, Chris Harrison's voice is unmistakable.
- 24:26Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Thank you for doing that. That's of course,
- 24:29Speaker 1: that was very fun. Now, I gotta know, does Chris
- 24:32Speaker 1: actually get jealous a little bit when you talk about
- 24:34Speaker 1: guys being hot, whether they're from the franchise or not,
- 24:37Speaker 1: because Jared doesn't love it. He says that because you know,
- 24:40Speaker 1: like all four of us really are public figures, it
- 24:44Speaker 1: would be too easy for us to meet and somehow
- 24:49Speaker 1: fall in love with our celebrity crushes, bachelor crushes anything
- 24:53Speaker 1: like that. Oh interesting. Um, he doesn't care at all
- 24:57Speaker 1: about when it comes to like bachelor stuff, you know,
- 24:59Speaker 1: because I think Chris's franchise doesn't like right, Like I've peeked,
- 25:06Speaker 1: like like why why why I go out for a
- 25:10Speaker 1: hamburger when you have steak at home? Um? I also
- 25:15Speaker 1: think it's like like, Chris is really great at man
- 25:19Speaker 1: crushing on people. You know, he's got more man crushes
- 25:22Speaker 1: than girl crushes. Oh my gosh. We literally I'm not
- 25:25Speaker 1: even joking you. The other day we were like, um
- 25:28Speaker 1: pulling our car into somewhere and this guy got out
- 25:30Speaker 1: of his car and uh, Chris goes literally goes, wow,
- 25:34Speaker 1: even I have a crush on that guy. I was like,
- 25:35Speaker 1: I didn't even notice that guy, what are you talking about? Like,
- 25:39Speaker 1: and you know he'll like, you know, throws up all
- 25:41Speaker 1: the love to uh Matt James and Matt james Is
- 25:44Speaker 1: and Tyler Cameron's of the franchise for their incredible fitness, Like, yeah,
- 25:49Speaker 1: I don't think he cares at all? Do I think
- 25:51Speaker 1: he gets so maybe about me interviewing. I interviewed Richard
- 25:54Speaker 1: Gear one time, and I really don't think that Chris
- 25:58Speaker 1: likes how much I bring that up is my face
- 26:00Speaker 1: interview ever, because Richard here was like one of my
- 26:02Speaker 1: childhood crushes. You know, you're a rom como woman and
- 26:05Speaker 1: all that. He doesn't look like pretty woman anymore, but
- 26:08Speaker 1: still the auras there fox now, yeah, I mean, and
- 26:11Speaker 1: he was just incredibly charming in the interview. And I
- 26:14Speaker 1: always cite that as my favorite interview, and I feel
- 26:16Speaker 1: like Chris is like, Okay, can we stop talking about that?
- 26:19Speaker 1: Why am I not your favorite interview? You know, sometimes
- 26:24Speaker 1: your your childhood crushes live up to you. I mean,
- 26:26Speaker 1: if they live up to what you want, how can
- 26:28Speaker 1: you go? How can you get better than that? I know?
- 26:32Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get back into the recap. I
- 26:35Speaker 1: do want to talk about your personal life a little
- 26:37Speaker 1: bit more later, but we'll do a whole little interview
- 26:40Speaker 1: with Lauren Zema or LZ as Billy Bob slash. Chris
- 26:44Speaker 1: Harrison just referred to her as Okay, so we're done
- 26:47Speaker 1: with Bennett, but now we're on to Ben and wow,
- 26:51Speaker 1: that was a heavy, deep date. Um so impressive. Um.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Let's let's start by saying that Ben has been the
- 27:04Speaker 1: object of Tasia's affections. I feel like for a while,
- 27:08Speaker 1: he has stood out to me for a long time,
- 27:10Speaker 1: but there was always something that she felt like she
- 27:13Speaker 1: couldn't get inside him. Yeah, deeply his brain, There's there's
- 27:19Speaker 1: something there. Right, last week we saw an evolution. I
- 27:22Speaker 1: still feel like the whole naked thing was a little
- 27:25Speaker 1: bit weird, but the fact that we learned about Bulimia
- 27:29Speaker 1: and his issues with that following the strip, and then
- 27:34Speaker 1: especially this week after knowing when he's gone through over
- 27:37Speaker 1: the past couple of years, you know, with those lows,
- 27:40Speaker 1: I think the strip makes a little bit more sense now,
- 27:43Speaker 1: just because like he couldn't be like, oh, you know
- 27:45Speaker 1: what I'm going to be I'm going to explain all
- 27:49Speaker 1: of that I've gone through in front of these men
- 27:51Speaker 1: with a piece of art. It's like, no, I'm going
- 27:54Speaker 1: to save this up for private time with her. What
- 27:57Speaker 1: were you thinking? Yeah, I mean when you look back
- 28:00Speaker 1: at that art date and like I think Brendan held
- 28:02Speaker 1: up an empty frame, Blake made a clay penis Like
- 28:08Speaker 1: it was like Ben could not get into his level
- 28:11Speaker 1: of stuff amongst that collection of works. Um, I was
- 28:17Speaker 1: so blown away when he said I could correct me
- 28:21Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but I think he said like his
- 28:23Speaker 1: family didn't even know that he had attempted suicide, but
- 28:25Speaker 1: he was s first person. So that was that made
- 28:31Speaker 1: me think that Ben does have so many layers to him.
- 28:34Speaker 1: And um, you know, I know he was in the
- 28:37Speaker 1: army and and then not anymore. And I think sometimes
- 28:39Speaker 1: when you've like so fully devoted your life to something
- 28:41Speaker 1: that it's out of your life. That's a huge transition.
- 28:43Speaker 1: It sounds like he's gone through so much. And I really,
- 28:48Speaker 1: you know, raised my glass to him for again normalizing
- 28:51Speaker 1: being open about some of these tough things on such
- 28:54Speaker 1: a huge platform. Um. I I was surprised when to
- 29:00Speaker 1: just said I feel like I'm not getting something out
- 29:02Speaker 1: of you, because in my mind I was thinking, oh
- 29:03Speaker 1: my gosh, but he just shared so much with you
- 29:05Speaker 1: last week. Maybe she meant like, I feel like there's
- 29:08Speaker 1: still more. Yeah, yeah. I I also applaud Taia for
- 29:13Speaker 1: how she responded to it. I just felt like it
- 29:15Speaker 1: was a really beautiful conversation because that's something where you know,
- 29:18Speaker 1: it is so important what you give back to somebody
- 29:22Speaker 1: when they've shared like that with you. And I thought
- 29:24Speaker 1: she handled it really well. Um yeah, I mean Ben
- 29:28Speaker 1: is he is somebody who I think she does have
- 29:32Speaker 1: unlike you know, maybe the Bennett. She is incredible physical
- 29:37Speaker 1: chemistry with him when he grabs her face and kisses her,
- 29:41Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking, one knowing they have that physical
- 29:43Speaker 1: chemistry and now they're connecting on these really deep reveals,
- 29:46Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, how how this is like an
- 29:49Speaker 1: unstoppable it's becoming an unstoppable connection. What what do you
- 29:53Speaker 1: think their future hole? I think really, yeah, do you not?
- 29:58Speaker 1: I feel like it goes down betwe him and Zach
- 30:00Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna win. Um, We're just seeing
- 30:04Speaker 1: too much goodness between the two of them. And yeah,
- 30:08Speaker 1: I just want to like just second when you said
- 30:11Speaker 1: like the power and that he Yeah, it was such
- 30:16Speaker 1: a powerful moment them having that conversation. It was something
- 30:19Speaker 1: that we truly have never seen on this show before.
- 30:20Speaker 1: We've had like some serious conversations, right, we had this,
- 30:23Speaker 1: We had the Black Lives Matter conversation with Ivan a
- 30:25Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, we had the drug addiction conversation
- 30:30Speaker 1: with Zach, Um with Kalin with the sexual abuse, and
- 30:33Speaker 1: now we have a conversation here about suicide and just
- 30:38Speaker 1: truly brave and powerful for him to be so open
- 30:42Speaker 1: and vulnerable with us, um and you know, it's just
- 30:45Speaker 1: something that we need to talk about. And I love
- 30:47Speaker 1: the fact that the show is having these open moments. Yeah.
