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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-26 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: program that is Chucking Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. Happy Tuesday to you all.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, it is a Tuesday. We had the day
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  Speaker 2: off yesterday and we rarely get those days off. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we've had a three day weekend in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six, not since New Year's I'm pretty sure that
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  Speaker 2: we haven't. And uh, well, it threw me completely off
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  Speaker 2: of my Tuesday morning game. I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was very excited. The reason that I
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  Speaker 2: was so distracted Ashley was because I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: the first segment and the second segment, how we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: put the show together today, and in doing so completely
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  Speaker 2: forgot like seven things that I need this morning, Seven
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  Speaker 2: very obvious things that I bring to the station every
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  Speaker 2: single day. Oh like what, well, Number one my pass
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  Speaker 2: to get in okay, Number two, my bag that has
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  Speaker 2: everything in it that I need. Okay, number three the
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  Speaker 2: headsets that are in the bag that I have to
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  Speaker 2: use in order to hear the programming. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm using right now, but I'm sure are
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  Speaker 2: they're infested, and they are definitely throwing off my game
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  Speaker 2: because they don't sound. I don't sound like I normally sound.
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  Speaker 4: I have had to use those headphones and they throw
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  Speaker 4: me off. Also, they squeeze really tight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're squeezy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it sounds a little more timmy or
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  Speaker 4: something than my normal headphones, and I don't like them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I'm thrown off a little bit
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  Speaker 2: by that.
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  Speaker 1: But you remembered yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I did. I forgot my hair piece. I left that
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  Speaker 2: yeah out, I mean right by the coffee maker, I
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  Speaker 2: think there. Yeah, But then again, I forgot coffee this morning. No,
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  Speaker 2: I would never forget that. But anyway, it's good to
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  Speaker 2: be with you. I mean, Ashley had reasons for being
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  Speaker 2: discombobulated this morning as well. I'm telling you, sometimes these
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  Speaker 2: days off aren't really worth it. I'm totally kidding, they're
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  Speaker 2: totally worth it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as I told you, it didn't really feel like
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  Speaker 1: I had a day off. We were in when Acchi
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  Speaker 1: all weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We left a beautiful vacation weekend and when Atchie full vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Softball weekend and Nanchi. Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: So we left at one thirty on Friday. So after
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  Speaker 4: we're here, I raced home to get all my other
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  Speaker 4: work done, including our Best Stuff show, which I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if people heard based on what I saw on
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  Speaker 4: the X, I don't know. I was confused by that.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, then we left there. We got to win
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  Speaker 4: Acchi at like five, and then it was softball all
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  Speaker 4: day Saturday, and then we were up at six on
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  Speaker 4: Sunday and six on Monday from our softball. Oh we
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  Speaker 4: made the I think it took us.
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  Speaker 1: Four and four hours, just over four hours to get
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  Speaker 1: home yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Wow is it?
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  Speaker 4: And then I didn't sleep well, which is weird because
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  Speaker 4: I was in my own bed, which I should have
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  Speaker 4: slept like a little slam Yeah, exhausted and in my
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  Speaker 4: own bed, I should have slept like.
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  Speaker 1: A little lamb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well I was also.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was worried I was gonna oversleep, probably
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  Speaker 4: because when I went to bed, I got in bed
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, okay, sweet slumber.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I should probably set my.
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  Speaker 4: Alarm, and then I couldn't set my alarm, and then
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  Speaker 4: I think maybe I thought I didn't, so I was worried.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. But it's Tuesday now, so we only
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  Speaker 4: have four days.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. And uh and yeah, and we
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  Speaker 2: got a good show planned for you today. We got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things to talk about. I hope little
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  Speaker 2: lambs sleep well.
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  Speaker 1: I think they would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to think, so, I would hope. So.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, just gotta I don't know what happened
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  Speaker 2: to me, but this soft spot for spot for animals
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  Speaker 2: that I have developed late in my life. Like I
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  Speaker 2: was driving here down the down the little you know, yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and a coyote passed by and I'm like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I missed that coyote, and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even think about might have a friend be on
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  Speaker 2: a date or and I didn't even think about that.
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  Speaker 2: I let the first coyote pass, and then I kind
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  Speaker 2: of sped back up and got going because I had
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  Speaker 2: people packed behind me, and I didn't even think. And
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  Speaker 2: I look over and there's a coyote like scared, like
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  Speaker 2: waiting waiting to cross and like back, and just the
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  Speaker 2: look on his or her face was like scared of
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  Speaker 2: the moving traffic and getting separated from Oh just.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm really glad you brought this up, because
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  Speaker 4: we were on our way to Winnachi. I had like
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  Speaker 4: the most traumatizing thing I could witness, and we were
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  Speaker 4: so we were almost to the rest area.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you'll be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, we were all we were because I wouldn't tell it
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  Speaker 4: if it was terrible. We were on our way, like
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  Speaker 4: you know where the rest area is before Levenworth if
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  Speaker 4: you're on highway too. So we're there and we look
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  Speaker 4: over in the left lane. There's no traffic coming in
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  Speaker 4: the left lane or the you know, the westbound lanes,
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  Speaker 4: and we look over and we're like what is that. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's a mom duck with her like four to six
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  Speaker 4: little duck LANs trying to cross highway to on Friday
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  Speaker 4: Memorial Day traffic. And we're going fifty or sixty miles
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  Speaker 4: per hour, you know, right there, And I look and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, these ducks are all going
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  Speaker 4: to die. What are we gonna do? Yeah, there's no
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  Speaker 4: one coming right now. But then a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 4: later we see a truck. I'm like, well, they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: have gotten across our lane, and now they're all gonna
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  Speaker 4: be smushed.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I couldn't stop thinking about it the
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  Speaker 1: entire weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So we're driving back yesterday and I'm like, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: prepared to see duck bodies in the road.
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  Speaker 1: No duck bodies in the road. Okay, they all made
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  Speaker 1: it safely.
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  Speaker 4: They all made it safely, every single one of them,
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  Speaker 4: because I know exactly where they were when they crossed.
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  Speaker 2: Can we just buy can't we just build duck bridges? Right,
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  Speaker 2: we're all.
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  Speaker 4: Ducks, well, duck overpasses those little baby ducklands. You know,
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  Speaker 4: my mom could have flown away if she was scared.
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  Speaker 1: What are the babies gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: I was Elon musk doing with all that money, just
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  Speaker 2: builds a bunch of duck overpasses.
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  Speaker 4: Please, he's about to be a trillionaire. I have a
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  Speaker 4: great investment for him.
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  Speaker 2: They had like a coyote underpass, yes, under the roads.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I hope everybody out there had a good weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We got some pretty good weather. I even love the
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  Speaker 2: weather on yesterday, the rainy. I loved it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we get We've had a great stretch of sunny, gorgeous
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  Speaker 2: days and then to get a but I gotta be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I went to the park couple times it was getting
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  Speaker 2: a little dusty. We needed that rain yesterday. It was
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  Speaker 2: perfectly delivered. I had to do laundry and watch sports
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  Speaker 2: all day anyway, so it worked out just perfectly. So
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  Speaker 2: here we are. We're ready to go on Tuesday, and
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  Speaker 2: we certainly do not have a shortage of topics, especially
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  Speaker 2: in regards to our local baseball team. So we'll dive
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  Speaker 2: into that. We'll get to what's on tap here in
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  Speaker 2: a moment. Ashley Ryan Chuck Powell with you just soft
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  Speaker 2: hearted animal lovers?
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  Speaker 1: Really are?
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  Speaker 2: Mariners do win yesterday by a final score of nine
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  Speaker 2: to two, but it still couldn't keep the fan base
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  Speaker 2: from being furious. Last night.
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  Speaker 1: People were angry, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't really understand it anymore. The only thing that I
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  Speaker 2: could say is that you dug so much into the loss,
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  Speaker 2: the disastrous end to the last piggyback game, that you
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  Speaker 2: just went so far and declaring how stupid it is
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  Speaker 2: that you could not even be reasonable last night, because
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  Speaker 2: the reasonable reaction to it was despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: obviously Luis Castillo and Bryce Miller are still not on board,
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  Speaker 2: which we'll get to in a moment. It has been effective,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily like it either, And there are
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  Speaker 2: certainly some things that I would have done differently last night,
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  Speaker 2: and we've already talked about the things that we would
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  Speaker 2: have done differently last week. But like any experiment that
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  Speaker 2: you do, and that's what they're doing. Nobody's ever done
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  Speaker 2: this piggyback thing before, and there and again we have truck.
