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College Football Roundtable at Covert Ford of Austin! · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy friday to you glad you've made it to friday
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  Speaker 1: and us alongside glad to have you with us good
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  Speaker 1: afternoon everybody welcome to the program here on sports radio
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  Speaker 1: am 13 under the zone and where you can always
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  Speaker 1: listen to us absolutely free of charge on the easy-to-download,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't already, iHeartRadio app. My name is Craig Way.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us. The producer is
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  Speaker 1: Jake Herman alongside. Here's what we have for you. We
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  Speaker 1: have a one-hour edition of the program this year. You
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  Speaker 1: have me until 3 o'clock. Because at 3, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go out to Covert on 183 on Research out
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  Speaker 1: there near Duval, right next to Rudy's Country's Tour and Barbecue.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to go out there for a special football
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  Speaker 1: weekend preview program. And that's going to be spearheaded and
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  Speaker 1: anchored by none other than Mike Hardball Harge, who will
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  Speaker 1: be joined by Mark Henry and Eric Henry, right? Henry,
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  Speaker 1: Henry one and Henry two. Don't ask him which one
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  Speaker 1: is Henry one or Henry. I think they'll both kind
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  Speaker 1: of defer to Mark on that. Don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something tells me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably would. But and they're not related, but
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  Speaker 1: they are Henry's. So they'll be out there and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have a two hour break. Football weekend preview
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  Speaker 1: where they'll look back at that NFL game that was
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  Speaker 1: played last night and the one the night before. They'll
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  Speaker 1: look obviously at Texas, Ohio State, and the college football
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  Speaker 1: scene as well. In this hour, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that we have coming up is last night we brought
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  Speaker 1: you Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark. And we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about it yesterday and played you one little excerpt from
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  Speaker 1: it because our special guest was Mack Brown.
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  Speaker 3: And it was great.
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  Speaker 1: We had coach with us almost all the way through
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  Speaker 1: the entire program. And we brought you a segment where
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  Speaker 1: it was about the state of college football. Now, on Fridays,
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  Speaker 1: what we normally do is we bring you another excerpt
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  Speaker 1: from that show, and it's kind of the game plan segment.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, it's a look at the opponent. And
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  Speaker 1: Sark and I do that, but we've got Mack Brown
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  Speaker 1: with us as well. And so it'll be a look
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  Speaker 1: at this matchup. tomorrow evening with the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, you can hear the game on our
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  Speaker 1: sister station, 98.1 FM KVET, but our Longhorns game day
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  Speaker 1: coverage will begin at 2.30 in the afternoon. So it'll
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  Speaker 1: be at 2.30 with the third and Longhorn podcast guys.
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  Speaker 1: They have their hour-long preview. And then that'll really whet
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  Speaker 1: your appetite for Longhorn's game day at 3.30. 3.30 to 5.30
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  Speaker 1: will be Mike Hardball, Harge, Mark Henry, Jake Herman will
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  Speaker 1: be out there tomorrow, right? Yep, I'll be out there.
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  Speaker 1: Completely hydrated, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The hydrating starts tonight, Craig.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good idea. Smart move. So you guys will be
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  Speaker 1: out there at Bevo Boulevard in that Winship area. We
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  Speaker 1: used to say Winship Circle. It's less a circle and
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  Speaker 1: more an area now, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's flat now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Still the same food trucks, though.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe some new offerings if you haven't been down there,
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  Speaker 5: if you didn't make it out for the Texas State game.
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  Speaker 1: So you say it's flat now. It's not so much
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  Speaker 1: a circle. Remember the Matthew McConaughey thing? How about a
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  Speaker 1: flat circle? A dime is a flat circle.
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  Speaker 5: If you're just tuning in, you're not subscribed to the
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  Speaker 5: audio book for green lights.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys will be out there at 3.30. Network
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  Speaker 1: pregame at 5.30. The kickoff, I'm told, 6.49 p.m. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: you got time to go to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you do.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of time to get in there and get
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  Speaker 1: rehydrated and all that kind of stuff. And we got
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  Speaker 1: some good things we're going to present in our network
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  Speaker 1: pregame as well. So that's to let you know that
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  Speaker 1: our game day coverage will begin at 2.30 with the
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  Speaker 1: third and Longhorn podcast, guys. So they'll bring that to
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  Speaker 1: you first. And then our Longhorn's game day program will
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  Speaker 1: be at 3.30 and then 5.30, the network pregame. And
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  Speaker 1: that will start on 98.1 FM KVET because we have
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  Speaker 1: Round Rock Express game here on the zone. But obviously,
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  Speaker 1: all of the pregame listening will be right here on
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  Speaker 1: the zone and then just flip over to 98.1 FM KVET,
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  Speaker 1: the home of Austin's all-time country favorites. You flip over
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  Speaker 1: that for the game broadcast as well. I'm also told,
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who want to know, I've had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people ask me about it. I think
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  Speaker 1: we do have the in-stadium frequency where you can listen
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  Speaker 1: at 89.9 FM, 89.9 inside the stadium and in real
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  Speaker 1: time off of that. So there's that as well. Coming up,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, in a few minutes, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: have that segment from the show. We will have Inconceivable.
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  Speaker 1: This is, after all, Friday. And what does Friday mean
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  Speaker 1: with Inconceivable, Jake?
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  Speaker 5: Well, for the folks maybe listening in over at Covert
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  Speaker 5: Fort of Austin that hadn't heard it yet, a trip
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  Speaker 5: down to the Sunshine State, home of Eric Henry, coincidentally enough.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: The most flaccid of the lower 48. To grab the
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  Speaker 5: low-hanging fruit, that is Florida Man Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we have, I have to look at this. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it is Florida. There's some sports with this Florida Man
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  Speaker 1: installment and some other things as well. So we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that. And so that's what we have coming up
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  Speaker 1: in this now 53-minute edition of the program to bring you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start off with what many programs were
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  Speaker 1: starting off today, including ESPN SportsCenter and local newscast. And
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  Speaker 1: that is commemorating the 25th anniversary of the 9-11 national
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  Speaker 1: tragedy that happened.
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  Speaker 3: It has.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, observances are going on across the nation for this. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you continue to have the thoughts and prayers
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  Speaker 1: with those who were affected by the tragedy, those who
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  Speaker 1: lost loved ones there, those whose lives were forever changed,
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  Speaker 1: not only by what happened with the terrorist attacks, but those,
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  Speaker 1: the first responders whose lives were forever altered. even in
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  Speaker 1: shortening their own lives due to the dangerous environment that
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  Speaker 1: they were in and trying to rescue as many as
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  Speaker 1: they could and the long-term health effects that happened as
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  Speaker 1: a result of that. That's why today there was the
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  Speaker 1: observance that had been going on every year of the
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  Speaker 1: six seconds that happened with the first plane hitting the
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  Speaker 1: first of the towers, the Twin Towers. They've added a
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  Speaker 1: second this year, and that is also to remember the
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  Speaker 1: first responders who were involved with this. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that is right and proper as well. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: that's come from this is that, and it's unfortunate that
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  Speaker 1: it's happened this way, but we've come to find out
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  Speaker 1: that with few exceptions, When we get into the category of,
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  Speaker 1: I remember where I was when fill in the blank.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the time, the fill in the blank was
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  Speaker 1: a national tragedy or a disaster. A lot of the
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  Speaker 1: older school folks remember where they were with the JFK assassination.
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  Speaker 1: I was three years old, so I have no memory
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  Speaker 1: of that. But on the positive side, Many, many people
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  Speaker 1: remember where they were with the first moon landing and
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  Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong, one small step for men, one giant leap
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  Speaker 1: for mankind. I was not quite nine years old, but
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  Speaker 1: I remember sitting on my parents' living room carpet, watching
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  Speaker 1: that on television with my grandparents and aunt and uncle
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  Speaker 1: and my parents and my brothers and my sister, and
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  Speaker 1: we were all just attuned to it. And I do
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  Speaker 1: think that a lot of folks remember where they were,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the sporting world. A lot of folks remember
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  Speaker 1: where they were when the shutdown happened with the COVID-19 pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: when it launched there in March of 2020. I know
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  Speaker 1: that I will never forget being courtside. We were actually
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  Speaker 1: on the air doing local pregame. And I was about
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  Speaker 1: to break away from that clear, our broadcast communications to
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  Speaker 1: reconnect to our Learfield studios for the network broadcast that
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  Speaker 1: was going to begin at 11 a.m. on that Friday
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  Speaker 1: because Texas was playing Texas Tech in the quarterfinals of
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  Speaker 1: the Big 12 tournament, and that was an 11.30 tip-off.
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  Speaker 1: So it was about 10.50 a.m. We were still on
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  Speaker 1: the air, and I was about to clear it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. the director of basketball operations for Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Cody Hatt, walked by. I could see him. The teams
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  Speaker 1: had been out on the floor warming up. And then
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  Speaker 1: they all went in at the same time. Not altogether unusual,
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  Speaker 1: but they all kind of turned pretty quickly and ran inside.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw the coaches going inside. And Cody, who was, again,
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  Speaker 1: the director of operations for basketball, looked across the table
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  Speaker 1: and saw me talking on the air, wearing the head
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  Speaker 1: And our eyes met. And he gave me the throat
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  Speaker 1: slash thing, like, it's not going to happen. And when
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  Speaker 1: I'd recorded the pregame interview that morning with Shaka Smart,
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  Speaker 1: he said, we can go ahead and do this. He said,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think we're going to play. And I said,
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  Speaker 1: do you know something?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, well, I know the athletic directors are meeting
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  Speaker 1: right now. And we went ahead and recorded it. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, it never aired. But we stayed on the
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  Speaker 1: air afterwards because we carried the press conference of Bob Bowlesby,
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  Speaker 1: the Big 12 commissioner, on what was happening. So always,
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  Speaker 1: I have a very clear memory and recollection of that.
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  Speaker 1: I also have a very clear memory and recollection of
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  Speaker 1: the morning of 9-11. I was not quite 41. It
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  Speaker 1: was 40 years old. It was five days before my birthday.