- 30:53Speaker 1: I didn't shy away from it, especially for you know,
- 30:55Speaker 1: a man to open up about it. Get that's something
- 30:58Speaker 1: very people get into. Um. I man in terms of
- 31:03Speaker 1: Ben winning or who might uh be there at the end.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I will say she and Brendan had such a strong
- 31:10Speaker 1: first one on one, and you know, we haven't seen
- 31:13Speaker 1: him lately, and sometimes when I'm watching the show, there
- 31:15Speaker 1: will be somebody who has like that great one on
- 31:16Speaker 1: one in the beginning and then they kind of lay
- 31:18Speaker 1: low for a little while and then pop back up
- 31:20Speaker 1: at the end. And he'd been divorced too, so they
- 31:22Speaker 1: connected on that and I felt like she had great
- 31:25Speaker 1: chemistry with him. She is having such strong connections to
- 31:29Speaker 1: these guys because they've lived you know, these are older guys,
- 31:32Speaker 1: they want been through stuff, and they're opening up and
- 31:35Speaker 1: I think, my, I think something that's going to have
- 31:38Speaker 1: to happen from here is Like I also want to
- 31:41Speaker 1: see Tastia get into who she could really live a
- 31:44Speaker 1: real life with after the show, And I don't know
- 31:46Speaker 1: if we've gotten into that. I feel like we've seen
- 31:49Speaker 1: her have these guys open up and they're connecting, but like,
- 31:52Speaker 1: what does the future look like for them? Like, and
- 31:56Speaker 1: I don't totally know who she'd fit it's best yet
- 32:00Speaker 1: in that regard, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah,
- 32:03Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what Ben's actually I'm
- 32:06Speaker 1: forgetting where Ben's from. I don't know where he lives.
- 32:08Speaker 1: He lives in l A. He lives in Sa Monica.
- 32:12Speaker 1: So it's really close to her, okay, because she's a
- 32:15Speaker 1: calli girl and exacts all the way on the East
- 32:17Speaker 1: Coast that stopped Bachelor couples before. Um yeah, interesting, Okay.
- 32:24Speaker 1: I I don't see Ben going anywhere. I think at
- 32:27Speaker 1: this point they've shared so much and like I'm seeing
- 32:29Speaker 1: him sticking through hometowns for for sure. Okay, No, I
- 32:33Speaker 1: completely agree, but sticking to that Zach and Ben in
- 32:38Speaker 1: the end, So what else have we not talk? We
- 32:41Speaker 1: do need to talk about Riley In his serious conversation,
- 32:45Speaker 1: Riley was, Okay, it was so funny. I was watching
- 32:47Speaker 1: with my dad and once he got that question wrong
- 32:50Speaker 1: on the group date where they're doing the lie detector test.
- 32:56Speaker 1: My dad was like, there's a story behind that, and
- 32:58Speaker 1: I was like, really, you think up there, lo and
- 33:01Speaker 1: behold there it is. You know. He talks about how
- 33:03Speaker 1: his parents separated, how his dad end up at up
- 33:07Speaker 1: getting so custody, and he finds some things out about
- 33:10Speaker 1: his dad years later doesn't sit well with him. Now.
- 33:13Speaker 1: It seems like he went from being a strange to
- 33:15Speaker 1: his mom. Uh, to reconciling, and now I think that
- 33:18Speaker 1: maybe he's got some distance between him and his dad.
- 33:21Speaker 1: He ends up changing his name to his mom's mom's
- 33:25Speaker 1: maiden name or whatever name that she has currently. And uh,
- 33:29Speaker 1: we're just learning so much about these guys. You know what,
- 33:32Speaker 1: your dad had a better spiky sense or a bachelor
- 33:35Speaker 1: sense than I did. I just thought this LIE detector
- 33:39Speaker 1: test seems like the as I detector test. Dates you
- 33:45Speaker 1: don't I am just like, is this real? I don't know.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Isn't there something where like is Jojo monitoring this? Is
- 33:51Speaker 1: there's someone it's back room whose licensed to do this? Like?
- 33:54Speaker 1: What is the efficacy is someone? I just had questions
- 33:57Speaker 1: about the logistics, considering we had three eight bulbs red, green,
- 34:00Speaker 1: and yellow that we're blinking around with the answers, what
- 34:03Speaker 1: did the yellow ball? Bean? Was it a half lie?
- 34:05Speaker 1: I was so good and then I thought that it was.
- 34:10Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be a joke about like, Okay,
- 34:12Speaker 1: it wasn't really real because Riley said, I'm a lawyer,
- 34:15Speaker 1: LIE allowed my clients to use. Well, for anyone who
- 34:20Speaker 1: watches crime shows, we know that LIE detective results are
- 34:23Speaker 1: not admissible in courts, and it's because you know, yeah,
- 34:27Speaker 1: they can be a little wonky, or because that's because
- 34:31Speaker 1: it's just like well with Zach, you know, Zack forced
- 34:34Speaker 1: himself basically to say yes, he cheated because he knew,
- 34:37Speaker 1: like in his nerves, in his brain, the little time
- 34:41Speaker 1: where he made out as a sixth grader with a
- 34:43Speaker 1: girl that wasn't his girlfriend was gonna pop up. So
- 34:46Speaker 1: he was super honest. So that when Zack sat down,
- 34:49Speaker 1: he was looking at Tashia like I just heard a
- 34:51Speaker 1: sense of how into her he was in that moment.
- 34:52Speaker 1: I felt like he was staring at her like I
- 34:54Speaker 1: am not going to blow this. I'm doing this right,
- 34:57Speaker 1: especially considering he just cried in the middle the day
- 35:01Speaker 1: about how much he wanted taste, Like his parents seem happy, like,
- 35:07Speaker 1: oh my god, but we're not. We're not on the
- 35:10Speaker 1: bachelorrete anymore. We are like in a Lifetime movie and
- 35:13Speaker 1: we are working some stuff out. I am so emotionally
- 35:17Speaker 1: invested in Zach. I don't know why, Like I the
- 35:22Speaker 1: amount of attractive that that man has grown, the amount
- 35:27Speaker 1: of like, yeah, the amount that I'm attracted to him
- 35:31Speaker 1: in a platonic sense has grown so much. Dar come on,
- 35:38Speaker 1: because like just we've gotten to know his personality so well,
- 35:41Speaker 1: and I just love like his swag and just the
- 35:43Speaker 1: way that they look at each other. I know we
- 35:45Speaker 1: talked about this a lot last week to our our listeners,
- 35:48Speaker 1: but there's something about that guy really really like him
- 35:51Speaker 1: the way the Bachelor and the Bachelorette. What it confirms
- 35:54Speaker 1: for me is that for anybody, anywhere, an attractive person
- 35:57Speaker 1: can become less so if their personality sucks. And a
- 36:00Speaker 1: person who you might not have looked at a second time,
- 36:01Speaker 1: if they have a great personality. Well, I yes, So Riley,
- 36:08Speaker 1: Zack and Riley do the lie detector test. I had
- 36:10Speaker 1: my questions, but it's fine. It was fun. It was
- 36:13Speaker 1: a revealing exercise. Do you think that if you cheat
- 36:17Speaker 1: in the sixth grade, you're a cheater? No? No, but
- 36:23Speaker 1: I do think it would set a lie detector off.
- 36:25Speaker 1: So I think it was good that he admitted it.
- 36:29Speaker 1: I have to be honest. But do you think there
- 36:31Speaker 1: was something more? Do you think there was something more? No? Well,
- 36:34Speaker 1: Tassia said, and you can tell and I understand that.
- 36:37Speaker 1: You know, we all respond to like what's happened in
- 36:39Speaker 1: our past and we like that's the lens through which
- 36:41Speaker 1: we see. Tassia said once a cheater, always a cheater,
- 36:44Speaker 1: that she believes that. I don't believe that as a thing,
- 36:48Speaker 1: Like I, I don't know. It's kind of like xact
- 36:50Speaker 1: with the sixth grade thing. I'm just saying, who didn't
- 36:53Speaker 1: have a moment in high school or college where you
- 36:56Speaker 1: were like figuring stuff out? You know, I don't know.
- 36:58Speaker 1: I I it really depends on what the cheating is,
- 37:01Speaker 1: and I also and what the context of the relationship is.
- 37:04Speaker 1: I just don't look at it that way. Um, but
- 37:07Speaker 1: it was really really adorable that Zach owned up to
- 37:09Speaker 1: his sixth grade bolarama makeout. Yeah, I totally agree. And yeah,
- 37:14Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure about the cheater always
- 37:16Speaker 1: a cheater thing. It's something that my mom always said
- 37:18Speaker 1: growing up. Really yeah, but I don't know. I don't know.
- 37:22Speaker 1: I think it depends on your age and maturity level
- 37:24Speaker 1: as well, Like you could be a totally different person
- 37:25Speaker 1: at twenty then you are at thirty, and I don't
- 37:28Speaker 1: think that you're going to have the same behaviors in
- 37:30Speaker 1: a relationship. But anyway, we have to take a quick
- 37:33Speaker 1: break because we have a very special guest. We have
- 37:36Speaker 1: the performer that performed on last night's episode, and what
- 37:39Speaker 1: a gorgeous voice in song that he sang. We have
- 37:44Speaker 1: the artist Adam Hambroke coming on and he I think
- 37:47Speaker 1: he's going to perform for us right here. Oh my god,
- 37:50Speaker 1: we're getting serend a dream. I didn't expect this treat.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Yes Hi Adam, UM, thank you for being here. Welcome
- 38:08Speaker 1: to the Almost Fanas Podcast. Thanks for having me. This
- 38:11Speaker 1: is this is awesome. I'm gonna be straight up honest
- 38:14Speaker 1: with you. I was not aware of for you are
- 38:17Speaker 1: before that episode, but I went and I downloaded your
- 38:21Speaker 1: songs because you you've got a great voice. I'll it's
- 38:26Speaker 1: like a it's like a Richard Marks field that I
- 38:29Speaker 1: get with you, and our listeners know that I love
- 38:31Speaker 1: a Richard Marks I'll take that. That's high praise. Thank you.