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  Speaker 2: We have talked for over a month as to what
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  Speaker 2: are we going to do. This is not a bad
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  Speaker 2: problem to have, but it is not going to be
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  Speaker 2: an easy thing to solve. What do you do when
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  Speaker 2: you have six starting pitchers and five rotations, So we
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  Speaker 2: knew that there were going to be some broken eggs
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  Speaker 2: to make this omelet. We knew that. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there's a perfect solution out there. If Luis
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  Speaker 2: Castillo's angry last night, how angry is he going to
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  Speaker 2: be if he gets delegated to the bullpen like I
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  Speaker 2: think he should. That's my personal belief. But when you
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  Speaker 2: strip it all down, you are conducting an experiment. And
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, the experiment the first time worked
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  Speaker 2: really well. And yet, like almost all scientific experiments, it
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  Speaker 2: got to the end and it didn't give you the
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  Speaker 2: result you were looking for. So you don't scrap the experiment.
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  Speaker 2: You adjust a couple of the ingredients, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: the formulas that you were using, a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: the math, and you try to get the better outcome.
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  Speaker 2: And you got a better outcome, yes, and yet still
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  Speaker 2: there's something in it that obviously is not right. Number One,
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  Speaker 2: I would not have taken Luis Castillo after four innings.
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  Speaker 2: He's the veteran, he'd earned the chance to get the win.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't care what analytics people think. Pitchers still
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  Speaker 2: want wins, even today's pitchers still want that win. And
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  Speaker 2: then secondarily, obviously you have not had a good enough
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  Speaker 2: conversation with either Castillo or Miller about this operation and
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  Speaker 2: how it's going to go down. Otherwise they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: both been pissed off when they've had to leave these
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  Speaker 2: two games. So again, I want to put a pin
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  Speaker 2: in that and get back to it later, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to focus on the result was better we won,
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  Speaker 2: That was ideal. We got four shutout innings out of Luis,
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  Speaker 2: we got five strong innings out of Miller. We kept
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  Speaker 2: them both stretched out and didn't have to use the
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  Speaker 2: bullpen at all. That is the desired result of this
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  Speaker 2: entire experiment, and we landed on it in just the
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  Speaker 2: second attempt at this experiment. And still there's some things
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  Speaker 2: to adjust and get batter and long term, we certainly
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do this piggyback thing long term, But
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  Speaker 2: in the interim, with the lack of a perfect solution
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  Speaker 2: for it, they've decided to go down this road, and
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  Speaker 2: like it or not, in seventeen innings, Miller and Castillo
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  Speaker 2: have given up four runs. That's a two point two
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  Speaker 2: five era. I think that's pretty good, better than what
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  Speaker 2: they were performing previously. Yeah, so I don't understand the
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  Speaker 2: fury last night from I don't understand it from Castillo.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it from Miller. I don't understand it
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  Speaker 2: from the fans. I don't get it because it's actually produced.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems to have sharpened Luis Castile. Whatever
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  Speaker 2: this is, if he feels like he has to sing
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  Speaker 2: for his supper or this is some sort of mid
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  Speaker 2: season tryout to stay in the starting rotation. Neither Castillo
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  Speaker 2: or Miller have given us any evidence that they don't
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  Speaker 2: have fight to stay in this rotation. Miller was already good.
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  Speaker 2: Castillo has been better since they've done this in his
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  Speaker 2: last two outings. I would choose just to remind everyone
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  Speaker 2: to put Castillo in the pen. I think Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 2: is one of our three best starting pitchers and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not messing with that, and I would put Luis Castillo
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  Speaker 2: to the pen. That's what I would do. They have
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  Speaker 2: chosen to try to keep them both lengthened that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to try this piggyback experiment, and it worked fine
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  Speaker 2: until the end of the game, and they learned we
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  Speaker 2: don't do that with one run leads anymore. At least
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  Speaker 2: we hope they've learned that.
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  Speaker 1: And also we learned we need to hit more.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And then in the second game it worked ideally yep.
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  Speaker 2: Now I would have gone Castillo five and Miller four
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  Speaker 2: the way the game had unfolded. They went four to
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  Speaker 2: five the other way. There's a reason why they did that.
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  Speaker 2: The reason is is because the truth is, Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 2: is the one they favor if they went to a
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  Speaker 2: five man rotation. Bryce Miller's also coming off an injury.
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  Speaker 2: They just built him up to eighty five ninety pitches.
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  Speaker 2: He pitched only seventy two of the game before a
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  Speaker 2: game that they made a mistake in taking him out
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, and so they don't want him going
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  Speaker 2: right back down to only throwing fifty pitches potentially and
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  Speaker 2: taking away from the progress that they've made with his game.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the reasoning behind it.
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  Speaker 4: And also they're not going to put him in the
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  Speaker 4: after an inning started right to come in.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, they're not going to do that either. But
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  Speaker 2: but that to me is the reason why they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go five with Miller and four with Castillo. Because
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  Speaker 2: Miller is the one coming off of the injury and
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  Speaker 2: he is the one in the lead in this competition.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean, Ashley, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: get it's different. I get it's weird. I get it
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  Speaker 2: blew up the experiment blew up and left all the
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  Speaker 2: scientists with the charred faces and burnt hair at the
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  Speaker 2: end of that first game where they tried the piggyback experiment.
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  Speaker 2: And yet last night was about as ideal as you
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  Speaker 2: want it to go. Both pitchers pitched, both pitchers pitched well,
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  Speaker 2: no bullpen had to be used in the making of
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  Speaker 2: this piggyback, and you walk away with an easy nine
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  Speaker 2: to win, which we hardly ever get. And so for
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  Speaker 2: their still to be fury, I'm just chalking up to
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  Speaker 2: people went so far with their anger after Piggyback one
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  Speaker 2: because we blew the game in ugly fashion that they
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  Speaker 2: just could not acknowledge that it worked successfully last night.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's it just seemed like stubbornness to not
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  Speaker 4: look at all the facts and say, yeah, okay, it worked.
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  Speaker 1: I might not like it, it might not.
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  Speaker 4: Be the ideal situation, which it's not. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: a piggyback is not what you want to do all
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  Speaker 4: season long. No, And they're not going to plan on
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  Speaker 4: doing that all season long, I would assume. So take
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  Speaker 4: it for what it is. They went in with their
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  Speaker 4: plan last night and the plan worked. It's okay to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the plan worked. You don't have to, as a Mariners
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  Speaker 4: fan go in and be like, oh, they screwed it
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  Speaker 4: up again. Did I think that Castillo should have stayed
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  Speaker 4: in longer?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Did Castillo think he should have stayed in longer, clearly yes.
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  Speaker 4: And so if their plan was for him to go
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  Speaker 4: four and Bryce to go five, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 4: As you said, I don't think that was very well
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  Speaker 4: communicated to him prior to the game.
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  Speaker 1: But you got the best out.
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  Speaker 4: Of Castillo in his four innings, and you got a
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  Speaker 4: good game out of Miller, and it was fine because
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  Speaker 4: your offense stepped up. All three things worked, and your
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  Speaker 4: bullpen had a day off had.
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  Speaker 2: A day off, which is part of the desired effect here,
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  Speaker 2: because if you go six man rotation, then you are
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  Speaker 2: you are one less guy in the bullpen, and so
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  Speaker 2: you need your starters to go longer, each one of them,
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  Speaker 2: to make up for the fact that you're one short
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  Speaker 2: in the bullpen. If you go five man rotation and
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  Speaker 2: you take one of them out. Then if you think
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  Speaker 2: Luis Castille was angry last night, he's shown his colors.
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  Speaker 2: He'd obviously be furious if he got moved to the
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  Speaker 2: bullpen full time. And they're trying to manage that. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to massage that. Also, it's a sport where there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of injuries during the course of the year,
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  Speaker 2: especially the starting pitchers, So they don't want to go
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  Speaker 2: from Castillo's lengthened out and pitching well all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden to shortening him and now if if there's an injury,
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  Speaker 2: you might not be able to go back to him.
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  Speaker 2: That's the theory behind this. And again not even they
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  Speaker 2: are saying they've figured this thing out. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: four weeks that there's no easy solution to this, so
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  Speaker 2: they've gone the piggyback. I'm not sure it's the best
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  Speaker 2: solution for it, but I did say going into it,
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  Speaker 2: it's an interesting idea. Let's see how it plays out.
