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- 0:41The f A Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. We are going to
- 1:03just jump right back in. We're still in a section of radio replies where
- 1:10an Anglican is really grilling the priest Rumbling Cardi. You may remember one of
- 1:15these two Catholic priests is a convert or was a convert to Catholicism from Anglicanism.
- 1:22So he's very conversi into the subject and it's a very interesting conversation.
- 1:26After that, we're going to get into Father of Spirago's work on the Catechism,
- 1:33and this is one of the most important topics. Really. The Catholic
- 1:37Church is indestructible and infallible. Only one Christian church in the entire world can
- 1:45claim to be indestructible and infallible, and just you know, this is really
- 1:51important. So let's go ahead and start with the Anglican here, who says,
- 1:56would you say that the Archbishop of Canterbury is preaching an anti Christian doctrine?
- 2:02And they reply, he preaches the Doctor of the Church of England as
- 2:07he understands it, and being in good faith, no fault probably attaches to
- 2:10him. But the real question is are the doctrines of the Church of England
- 2:15anti Christian. The reply is not in every single matter. Various groups within
- 2:21the Anglican Church have kept some parts of Christ's teachings intact, but in many
- 2:25things all Anglicans reject certain doctrines without warrant. The present Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury
- 2:32is of course a heretic and a schismatic. Objectively, Catholic bishops throughout the
- 2:38world will enter into no official relations whatever with those Anglican bishops who have appeared
- 2:44on the scene since the sixteenth century. The person says, are not Anglo
- 2:49Catholics passing slowly into Catholic ways. And that's one thing you should know about
- 2:53Anglicanism. There are some Anglicans who call themselves Anglo Catholics. I mean they
- 3:01belong to the Anglican Church but are more Catholic in their beliefs. Oftentimes it's
- 3:08actually used as sort of a slur in Anglicanism, especially since the church went
- 3:14very liberal in the sixties and seventies and eighties and on through. I mean,
- 3:19first they said they had to ordain women. I mean that broke off
- 3:23any chance of the Anglican Church reconciling with the Catholic Church. Now they have
- 3:30gay priests and bishops a performed gay marriages. They've gone very very socially liberal,
- 3:38but also very supportive of communism, Marxism, very supportive of abortion.
- 3:46So usually when when an Anglican calls someone an Anglo Catholic, they're actually using
- 3:53it as a put down. They're saying that person is old fashioned and too
- 3:58conservative. Presumably in the nineteen forties when this book was written, it had
- 4:03the opposite meaning. It meant someone who was more true to church teachings.
- 4:09Interesting, huh, well, they answer, why should they have to do
- 4:13so? If the Anglican Church is right and has ever been right, has
- 4:15always been right. But even so, Anglo Catholics are not passing to Catholic
- 4:21ways. The Catholic way is obedience to the god given authority of the Catholic
- 4:26Church, and Anglo Catholics are as far off from that as ever. Person
- 4:32says, they are practically the same in their services, and they answer,
- 4:35this is really important. This is a big misunderstanding among Anglicans in regard to
- 4:45Catholicism. The precinctor. They imitate many of our external practices, but even
- 4:51this attempt is in defiance of their own bishops, nor does their imitation of
- 4:58Catholic worship make them Catholic. That's the important part. If some stranger were
- 5:03to were my double in appearance, that would not make him my blood brother.
- 5:09The only way to be Catholic is to be one. We went from
- 5:13God by disobedience, and the only way back is by obedience. Obedience is
- 5:17the very essence of religion, and is obedience to the Catholic Church in belief
- 5:23and practice, which makes a man a Catholic. All right, It seems
- 5:30like a good place to leave it today as we get into our next subject,
- 5:33which is the indestructibility and infallibility of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church,
- 5:43the one Church founded by Jesus Christ himself, the one Church originally governed
- 5:47by the Apostles, the Holy Apostles, and the only church that has existed
- 5:54intact, unchanged, visible as a shining city set upon a for all ages,
- 6:00for the last two thousand years and will until the end of time.