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  Speaker 1: And I was working here at this radio station, And
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  Speaker 1: in those days, we were doing a Thursday night high
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  Speaker 1: school football game of the week. And it was me
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  Speaker 1: calling it with Chad Hastings, who was on our staff,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he works with Orange Bloods now. So
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  Speaker 1: we had a game scheduled for that Thursday night. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: 9-11-2001 happened on a Tuesday. And two days after that,
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  Speaker 1: we were scheduled to broadcast a game between Kerrville-Tyvee and
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  Speaker 1: what is now Navarro College Prep, back then it was Lanier,
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  Speaker 1: our man on X, CB, the Twitter savant, he's a
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  Speaker 1: Lanier grad, and we were supposed to do that game
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  Speaker 1: in House Park, I had figured I would leave, I
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  Speaker 1: was due to drive, I was going to drive to
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  Speaker 1: Kerrville that morning, and meet with the head coach at
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  Speaker 1: the time, because I liked sitting down face to face,
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  Speaker 1: and then obviously getting, you know, the rosters, and the
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  Speaker 1: two deep lineups, and the stats, and all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, and it was only one game had been
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  Speaker 1: played so far that season. It was week number two.
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  Speaker 1: And I was planning to go and visit with him.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to drive down to Kerrville about an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half drive or so, maybe even a
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  Speaker 1: little further, but I was going to go that morning
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  Speaker 1: and meet with him like around nine o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up around 5 a.m. So I was going
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  Speaker 1: to leave the house about seven, but I woke up
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  Speaker 1: at 5 a.m. and I was sick, like had a bug.
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  Speaker 1: of some sort, sick as a dog, threw up, all
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  Speaker 1: that other kind of stuff. I go back to bed.
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  Speaker 1: What I did do was I called the field house
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  Speaker 1: and I left a voice message for coach. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to get it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: under the weather, still planning to do the game on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night. I'll come down and say hi before and
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  Speaker 1: all that other kind of stuff. And, you know, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And I went back to bed.
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  Speaker 1: So my phone rings and I slept I think I
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  Speaker 1: took some medicine and I, and I went back to
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  Speaker 1: sleep and I was sound asleep, slept through what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So at nine 30, Chad Hastings calls me. Chad said, Hey, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he goes, did you, did you go down the curve?
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, man, I've been sick this morning. And
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  Speaker 1: he said, Oh, okay. He goes, well, he goes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing now we, we, there's a good chance we probably
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  Speaker 1: won't be doing the game. And I said, what are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? I'll be fine. I'm sick right now.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, no, no, no, no. He goes, I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about what else? I said, what do you mean what else?
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  Speaker 1: He goes, you just woke up, right? And I said, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, I'll never forget him saying this. Turn on
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  Speaker 1: your TV. The world's gone crazy. And it's chewing up
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  Speaker 1: my spine. And so then I turned on the TV, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw everything that happened. Here at the radio station,
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  Speaker 1: we went 48 hours of news straight through. I think
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  Speaker 1: we were an ABC News affiliate back then. And we
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  Speaker 1: carried the news for like 48 hours. Oddly enough, ironically,
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  Speaker 1: we actually broadcast the game Thursday night. It went through. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as sporting events were being canceled all across the country,
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  Speaker 1: Texas was supposed to have played that weekend. No, Texas
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  Speaker 1: was not supposed to, but they kind of caught a break,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, on the schedule. It was an open
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  Speaker 1: date for the Longhorns. They'd already played and had an
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  Speaker 1: open date. So they were not scheduled to play that weekend.
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  Speaker 1: But college games, obviously NFL games, all these other contests
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  Speaker 1: were canceled, but not in the state of Texas. Because
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  Speaker 1: what happened was the UIL quickly canvassed all of its 1,200
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  Speaker 1: member schools to say, are you want to cancel the contest?
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  Speaker 1: And like 99% of them said no. We want to
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  Speaker 1: go through with this and, and come to find out
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  Speaker 1: that only two States in the United States canceled their
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  Speaker 1: games that weekend. One was the state of New York
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  Speaker 1: and the other might've been Massachusetts. I can't remember, but
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  Speaker 1: there were, there were only two, every other state in
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  Speaker 1: the United States that we're going to, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: carry off. We're going to have our bands do patriotic, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: pageants and programming and things like that. So we did
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  Speaker 1: the game Thursday night and it was a blowout. Ty
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  Speaker 1: V was really good that year and, than Lanier was not.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was something like 48-0 or 52-0. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was a blowout. But it was just so
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  Speaker 1: surreal and weird. And then the next night, Keith Moreland
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  Speaker 1: and I did the game between Westlake and A &
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  Speaker 1: M Consolidated. We went over to College Station. This was
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  Speaker 1: one of the three years that I did not do
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  Speaker 1: the television show, the scoreboard live. I didn't do it
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  Speaker 1: in 2008. in 2001, 2002, 2003, because I was dialing
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  Speaker 1: into becoming the play-by-play voice of the Longhorns after football
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  Speaker 1: in 01, starting with basketball. So I thought I'd be here.
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  Speaker 1: I ended up after that got, everything was going well enough.
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  Speaker 1: Then I went back on Friday nights to going up
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  Speaker 1: and doing the high school show from the studio. But
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  Speaker 1: that one year, 01, Keith and I were doing Westlake
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  Speaker 1: games on this radio station. And we went over to
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  Speaker 1: A & M Consolidated to do the game in College Station.
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  Speaker 1: And they had this huge combined marching band, patriotic halftime performance.
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  Speaker 1: It was really kind of touching. It was very, very
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  Speaker 1: nicely done. And we did that. And Wesley got upset
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  Speaker 1: that night. A & M Consolidated beat them. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was 14 to 10 or something like that. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the very clear, right? I also remember my mom,
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  Speaker 1: my mother was working for the federal bankruptcy court in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas and he evacuated federal buildings. all across the country.
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  Speaker 1: And she worked for the federal bankruptcy court for over
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  Speaker 1: 20 years. And they moved all of the employees out
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  Speaker 1: that afternoon, sent them home afterwards. And that was the
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  Speaker 1: Earl Cabell Federal Building in the middle of downtown Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Because nobody knew where the next strike might happen, if
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  Speaker 1: indeed it did. After the three that happened, the two
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  Speaker 1: that hit the towers, and then the one that landed,
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  Speaker 1: it crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. So sad to say that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us, unfortunately, remember where we were on
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  Speaker 1: the day of tragic events. And that's why we remember
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  Speaker 1: that like it was. That was the year you were born,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't it, 01?
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  Speaker 2: I was born in 2000.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Still too young to remember.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason why I just say that, I know
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  Speaker 1: people have different memories of that day what happened afterwards
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  Speaker 1: and I'll always remember that that it was a it
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  Speaker 1: was a bizarre surreal thing and football games were played
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  Speaker 1: across the state of Texas I don't think anybody felt
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  Speaker 1: quite right about it but the school administrators wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go through with this so it was that they did
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  Speaker 1: and and we broadcast a game football a football game
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  Speaker 1: 48 hours afterwards a little over 48 hours after the
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  Speaker 1: tragedy and then the next night as well and I'll
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  Speaker 1: always remember that being on the roof of House Park
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  Speaker 1: and how strange it was that night calling a game.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get back on track here. We're going to hear
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  Speaker 1: from Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkeesian. We'll also hear from
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  Speaker 1: Mack Brown in that segment of Longhorn Weekly that aired
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  Speaker 1: last night. We'll bring you that segment. Take a look
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  Speaker 1: at the Ohio State Buckeyes today on 13 Under the Zone.
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  Speaker 3: My city of ruins. My city of ruins.
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  Speaker 1: The great Bruce Springsteen with My City in Ruins, which was, what,
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  Speaker 1: put on the album and was dedicated to what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Even though the song was written prior to 9-11, is
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  Speaker 1: that right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was working on his album that came out
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  Speaker 5: in 2002.
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  Speaker 2: It's called The Rising.
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  Speaker 5: This was written about Asbury Park, but it quickly became
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  Speaker 5: a 9-11 New York City anthem that was played at
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: benefit concerts and Message of Hope.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, made sure of that. All right, we continue on
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon on 13 Under the Zone. Of course,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Texas and Ohio State tomorrow. Have you seen what ticket
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: prices are going for now?
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, I've seen what people have listed a few
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: tickets at. The outliers are crazy, but I have not
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: checked the get-in price in a while.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Let me check right now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I thought the get-in price was in the several hundred
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: dollar range.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I see 450 at the cheapest right now for a
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: pair of tickets.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: There's a couple singles out there in the 400s that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: are lower.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But there are people that are paying like $ 10, 000 and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: stuff for, you know, and I think maybe that's to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: be in sweet. I don't know. But I've heard five-figure numbers.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at anything in the lower bowl is going
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: to be about $ 700 or more.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: So it must be some other package or something that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: brings about that kind of money. Great anticipation, clearly, about
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the game. Last night on Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, our special guest was the Hall of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Fame coach, Mack Brown, who, of course, coached three head-to-head
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: matchups against the Buckeyes, won two of those, the national
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: championship season of 05. Then after losing to them here
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in 06, the last time Ohio State was here in Austin, 2006,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: which was a fourth quarter game and went down, even
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: though it wound up being the final 24-7, it was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: still a tight contest in the fourth quarter before the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Buckeyes pulled away James Laurinaitis had a big interception that
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: he's on the Ohio State staff now. And then, of course,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that memorable Fiesta Bowl following the 2008 season where Texas
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: had that final drive down the field. Colt McCoy to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: our friend and colleague, Quan Cosby, for the touchdown pass
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that proved to be the game winner. They won that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: contest 24-21. Great game that one was. So Mac was
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the head coach of that. And it's usually at this
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: point of the program where late in the program where
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Sark and I break down the opponent and talk about,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the challenge. And we did that with some
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: input as well for Mac Brown last night on Longhorn Weekly.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: You remember this from the times when we used to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: do the show. And by the way, Sark, maybe you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: should think about this, the week of Mississippi State, which
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is Halloween week. We have a show on Longhorn Weekly
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: where Mac– put on an actual i guess it was
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: an alien type halloween mask did the whole show you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that really did the whole show
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: i did we must have lost happy play i.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: Think we either got beat that game or i did
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: the soldier boy dance before oklahoma state we were down
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: 35 14 at halftime on i mean in the third
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: quarter on the road so we said not doing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: That anymore but.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: We did come.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: Back and win, and we had Jamal Charles.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, we did.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: But some of that stuff doesn't work.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: The point I was going to make is that this
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: is normally the portion of the program where we talk
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: about the opponent, and we talk quite a bit about him.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But I know, Sark, there are certain things about Ryan
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Day's ball club that really leap off the page to you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Well, they really do.
