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The Big Gay After Show: April 28th, 2026 - Ron DeSantis is Begging! · The Big Gay Radio Show

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  The views expressed on The Big Gay After Show may not
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  necessarily reflect the views of the Nathan B Stubblefield
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  Foundation or those of the staff or management of WM and F Tampa.
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  Listener discretion is advised. Where the T's hotter, the laughs
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  are louder, and nothing's off limits, this is the Big Gay
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  After show. Welcome to the big Gay After
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  show. My name is Chris Gorman.
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  I'm your show twink here, joined by Esme Russell, who doesn't
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  know where she's at. I do know where I'm at, but I
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  don't know where I'm going. Where?
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  Where do you come from? Where do you go?
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  Yeah, Where do you come from? Where do you go?
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  We're also joined by the vivacious Vince Suasian.
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  We're also joined by Jesse, Harley and Danielle from the
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  event Fat, the fashion event Ink and Lace.
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  Hey, guys. Thanks for having us.
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  We are so glad to have you guys on the after show.
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  So, miss, are you acting ladylike today?
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  I never act ladylike. I'm on air.
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  Neither do we. Please a lady ish.
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  Lady adjacent. A lady adjacent, definitely.
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  Yes, lady adjacent so. What's the question?
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  Well, that was the question. Are you behaving?
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  I I am, I can I be honest with you, Chris, I keep looking at
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  the calendar and I keep missing the marijuana cigarettes, not
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  the. Same.
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  Without the IT was like the marijuana in the dog's mouth
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  really made me happy even though I'm not a pot smoker.
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  I personally just thought it was just a It was just a nice look
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  on the dog. I.
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  Thought he was happy. The dog was a joy.
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  The marijuana looks. Better in the picture.
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  The dog the the marijuana cigarette in the dog's mouth
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  made the dog look high as hell. Doesn't he look sad now?
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  He just looks sad now he does. I.
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  Don't know why they took it away.
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  All right, well, I got some topics.
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  I got some tea for you guys. So a Minnesota teacher withdrew
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  from the 2026 Teacher of a Year competition after photos of him
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  in a leather themed context contest.
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  No, it was at a leather themed contest.
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  But he was wearing a harness. Wearing a harness.
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  But I mean, he was there, he was at a, he was in a leather themed
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  contest. Laying on a Bale of hay.
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  And they were shared by a right wing.
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  As other men kissed on him, calling him good boy.
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  Esme like a. Fun time I.
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  Feel like you're kink shaming so Esme.
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  I'm not. Esme, are you going to just go
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  ahead and kink shame this poor man?
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  No. I just think that.
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  You are. It sounded enticing, honestly.
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  You. Sound.
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  Very everything that's. Right, everything that he did
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  was fine, but I don't know if I would want this man teaching my
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  children. Why?
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  I don't know. I'm challenging you on that.
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  I don't know. I just, I don't know.
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  I just they're 12 year 1211 and 12 year old kids.
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  I don't know he's. Not doing that.
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  At school. School.
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  No, I know. I agree.
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  I agree with that part. I just don't know.
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  I'm so conservative. When it comes to school, you
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  know, you know exactly the So you know something that's really
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  funny. I'm glad.
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  I think that's really funny that you say that.
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  'Cause I have something to add to this.
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  No, I have something to add to this too.
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  That's why I'm trying to speak. Why would you go ahead and say
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  the exact same thing that they say about trans people about
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  this person who does leather? So.
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  I would. Would you go ahead and teach?
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  So hold on, I would never teach children.
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  First of all, I'm too controversial to teach children
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  so. Would a So let me rephrase trans
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  people. Should a trans person teach?
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  If she's, if she wants to, I just couldn't do it.
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  So I wouldn't. I don't read books to children.
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  People have asked me and I have a very specific mindset about
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  that. Number one, I'm not qualified to
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  read books to children. I don't like kids that much
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  anyway. This guy's.
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  Qualified. Yeah, so he's a teacher, but I
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  am not. So I just don't read books to
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  kids. I've just never been one of
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  those people. I've just trans people just so
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  I'm so controversial that I don't put myself in a position
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  where I have to. That's a layer of protection,
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  yeah. Right it.
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  Is for me, but I come from a different generation so I'm glad
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  you worded it that way instead of the way he's tried to word it
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  'cause you are. It is you personally, but do
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  you? Think it's it is a layer of
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  trans. No, 'cause I know trans teachers
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  and they're wonderful, yeah, so I have no problem with.
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  That I know a lot of things, but.
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  They know a lot. Of people in the leather pig
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  community that are teachers too. But they also live very.
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  More than qualified. But they also, but they also
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  live without, but they leave that out.
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  But they also live very conservative lives.
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  Yeah, I have a personal experience to share with this,
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  so I have I, I went to school up in Georgia.
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  Yeah, in Gwinnett County. I'm just going to leave it at
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  that, OK? I'm going to leave it at that.
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  Had an excellent librarian, OK. And I'm talking about this
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  person was like a safe space for for me.
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  I was not, I didn't discover that I was trans yet.
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  I was still like a little lesbian in school.
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  And this person was a safe space for me.
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  Awesome librarian really introduced me to some profound
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  awesome books, right? And that like provided
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  confidence and safety for my mind, my body and my spirit,
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  right? And I grew up, I started doing
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  nightlife work in Atlanta. I started doing dragon Atlanta.
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  So and like 20 like 22 now at at this point and I meet the same
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  person at a bar and realize this is my old librarian.
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  We get to talking and I find out that she has for like decades,
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  nightlife as a dominatrix. That's so.
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  And made way more money as a dominatrix as she ever did as a
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  librarian. Oh, 100% for sure, you know, but
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  she. Never knew.
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  But I never knew. She kept it separate.
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  Exactly. I never knew she was so modest
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  and she was so kind and, and you, you just never expect
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  something like that from from this image of a person that I
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  experienced in school. So I think this teacher, if he
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  would have, if it wouldn't have been uncovered, which by the
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  way, I think a right wing, a group or organization or
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  something uncovered it. They kind of revealed him,
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  right? Wing Publication.
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  Alpha News Minnesota. Yeah, so if maybe if you 'cause
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  my father used to say. Don't they like that?
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  My dad used to say. Yeah.
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  I do, my dad used to say oho Cano vecora song Cano siente
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  heart. Eyes that do not see the heart
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  will not feel OK. So in other words, if your eyes
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  don't see it then it's good. So the revealing of it is what
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  messed everything up for him. 'Cause there's some people.
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  Cause 'cause we live, 'cause we live in a very conservative
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  country, Sadly, not everybody, but there's a lot of people that
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  would be weirded out you. Think you have to be
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  conservative to be a good teacher?
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  No, I don't think so. I think I'll.
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  And I'm sure there's a lot of teachers I know that have kinks.
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  I'm sure of it 'cause I dated teachers.
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  Oh, I do. Too.
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  I feel bad for him. 'Cause I think he's probably a
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  really good man. And naturally just experiences
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  there, there's a, there's a space of privacy and of safety,
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  of confidence that's supposed to happen in those experiences.
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  Yeah, I've, I've worked with, with fetish communities and the
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  BDSM community. I've worked and and there's
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  different. Like as my partner.
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  Right. And, and there's so much consent
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  that has to happen and so much respect that has to happen in
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  communities like that. So for him to be to have been
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  violated in a space where he thought he was going to be safe,
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  I hope for his sake that he signed an NDA.
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  It's really weird because Minnesota is a very progressive
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  state, so I'm very surprised. The thing about these sort of
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  situations, it's not locals a lot of the time that will go
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  ahead and contact these school districts.
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  A lot of the times it's these these conservative individuals
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  from other states sending in complaint emails, putting fire.
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  Yeah, exactly. So honestly, at the end of the
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  day, I don't really give a shit whether or not you wear leather
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  if you can teach well. And this person, somebody going
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  ahead and being teacher of the year, being nominated to be
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  teacher of the year, clearly he was doing fucking well.
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  Yeah, clearly he was qualified. Yeah.
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  So this man should still have this nomination.
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  And he's the later. The district later confirmed he
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  is no longer working. So they don't work the district.
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  Yeah, they don't know if they don't know if he stepped down or
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  if he was asked to step down. Probably asked to step down.
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  I hope he won another. Competition like if they're.
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  All. Guys, I hope people then, yeah,
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  they probably asked him to step down from that position.
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  I I, you know, I was, I just wouldn't put myself like right
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  now. I.
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  Think you're thinking too much into it though.
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  Yeah, I do, but I do think 'cause I'm worried.
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  Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's my
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  background. You, you, but you nailed it.
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  It is a protection mechanism, right, 'cause of my of my kids.
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  But. Just like you had a safe space
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  with your librarian, you had no clue because there was a level
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  of privacy. But also correct, she was a good
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  person, right? It doesn't make you a bad person
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  just 'cause you have a a social life outside of.
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  Your work, your private life. I can't.
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  I mean, you know, like anybody else.
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  Yeah, I can't. I understand the layer of
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  protection, though, as a trans man as and, and as a business
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  owner. I, there's a line where we, that
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  I don't touch with guests and clients, you know, and there
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  once and I've, I've lost clients with them finding out who and
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  what I am. So there's, I, I don't touch
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  that. Very unfortunate.
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  And mind you, this is something that this happened.
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  The images came from a 2019 contest.
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  It was not even 20. Something like 6 years.
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  He even relevant. So he may not even be doing that
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  anymore, right? That's.
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  Shameful. That could have been a past
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  life. But even if he is doing it, it's
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  not. Wrong.
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  There's no shame in it. He's not.
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  He's not doing anything against. Children, he's not, you know,
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  he's not a disgusting person. He's just a person.
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  If I'm going to be honest, I distinctly remember a lot of
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  male teachers staring down the shirts of my female colleagues,
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  and those people are the people that I'm more disgusted and I
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  want out of our schools as opposed to somebody putting on
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  leather. At the end of the fucking day.
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  You can walk around with them, walk around with a pup hood and
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  all that fucking shit in your free time.
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  You don't get fucking paid a lot.
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  How can we go ahead and dictate how you live your life outside
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  of school if you don't even get paid a living wage?
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  Yeah. And kind of going back to you, I
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  understand like when the like where you're coming from and
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  everything, but at the same time you kind of have to, you know,
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  understand that they're not going in and saying, hey, you
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  should wear leather and you should do all these things.
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  They're just doing it in their private life, so.
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  I know you're saying. You think?
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  Like coming from that background, you think like, oh,
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  it's being pushed on my children, but it's actually not,
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  you know? You know, it's definitely not
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  being pushed, you know? Well, it doesn't even say.
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  I think I'm, I'm harsh on myself, so I think I'm harsh on
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  other people. Does that make sense?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So I'm really hard. I'm really hard.
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  I'm really hard. On I can relate to that.
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  I'm hard on myself, so I'm thinking, well, if I if I'm not
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  gonna do that, then you know what I mean, 'cause let's face
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  it, let's let's say that I was a teacher, OK, so I do drag at
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  night. Yeah, but what the hell does
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  that have to do with my students?
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  Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make me a, it doesn't
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  make me a dangerous person. No, I'm not the scary bula
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  monster hiding in the closet. Rated correct, You know what I'm
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  saying. Yeah.
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  I think it's almost like I'm trying to make it that the
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  reason I wouldn't do it is because I wouldn't want someone
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  to bring it to light and shame me publicly.