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  Speaker 2: It was not a disaster the first time around. Both
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  Speaker 2: of those guys pitched well. Ferrera was excellent in the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: The mistake that they made was you have to handle
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a one nothing game differently than you do other games,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and that includes when you're experimenting with how are we
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: going to use these starters when we only have five
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: spots for them? So I think they'll learn from that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think they'll do the same thing when the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: next one run game comes up. And I don't even
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: know how much longer we're going to do this piggyback.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: But Jerry Depoto said, ideally, we score a lot of runs.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: This was while the first piggyback experiment was going on.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto said, ideally, we score enough runs that we
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: just have to use two pitchers tonight, we keep them
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: both lengthened out, they both pitch well, and we win
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the baseball game. And that's exactly what happened last night.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And yes, I think you go back to the drawing
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: board and say, hey, pitchers still do want the win,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: right And if we respect Luis Castillo and he's rolling
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: through four, let's let him finish the fifth. But I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: know they went into it leaning toward Bryce pitches five,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Castillo pitches four, And for the reasons I said earlier,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: if they really had to make a decision between the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: two of them for the next time in the rotation.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Miller's the choice. He is the lead dog in the race,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and they also have him coming off an injury list,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: so they don't want to go back on what they've
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: developed with his arm strength, and so that's why they
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: went four and five and they had a seven run
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: cushion in order to do that. In the process, Castillo's
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: feelings got hurt, and in the process, Miller made it
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: very clear again he doesn't like it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: So those are the two things that you're dealing with.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: But in terms of whether or not the piggyback was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: successful last night, it was highly successful. And I have
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a feeling that if you were went to bed angry
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: about a nine to two win last night, it's that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you went so far the other saying what a disaster
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: it was, that you could not acknowledge the merits to
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: it last.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Night, right, and you're and you're just too focused on
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: what you want the end result to be, which is
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Castillo going to the bullpen. Well, maybe that will happen,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: but it's a process while they figure it out. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: if the process is working, except that the process is working,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: it's okay.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It certainly worked last night. Yeah, it was last night's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: working long term, I have no idea that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: It worked last night.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: So take it each time and be happy that they
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: look at the first piggyback to the second piggyback that
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: was how you wanted it to go to a t.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we don't have time to get into it now.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I promise we will, because we're gonna talk about this
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a lot today. But obviously there's not been enough communication
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: with Miller and Castillo, or they're being petty children, one
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: or the other. My guess is it's the first that
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it has not been mapped out. Go to them as
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: professionals and tell them this is what we're doing, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we're doing it to try to save you both as
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: starting pitchers and there's a chance you might come after
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: four out after four innings. For both of them to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: have been as angry as they were coming out of
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the games seems to me there was a breakdown in communication.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: To have to watch my manager sit there on the
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: bench for an entire inning and have to now explain
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to Luis Yeah, why he's not going back, why he's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: not going back in seems ludicrous for him to say,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, like you could read his lips. I'm sorry.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, first secondly, take that back into the clubhouse.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Don't do that on the bench, and then look around like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: oh gosh, cameras are on us. No crap, cameras are.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: On everyone's trying to lip read.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: All right, let's we'll get into more of it later.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the show today.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: What's on tip?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: What's on tip? Mariners went nine to two over the A's.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We will get into Mariners morning after because there were
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of good things to discuss other than being
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: angry about the piggyback. So we'll do that at six thirty.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock and Luis Severino will square off tonight. That
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: is your pitching matchup. Same two teams, first pitch at
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: six forty from Sacramento, California. And what they win tonight?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: The Mariners are within a half a game of first place.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Oh was that all it took?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: The road to Omaha is set. College Baseball sixty fourteen
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: field is ready to go with its regional action. The
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: number one ranked team in America UCLA wasn't the softball team.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Wasn't UCLA the number one rank softball ball team is incredible.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so what a run that your hated Bruins
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: on stupid powder blow But the Coogs made the tournament,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: made the sixty fourteen field, so they're going to be
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: in the Eugene Regional. So good for the Koug's NBA.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: The next swept the Cavaliers. Man was at a blowout
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: last night, one thirty to ninety three. Is anyone in
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the world playing better basketball? Is anyone in the world
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: better at what they do for a living than what
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the Knicks are. They are just dominating in every game
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that they play right now, and now they just wait
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: for the Western Conference Finals to be settled. Game number
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: five tonight and a two to two series. San Antonio
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: at OKC. Carolina won an overtime last night in Montreal,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: three to two. They now have a two to one
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. Meanwhile, the Western
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Conference Finals of the Avalanche holding on for dear life.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: They're down three to zero and Nathan McKinnon and cal
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: mccarr are hurt. Looks like the Knights are going to
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: be moving on finally over the weekend. LAFC on Sunday
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: one over the Sounders by a final score of one
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to nil Mariner's Morning after next, we'll get into all
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: sorts of things on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think there's not an easy science,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: you know, the figgyback thing, and and uh, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I think, uh always, you know, you're kind of weigh
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: in a lot of different things, and and uh, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: a tough you know decision in terms of the Rock
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: and and uh, you know, I think he continues to
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: prove to be an incredibly selfless player. And and you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I think that both those guys really threw the ball
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: well and and I thought kept that line up down.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Was it predetermined for innings or count there it was?
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if it was predetermined, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, just once Bryce gets going there, it's,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of hard to get, you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: to to to set them down. And so I think
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: it was a you know, a situation where we we
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: went with it, and and uh again, tough ones, I know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: and and uh you know, I think Rock deserves a
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: lot of.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Presit O Dan Wilson last night after the game, you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: would have thought the Mariners lost, but they did win
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: nine to two the final score, and the piggyback went
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the complete game distance allowed just two runs, and even
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: those two runs you pitched differently when you're up seven
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: might have been might not have scored at all. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the piggyback combo of Luis Castillo and Bryce Miller through
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: two games two point one to two e er. That's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: pretty decent, which is better than any other spot in
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the rotation this year.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, piggyback clearly didn't work last night.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: There are some things about it that are working. I mean,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I don't love the idea.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there can be two things can be true. You
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: cannot like it, but you can acknowledge that it works.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not. It's not been a disaster, right, that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: for sure. Yes, it ended disastrously.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Massive disaster the first time, but.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That's because Andre's muno inherited. And by the way, two
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: of those four runs that they've allowed over seventeen innings
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: were inherited from munos who couldn't close the door. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you know that didn't work, and I hopefully they learned
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: a lesson. We didn't get to see if that could
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: be applied last night because you were up seven, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: hopefully the organization learned a lesson from that and won't
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: do that again. I think we do have to protect
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: a precious one run lead and leave that in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: ninth inning to our most seasoned closer outer of games
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and Andres Munjos. But we didn't get to see if
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: they learned that lesson last night because the win was
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: so easy because we hit and both pitchers pitched very
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: very well in winning by the final score of nine
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to two. But this has been obviously a big topic
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: already on the show, will continue to be. We'll get
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: right Heally's opin, you know on at nine o'clock today.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: ABC's of the M's coming up a little bit later
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: on this hour as well, and we will talk about
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the Piggyback at great length Piggyback two and Theater's near
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you Electric Boogaloo this time Bryce right Castile. But I'll
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: say this, I mean, I'm gonna get to the headlines
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: here in a little bit. But obviously it's they haven't
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: explained it well to Bryce Miller and Luisca Steele.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: For both of those guys to have been angry both games,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like some thing's not getting communicated well to the two
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of them. And if it is being communicated well and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: they're just acting like children afterwards, then again we're gonna
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: have to have a conversation about that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Well, especially given what we heard from Pete Woodworth, right
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: that there they'll.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Play wherever, whenever.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Great point, like it doesn't matter, the inning, doesn't matter
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: when they come in.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they will pitch whenever, wherever because they're there for
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: their teammates except for never.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Right, except for when it's uncomfortable.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there might be one exception to that, and that