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: And I know coaches touched on this, but they have
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: two NFL head coaches as their coordinators, as their play callers.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: And Arthur Smith and Matt Patricia, and these guys are
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: really good. And they've devised schemes on both sides of
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: the ball that are high level. They've got players in
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: their program that have aspirations of playing in the NFL.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: So they're running NFL schemes. They want to do well
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: at them. So they tax you schematically. And then they've
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: got talent, right? And you combine those two things. There's
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: a reason that I'm one team in the country, right?
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: And there's a reason over the last, you know, six,
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: seven years, they've been in the mix year in and
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: year out. They won the national title a couple of
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: years ago after they beat us. They've been in the mix. They've, they've,
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: they've been in and around this thing and hovering around.
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: It's not on accident. They've got really good players. You know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: Ryan's done a fantastic job. He's got tremendous support, uh, from,
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: from a financial standpoint, which we all have to have
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: in this day and age. He's got two really good
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: coordinators and he's got a talented team, you know, and,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: and so it's not on accident there. They're, they're, they
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: are the number one team in the country. Um, and then,
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: you know, that's, That's the part, as we touched on,
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: that's the part you love. You love the opportunity. Because
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: you know what? We think we've got a pretty good team.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: I think I've got really good coaches. I know I've
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: got great support. I know we've got a great venue
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: to play in Saturday night in DKR, and it's going
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: to be rocking. So it sets the stage for an
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: epic showdown. And now we've got to make sure we're
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: doing the work and focusing on the details so that
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: when those moments come, we can execute at a high level.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Mack, you were asked about this when you were coaching
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: here about trying to get guys to a crescendo. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I remember Coach Royal talking about not letting them play
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the game in their mind on Tuesday when you had
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to build up to that. So, I mean, when you
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: had games like this, and there were games like this,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: how did you approach it during the week with the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: guys in terms of the buildup without it getting too
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: high too early?
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: Early when I was here, we had a great Tuesday practice.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: And Coach Royal was out there before Oklahoma. And I
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: walked off the field and I was so pumped. God,
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: we're ready to play and we look good. And he said,
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: better be really careful, son. He said, you might have
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: played the game today.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: We got the hell beat out of us.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: And I mean, we look flat. We stunk.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: And even Thursday was okay. But you got to be
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: careful that you show up on time. I do think
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: that Steve, he's been a tremendous head coach in college.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: He's got a lot of college experience. He's got some
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: pro experience. Ryan.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Same thing. He's got some pro experience.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: I think right now with playoffs, games like this, you've
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: got to play every week. Everybody hates Texas. Everybody hates Texas.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: It's everybody's rival. Everybody hates Ohio State. These two, Jim
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: Trestle and I stood on the field before the game
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: up there and said these jobs are just alike. It's
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: warmer here. Both in the capital. Both have tremendous support.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: Both have states that are full of athletes, so you've
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: got to evaluate. You've got to develop. Both have, we
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: called it pride, but it's pressure. He said, if you
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: don't win by enough, they're mad.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: If you don't win, they're real mad.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: If you don't win twice, then once you're fired.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: And he said, and that's a good thing to be
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: at schools like that that care so much. But I
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: do think all of that helps in these situations.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: I remember we played Bill O'Brien at Boston College, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: I loved what he did offensively. And on Sunday, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: would go in and study what he did against us.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: And said, you know what? That makes so much sense.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: God, that's something we should be doing. And that'll be
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: fun Sunday with you to sit there and say, here's
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: what Patricia, here's what he thought. And here's how he
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: tried to cover Cam and Ryan.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: And that's fun.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: That's what you do this stuff for is you're constantly
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: a learning machine. And that'll be, it's like checkers when
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: you're seeing him in the game. And then you see
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: what's Patricia going to do this year. He did different
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: than last year. Arch is further along this year. The
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: offense is further along. So what's he going to do differently?
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: That's so much fun. And Arthur, who knows what he's
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: going to do because he didn't do anything against Ball State.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: And then there's Muschamp who's new. There's Arthur who's new.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: So that's going to be a, chess match. It's going
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: to be so cool. I can't wait to watch.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Arthur, of course, being Arthur Smith, the new offensive coordinator
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and a former NFL head coaching coordinator. And of course,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia in his second season as the defensive coordinator
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Coming up on Longhorn game day tomorrow, I'll take a
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: look at some of those Arthur Smith tendencies, how he's
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: talked about maybe using Jeremiah Smith and how things might
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: look a little different for Ohio State's offense this year.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: All right, we have Inconceivable coming up here on this
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Friday on 1300 The Zone. It's college football roundtable.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Say goodnight to this one.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Touchdown, Texas.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Mike Hardball-Harch, Mark Henry, and Cameron Parker.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: It is not Cameron Parker. It is our guy Eric
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Henry of Horns247. com. He is in the house. I am
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: your host, Mike Harbaugh Harge, the world's strongest man. D.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Mark Henry is in the building. He will be on
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: air in just a moment. But we want you to
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: make sure that you get over to Covert Ford of Austin,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: 11514 Research Boulevard. to come and hang out. We're going
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: to give you an opportunity to win a pair of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: tickets to the hottest ticket in town. Everybody wants to
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: be in attendance for this game this weekend. The city's
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: on fire, literally, because of the fact that everybody wants
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to be at this game. But before we get into
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the talk of this game, as we mentioned, we are
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: here at Covert Ford of Austin. But the thing that
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I really want to get into is, We always talk
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: about vehicles. You want to be able to drive a
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: car that's reliable. And obviously, this young man that I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: about to introduce you to is the person who understands
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: what it takes to take care of your vehicle. His
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: name is Rick Fogle. He purchased a 1995 Ford F-250
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: XL from Cover Ford right here on Research in 1995.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: You know when you go and buy a car and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: it said it's only had one owner? He is literally...
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: The only person who has owned this vehicle, and he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: owned it so long that he's got over 377,000 miles
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: on the car. They always tell you about being Ford tough.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: He is the true example of what it means to
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: being Ford tough. So thank you, Rick, for joining the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: show today. And I really want to understand this. Like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: when you bought the vehicle, how many miles was on it?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Well that's a good question that I cannot answer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: What?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Because it didn't have very many. There it is. Maybe
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: less than 20.
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: Now, that was January of 1995. That was the last
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: time I was here at Colbert Ford.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Until today.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Until today, and it's 31 years later. So I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: 42 years old when I rolled in. I had a
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: 93 F100, or 150, half-ton pickup.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: Had a six-cylinder, and I felt it was just a
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: little underpowered, and I wanted something a little bigger. So
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: I was talking to a salesman, and he said, well,
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: we've got this truck over here. It's a three-quarter ton XL,
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: and it's got a 5.8. And I said, it sounds like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: I said, all I need is a big motor.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: That's power right there.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: All I need is a big motor and air conditioning.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and a radio. Right.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: And it had all that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: So I said, okay, I'll buy it. I think it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: stickered for $ 19, 100.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: That was going.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: To be my next question. So I'm glad you asked that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I answered that because you start looking around and you're
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: seeing how the prices have changed and all the vehicles
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: have changed, but you've been steady the entire time. What
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: is the key for someone to keep a vehicle like
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: this for that very long and And continue to roll it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: You told me today, what, you drove over 100 miles
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: today to get here? Yeah, it was 110 miles.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: I live in Mason County, which is a little county
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: west of here. And it's so sparsely populated out there
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: that we don't have a single stoplight in the entire county.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Wow. And that's where we live.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: We have a little place north of Fredericksburg, 10 acres, and.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: We've got a house and got a horse and a...
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: some chickens, and three little cows.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: And that's where we live. And I make that commute
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: into Fredericksburg five days a week. It's about 25 miles
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: one way. And then I drive around quite a bit
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: in town. I drive that truck five days a week.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: And on the weekend, I've got my toy truck. And
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: I won't say what brand it is, but I drive
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: it on the weekends.
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: Did you do all your service here? So you would
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: come in here and just.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: One time.
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: One time.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: He hadn't been in here. No, this is the first...
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: When I.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: First came here in 95, I just turned 42 years old.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I was in my prime.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: I was feeling pretty good.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: That truck was flat and it was really pretty and
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: didn't have anything on it special.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So I said, you know, I like that truck.
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: And now, 31 years later, a couple of months from now,
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: I'm going to be.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: 74 years old.
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: You sit there and you look at it and you
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: said you've had it for 31 years. I was talking
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to your brother. You're one of 11. in your family,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: and how many times have they asked you to drive
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: your truck?
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Well, not, never.
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: I think they already knew the answer.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: He knew the answer.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Let's see, my wife drove it maybe a total of
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: 75 miles in 31 years. I did teach my grandson
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: how to drive in that truck when he was 10
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: years old. We went on the little dirt roads there
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: in Mason County, and we'd go on the back roads,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: and the only thing I really had to say to
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: him all the time.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: We're driving is, Cayman, slow down a little bit.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: Right, right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: He got a heavy foot because nowadays in these vehicles,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: there's a little bit different. It's a different kind of
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: push when you get ready to drive a little bit.
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: Yes, it is.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I do want to ask you this, too, because you
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: mentioned it. You taught your grandson how to drive. How
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: old were you when you learned how to drive, and
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: what type of vehicle was that that you were driving?
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Wow, good question. Well, is this.
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: Uh legal driver okay legal see i'm we were farmers
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: we come from a farming background and uh my dad
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: was an only child son and he said you know
• 33:28
  Speaker 14: when i when i get.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Married and have kids i'm gonna have a lot of
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: kids so he had eight boys and three girls and
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: so he had a lot of farm farm labor right
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: there so i learned to drive a truck when i
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: was 10 years old i can't tell you what it
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: was but I did, when I took my license, when
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: I was 16, it was a 1968 Ford 100.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: There it is. And that's where I learned.
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: The only trouble with that truck was it didn't make
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: a good car date truck.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Didn't have no back seat?
• 33:56
  Speaker 15: No.
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: You're talking about the back seat.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: With lap belts. Yeah, they had to make sure.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: They had the lap belts back then. They didn't have
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: the shoulder belt.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited to hear about that, especially, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: we're here at Cobra Ford, Austin. This is where you
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: bought your first vehicle, well, your vehicle of $ 377, 000. thousand
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: miles right there well that is definitely a commitment you're
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: a ford driver you understand what it's about you've had
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: your mustang for quite some time as well i mean
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: you drove from florida how many miles have you put
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: on that thing you know i was gonna ask.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: You what's the furthest you've driven your truck because i've
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: taken my mustang which i parked on the other side
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: of the property here i've taken to florida and i'm
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: like all right you know it's still holding pretty well
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: but it's it's a newer car what's the furthest you've
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: driven that truck Austin, Texas.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Come from Basie County, right? Maybe Dallas? Alpha, 110 miles.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You got something for him, Mark? Because you understand what
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: it's like to have a vehicle and put some miles
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: on it. Listen, I have drove a million miles in
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: my life between rental cars and my own cars.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: And.