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  So that's the reason I'm thinking he should not have done
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  it. But he wasn't even doing
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  anything wrong. He did nothing.
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  It was in his private life. You come in full circle.
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  I love. Well, yeah, This is why, Well,
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  This is why the military said there was a protection
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  mechanism. Something kind of click.
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  A dead click. And This is why having these
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  group conversations is therapeutic, you know what I
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  mean? And and your story and your
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  story been clicked as well, 'cause that teacher that you
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  would have never thought you. Just need a little perspective
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  sometimes. Yeah.
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  And you know, honestly. I went oh.
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  Shit, honestly, drag culture taught me duality.
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  So like, 'cause I've, I've worked with a lot of different
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  church organizations and I work profoundly in custom in like I
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  used to work a lot in retail and profoundly in community service,
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  right? And I still do now, but in the
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  community service aspect. But drag taught me duality.
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  Drag taught me I could go to church and I could go entertain,
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  you know, and, and it still, it didn't change the fact that I
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  was a good person. It didn't change the fact.
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  I always get mad when people go, well, you, you believe in God?
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  I go, yeah. Same same same.
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  It's like you're shocked that someone that's trans or does
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  drag or whatever would it would be a person.
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  That believes in God, right? It's always the people that want
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  like equality and like, you can believe whatever you want and
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  all this stuff, but they're like, wait, why do you believe
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  in God? And it's like, well, that's the
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  whole point. It's like we can believe
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  whatever we. Want and do whatever, right?
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  Right. There is AI do think that there
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  is a congruence and also a separation between understanding
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  queerness and equality and understanding faith.
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  It's not the same for everybody, and not everybody calls it God,
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  but I think it's awesome to. Be Call it the universe, it must
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  call it Buddha. Some others, yeah.
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  But say God as a term. Too sometimes.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  I don't think that it's impossible to believe in
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  equality and also have faith. Yeah, I don't think that, no.
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  But that's cool. Yeah, I don't like this story,
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  to be honest. It's a.
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  Complicated. But listen, it's a good
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  conversation that we're having and.
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  I hope he goes to, I hope he goes to a pup competition, like
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  a pup pageant, a leather pageant, and I hope he wins and
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  I hope he reigns for a whole year.
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  I feel like I bro just by having this conversation.
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  I hope that the leather community has embraced him.
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  I hope that I don't. I, I mean, I'm not the
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  community. I'm no longer on social media,
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  so I can't see anything. So I don't know.
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  I just like that. Like that?
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  I'm sorry. Chris is being traumatized by
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  these people. He is going through it I.
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  Don't know what life is like anymore anyways, as May so the
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  demo a Democratic pack is to invest over $20 million into
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  Florida congressional races this year.
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  The spending is going to target several Republican held seats,
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  including districts represented by Corey Mills, Anapolina Luna,
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  Laurel Lee, Maria, Elvira Salazar and Carlos Jimenez.
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  Anapolina Luna is actually my representative and I've had the
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  pleasure to talk to a couple of the different people that are
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  trying to go ahead and go against her.
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  And honestly, I think that there's some really good
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  candidates. I really hope that they they can
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  figure out some some good stuff can figure it out.
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  But of the total, 9,000,000 is going to be an earmarked from
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  for Miami, including 2.3 million for Spanish language
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  advertising. Republicans currently hold 20 of
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  Florida's 28 congressional seats and are looking to expand.
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  So Esme, what's the what? What's your opinion?
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  Well, I think it's good. I'm I'm all for expansion, I'm
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  all for everybody being a participant, I'm all for voting,
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  I'm all for everything. It says this marks the first
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  major influx of National Democratic money into Florida
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  since Nikki Freed became state party chair in 2020.
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  Three, I think that's good. I think it's going to change
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  things. I really hope that we get to
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  move on from Nikki Freed, to be honest.
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  I love her to death. But, you know, the fact that she
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  is the, she's been the Democratic, you know, party
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  leader in Florida for so long. And she's not really done much.
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  And we haven't gotten any other people elected other than her.
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  I just, I would like to see other Democrats elected.
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  Good for you, Nikki. I'm proud of you.
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  Like, I'm glad that you you broke that ceiling.
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  She did great. Yeah.
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  And kudos for. Stepping up to it too.
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  Absolutely, and I would never want to negate that.
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  But if you can't handle the job, it's time to fucking move on.
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  Let's go ahead and do something anyways.
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  It's. Time for other people to step up
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  too, so. Give somebody else a chance,
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  right? New perspective, new
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  perspective, right? Give somebody else a chance to
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  kind of see what they can do with it right now.
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  What's your perspective over there?
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  You guys are going ahead and being a little bit too quiet for
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  my for my liking. A.
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  Lot of listening I listen. I don't have too much a chime in
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  on that. I think it's great, but I, I'm,
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  I'm not I, I don't know enough about it really.
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  No, it's OK. I respect that.
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  See, that's I love you for being honest.
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  Yeah, I definitely, you know, politics do affect me.
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  I, I'm very political, but I, I just don't know specifically
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  locally what's going on. Yes, I just know when and where
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  I need to be to vote. Good, that is Well, that's the
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  best. That's all you need to know.
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  That's all you need to know. As the regular voter, as the
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  regular individual, you won't necessarily.
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  Need to go vote. That's what people need to do.
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  Exactly. And I just I think it's a really
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  good thing that we finally got money to spend in Florida.
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  You know, it's, it's, I always like to say money doesn't win
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  elections, but it certainly fucking helps.
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  Certainly sure as shit. Everyone wants to come here
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  where they don't want to support.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  Miss Esme, what's the T? Yeah, well, you want me to do
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  another one? Yeah, we got time.
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  So a child's party balloon? Oh.
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  I got to hear this. This is Jordan.
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  Has burned down more homes. One balloon I saw this then any
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  then all the fires that they've had in Georgia history.
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  Okay, this one balloon hit an electrical power cord which set
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  off a series of fires throughout the countryside of Georgia.
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  It has now burned down 87 homes to the ground. 7500 acres of
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  land. Yeah.
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  Whoa, is everybody OK? Right.
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  That's the question, yeah. Like.
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  So far, no death. No deaths, right, But a?
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  Lot of loss of. Property.
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  OK. I mean, it is, it is, it is made
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  of Georgia history as the biggest fire in Georgia.
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  Maybe we could use this to kind of like, help advocate like, no
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  more balloon releases. You know, we lost 87 homes.
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  Can we stop? Animals.
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  Eating the earth with these balloons.
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  So, Esme, yeah, I will answer you that yes, animals will go
• 18:33
  ahead and eat them, specifically turtles.
• 18:35
  They will go ahead and fall. They will start to sink into the
• 18:39
  water and the turtles will mistake them as Jelly jellyfish
• 18:42
  and I have any time that I'm out on the boat.
• 18:46
  I have a little bag that I use to pick up any types of plastic,
• 18:51
  but it's majority. Balloons.
• 18:53
  That's just terrible. So I I think and it's almost.
• 18:56
  Like a memorial. I don't believe I hate to the.
• 18:59
  I know that's so real. I hate to say this, but we
• 19:02
  outlaw so many things, we really should just outlaw them out.
• 19:05
  I think that I can't. Make the bio deer memorial.
• 19:08
  Create biodegradable balloons. If I remember.
• 19:11
  Correctly, that would be the option.
• 19:13
  If I remember correctly, it is illegal to go ahead and and
• 19:16
  release a balloon. It's just not really that
• 19:18
  enforced because it's hard to go ahead and do it.
• 19:20
  They're hard to. Pinpoint that.
• 19:21
  Yeah. Where did it come from?
• 19:23
  Right, right. And people do it behind in their
• 19:25
  backyards. They do it from their homes like
• 19:27
  it's. How can you say that?
• 19:29
  Do you know what? Area, I don't know.
• 19:31
  I didn't. I didn't get to say the coaster.
• 19:34
  But it's, it's in, it's internal Georgia.
• 19:36
  Brantley County, So Hwy. 82. Yeah.
• 19:42
  So, Vin, I don't know. Are you a soccer fan?
• 19:47
  You know, I like to play it more than I like to watch the sport.
• 19:50
  Yeah, I'm not I'm not really a soccer fan, but I kind of want
• 19:53
  to get your guys's perspective on this a little bit more.
• 19:56
  So a individual was held given a six match ban for anti-gay
• 20:01
  conduct against another player, Viniscus Junior, during their
• 20:07
  Champions Champions League match in.
• 20:09
  February the veniscus went ahead and accused the player of saying
• 20:18
  mono, which is Spanish for monkey but then went ahead and
• 20:24
  it actually went ahead and came out that he called Veniscus the
• 20:28
  anti-gay slur and I I don't know if you guys are familiar with
• 20:34
  this maricon which which. Translates into faggot, yeah.
• 20:40
  Yeah, so and under the what what I love about the UAEFAUEFAI
• 20:48
  think I said that right the first time.
• 20:50
  Both racist and anti-gay abuse is the same.
• 20:56
  So so you saying oh I wasn't racist, I was homophobic?
• 21:00
  It doesn't really clear exactly. It doesn't really clear your
• 21:05
  case. Yourself here.
• 21:06
  So I want to so I'm not familiar with that terminology.
• 21:11
  Mono is monkey. Yeah, I know mono I was talking
• 21:14
  about it's pronounced. Mole.
• 21:16
  Mono. Mono.
• 21:17
  Mono, mono Mono not mono, but. Mono Mono, I was gonna.
• 21:21
  Say yeah, no, mono. Is that kissing?
• 21:22
  Mono's, yeah. Mono no more.
• 21:26
  Soy gringo, anyway. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:28
  Just just so you know, it's just just to pronounce you mono,
• 21:32
  Yeah. So but the other word.
• 21:34
  I Mariko. Mariko means faggot.
• 21:37
  So it's so it's a bad word. Yes, it's a very bad word.
• 21:40
  Even in Spanish it's a bad word. I hear it, my head turns around.
• 21:43
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, to a point that they don't
• 21:46
  say it to each other, yeah. So now we say it.
• 21:49
  No, we do say it in dressing rooms to each other as a like.
• 21:54
  Like I'm gonna. Use it jokingly.
• 21:55
  So I'm gonna use. So I'm gonna use it in a
• 21:57
  sentence. I'm gonna use it in Spanish 1st
• 21:59
  and then I'll do it in English. I'll go.
• 22:00
  Oh, you say Marigon, Calinda say way.
• 22:02
  Yeah, that bag it looks. Beautiful.
• 22:04
  Yeah, so. But you have to but I, I make
• 22:06
  it, you have to be like really good with them.
• 22:08
  We're. Talking about it amongst the
• 22:09
  family, right? It's like the N word, OK?
• 22:13
  I always tell people, don't use it ever.
• 22:15
  If you're not, I'm black, don't use it, period.
• 22:19
  I don't want to hear well, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm cute.
• 22:21
  I don't care. If you're not a black skin,
• 22:25
  don't use it right, ever. I don't care if it's in your
• 22:29
  favorite rap song, I don't care. I don't care.
• 22:32
  Just don't use it. It's not that difficult to
• 22:35
  understand. And don't ask, well, why can
• 22:38
  they use it? They're black, they can use it's
• 22:41
  the whether it makes you weird or not.
• 22:43
  We do the same thing with big fag word.
• 22:46
  You know listen, we'll call each other fags.