- 38:36Speaker 1: So how was it being on the show performing on
- 38:38Speaker 1: the show. Um, just an intimate setting. UM, you know,
- 38:42Speaker 1: it's really cool. Uh, it's cool for a lot of reasons. Um. One,
- 38:45Speaker 1: it was really cool because my first time I'm ever
- 38:47Speaker 1: doing like TV, uh, like starting this artist track in
- 38:52Speaker 1: my career, Like I moved to Nashville to write songs,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and that was sort of the thing that kind of
- 38:56Speaker 1: got me started. And then um, you know, had some
- 38:59Speaker 1: success there and that was sort of thing that kind
- 39:01Speaker 1: of lauched me into like getting to make my own
- 39:03Speaker 1: music and my own records. But this is the first
- 39:05Speaker 1: time I've actually been able to take that to TV
- 39:08Speaker 1: and see how it translates. I was super nervous. Um,
- 39:13Speaker 1: but because I guess because like the quarantine bubble or whatever,
- 39:16Speaker 1: we got to go we got to like chill for
- 39:18Speaker 1: a couple of days and we had to be like
- 39:19Speaker 1: quarantine up and COVID test. Did you enjoy it? Did
- 39:22Speaker 1: you enjoy that quarantine? Because Jared and I did when
- 39:24Speaker 1: we were down at Laquinta. There are worse places to
- 39:27Speaker 1: be hold up. I'll tell you that exactly our thoughts.
- 39:32Speaker 1: It was kind of like it was a little like college.
- 39:34Speaker 1: I mean, we just we drank Coors Light and played
- 39:36Speaker 1: PlayStation for three days in my band. It was kind
- 39:39Speaker 1: of awesome. That's amazing. How did you feel the chemistry
- 39:43Speaker 1: between Ben and Tatia was just from the little you
- 39:46Speaker 1: got to see of their date, you know, I thought,
- 39:50Speaker 1: I mean they were just really into the evening. You'd
- 39:53Speaker 1: tell they were kind of like lost in each other
- 39:54Speaker 1: and and like whatever. And I've never like watched the show,
- 39:58Speaker 1: so this so be so stepping on to set that
- 40:01Speaker 1: was my first exposure to the show period, and uh,
- 40:04Speaker 1: I was just like these are real people who are
- 40:07Speaker 1: like really all about what's going on? Like this is
- 40:10Speaker 1: I have a completely superficial question for you. How I
- 40:13Speaker 1: know how gorgeous Tasia is in person? Like how incredibly
- 40:16Speaker 1: handsome has been in person? He looks like Captain America
- 40:19Speaker 1: to me? What I said to like that that dude,
- 40:23Speaker 1: Steve Rogers, that's Captain America right there. But yeah, like
- 40:29Speaker 1: super nice dude too. Like we talked for a little
- 40:31Speaker 1: bit afterwards. Um toxication. Of course, she's just like I
- 40:34Speaker 1: don't know, she's just like effervescing. You know, she's just
- 40:38Speaker 1: a good word. You know, that's the song in me?
- 40:44Speaker 1: How did you pick what song you're gonna sing for
- 40:46Speaker 1: a moment like that? Um? That was that was requested
- 40:50Speaker 1: by bys and everything. They you know, they because I
- 40:54Speaker 1: haven't put a ton of music out yet, so like
- 40:56Speaker 1: I'm still you as an artist and that's why you
- 40:58Speaker 1: hadn't heard um. But you know, so they kind of
- 41:02Speaker 1: like look through what was out and they're like, this
- 41:03Speaker 1: is we think this would be great. And the song
- 41:07Speaker 1: itself is the song I like wrote during covid um
- 41:10Speaker 1: what kind of comes from a place of songs called
- 41:13Speaker 1: Between Me and the End of the World. It's kind
- 41:14Speaker 1: of a love letter to umu to My wife is
- 41:17Speaker 1: a physician assistant and she's been treating people during this
- 41:22Speaker 1: whole thing, is like testing people for the virus. So
- 41:24Speaker 1: it's kind of been like us absolutely, I will um
- 41:28Speaker 1: and so like this song is kind of like a
- 41:31Speaker 1: love letter to people like that who step in kind
- 41:34Speaker 1: of when things go sideways and things go bad um
- 41:36Speaker 1: and so it was really specially get to play show.
- 41:38Speaker 1: That's amazing. It definitely seems fitting. Um. All right, so
- 41:41Speaker 1: I hear that you are down to play us a
- 41:44Speaker 1: little bit of a song of your choosing. Is it
- 41:47Speaker 1: going to be that one? Absolutely? Your your choices, you
- 41:50Speaker 1: want us to be that one? Yeah, whatever you want,
- 41:53Speaker 1: whatever you want to expose to all our listeners. I'll
- 41:58Speaker 1: play this is that song called Between Me and the
- 42:00Speaker 1: End of the World. It feels like the sky my
- 42:05Speaker 1: fall this time, oh man news it's too close to
- 42:10Speaker 1: home and the darkness dround and like ah, just who,
- 42:20Speaker 1: my God, find him on my side facing all the
- 42:24Speaker 1: Father Devil Canada. It's hell love thing watching you step
- 42:32Speaker 1: between between me and and who. You got such a voice,
- 42:46Speaker 1: Adam Hamburg. What a voice, just on the fly like that. Wow,
- 42:49Speaker 1: you are amazing. I just got emotional. Wow. I don't
- 42:54Speaker 1: know where can our listeners find you and download your music? Um?
- 42:59Speaker 1: You can finally, I mean on all the social media Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,
- 43:04Speaker 1: just at Adam Handbrig okay and uh and then of
- 43:07Speaker 1: course Adam handbrig dot com and you can listen to
- 43:10Speaker 1: music anywhere you get music. Thank you so much for
- 43:12Speaker 1: joining us and for that beautiful serenade. You are a
- 43:14Speaker 1: talented man. Thank you so much. Thanks for that, and
- 43:18Speaker 1: thank you again to your wife. Yes, thank you Lauren.
- 43:23Speaker 1: That guy has got a good voice. I mean, why
- 43:26Speaker 1: am I coin? No? He was so good. I'm so
- 43:29Speaker 1: glad that they gave him the platform to get it
- 43:32Speaker 1: out there. Or did you have anything else you want
- 43:34Speaker 1: to talk about as far as the episode? You know what?
- 43:36Speaker 1: I need one more opinion from you on one final
- 43:40Speaker 1: thing because this is something I keep thinking about. I
- 43:43Speaker 1: feel we've had these guys with these incredible emotional stories,
- 43:47Speaker 1: and they've shared their struggles like maybe more than any
- 43:50Speaker 1: other season. I can't think of another Bachelorette season when
- 43:53Speaker 1: the men have shared on this level. And I'm a
- 43:56Speaker 1: big believer that, you know, we all go through things. Um,
- 44:00Speaker 1: and I don't believe that your partner is there to
- 44:03Speaker 1: fix you, you know, I and Tatious said that. She said,
- 44:05Speaker 1: I'm not here to turn boys into men. I think
- 44:07Speaker 1: that you have to come into a successful relationship is
- 44:10Speaker 1: about coming in, you know, with each person largely as
- 44:13Speaker 1: a whole. Okay, your your partners should improve and challenge you,
- 44:15Speaker 1: but you've got to like have it together. Which of
- 44:18Speaker 1: these guys do you think, given like some of the
- 44:21Speaker 1: struggles they've had to go through and definitely like the
- 44:23Speaker 1: emotional work they've had to do, do you think they're
- 44:26Speaker 1: already for marriage or do any of them still have
- 44:29Speaker 1: like personal stuff to work on. I don't know, who
- 44:32Speaker 1: do you think is the most together? I think that
- 44:34Speaker 1: is like the biggest question here, because I don't want
- 44:36Speaker 1: to say that people who are going through things aren't
- 44:38Speaker 1: ready for a relationship. That is obviously not accurate. I
- 44:42Speaker 1: feel like all these guys probably have to do work
- 44:45Speaker 1: on themselves. Constantly, as all of us do. UM, but
- 44:48Speaker 1: some issues are bigger, you know, than others, and some
- 44:52Speaker 1: problems are more recent than others. UM. And I think
- 44:56Speaker 1: that you know, Ben brought up support of you know,
- 45:01Speaker 1: somebody close in your life and how important that is,
- 45:04Speaker 1: So that could be Tasia. She doesn't have to like
- 45:06Speaker 1: make them better, you know, to be like their emotional doctor,
- 45:10Speaker 1: but to be a support. The guy that I think
- 45:13Speaker 1: is most together and ready, I find I feel like
- 45:19Speaker 1: it might be Zack, but I guess I all Zach
- 45:22Speaker 1: or Brendan. I do love Brendan. He doesn't seem to
- 45:26Speaker 1: have the kind of he got divorced, you know, but
- 45:30Speaker 1: everything else in his life seems to be kind of
- 45:33Speaker 1: like positioned, positioning himself for marriage, you know, Zach kind
- 45:37Speaker 1: of like, here's what because like my gut instinct is Zach.