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: I love driving, and there's nothing better than the smell
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: of a new car. When you sit down, and we
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: perused the parking lot and all of these beautiful trucks
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: out here, and you sit down in them, and it
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: smelled like crayons out the box. I get a little
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: emotional when I start talking about my car.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: It's the crayons out the box? Yeah, them big ones, though.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: Like the big ones?
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it. Well, we're
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: thankful that you are still able to drive that. You
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: are a testimonial for Ford being built Ford tough. Yes, sir.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: And the folks here at Cobra Ford of Austin right
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: here on 183. All I can say is, wow, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: continue to keep the maintenance because I saw your laundry
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: list of things that need to be done. And I
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: tell you, they need to make sure that they do
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: everything to preserve that vehicle for you. You should get
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: all your maintenance for free. You can tell them I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 36:11
  Speaker 14: From your mouth to God's ears.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Well, we want to thank you for joining
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: us today. Be safe driving back. The only problem that
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I have really is you got a TCU shirt on today.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And it's a big Friday up here, but represent your
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: school the way you want to.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: Well, my granddaughter went to TCU, but my brother right
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: over there, he went to UT.
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Well, he's winning. He's winning. He's winning. And so is
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: UT this week. We got it covered. Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: His name is Rick Fogle. He has been driving this
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: truck 377,000 plus miles. and he purchased it right here
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: where we are today at Covert Ford of Austin. When
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: we come back, we're going to continue the conversations. We're
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: going to get after it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: Texas has a big game this weekend.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Did y'all hear about that? We'll talk about it right
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: here on AM 1300 The Zone, live from Covert Ford
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: of Austin, right here off of 183. Get over here,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: sign up for tickets, get some Rudy's barbecue. We got
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: some of that. You better hurry. Mark is here, so
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: he might eat it all. It's going to be gone.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: You heard where we are.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Make sure you come out here. Come buy a vehicle.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: They've been waiting out here. I see all the salespeople.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: They're running around. They're trying to get busy. Yeah. They
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: are ready to sell some vehicles, and this is the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: place to be. 183 Research Boulevard, right by Rudy's. Oh,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: did I mention Rudy's? They got some food out here, too,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: but you better hurry up. Mark is hungry, and you
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: know he's going to eat. I am eyeballing this box
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: So we got my man Eric Henry of Horns 247.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: You can hear him every Thursday with us at 734,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: breaking it down. But he's also part of our college
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: game day. He's going to come down to Bevo Boulevard.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: We will start tomorrow at 330. All the action. It
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: is busy, busy, busy. And you just heard the world's
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: strongest man in WWE Hall of Famer, our guy, Mark Henry.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: You can listen to Mark and I Monday through Friday,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: 6 to 9 a.m. on AM 1300 The Zone and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: always free on the iHeartRadio app. Make sure you come
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: down here and get a chance to win a pair
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: of tickets to the game tomorrow. And, of course, you
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: get a chance to win some Thomas Rhett tickets as well.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be a busy time tomorrow. But
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: let's get into it, man. This is the matchup of
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the early part of the season. We thought that, obviously,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: being Texas Longhorn fans and being the flagship station for
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: the University of Texas, this is priority number one. You
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: think about the Oklahoma and Michigan game, that'll be priority
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: number two. But all eyes are in Austin, Texas, this weekend.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: And E... You were at the presser yesterday. Well, you
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: were on the Zoom with everybody yesterday. You've heard Coach
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Sark talk about this. This is a big week for
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Coach Steve Sarkeesian. No doubt about it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: You know, when you look at Steve Sarkeesian throughout his career,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: he's someone who you go back to his time at Washington, right?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Had the nickname Seven Wind Sark. He's, you know, earned
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: that dubious distinction of Seven Wind Sark because his teams
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: routinely went seven and six, seven and five, right? We
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: also know USC short set. We know what happened there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: He gets the opportunity here at Texas. His career has
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: taken off really over the last three and a half
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: years as far as being that guy who, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: when he would graduate from the Pete Carroll coaching tree.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: You thought he would be.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: But the one knock against him, Mark and Harge, is this.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: If you look at Steve Sarkeesian's tenure at Texas, he
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: has a record against the AP top 25 of 16 wins,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: 14 losses. However, When you flesh that out and you
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: say AP top 10, right? Because Texas should beat up
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: on the number 20, number 22 teams. You flesh out
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: to AP top 10, four and nine, five of those losses,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: three to Georgia, two to Ohio State. This is an
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: opportunity for Steve Sarkeesian to get that proverbial monkey off
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: his back.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Get that get back.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Get that get back and not, Mark, build into a
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: narrative of, oh, Steve Sarkeesian has a Ryan Day and
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: a Kirby Smart problem.
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: Well, I mean, it's true. Like he has a Ryan
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: Day and a Kirby Smart problem. And the only way
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: to do it is to exercise the demons. And those
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: demons will get done tomorrow. I can promise you that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: This team has got so much talent on it. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: I heard a comment that somebody made that said, this
• 40:37
  Speaker 11: team looks like the Alabama and Georgia teams when they
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: were going back to back.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: So when you get a team that looks like it
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: when they.
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: Get off the bus and then they get in the
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: stadiums and they perform like it, then you end up
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: with a legacy like Steve Sark, I feel like, deserves.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Well, the one thing that I continue, and both of
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: those are great points, but you sit here and you
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: look at this game. Most of those games that he's
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: been able to play in haven't been at home. Most
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of those games have been on the road. Yeah, Alabama
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: was on the road.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: They should have beat.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Alabama with that. Phantom Call in the end zone with
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Tavondre Sweat bringing down Bryce Young. That could have been
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: a different one. But then you go and slay the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Dragon in Tuscaloosa. That's a big one for them. You
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: go up last year, and regardless, they lost. I get it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: But you go and look at the numbers. Overall, he
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: had one. They played well. They just didn't finish in
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: the red zone. And that's the other part of this
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: equation is– What is he going to do when things
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: get tight? Not tight as in, oh my gosh, they're
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: at the end of the game. No, what is he
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: going to do in that tight area where the spacing
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: is different, the moments are different? How is he going
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: to get over that hump about, remember, everybody's always talking
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: about he needs a play caller. He needs to get
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator in that room. Well, go out there
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and make the right calls and have the playmakers to
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: make those plays may change the narrative on him in
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: that situation.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I'll take the baton from you right there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: You talk about having the playmakers, right? I said this
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: on the show with you guys yesterday in the morning.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I think having Cam Coleman as that number one receiver,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: this is no disrespect to Ryan Wingo, but when you
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: have two more or less bona fide number ones, right,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: out there, it gives the defense something else to account
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: for so they can't just.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Pack the box. Now, listen, the play, you know, you
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: go back to the Red.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: River shootout 2023, four tries from the one-yard line.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: That was a failure.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: The Ohio State game in the Cotton Bowl, That was
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: a play that was a busted play, right? But the
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: point I'm getting at where I land is this. I
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: think you have more options as a play caller when
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: you're not just saying, hey, we're going to turn around
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: and pound it, you know, to your running back and
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: try to get them that one yard or two yards.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: When you want to go to Cam Coleman and say, hey,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: like Mark, we saw it against Texas State. Hollywood Smothers
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: takes it down to the six yard line. Boom, you
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: go to Cam Coleman, you have something to account for.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Texas State is Ohio State. I'm just
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: saying conceptually, you can do those things.
• 43:03
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm thinking that it's 10 against 11. Because Cam
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: Coleman is going to draw two people. And then you
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: got to take advantage of that. And sometimes it's the
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: running game. But you have Ryan Wingo. And I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: that Ryan is a guy that's crafty enough. And he's
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: bigger than he was last year. I didn't recognize him.
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: Hart sent me a picture.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: And I said, who is that?
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: He said, man, that's Ryan Wingo. I said, no, it's not.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: And he said, yes, it is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: That dude has gained like 10 pounds, and he grew
• 43:39
  Speaker 11: an inch. So, like, he's still a kid. By the
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: time this season is over, I think that Ryan Wingo
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: will establish himself as one of the top five wide
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: receivers in the country, and everybody's going to be like
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: me in the mornings when I do the world's strongest take.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Back then, they didn't want me.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Now I'm hot.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: They all want me.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing about it is, too, people may have
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: sounded like they forgot about it, But if you listen
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: to Sark, Sark hadn't forgot about it. He makes sure
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that everybody understands that Ryan Wingo was a second-team All-SEC performer,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: even with the drops that he had last year. Think
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: about the numbers that he could have put up if
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: he didn't have those. But I think for me, the
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: moment of truth will be that first time in the
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: red zone to try to see what Sark's going to
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: be able to do. Is he going to be able
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: to punch it in? Do they execute the play properly?
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Because that is another part of it as well. Some
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: of these guys missing a block, not doing the things
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: that they need to do, pushing through. certain things, you've
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: got to find a way to get it done. And
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: those big uglies, those seniors and those not seniors, because
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if anybody is a senior anymore.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: There's guys that have been on campus for more than
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: four years. Now you've got to try to find out
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: how I'm going to get things done and make things happen.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: Question for you.
• 45:02
  Speaker 11: How does Texas score first? Pass and end zone or
• 45:08
  Speaker 11: pass and run or do they run the ball in?
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Well, OK, you got a lot of options. I'm going
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: to answer the question and say I believe it'll be
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: a run. However, let's not forget this. Texas in some
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: of these games against Georgia, against Ohio State, they failed
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: to score early. So you say, how do they score first?