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: is if they're not starting and going the distance. All right,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: let's get to your headlines. They're brought to you by
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Frost Brewed Corps. Light Mariners do win over the A's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: last night nine to two. Tonight, the same two teams
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: will play in Sacramento, California, six forty. First pitch, two
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: right handers. Emerson Hancock starts for the good guys. Luis
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Severino will pitch for the A's tonight. There will be
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: no piggyback tonight, so nothing to be angry about there,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So first pitch at six forty. But with a win,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, despite their poor play pretty much all season long.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: We'll sit a half game out of first place in
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the American League West.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That feels weird.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: The road to Omaha is set. In college baseball, congratulations
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to the Kougs who have made the field of sixty four.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: They will be participating in the Eugene Region. They're really
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: good the Ducks this year. They're the number one seed
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in that region. I think eleven ranked overall. If I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: memory serves.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Me, Okay, go Cogs.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Weird to say UCLA is the favorite. You're not going
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to say go Bruins, are you? No? No, no, no no.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I can support the Coogs out feeling sick.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: NBA, the Knicks swept the Cleveland Cavaliers out of the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals. I thought games were supposed to get
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: better and closer the longer you win in a tournament. No,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: not going to happen. One thirty to ninety three the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: final score there. So the Knicks are moving on to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the NBA Finals for the first time this century, first
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: time since nineteen ninety nine. San Antonio and Oklahoma City
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: will play tonight in Oklahoma. It will be Game five
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: of that series, which is even at two games. A
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: peace Stanley Cup final playoffs. We're not quite to the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: finals yet. Lina survived Montreal in Montreal last night, three
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: two overtime winner svetch the cough. Too little too late, buddy,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: too little, too late to show up now with the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: game winner for the Hurricanes, who are up to one
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: in that series. And then I assume tonight probably should
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: have wrote this down.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Probably Vegas and Colorado, I would assume tonight.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I believe. So the morning's been a little bit out
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: of whack around here. It's the three day weekend, I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: guess is what's thrown us off. But yes, Colorado Vegas
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: will play tonight in Vegas six o'clock. Vegas is up
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: three to zero in that series, so they can take
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: out the Avalanche tonight. And the Avalanche might be without
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: both McKinnon and macar.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: That won't bode well for them.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: No, I think they're cooked. I think they're cooked. So
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: that's six o'clock. They'll drop the puck in Vegas tonight. Finally,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: well not finally. LAFC won nothing over the Sounders on Sunday. Finally,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the National Football League Driggedell said over the weekend that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it's nonsense. The earlier report about not having not being
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: much interest in Seahawks ownership says there's intense interest in
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Seahawks ownership. So apparently that was a lie one way
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: or the other.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's a lie, yeah, one way or another.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: OTAs gets started as well today for the Seahawks, So
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell will be joining us for the rest of
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the week at seven oh five, so we'll hear from
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: him and Devin Witherspoon report over the weekend that the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: two sides, the Seahawks and Devin Witherspoon are not close
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: on a contract extension where they've obviously already reached one
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: with Checks and Smith and Jigba this off season, So
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that is going to be the topic of conversation. But
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to mention, just briefly, just like how
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: out of whack things are. Boy, you give a morning
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: show the day off. I forgot my bag, I forgot
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I passed to get into the building, apparently Jubile who
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: works at one of our other stations, because I just
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: went to the restroom in the break and I had
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Usually I don't do that, right, I don't do that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: That always happens in the morning before I even come here.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: All that stuff happens before I leave the house. It
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: has to happen. It's part of the routine. But you
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: have an extra day off and you sleep in a
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: couple of days and suddenly you are completely out of
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: your routine. And so to add to it, we have
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: shorter breaks for some reason here this morning, which is fun.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So I I was like racing down the hallway to
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: do something that I normally don't have to do in
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the break, and then I get that done. And can
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I just say this, Yeah, like it is twenty twenty six.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Have we not advanced far enough in our abilities to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: make things easier? To not stack the one toilet paper
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: roll on top of the other toilet paper roll because
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the friction doesn't allow it to ever roll out the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: right way.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I value everything you offer to us,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Kimberly Clark. But if we could make the toilet paper
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: rolls like when the one it should drop down when
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the other one's empty, instead of just sitting on it, it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Just sits on there. Yeah, and then if it's brand new,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: forget about it. If both of them are branded, you're.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Like one square at a time. Can't spare a square there?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: How have we not ergonomically figured out a way to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: do that better.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Great question.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to go after that thing like Wolverine.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: They were like I did. I had to tear it
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: out because I had such little time to get back
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: on the air anyway, So it's been a little laughable.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But uh, but we're here with you, Ashley and Chuck
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: with you here Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three. Kji, all right, let's talk
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: about something that's not as disgusting.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you navigated it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Devin Witherspoon. So the idea heading
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: into the offseason was that both JSN and Devin Witherspoon,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: we're not only going to have not only earned their
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: pay extensions and pay raises and we're going to be
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: paid amongst the top players at their position in the
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: National Football League, that they were so good at what
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: they've done that they would get their extensions done early
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: so that nobody had to worry about that. And Jsn's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: already gotten his done, and we just assumed that at
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: some point after John got done drafting and free agent
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: ing and then you know, roster juggling and trying to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: create space for later moves that then he would be
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: able to focus, you know, before we get to training camp.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And we do have a window coming up before training
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: camp on getting Devin Witherspoon's deal done, making him happy,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: extending him because it seems like a no brainer going forward.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Uh and and yet we get a report over the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: weekend suggesting that the two sides aren't even close. That
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is really hard for me to believe. That is really
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: hard for me to buy. Number one. I'm gonna just
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: say this. I think the report is garbage. I think
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: whoever said that it probably is something like, hey, we're
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: gonna meet later, right We're not worried. We're gonna do
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: OTAs right now, and then we're gonna take a little
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: summer break and then, you know, before training camp, maybe
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: we get with Spoon and then we still work something
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: out in training camp so it doesn't become a distraction.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But also keep in mind, we don't have to do
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: anything right now because we can control him for another
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: season beyond this year, so you know, no big, no
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: big deal. That's that's my reaction. I think that the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: report itself is garbage. Number two, if it is true,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong about that if I'm not reading the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: tea leaves correctly, then I have to ask, how is
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: that possible?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: How could you be on those that different of a page?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: How could you not start close? I could say, I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: could see we aren't at the finish line, and maybe
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that could take a while, and maybe some hurt feelings
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: come up as you have to kind of arbitrate the thing,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: because you've got to tell him why he's not worth
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: as much as what he and his agent think. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: then he's got to tell you, you know, how much
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: they're screwing up if they don't give him top market
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: value and not increase it beyond top market value. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: if there are some finer points to haggle or a
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: few millions to haggle over, maybe the agent's like, we
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: don't want just the next brick in the road beyond
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie. We want something that blows the market away.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: We want to set a new high bar. Apparently, Devin
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon's agent the same agent as Christian and Gonzales, so
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he's kind of working them in tandem this offseason. He's
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the standout, maybe the best corner in the league. Patriots
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: cornerback so he's got them both at the same time
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and they're basically in the same situation. So maybe he's
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: using them in tandem to kind of set an even
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: higher bar than what Trent McDuffie did, kind of blow
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it out of the water. McDuffie signed a four year,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four million dollars deal when he
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: was traded to the Rams this offseason, So that's the
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: new high bar. So there could be some negotiation haggling,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: maybe even some hurt feelings in the process before it
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: does get done, and maybe you don't even get done.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: There's even a world where I can believe that it
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't get done, not this offseason, maybe never. You could
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: even convince me of that that maybe the agent and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon are so dug in on what they feel their
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: client is worth that it's something John's not willing to pay.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I'll even believe that before I believe that they are
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: not close on negotiations, because to me, I don't know
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: how that is possible. You know, all you have to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: do is say he's getting to be a free agent,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: we're trying to sign him early. We just did the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: same thing with JSN. He was obviously watching McDuffie makes