- 45:40Speaker 1: But there are two things that stuck out to me
- 45:42Speaker 1: this episode or maybe this season. One. He said not
- 45:45Speaker 1: too long ago that he's like just realized that he
- 45:48Speaker 1: feels ready for marriage, like being on the show made
- 45:50Speaker 1: him realize that, which I'm like, wait, is that a
- 45:52Speaker 1: great thing? Or is that like too soon? I don't know?
- 45:54Speaker 1: And then but him crying about making his parents, wanting
- 45:58Speaker 1: his parents to see him happy. Ilore, I don't know.
- 46:03Speaker 1: I agree. I agree there is that that moment really
- 46:07Speaker 1: made me feel like Zach is like so ready to
- 46:10Speaker 1: get married. I feel like the other guys if they'll
- 46:13Speaker 1: leave this and they will have grown and like they'll
- 46:17Speaker 1: have prepared themselves better for that moment that comes in
- 46:22Speaker 1: their life. But I feel like Zach is ready for
- 46:25Speaker 1: it now, and he'll be like the most devastated it
- 46:27Speaker 1: doesn't happen with Tasia. I wanted to ask you about it,
- 46:31Speaker 1: because it really is, like I said, I think this.
- 46:33Speaker 1: I can't think of another season when we've seen the
- 46:35Speaker 1: guys open up like this much and get this um
- 46:40Speaker 1: raw and and and it's kind of this thing where
- 46:42Speaker 1: you think, does this mean you, you know, have worked
- 46:48Speaker 1: through all your stuff? Does this mean Taste is the
- 46:51Speaker 1: perfect fit? And she's such a good listener I know.
- 46:55Speaker 1: So I'm like I racking my brain every week about
- 46:57Speaker 1: what the best fit for her is and I'm having
- 46:59Speaker 1: such a t I know it's gonna be hard. This
- 47:03Speaker 1: is going to be final ending of all. This is
- 47:06Speaker 1: going to be a freaking blood bath of tears. That's
- 47:10Speaker 1: what I think for this season. If she does get engaged,
- 47:14Speaker 1: she's going to know these guys for I'm not even
- 47:15Speaker 1: sure five weeks. And that's going to make you nervous.
- 47:20Speaker 1: And I know that's paradise status. You know, paradise you
- 47:23Speaker 1: get engaged after like three and a half weeks. But
- 47:26Speaker 1: with paradise you get to spend each waking moment and night.
- 47:30Speaker 1: If you choose with this person in this case, you
- 47:34Speaker 1: know she's going to have I know, we talked about
- 47:38Speaker 1: Clarien Dale speeding through things, but we're still We're still
- 47:41Speaker 1: going eighty miles, just crying along the way, all right, Lauren.
- 47:48Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about Tatia's personal life. Now
- 47:51Speaker 1: it's time for me to grill you on your personal life.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay, fine, if I get to talk about
- 47:56Speaker 1: Tatia's I gotta be able to talk about okay, cool.
- 47:58Speaker 1: I mean we've all done us um. Okay, So you
- 48:03Speaker 1: and Chris you did interviews before you were dating? Yes?
- 48:08Speaker 1: When was there was there always like a sense of attraction, flirtation,
- 48:12Speaker 1: chemistry between you guys? Know, like when did it turn?
- 48:16Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny I I would be interviewing him.
- 48:22Speaker 1: I mean I've been I've been an ETA for five
- 48:23Speaker 1: years this year, and the first couple of years I
- 48:27Speaker 1: would be interviewing him, and my friends, like my friends
- 48:31Speaker 1: from home, like my college friends would actually be like,
- 48:33Speaker 1: is Chris Harrison as hot in person as he sits
- 48:36Speaker 1: on the show, And I was like, he's fine, Dad,
- 48:40Speaker 1: I don't know you were also married at that point.
- 48:44Speaker 1: I was married at that point. I I you know,
- 48:46Speaker 1: there was no I was just I was also always
- 48:50Speaker 1: so focused on doing my job, you know. I mean,
- 48:53Speaker 1: Chris is a very as you know you've interviewed him.
- 48:56Speaker 1: He's a very good interview He really knows how as
- 48:58Speaker 1: he says to like Bob, and we've also gives great
- 49:01Speaker 1: sound bites. So I would be so focused going into
- 49:04Speaker 1: interview him, even when I was single. I would be
- 49:06Speaker 1: so focused on getting a good answer that I was
- 49:09Speaker 1: like not even really looking into those baby blue eyes
- 49:12Speaker 1: and then thinking about anything. Um. And then everything changed
- 49:16Speaker 1: when I think it was at a paradise tell all,
- 49:19Speaker 1: we literally ran into each other at craft services, like
- 49:23Speaker 1: I was going to get coffee, he was getting tea.
- 49:25Speaker 1: Because you know those tell all tapings are like nine
- 49:27Speaker 1: hours long, are often freezing in those warehouses, been there together.
- 49:33Speaker 1: We're on a studio set where I've passed out advil
- 49:36Speaker 1: at those tells before to everybody because you get a
- 49:39Speaker 1: headache from everyone screaming at each other. Um. So we
- 49:43Speaker 1: ran into each other and had what we now call
- 49:45Speaker 1: like our first human conversation. It was the first time
- 49:48Speaker 1: we'd ever spoken outside of an interview setting, and we
- 49:53Speaker 1: just kind of talked about life and like somehow, I
- 49:55Speaker 1: don't remember how, but it came out very quickly that
- 49:57Speaker 1: we were both single. And then I slid into his
- 50:02Speaker 1: d M s on Twitter and said, Hey, it was
- 50:04Speaker 1: so good to see you the other day, because I
- 50:05Speaker 1: was sort of like, was he flirting with me? And
- 50:08Speaker 1: he sort of sliding in the d M When you
- 50:10Speaker 1: guys are both single, it's flirting. I feel well, I
- 50:13Speaker 1: couldn't tell if he was flirting with me in person,
- 50:14Speaker 1: so then I was like, let me flirt for real
- 50:17Speaker 1: and see if you're flogged. I believe in opening the
- 50:19Speaker 1: door and if somebody walks through, that's great, and if not,
- 50:21Speaker 1: you know, I just keep on going down the hallway. Okay.
- 50:25Speaker 1: So he sent that out and how do you respond? Um.
- 50:28Speaker 1: Then things got Then it became clear to me very quickly.
- 50:32Speaker 1: You know, it was like, let's he did a great
- 50:34Speaker 1: thing which I think everyone needs to do, which is
- 50:36Speaker 1: he said, hey, let's like exchange numbers and you know,
- 50:39Speaker 1: get this off of the d M s UM. And
- 50:43Speaker 1: he very quickly said, let's get a drink together. And
- 50:46Speaker 1: again I'm like, because to me, I think it's so
- 50:49Speaker 1: dangerous when you keep messaging like I don't know, in
- 50:52Speaker 1: dating apps and all that, like you got to make
- 50:54Speaker 1: it a real interaction. UM. And he's old school like that,
- 50:57Speaker 1: which I think is great. So then we just had
- 50:59Speaker 1: one of these as drinks where we truly like talked
- 51:02Speaker 1: for three hours and he right away like texted me, hey,
- 51:06Speaker 1: it was great seeing you, and I like, when can
- 51:07Speaker 1: I take you out again? And fantastic Chris. I'm so proud.
- 51:11Speaker 1: He's such a good data. He's really learned being Okay, Well,
- 51:22Speaker 1: so what did you do before your republic? You went
- 51:25Speaker 1: six months hiding your relationship, as I find to be
- 51:28Speaker 1: very respectable and normal, but you still did interviews with
- 51:33Speaker 1: him during that six month period. How did you hide it?