- 6:05The Catholic Church is infallible and indestructible. Will start with the indestructibility of the
- 6:11Church. The Catholic Church is indestructible, ie will remain till the end of
- 6:15the world. For Christ said the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it
- 6:19in Matthew sixteen eighteen. Hence there will always be popes, bishops and faithful
- 6:26and God's revealed truth will ever be found in the Catholic Church. The archangel
- 6:30Gabriel announced to Mary of his kingdom there shall be no end Luke one thirty
- 6:34three. The kingdom of God on earth is the Catholic Church. It's the
- 6:40church he established as the church to which he appointed officers. The church,
- 6:46says Saint Ambrose, is like the moon. It may wane, but it
- 6:48shall never be destroyed. It may be darkened, but it can never disappear.
- 6:54The bark of the church, says Saint Anselm, may be swept by
- 6:57the waves, but it can never sink, because Christ is there. Of
- 7:00all the persecutors of the Church, none has succeeded against it, and some
- 7:04have come to a fearful end. This is really interesting, Actually, this
- 7:09is something I don't think many Protestants really think about. Beginning with judas those
- 7:16who persecute the body of Christ don't end up very good. Well, let's
- 7:25say, well, okay, yeah, we'll begin with Judas. This is
- 7:29where Father Spiago begins. Judas's end is the type of his imitators. Judas
- 7:33is believed to have committed suicide. There are actually kind of two accounts in
- 7:40the Bible of his death. One that he fell from what they hanged himself
- 7:43the owes they fell and his guts burst open. Probably both were true.
- 7:48Maybe he hanged himself and the rope broke after he died, and when he
- 7:53fell he split open. I have no idea, but anyway, he did
- 7:58kill himself and had no hope of redemption. Someone made a really good point
- 8:03this morning. I think it was Philip Hayden with Missy O'Day. He said,
- 8:09if Judas had gone to Jesus on the cross as he was being crucified
- 8:16and repented ask forgiveness, Jesus would have forgiven him from the cross and he
- 8:22would be in heaven today. Imagine that. But before Judas, Herod the
- 8:30Murder of the Infants in Bethlehem died of unspeakable tortures. So too the other
- 8:35Herod, the Murder of Saint James, was devoured by worms. The pilot
- 8:41was banished by the Emperor to Vienna in France, and there he took his
- 8:45own life. That's your ponscious pilot also killed himself. During the seas of
- 8:50Jerusalem, one million Jews died of hunger and sickness or in battle. The
- 8:54city itself was reduced to ashes, and some hundred thousand Jews carried any activity
- 9:01traditionally that has been seen as a temporal of a physical punishment for crucifying the
- 9:09lord the tyrant Nero, who persecuted so many Christians Simmi martyrs and Nero was
- 9:16deposed and in his flight from Rome was stabbed by a slave. Diocletian came
- 9:22to a shameful end. Before his death. His family were sent into exile,
- 9:28his statues destroyed, his statutes destroyed, and his body attacked with a
- 9:33loathsome disease. Julian the Apostate was struck down in the field of battle by
- 9:37a lance, and his last words were Galilean, thou hast conquered. The
- 9:43case of Napoleon. This is really interesting our textbooks trying to make a hero
- 9:50of Napoleon. He was no hero. He says. The case of Napoleon
- 9:54is instructive. He kept Pious the seventh a prisoner for five years years.
- 10:01He himself was a prisoner for seven years. He imprisoned the pope. Okay,
- 10:05I mean he was not a good guy. He himself was a prisoner
- 10:09for five years. We seven years in the castle at Fontainbleu. He forced
- 10:16the Pope to give up the states of the Church, promising him a yearly
- 10:18income of two million francs. In the same place, he himself was forced
- 10:22to sign his abdication and received a promise of a yearly income of the same
- 10:26amount. Four days after giving the order to unite the states of the Church
- 10:31with France, he lost the battles of Aspern and was at Erlin. Gentle
- 10:35believe he answered the excommunication launched against him, saying that the words of an
- 10:41old man would not make the arms drops from the hands of his soldiers.