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: four years one twenty four, that's the new high bar.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: So it's got to at least be around four years
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: one twenty four, Right, that's gotta be where it starts
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: or in the vicinity. So if it's not close, what
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: does that mean? Does that mean John and Mike have
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: come in with a low ball offer to somebody that
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: they absolutely love an adore.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: That seems that seems far fetched.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Months after JSN was given exactly what he wants. Or
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: does that mean, like I said earlier, that agent and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Spoon are saying, we don't want just next brick in
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the road money. Thirty one million ain't going to cut it,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: because two three years from now that's gonna look like
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a real bargain. We want fifty I mean, well, it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: unless one of those two things has happened, that John
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and Mike have made a a slap in the face
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: low offer, which I can't believe that they would do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't seem like they would.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Or Spoon and his agent are asking for quarterback money,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: then how on earth could they not be close? How
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: could all right, five years one fifty five, that's that's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: probably should be your opening offer. If you're the Seahawks,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: five years one fifty five, that's what thirty one million
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: dollars a year. That puts you right at McDuffie's annual salary,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: but with an extra year since he's younger, five years
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: one fifty five. If you're not starting there, I think
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you're making a mistake if you're the Seahawks. And if
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that's not at least making Witherspoon happy, maybe he could
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: be happier. Maybe they do want to haggle it, negotiate
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: a little bit more because they want a little bit
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: more than that. But it shouldn't be oh, that's way off.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: If that's way off, then we got a problem with
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Spoon and the agent. So it's just hard for me
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: to believe Ashley that in any world that this negotiation,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: which should be one of the easier ones. I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: we got Spoon done or JSN done in ten minutes,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: how this one shouldn't be just as easy. Just like, oh, hey,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: there's the market. We want to show you how much
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: we love you, your age, your production value. I see
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: what McDuffie made, We're going to give you that plus
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: an extra year. And here's our opening offer, our opening salvo.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: And if the reaction is not even close, what, Yeah,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: it has to at least be close.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: It seems like it has to be an exaggeration on
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: the report because one, I don't think the Seahawks are
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: going into lowball him. They didn't do that with JSN.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Why would they do that with Devin Witherspoon, who they
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: loved just as much.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: They didn't even.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Lowball Kenneth Walker. They offered him twelve million dollars, good point,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: So why would they then come back and try to
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: lowball Devin Witherspoon, who is vital to their organization's future.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: So it leads me to think that if there's any
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: possibility that they are far apart, that it would have
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: to be on the agent's side being a little greedy
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: perhaps in telling his client, oh, no, we can get
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: you more, we can get you more, because we know
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: how much they want you, we know how much they
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: need you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And in that case, well, shame on you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I understand you've got a job to do, but you
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: know he's still gonna make the highest, which will be
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: the highest for ten minutes. Yeah, you know, but that's
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: how it always works. Somebody's the next highest all the time.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: And I I just, yeah, I have a hard time
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: believing that they could be that far apart, because it
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: would take some one side being completely ignorant to what's
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: going on.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Agreed, it'd be one side not just not operating, Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: not operating with any sort of good faith negotiations. That's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that's either the Sea Yawks saying, hey, we just paid
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: that guy. We can't afford to pay you too, not
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: at top market value, and so we're gonna give you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: three or seventy five. Yeah. Well, and I just I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: can't I can't live in that world. I can't believe
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: that Mike McDonald and John Schneider, that would be the
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: olive branch they'd extend to Devid Witherspoon to start the negotiations.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think they would slap. I don't think they
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: would carry a white glove into the room and slap
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Devon across the face with it. And that's how they
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: would start, right. That would be bad, right, And so
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: my guess is they're starting it around mcdell money probably
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: right there. Maybe, like I said, maybe an extra year
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: since he's younger, right, and that's where they're starting. So
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the other possibility is that the agent saying, oh, no, no, no,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I see where the money in the NFL is going,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and we I have two such precious commodities that I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: not just going to take the next salary. I'm not
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: taking a McDuffie's salary. I'm gonna need five years, three
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: hundred million. I mean, if that's what he's doing, then okay,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: we're not close, no, and we're not gonna be so
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: unless somebody is just slapping the face, you know, that's
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the way they're starting the negotia because that's a slap
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: in the face the Seahawks. Yeah, like, no, no, no, no,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: even though you drafted him, groomed him, made him a
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: champion that my client loves playing for you, doesn't want
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to play anywhere else. We're going to make things so
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: financially uncomfortable, or you're gonna have to either consider trading him.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: That that would be like if he was unhappy here,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: which I don't think he's exactly.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Like, if that's the way you're operating as agent, then
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: client has to fire agent. If you are Devin Witherspoon,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: You're like, I want to be here. I want to
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: be paid like I deserve. It's my turn. JSN got his,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I want mine. I know I'm not gonna make JSN
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: money because receivers make more, but I want to be
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the highest paid cornerback, like you said, even if it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: for five minutes. I want the next brick in the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: road contract and you're my agent, Go get me that
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and make sure I stay a seahawk. That's got to
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: be the marching orders. And then if the guy representing
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you walks in and says we're not going to talk
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: about cornerback money, my client is transcended. Hey, you're paying,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: you're paying JSN what, well we want more than that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: If that's the way he's operating, then he's not operating
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: in good faith and Spoon needs to cut him. Now.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just reading into it. I don't know if either
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of those things are happening. And as I said I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: started off with, I think it's probably a bogus report.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: It's just hard for me to believe that JSN was
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: so easy because they did the right thing. This is
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the highest per year salary we're gonna make you the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: highest paid receiver in the NFL. You were Offensive Player
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of the Year. Even if your trophy doesn't say it,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: we're gonna make it. And they got it done in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: record time and probably for less than what JSN could
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: have gotten. And so you've already used the blueprint. If
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: you didn't use the same blueprint on Witherspoon, then you're
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: making a mistake. And I just don't think those two
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: guys make mistakes now, So I don't know why we
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: dealt with this report. Again. My first inclination is to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: think that it's just totally false, because it is impossible
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: for me to believe that they've started negotiations and they're
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: way off. There's no way you can be way off.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Somebody's screwing up.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Royally, right, Yeah, it's got to be the Seahawks offering
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: that next As you said, brick in the road contract
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: and jsent or Jazen, Devin Witherspoon and his agent should
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: be expecting that, they shouldn't be expecting more than that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you not know how contract in the
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: NFL go. Somebody gets the next highest, then somebody gets
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: the next highest. So if you just want to wait
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: till some till Christian Gonzales. If if it's a standoff
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: between Christian Gonzalez and Devin Witherspoon to find out who
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: gets the highest.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And it's the same agent, right, same agent.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying if they're saying, well, no, I don't
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: want to sign yet because I want to be the highest.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I don't want him to be the I don't know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: but the whole thing, Yeah, I just don't buy that
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: they're far apart.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it starts for me at five years,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: one fifty five, and that's where it starts. And if
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: that has insulted anybody in the room, then shame on
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the other people in the room.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're not paying attention.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Right, That's that's where it's going to be at. Now,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: maybe we maybe the Seahawks do have to go higher
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: than that. Maybe maybe they do have a few concerns
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: about his durability. He's a smaller corner that plays like
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: he's Bobby Wagner. I mean, he's he throws his body around.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So maybe there is a little bit of reluctance. Maybe
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: they do start at four. But if they are at
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: four at McDuffie money, that shouldn't insult anybody in the
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: room to say, we're gonna make you the highest paid
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: cornerback in the National Football League. But that's where it
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: should start.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And if that is how you get insulted, I would
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: love to be insulted, right.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Can I please get insulted? Somebody insult me? I don't
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: mean it. Twitter Nation, Yeah you text line all right,
• 46:44
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• 46:46
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• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Because you're we're almost we're half almost halfway done through
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: our Tuesday.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: We're almost to the top of the hill.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Now, once you hit Wednesday, that's the halfway point. And
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: then after Wednesday, you're on Friday. Eve doesn't count because
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: who really puts an effort on Friday.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Well, let's face it, we are not working ever. This
• 47:06
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• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Pretty true.