- 51:37Speaker 1: I did? Honestly, it was kind of fun. I don't know,
- 51:40Speaker 1: it was kind of like and the reason that we
- 51:42Speaker 1: didn't go public with it, truly was because we were
- 51:44Speaker 1: both just like, look, this is going well, but I
- 51:46Speaker 1: don't want this to become a thing that affects you know,
- 51:49Speaker 1: my job or his job if it if it doesn't stick,
- 51:52Speaker 1: so um, we just want to make sure we were
- 51:54Speaker 1: serious before it went public. Um. And it was sort
- 51:59Speaker 1: of fun because we would be like, I'd see him
- 52:02Speaker 1: in interviews and I again I was there. I'm like,
- 52:04Speaker 1: I gotta do my job and ask all the questions
- 52:06Speaker 1: I need to ask, um, and then it would kind
- 52:09Speaker 1: of be like, all right, well, I'll see. It was
- 52:12Speaker 1: kind of a fun secret. Sometimes it's fun now, you know,
- 52:15Speaker 1: sometimes a little Yeah, it was. We were a little like,
- 52:18Speaker 1: um kind of had a little fun around town. It
- 52:20Speaker 1: was fun. Well, it was very fun when we were
- 52:23Speaker 1: down in Camcoon together doing something for entertainment tonight and
- 52:26Speaker 1: you were saying, you let us in that it was
- 52:29Speaker 1: a high profile person that you were dating. But you
- 52:33Speaker 1: but we had to play a guest and game us
- 52:35Speaker 1: to who it was, and we did guess Chris and
- 52:38Speaker 1: he did a great job maneuvering our thought process away
- 52:42Speaker 1: from that. You didn't know, did you really believe me
- 52:45Speaker 1: that it wasn't him. Yeah, I really I really did. Wow,
- 52:48Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel I'm I'm feeling confident right now.
- 52:51Speaker 1: Thank you for that. People want to know if you're
- 52:55Speaker 1: dating the most you know the face of this Roman
- 53:00Speaker 1: Anti franchise. What is the most romantic thing Chris has
- 53:04Speaker 1: ever done for you? Oh, besides texting you immediately after
- 53:08Speaker 1: your first date, because today's date age. I have to
- 53:13Speaker 1: tell you. He likes does it all? I mean? And
- 53:17Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't know, I'm not. He really is
- 53:21Speaker 1: like a he loves to surprise me. He's a big
- 53:24Speaker 1: gesture person. Um, he's like taking me on the helicopter date.
- 53:29Speaker 1: We helicopter um to Santorini in Greece. Um. He uh,
- 53:36Speaker 1: he got He did get me last year on my birthday.
- 53:40Speaker 1: He I thought we were driving somewhere and we did
- 53:44Speaker 1: have a small private plane moment that was pretty romantic
- 53:48Speaker 1: Bachelor dates. I mean, it's like, I don't know if
- 53:52Speaker 1: that's disappointing or exciting for people to hear, but he
- 53:55Speaker 1: really does do like the Bachelor dates like it's real
- 53:58Speaker 1: and it's kind of i'd boggling. Um, but he does
- 54:02Speaker 1: stuff like that and he always Oh my god, when
- 54:04Speaker 1: he gets me flowers, it's almost like they're the biggest,
- 54:06Speaker 1: most insane flowers and I don't even know how to
- 54:09Speaker 1: respond to them. Like he really does all those things.
- 54:11Speaker 1: How did you know? I was just gonna ask, has
- 54:13Speaker 1: he ever bought you roses? I mean, you know what.
- 54:17Speaker 1: I what I love is that and roses were actually
- 54:20Speaker 1: for me. Um My dad used to get me roses
- 54:22Speaker 1: growing up, so like they're my favorite flower. They always
- 54:24Speaker 1: have been. And I love that. You know, Chris just
- 54:28Speaker 1: loves It's like you can't go wrong with roses. They're classic.
- 54:30Speaker 1: I love them, He loves them, We all love them.
- 54:32Speaker 1: So yeah, big big, big bunch of roses. Um. You
- 54:37Speaker 1: know what, though, I have to say, it's also like
- 54:39Speaker 1: those little things. I mean, on our he's really a
- 54:44Speaker 1: you know, we all have our love languages, as they
- 54:46Speaker 1: like did on the show this season. Chris is really
- 54:48Speaker 1: a words of affirmation person. And on our two year anniversary,
- 54:53Speaker 1: I did not I don't know. I had no idea
- 54:55Speaker 1: like what he was gonna get me, what we would do,
- 54:58Speaker 1: because he was gone, I for he was keen to us.
- 55:00Speaker 1: We went together and I woke up and I had
- 55:05Speaker 1: in my email inbox this like two page letter from him, Chris,
- 55:14Speaker 1: and it was just all about like how loving me
- 55:17Speaker 1: had changed his life and how happy he was, and
- 55:20Speaker 1: I just like read it through tears. It was I
- 55:23Speaker 1: will you know what, that was the most romantic thing,
- 55:25Speaker 1: honestly because I had never had someone touched me with
- 55:29Speaker 1: words like that before. And um, I think probably you know,
- 55:33Speaker 1: we all grew up being like you want the Princess
- 55:35Speaker 1: moments where they do these things, and it was the
- 55:37Speaker 1: most little thing for him to just write from the heart.
- 55:40Speaker 1: But I don't know, I was like, I feel like
- 55:42Speaker 1: I'm in another time where people write letters like some
- 55:45Speaker 1: pride and prejudice crap. And it was really really, really beautiful.
- 55:48Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, wow, am I going to cry on
- 55:52Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast? Oh my god? Those are our
- 55:56Speaker 1: favorite moments. I was gonna ask you, did you have
- 56:00Speaker 1: expectations with this guy who's just, you know, again the
- 56:06Speaker 1: face of the franchise, like he's supposed to be romantic.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Did you assume he would be romantic and would have
- 56:11Speaker 1: picked up things from the show, or did you feel like, oh,
- 56:14Speaker 1: this is just gonna be a regular guy Chris from
- 56:18Speaker 1: the you know this from the instant you meet him,
- 56:21Speaker 1: he gives off like this classic old Hollywood energy, you know,
- 56:26Speaker 1: he's like from Texas. He's like a man, and I
- 56:30Speaker 1: mean that in the best ways of like sort of
- 56:32Speaker 1: this old school even though he completely champions me as
- 56:36Speaker 1: this independent career woman and he just like is my
- 56:39Speaker 1: biggest cheerleader in all those ways. He's also like, I
- 56:43Speaker 1: will make you feel taken care of in every way,
- 56:45Speaker 1: and I so I never even like, was never a
- 56:47Speaker 1: question for me. I think from that first date when
- 56:49Speaker 1: he's you know, texted me right away, Hey, are you
- 56:51Speaker 1: home safe? I had an amazing time tonight, like and
- 56:54Speaker 1: I'd love to take you out as soon as possible. Again,
- 56:55Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this guy's not messing around, you know.
- 56:58Speaker 1: This guy's like actually, I don't know if I've ever
- 57:03Speaker 1: said this. There was when we first started dating. It
- 57:06Speaker 1: was weird timing. I had gone out on a couple
- 57:09Speaker 1: of dates with this other guy and I told Chris
- 57:13Speaker 1: right away. I was like, look, I was kind of
- 57:15Speaker 1: like dating this other guy and I don't know where,
- 57:18Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I kind of like him
- 57:19Speaker 1: and like I want to take this slow. And he
- 57:22Speaker 1: said to me, okay, yeah, no, like figure that out
- 57:26Speaker 1: and gone dates with whoever you want, and like when
- 57:30Speaker 1: you and hopefully if you realize that I'm the guy
- 57:33Speaker 1: for you, I'm not dating anyone else, and I'm right here.
- 57:35Speaker 1: And I was like, damn, damn, Chris Harris said, living
- 57:42Speaker 1: up to all the expectations and fantasies, it's almost upsetting.
- 57:48Speaker 1: It's almost like, Okay, keep being perfect. But I love
- 57:53Speaker 1: what you said about his old Hollywood energy. He certainly
- 57:56Speaker 1: has that. You know. He's like he wears a watch
- 57:58Speaker 1: and a suit and he's like, I'm going to do
- 58:00Speaker 1: things right. I don't know. There's something about that. And
- 58:03Speaker 1: it's a sexy vine. It's a Richard gear Esk kind
- 58:05Speaker 1: of a thing. Got a swag. He's got a swag,
- 58:07Speaker 1: and he is so much more intelligent that people would
- 58:10Speaker 1: even think. It's so much more talented, and his job
- 58:14Speaker 1: is far more difficult than people think it is. He
- 58:17Speaker 1: makes it look easy. That's how you know he's one
- 58:18Speaker 1: of the greats. You know, he really makes it look easy,
- 58:21Speaker 1: like I always think. I kept thinking, you know that
- 58:23Speaker 1: that moment when he was sitting down with Claire and
- 58:25Speaker 1: Dale and he said, what's next for you guys? And
- 58:28Speaker 1: Dale started to answer and then Claire said babies and
- 58:30Speaker 1: Dale kept talking and Chris said, oh, wait, like Dale,
- 58:34Speaker 1: she said, you know, And I just thought he such
- 58:36Speaker 1: a good interviewer. You know, he like listens, he calls
- 58:39Speaker 1: people out in the right ways. He's great at it. Wait, now,
- 58:42Speaker 1: if you ever revealed what the most romantic thing Jared
- 58:44Speaker 1: has done for you is? Like, now, I want to
- 58:46Speaker 1: know because I love you guys together so much. Sorry,
- 58:49Speaker 1: I can't be somewhere and not interview someone. Oh it's okay,
- 58:53Speaker 1: So I think I think the most romantic it was
- 58:58Speaker 1: actually before we were together, but like during that year
- 59:01Speaker 1: of complete confusion for me, in between Bade and Paradise seasons.