- 10:45This actually happened in his Russian campaign. From intense cold, they couldn't hold
- 10:50their guns anymore. And the same day on which Napoleon died at Saint Helena,
- 10:54Pious the seventh was celebrating his own feast day at Rome under the French
- 11:00have a saying, whoever eats of the Pope dies. It was really tragic.
- 11:05I mean, you know, like I said, not a good guy,
- 11:07but what his enemies did to his wife and child were actually pretty horrible
- 11:15anyway. The same fate is shared by founders of heresies and enemies of religion.
- 11:20Arius burst asunder in a triumphal procession. Arius was a heretic that said
- 11:28that, you know, Christ was not truly God and truly man. Voltaire
- 11:33died in despair. Yes, that's true. Many of the great heroes that
- 11:37you'll be taught in school today like Voltaire. Oh gosh, there's another one
- 11:43right on the tip of my tongue. Yeah. A lot of the atheist
- 11:48philosophers went insane, died of madness or suicide despair. Uh. These facts,
- 11:56and many more of the same kind, illustrate the words of the Holy
- 11:58Writ. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living
- 12:03God. When the Church is in greatest need, Christ ever comes to its
- 12:07help, either by miracles by raising up saintly men. The appearance of the
- 12:13Cross of the Heavens, for instance, seen by Constantine in his army,
- 12:16brought the Christian persecution to an end. The Church, says, Saint Jerome
- 12:20is like Peter's bark when the storm that means a ship essentially okay. When
- 12:26the storm is at its height, the Lord awakes from his sleep and commands
- 12:30peace. It is peculiar to the church, says Saint Hilary, to flourish
- 12:35when persecuted. Persecution, says Saint Augustine, served to bring forth saints to
- 12:41the church, as well as to eve were spoken in sorrow, shalt thou
- 12:46bring forth children Genesis three sixteen. The members of the church increase under persecution.
- 12:52The church is a field fruitful only when torn up by the plow,
- 12:54or it is a vine stronger and richer for being pruned. This fire is
- 13:00spread by the wind. So has the church increased by persecution, said Saint
- 13:03Rupert. Persecution purifies the church. Even if millions fall away. It is
- 13:09not a loss, but a cleansing. The time of persecution is usually a
- 13:13period of miracles attesting to the divine origins of the Church, as in the
- 13:18Babylonian captivity, they attested to the truth of the religion of the Jews.
- 13:22How often have Christians come unhurt out of boiling liquid like Saint Cecilia, or
- 13:28remain unharmed in the midst of flames like Saint Polycarp, or been thrown to
- 13:33beasts and received their homage like Saint Venantchien. The N A N T I
- 13:39U s venentious. I guess facts like these forcy enemies of the Church exclaim
- 13:46Mighty indeed is the God of the Christians. The Church comes triumphant out of
- 13:50every persecution. Easter always follows Good Friday. But a few years ago the
- 13:56bishops in Germany were cast into prison, the religious orders driven out, and
- 14:01the administration of the sacraments in part forbidden. At present day, the number
- 14:05of Catholic members at the Reichstags over one hundred. The Catholic journals have increased
- 14:09from four to five hundred. Yearly congress. Yearly congresses take place, and
- 14:15all kinds of unions for Catholics are formed, while Catholics themselves are stauncher and
- 14:20more self sacrificing. Yes, the eighteen nineties was a pretty dark, good
- 14:24time to be a Catholic in Germany. Then came the Communists, and then
- 14:31came the National Socialists and the atheists that took over. Well, that's a
- 14:37pretty good example, isn't it. In a time of persecution, the Catholic
- 14:41Church flourished a time of peace. Evil and wicked men took over Nazis,
- 14:48Hitler Catholic churches, and a great deal of persecution in Europe. Right now
- 14:54again, maybe we're nearing a more fruitful time. We can only hope.