• 22:48
  But let me tell you, if you go into a gay club and a straight
• 22:51
  person says that word girl, y'all gonna see the surprise of
• 22:54
  your life when when all them gay men I'm telling you it's
• 23:00
  Showtime at the Apollo girl, I'm telling you.
• 23:04
  So I got one more follow up question on that.
• 23:06
  What is your guy's reaction for the anti-gay slurs?
• 23:10
  Is being treated as the same as the racist slurs?
• 23:13
  I think it's good. I think it's a good thing.
• 23:17
  I think I hate is I like Who said hate is hate?
• 23:20
  Hate, hate is hate. It's exactly correct.
• 23:22
  Real quick, TikTok could not handle our conversations right
• 23:25
  now and just turned off my live because we were talking about
• 23:28
  hate speech. Why?
• 23:30
  You're gonna get banned. I think I am straight to.
• 23:36
  Jail could not handle the heat. Couldn't handle the heat.
• 23:40
  That's crazy. That is welcome to the club,
• 23:43
  Vin. That's.
• 23:44
  So crazy. What a Oh my.
• 23:46
  Gosh, and we were talking about anti hate.
• 23:50
  That's. So funny it's.
• 23:51
  The word is. It probably just like.
• 23:53
  Anti Yeah, and then they take you off.
• 23:56
  This is crazy. I mean, we were using a gay
• 23:58
  anti-gay. So here's another little story.
• 24:01
  Yeah, Michael, a cat. A cat is dead after an Amazon
• 24:07
  driver steals the pet off the owner's porch while delivering
• 24:11
  package. Is this a local story?
• 24:13
  I feel like this is a local. Is this Florida?
• 24:15
  It was. It's gotta be Florida.
• 24:17
  It was not local pet, but pet. The family says that it would.
• 24:21
  The cameras caught it from the side, I guess the neighbors when
• 24:25
  she couldn't figure out where her cat was, the neighbors
• 24:28
  looked on their cameras which I want to ask the neighbors why is
• 24:31
  your camera put it at her porch her.
• 24:34
  Why? I mean, thank goodness.
• 24:35
  Breaking News Breaking News Vince Suasion has been banned
• 24:40
  from going until May 1st. Starting from May 1st he always
• 24:51
  says you own us as you can go live and join as a live guest
• 24:53
  starting May 1st. So until May 1st I'm made OK.
• 24:57
  You're in time. They just put baby in the
• 25:01
  corner. So I thought of Chris when I saw
• 25:03
  the the article about the cat. Only because you know Chris.
• 25:06
  Chris has cats, right? Yes, so your.
• 25:09
  Cats don't wander in the front yard and all.
• 25:10
  That no so the only one that goes ahead and and goes outside
• 25:14
  is Conrad, the big fat large one.
• 25:17
  And he, he. Always.
• 25:18
  Comes back he and well, no, he doesn't actually go outside.
• 25:22
  So when I when I'm going out and loading up my car with my bag,
• 25:25
  like, 'cause I got that big. Follows you out there.
• 25:27
  He goes ahead and he comes out there.
• 25:29
  He'll sit on the porch and start munching on grass, but he won't.
• 25:33
  Like he doesn't usually go into the actual grass itself.
• 25:36
  He stays on the concrete. And while I load up my car, he
• 25:40
  just sits there and just kind of watches everything.
• 25:43
  And then when I come back, he immediately runs back inside.
• 25:46
  And if he doesn't, he'll just kind of sit there, keep eating
• 25:50
  grass. And Sean taught him the words
• 25:53
  kennel up and he moves. He goes immediately inside.
• 25:57
  If someone tried to steal him, they just hurt their back so
• 26:00
  they put him back down. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 26:02
  But the kid, the cat is fucking fast.
• 26:06
  I've had him, I've had him got. So I took him to Bel Air once to
• 26:10
  visit some other cats that he was living with.
• 26:13
  And that was not a good idea. But and he eventually he started
• 26:16
  running like he got out and he ran from car to car and I'm
• 26:22
  chasing him. I'm like, you're fast as fuck,
• 26:24
  man. I didn't realize.
• 26:26
  So this cat, this cat that was kidnapped, he was a senior cat,
• 26:31
  which makes it even sadder because while he was in
• 26:34
  captivity, he died. That's so sad.
• 26:37
  So they couldn't even get their cat back.
• 26:39
  So they've been, so they've been.
• 26:41
  So they've been sending messages to Amazon and Amazon is
• 26:44
  responding with what we're investigating it.
• 26:48
  But you know, you know, last week I told the story of the
• 26:51
  Amazon worker that died on the on the line while he was loading
• 26:55
  up packages. Yeah, he was loading up packages
• 26:58
  and he died. And the other Amazon workers,
• 27:02
  we're told, do not offer assistance, just leave him on
• 27:05
  the floor. Only a man only management team
• 27:08
  can do any kind of reviving. For liability.
• 27:11
  Somebody told me I can. So he.
• 27:13
  Performed first aid to somebody. So he laid on the floor for you
• 27:17
  know who knows how long until. Sounds crazy.
• 27:20
  I know. And they just had to watch him
• 27:22
  and the man died there. And, you know, they had to
• 27:24
  continue to work even with the dead body there until they came
• 27:28
  to pick up the body. So they didn't even say like
• 27:31
  move this moved from this air. So the conveyor belts were just
• 27:34
  moving along. And I'm thinking somebody
• 27:35
  would've had a hold, you know, Amazon.
• 27:37
  Amazon would've. Had hold me back.
• 27:38
  You need to do some work. Because I would not too.
• 27:41
  Worried about liability there too.
• 27:43
  Worried. Liability.
• 27:45
  Somebody died just. That is a liability, yeah.
• 27:50
  Anyway, we got a break coming up.
• 27:52
  Yeah, So what are we going to talk about after the break,
• 27:53
  Misasmin? We'll talk about identical
• 27:55
  twins. We're fatally something.
• 27:58
  I'll tell you what it is. Girl, what a mess.
• 28:00
  And I got. I call her Malaria, but I don't
• 28:04
  know if that's her name. Malaria.
• 28:05
  And Donald Trump. I don't even know what her name
• 28:07
  is anymore. I've been calling her Malaria
• 28:09
  for years. Is it malaria?
• 28:10
  Is it malaria disease? We just call her failed sugar
• 28:13
  baby. Anyway, malaria and Donald Trump
• 28:17
  asked for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired over some hateful stuff
• 28:22
  that they said that Jimmy Kimmel said the problem is.
• 28:25
  That can leave this. Can we write a list of things
• 28:28
  that Donald says that are hateful?
• 28:30
  Right. I mean man, God, man.
• 28:32
  Can we fire him? The ego.
• 28:34
  That's the question. That's just a few of them.
• 28:37
  Is the ego just so fragile? Anyway, we'll be right back,
• 28:40
  right? Yeah, we got all that and more.
• 28:43
  I got a Palm Harbor man who is a rested after he did something to
• 28:48
  the Scientologists. We're going to go ahead.
• 28:51
  We're going to talk about that after the break.
• 28:53
  But first, let's go ahead and throw it over to Claire Leeson
• 28:55
  from Project No Labels for our big gay news.
• 28:58
  Then our community calendar. Joe on the go from Joanna
• 29:01
  Grasso. We'll be right back.
• 29:06
  I'm Claire Leeson from Project No Labels and this is your LGBTQ
• 29:09
  plus news from around the country and right here in Tampa
• 29:12
  Bay in Orlando from West. No charges will be filed against
• 29:16
  six people arrested for using chalk to repaint the Post
• 29:20
  Memorial Crosswalk. The rainbow crosswalk honored
• 29:22
  the 49 lives lost in the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting, but it
• 29:26
  was removed overnight in August 2025 under a directive requiring
• 29:30
  roadways to be free of what officials called distractions or
• 29:33
  political messages. After its removal, protesters
• 29:37
  used chalk to recreate the rainbow.
• 29:38
  State Attorney Monique Worrell says the arrest that followed
• 29:41
  amounted to selective enforcement, noting that some
• 29:44
  individuals were detained while others, including public
• 29:47
  officials, were not. Orrell also said there was no
• 29:50
  evidence of property damage, calling it a cleaning operation,
• 29:54
  not a damage remediation, and ultimately declined to file
• 29:57
  charges. Also in Orlando from Watermark
• 29:59
  Out News, Anthem Orlando is facing a 30 day suspension
• 30:03
  impacting its hours of operation following issues to a third
• 30:07
  party security vendor. Owner Mike Visarca says the
• 30:10
  vendor failed to follow proper protocols on one evening and was
• 30:14
  immediately terminated. The venue has since brought in a
• 30:17
  new security company and says safety remains its top priority.
• 30:21
  Under the suspension, alcohol sales must stop at midnight,
• 30:24
  followed by a structured closing timeline.
• 30:26
  Anthem is now working with the city to revise its mitigation
• 30:30
  plan after previous proposals were denied.
• 30:33
  In Florida State News, also from Watermark, Governor Ron DeSantis
• 30:36
  has signed new legislation targeting diversity, equity and
• 30:39
  inclusion efforts at the local level.
• 30:41
  The law, said to take effect in January 2027, will prohibit
• 30:45
  local governments from funding or promoting DEI related
• 30:49
  initiatives, eliminate inclusion officer roles and give the state
• 30:53
  authority to remove officials found in violation.
• 30:56
  Advocates warned the measure could impact community events
• 30:58
  like Pride, while some local leaders are already signaling
• 31:02
  legal challenges. And finally, in sports from
• 31:04
  ESPNUEFA has issued A6 match ban to Benfica's Gianluca Priestiani
• 31:11
  for anti-gay conduct during a Champions League match against
• 31:15
  the Real Madrid. Three of those matches are
• 31:18
  suspended, meaning he is expected to miss two additional
• 31:21
  games beyond a provisional suspension already served.
• 31:24
  The incident followed A confrontation with Vincius
• 31:27
  Junior, who initially reported racist abuse.
• 31:30
  However, Cristiani later admitted using an anti-gay slur
• 31:34
  instead. Under UEFA rules, both racist
• 31:37
  and anti-gay abuse fall under the same disciplinary framework.
• 31:41
  Please remember to stay safe and treat yourself and others with
• 31:43
  kindness. This has been your LGBTQ plus
• 31:46
  news for the Big Gay radio show. I'm Claire Leeson on 88.5 WMNF
• 31:50
  Tampa. Hey Tampa Bay, it's Joanna
• 31:57
  Grosso with Joe on the Go Tampa Bay, your weekly guide to what's
• 32:01
  happening around the city. Here's what's coming up this
• 32:03
  week. Starting on Saturday, May 1st
• 32:05
  and 2nd, Cocktail Saint Pete is hosting a Dirty John's Fairy
• 32:09
  Tale. It's an interactive show within
• 32:11
  limited seating, so if you're looking for something a little
• 32:14
  different and more immersive, this is definitely one to plan
• 32:16
  ahead for. Then on Sunday, May 3rd, head
• 32:19
  over to Ybor for the 2020 Sixth Mix Saint Pete Pride at 1920
• 32:24
  Ybor. This event celebrates
• 32:26
  creativity, self-expression, and talent within the community as
• 32:30
  contestants take the stage for a night that's all about
• 32:32
  individuality and artistry. Looking ahead, on Saturday, May
• 32:36
  16th, the Equality of Florida's Saint Pete Gala returns to the
• 32:40
  Saint Petersburg Coliseum with this year's theme, Rainbow
• 32:43
  Disco. This annual event brings
• 32:45
  together community leaders, supporters, and advocates for a
• 32:48
  night that includes full dinner, awards program, and celebration
• 32:51
  supporting LGBTQ plus initiatives across the state.