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Let's hope that they score early.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: No matter.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And I'm going with a run. I'm just saying I
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: don't think this can be a game. Now, Texas defense
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: is certainly, I think, equipped to handle what may be
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: thrown at them. But this is not a game where
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I think you want to find your footing. This can't
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: be Georgia at home 2024. We remember where you end
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: up down 23-0 at halftime, and your defense is giving
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: the offense chances, but the offense couldn't find its footing.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: It can't be that type of game.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Well, what I'm thinking is, and this is kind of
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: going back to what Arch has talked about, what Coach
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Shark has talked about, this team's got to start fast.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: They have to come out and be aggressive and make
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: things happen. I always tell my son, my son's always
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: talking about this. My son DJ plays basketball. He always
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: talks about, I'm just trying to see how they're going
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: to play me.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Fill them out.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: No, there's no filling out. Yeah, you're the one that
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: dictates what's going to happen. You set the tone in
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: this ballgame, and that's what I think Texas is going
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: to do. I thought last week they should have taken
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: the ball first. They won the toss. I said, take
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the ball, go score, and then put them behind the number.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Now this is a different type. Let's see what happens.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Y'all can defer to the second half. But if they
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: win the toss... You have no choice. Go down and
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: score first. And to answer your question, I see Texas
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: kicking a field goal first to get in there because
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: you've got to take those points. No matter where they are,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: you have to take points in this ballgame. It's a
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: one-and-a-half-point game. No doubt. It's a one-and-a-half-point game, so you
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: want to make sure that you're ahead, and then you're
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: going to see what Will Muschamp's team is going to
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: be able to do.
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: Well, these guys had trouble stopping the run, and they
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: played ball state. So Texas should be able to do
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: what Steve Sarkeesian said, is run the ball because they
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: have practiced 10 and 16 play drives, all runs, just
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: to get acclimated. And I also think we underestimate, everybody's
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: out here with the fans and we got coolant. These guys,
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: they've been in Ohio, it's been 81 degrees. They're going
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: to come here, and they're going to feel what 100
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: degrees feels like, and then 140 or 150 on the field.
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: It's just like going to Denver. That high altitude plays
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: a part, and this heat is.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Going to play a part.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Harge, I'll offer a quick nugget on that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I know you guys are trying to talk to our
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: guy Pat Murphy over at Buck Nuts, but one of
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: the things he offered us is that what Ohio State's
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: trying to do to prepare for.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: The heat, and again, you can't really prepare for this heat, right?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Those who may know, Mark, I'm sure you know this.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: They're practicing in sweaters. Well, I'm sure you know this.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Ohio State's a big-time wrestling school, right? And what they
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: do is they actually join the wrestlers in the sauna. Now,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: they didn't say whether they're out there practicing in the sauna,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: but they're trying to do all types of things. One
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: of our guys told us that when you went inside
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: their practice bubble, the heat was on. instead of, you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: just a regular A.C. So they're trying to do things.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: But to your point, Mark, and I agree, I'm a Floridian.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And you knew how hot it was.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Nothing prepares you for Texas heat.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: So you can do whatever you want. It's not going
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: to help you. Well, I do, when we come back,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I do want to push back on what Mark said
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: about that running game and what they were able to
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: do versus Ball State and all that other stuff. Because
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Let's not forget, Texas State ran the ball well against
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Texas last week, too. So that would be the same
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: conversation that they are having. We're rolling right here on
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: 183 at Cobra Ford of Austin. Come up here, get
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: you some Rudy's, get you something to eat and enjoy yourself.
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: By the way, there's a ball game that is happening
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: at DKR tomorrow. So there's a ticket giveaway.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come on down and hang out as we will
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: be here until five o'clock but coming up next we're
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: going to continue the conversations i want to get eric's
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: thoughts and mark's thoughts on the wide receiver position because
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: they will be a factor right here on What are
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: we calling this? Party at Covert?
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: Let's do that.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Covert Austin right here on 183. Don't go anywhere.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: Ooh, that's funky.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: We are really, really live, folks. I'm talking about live, live.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: You got to get over here to Covert Ford of Austin,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: right here off of 183. They close at 8 o'clock.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: We'll be here till 5. Come and get you a
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: new vehicle, but most importantly, get a chance to win
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: a pair of tickets to UT versus Ohio State tomorrow night, DKR,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Texas Memorial Stadium. That game kicks off at 6.30. We
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: will be at Bevo Boulevard tomorrow starting at 3.30 with
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Longhorns game day. We'll have myself, Mark Henry, Eric Henry
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: of Horns 247.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: And, of course, we'll have our guy.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Jake Herman as well leading you up to network with
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Craig Way, Roger Wallace, and Will Matthews, and they will
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: bring you the game. All eyes are on you. The
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: city of Austin, ESPN is here getting ready for game day.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: The city is buzzing downtown. Celebrity on top of celebrity
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that's out here. It is going to be a movie.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: But when we went to break, we were talking about
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the fact that this matchup has got stars everywhere. The
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: star potential is evident. When you look at the skill
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: position players, you have guys that we all expect to
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: be in the first round second round there will be
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: over 20 guys that are playing on this field drafted
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: next year and a year after that because it's going
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: to continue to happen if they all decide to come
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: out because there's still that part of it but the
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: wide receiver positions are led by camp coleman gets all
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: the highlights for the university of texas as we mentioned
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: coach shark says don't forget about ryan wingo he's a
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: all sec performer but when you go to ohio state
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: jeremiah smith is the one that everybody's talking about. But
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I was talking to a buddy earlier today, and you
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: start to think about Ole Miss State. They can be
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: recognized as wide receiver Ute. LSU has their claim to fame,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: and you look at the money there. But look at
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: the money in the NFL that has come out of
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Ohio State at the wide receiver position. It's going to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: continue to get better, as we mentioned. There's going to
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: be some guys drafted. Jeremiah Smith is somebody that people
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: might even have him as the number one overall pick,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: at least the most talented player. But this is going
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: to be a game where maybe the stars aren't it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: We know about Emmitt Mosley. We know about Ryan Wingo.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: But who are some of the guys that you know, Eric,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: from Ohio State that the folks might need to pay
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: attention to not name Jeremiah Smith?
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Harge, to your point, right, you talk about Jeremiah
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Smith and him being a star, but the stars might
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: not be the focal point as far as who decides
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: this game. Jeremiah Smith in two meetings against Texas has
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: seven receptions. for 46 yards, no touchdowns, not exactly eye-popping numbers.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: But part of the reason Ohio State is 2-0 in
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: these meetings is Cardinal Tate, Emeka Egbuka, of course, Tambay Buccaneer.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: You got to throw that in there. I got to
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: throw that in there. But those guys made plays.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: And, Mark, to Harge's point, as far as Ohio State
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: possibly being wide receiver, you They've continued recruiting well. They
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: actually got a kid out of the Lone Star State
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: who was at UTSA, Devin McCune.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: That's their wide receiver, too, right now. He's a bigger-bodied guy.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Someone who actually played against Texas at DKR two years
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: ago had five receptions for 30-something yards. Again, that was
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: a UTSA team, certainly Ohio State. But the other name
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: you need to know, you may remember the late Chris Henry,
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals. who tragically passed away.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: His son, Chris Henry Jr., reclassified, is a five-star recruit.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: He is probably going to be that third guy. He's
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: kind of, you know, for Ohio State, he's their version
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: of Jermaine Bishop. Had a really rough debut against Ball State.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Dropped a couple passes, one went for interception. But you
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: know that he's going to be ready to bounce back.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Those are guys who I think if... It's going to
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: be hard to contain Jeremiah Smith for a third straight time.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: But if Texas is able to do so, it means
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: one of those other two guys probably is going to
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: get their targets.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: Let me introduce you to K. Phillips and Littleton.
• 53:51
  Speaker 11: The second and third guys, they're going to be busy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: You hear me?
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: Will Muschamp is going to have these defensive backs ready
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: for those guys. And I know I'm sitting here drinking
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: a Kool-Aid, but I'm just saying. These wide receivers have
• 54:09
  Speaker 11: got to prove it, and they haven't.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Emeka Ibuka is not here. He not playing.
• 54:15
  Speaker 11: Jackson Smith and Jigma, he already played this week. So
• 54:20
  Speaker 11: those guys are going to have to go out there
• 54:22
  Speaker 11: and prove it to me. And I don't even think
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: that that's going to be the biggest problem. I think
• 54:28
  Speaker 11: that Bo Jackson is the guy that needs to really
• 54:33
  Speaker 11: be watched because he's already proved it. You know, he's
• 54:39
  Speaker 11: had like three 25-yard plays, and that's three too many
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: I don't want to see another one.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but when we're looking at these wide receivers and
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: what they can bring, they got to be able to
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: have other guys that are going to be there. And
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Chris Henry Jr. because of
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the fact that he is someone that the upside is there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: You talked about a five-star wide receiver. He is somebody
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: that Pac-Man Jones is his leader and his guardian. So
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: he is somebody that has been taking care of him
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: so he's gonna he's probably already been in his head
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: working with him talking about you gotta let that go
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: first game jitters whatever it may be so he has
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: something to prove but then you look on the texas
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: side of the football and you look at some of
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: those guys like a emmett mosley a guy that i
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: still believe we haven't seen the best of him yet
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: just because of some of the other things that they
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: try to do i think he's he's he's poised for
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: a breakout game You mentioned Jermaine Bishop Jr. I know
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: they tried to get him acclimated real quick. Arch thought
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: he was Nolan Ryan on that first pass to him
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: and just almost busted his chest wide open. And everybody's like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: oh man, he dropped that ball. No, he couldn't catch that.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: He was standing right next to him. It was like
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: standing in front of a jug machine. I'm like, my goodness.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: But he too is somebody that I think We haven't
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: seen what his capabilities are, but we also haven't seen
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: what Coach Shark is thinking about using him in some
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: of those positions as well. You look at some of
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: the other players in that wide receiver room. This is
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: an opportunity for guys to make a name for themselves.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: They're all five stars. I mean, they're very talented, but
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: this could be a big game for another guy, obviously
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: not named Wingo or Cam Coleman.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Well, you talked about Emmitt Mosley, right? It's easy to
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: forget that Emmitt Mosley's played a lot of football. He
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: was a guy who instantly started at Stanford, got banged
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: up a little bit coming out of high school, but
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: as soon as he was healthy, was a starter. Unfortunately,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: injuries have kind of been the story of his career.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: He got banged up coming to Texas. As soon as
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: he was healthy, he was a starter. Emmitt Mosley, that's
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: a guy who, listen, as high as I am on
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Chris Henry Jr. and Devin McCoon, again, I think those
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: are two talented guys. If you're just talking about position
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: for position, matchup team by team, I would take the
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: combination of Cam Coleman, Ryan Wingo, Emmitt Mosley. We could
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: take Jermaine Bishop Jr. out of the equation for a second.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: I would take those three over Ohio State's three. It's
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: not saying that the Buckeyes' three aren't talented, Mark, but
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: they haven't proved it like Texas' guys.