• 47:11
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• 47:14
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• 47:33
  Speaker 2: So here we go, ABC's of the M's a lot
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to discuss. We've had a lot of games played since
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: last we were on the radio Friday morning, and so
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: let's get you caught up to date. We lost last
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: left off at the letter OH in our alphabet, our
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Daily Mariners segment where we allowed the alphabet to be
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: our guide through a few segments, and OH is for oops.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: We had an oops on Sunday, and then we got
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: it right back yesterday. The A's had an oops that
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: opened up the door for us to score six runs
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: in the third inning. That double play grounder that Josh
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Naylor should have headed into, but Darnell her Eyes missed
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the he fumbled the ground ball, and then Jeff McNeil,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: with a weird pivot at second where he tried to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: make the highlight film rather than just getting the out,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: allowed Josh Naylor to beat it out. He doesn't. If
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: they don't screw that up, we don't score in the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: third inning last night. That was a six run mistake.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And then it's a big difference on that piggyback.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's a six run mistake. You know, that
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: was made last night by not handling that six' four
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: to three routine double play with a slow runner going
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: down the first baseline opened up the door for, us
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and we took advantage of. It certainly we kicked the door.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: In they left the door. Open we kicked the door in,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: now same thing similarly in the previous. Game AND i
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: don't want this entire day just to be about yesterday's
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: nine to, win because it was an ugly, weekend very
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: frustrating weekend In Kansas. City and it's not just because
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: The royals have our. Number there was some really there's
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: some really sloppy baseball being played by this. Team, yeah
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't last, night but over the weekend it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Was and we had another oops moment Where Brian wu
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: seemed to be cruising along in that. Game and then
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the next, thing you, Know Mitch garver does not challenge
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a three to two strike that's a. Walk Then Kyle
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: isabel decides to lay down a, bunt which he did
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: all day long. Yesterday that that was a hit for
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of. People just Think Brian wu threw that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Away yes he did throw it, away and the error
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: cost you second and third instead of first and, Second
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: but there's a reason why all those runs were. Earned
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that was considered a. Hit he was going to beat that,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: out but he never even. Bunts if you don't have
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: guy at, first, right and you don't have a guy at,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: First If Mitch garver challenges a strike call on three to,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: two and he's supposed to be the best challenger in
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the entire league right, statistically and yet lately he won't.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Challenge AND i don't know if he's trying to protect his,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: stats which would be unforgivable because that's not exactly a
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: stat worth. Protecting nelsh help your pitcher out in that.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Situation then we also had you, Know JP's defense And
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Mitch garver tripping over a bat and all sorts of.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Things randy A Rose arena not taking the proper route
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: to a long fly, ball the left field not to
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: be camped under that ball instead of still drifting backwards
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: off balance to try to get a ball that's near
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the top of the wall and should have been caught
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: because it hung, up so just sloppy. Baseball so we
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: had an oops and it went from should have been
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: an easy inning to four runs and we. Lost and
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: then we got an oops back last night should have
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: been an easy for The a's and we ended up
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: with six runs and crews to the. Victory but that's
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: when they say defense matters and that you can't give
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: teams extra. Outs if those aren't two prime examples of,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: IT i don't know what to give, you because that
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: was a four run mistake By Mitch. Garver that was
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a six run mistake last night By darnell Her.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Kneyes, yeah and as simple in The garver case as
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: one pitch. ALL i, MEAN i was shocked he didn't
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: challenge that and yelling at the, television, which as we've talked,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: about is the new aspect of baseball that you're mad at,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: challenges but.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: We're so bad at. Challenging we're so. Bad bad are,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Terrible we're so.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: BAD i don't understand.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: It and and you, know they, say we don't have
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: half the pitching. Issues if we, don't if these errors
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: don't force our pitchers to make that extra, pitch and
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: in this case it's an you, know it was a
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: one pitch.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Difference that's. Frustrating that's. Frustrating, YEAH i, mean isbel never
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: lays down the. BUNT wuo just stays on in rhythm
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and probably gets through six or seven in with a
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: good pitch count if we just aren't playing sloppy ball behind,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: him and it ends up blowing up in the inning
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: because we had an, oops and it leads to all
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: sorts of carnage and then you lose that baseball game
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: and an ugly. Fashion ps for. Piggyback of, course it
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: has to be for. Piggyback and we've got the eight
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: o'clock segment coming up today Which i'm Gonna ashley AND
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: i are kind of recap our thoughts from six o'clock
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: there and maybe add a few different wrinkles to. It
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: but one thing that we didn't get to really sink
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: our teeth into have been the reactions By castillo And,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: miller who are great teammates and great, dudes and obviously
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: neither one of them wants to be involved in this piggyback.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: THING i, mean that's that's very, clear AND i get
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: why they, wouldn't but why we're getting such angered reactions
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: from both of. THEM i, mean last night went about
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: as well as it could go under the. Circumstances four From,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: castile five From, miller easy, win bullpen gets a night.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Off that's the design of the damn. Thing and, Look
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: bryce was up at eighty three pitches in a normal,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Setting you're not going to pitch much more than. That
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: castile got taken out after. FOUR i get why THE
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: i would have kept him in for. Five he is the.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Veteran wins still do matter to, pitchers even though they
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: don't to the analytics, world and maybe they don't do
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: front office.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Nerds but you also had a cushion to work with, There.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: You had a cushion to work. With the rock was. Rolling,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: yeah go ahead and let him pitch his fifth. Inning
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: let him get the, win and Then miller goes. Four,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: yeah but they had different, strategy, Certainly but for both
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: of them to be as, ANGRY i Mean castile's throwing
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: equipment in the Dugout bryce for the second game in a.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Row his postgame comments are not veiled at. All he
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: clearly does not want to be involved in this. THING i, Mean,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: ashley are they just not communicating the? Intent how do
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: They how did they both look so caught off guard
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: by being taken out of the game when we all
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: knew what the plan. Was AND i know That castillo And.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Miller did they just think That dan was going to
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: change his mind in the middle of the game if
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: they were pitching, well WHICH i don't understand why they,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: were why they're not accepting of it when they had
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: to be instructed on how this was going to go.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: DOWN i would have thought.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: So and you, know if they expected The mariners to
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: change a game plan and game then they're clearly not
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: aware of the team that they're playing for because they
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: have a plan and usually they stick to it with
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: regards of when someone's coming out or what's going, on
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: and maybe to a.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Fault, yeah, Agreed.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: AND i THINK i can understand not wanting to be
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: pulled when you think you're doing well and you're, frustrated
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: you don't want to, go you. KNOW i, MEAN i
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: think all pitchers would be frustrated for. THAT i could
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: understand Why Luis castillo was frustrated last. NIGHT i could
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: understand why it's uncomfortable For miller to come in in
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: a reliever. Situation AND i can understand the uncomfortability of
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: it for. SURE i think fans are uncomfortable with. It
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: it is not something we all want to see go
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: on for a long. TIME i do wonder, if In bryce's,
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: words you, know, saying, oh it's not, COMFORTABLE i don't love. This,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Okay well you're being, honest AND i can appreciate that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: He was angry when he got pulled from the first,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: game and it wasn't even happy last night even though
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it worked swimmingly.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Right, Exactly and that's WHERE i wish it's in some
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: point that he kind of would have taken a. PAGE
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: i can't Believe i'm saying this out Of Dan wilson's
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: book and just been, like, yeah it's an uncomfortable, situation
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: but it worked tonight and we got.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: The, win and you, know and we move.
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: On.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: YEAH i wish it was more of a generalized because,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: YES i get, it nobody's thrilled with the.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Piggyback well the.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Works, well THEN i would say take it. Further what
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: would you? Like what would make you? Happy what's your?
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Solution bryce tell us and tell, US i, mean you
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: don't have to always follow a. Script you can speak
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: to the media and tell, us what if you guys
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: want a six man, Rotation but do you have everybody
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: on board with it so that everybody's happy and that
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: they get to, Start because if that's gonna be the,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: case then we're gonna need you to be more effective
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: than what you've been, lately because we got an awful
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: lot of guys in this rotation that can't go through six, innings,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Right and if you're gonna if we're gonna go to
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: a six man, rotation everybody's got to get through six
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: innings because we're down a. Reliever so what what do
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: you want to? Do do you want somebody to be
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: chosen to go right to the? Bullpen and then we
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: just decide that and suddenly they become our seventh. Starter
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: because if that happens and you get used to being
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: in the bullpen and working in shorter, Spurts i'm gonna
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Trust Kate anderson if there's an injury to the starting
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: rotation more so Than i'm going to activate a relief
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: pitcher back into the starting. Rotation so you, knew we,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: knew we knew four weeks this was gonna be a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: difficult decision to, make but a good problem to, have,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Right and so this is the solution they went with for,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: now not the one THAT i would have gone. TO i,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: said just Put castillo in the, bullpen, Right but if
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get that angry last, night then how angry
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: was he going to be if he just got relegated
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to the.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Bullpen, yeah although he didn't seem angry when he came
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: out of the. Bullpen AND i think both of them
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: are irritated that when they're, pitching, well they're getting pulled
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: from the game before they want to get.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: PULLED i don't.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: THINK i, mean he didn't seem angry when he came