• 32:55
  For more information behind the scenes and weekly updates,
• 32:58
  follow along on Instagram at Joe on the Go Tampa Bay.
• 33:02
  Have a great week, Tampa Bay, and I'll see you out and about.
• 33:09
  You're listening to the only LGBTQ radio show in Tampa Bay,
• 33:13
  The Big Gay Radio Show on 88.5 WMNF.
• 33:19
  Welcome back to the Big Gay After Show.
• 33:21
  My name is Chris Gorman. I'm your show twink here, joined
• 33:23
  by the vivacious Vince Suasion, the trans queen of radio, Miss
• 33:27
  Esme Russell, Jesse Harley, Danielle from Incan Lace.
• 33:32
  Welcome in the studio, everybody.
• 33:34
  Thank. You.
• 33:34
  Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 33:36
  Thank you guys so much. I'm going live on my Instagram.
• 33:41
  One fails, another one open. Exactly.
• 33:44
  Well, Miss Esme, let's talk about malignant tumor.
• 33:47
  I mean Melania Trump. I'll tell.
• 33:52
  You what? She got a rude awakening the
• 33:53
  other day when they pushed her to the ground and took Trump
• 33:56
  away and left her on the ground. They really did.
• 33:58
  I was. I couldn't understand.
• 34:00
  I hate to be that guy, but. They just left her there.
• 34:04
  What do you expect? I mean, she's not the president.
• 34:06
  She's not the person that they're going to protect.
• 34:09
  So his first lady Malaria. Trump is asking for ABC to fire
• 34:13
  Jimmy Kimmel over his hateful language on Monday after the
• 34:17
  liberal late night host referred to her as an expected widow.
• 34:20
  He meant because he's bad in health though.
• 34:23
  Yes, he's bad in. Health He's old and decrepit.
• 34:26
  Kibbles hate more. Dementia.
• 34:28
  Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide
• 34:32
  our country. No malaria.
• 34:34
  That's not what's dividing. Our country.
• 34:36
  What's dividing our country is when he insults journalists
• 34:40
  while they're trying to ask him valid questions.
• 34:42
  What divides our country is his threats to other foreign leaders
• 34:47
  and other countries. That's what divides our country.
• 34:49
  What divides our country is his hateful commentary about people
• 34:53
  of different races and different cultures, in particular black
• 34:57
  people and Latinos. He has a particular hatred
• 34:59
  towards them. So I could write to a list of
• 35:02
  things that divide our country. The fact that he can go on and
• 35:07
  be charged with sexual assault and be convicted for it and
• 35:12
  still become president. Any one of us in this room, if
• 35:15
  we had sexual assault on our resume, we would not be able to
• 35:21
  get a job, OK? It would be we have to be
• 35:25
  cleaning bathrooms or doing something that, you know what
• 35:28
  I'm saying, not president. As a felon, it is hard to get a
• 35:32
  job. He has a he's he has been
• 35:34
  convicted not only of that, but he's also been convicted of of
• 35:39
  what is it charity fraud, stealing million him and his
• 35:43
  sons millions and millions of dollars not allegedly.
• 35:46
  That's that's a fact from New York.
• 35:49
  In New York City, he can't even run a charity.
• 35:52
  My favorite was when he went on 60 Minutes just this past week
• 35:57
  and the the reporter was asking about the manifesto that the the
• 36:03
  shooter went ahead and released. And she talked about how he
• 36:07
  mentioned that he wouldn't be a a hand in his crimes and his
• 36:11
  like sex crimes, correct? Or something along those lines
• 36:14
  that he would and that he was a rapist.
• 36:15
  And a pedophile or? No, the administration.
• 36:18
  No, the administration, let's make that clear, never mentioned
• 36:21
  Trump. Never mentioned Trump by name.
• 36:23
  Nev did not. And then he they went ahead and
• 36:25
  he got offended. And then he starts defending
• 36:28
  himself and starts saying I'm not a rapist.
• 36:31
  Telling on himself. He said that he was.
• 36:34
  He said that he was exonerated. That is a lie, yeah.
• 36:40
  No. He was not exonerated, OK, Not
• 36:43
  a. Sexual predator.
• 36:44
  Yeah, he was. He was convicted of sexual
• 36:46
  assault. The unfortunate thing about
• 36:48
  freedom of speech, though, is that he's not under oath, so he
• 36:51
  can lie so. He can lie, yeah.
• 36:53
  He's allowed to lie. I wouldn't put it past him to
• 36:55
  lie under oath, I mean. Ohh, he's delusional.
• 36:59
  Absolutely, absolutely. But once you go ahead and get
• 37:03
  called out on those lies and actually held into that court, I
• 37:08
  think that that would actually go ahead and and have some
• 37:11
  actual, you know, meaning. But I don't think we've actually
• 37:14
  gotten to that point. No, everybody looked past all
• 37:17
  the crimes and perjury is going to be the one where like, oh,
• 37:20
  that's the one. I'm going to say this about
• 37:22
  malaria cause Donald is also now joining in asking for the firing
• 37:25
  of Kimmel. Here's what I call her malaria.
• 37:28
  I don't know why I call her, but she kind of just kind of like.
• 37:30
  I called it malignant tumor but. Anyway, here's what I'm going to
• 37:32
  say about about all of this. We cannot, and I said this a
• 37:36
  couple of weeks ago. We had maybe it was last week
• 37:39
  when we had the comedian on here, the comic here, Jeff.
• 37:43
  Jeff, yes, I said we cannot start censoring people from
• 37:48
  their comedy. The comics scare me the most in
• 37:51
  the sense that there's a lot of comedy that offends me, but I
• 37:55
  don't want to silence that comedy.
• 37:56
  That's within yourself to deal with, yeah.
• 37:58
  OK, I don't want that comic to say, even though it offends me,
• 38:00
  you know what I do? I just change the channel.
• 38:02
  I don't listen to it, OK? It's offensive.
• 38:04
  I'm just not going to listen. To be a joke.
• 38:06
  OK, because, because to somebody it is funny.
• 38:09
  And if we're going to have a First Amendment, which is
• 38:11
  freedom of speech, then that's now Chris said something the
• 38:15
  that week too, that I loved. He said.
• 38:17
  We're we're free to speak, but we're not free from the
• 38:21
  consequences. Right, that's.
• 38:24
  True so when he said that I went right.
• 38:26
  I was so good when he added that on there, but I still want
• 38:29
  somebody to have that freedom. If you want to do that that's
• 38:32
  your joke. I don't I.
• 38:34
  Don't deal with the consequences I.
• 38:35
  Don't see, I don't see what Kimmel said as offensive.
• 38:38
  He was. He wasn't talking about killing
• 38:40
  anybody. It wasn't that.
• 38:42
  It wasn't a threat. It was just a comedy.
• 38:45
  It was just funny. And by the way, the.
• 38:46
  Compliment. She was glowing.
• 38:48
  The audience. Right.
• 38:50
  She's so much younger. Audio.
• 38:51
  The audience laughed. Right.
• 38:53
  The audience thought it was hilarious, you know, But you
• 38:56
  know, he's got liberal audiences, but.
• 38:58
  I love Jimmy. But I mean, they're so
• 38:59
  hilarious. It sounds like they're just so
• 39:01
  sensitive. Isn't that what they say about
• 39:03
  liberals? They say, oh, you're just so
• 39:04
  sensitive. Like you can't take a joke.
• 39:06
  That's crazy that you can dish it out.
• 39:08
  Call us. What is it?
• 39:10
  I forget that they have so many names for us, but.
• 39:14
  I like Levitard. Levitard is hard Levitard and I
• 39:19
  call them maggots. Yeah, that's so good.
• 39:21
  That's my favorite. That's.
• 39:22
  My favorite, so I swear to God that's pretty my most favorite
• 39:27
  one I've heard so far. I'm a levitard, yeah.
• 39:30
  I have to correct myself sometimes because that you
• 39:33
  rubbed off on me with that because I have to correct myself
• 39:36
  sometimes. I.
• 39:39
  Love. It well anyways.
• 39:41
  Esme, a 19 year old Palm Harbor man, was arrested after police
• 39:45
  say he fired a BB gun at a Scientology building in a in
• 39:49
  downtown Clearwater, shattering a glass window and alarming a
• 39:54
  nearby pedestrian. It happened about two 12:32 in
• 39:58
  the morning on April 20th. Investigators say he fired
• 40:02
  multiple rounds from a CO2 powered BB gun while driving a
• 40:07
  2019 Volkswagen Jetta. The shots had the apparently
• 40:12
  damaged the glass door, which has a repairs cost over $1000.
• 40:18
  He said that he targeted the building because he dislikes
• 40:22
  what the organization represents.
• 40:23
  He faces felony charges including throwing a deadly
• 40:27
  missile into a building, aggravated assault and criminal
• 40:31
  mischief. No injuries reported.
• 40:34
  It was a Glock 19X style CO2 powered weapon and the suspect
• 40:40
  turned it over voluntary. So I want to go ahead and get
• 40:42
  y'all's perspective. Look, it doesn't matter.
• 40:45
  It doesn't matter if they disagree.
• 40:47
  Violence is violent. I I don't agree.
• 40:50
  I don't agree. Scientology's great like I my
• 40:53
  opinion. That's not the way to handle it.
• 40:56
  Is not. It's not the way to handle.
• 40:58
  It's the same thing with the guy that went into the
• 40:59
  correspondence gender with the gun.
• 41:01
  No, that's not the way to handle.
• 41:02
  It not the way to handle it. Yeah, violence is violent
• 41:05
  violence. Is violent.
• 41:06
  I agree with Ben, but all the way.
• 41:07
  They were the ones who were walking around with guns back in
• 41:10
  the 70s and, you know, waving them around.
• 41:13
  The Scientologists. Yeah, Oh yeah, the
• 41:16
  Scientologists. Which two wrongs on the?
• 41:18
  Scientologists absolutely so many different have.
• 41:21
  You been to downtown Clearwater anytime?
• 41:23
  It is crazy. Don't stop.
• 41:25
  You might never be seen again. I I agree.
• 41:27
  With. You I agree I I have driven down
• 41:30
  there and. Scientologists have destroyed
• 41:34
  Clearwater's freedom. It is literally only
• 41:37
  Scientologists there it. Looks like, it looks like one of
• 41:41
  those movies where when you go down the street, what happened
• 41:43
  to all the people and then the people that are there, they're
• 41:47
  very zombie like. Yes.
• 41:49
  Yes, it's really You haven't been down there.
• 41:52
  That's because nobody downtown, nobody goes.
• 41:54
  Down scary. The downtown Low Clearwater
• 41:56
  area. Yeah, it's scary down.
• 41:58
  I remember back before can. You imagine, Can you imagine
• 42:01
  breaking down in downtown at night?
• 42:03
  No, I used to ride my bike through there, take it to
• 42:05
  Clearwater Beach for work, and one time at their main building
• 42:09
  there's all these people and they were frozen in motion and
• 42:11
  it freaked me the fuck out. But then I looked and there's a
• 42:15
  photographer. So they were doing this weird,
• 42:18
  like, let's walk up to the door and pretend you're opening the
• 42:20
  door. This guy's drinking coffee.