- 59:06Speaker 1: So it was my birthday, So the first birthday that
- 59:08Speaker 1: we knew each other, he sent roses to my apartment
- 59:14Speaker 1: and it's like the note said like the Corey. It
- 59:18Speaker 1: was like sincerely, like the Corey to your topanga and
- 59:20Speaker 1: it was like a really cute note. Oh and he
- 59:22Speaker 1: knew you'd love that, I know. And then he goes like,
- 59:26Speaker 1: but that's not your own. This is not your only gift,
- 59:29Speaker 1: and he's like, you'll get your your real gift later tonight.
- 59:32Speaker 1: And that's when he like recreated the Backstreet Boys music
- 59:36Speaker 1: video uh Me. And it was just like so funny
- 59:40Speaker 1: because well it wasn't funny, it was romantic because I
- 59:44Speaker 1: knew how much effort he had to put into that
- 59:46Speaker 1: and like how he had to have his roommate follow
- 59:48Speaker 1: him around like do all the moves and the mouth
- 59:52Speaker 1: the words and you know, edit the whole thing together,
- 59:55Speaker 1: and it was just like you could tell it was
- 59:56Speaker 1: a project. It's the effort. For me, it with anything.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: I'm like, whether it's you're writing a letter or giving
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: someone a gift, what's the effort behind it? And what
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I love about that is that Jared did what he
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: knew would make it was you personal. That's always such
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: a difference to me in a gift. I'm like, ladies, gentlemen,
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: whoever look at if someone's getting you, like an expensive
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: gift or something. I mean, okay, great, but like, are
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: they getting you a gift they know you will love
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: or they just trying to make a show of giving
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: the gift. It's such a key distinction. And Corey to
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Panga Backstreet Boys, Jared is always embraced and loved exactly
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: who you are, which is why seeing you guys so
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: happy together it makes me so happy because you know
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: how real it is. Thank you Now now that you
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: say this, now I have to spring up something else
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: he did that year. Sorry, sorry guy. The producers are
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: probably like, actually, move on, move on. Um okay. So
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: this was a couple of months before that gesture, and
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: this was when we were just starting to become honestly
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: like friends because getting off the show it was weird
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: because it was just weird. And then we're at that fall.
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: We got close and we were like having glimpsed, like
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: there were the glimmers, you know, and there were the flirtations.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: And we had gone to this club lounge thing in
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: in l A with Nick JJ and one of Nick's friends,
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: and I was the only girl amongst the bunch, was
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: like trying to fit in with the boys, right, And
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: we were leaving this place, there was a like a
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: vendor somebody handing out single roses outside as we waited
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: for Uber to come, and I joked about I was like, Jared,
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: you so owe me one of those roses, and he
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: felt really bad because he didn't have any cash on him,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: so he didn't end up getting it for me. And
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: then a couple of days later, he said, um, like
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: what's your address, or like except expect something in the mail,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: because like just expect something to the mail. I'm like okay,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: And like he kept checking in like did it come?
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Did it come? And it never ended up coming. I
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: was like I didn't. I still think it your special
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: surprise whatever. And then he wrote me this long monol
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: like monologue. I call it a monologue. It wasn't read.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: It was a long text and so theatrical. I love it,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: and in it it said like so many sweet sweet things,
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: and but the bottom line of it was I sent you.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: The surprise gift was I sent you a dozen roses
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: because I really wanted to buy you that rose that night.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: But you deserve more than just a rose. You deserve
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: more than a dozen roses. Blah blah blah blah. And
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: I was like, so everybody who thought I was wild
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: on paradise like stick our second go around, Like now
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: understands the thing is, you know, as you guys are
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: the story. It took a minute, but then once it happened,
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: it happened. And as we stay on TikTok one of
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: my favorite TikTok sounds. If he wanted to he would yeah,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and Jared did yeah, yes, yes, all right, now it's
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: time to talk about other members of Bachelor Nation besides ourselves.
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you an honorary Bachelor Nation member. Do
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: you agree with that? Come on, yeah, I don't know
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: what else I would be, so yes, I will say
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: that I'm sort of an indoctrinated I guess it's kind
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: of like sometimes people think I've been on the show
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: is funny. I'm also like, you just give it a
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: quick Google, you'll see that's the case. I think there
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: are a couple of friends of the show that feel
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: that way, you know. I feel like Matt James was
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: before he was actually on the show. I feel like
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Tanya rad With with her relationship with with a lot
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation, is like that as well. So before
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: we get into bachelor headlines, I just want to, you know,
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- 1:04:45Speaker 1: the free Affirm app for eligible customers. Lauren, what are
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: you What are you thinking about getting Chris for for Christmas?
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: I mean like in the in the in you know,
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: the field, the field of it, because because I know
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: he loves golf, so does he always want something new golf?
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: He is an incredibly difficult man to buy for. No,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: he like has golf, everything, gets everything. I don't know.
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: Offline you manage to give some good ideas. I don't know.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: I really try to make stuff personal, Like for his
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: birthday this year. He loves the band You Too, So
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: I went on eBay and I found there a pamphlet
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: from their first concert that he ever went to on
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: the Josh before n I framed that. And now I'm
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: really out of ideas. I don't know, so are so
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: we gotta come up with something. Let's offline, Okay, all right,
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- 1:05:51Speaker 1: of those gifts that you want to give. Our first
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: headline this week is Tasia Adams waited to have sex
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: before her first marriage. She said this is She says
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: she's not gonna do it again. She says, this is
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: something that you have to explore. No, I actually think
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: this is interesting because I mean, you know people. I
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: mean like there's there's me, there's so many, There's Maddie
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: and then there's Colton, who whose season she was on.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: And it's interesting that this didn't come up during Colton's season.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: She never said, you know, I get waiting. I waited
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: for my first marriage. Actually her first marriage was to
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: her first boyfriend too, so that is such a good point. Wow,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: that really would have been something for them to connect on.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: I know, I know. But she does say now that
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: she's she's not gonna do it again. She thinks that
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: that kind of intimacy is something that you should explore
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: before locking it down. I agree. But how do you
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: feel I respected both decisions? Uh? Yeah, Like, if you
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: want to wait, I think you should wait. Um, but
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: if you don't, I think that it's Honestly, I think
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: it depends on the person. I think it depends on
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: how important that is to you, And like obviously if
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: you're waiting, you don't even know how important it would
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: be to you. Totally depends on the person. I also
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: think it depends on the life place during the age
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: you're at. Honestly, totally, I totally, I completely see how Um.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: I think there's something about often when you at least
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: with what I've seen from my friends because I grew
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: up in the Midwest and a lot of people I
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: know got married younger, like, including myself, um now divorced,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: but it's fine. Um So I think that when you
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: get married younger, like, you can in many ways sort
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: of like grow up with that person and that can
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: really work. Or you know, sometimes you grow apart and
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: you're like, oh wait, we didn't know who we were yet.
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: But I completely understand when if you get married really young,
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: especially like and that's an important conviction to you, it
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: that can work out great and it can be fine,
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: and it can be something really special and beautiful that
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: you share with that person. I do know a couple
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: of people who are like truly in their thirties and
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: like still waiting, and I'm like, you might want to
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: just yeah dive. In My take on this is that
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: it's totally up to the person, and it's totally up
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: to the person's beliefs. If you want to wait, fantastic.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: If you don't want to wait, I'm cool with that too.