- 14:58The more battles Church has to fight, the more her powers are developed,
- 15:03and the more she is oppressed, the higher she rises. In the words
- 15:05of Pope Pious the Seventh, such a privilege belongs to no institution save the
- 15:09Church, and by that she may be recognized as the offspring of God,
- 15:13the bride of Christ. Now, as for the infallibility of the Church,
- 15:18God has planted in our hearts a longing for truth which must be satisfied.
- 15:22Our first parents had no difficulties to face in the search for truth. In
- 15:26the state of innocence, says say Thomas, it was impossible for man to
- 15:30mistake faults for true ever since the fall to heirs human. However, God
- 15:37sent an infallible teacher, his only begotten son, that man might again find
- 15:41the truth. Hence the words of Christ a pilot for this. I came
- 15:46into the world that I should give testimony to the truth. That's John eighteen
- 15:52thirty seven. Christ was to be a light to our understanding, our understandings,
- 15:56darkened as they were by sin John three p. Nineteen. As Christ
- 16:00was not to remain always on earth, the appointed in another infallible teacher his
- 16:04church, and provided with necessary gifts, especially those especially with the assistants of
- 16:11the Holy Spirit. Christ conferred upon his apostles and their successors the chief teaching
- 16:15office and promised them his divine assistance. Thus he said his decision into heaven,
- 16:22going teaching all nations. Behold, I am with you all days,
- 16:27even until the consummation of the world, yess Matthew twenty eight, nineteen and
- 16:34twenty Yes, Jesus guaranteed promised to his apostles that he would be with them
- 16:41until the end of the world. They would have his authority. Well,
- 16:45they obviously did not live forever. Actually, most of them died martyrs.
- 16:48Most of them were killed for their faith in Christ. He gave them the
- 16:53power to bind and loose, to appoint successors. And Jesus will be with
- 16:59the successors of his apostles, the bishops and priests, and the Pope of
- 17:03the Catholic Church even until the end of the world. No other denomination,
- 17:11no other religion on earth, has that authority. And at the Last Supper.
- 17:18He said, I will ask the Father, and he will give you
- 17:19another paraclet, that he may abide with you forever the spirit of truth.
- 17:25To Saint Peter, he said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against
- 17:27the Church. Since Christ is the son of God, his words must be
- 17:32true. If the Church, in carrying out her teaching office, could lead
- 17:34man to error, Christ would not have kept his word he had. Saint
- 17:41Paul caused the Church the pillar and ground of the truth. Many prosidants will
- 17:45say, we believe in the Bible. Only you say what does the Bible
- 17:48say about that? They'll say, the scripture is good for all instruction.
- 17:52Yes, true is good for all instruction. But what is the actual Bible
- 17:56say? Is the pillar and ground of the truth or the pillar and found
- 18:00the truth? Which is my translation says that's from one Timothy three point fifteen,
- 18:06and it's the Church and the measures decide upon. The apostles and the
- 18:10Council of Jerusalem were introduced with the words for half it has seemed good to
- 18:15the Holy Ghost and to us. That's Acts fifteen twenty eight. That means
- 18:18the apostles had the full authority of God to speak it is no recent belief
- 18:26that the Church is infallible. Long ago Origin writes as in the heavens there
- 18:30are two great sources of light, the Sun and the moon, which borrows
- 18:34its light from the Sun. So there are two great sources of our interior
- 18:38light, Christ, the Church Christ, and the Church. Christ is the
- 18:42light of the world. He shares his light with the Church, and she
- 18:45enlightens all the earth. In the words of Saint Irenaeus, where the Church
- 18:51is, there is also the Spirit of God. Those are I think the
- 18:53first and second century, so I mean they were basically contemporary with the Apostles,
- 19:00like one generation after. I mean, people will say, well,
- 19:03that's a long time. No, No, here we are in America still,
- 19:06you know, reading the Constitution of the United States and talking about what
- 19:10our founders intended, and that says, you know, real and commonplace to
- 19:15us. As the teachings of the Apostles were in the first and second third
- 19:21centuries, the Catholic Church is infallible in her teachings, i e. The
- 19:26Holy Spirit assists the Church in such a manner that she cannot err in preserving
- 19:30and announcing of revealed doctrine. Just as our reason previns us from making statements
- 19:37which are contrary to certain fundamental truths. So the Holy Ghost exerts his influence
- 19:42to prevent the Church giving any decision contrary to the truth caught by Christ.