• 42:21
  But everybody was frozen in motion, and it scared the shit
• 42:23
  out of me. Yeah.
• 42:23
  But yeah, you just have to ride my bike through there.
• 42:25
  And I was like. I wouldn't.
• 42:26
  I'll tell you what, I wouldn't go there at night.
• 42:28
  I've seen photos of what that place looks like at night and
• 42:31
  there's no cars on the street. It looks like, you know, those
• 42:34
  Utopia, those what is it? No utopian but.
• 42:38
  You know how you walk those? Movies.
• 42:39
  Those movies where it looks. Like a zombie apartment.
• 42:41
  Yeah, 28. Days later, you woke up in
• 42:43
  every. Everything or like when you walk
• 42:45
  through I, I think of like those scenes when you walk through
• 42:48
  amusement parks where they make up the scenes and then you just
• 42:51
  walk through it. That's what I think of.
• 42:53
  I'm like. Really, really scared.
• 42:55
  Maybe that guy just ended up giving all his money to them,
• 42:57
  that's why he's pissed off and shooting on Windows.
• 43:00
  That's what happens. I mean, if it's a personal.
• 43:02
  Experience. Yeah, a personal experience
• 43:04
  happens very bad. But yeah, that's not the answer.
• 43:07
  But I mean, maybe we this will spark some like some actual.
• 43:11
  But I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you.
• 43:12
  I don't advise anybody to use weapons or knives or.
• 43:15
  Anything. No, no, no.
• 43:16
  You know what I mean? Don't do that stuff, man.
• 43:18
  You're just getting, you're just creating drama.
• 43:20
  And, and it all it does is it, it only helps them because they
• 43:24
  'cause they're gonna, the law's gonna protect them because
• 43:26
  they're, they're not there illegally.
• 43:28
  They're there. As an opportunity to be like,
• 43:30
  oh, Chris. They've literally bought up the
• 43:32
  entire downtown all those buildings belong to.
• 43:35
  Them, and that's why they have so much energy and so much power
• 43:39
  down there. They have property.
• 43:40
  Now they're in Eborn too, you know they're.
• 43:42
  Vampire y'all want to try to get?
• 43:43
  Rid of them, let's get some money.
• 43:45
  Let's make some money. Let's so.
• 43:46
  I would buy their building one time and I walked by and they
• 43:49
  came out and, and they, they were trying to like give me some
• 43:53
  pamphlets or whatever, some young kids.
• 43:56
  But they were like I said, listen, I'm a man in a dress.
• 43:58
  They turn around and walk. They did.
• 44:01
  They ran. They ran back inside, but I
• 44:04
  didn't speak. I said I'm a man in a dress.
• 44:06
  Yeah, they ran in soda. Probably said the same thing.
• 44:09
  You said it just like that. Yes, I'm a man in a dress.
• 44:12
  Leave me alone. Yeah, they ran inside.
• 44:14
  They were ran. They.
• 44:15
  Used that. Yeah, and then the security
• 44:18
  guard was? Gonna know, let's use it.
• 44:20
  Listen, this exactly. The security guard was looking
• 44:22
  through the window at me and stuff.
• 44:23
  It was like, I guess they ran inside and said there's some guy
• 44:25
  out there dressed up as a woman. I mean, it's crazy, but I just
• 44:30
  was scared. They scare me, they really do.
• 44:32
  They're very like those movies. Where has anybody seen the old
• 44:36
  Stepford Wives? I was thinking Stepford wives
• 44:39
  and he said it right onto this Oh.
• 44:41
  God, what a great movie. Robot.
• 44:43
  They all robot, that's what he looks.
• 44:45
  Like Esme, you're going to go ahead and get a new wig store
• 44:47
  coming into town. What is it called?
• 44:50
  Party City is making a comeback. 700 locations.
• 44:55
  I don't want kid no damn wig at Party City, but you know what
• 44:58
  they have Gray Halloween. Costumes.
• 45:01
  Well, there you go. I like party.
• 45:02
  City I did enjoy. Not their wigs though, Chris.
• 45:06
  It'll instead of standalone stores, Party City will operate
• 45:09
  as an in store experience inside Staples locations and online.
• 45:14
  There's one in Tarpon Springs already.
• 45:16
  Shoppers can expect balloons, decorations, banners, cards and
• 45:20
  other party supplies. Staples bought all their
• 45:22
  supplies. Basically.
• 45:25
  Well, honestly, I just wanted to make the joke about Esme's wigs.
• 45:29
  So here's a, here's a, here's a final one that I have, which is
• 45:32
  that. I got a lot more.
• 45:34
  I got identical twin brothers in Italy, 22 years old, were
• 45:39
  fatally electrocuted while we while retrieving a bird that had
• 45:43
  escaped from its cage. So they ended up grabbing the
• 45:47
  bird when they got up on the telephone pole.
• 45:51
  One of them touched the wire and when he started to get
• 45:53
  electrocuted, the other one was. Went to go grab him.
• 45:56
  To it to grab him and he got electrocuted too and they both
• 45:59
  died in. This terrible.
• 46:01
  I know. And they were like they, I guess
• 46:03
  they lived in a very small village in Italy.
• 46:06
  And then the mayor said that they were wonderful kids and
• 46:09
  that he had known them since they were little.
• 46:11
  And it's just so sad. And by the way, the photo of
• 46:14
  them, it's just beautiful. They're both beautiful boys.
• 46:16
  I mean, you could just. To be fair, I feel that though,
• 46:19
  I would definitely sacrifice my soul for an animal.
• 46:22
  But they. Probably weren't even thinking
• 46:23
  they were doing that, they just thought that they were going to
• 46:25
  be able to save the animal you. Know what a terror, what a
• 46:27
  tragic and I guess the cold community is like in mourning.
• 46:30
  But you know, in Italy, things like that have spiritual
• 46:33
  significance. I wouldn't imagine if they end
• 46:36
  up being like canonized or something in the near future as
• 46:39
  twin Saints. You know what I mean, 'cause I
• 46:42
  know that one boy that got old. Were they?
• 46:45
  22 years old. God, they were so young babies.
• 46:49
  Well, I got I got another story for you guys.
• 46:52
  So, and I, I'm going to go out and call back on something that
• 46:56
  I said last week in that the the renaming of the Trump high, the
• 46:59
  Trump, excuse me, President Donald J Trump highway that
• 47:03
  happened in South Florida was a little bit of a Trump's ego from
• 47:08
  Ron DeSantis totally called that.
• 47:10
  I called it because within two hours of us leaving the studio,
• 47:15
  Axios posts an article saying DeSantis is reportedly begging
• 47:21
  Donald Trump for a prime role in his administration, saying that
• 47:25
  he is apparently asking to be attorney general or possibly
• 47:29
  even a Supreme Court seat. So you might be seeing Supreme
• 47:34
  Court Justice De Santis coming up to the bench.
• 47:36
  Who knows? Goodness, please.
• 47:38
  But honestly? Acting Attorney.
• 47:40
  General Todd Blanche is currently in place and under
• 47:43
  pressure to prove himself within the 90 days that he's currently
• 47:46
  there. So who knows?
• 47:48
  And honestly doing this so he can get off from all of his
• 47:50
  wifes like crooked. Work so I, I am we, I worth the
• 47:54
  10 million. Dollars, it's busy.
• 47:56
  Exactly. We're still.
• 47:57
  Trying to answer that, and we're still trying.
• 47:59
  To figure out what happened to the 10 million.
• 48:01
  Dollars, OK, 'cause that's a lot of money that just comes up
• 48:04
  missing, right? So who's got it?
• 48:06
  Does she got it? Does he have it?
• 48:08
  She ended her, her, her campaign to be governor because of that
• 48:11
  scandal. Cause oh, but we're apparently,
• 48:14
  I mean, cause apparently she can't.
• 48:15
  Explain it volumes. So 'cause if I'm.
• 48:19
  Running for governor. I get accused of theft.
• 48:21
  I will just say, look, this is where the money's at.
• 48:23
  But apparently she hasn't been able to.
• 48:24
  I don't know what's where is it at?
• 48:26
  They sue up and answered it. Where's the money?
• 48:28
  Where's the money? That's a lot of money.
• 48:30
  Allegedly he's he's not. Seriously.
• 48:33
  Pursuing attorney general and this is according to some
• 48:35
  sources outside of this the the original source and the they're
• 48:40
  saying that he wants something related to defense or possibly
• 48:44
  the specifically the Supreme Court position.
• 48:47
  I'm going to be very honest with you.
• 48:49
  I know. Again, I can't believe I'm
• 48:50
  saying this. I'm going to play devil's
• 48:52
  advocate. He is more qualified.
• 48:56
  To be in any of those. Positions than the people that
• 48:59
  are currently in those positions right now.
• 49:01
  I feel that, and that's scary, that.
• 49:03
  Doesn't make me happy. But it is.
• 49:05
  True. And it is true.
• 49:06
  I'm so. Scary that I have to say.
• 49:08
  That, yeah. But it's the truth.
• 49:10
  It's scary that that's true, that is.
• 49:12
  The truth, yeah, that's the scary part.
• 49:14
  It's. The truth I.
• 49:16
  Mean it sucks. 'Cause there there's a couple.
• 49:19
  On the on the bench that have very good qualifications,
• 49:22
  Katanji Brown Jackson, Elena Kagan, as well as honestly and
• 49:27
  I, I know this is a little bit more controversial and in terms
• 49:29
  of certain things, but you know, Amy Coney Barrett has been
• 49:33
  consistently towing the constitutional line and staying
• 49:37
  towards that center ground. So there's a lot more smartness.
• 49:40
  She surprises me a lot. She has, really.
• 49:42
  Gone ahead and surprised me she. Surprises me a lot because I
• 49:45
  thought that her. Catholicism I did too.
• 49:48
  Was going to override. Genuinely thought she was going
• 49:51
  to be a Clarence. Thomas on the bench.
• 49:53
  She is not. She is absolutely not.
• 49:55
  And I. Knew that when When?
• 49:56
  The gay marriage thing came. When she said I cannot, I cannot
• 49:59
  do this, I I have taken a step back and I.
• 50:02
  Truly, you know, I, I should be critical of her a little bit.
• 50:06
  I I I don't want to deny the fact that I'm not critical of
• 50:09
  her, but she has definitely done substantially worse or excuse
• 50:13
  me, less damage than where I actually thought she was going
• 50:17
  to go. She's actually gone ahead and
• 50:19
  been that flip fog vote gay rights thing really shocked me.
• 50:22
  The gay marriage. Thing I it shocked me because,
• 50:25
  you know, she's so hardcore Catholic.
• 50:27
  I thought she's going to overturn it.
• 50:30
  She's just good. She said no, I'm not doing that
• 50:32
  well right now. I think the the total is about.
• 50:34
  Six. I've I've said it months from
• 50:36
  NPR, that was loud and live from NPR News.
• 50:41
  But I've said it multiple 60% of Donald Trump's executive orders
• 50:46
  that were pending court cases. He has lost.
• 50:49
  We have we have won 60% of the time.
• 50:51
  Yeah, yeah. So this court has been doing its
• 50:54
  job, generally speaking. Then you got people like
• 50:57
  Clarence Thomas and Alito who and and Kavanaugh, who, you
• 51:00
  know, kick rocks anyways. An appeals court has ruled that
• 51:05
  Trump's asylum ban at the border is illegal.