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter what I think. It matters what
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: you think and how you want to live your life
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: and go through your relationship. So right now, Tasia does
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: not want to wait to have sex until after marriage. Again, well,
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: maybe she's learned from her first experience that for her,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: it's something she needs to know about. She's like, I, I, actually,
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: I've realized this is really important to me, and I've
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: got to have that level of intimacy to know. I
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: understand that when you've been divorced, you're like, wait, I
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: really I really really want to make sure I'm good
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: before I get married again. Like that's something you go
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: into relationships with. I think, like we saw on that
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: wedding dress date with her and Zach, you could tell
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: she was like, this is triggering for me, this is
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: furious for me. So I think it's it seems to
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: be about that she like takes marriage very seriously and
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: wants to really feel good about the person in every
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: respect before she would get married again. Yeah, I alwayusly
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: got Jessica Simpson and how she waited with Nicholas and
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: then like afterward she was like, I wouldn't do that again,
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: and she was she was taking up being John Mayer's
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: sexual napom and all that kind of Hollywood interview. And
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: I Our next headline is the release of Matt James
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: Is Season press release. Okay, so in this press release
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: I'm going through there's a couple of things that are
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: worthy of noting. For you guys. There are thirty two
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: girls that come out the limo on night one, and
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: that seems to becoming more of the norm that we're
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: getting an number around thirty. Now it looks as if
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: he eliminates it down to twenty four women at that
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: first Rose ceremony on night one, So that was a
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: big chunk. Eight girls out. Bye, that's rough. I feel
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: bad for them. What do you think of his tagline?
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: That was? I think that was the next thing I
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: wanted to talk about that I am not down, so
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: that you're not you guys, the tag line for this
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: season is a Matt made in Heaven. I mean, I
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: get that we try to be punny, but a Matt
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: made in heaven. A Matt I mean, oh oh no,
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: I'm getting Oh my god, wait, where you not getting it?
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, no, I was getting like a
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: match made in heaven. Okay, right, So I was getting
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: a match made in heaven, and then I was like
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: a Matt as in heat. See when I think of
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: the word Matt in that sentence, thinking of like a carpet,
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: like a bath, like a bath mat. Oh my God,
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: I can't that was going to be on his poster,
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: A Matt made in Heaven. Okay, yeah, okay, because he
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: is like, he looks like he's made in heaven. Oh
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: my god. Wow, talk about being slow today maybe every day. Wow,
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassed. Now it all makes sense. I'm like
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: a Matt made in like speaking of Jessica Simpson was
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: this year. This is it. I was here for it.
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: I feel honored. Oh my goodness. Okay, well there you go.
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: All right, So now how do you feel about a
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: mat made in happen? Now? I think it's cute because
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: I met Matt and I think that he had he
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: has made in heaven. I think he's a fantastic, fantastic
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: choices bachelor. Love his vibes. He's like six eight I entered.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: So what's weird is I interviewed him literally before it
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: might have been the day before it was supposed to
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: be Claire's Night one, when it was like, you know,
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: that weird week in March. He was like, oh my god,
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: is everything shutting down? So entertainment tonight. We go and
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: do interviews on the set at different points during the season,
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: and I interviewed Matt like as a contestant on clear scene,
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: that's right because you have yeah, yeah that so like
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: clips from the video or up on my Instagram. Still,
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: it's so weird now because I actually asked him in
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: the interview, which well, if it doesn't work, how clear
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: would you have to be the Bachelor? But like how
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: did he say it? I think he said, you know,
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: a solid answer, which is like, look, I hope it
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: works out with Claire. I mean, she seems amazing. So
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: he's very but I had never met him or talked
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: to him before. I just heard about him through Tyler obviously,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: and he um, he was he had great answers for
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: things like he was a great interview. It made me
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: feel really confident about him as the Bachelor. Um and
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: I love the tagline because I do think I think
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: the Bachelor nation has gotten to know him through Tyler,
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: and I feel like people look at him is like
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: this great guy, Like I mean, we're gonna watch the
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: whole season unfold, but right now, I think people look
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: at him and they're like, he seems like awesome, just
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: you know, he seems like making me way. He's way
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: swoonier and of life, and he was in the quarantine house.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: He was like a bro in the quarantine house. Oh yeah,
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: the quarantine crew, Tyler and all them like dancing in
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: the yard. Yeah. I think it helps to have I
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: mean this promo when you put a suit on a
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: man and he's like tugging at the tie like that.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: It's a lot of great visuals. He looks great, great
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: great photo. And also I want to go back to
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: the thirty two girls. Actually this is the first is
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: a record breaking year. Thirty two never had that many
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: on opening night. But it doesn't seem like, oh it's
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: twenty four, continue on, so I feel like that is
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: a pretty normal number. Okay, So our next headline is
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: Beca Martinez thinks that Claire Curly and Dale Moss were
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: almost coursed into getting engaged. She thinks that there was
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: too much pressure on them. She says, quote, I would
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: not be happy if I were her. It just felt
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: like there was a lot of spinning of what happened
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: to make her lee you. I mean, it was just
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: so obvious as a viewer at the very end that
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: the two of them were almost coerced into getting engaged.
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: It seems like they really love each other, but that
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: was bizarre, and I would be upset as a lead
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: to be pretty piste off because you you sort of
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: shortened me a season that was supposed to be mine.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: But you know, at the end of the day, I
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: have to give it to Claire because she seems like
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: she was really there for the right reasons. What do
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: you think about that? I don't I don't know. I
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: know that there are telling people to be upset. I'm like,
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: like her saying, if I were her, I'd I'd be
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: pissed or what it was the other thing she said,
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: if I were her, I wouldn't be happy like Claire's happy.
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one thing we've heard from Claire herself,
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: it's that she's super in love, super happy. Dale is
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: her person and I quote Dale and her met on
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: another realm, in another life. He is the guy for
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: her and she has found everything she wants. So I'm like,
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: why are we telling her to not Why are we
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: telling her to be frustrated when she's so happy? And
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: in addition to that, like I know that there were
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: rumors about like her them, you know, like the way
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: that she was like forced out of being the Bachelor
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: writer whatnot but watching that episode, that final episode, there
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: is nothing that makes me think that she just seemed
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: like she wanted to get out of there with Dale,
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: no other factors. She said that herself, and I think
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: the lines that always stuck out to me actually from
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: what she said, even more than when she was saying
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: I just want to be with you know, we start
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: saying I just want to be with Dale, you know.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: But then when Chris, Chris asked her something about the
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: next step is a or do you want a proposal?
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: And I think she said, that's the dumbest question you've
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: ever asked me? Yes, And I just thought, Okay, yeah,
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: she's she's she's thinking, how could anyone think I don't
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: want this? I don't know, so I don't know. You know.
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: Claire said many times she was at the age where
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: she knew exactly what she wanted and she was tired
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: of waiting. So Claire seems happy, and I said, go
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: be happy, Claire and I have I don't like telling
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: people to be unhappy. Well, we got some happy news here.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Lauren Bushnell are expecting their first child.
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: She talked on Instagram about how absolutely thrilled they are.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: She says a dream, except I'm not dreaming, I'm wide
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: awake as she has, you know a picture of the sonogram,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: she says, watching you dance around my belly, listening to
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: your little heart, um, your little harpie, my new favorite sound,
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: a miracle, new life are sweet baby, thank you Jesus um.
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: And then I know that Chris Lane said I hope
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: you look like your mama, which is super cute, And
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: of course Ben was quick to respond on Instagram saying
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: that this congrats, what a thing to celebrate. So um
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: happiness already happy news. Yes, I love some happy news
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: in and a baby is always a blessing. And I
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: just feel like Lauren has um I don't know she's
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: she's just really I think found like her and Christine
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: have so much fun together. I feel like you can
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: see that on Instagram, and um, I don't it seems
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: like they're just really building this beautiful life together. I
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: don't have to say about them like this is great. Great.
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: She was open a couple of months ago about like
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: their struggles to have a child, like I don't we
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: don't know how long they were trying, but you know,
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: it just seemed to not be as easy as she
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: was hoping for it to be. So we're really happy
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: to hear that she's pregnant, and you know she's she's
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: pretty pretty far along to be comfortable enough to talk
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: about it. All right. Yeah, so another baby news Chris.
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: Crystal Neilsen says it was scary finding out she was
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: pregnant while she was still legally married to Chris. Uh.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: Nothing more really to collaborate here, but but that is, um,
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: that's some stressful stuff right there, right. I mean the
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: time thing and all this stuff about them coming out
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: too has been crazy, right because I think it was
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: like Chris ran done and just come back on Instagram
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: and like a matter of hours later, Crystal announced she
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: was pregnant, which it very much seemed like she'd been
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: working on that announcement for a while because she had
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: a whole video to go and ready to go and everything.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: I was just like this like that. I don't know,
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: I was. It's a lot to process. I know, it's
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: the way it's played out publicly has made it like
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: it's sort of it's a lot to process. It's just
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: hard because you want to be happy for her, and
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: you are happy for her, but like you're also sad
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: for him, and he just like it keeps, he just
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: keeps getting hit down, you know, just like with the
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: first of the boyfriend and then the baby news is
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: just like a guy I can't come up for air.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I know, I I wish them
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: both the best. I think I entered. I did like
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: a big interview with them once, and they had talked
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: about Crystal and Chris about how they've been like literally
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: two couples like days long couples retreats together to do
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: very deep there because he has heard about these Yes,
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: so I think that I'm just like whatever, you know,
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: they've both been through a lot in their lives and
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: whatever you guys, like if you found happiness, like cling
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: on to that. You know. I hope that Chris ran
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: don't find somebody to me too. From one Bachelor divorce
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: to the longest Bachelor marriage, Trista and Ryan Sutter celebrated
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: seventeen years of marriage this week. That's incredible, canfully the
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: show has got on for seventeen plus years and it's
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: so cool to have a success story. Like there's like
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: and then what a horrible time though, I feel so
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: bad he's continuing to battle this mystery illness. They don't
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: know what is what's going on with with poor Ryan. Um,
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: but this is a truly in sickness and health moment.