- 19:48The infallibility of the Church is not in any way like that of God with
- 19:52God, for she attributes it not to herself, but to God's special providence
- 19:56over her. The Church delivers her infallible decisions through general councils and through the
- 20:03Pope. In every kingdom some court is established for the settlement of doubtful cases.
- 20:07It is evident that the all wise God must have instituted such a tribunal
- 20:12in his kingdom. And this tribunal is the general assembly of the bishops,
- 20:17For at his ascendant to Heaven, he gave them the power to teach and
- 20:19promise them immunity from error Matthew eight eighteen through twenty. Hence the expression of
- 20:26Saint Cyprian, the Church is in the bishops. Now, since the bishops
- 20:30cannot always assemble together or account of their duties towards their particular dioceses, some
- 20:34other tribunal must exist with power to give infallible decisions. This tribunal is the
- 20:40pope speaking ex cathedral. The priests have not this infallibility secured to them,
- 20:48though their services are indispensable to the bishops in carrying out the teaching office.
- 20:52Priests, when present in the assemblies of Bishops, are so as counselors,
- 20:56but without any deciding vote in the question of itsas iteration. So soon as
- 21:02the Church defines the question of doctrine, everyone is bound before God to submit
- 21:06under pain of excommunication. A general council is the assembly of bishops of the
- 21:11world, presided over by the Pope. The apostles in the year fifty one
- 21:15held the first Council of Jerusalem and an owls their decision is as coming from
- 21:19God. Of the first four general councils, Saint Gregory the Great asserted that
- 21:26he held them in equal honor with the four Gospels. Since the Council of
- 21:30Jerusalem, there have been twenty general councils assembled. The first of these was
- 21:33held in Nicea in the year three twenty five to repel the Aryan heresies.
- 21:38The following are especially worthy of note. The third Council of Ephesus in four
- 21:42twenty five, where Mary was declared the Mother of God. The seventh General
- 21:47Council or the second of Nicea in seven eighty seven, where the veneration of
- 21:52images was declared lawful. The twelfth General Council or fourth Lateran in twelve fifteen,
- 21:57which imposed the obligation of Easter commit union. The nineteenth General Council at
- 22:02Trent in fifteen forty five, occasion was occasioned by Luther's heresies, the twentieth
- 22:10General Council of the Vatican in eighteen seventy, where the infallibility of the pope
- 22:15was defined as article faith. The presence of all the bishops is not required
- 22:18for a General Council, but the greater number of them must be there.
- 22:22Nor is the unanimous vote in any way necessary to secure a definition. A
- 22:26majority of votes approaching more or less to unanimity is quite sufficient. Thus in
- 22:32Vatical Council. Thus, in the Vatican Council, five hundred and thirty three
- 22:37bishops voted for the definition of papal infallibility to vote against, and fifty two
- 22:42were absent from the meeting. Nor is it necessary that the Pope should preside
- 22:47in person. He may act through his legates, as in the third and
- 22:52first, third and fourth General councils. All that is necessary is that the
- 22:56Pope should approve of the decrees of the councils. Others besides bishops, have
- 23:02a vote, such as cardinals, generals of the religious orders, and all
- 23:04who have episcopal authority, as in the case of many prelates and abbots.
- 23:10Suffragins have also a vote when they are summoned. This happened in eighteen seventy.
- 23:15The General Council only settles questions after mature consideration, relying generally on the
- 23:21teachings of the Catholic Church in the early ages. Besides general councils, there
- 23:25are national councils or assemblies are the bishops of a nation or a kingdom under
- 23:30their primate, and provincial councils or meetings of the bishop and dignitaries of a
- 23:36district under the archbishop, and finally, diocesan synods or assemblies of clergies under
- 23:41their bishops. Such assemblies have no claim to infallibility. Remember that you know
- 23:47this synod on synidality new claim to infallibility. Now the pope is always infallible.