• 51:08
  He has. They have blocked Trump's
• 51:10
  executive order that suspended asylum across the access at the
• 51:14
  southern border, saying it violated US immigration law.
• 51:18
  The judges said the law clearly gives migrants the right to
• 51:21
  apply for asylum, and the president cannot override that
• 51:24
  authority on its own. The ruling centers on Donald
• 51:28
  Trump's 2025 ordered declaring the border situation an invasion
• 51:32
  and halting entry and asylum claims.
• 51:35
  So again, the courts have been, generally speaking, you know,
• 51:41
  fairly, fairly doing their thing.
• 51:43
  They're doing their thing, but. Again, this is an.
• 51:45
  Appeals court, this isn't the Supreme Court.
• 51:48
  So this is going to be appealed, most likely to the Supreme
• 51:50
  Court, which, you know, always is a question.
• 51:53
  But I genuinely have gotten at like, as time when Donald Trump
• 51:59
  got elected, Esme was very much, you know, convincing me a little
• 52:04
  bit more that this court system will not hold up the law.
• 52:10
  And as time goes on, I'm glad that I defended my mindset in
• 52:15
  saying that the courts will go ahead and prevail.
• 52:17
  The Constitution will prevail because throughout the entirety
• 52:20
  of the time, I've been, generally speaking, right.
• 52:23
  There's been times where I'm wrong.
• 52:24
  Yeah. No, but the court has held up.
• 52:26
  But the court. Has been holding up for the
• 52:28
  most. Part I would I I would have to
• 52:30
  agree. I was.
• 52:30
  Wrong. I and and I really feel like I
• 52:35
  really got. Researched with hope.
• 52:38
  When I saw the Hungarian people turn on Orbach, Victor Orbach,
• 52:42
  when I saw that, that's when I, I last week, a couple of weeks
• 52:47
  ago. And when I saw that I said OK,
• 52:50
  He did everything he could. He amended the, the
• 52:52
  constitution, he put judges in place to work.
• 52:56
  He had everything to work for him.
• 52:59
  And he still lost the election. 80% of the electorate came out
• 53:03
  and voted against him. And the man that was running
• 53:07
  against him, the one solitary man was not allowed to do TV
• 53:11
  interviews, was not allowed to do radio interviews, was not
• 53:15
  allowed to do newspapers interviews, was not allowed to
• 53:18
  do any kind of public square. Imagine that.
• 53:21
  So basically you, how do you do it?
• 53:23
  He had to go door to door to door person to door to door to
• 53:27
  door person and. That's how he was.
• 53:31
  He went door to freaking door representing your community, you
• 53:35
  know? And I said it's the Hungarian.
• 53:38
  People, after 16 years of fascism, authoritarianism,
• 53:42
  because that's what it was, can do this.
• 53:44
  We can do it. Yeah, OK.
• 53:47
  Because Donald Trump is not as far as Victor Orbach was, and he
• 53:50
  won't be. And he won't be right.
• 53:53
  The reason he. Won't be is because our courts
• 53:54
  are. Holding up correct and slowly
• 53:56
  people are waking. Up.
• 53:58
  Slowly, very slowly, I do see them.
• 54:00
  I do. See the.
• 54:01
  Magma movement? Well, they're only waking up
• 54:03
  because their bubbles. Are becoming disturbed.
• 54:06
  I feel a shift the tide. Definitely 100% people now
• 54:11
  they're saying that there's things happening that they
• 54:13
  actually. Right.
• 54:13
  So the people who thought that they were like.
• 54:16
  Invincible. It's not like you're watching
• 54:18
  the interruptions, my friends. Yeah.
• 54:20
  We have guests. We want them to talk.
• 54:22
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:22
  No, but I'm waiting. I I'm just happy that I.
• 54:25
  Know for a. Fact that I will see the fall
• 54:28
  and demise of Donald Trump in my lifetime.
• 54:31
  I will see his names, pride off of those buildings and I will
• 54:35
  see. I will see that in my lifetime,
• 54:37
  right? And that that's what keeps me
• 54:38
  going. Real shit.
• 54:40
  I don't care how they vote. For why they're voting, as long
• 54:43
  as the vote is done, You know what I'm saying?
• 54:46
  When these MAGA people go against Trump, a lot of people
• 54:50
  jump in and say, oh, it's 'cause they're, they're, I don't care.
• 54:52
  The reason, I'm just glad that they're going against him
• 54:55
  because for a long time they were supporting him.
• 54:58
  You know what I mean? It's blindly supported.
• 55:00
  Blindly. Then there's still a lot of
• 55:02
  blind Marjorie. Taylor Green was.
• 55:04
  The first. Break right.
• 55:05
  She was the first one that said, oh, this is that's crazy how all
• 55:09
  these women in that are. In office are all of a sudden
• 55:12
  being turned on they're like what sudden what hi yeah I
• 55:17
  thought they weren't for you that's.
• 55:19
  That video. Of the exit of that.
• 55:22
  Of that correspondents dinner. If anybody that watches that
• 55:24
  video and sees the women being left behind, it should be oh, I
• 55:27
  was so enraged it should tell you.
• 55:28
  Did anybody see? The woman in the diamond dress
• 55:30
  like. Crawling.
• 55:31
  On the floor like that was so sad.
• 55:34
  It breaks my heart because it really and.
• 55:37
  You would think that like the Secret Service would go ahead
• 55:40
  and have that priority to go ahead and also get the wives.
• 55:44
  But at the end of the day, their their job is the president,
• 55:47
  their job is get your point when you said that earlier.
• 55:49
  I get that. But at the same time, it just,
• 55:51
  it's still just a husband. I thought it was one of the
• 55:54
  Secret Service goes for husbands that I was like, there you go,
• 55:56
  I'd be. That's where my brain protector
• 55:58
  and a provider. That's where my.
• 56:00
  Brain went to be Secret Service. Now the husbands.
• 56:03
  Are there to the the husband's not having any reaction.
• 56:06
  And the, the cash Patel's hiding under the the the table right
• 56:09
  and it being reported that his wife was holding hands with
• 56:13
  another man. That's insane.
• 56:15
  That's cock behavior. And then hug and then we and
• 56:18
  then. We hit.
• 56:19
  A bar when he heard shots. And then?
• 56:21
  We have salad guy eating his cups.
• 56:25
  But he's. He's an icon.
• 56:27
  He really is the icon of the whole thing.
• 56:29
  And not a flinch. He just kept going and he kept
• 56:31
  staring at the stage while they're rushing.
• 56:34
  Did you guys see that photo? I can't remember who it was it.
• 56:36
  Was one. It was someone obviously in
• 56:38
  office. I can't remember who it was, but
• 56:40
  he was like holding his pregnant wife, Miller.
• 56:43
  Stephen Miller. Yeah.
• 56:43
  OK. I can't remember who it was
• 56:44
  usually her as a human shield. OK, so everybody was.
• 56:47
  Talking about that, but if you look in that.
• 56:48
  Photo in the background, you see Trump just standing behind.
• 56:51
  He's standing, Yeah, surrounded. They didn't take him to a.
• 56:54
  Bar yes. I'm still standing there.
• 56:56
  Watching everyone and I was like.
• 56:58
  I didn't care about that whole situation.
• 56:59
  He was trying to protect his wife.
• 57:01
  But like, yeah. And because everyone like, oh,
• 57:03
  he's using him as a shield. I'm like, I don't care about any
• 57:05
  of that. Look at Trump in the back.
• 57:07
  Just stand there and by himself, not surrounded by security, by
• 57:10
  the way. Yes.
• 57:11
  So the video of Trump. And de Santa, or excuse me, not
• 57:15
  de Santas. Trump and Vans.
• 57:17
  Literally shows Vance getting pulled away before Donald Trump.
• 57:21
  Yeah. And I think I thought that was.
• 57:23
  That was definitely very telling as well because I feel like like
• 57:27
  kind of a, I wonder when it comes.
• 57:29
  To that kind of stuff. I wonder who's really in charge
• 57:30
  now. So I keep saying.
• 57:32
  It and I'm going to continue to say it.
• 57:33
  Trump will not finish this term. Yeah, he will not.
• 57:38
  All the health experts say I. Believe that I've I wonder.
• 57:41
  I wonder who said it first? But I've already.
• 57:43
  Got my dress picked. Out.
• 57:46
  When he's gone, he will not make it.
• 57:47
  I don't think he'll make it. I do not.
• 57:49
  But the. Thing is, is like JD is younger.
• 57:51
  Just, I know. Yeah.
• 57:52
  Worse. That's what I've always said
• 57:54
  too, yeah. Yeah.
• 57:55
  Just and he's like the the face of Project 20. 25 so see we're
• 57:59
  not much better what I really don't like about Vance it's.
• 58:03
  Like flip flopping nature, one bad person at a time.
• 58:06
  Exactly. Yeah, is it's like it's.
• 58:08
  What you have to do, you have to take one day one.
• 58:10
  Day at a time, 1 bad person at a time, you got to deal with the
• 58:13
  one that we got right now and then once the other one then.
• 58:16
  So it's it's national superhero. Day right Then it was National
• 58:20
  Superhero Day. It is National Superhero Day I.
• 58:23
  Think the best example would. Be you know.
• 58:25
  Superheroes. They always have another villain
• 58:28
  to go after Yes yes. So I the the the.
• 58:31
  Battle for good. Doesn't go ahead and stop with
• 58:34
  Donald Trump. No, it goes ahead and, and not
• 58:36
  only that, I think that's a, a trap that a lot of people fell
• 58:41
  in that during the Confederacy, because they're the when, when
• 58:45
  the Confederates fell, they went ahead and didn't prosecute
• 58:49
  against the, the, the war criminals and the people who
• 58:53
  went ahead and, and betrayed the United States.
• 58:55
  They went ahead and just let them live.
• 58:57
  They just went ahead and let them live their lives.
• 58:59
  And that's why we had such a strong racist population and
• 59:03
  they continued to go ahead and go into to Jim Crow era.
• 59:07
  And so I, I genuinely believe that, you know, Donald Trump, he
• 59:13
  didn't start this fight. This fight's been fought since
• 59:17
  the Civil War. He's just the current poster
• 59:20
  board. You can.
• 59:23
  There's parts of this that. You'll make him look like a
• 59:25
  genuine puppet, yes. No, he is.
• 59:28
  There is nothing he. Won't say or do.
• 59:30
  He's got like, same with JD Vance.
• 59:34
  I can't write my mind around. It like JD.
• 59:36
  Vance went from being JD. Vance is.
• 59:38
  A shapeshifter, he. Literally went everything from
• 59:41
  his school. To his styles.
• 59:43
  To his choice of friends, he is a shapeshifter.
• 59:46
  He will say whatever the people in the room are saying to fit
• 59:49
  in. He has.
• 59:50
  He's at total cognos. Exactly.
• 59:52
  I mean, JD Vance went was. Literally saying how Donald
• 59:56
  Trump is Satan. He's literally Hitler.
• 59:59
  I have this theory. What's the theory?
• 1:00:01
  So I have a theory that JD sees him doing all this stuff,
• 1:00:04
  getting all the like I said the I mean, you can say what you
• 1:00:06
  want, but the Project 2025 thing is actually something really to
• 1:00:09
  be scared about, in my opinion. Obviously like to create
• 1:00:12
  hysteria, but like, you know, he should be watching out for it.