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: Have over their career.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're leaving out Dede McCutcheon.
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: That dude is talented, man, and I hope that he
• 57:17
  Speaker 11: gets to shine some. He needs a couple of scheme passes,
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: his direction like he did last year.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: And he made plays in big games.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's got to show it. But I think,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: once again, Coach Stark always talks about the trust factor
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: and making sure that those guys that are in the
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: game at those moments, not saying he doesn't trust him,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: but I'm just saying at these particular moments, this game
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: right here, I don't think they're going to play 70 people.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to play 80 or 90 people.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: They're going to play the guys that he trusts that
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: are going to be able to go out there handle
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: the workload, understand assignment, and not afford to miss it. Look,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I got Texas winning this game, and we'll give those
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: predictions tomorrow, but I've been very open and honest about
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: what I think it is. But I believe that this
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: team is going to have to show us consistency.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: At that point.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Those guys have got to be mad of the narrative
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: that they can't get over that hump against Ohio State.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: They got to get mad about that Georgia thing. We
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: don't need to worry about Georgia because Georgia's not on
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: the schedule unless you're going to get to the end
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: of the season, and we're playing for an SEC championship.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: But the focus right now is Ohio State, and they
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: have to come out and show that they are ready
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: for the test. I need you guys to come out
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: and show that you're ready to win some tickets and
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: eat some barbecue here at Cobra Ford of Austin right
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: here off of 183. You see Rudy's, you'll see us.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: We're on the patio. Come and hang out with us.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things to give away. We got
• 58:52
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• 58:56
  Speaker 3: for the, what is it?
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Is he at the Moody?
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at the Moody Center. Come on out here and
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: hang out. We're going to be here until five. We'll
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: continue those conversations and so much more right here on
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: the round table at Covert Court of Austin. That's right,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: right here on 183. Come and hang out.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: We are here until 5 o'clock.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Make sure you get over here and get a chance
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: to enter to win a pair of tickets. Good tickets,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. I mean, that's all we do over here
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: at iHeart.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: We ain't giving no bad tickets.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: We have a good time, and we make sure that
• 59:37
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• 59:39
  Speaker 3: to win some Thomas Rhett tickets, get some swag. Oh,
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: and Rudy's. Rudy's right here in front of us. They've
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: got some food here for you. While supplies last and
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Mark already devoured one of them already. One down, 25
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: to go. That was just an appetizer for him. He's
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: going to get some more in there. But before we
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: get into hour number two, we want to take a
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: look around the SEC. And tonight there's one game. Missouri
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: taking on Kansas, the rivalry game. That game will be
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: on Fox tonight. And Missouri ranked number 22 in the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: land and a team that showed a lot in game
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: one just because they got a new quarterback in Austin Simmons,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: the guy that was supposed to be the quarterback until
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss took over that job and never relinquished it. Tomorrow,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: you've got games starting at 11 a.m. You have Oklahoma
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: at Michigan. This is a big, big telltale sign for Michigan.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: You talk about Bryce Underwood. He's at a crossroad. His
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: coach that brought him in, gone, got fired. A lot
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: of money out there. And now Kyle Whittingham, the former
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Utah coach, is now at the helm of But the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: story is more about Oklahoma, what they've been able to do,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: what they did in that first game. They went out
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: and dominated. And Eric and Mark, we talk about this
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: all the time. You got to go out and dominate
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: the teams you're supposed to dominate.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Don't look bad.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Look good. And that's exactly what Oklahoma did from the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: very beginning, Mark.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: They jumped on him with both feet, man.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: And I thought that mature look as good as I've
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: seen him look since he's been at OU. had the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: opportunity to see him up close and personal. And that guy,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 11: he's gained about 10 or 15 pounds, too. He looks
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: really strong. And now they're saying that he's healthy and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 11: the SEC has got a lot to.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: Look out for.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I'll say this about Oklahoma. And, you know, I took
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit of flack. SEC media days because I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: voted Oklahoma as a top five team quite frankly I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: thought they could finish fourth in the SEC maybe even
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: third really push Texas and Georgia in the Southeastern Conference
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: when you take a look at that team Mark.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: We all know you should have took a lot of heat.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Mark we all know you're partial to the big boys
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: right I think what they've done with that offensive line
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: a name that fans need to know I think Texas
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: fans might want to pay attention early before the Red
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: River shootout. Eddie Pierre-Louis, he is a left guard for Oklahoma.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: He was a kid who was recruited, a high four-star,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: low five-star kid out of Tampa who started the last
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: six games of last season.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: They're betting on him.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: First off, you don't bring a sophomore who's only started
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: X amount of games, SEC media days, unless you think
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: you're going.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: To get big things out of him, right?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: They're thinking if they can get him to his potential
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: on the offensive line, it can really spring that run game,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: which we know was an issue, And I also think defensively.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: I think some players and teams have been a little low.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: On OU defensively.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: I know they lost some guys, but they still return
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of talent. I think Oklahoma's a team you're
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: going to really need to keep your eye on heading
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: into October 10th.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: Not to mention their coach, that's where he hangs his
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: hat on defense. And he's had a lot of success
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 11: with that scheme. And I feel like that's going to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 11: play an intricate part and Oklahoma's success.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Another game that we need to pay attention to is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Texas A & M they will be taking on and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: hosting Arizona State Arizona State they've been Kenny Dillingham has
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: been playing that woe is me and I don't know
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: what we're gonna do they're really good on film but
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: let's not get it twisted he's a doggone good coach
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna come in there ready to fight Marcel
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Reed talking more about the University of Texas than he
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: is than his opponents that he's playing that week. And
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I always say I know that they ask the question,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: so he's got to answer it. But he's talking way
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: too much about Texas Longhorns and the expectations at the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: end of the season. You look at Alabama and Kentucky.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: I think this is a sneaky good matchup as well.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: You look at Keelan Russell, his first time going on
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: the road, being a starting quarterback, going into Kentucky. where
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Will Stein told everybody, pack your flask, get it into
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: the stadium. We want to make it as uncool as
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: it could be for them to come in there. Well,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: let me just say this real quick.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to bash Will Stein, but Will Stein's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: a guy who, you know, he's new to the SEC.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to bash a fan base, but I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: don't think I'm going to tell them, hey, go get
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: liquored up.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Go scream obscenities because, you.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: Know, that can— And throw stuff at people.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: That might not sound exactly the.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Way you wanted it to sound in the Southeastern Conference.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: I'll just put it to you like that. Well, their
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: defense is solid.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 11: They've had their struggles on offense getting people to commit
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: to coming to Kentucky, man. But I tell you what,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: Lexington is a beautiful place. I spent a lot of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: time there in Louisville in my Ohio Valley days. And
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 11: I got to see a couple of those games and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 11: they play passionate football.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: So C.J. C.J. Baxter had a couple of scores the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: other day. I had a couple of scores and Minchie
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: is a really good quarterback and he's going to develop
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: and play well as he goes along. You look at
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State traveling to Minnesota, Vanderbilt in Delaware, Florida playing
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Campbell's soup is good food. Townsend at South Carolina. Tennessee
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: at Georgia Tech is a really good matchup as well.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: So that is something to pay attention to. Louisiana Tech
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: is going to.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Louisiana Tech, I guess they bought a new car. Louisiana
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Tech at LSU. So that's going to be interesting. And
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Arkansas at Utah. That's a game late night that you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: might want to pay attention to. I think Arkansas thinks
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they have a solid team, but I'm interested to see
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: what Utah will bring to the table. Some news on
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: the 40 acres that sounds very, very promising. We're not
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: saying it's that great, but we will say that it
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: is promising, and we'll talk about it at the top
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: of the hour. But what game excites y'all the most
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: besides the obvious?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 11: Oh, man, that's a tough one. I mean, just since
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: you mentioned it, like, I want to see Missouri. I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: want to see what they're talking about because a lot
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: of the preseason prognosticators said that they're going to be
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 11: so much better this year than 22 shows. So I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 11: want to see what that means. What does it mean?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 11: You think they can beat some teams in the top 15?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: I don't know. I have to see that with my
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: own eyes. I know Austin Simmons is a really good quarterback.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 11: Lane Kiffin had him as his starting quarterback before. uh,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 11: Trinidad Chambers took over and took, took the reins from them.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 11: So I'm interested to see that one, but I'm also
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: really focused on that Michigan and, um, Oklahoma game because
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: of what it means for Bryce Underwood, but also gives
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: us an opportunity to see what Oklahoma has.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, if I was going to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: pick a game, it would be Michigan and Oklahoma. I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: know for me taking a look for both teams, right?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: This is kind of a, a, I don't want to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: say a crossroads for, for, for Michigan, but if they
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: lose this game, Ooh, everything, all of the conversation about
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: how they got, for all intents and purposes, I don't
• 1:07:15
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  Speaker 3: a little while ago before we went to break. So, E,
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  Speaker 3: tell us the latest on a special type of player
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  Speaker 3: that Texas may or may not get tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually got to credit my publication, or not mine,
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  Speaker 4: Matt Zenitz does a great job covering national reports, says
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  Speaker 4: that Texas running back Derek Cooper is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a game-time decision. Take a look at Matt's tweet here,
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  Speaker 4: and he said it was a game-time decision against Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State per sources. That is interesting news because when we
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  Speaker 4: boot for a while.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that when Steve... Foreseeable future. Foreseeable future.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for getting the exact verbiage. Thank you. When
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: we get that kind of... Forget the foreseeable future for
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• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: it might have seemed. You know, we think that this, that,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: and the other. Don't read this too much. Read too
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: much into it. In this case, we got kind of
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: a language that said, hey, all right, Derek Cooper comes
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: out in that boot. Remember, after a second carry, right?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: He heads back to the locker room in a boot. I...
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how, Mark, Harjot, you guys feel. It's
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  Speaker 4: not that you wouldn't want Derek Cooper out there on
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  Speaker 4: of game you rush him back for when you have
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  Speaker 4: Michael Terry, right? You have other guys who are equipped
• 1:15:40
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• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: guys were brought here for a reason. That's just my
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: take on whether you bring him back, but it sounds and,
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  Speaker 3: It sounds as if it's a game time decision for
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm very high on Terry in the short yardage situation.
