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Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield on Trump plan to deploy National Guard troops to Portland · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the takeout.
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  Speaker 2: As part of its ongoing lawsuit against the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 2: Oregon's attorney general today filed what legal beagles call a
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  Speaker 2: tro that's a temporary restraining order to block National Guard
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  Speaker 2: troops from being deployed to Portland. People gathered outside of
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  Speaker 2: the city's US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement building over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We're there to protest a White House's plan to send
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of National Guard troops right there. President Trump, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, is also expected to send National Guard forces
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  Speaker 2: to Tennessee and Illinois the not too distant future. Oregon
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General Dan Rayfield, it joins me now, mister Attorney General,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the program. First of all, catch my audience up.
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  Speaker 2: What is the status of things right now in terms
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  Speaker 2: of whether or not the deployment has happened, is about
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  Speaker 2: to happen, about to arrive?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you?
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  Speaker 3: You're kind of in this limbo stage right now. So
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  Speaker 3: we got noticed Sunday morning that two hundred National Guard
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  Speaker 3: troops were going to be federalized by the President and
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  Speaker 3: moved into the city of Portland. We immediately filed a lawsuit,
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  Speaker 3: and then this morning we file what they call a
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  Speaker 3: temporary restraining in order to pause that action. As we
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  Speaker 3: sit here today, I'm not aware that the National Guard
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  Speaker 3: troops have actually posted. Frankly, we're very unclear about what
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  Speaker 3: their mission is at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Would there be any mission in Portland, mister Attorney General
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  Speaker 2: that you or your colleagues there would accept.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I think it doesn't matter what city you are
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  Speaker 3: in this country, doesn't matter what state you are in
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  Speaker 3: this country. We as we sit in communities, we all
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  Speaker 3: believe in public safety and want to improve public safety.
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  Speaker 3: It should never be something that we're satisfied with. Bringing
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  Speaker 3: in the US military into our cities is not how
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  Speaker 3: you do that. That's not leadership when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: improving public safety. That's more to score political points than
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  Speaker 3: it is anything else. If you were to talk to
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  Speaker 3: your local Portland police, what you would hear, and we
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  Speaker 3: actually have this in our drafted tro motion that we filed.
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  Speaker 3: They are finding more activity around Portland nightlife than they
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  Speaker 3: are around the ice facility and downtown Portland. So that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the reality that we're experiencing right now. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if the President called our state, if they called any
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  Speaker 3: state and said, hey, what do you need in your state.
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  Speaker 3: I think all of us would welcome that conversation. That's
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  Speaker 3: just not a conversation. I think that this administration is
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  Speaker 3: wanting to have mister Turnery general.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, this played out previously this year in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals generally
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  Speaker 2: backed the administration, citing the supremacy clause and its ability
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  Speaker 2: to protect federal facilities. For the federalization of National Guard forces, there,
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  Speaker 2: aren't you up against the same legal structure.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and no.
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  Speaker 3: The facts here in Oregon and actually you know the nation,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the law, is that the president
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  Speaker 3: has to meet really strict standards to be able to
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  Speaker 3: federalize the National Guarden. Think about it, right, like, as
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  Speaker 3: we're as Americans, we're not a third world country. We
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  Speaker 3: don't want the US military wandering the streets in our cities.
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  Speaker 3: They are not there to do public safety. They aren't trained,
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  Speaker 3: frankly to do that type of work. So we have
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  Speaker 3: laws in place that prevent them from doing that, the
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  Speaker 3: president from doing that, I should say, So you've got
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  Speaker 3: to have an invasion, Well, certainly there's not invasion in Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: You got to have a rebellion. We don't have one
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  Speaker 1: of those.
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  Speaker 3: And the third thing is you got to the president
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  Speaker 3: can't be able to effectuate the laws of the United States,
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  Speaker 3: and that is not the case here in Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: We believe there's incredibly strong facts and.
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  Speaker 3: That's why we immediately move for that temporary restraining order
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  Speaker 3: to depose it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I do agree that you know, presidents should actually have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of deference to be able to respond to
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  Speaker 3: emerging conditions in our communities. This is a case, though,
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  Speaker 3: where it is extreme. The President is basing hiss facts
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  Speaker 3: on social media gossip rather than the facts on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing right now.
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  Speaker 2: Mister turnity down. I want you to address what the
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  Speaker 2: president describes as a war ravage. That's a direct quote
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  Speaker 2: from the president. City of Portland under attack by Antifa,
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  Speaker 2: which he has declared a domestic terrorist organization. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to evaluate those two things. And as I look
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  Speaker 2: at the statistics my team put together homicide down fifty percent,
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  Speaker 2: motor vehicle theft down, but arson and drug offense is
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  Speaker 2: way way up. So there's a problem there isn't there.
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  Speaker 3: Will you look at major harm or like what I
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  Speaker 3: would say significant crimes involving persons. They're down fifty one
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  Speaker 3: percent in the Portland area since the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 3: And you have a president again that I am surprised
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  Speaker 3: how many years have we been at this that nobody
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  Speaker 3: takes his phone away from him when he's tweeting these.
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  Speaker 1: Types of things.
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  Speaker 3: The type of stuff that he's tweeting are factually inaccurate.
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  Speaker 1: We have in our memory.
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  Speaker 3: The Portland Police is talking about what's the reality on
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  Speaker 3: the ground. It's completely inconsistent with what the president says.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's not unusual.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously we've been dealing with as president for a very
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  Speaker 3: long time and the things he tweets out is not
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  Speaker 3: always grounded in truth.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what the courts are for.
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  Speaker 3: Right We're going to get in front of a judge
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  Speaker 3: and talk about what the reality is in the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And when you do.
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  Speaker 3: That, I feel real confident that we'll be able to
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  Speaker 3: sit there and show what the truth is real quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Any uncomfortableness that you possess, mister Attorney General, with this
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  Speaker 2: idea that Antifa is a domestic terror organization, well.
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  Speaker 3: I think they went down that path when they were
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  Speaker 3: in the first Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: I think top lines right.
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  Speaker 3: We do believe in American society that freedom of speech
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  Speaker 3: is important and you should be able to protest. Some
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  Speaker 3: of the biggest things that we've done in our society
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  Speaker 3: have been done through peaceful protests. However, if you are
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  Speaker 3: going to protest and you're going to break the law,
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  Speaker 3: there should be accountability and that is going on in Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: We have the Portland Police, the Moltnoma County Sheriff's Office,
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  Speaker 3: we have Oregon State Police, and we have the District
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  Speaker 3: Attorney Moltnoma County that will make arrests and prosecute when
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  Speaker 3: people are violating the law. You don't need the United
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  Speaker 3: States military to come into a city. Again, we're not
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  Speaker 3: a third world country. We shouldn't accept that. As Americans,
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  Speaker 3: we should use the right resources to keep our community safe.
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  Speaker 2: Oregant Attorney General Dan Rayfield, mister Attorney General, I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your time, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you for having me.