- 24:02But Pope Francis has not said anything specifically on morals and doctrin he says
- 24:07a lot of questionable things. It should be treated with respect as the pope.
- 24:12But he has not made any ex cathedraish statements that have changed or altered
- 24:19in any way Catholic teachings on morals and doctrines. People say he has,
- 24:23he really hasn't. He's given his opinion on things, and he said people
- 24:29need, you know, should be more charitable and more kind, and you
- 24:32know all that, But he has not changed Catholic teaching in any way.
- 24:37He clarified the words of the Lord's Prayer the Our Father. That's been I
- 24:42mean, many religious figures about history have said that that needed to be done
- 24:48for a long time. You know. Somebody finally got around to it.
- 24:52But that's it. And even that isn't He didn't say we couldn't pray the
- 24:56old version anymore, you know, so he didn't really change anything. The
- 25:04general consent of the bishops all of the world confirmed by the Pope is also
- 25:08infallible. This may happen when the pope asked their opinion on questions of doctrine
- 25:14and morals. A case of this kind happened in eighteen fifty five. The
- 25:17Pope sent round the various bishops of the world to ascertain the feeling of Christians
- 25:22at large in regard to the immacticlate conception of Our Lady. As nearly all
- 25:26replies approved of the doctrine, it was solemnly defined as faith. This consensus
- 25:30of the bishops, though living apart from the time, was infallible because the
- 25:33Holy Spirit is not confined by limitations of place. Nor was the solemn declaration
- 25:40necessary. It was quite sufficient that all the bishops did teach in the same
- 25:42sense in regard to any given subject, to make that teaching infallible where it
- 25:48otherwise the Church would be capable of teaching heresy or falling away from the truth.
- 25:52And Savatican Council declared not only that not only must that be accepted which
- 25:57has been solemnly defined by the true Church, but also whatever is proposed by
- 26:03the lawful and general teaching authority. The Pope makes an infallible definition when,
- 26:07as a teacher and guide of the Church, he proposes to the universal Church
- 26:11a doctrine of faith or morals. These are called doctrinal That's what I'm saying,
- 26:15Pote Francis, you know, as questionable as some things he says and
- 26:18does, may be has not done anything to change the doctrine of the Church.
- 26:23The Vatican Council in eighteen seventy decreed that all doctrinal decisions of the Pope
- 26:27are infallible. This is the logical consequence of the words of Christ to Saint
- 26:33Peter. Thou art Peter, And upon this rock I will build my church
- 26:36Matthew, sixteen eighteen. If the foundation of the Church were to fail,
- 26:40it would not be a rock but Quicksand moreover, Saint Peter was appointed shepherd
- 26:44of the apostles by the faithful and the faithful by these words of our Lord.
- 26:48Feed my lambs, feed my sheep John twenty one, fifteen seventeen,
- 26:52and received the power to confirm his brethren in the faith in Luke twenty two
- 26:57thirty two. If then the post were to teach error, our Lord's promise
- 27:02would have come to nought. Decisions in matters of doctrine were held in the
- 27:07greatest reverence from the earliest times. When the Roman See condemned in four seventeen
- 27:11the errors of Pelagius, Saint Augustine cried out. Rome has spoken, the
- 27:17cause is at an end, and Saint Cyprian says no heretics can gain admitutes
- 27:22to the Church. Even general councils call the Bishop of Rome the Father and
- 27:27Teacher of all Christians, Council of Florence, etc. And the Roman Church
- 27:33the mother and teacher of the faithful Council of later and etc. Of course,
- 27:37the church, understood here is the teaching the hearing church, having no
- 27:42claim to teach the pope. The Pope must be infallible. For this reason
- 27:49too, he has full power to govern the church, for with his power
- 27:55as necessarily linked the authority to teach. For with his power or is necessarily
- 28:00linked the authority to teach. The supreme teaching office of the Church involves infallibility
- 28:06in accordance with the divine promise of the assistance of the Holy Ghost. In
- 28:10consequence to this, the decisions of the Pope are infallible of themselves, quite
- 28:14independently of the consider of the bishops, where it otherwise, the rock or
- 28:18successor of Saint Peter would derive its strength and solidity from the building raised upon
- 28:22it the church. It would, however, be quite wrong to assert that
- 28:26the Pope is infallible in all things, for he is a man and can
- 28:30make mistakes as other men in writing, speaking, etc. He can also
- 28:34commit sin as other men, and unhappily, some popes have led very scandalous
- 28:38lives. When the Pope gives a decision on a doctrinal matter, it is
- 28:42Christ who keeps him from error by the agency of the Holy Ghost. Moreover,
- 28:47the bishops are always consulted before any such decision is given. Addresses to
- 28:52Pilgrim's letters to Kings and Princes, the brief Suppression of the Society of Jesus.