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  Speaker 11: But James Simon, he runs with power. He runs with
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  Speaker 11: an aggressiveness that reminds me a lot of how McCaffrey runs.
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  Speaker 3: So that's going to be interesting to see how Texas
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  Speaker 3: decides to roll and roll with Derek Cooper because he
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  Speaker 3: is somebody that's got a lot of upside. You have
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  Speaker 3: some depth at that running back position. So just like
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  Speaker 3: to rush that. And I believe Steve feels the same way.
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  Speaker 3: But I can't speak for him. I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe they have some special packages that they were
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: looking at. For him to go from being one of
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: those guys that may be out for the foreseeable future,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: and now we have him as a game-time decision, that
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: definitely shows his healing power to be back in there.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: Well, we'll see in warm-up what he looks like.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: If he takes part in warm-ups, but yes. If he
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: does take part in warm-ups, yes. I mean, I think, Harge,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: that's a natural segue in kind of talking about a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: run game situation. And I think it's going to be
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: really important for Texas tomorrow. And it's something I talk
• 1:17:08
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• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: 10 runs stuffed against Texas State. I know Mark and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: I were kind of talking yesterday saying, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the game plan was a little vanilla, right? Maybe
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: there's going to be a different style of run that
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Texas didn't show that they will show against Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: My point is this.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be crucial. Remember, Texas went
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: 11 of 15 on third downs. Their average distance to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: go on third downs was 6.7 yards. That's not necessarily ideal,
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  Speaker 4: especially going up against Ohio State. Mark, I think Texas
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  Speaker 4: needs to be better in those situations because it's not
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  Speaker 4: going to be easy to replicate going 11 of 15
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• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: against an Ohio State compared to Texas State.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think the main reason, yeah, put this in
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 11: perspective too. Texas played 60 or 70 players, and some
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: of those guys are just finding their footing. They weren't
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  Speaker 11: the guys that could stop the run as well as
• 1:18:06
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• 1:18:21
  Speaker 11: they made it an emphasis to stop them from running
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 11: the game, the ball, they could have done it.
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  Speaker 6: They just didn't. They played vanilla football.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Well, I think what Eric's is talking about when Texas
• 1:18:30
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  Speaker 3: They got stuff themselves. They did. They couldn't move the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: guy that's in front of them. That's why it's going
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: to be a different look for what they're going to
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: see when they go up against Ohio State. Yes, the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: matchups on the offensive line were a little bit different.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: The players were a little bit different. They hadn't had
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of practice together because they've had to deal
• 1:18:52
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• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Texas recruit should have been able to move the guys
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: from Texas State. You covered the G5s and the G4s,
• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: talking about, well, now Texas looks like a team, like
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: the SEC should look. But the fact remains, they didn't
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: get the push that they were supposed to get and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: where they were expected to run the football.
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  Speaker 6: You take away that pop play at the.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Very beginning of the game, it wasn't a good performance
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• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: have been able to dominate Texas.
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  Speaker 6: State up front.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: And, Harge, again, I'm not trying to make a mound
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: out of a molehill.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: But, again, to your point, you take away the 45-yard
• 1:19:30
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• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: two chunk plays, right, 22 yards and 13 yards.
• 1:19:36
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  Speaker 3: I do like the bulk plays and them being able
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: to have that. And again, that's.
• 1:19:44
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• 1:19:45
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• 1:19:47
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• 1:19:50
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• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: big plays, but they're only getting this. But there is
• 1:19:53
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• 1:19:55
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• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: by saying Texas needs to make a statement when they
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: have that short-yarded situation, right?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: When they're in the red zones. I'm a big believer.
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• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: way you do it sometimes is the way you do
• 1:20:12
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• 1:20:14
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• 1:20:17
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• 1:20:20
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• 1:20:22
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• 1:20:24
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• 1:20:26
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  Speaker 11: Guys, we also had a situation where You have a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 11: quarterback that can actually really do it. He can pick
• 1:20:36
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• 1:20:37
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• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: And he didn't.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 11: Tomorrow's going to be a new day. I expect Archman
• 1:20:47
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• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Rushing.
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• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, and to your point, yes, we all
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: understood that he wasn't going to be running. There were
• 1:20:58
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• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:04
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• 1:21:06
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• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for the game because of the matchups. We've
• 1:21:25
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• 1:21:28
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• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: had made a couple segments earlier and what you were
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: saying about Ohio State's offensive line, right? Ball State last
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: week ran for 45 yards. That's the kind of performance
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: you would hope Texas put forth there, right? But on
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: the flip side, how they were able to kind of
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: counteract that is Entering the year, Ohio State's offensive line
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: was a question mark, right? With some of the guys
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: they had, they're trying to figure out, hey, do we
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: have the horses up front, those big boys that Mark loves,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: to really protect Julian Sane and to spring their own
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: run game? It's still a question mark. When we spoke
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: with Pat Murphy on our Horns 24-7 podcast, Pat said,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie. We didn't learn because it
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: was all vanilla against Boise State, against Ball State, right?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: So it's going to be kind of a situation where
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Ohio State's learning about themselves, Texas learning about themselves as well.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 11: Well, I expect a lot more aggression. And I see
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 11: stunts happening on defense. I see the run game being
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 11: not just straight ahead blocking.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: I see some traps. I see some counter trades.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 11: And last year we saw them run a counter trade
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 11: that was designed for Arch. And Arch ran about seven
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 11: yards and slid. He could have easily kept trying. So
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: I won't see some of those creative plays that Sark
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 11: has drawn up.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I think those are the hidden yards that we
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: didn't see last week. And I think we all can
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: agree that Arch is going to be.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: I just don't want you to panic.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: No, ain't nobody panicking. What we're talking about is Arch
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: is going to be able to beat Arch. And that's
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: what Coach Sark believes in. Arch is a powerful runner.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: He's going to be able to move around and do
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: the things because... Those hidden runs that he could have
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: had last week, that would have added to the rushing total.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: That would have been a better way to look at
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: the yards per rush average and things like that. But again,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: we don't want to major in Arch Manning running the football.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Coach Sarkis said it multiple times. I don't major in
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: my quarterback running the football.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: Listen, Steve Sarkisian said he's never going to be a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: major in quarterback run, never going to have a PhD
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: in the quarterback run game.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: But.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: We talked about, we opened the segment talking about Derek Cooper,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: his availability. Could he have a role as the short
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: yardage back? Michael Terry, James Simon. Well, you know who
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: Texas' most effective short yardage and goal line back has been?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Archman.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: It's been number 16, Archman, the 6'5, 225-pound quarterback, right?
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: And that is a situation, going back to what we
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: talked about earlier, right, where you have to play... 11
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: on 11 in the red zone. You can't just take
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: the quarterback out of it because arch is a guy
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: who's very capable with his legs. I think that's an
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: area where if you want to, you know, I hate
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: to use this word, but unleash arch Manning, right? It
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: would be there in the red zone, in the goal
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: line situations where it say, Hey, big boy, Go get
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: us in, right? If for whatever reason, say, you know,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: because you guys both talk about confidence. You need to
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: establish that confidence early. Don't get an early stop. Show
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: that you can do it. I think number 16 is
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: the way to do that.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 11: When you go into an RPO and a zone read,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: that Texas running backs can get the outside because they're
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 11: going to have Arch being a threat on the inside.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: So I love the fact.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 11: That that RPO system is going to be a... beneficial
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 11: to what texas is going to do anymore.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's going to be a big time challenge for
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: both of these teams we expect both quarterbacks to use
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: their legs in this ball game And, of course, you
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: want to make sure that you can run the ball
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: to set up that pass because there's a lot.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: Coach Shark might do it backwards.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: He may throw the ball to set up the run
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: because that's how he rolls. When we come back, we're
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: going to take a look behind enemy lines. We're going
• 1:25:33
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• 1:25:36
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for this Texas football team, not only because of
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: the magnitude of this game being at DKR, being at home,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: but you get a chance to probably try to exploit
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: some players over at Ohio State. Now, listen. We talk
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: about the recruiting that Texas does. Ohio State is A1
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: as well. So they're not getting pushovers. They got a
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: bunch of transfers that came in as well to fill
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: some of those voids from all of those top draft picks.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: But this is a big opportunity for the Texas Longhorns
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: against a formidable defense led by Matt Patricia.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, listen, whenever you, and this is one of
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: the things that Steve Sarkeesian noted in his Monday press conference,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: I think he did Thursday as well.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: Ohio State having two former NFL coordinators.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: I've never been a guy that's been like, man, those
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: pro coordinators come down, it's great. But I do think
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: at this level, when you're running pro-style schemes, it really
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: does make a difference.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: If you're running collegiate.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: Schemes, for lack of a better example, like the Art
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: Browse offense, having a pro-style coordinator is not going to
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: help you. But when you're running these pro-style schemes, it helps.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: And you talked about Matt Patricia on defense. I think
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: one of the names to keep an eye on, or
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: I'll give you two up front in my opinion.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: One, Edrick Houston.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: He was a guy who was expected to be the
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: breakout star of this defense, a guy who's kind of
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: a hybrid edge, hybrid tackle, very athletic, strong enough and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: athletic enough to do both jobs inside and outside.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: You can't, again, can't really tell.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: What you got from him.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: Which side does he play on?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: Defensive line, defensive line.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's a right defensive end tackle?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, so he'll kind of rotate between left, right, and
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: defensive tackle, depending on whatever scheme that map is playing.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: They don't really lock down one side.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: They sometimes flip side to side, depending on uh what
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: side they're on the hash mark but uh to that
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: point right edric houston is a guy also a name
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: i think texas fans need to know is john walker
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: the big defensive tackle a ucf transfer someone who was
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: kind of an interesting story guys because ohio state recruited
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: him steve sarkisian talked about larry johnson the you know
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: really long time defensive line coach in college football and
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: They recruited him out of high school, and he said
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: no to Ohio State to stay home at UCF.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: They were kind of stunned.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: They were like, no one says no to Ohio State,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: especially in the NIL era, right? This time around, they
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: go get him out of the transfer portal. He's going
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: to be their big run stuffer. Him and Houston are
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: the two guys you've got to account for if Texas
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: is going to have success running the football and to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: keep pressure out of Arch Manning's face.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 11: Was there a specific reason that he decided.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: To stay home?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Well, if you ask UCF folks, it was out of loyalty.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: It was out of, you know, a guy who was