• 1:00:15
  But a lot of Trump is doing a lot of these things.
• 1:00:18
  Trump, quote, UN quote, is doing all these things and he's taking
• 1:00:20
  the fall for all of these things that he's getting passed and
• 1:00:22
  done. And I think JD actually wants
• 1:00:24
  those things done, but he's sitting in the background.
• 1:00:26
  So when something does happen to Trump or if he when he does get
• 1:00:28
  when obviously like we're not going to allow a third, third
• 1:00:32
  term for him, but whenever he steps up, he's like, oh, I
• 1:00:35
  didn't know, you know, like he's going to step away and he's
• 1:00:38
  going to separate himself. And he's.
• 1:00:40
  Going to be like, oh, well, he did all that stuff.
• 1:00:42
  And then when he, if he ever got in, he would, you know, continue
• 1:00:46
  that. No for sure.
• 1:00:48
  I think he'll just do. It with a hidden agenda.
• 1:00:50
  Exactly. Yeah, he'll just.
• 1:00:51
  Do it with a more. Convincing face and not as much
• 1:00:56
  of AA rambling tangent. Right, right.
• 1:00:58
  And be able to do it more. What seems logically, but he'll
• 1:01:01
  let Trump take the fall for all the stuff that people were
• 1:01:03
  complaining. About right now, he's like, I
• 1:01:05
  had nothing to do. I'm just the vice president.
• 1:01:06
  Absolutely. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:01:09
  Well AUS soldier involved in the Maduro raid was charged with
• 1:01:14
  betting on the Operation U.S. special forces.
• 1:01:19
  Soldier is. Accused of using classified
• 1:01:21
  information about the raid to place bets and profits, he made
• 1:01:24
  more than $400,000 on the prediction market or prediction
• 1:01:29
  platform Poly Market. He was identified as Gannon.
• 1:01:33
  Ken Van Dyke allegedly placed $33,000 in vets tied to the
• 1:01:38
  operation. He was directly involved in the
• 1:01:42
  planning and the execution of the US mission to capture
• 1:01:45
  Nicolas Maduro. He is charged with multiple
• 1:01:48
  crimes, including using confidential government
• 1:01:50
  information for personal gain, fraud, and unlawful financial
• 1:01:54
  transactions. He placed 13 bets between late
• 1:01:59
  December and early January. He allegedly moved most of the
• 1:02:04
  proceeds into foreign cryptocurrency and and then
• 1:02:07
  later into a brokerage account. Wow, that's actually that's a
• 1:02:13
  lot. Something something about Apple
• 1:02:15
  not falling fall. From the tree.
• 1:02:16
  Isn't that what our president does?
• 1:02:18
  He makes money off of everything.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah, yeah. So that's a huge.
• 1:02:23
  I'm glad that. Polymarket.
• 1:02:25
  And these betting platforms are going ahead and paying attention
• 1:02:28
  to this because Polymarket was the one who identified the
• 1:02:30
  suspicious activity and referred the case to the Justice
• 1:02:34
  Department. So it's good that they're going
• 1:02:36
  ahead and, you know, checking on that, but I, I feel as though
• 1:02:43
  it's going to be impossible to regulate that in a proper
• 1:02:47
  fashion into like just outright, I'm just going to say it, It's,
• 1:02:52
  it's, it's going to be, it is, it's probably impossible to go
• 1:02:56
  ahead and regulate because honestly, people within those, I
• 1:02:59
  mean, we can't even get Congress to stop insider trading.
• 1:03:02
  We can't even get them to stop doing.
• 1:03:04
  Using the stock. Market for personal fucking
• 1:03:06
  gains, let alone what they're going to go out and do in terms
• 1:03:09
  of toppling a fucking government.
• 1:03:12
  So, Esme, what's your what's your opinion?
• 1:03:16
  I think we. Need to stop putting people in
• 1:03:18
  office that. We can't trust is what I think.
• 1:03:21
  And I think when you are, when you violate that trust even one
• 1:03:25
  time, you should be removed from office immediately.
• 1:03:27
  Or if there's even the preponderance of the thought
• 1:03:29
  that maybe you might be up to something, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:32
  There's just, there's just too many people getting away.
• 1:03:35
  There's just too many people getting away with stuff and
• 1:03:38
  nobody's doing anything about it.
• 1:03:40
  Danielle, what's your what's your opinion?
• 1:03:42
  There's a lot of information thrown around there.
• 1:03:46
  I'm trying to take pieces from everybody because it's just,
• 1:03:48
  it's a, it's a lot. I'm not too familiar with this,
• 1:03:52
  with this story. We're getting you guys some news
• 1:03:56
  stories. We're.
• 1:03:57
  Getting you guys on this on this like what's going on here?
• 1:04:00
  Like I really I feel. So out of touch.
• 1:04:03
  No, you're good. You're absolutely perfectly
• 1:04:05
  fine. This is like, it's good to have
• 1:04:07
  your raw reaction, to be honest. It's a hard thing to go ahead
• 1:04:10
  and make the opinion on though, Yeah, you know, I will admit.
• 1:04:14
  I didn't start thinking about this.
• 1:04:15
  Stuff as deep until I got on the show.
• 1:04:18
  Yeah, well, for real, man. Exactly.
• 1:04:20
  I'm like. Man, it takes me a.
• 1:04:22
  Moment to really like process. Certain things and well, I'll
• 1:04:25
  throw it to Vin 1st and then we'll we'll go ahead.
• 1:04:27
  And go around the room. Oh, so my brain.
• 1:04:30
  I I have ADHD and I just decided that we haven't talked about
• 1:04:34
  very much good news. So I started looking up good
• 1:04:37
  news. Oh good.
• 1:04:38
  Well that's a nice change. Well, I'll be honest.
• 1:04:40
  And I feel like I. Should start betting on these
• 1:04:43
  like, different world events because I've been predicting a
• 1:04:46
  lot of stuff happening on the big gay radio show that have
• 1:04:50
  been coming. You're not a politician, so and
• 1:04:51
  I'm not a politician. I'm a political science.
• 1:04:54
  Major I feel like I I've already got this.
• 1:04:57
  I've already got this. You could make some good money,
• 1:05:00
  man. I'm just saying.
• 1:05:02
  I feel like a gambling is bad. OK, I think it's meant for you
• 1:05:05
  and not those. I would not be good at it but
• 1:05:09
  you. Would be, you know, demographic.
• 1:05:11
  So what's your good? News story, buddy.
• 1:05:14
  OK. So I just found this thing.
• 1:05:16
  On goodnewsnetwork.org, there's a mystery of the golden orb
• 1:05:20
  found 2 miles deep on the ocean floor.
• 1:05:23
  It is finally resolved. Apparently a golden orb.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, US. Researchers from NOAA.
• 1:05:30
  National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration were left
• 1:05:33
  confused and excited by the sighting in 2023, made during
• 1:05:37
  their Ocean Explorative program. It's it says it's like a
• 1:05:42
  beginning of a horror movie, another person commented.
• 1:05:44
  I'm pretty sure this is how the first episode of The X-Files
• 1:05:46
  started. I'm still reading onto the thing
• 1:05:50
  but it says mystery solved. The golden orb is not an egg, a
• 1:05:53
  sponge, or remnants of a space alien, but a relic of a deep sea
• 1:05:56
  anemone. OK interesting.
• 1:05:59
  I I've. Got another?
• 1:06:00
  I've got a good news story that came out of the the
• 1:06:03
  correspondence shooting. Which is a better, you know,
• 1:06:06
  for, for honestly better than going ahead and giving a bunch
• 1:06:10
  of lobsters and steaks to a bunch of journalists and
• 1:06:13
  politicians. The Hilton has donated 2600
• 1:06:18
  uneaten meals from the White House Correspondents Dinner to
• 1:06:22
  local shelters after the shooting.
• 1:06:24
  Great, great. Plenty of.
• 1:06:27
  Flash. I'm so glad they're like.
• 1:06:29
  Flash. Froze the.
• 1:06:31
  They freeze. Dried the meals to extend.
• 1:06:33
  The shelf. Life before distributing to the
• 1:06:35
  shelter. That's what we should be doing.
• 1:06:37
  Absolutely. Those are things that we should
• 1:06:39
  be focusing on and it's feeding, you know, the hungry.
• 1:06:41
  We're finally feeding the hungry y'all.
• 1:06:46
  Not my country. They're eating good, too.
• 1:06:49
  That's right. Exactly I'm.
• 1:06:51
  Serious. And that's why that guy kept.
• 1:06:53
  Eating, you know. That's the food was expensive
• 1:06:55
  and tasty. Let me and the.
• 1:06:57
  Wine. I'm gonna eat all these leaves.
• 1:07:00
  I'm taking the wine with me. That's for.
• 1:07:01
  Sure, I got another story. Should be the next.
• 1:07:04
  The wine in the back. Yeah, she's like, the kids don't
• 1:07:07
  need these. So Esme.
• 1:07:09
  I got one last story for. You and it's about the save act.
• 1:07:15
  Esme, do you remember a couple weeks ago when you go when you
• 1:07:18
  expressed a little bit of of stress about the save act
• 1:07:22
  passing the house? Yeah, but it didn't pass.
• 1:07:24
  But it didn't pass the. Senate so.
• 1:07:26
  I I want to go ahead and. And continue.
• 1:07:29
  To to highlight the fact that, you know, our, our system is
• 1:07:32
  working. The media might not want you to
• 1:07:36
  go ahead and say see that, but that's honestly Donald Trump's
• 1:07:40
  playbook. They Donald Trump, I think it
• 1:07:42
  was Steve Bannon, I think it was, I think it was Mike Lindell
• 1:07:45
  even said it is that they are wanting to swarm the media with
• 1:07:51
  as much information and as much news as possible.
• 1:07:55
  So people become desensitized from the the the different
• 1:07:59
  things that they're doing and every single thing that you
• 1:08:02
  should that you see in terms of the news, you should be asking
• 1:08:06
  yourself, what are they trying to cover up?
• 1:08:08
  What is else is out there? Because you know, honestly, the
• 1:08:13
  save Act has I am I've, I've said it since the day that it
• 1:08:17
  was, it was introduced. I didn't think it was going to
• 1:08:19
  ever pass the Senate. I explicitly said that it might
• 1:08:22
  and most likely would pass the House, but it wasn't going to
• 1:08:25
  pass the Senate. And that's exactly what
• 1:08:29
  happened. And so I feel like more people,
• 1:08:32
  we just have faith in the system and actually go ahead and target
• 1:08:36
  our energy. Yeah, I think, I think a lot of
• 1:08:39
  people see the system. Sometimes obviously will fail
• 1:08:42
  sometimes. So I think that's why people,
• 1:08:44
  you know, get discouraged or, you know, they see, they see a
• 1:08:48
  lot of the influence that Donald Trump has as well.
• 1:08:51
  And that's very discouraging. But it is good to highlight the
• 1:08:54
  the positives of our system working very much so.
• 1:08:58
  And it's, it's scary. To me that people think that,
• 1:09:01
  you know, wave the magic wand Donald Trump's president, that's
• 1:09:06
  not ever going to be the case. Never.
• 1:09:09
  And honestly, I, I feel like there's a, there's a distinct
• 1:09:14
  fear of things taking time nowadays.