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: in from the bullpen and piggyback one, True SO i
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: think it's just. Okay BUT i WISH i think AND
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: i can understand that BECAUSE i think we all agreed
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: we would have liked to See castillo come. Out you
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: have a significant, lead let him work through his fifth,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: inning and you know, what if he gets into too much,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: trouble you can use For rare as the bridge. Again
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: we know if he gets used, yesterday he can pitch again.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Today he's not gonna get any.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Trouble you're up, seven he is.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: EXACTLY i didn't think that it's a big. Deal and,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: yeah you've given him a, cushion so let the guy.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Finish i'd be annoyed.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, well it just feels like to me that
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: they may not have gone far enough. COMMUNICATING i think
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: you're probably right what we're, doing why we're doing, it
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: and why we're doing it for the two of you.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: TWO i, mean we're not doing, this, yeah Because.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Kirby logan AND wu aren't getting sent to the.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Bullpen, yeah We're we're also doing it for you because
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: we want to keep you. Extended, yeah and and so
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: for them to be as angry as they've, been and
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: it's just it's. Strange H, FINALLY q is for questionable. Man,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: OBVIOUSLY Jp crawford's arm strength is way beyond. Questionable there's something.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Wrong If Brendan donovan comes back, SOON i think that's
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: the convenient excuse to put him on THE i L
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: i don't think we're gonna miss as.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: BAD i know.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: He had a home run last, night but he also
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: struck out three times and popped up once and hit.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: That that on base percentage that everybody keeps DEFENDING jp
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: with has really kind of sunk to an all time
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: low uh. LATELY i don't know if you've paid attention to,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: it but it's down LIKE i think three twenty five
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: or something like. That it's not the three seventy that
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: it was not long. Ago so he's really not doing anything.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Well AND i know we had A jp LoveFest last
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: week on the. Show yeah the way for the way
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: he handled. Everything but the truth of the matter is
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: his offense does not justify his. Defense right, now he
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: should not be in the starting. Lineup and if he
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: can't make the throw it, short then he can't make
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: the throw from. Third AND i know it's a different,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: throw but we're not talking about just being off a little.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Bit, no he seems hurt or.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Something he can't make a, Throw so it's either in
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: his head psychologically that he can't make, it or a
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: combination of the. Two but he those throws aren't just
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: because he's deep in the. Hole those are routine throws
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: that he is not getting anywhere close at. Times To Josh,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: naylor it's not gonna work any better at third than
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: it is at. Short so When donovan is, READY i
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: think the move Is donovan's. Activated JP's on the il
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: if nothing, else just to buy some, time and that's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the that's the decision going. Forward there is no justification
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: FOR Jp crawford being in our starting lineup right. Now
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: he's not hitting he's not, fielding and he can't.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Run, Yeah and it's it's so weird to come from,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: this the selflessness talk of last week and him, saying you,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Know i'll go to third AND i love, that and,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: that you, know him being a good teammate and a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: good leader and wanting to do whatever he can to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: help the. TEAM i think he would recognize what he's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: doing right now is not helping the.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Team he is a. DETRIMENT i hate to put it that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Way it's, unfortunate but it's it's Because i'm not saying
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: it personally Because JP's, great, yeah but As i'm a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: professional sports talk show host AND i do like to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: say it like it. Is and he is a detriment
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: to winning right. Now AND i don't care if he
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: had a wind blown home run last night when you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: were already up seven to. NOTHING i don't give it
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: there six. NOTHING i don't give a damn about. That
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: he does not have a good. Approach he's trying to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: hit home runs and that either leads to him striking,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: out which he can't do from the leadoff, spot or popping.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Up so with four out of his five at bats
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: he was striking out or popping. Up so what he
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: had a wind blown home run on any other, night
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: that's a fly ball to center.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Field, yeah and if his defense was, great you'd excuse,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: it or vice, versa if his if His, yeah if
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: his defense was great and his offense was, Bad, okay
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: you've got a great, shortstop so you're gonna you're just
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: gonna put up with the bat at. Bats or if
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: his offense was great and his defense was, Suspect, okay
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: he's contributing to the to.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: SCORING i don't know a right, either.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Piggyback more on that coming up at eight. O'clock coming
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: up next, Though oh, boy do we have a treat
• 1:01:44
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• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Hey Happy tuesday to you. ALL i hope you had
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: a Great Memorial day weekend out. There it Is chuck
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: And ashley with you as we roll into the eight o'clock.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Hour good to have you with. US i like the,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: rainy rainy element from yesterday and. TODAY i really like.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: It had liked all the sunshine over. THAT i.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Love that's what we need, Though that's why this place
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: is so. Perfect, right you get like three four days
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: of sun.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: And then you get a good, rain everything feels.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Cool exactly that exact.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Thing last that's my frustration when we get into the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: long stretches of. Heat i'm, like, NO i just want
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: one day of. Rain that's ALL i, want even if it's,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: overnight clean everything. OUT i want to wake up and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: smell the.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Rain. Yeah and then.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Great Pacific northwest late spring.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Weekend it was, perfect.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Perfect and on a holiday weekend. TOO i mean we
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: really did luck.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Out, yeah it's. Fantastic i've really enjoyed the weather as of.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Late really enjoy.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: You.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Washington keep it, up you're doing a great. Job good.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Work slap on the, Ass, washington, yep tussle of the.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Hair good, game good job right, here good game by you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Too, yeah way to be out. Mountain.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Right, well good morning to. You it's our eight o'clock
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: hour here on This, Tuesday and of course we've had
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: a major topic. Again piggyback two took place last night
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: and people are melting down despite the wonderful results of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: it from, yesterday which we'll get into in a. Moment
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: But i've teased this a couple of times time to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: pay off the, teas as we do in this. Industry
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: so The a's have made a move. Here AND i
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: just saw this a little bit. AGO i don't know
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: how it slipped through the cracks AS i was doing
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: my search here this, morning But Jeff passing apparently reported
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: on this hours. Ago but The a's are calling up
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: one of their top prospects. Today Gauge jump is his.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Name that's a, name really strange. Name he is a, pitcher,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: okay and as you might, expect he is left. Handed,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Ah so what does this tell? You The mariners are
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: so non threatening against left handed. Pitchers have you noticed
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: other teams are rearranging their starting, Rotation, yeah to put
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: left handers. In The White sox did, it and now
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: The a's in the middle of the series are calling
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: up their top. Prospect it's not a. Coincidence this is
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: not today's the day That gauge is. Ready this Is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: we're in a division, race AND i know it looks
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: kind of like an ugly division. Race that's the team to.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Beat they just scored nine runs against us last, night
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: against our right. Hander why aren't we using their kryptonite
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: and our kryptonite right now is throw a left, hander
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: any left. Hander. Yep Gates jump has not pitched for six,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: days so he can pitch. Tonight AND i don't think
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: they'll Bump Luis severino out of the starting, rotation but they.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Might and they've Got Jeffrey springs going. TOMORROW i, mean
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: we have such an issue with hitting left handers right,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: now and we are so married To Ref snider And
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: joe and company right. Now Not joe, anymore but we're
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: so married To Ref schneider and our right handed hitting. Lineup,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: now we roll it, Out we roll it, out and,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: LOOK i, understand you know it's fifty five, games so
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: it's still the still got over one hundred games to.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Go that qualifies as early And resneider might hit his
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: way out of. This history says that he. Will recent
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: history says that he. Will but right, now every team
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: that we face knows what to throw at, us. Yep
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: and SO i don't know If Gage jump is starting
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: tonight or going to be a quick hook On severino
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: tonight if we look like we're going to get to,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Him but they're bringing up a left hander who can
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: throw a lot of innings against us to team With
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey springs who will be pitching tomorrow in the, series
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: who's also left. Handed so these teams are adjusting what they.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Do they are rushing guys to the major leagues in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: order to put left handers against The mariners in their.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Series and it's.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: A, PROBLEM a big, ONE a big, ONE i, Mean and,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: honestly it's pathetic on our part because these teams are
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: looking these pitchers are looking like all stars when we play,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: them and nobody, should none of them should, be and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: so it just makes us look. Weak it makes us look,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: inept and we are a better team than, that but
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: we are not showing.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: It AND i think the guys that aren't, HITTING i mean,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: again the history says recent history that they, will but they're.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Not and even our guys that are right handed can't
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: hit lefties, Apparently and so WHAT i meant by this
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: move should be the last indication that we. Need LIKE i,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: know we're ways away from the trading, deadline But Memorial
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: day weekend is usually when we gauge what are. You
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: that's the first time that we can officially say we've
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: got enough of a sample. Size now what are? You
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: are you a contender or are you? Not we have
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: not played like a contender on. PAPER i believe we.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Are most listening believe that we. Are and yet because
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: The American league has been so wonky this, year even
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: the standing say that we are a, contender doesn't matter
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: that the record is three games under five, hundred half
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: a game out of the wild card game and a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: half out of The division, league even with that bad,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: record even with that bad. Baseball so that makes us a.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Contender so we are a. Contender AND i know the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: trading deadline is a little bit of ways, away but
