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610 CKTB | Branded for Eternity: Trumpification of the USA · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Sean led Key is joining us this morning to tell
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  Speaker 1: stories Only the Way, Only the Way. John can Hey,
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  Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Jean. Did you hear my conversation
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  Speaker 1: that I was having with Dave. I'm watching this news
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  Speaker 1: conference with Pete hegseeth the Secretary of Defense or is
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  Speaker 1: he likes to call it the Secretary of War? And
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  Speaker 1: uh and again I'm not making this up. Alex and
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  Speaker 1: I are trying to find the clip on Twitter. A
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  Speaker 1: reporter for The Daily Wire seriously asked him and a
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  Speaker 1: four star US general, is it true that Iran has
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  Speaker 1: kamikaze dolphins?
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  Speaker 2: Gene. I was prepping for this segment with you and
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  Speaker 2: I had that on the screen, and when I heard it,
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  Speaker 2: I did a spit take of my coffee because I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to figure out, like, is this as dumb
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  Speaker 2: as it sounds like? And then he goes on to
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  Speaker 2: you know, say that he won't confirm her deny that
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  Speaker 2: they have it kind of a funny line.
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  Speaker 1: Which I thought was great.
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  Speaker 2: Geez, what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Well? You know you know what I figured, dude, if
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not true, but do you not agree with
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  Speaker 1: me kamakazi dolphins?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Is that not the best name for a rock band.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, that sounds like it'd be a really good
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  Speaker 2: uh like surf rock band exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, well, listen, you passed along this really good article
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  Speaker 1: to me the other day from the Atlantic, and it's
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  Speaker 1: all about our favorite Orange man, Donald Trump. And in
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  Speaker 1: the article, it seems as if Trump is is no
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  Speaker 1: longer comparing himself to people like Lincoln or Washington. He's
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  Speaker 1: now mentioning himself privately alongside Alexander the Great and Julius
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  Speaker 1: Caesar and Napoleon. Now it's just is this just a
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  Speaker 1: branding exercise or we really look at a guy who
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  Speaker 1: views himself as a as a worldly historical figure above
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  Speaker 1: the law.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's the latter in this case. But
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  Speaker 2: why wouldn't. He's an incredibly wealthy man. He's made billions
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  Speaker 2: off the presidency. He has a party that's still loyal
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  Speaker 2: to him. Arguably, every president is, you know, the world's
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  Speaker 2: free leader. And you wouldn't expect, though, this type of
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  Speaker 2: talk from someone who carries the nuclear codes around with
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  Speaker 2: them every day, And you would hope for a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more humbleness to recognize the greatness of the actual
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  Speaker 2: position it is genuinely concerning to hear about this musing,
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  Speaker 2: but it's clear that he is looking towards his lasting
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  Speaker 2: legacy and he doesn't want all of it to be
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  Speaker 2: torn down by the Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about the Hegel connection. Now, I know he
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  Speaker 1: was a German philosopher, but what's that all about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really interesting. It talks about the theory
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  Speaker 2: of great men who shatter norms to move history forward.
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  Speaker 2: Trump does see himself as that. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 2: the things that he does. He's abducted world leaders, He's
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  Speaker 2: starting Middle East engagements without any talk about it prior
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  Speaker 2: to He uses tariffs as weapons against every country that
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  Speaker 2: he's allies with, and typically in times not against the
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  Speaker 2: ones that he's not allies with. So no, he definitely
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  Speaker 2: sees himself as a great man world leader who is
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  Speaker 2: shattering norms. And he is chattering norms social norms, physical norms,
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  Speaker 2: political norms, professional norms. This is a guy who lives
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  Speaker 2: on his own accord. And I don't mean this to
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  Speaker 2: be flattering about him either.
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  Speaker 1: No, let's talk about the physical legacy or the trumplification
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  Speaker 1: of America. We just learned the other day that his
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  Speaker 1: likeness is going to be on some passports. Real estate.
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  Speaker 1: We know about that, on buildings. He wants national monuments
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  Speaker 1: named after him. He probably wants the new ballroom named
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  Speaker 1: after him. And it just goes on and on and on.
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  Speaker 2: This is a man who is very afraid, as I
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  Speaker 2: just mentioned, that his legacy will be torn down quite physically,
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  Speaker 2: not just spiritually or politically, recognizing that his numbers are tanking.
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  Speaker 2: He's entered into quagmires with the Middle East Iran conflict
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  Speaker 2: that's causing a massive spike in gas prices at home,
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  Speaker 2: that is only going to continue to increase. World alliances
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  Speaker 2: aren't fracturing, but we're watching, you know, Mark Carney go
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  Speaker 2: off to the European Union and try to create new,
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  Speaker 2: stronger alliances over there. So yeah, no, this is the
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  Speaker 2: trumplification of America is a very real thing. But it's
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  Speaker 2: it's really concerning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love those ads where he tries to sell
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  Speaker 1: his new Trump watches, and the other one is the
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  Speaker 1: Trump Bible that he personally autographs like as if he's Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's interesting that you bring that
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  Speaker 2: up because the Trump brand is probably the only successful
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  Speaker 2: thing that Trump actually has, which is why he's slapping
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  Speaker 2: his face on absolutely everything to make sure that it
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  Speaker 2: continues in permanency. All of his businesses have failed, whether
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  Speaker 2: it be Trump Stakes or Trump Airlines or the Trump organization.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is the only thing that has lasted it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a good question for you. Now, a president can
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  Speaker 1: only serve two terms, so he can't run for office again.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that he can't run, does this make
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  Speaker 1: him more effective or more dangerous?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is more dangerous because it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be a traditional lame duck presidency who abides by
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  Speaker 2: any norms. We're in fact seeing that it's escalating. So
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  Speaker 2: unless the midterms go really poorly, I don't see him
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  Speaker 2: course correcting because I don't see how he as a
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  Speaker 2: man personally, can you know, actually pull out of Iran
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  Speaker 2: right now and let them have a strategic win. Everything
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  Speaker 2: with him is a fight or retribution. That's sort of
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  Speaker 2: the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So what is his immortal legacy?
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  Speaker 2: The shattering of political norms, a undoing of a economic
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  Speaker 2: structure globally that is increasingly isolating from the United States,
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  Speaker 2: A shattering of the norms just generally that we have
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  Speaker 2: seen in politics. It's I find it concerning the damage
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  Speaker 2: that he has done to the body politic. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not just him, and it's not just Republicans either. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: is just so crass and cruel, and social media and
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  Speaker 2: dopamine hits are only fueling it. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the way out is going to be before it gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in one hundred years, I think he just wants
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  Speaker 1: his people to remember his name, not any sort of
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  Speaker 1: a legacy.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you on that one percent.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's forgetting it.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely, absolutely right, especially if they put him
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  Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore and you know, he probably wants to
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  Speaker 1: be on the twenty dollars bill and it's just never ending.
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  Speaker 1: But we only have three more years of.
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  Speaker 2: Him only only Okay, great, okay, thank you, all right,
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  Speaker 2: that's solid.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks and thanks for this this morning. Always, it's always
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  Speaker 1: great to get your take on things. Cheers, all right,
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  Speaker 1: there you go, John led Key, great storyteller,