- 28:57The Jesuits seventeen seven three are not infallible pronouncements. Doctoral decisions are usually
- 29:04accompanied by a sense of excommunication against those who refuse to submit to them.
- 29:10Hence, such decisions are binding for all Catholics. Although the Pope is infallible
- 29:15his solemn decision, general councils are not, for that reason superfluous, for
- 29:21they confer a greater external solemnity on the Pope's decrees, and the teachings of
- 29:25the Church can be thoroughly examined in these assemblies. Hence, these general councils
- 29:30may, under certain circumstances, be necessary as well as useful. In other
- 29:34words, you know, even the Pope needs to discuss things with the bishops.
- 29:38And he goes on to say even the apostles held a general council at
- 29:44Jerusalem, though each single apostle was infallible in his office as teacher. And
- 29:49one last point on this, and it is the Church pronounces infallible judgments in
- 29:56the following cases on doctrines of faith and morals and the meanings and interpretation on
- 30:02the Holy Scripture and tradition and their interpretation. Okay, so, for instance,
- 30:07when the Church put together the Bible, that's the Bible, Martin Luther
- 30:11didn't have any right to stript books out of or to change the words of
- 30:14Jesus. When some Protestant tells you the King James Bible is the only Bible
- 30:18they believe, you need to explain to them that's not the real Bible.
- 30:22That's a fake Bible. It's an incomplete Bible at the very best. It's
- 30:29also full of errors, and it's had thousands of corrections since its first publication.
- 30:34If, for instance, the Church declares that punishments of hell are eternal,
- 30:37the declaration is infallible, for it is made on a doctor of faith.
- 30:41Or again, if it declare that the observation of Sunday is a command
- 30:45of God. The declaration turns on the teaching in regards to morals and is
- 30:48therefore infallible. Yes, Christians go to church on Sunday. Why do Christians
- 30:53go to church on Sunday. Well, it's the day Jesus rose from the
- 30:56dead. It's the logical consummation of the Law of Moses. Jesus died for
- 31:03all the sins committed under the law, and even after for all sins of
- 31:07mankind, laid in the tomb during Saturday, and rose on Sunday, giving
- 31:12us a new world and new religion, a new man. But even were
- 31:15that not the case, he gave his authority to the Catholic Church to say
- 31:19Christian worship should be on Sunday, and any church that says it shouldn't be
- 31:25like the Seven day Adventists, toward observe it, and all that don't follow
- 31:29the teachings of Christ much less as church. They don't believe in his authority,
- 31:34because to believe in his authority is to believe in the authority he gave
- 31:37to the apostles and their successors. Christ made a special promise to his apostles
- 31:44that the Holy Ghost should teach them all truth. Now, he said that
- 31:47to the apostles. He didn't say that to everybody who just picks up the
- 31:49Bible and reads it. By the way, he said that to the apostles,
- 31:53says Sean sixteen thirteen. If it were true that everybody could read the
- 31:59Bible and begud in all understanding by the Holy Spirit, there wouldn't be up
- 32:04to fifty thousand Protestant nominations, each of whom disagree with each other, and
- 32:07all of whom reject the Catholic Church. Because there's only one truth. I
- 32:14mean, even if you got you know, totally rejected the Catholic Church.