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: kind of too young to leave home, wanted to be
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: around his family. But there are some other folks who
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: would say, well, you know, they put together a nice
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: lucrative package for him. And that, you know, there was
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: kind of a, I guess, for lack of a better phrase.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: A kinfolk deal.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Well, the kinfolk deal, but also an assumption that we're
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. We're not going to lose this kid to UCF, right?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: And then he decided not to leave home. So that
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: was one of the things kind of with John Walker.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Another thing that I wanted to talk about on that
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: defensive side is obviously, as you mentioned, trying to get
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: pressure on Arch Manning. But if Arch Manning has time,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: that secondary is going to be challenged as well as
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: the linebackers. Are there some guys back there? Because last
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: year you had Sonny Stiles, you had Caleb Downs. You
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: had guys that were cerebral in the defensive side of
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: the football. But looking at that team and where they
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: are right now, some of the guys that they transferred in,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: Is there any names that people should look for or
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: numbers that they should?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, safety Jalen McLean is the guy who really took
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: over the Caleb Downs role, right? And again, it's almost
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: unfair to a player to say the Caleb Downs role, right?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: Like who just walks in and goes the Caleb Downs role.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: But Jalen McLean is the guy safety. I think not
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: just because of his coverage skills, Mark and Harge, but
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: because they may try to use him as an additional
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: guy in the box, right? Not only to play and
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: run support, excuse me, but also If Matt Patricia does blitz,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: and Matt Patricia's a guy who's not known for being
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: as aggressive as Will Muschamp, right? He's more of a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: scheme guy to kind of force guys with his front
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: four to create pressure. But they have been known, Matt
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: Patricia's been known to use downs to blitz, right? Jalen
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: McClain is the guy you want to look at in
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: that secondary.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: That's interesting.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting, especially to your point of what you said,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: where it's unfair to put him in the Caleb Downs, area,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: but now you are having to play that position. Hey, man,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: we bring you in here to fill these shoes. You
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: got to do what Downs did. And then that's when
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: you just say, listen, I don't.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: Have a cape on.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: Because Caleb Downs did everything for that football team, which
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: is why he was the first round pick for the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys and is expected to be a big part
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: of the success that the Cowboys have. You know, we
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: talked a little bit about this for Texas football. We
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: talked about their special teams and the plays that could happen.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: The same thing could happen for them. They have some
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: special type of players, and you brought up something to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: me about Bay. He is one heck of a football player,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: and he may think a little bit that he's still
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: in high school with some of the thoughts that he had.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: Legend Bay, he got in trouble last weekend in the
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: special teams department. Legend Bay did.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: You know, if you talk about a kid who's really,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: like Harge mentioned, very special player. Talent, and as you said,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: still think he's in high school. In high school, if
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: that up man, Mark, says, pause, we're not coming out.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: Pause.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: Well, in high school, you might come out, right? But
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: in college, it means pause.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: It does not mean come out.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: And Legend Bay twice waved off his guy like hard,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: you know, you played baseball, waved off the third base.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Coach, and I'm coming home. I'm scoring, I'm scoring.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: And Legend Bay decided to take the ball out. Not
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: Matt Patricia, Ryan Day ripped into him and said, hey,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: when we practice this, if we say this, put your
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: hands up don't come out but legend bay is a
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: guy who part of the reason he feels so confident
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: he's kind of their version of jermaine bishop right a
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: guy who did nothing but score touchdowns really electric if
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: you may you know for those i'll give a quick
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: synopsis may it may not know a legend bay story
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: was a kid who wanted to go to ohio state
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: out of high school mark but when you're under 18
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: you need that parental guardian to sign off on your
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: papers to sign with your school right His mother said,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: I will not sign your papers to go to Ohio State.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: I want you to go to Tennessee.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: I want you to be closer to home. So Legend
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Bay said, okay, fine.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go to Tennessee, wait until his 18th birthday,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: and then told Josh Heupel, coach, I don't want to
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: be here.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: I want to be at Ohio State.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: Josh Heupel, I think, did the right thing by the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: player and said, okay, if you don't want to be here,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: we'll let you out.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: He ended up.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Transferring before he even went to class at Tennessee, transferred
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: to Ohio State, and that's how he ended up there
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: That's an amazing story. And, you know, sometimes you forget
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: about it. I wonder how often that happens. It happens more.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: It happens a lot more than you think because you
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: can go back to the days of National Signing Day
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: when HaHa Clinton did some.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: You remember that?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like, nah, man, I'm not signing off
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: on this. You know, it's just one of those things
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: that you have to make a decision on your own
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: at some point. And if Ohio State You can't go
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: wrong with any of those schools. But you look at
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: Ohio State and that was the school that you wanted
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: to go to from.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: The very beginning.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: And you've got to be able to have that. So, yeah,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: there's going to be some moments in this game that
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: we're going to go back and look at and be like, oh,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: that was a deciding factor. Oh, that was a momentum swing.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: And a guy running the ball out of the back
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: of the end zone when he's being told not to,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: field position and everything else that goes along with that
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: could play a huge part in it. And super quick, Harge, right?
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: Just not to, you know, kind of bash Legend Bay,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: but the reason it's so important, you might get away
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: with it against Ball State.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: You don't want the kid to.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Think, okay, I got away with it against Ball State,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: so I can do it against Texas.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: No, that's how you get a turnover. It's funny, Harge,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: you may remember this.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: I didn't grow up a Texas fan, so I saw
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: the play on Twitter for the first time.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Was it Ramones Taylor? Yeah. Against Ohio State, right? Yes.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: He took the step. He was right there on the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: goal line, and then he was like, should I go?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Should I stop? Should I? Oh, I got to go.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: The coverage is coming. That's what you're trying to prevent
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: in that type of big-time game. You don't want that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: to happen. Every moment matters in this ballgame.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: You know, we talk about not making it bigger than
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: the last game or what the play is and the
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: moments that are here, but it does matter. Every play matters.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: Everything is sequential here. in this game, and it does
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: have consequences when you look at it. They have to
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: put that pressure on them.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: Texas, in this equation, is a veteran team.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: You know, they have more guys that have started because
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: of all of the mass departures that happened at Ohio
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: State last year.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that also is going to be a factor.
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  Speaker 11: The fact that you have guys that have already played
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  Speaker 11: in this system, they understand it, they're the leaders, and
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  Speaker 11: they can influence the game, not... just from being on
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  Speaker 11: the field but from the sideline as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it's a it's an interesting dynamic for both of
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: these teams where they are and how they're going about
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  Speaker 3: their business i do want to bring this up because
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  Speaker 3: i think it's important because you've heard this from a
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  Speaker 3: lot of players on this team it's the togetherness on
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  Speaker 3: the university of texas team you've heard raheem biles and
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: his story is unbelievable where he is now and what
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: he was able to do even this week with his foundation.
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  Speaker 3: So that's something that we'll touch on tomorrow. But you
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  Speaker 3: look at this team, they came in together and they
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  Speaker 3: learned defensively, they learned together. And the mistakes that were
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: being made, they all had to correct them. Raheem talking
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  Speaker 3: about Coach Muschamp getting on him. There's a reason why
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  Speaker 3: he got on you and now you can't make that
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  Speaker 3: same mistake again. And when you're learning together and not
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  Speaker 3: having to be taught by somebody, you're learning from the
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  Speaker 3: actual teacher That's a powerful thing. When we all struggle together,
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  Speaker 3: we find a way to fight through it together. And
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  Speaker 3: that's that, what do they call it? That culture Wednesday
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  Speaker 3: type of day. Those are the types of things you
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  Speaker 3: think about.
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  Speaker 4: No, Harge, I mean, you can't emphasize that enough, right?
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  Speaker 4: It's not like, hey, we got a transfer coming in.
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  Speaker 4: One or two guys have to learn the new defense
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  Speaker 4: and those guys inevitably gravitate to the guys they came
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  Speaker 4: in with, right? They become friends. No, this was We
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  Speaker 4: all are learning the defense together, right? I hate to
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: bring up, you know, kind of old situation, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to use it to make the point in terms
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  Speaker 4: of learning the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Ty Anthony Smith was injured, right? Entering spring.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't get a chance to learn the defense. What
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  Speaker 4: that paved the way for was a Justin Cryer to
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  Speaker 4: learn the defense alongside Raheem Biles. Those guys build chemistry.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden it results in a tandem. I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: do think to your point, right? That's kind of that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, those bonds are forged by the fire, those
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: dog days in spring and fall.
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  Speaker 3: And Mark, I think this is the time, right?
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  Speaker 4: You go through all of that stuff during fall, during spring,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: during summer, during summer workouts, during fall. These are the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: types of games that you want to show out and say,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: this is what it was for.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, you learn to depend on that guy. And
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: that guy can communicate to you almost telepathically or with signals.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 11: And you have this kinship. Now you go, I got this.
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  Speaker 11: And you move Like, man, I.
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  Speaker 3: Understand.
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  Speaker 11: And Harjit, you too, you played pro ball for, what,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 11: 20 years?
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  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, like 30 years, something like that? Yeah, 30.
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  Speaker 11: But guys, like, you learn to be able to kind
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  Speaker 11: of telepathically exist with somebody when you play with them enough.
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  Speaker 11: And Texas has more guys in that spot. since the
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 11: spring than they did last year. Like, those guys are gone.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 11: They made it to the pros. God bless them. But
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: these guys all came in together through the spring, through
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 11: the summer workouts, and they worked together on the same goal.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 11: They didn't know another system. So I'm excited to see
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 11: what it looks like. Have y'all learned how to telepathically
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: do radio?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just curious. All the time. I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 6: We finish each other's sentences.
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  Speaker 3: We did a show side by side. Yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: For those of y'all who are listening, Hargis is giving
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: me a look like, you know, why'd you go there?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious as y'all do.
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  Speaker 11: I wanted to trade seats with you just so I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 11: could be.
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  Speaker 3: Closer to them. Well, I'm glad that you got here
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: when you did because that seat was already warmed up
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: for you. And yes, we did sit by each other
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: on the radio yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: And let me just tell you, my life has.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Never been the same. When we come back, we're going
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: to continue the conversations. We're going to get all the
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: way into this game. What's going to be some of
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: the factors? And is this the year that SART handles
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: Ohio State? He's got the toys to do it. But
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: we are here at Covert Ford of Austin having a
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: roundtable right here off of Research 183, just south of Rudy's.
• 1:39:52
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• 1:39:54
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• 1:39:56
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• 1:39:59
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