• 1:09:17
  Everything's so instantaneous. You can look up anything on your
• 1:09:21
  phone. I mean, your phone has more
• 1:09:22
  power in it than we got when we used to send people up to the
• 1:09:26
  moon for the first time. So I, I feel like if we can go
• 1:09:30
  ahead and focus our energy on getting people elected, we can
• 1:09:34
  not only impeach Trump, we can impeach Vance.
• 1:09:37
  We can impeach every other asshole on the fucking planet.
• 1:09:40
  A lot more of us than there are. Exactly.
• 1:09:42
  Exactly. I mean.
• 1:09:43
  There, I think it was a an entire third of the population
• 1:09:47
  just simply did not vote. It's crazy.
• 1:09:49
  Absolutely, I think. I think young people need to get
• 1:09:53
  get out there and vote. And I think more celebrities
• 1:09:58
  need to tell their audience to vote.
• 1:10:02
  I agree. I mean, it doesn't matter which
• 1:10:04
  way you vote. Just do it.
• 1:10:06
  Yeah. I believe in any space of
• 1:10:08
  influence. If you have a.
• 1:10:09
  Space of influence and you're knowledgeable also, especially
• 1:10:12
  for us adults like realistically I believe the children are the
• 1:10:14
  future. This is their.
• 1:10:16
  Plan well and let them lead the. Way so that's.
• 1:10:20
  Not. So something.
• 1:10:21
  Another thing that I want to go ahead and give out.
• 1:10:23
  Hope for is because I'm in I'm obviously in political science
• 1:10:26
  classes. It's my last semester actually
• 1:10:29
  taking political science classes.
• 1:10:31
  I'm I'm I'm I'm all caught up. I only have electives after
• 1:10:35
  after this semester. But throughout the entirety of
• 1:10:38
  the time that I was in these classes, I felt like the dumbest
• 1:10:42
  person in the room. But most of the time, I was also
• 1:10:46
  the oldest person of the peer group.
• 1:10:48
  The the teacher obviously was older.
• 1:10:50
  But these are young kids that are trying to get involved in a
• 1:10:54
  political spectrum and trying to learn how politics works.
• 1:10:58
  So, and I wish that was available to me, but hey.
• 1:11:02
  If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong
• 1:11:04
  room. Right.
• 1:11:05
  You've got a lot to learn from that.
• 1:11:07
  Exactly. I.
• 1:11:08
  Learned a lot. Yeah, that's.
• 1:11:09
  Oh, that's so perfect, 'cause I I really did.
• 1:11:11
  I really learned a lot and honestly, you know, I failed.
• 1:11:15
  I had an intro to political theory class.
• 1:11:17
  I failed this 3 * 3 times. And I've taken this class with
• 1:11:22
  this professor, this now with this professor this last
• 1:11:24
  semester. And I don't know what it was
• 1:11:27
  about his teaching, but he taught it so perfectly and
• 1:11:32
  everybody was so engaged. It it just, it really makes me
• 1:11:35
  excited for the next generation to go ahead and get into power.
• 1:11:40
  But it also, you know, makes me hyper critical over the older
• 1:11:44
  generation because there's a changing of the guard that needs
• 1:11:47
  to happen. That's not David Hogg was a
• 1:11:51
  perfect example where he said that he needed that we needed to
• 1:11:54
  get rid of these older politicians who are career
• 1:11:57
  politicians. And then he got removed from
• 1:11:59
  being vice president of of the Florida Democrats or whatever he
• 1:12:03
  was in charge. I forget what caucus or
• 1:12:04
  something, but those are the types of things that we
• 1:12:07
  shouldn't be suppressing. People should be able to have a
• 1:12:09
  voice and be critical of their politician.
• 1:12:12
  Anyways, Vin, I ranted. What's your opinion?
• 1:12:15
  I really believe. That children are the future.
• 1:12:20
  Teach them well and let them lead the way.
• 1:12:22
  Like I, I, there's a Children are the future.
• 1:12:26
  Really. You know.
• 1:12:30
  But in All in all seriousness. Like.
• 1:12:32
  There's a This is coming from being an immigrant, right?
• 1:12:37
  And having parents that they did their best to protect me not
• 1:12:41
  just as an immigrant child, but also as like, like my stepdad is
• 1:12:45
  white and 100% Polish from Brooklyn, NY, married to a
• 1:12:49
  Filipino woman with three girl with three young girls at the
• 1:12:52
  time before I transitioned, right?
• 1:12:54
  So like they did their best to protect us from what was
• 1:12:58
  happening in politics, in the outside world and racism, but
• 1:13:01
  they couldn't do that. You know what I mean?
• 1:13:02
  We experienced it for ourselves. It happened to us and getting
• 1:13:07
  involved in politics is not like, it's not a it's not a
• 1:13:11
  privilege, It's a right, you know, and we, and we got to be
• 1:13:14
  conscious and we have to be aware of that.
• 1:13:16
  And we have to create an openness for our future and our
• 1:13:19
  kids to be able to have a confidence in having those
• 1:13:22
  conversations too. Absolutely.
• 1:13:24
  I absolutely agree. Very.
• 1:13:26
  Well said. Thank you.
• 1:13:27
  That's why I'm pushing that like I'm not political.
• 1:13:29
  Rhetoric is not always positive. It's like, it's more so like
• 1:13:31
  protect your mental health to a certain extent, but also be
• 1:13:33
  involved, be aware, be conscious.
• 1:13:36
  Yeah, and if you're if and if. Anybody's listening to this,
• 1:13:40
  right? Now, if you like, of course,
• 1:13:42
  there's a lot of people listening to this, actually.
• 1:13:44
  And if you're listening to this and you're thinking politics
• 1:13:48
  does not affect you, you are wrong.
• 1:13:50
  Like, you are your bubbles going to get popped.
• 1:13:52
  Just start paying attention, like, give yourselves an
• 1:13:55
  opportunity to be knowledgeable. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:13:58
  I used to not be. Too involved in politics and not
• 1:14:02
  know enough. And I just said I, I I'm not
• 1:14:05
  educated enough to talk about politics.
• 1:14:07
  And then I realized how fucking privileged I am and that I need
• 1:14:13
  to get involved because I need to be that voice for the people
• 1:14:16
  who don't have the privilege I have.
• 1:14:18
  And and now I find it very kind of frustrating when people say
• 1:14:24
  that like I used to say, because you're conscious now.
• 1:14:26
  Yeah. Yeah, it does.
• 1:14:28
  Affect you, It will. Affect you think at a certain
• 1:14:30
  once you hit a certain age. You end up starting to pay
• 1:14:33
  attention a little more to for sure, because again, like you
• 1:14:36
  said, your parents tend to protect you from all of those
• 1:14:39
  things and try the best that you can.
• 1:14:41
  And you know, when you grow up privileged, as you said, or as I
• 1:14:44
  as I did as well, you know, my parents were able to kind of
• 1:14:47
  hide those things for me a little bit.
• 1:14:49
  So I didn't get a chance to really get into politics a
• 1:14:52
  little bit and so until I got older, Right.
• 1:14:53
  Yeah. And when I when I say
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  privileged, what? I mean by that is when it's when
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  you say an issue doesn't affect you or isn't an problem because
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  it doesn't affect you. And that's why I'm saying
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  there's all these. Issues in the world.
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  And I'm just too stubborn to learn about them because they're
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  not affecting me. That sounds kind of shitty.
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  I don't like that. Very well put.
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  That is very well put. Well, circling back to the
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  children of the future like we have.
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  To help prepare that future for them.
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  So we have to do the work now for them and then pave the way
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  for you can't hide them from everything.
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  You have to at least. Be able to teach them, then get
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  them ready for what kind of world that they're going to be
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  into. Any of the millennials in the
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  room. You see how they prepared our
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  futures. How many of you own homes,
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  exactly? No, this is true.
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  So we need to set this up for our children.
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  I don't care. About my future, but I care
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  about what's going to happen to this world for my son and my
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  grandkids and whatever may come down the line.
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  Right? Chris?
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  Can I just say it's been awesome to have?
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  Beauty and brains in the room. It's been what I've had fun this
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  has. Been a fun episode.
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  I've had fun, but no. And honestly, you know,
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  piggybacking off that, I, I really hate the idea that
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  there's nothing that people can do in terms of the fact that my
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  generation has been growing up in this area and has to move
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  away just so that they can either move back or just not
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  move back at all. And I'm very lucky because I, I
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  had a lot of people around me that was able to support me and
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  that's why I'm still here. But I very much could have ended
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  up in a completely different environment if I didn't go ahead
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  and have those people around me. I mean, fuck, I got a six figure
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  scholarship to Ohio State University, but I chose not to
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  go. And it was a very privileged
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  reason why I chose not to go is because like, fuck, am I going
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  to live in Ohio? It smells up there.
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  But and and and granted that. That that's something that a lot
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  of other people can't really have they they don't necessarily
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  have that ability to oh, I got I got it I got a scholarship to
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  college. I can go to I have to go to this
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  school. We love our Ohio listeners.
• 1:17:06
  Our. Ohioans that listen rodging like
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  your land, tell your land to take a shower.
• 1:17:15
  Anyways, Esme, what's the tea? You got?
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  Any final thoughts? No, but I did.
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  Like what? This young?
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  Lady said about if you're not eating at the table, you're what
• 1:17:24
  you're eating. Yeah, you're not at the table
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  eating. You're eating if you're.
• 1:17:27
  Not at the table. Yeah, eating.
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  You're the dinner, honey. Well, Jesse, Harley, Danielle,
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  thank. You guys for joining us today.
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  Thank you so much for having us. Can you get a one?
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  Yeah, yeah. OK, so what's the?
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  What's the tea so? You can.
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  everybody there. Esme, what kind of fucking
• 1:18:41
  thirst trap do you have on? Your phone going on right now.
• 1:18:44
  I'm looking at this kid. He's gorgeous, gorgeous.
• 1:18:48
  Like I'm not, not me just peeping over like standing up on
• 1:18:51
  my dead. Loops trying to see.
• 1:18:52
  Everyone wants to see. I turn my head.
• 1:18:54
  And I see a. Man, putting a collar on, I'm
• 1:18:57
  like, I didn't know you swung that way.
• 1:18:58
  Yeah, I know. He's gorgeous.
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  I've been watching for the last two.
• 1:19:01
  Minutes. We're like, why is this video an
• 1:19:06
  hour? Long he's so He's so pretty that
• 1:19:08
  I don't even know what to tell. I don't even know what to say.
• 1:19:11
  He's just beautiful. She's stunned.
• 1:19:13
  Well, just to. Clarify, you said kid.
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  Over age, right? Oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah. OK, well.
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  From my perspective. Well, my perspective, he's a.
• 1:19:23
  Kid, but no, he's definitely in his 20s.
• 1:19:28
  Just checking as many just checking.
• 1:19:29
  Oh yeah, he's definitely getting you off that list.
• 1:19:32
  But yeah, he's good. He's gorgeous.
• 1:19:34
  Open any last minute thoughts? I'm hungry.
• 1:19:36
  Just looking at him, I'm also. Hungry.
• 1:19:39
  Start at. Lunchtime I'm ready for.
• 1:19:41
  Lunch. I think you.
• 1:19:42
  Guys are just a bunch. Of thirsty hoes.
• 1:19:44
  I'm valid also I have. To repent to my life coach after
• 1:19:47
  this. So sounds about right.
• 1:19:50
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