- 32:16The very fact that Methodists and Presbyterians don't agree on anything would disprove that tenant
- 32:23of Protestantism, and it is one of Martin Luther's key beliefs and has led
- 32:29millions of people astray. In other words, that the Holy ghosts would teach
- 32:34them all truth bearing on religion, and that religion included morality as well as
- 32:37belief may be gathered from the words of Christ, just as before his ascent
- 32:42into heaven. He said, going therefore, teach ye all nations, teaching
- 32:46them observe all things. Whatever I have commanded you Matthew twenty eight, nineteen
- 32:52twenty. He didn't say give him a bible, he said teach him.
- 32:57And with regard to this last order, promised that the assistance he promised in
- 33:00the assistance of the Holy Ghost, and consequently consequently infallibility. Since the Church
- 33:07derives her doctrine from two sources, holy scripture and Holy tradition, it must
- 33:13be infallible in its interpretation of both. You see, Protestantism entirely rejects Holy
- 33:20tradition. Even though Saint John in the Bible said Jesus taught so many things
- 33:24they couldn't be written down in all the books of all the earth. I
- 33:28mean, if they've actually believed the words of the Bible, they'd have to
- 33:30believe that He taught things that aren't recorded in the Bible. They reject the
- 33:34tradition handed on to us from the Apostles. Moreover, it is certain that
- 33:38the Catholic Church is infallible when it declares that any given opinion on faith or
- 33:42morals is contrary to their revealed teaching. As also in the Canonization of Saints,
- 33:47it is the common opinion of theologians that the Church is infallible and judging
- 33:51whether a proposition is opposed to revealed teaching. If, for example, the
- 33:55Church were to condemn the assertion that man is the offspring of a pair of
- 33:59apes contrary to revelation, it would be acting quite within the limits of its
- 34:02infallibility, and on a subject most intimately connected with revealed doctrine. If the
- 34:08church can see the truth, that must say also be able to recognize error.
- 34:14From the earliest time, the Church is condemned error, whether taught by
- 34:16writing or by word of mouth. At the Council of Nice in three twenty
- 34:21five, the errors of areas were condemned by the bishops. Up to the
- 34:24present day, the Pope has continually condemned books which have attacked faith and morals.
- 34:30We need a lot more of that. By the way people say the
- 34:32free speech absolutists really make a huge mistake. There are any such thing as
- 34:39moral and illmral. It can only be decided by an infallible church. And
- 34:44the church says the writings that teachings of that book are immoral, then the
- 34:50faithful needs listens to its church. It's not the job of a government,
- 34:53but it is of a church. Any mistake can either be atifying. Let
- 34:59me see, any mistake can either be atifying or canonizing seems well nigh impossible,
- 35:08even when on natural grounds, grounds on account of the strict examination assisted
- 35:13on it's not easy to get declared a saint. That's what he's saying.
- 35:15By the act of canonization, the ve veneration of a saint, and so
- 35:21to a certain extent, the acknowledgment of the church's belief in him is imposed
- 35:24on the faithful, and he is then officially recognized in the church's offices,
- 35:30as in the Mass and the brevery Breviary. Hence, if anyone not a
- 35:36saint were declared holy, the whole church would approve an error. Such a
- 35:39supposition is impossible. Benedict the fourteenth declared his own experience in a case of
- 35:45the assistance of the Holy Spirit in removing insuperable difficulties which beset a process,
- 35:52or, on the other hand, in breaking it off entirely. Finally,
- 35:55the Church, in its decisions, whether it beatification or canonization, is dealing
- 36:00with things which have the closest connection with the doctrine of faith and morals.
- 36:07All right, y'all will leave it there today. You may be able to
- 36:09tell. Allergies are horrible for me right now, the pine pollen. It
- 36:13looks like smoke outside. So if I sound a little nasally or had to
- 36:17clear my throat a few times, I hope you'll forgive me. Let's remember
- 36:22the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't worry, and
- 36:25I'll talk to y'all next time.