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: And I know that they've been like tons of people
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: have been offering them potential solutions, and I think that
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: in itself is probably stressful, like trying to field it
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: all and and um, they are just you know, they're
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: one of those couples that I think did the brilliant
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: thing right where they said, like, we're going to embrace
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: and love the way we met. We loved the show,
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: like we love all the opportunities from it, but we're
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: also going to like go live a normal life together.
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: And they really have. You know, they take their kids
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: to hockey practice and he's a firefighter and they are
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: they've just like have I think, really found success in
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: like building that real real life together. They're they're the
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: gold standard of that for me. No, I love it.
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, guys, don't have a transition from
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: a seventeen year old marriage to Tyler Cameron's new merch
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: line of sweatshirts covered with a shirtless photo of him. Yeah,
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: so this was gonna be weird. I'm going to be honest.
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: I'm super nice to everyone usually, right this merch line.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: Don't really like it. I I think it's weird. I
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: wouldn't wear it. I will say that I don't. I
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: don't think I would wear it. Um. I think I'm
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: looking at his instagram now. The first it's very interesting
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: to see someone wear themselves on a shirt. It's not
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: something you just like see very often exactly. It's a
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: little self indulgent for me. I think all social media
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: is self indulgent. All of us are kind of like,
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: look at my life, Look what I'm doing, Look how
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: pretty I am, and all that stuff. But it crosses
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: the line when you take the shirtless photo of yourself
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: and then you wear it. Well, the second photo, he's
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: totally naked. He's just holding a pie over his area
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: on the second sweatshirt, and then Matt James is like,
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: photo you wow, maybe it's a pizza. I can't really tell. Um. Yeah,
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: I you know what. On the one hand, know your brand,
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: do what works for you? Certainly on brand um the
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: shirtless stuff, yes, and uh, and I'll be interested to
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: see what happens. They also it's such it's a lot
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: to take in because also in this merch line is
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: names Cameron one like as if it's like their president
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: and vice president like ticket together, And I'm like, I
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I would not vote for Tyler
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: and Matt for president vice president all my love, but
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: I would not, And I don't think I would wear
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: shirtless Tyler Cameron sweatshirt. But I do wish him the
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: best with the product. Now see, there there might be
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: an audience for this. I understand that you. I think
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: it's not us. That's not us. Um. I think that
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: a lot of girls do want a shirtless selfish I
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: think that a lot of girls do want a shirtless
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: photo of Tyler on their chest on their sweatshirt. But
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: I also don't know if I love the fact that
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: he's like pulling Matt in on all of this, Like
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: it's kind of like he's trying to tag along with
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: his bachelor Matt. But I know that Matt could even
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: about Yeah, yeah, you know you're tag team in it. Okay,
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: I think you're right. This goes back to what you
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: and I were talking about earlier, like how far do
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: we go with like saying that we find the guys
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: of the franchise attractive or whatever. If you want to
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: wear Tyler Camera shirtless on your body, great, Tyler is
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: a hot guy. I will not be wearing a photo
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: of Tyler Camera shirtless on my first agreed. Okay, so
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: we have two emails that we want to hit before
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: we wrap up. Lauren, Lauren, thank you for dedicating so
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: much time to this today. Really really thank you for
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: our first emails. From Cora, she said, this is a
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: response to your feelings about Ben getting naked on the date.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: I think that at first it seems a little weird
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: because we don't know how how this is letting him
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: this is him letting his guard down. But when we
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: learn about his eating disorder, I think it all came
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: together and it made sense for me. He had the
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: strength to bear it all and be proud of the
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: body that he has. I don't think what he did
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: on the date was weird when you look at the
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: big picture. Totally agree. Now, Cora, Ben and I both
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: apologize for not bringing up the Bulimia conversation last week.
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: We don't know how that slipped our mind. I do
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: you know, multiple recaps throughout the week on different platforms,
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: and I approached on everything else. For some reason, we've
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: slipped our mind here, and that was a very important
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: conversation to have. Super Brave of him, as we talked
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: about earlier in the show, especially as a man talking
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: about UM, an eating disorder, which is actually very common.
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: It's it's not very common, but it's actually more common
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: than you would think. I did look up stats last
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: week and there's over a million men in the country,
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: like per year that are suffering from an eating disorder UM.
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: And yes, I do think that body image and how
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: where he is with it now does tie back to
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: him stripping down on that date, So it it may
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: be a little bit, a little bit out of the norm,
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: but I do think it makes way more sense now
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: in context, and we should have talked about that last week.
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: I'm so interested to know also, how much like like,
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: if Ben had shared that with the other guys m
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: because we saw him tell it to Tasia and private.
- 1:25:08Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he should have. I'm just interested
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: to know because if they didn't know that, I would
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: understand how the other guys would look at him stripping
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: down and be like kind of like, you know, kind
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: of like wearing a shirt was photo, and it's like, oh,
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: that's a little self indulge in bro like just getting naked.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: But then yeah, when you look at it with that
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: additional context from him and the sharing, like it probably
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: was that I'm projecting my thoughts on him or which
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: I don't mean to, but I can't imagine that it
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: was easy. It seemed like to him it was a
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: vulnerable moment to do that, so it became really powerful
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: as you watched the whole narrative unfold totally, and like,
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: his body isn't something obviously that he's always been proud
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: and confident and comfortable in, So he really was bearing
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: himself there, all right. Our other email is from Joanna
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: and she said, I noticed during this season during cocktail
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: parties after group dates, the guys have been dressing fairly casual,
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: while Tasia has been all dressed up very nicely. It's
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: driving me nuts. Has anybody else noticed this? So I
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: think my excuse for this, and yeah, I guess I'm
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: excusing the guys is that Tassia gets to wear you know, sleeveless,
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: strap less short dresses. It's you know, it's freaking hot,
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: and a girl, yeah, a girl can dress the Nines
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: when it's hot, but guys having to wear, you know,
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: a long sleeve shirt and then a suit on top
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: of it with pants. Oh my gosh, guys, the heat
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: that we felt down there was unlike anything I've ever experienced.
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: It's truly like being in a sauna. It was a
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen degrees when I was there. So, yeah, Lauren,
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: you have more to elaborate on this. Well, what Chris
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: would tell me too was that also, like at night,
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: there was no relief for them, like there's not in
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: California usually at night there's no humidity and it like
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: cools down a lot at night. He was like, no,
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: in the desert in the summer, it was still so
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: hot at night, and yeah, what are the guys going
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: to wear a tank top? Like? They don't have a
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: lot of options. Because I asked him, I'm like, I
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: feel like these guys are in white T shirts every minute?
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: Did they pack wrong? And you guys did to go
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: and get them some white T shirts to wear? And
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: he said no, it was just you know, usually see
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: the guys in the collared shirts. It was way too hot.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: And then obviously on TV, you can't wear T shirts
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: with like logos, you know, so they just all keep
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: ending up in these like just basic white T shirts
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: so that they don't look too messy but that they
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: can actually function enough on you, guys, I wish you
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: could have experienced the heat and and how it felt
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: feels at night to still it's like it cools down
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: a bit, but it's still pretty hard to breathe out there. Blessed,
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: we blessed. We thank everyone for going out and filming
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: this show on the service of the Sun and bringing
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: it to us the viewers. We thank them. We are
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: so grateful for them for giving us some fresh content.
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: And there's so many people behind the scenes on the show, like,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: thank you guys, you did an amazing job. And so
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: many of them couldn't see their families, you know, quarantine
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: down there for months. Oh right, well, Lauren Zeema Elzie
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: fantastic co host. Thank you so much for joining me.
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. I love breaking it down with you.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: Um you've got you know, got great insight girl, Ashley
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: I Ken Eddie, thank you for having me. We missed,
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: Ben Higgins and Um I have just so appreciated this.
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: What a treat. Um. If you guys, don't follow me.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: I am at Lauren Zema and please check out Roses
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: and Rose, which is my Bachelor Bachelotte recap with you
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- 1:28:31Speaker 1: so much. I'm so happy. All right now, I want
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: you to follow our lead. We make all of our
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: guests signed off with us like this. It's a little
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: bit harder to catch on since Ben's not here, but
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: this is how we say our goodbyes. Thanks for joining us,
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- 1:28:48Speaker 1: I've Been Lauren Zena. There you go Okay by Lauren,
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