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: you know, ME i never mind in early. Trade and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: we need a right handed everyday, player whether that's at third,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: base right, field OR. Dh we need that guy before
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: the trading deadline because we have gone fifty five games
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: failing at hitting left handed. Pitching yes we, have and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: we're not going to Be it's. Unacceptable and, YOU i,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: MEAN i do think that it will get. BETTER i
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: think that it's going to. Improve it has to, improve
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: but how much. BETTER i, mean it's got to get
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: a lot better before teams late in the season do change,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: things alter things. Around everybody we're playing is altering their
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: pitching staff so that they can throw left handers at.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Us so until we can prove, it you, know we're
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be facing this every damn. Series we're gonna face
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: teams calling up their best left handed prospect to face,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: us because the word's.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Out and if you, are you, know in this day and,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: age with an athlete looking for a chip on their,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: shoulder there's your. Chip they're laughing at, you basically, saying,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: well they can't hit, lefties so anyone will do. WELL
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: i get the bartender you know at the local astecha
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: to come over and throw some pitches because he's a.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Lefty, well and another, thing do not Put refsneider clean up?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: AGAIN i. DON'T i don't even get. That, No, like
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: you realize that he's having trouble mentally right, Right so
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: when you you think you're giving up a boost of,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: confidence you're not putting him lead off or. Fourth, no
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: he needs to hit ninth so he doesn't feel, like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: oh my, Gosh i'm hitting. Fours i've got to come through,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: now why are you doing? That, no if you need
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: him in the lineup because you have, faith we haven't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: had a long enough sample, size, okay, okay but we're
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: not putting him lead off or, fourth not until he
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: proves he can hit a little. Bit so end of.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Story, right good, Talk, Dan, yeah thanks for. Listening good, Talk,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: jerry don't screw up. Again glad we could be a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: part of this.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Plan all, right let's talk about the piggyback last night
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: it was on display. Again, okay let's recap what happened
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: In piggyback. One, okay we all know we talked about
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: it for weeks before anything was. Attempted The mariners are
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: going to, have at some point When Bryce miller is,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: healthy too many starters for too few rotation. Spots we're
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: gonna have six guys for five. Spots weeks we. Discussed
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: there's not an easy solution to. This it's a good
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: problem to. Have i'd much rather have too many starting
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: pitchers than not. Enough, right we can all agree on, that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Yep but we talk about. Weeks there's not an easy
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: solution for. THIS i, mean every different expert we brought
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: on the airwaves said something. Different Bill krueger just wanted
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: to Put Bryce miller in the. BULLPEN i think that
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: would have been a, Mistake, bill Because Bryce miller is
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: one of our three best. Pitchers Ryan healy wanted us
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: to go six man. Rotation maybe that's would have avoided
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: some of, this some of this consternation that we're dealing
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: with right, now but that would have required getting everyone
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: out of their. Rhythm and even Though Pete woodworth, said
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about that if we went
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: six man. Rotation these guys are. Professionals they will pitch
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: when they're handed the, ball and they will work their
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: ass off for their. Teammates oh but they can throw
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: a fit when they're taken out of a, game because
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: that's what's happened to piggybacks in a row that the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher. HAS i don't Think bryce threw a, fit
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: but he was clearly angry In game number, one cause
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: still threw a fit last. Night So i'm not so
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: SURE i can buy That. Pete AND i Love, pete
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: you KNOW i Love. Pete i'm not sure THAT i
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: can buy that that they're good no matter, what because
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: they're clearly not good no matter.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: What they're not good in this. Situation they're not good
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: with being. Pulled.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: No and so a six man rotation that satisfies one.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Thing everybody gets to, start which is what they want to.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Do but that means, you guys got to be more.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Effective you've got to be more efficient than what you've.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Been we've had too many guys that are barely getting
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: through the Fifth, yeah and if you're going to be down,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: a not only do you have to get through the,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: six we probably need you to get through seven because
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: now you've got an extra day rest in. Between so
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: we need you to be better than what you've. Been
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: and we're going to go to a six man, rotation
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: and that is also keeping some of our best guys
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: from being able to go every fifth, day which is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: another thing we want to avoid to. Do so we're
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: gonna need you to be. Better and the truth of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: the matter, is since the piggyback came into our, lives
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: guess who's been Better Luis castile, yep the only problem
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: in the entire. Group everybody else has been. Fine logan's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: been better before in the, past And george has had
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: a couple of rough outings here as of, late And
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: woo's not been as good as he was a year.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Ago but they've been.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Serviceable they've been better than, serviceable better than.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Serviceable we've had very good, pitching maybe not, great But
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: we've had very good starting pitching and relief pitching so
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: far this.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Season, yeah we've just been spoiled in the, past and so.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: The only one that wasn't coming through Was Luis. Castile.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Yep but what has happened and there's two piggyback. Performances
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's the increased. COMPETITION i don't know
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: if it's him thinking he's singing for his supper or you,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: know fighting for his rotation. Spot but he's been, sharper
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: sure has using him in shorter spurts, him throwing, harder
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: letting it all. Rip he's been better the last two,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: starts And bryce has been excellent in both of these
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: two piggyback. Performances so for everybody that went too far
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: and saying what a disaster the piggyback was the first time,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: AROUND i think you don't want a. Backpedal you've already
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: gone too far with your opinion about the, piggyback and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: then when it does work successfully last, night you can't
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: say anything good about. It you got to trash it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Because Luis castillo's throwing things around in the.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Dugout, yeah you cannot like, it that's.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah you cannot like, it but you have to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: recognize the merits of what happened last.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Night, WELL i don't think the first time was all
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: that much of a. Disaster the way they handled the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: ninth it ended disaster pri. Sleet but until that time
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: we Got Bryce miller's best performance of the year and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: two and a third innings of shutout ball From Luis,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: castillo and he shouldn't have been pitching the, ninth, right
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: we can all agree on. That last night we got
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: exactly how they dialed it. Up four out of one,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: guy five out of the, other bullpen rested most of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: the game working with a, shutout probably would have had
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: a shutout If bryce didn't have a seven run lead
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: that he was working with and didn't have to worry
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: about being as. Fine you certainly don't want to walk
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: guys in that. Situation you just pitched, Differently and so
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: we've Had miller And, castillo even though obviously neither guy likes,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: this the truth of the matter is they pitched seventeen
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: innings and have allowed four. Runs that is a two
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: point one two. Era that's better than either of them
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: were pitching without the.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Piggyback so that Would i'd consider that.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Good it's not, bad, right you. Know and so you
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: got through a night with just the two of, them
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: you won, easily and you rested the bullpen for an entire,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Day and that is part of this. Equation what if
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: we could, take since we have one too many, starters
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: we can split the workload cover nine. Innings what an
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: advantage that might give us if we could give our
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: bullpen a night off every other, turn through every turn
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: through the. Rotation that's part of the strategy that is
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: being implemented right. Now, Okay and SO i mean for
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: people to be carrying, on what a disaster AND i
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: never want to see it, again and everything else, Again
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: ashley AND i don't like. IT i think the better
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: solution would have been to go To Luis castillo and,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Said i'm, sorry we got to go with our best
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: five guys and you just haven't been one of them this.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Year so we're gonna put you in the, bullpen and
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: we think you could be dynamite in that. Role and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: we'll start as long, relief but we'll eventually work you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: into short, relief maybe into some really high leverage. Situations,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: hell we think you might be able to Be John
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: smoltz at the end of his career and be An
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: All star closer next. Season. Potentially, sure that's the direction
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: that we're going to. Head and if we have an
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: injury and you're not too far removed from pitching length with,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: length we'll slide you back into the starting rotation first.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Thing that's a no brainer for. Us so that's WHAT
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: i would have done IF i were The, mariners but
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: they decided to go with this piggyback. Idea it's an.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Experiment the first experiment went well and then it blew
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: up at the, end so we make. Adjustments we had
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: make adjustments to the, formula to the, hypothesis to the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: equation so that the next time we run it it goes. Smoother,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: well it certainly went smoother. Now that was buoyed by
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: the fact that you'd scored six runs in the third,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: inning and it made it. Easy but that was ideal
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: four and. Five the only mess, misstep and the entire
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: thing Was Luis castillo didn't get his win because he
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: thought he should have at least been able to pitch the.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Fifth that would have been the only THING i would
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: have done differently last night than what The mariners did
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: and it was. Successful SO i don't. Know everybody wants
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: to heck like this thing has been a. Disaster two
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: point one two era out of the two guys that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: seemed to be unhappy about, It and we won one
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: game and saved our entire bullpen last night for the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: rest of the, week and should have won the other
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: game had we just fought ahead to hey one run.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Games we changed the rules on the piggyback plan one run.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Game we need to count on our closer who's used
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: to closing out one run games and not giving him
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: traffic to. Inherit and then he's got to work out
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: of a jam when he typically works into a jam
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: before he works out on a, jam.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Right so let him jam himself and unjam. Himself.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Right if he jams, himself he'll unjam, himself but he
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: might not be able to unjam your.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Jam, Right, Okay, YEAH i can't get to Jammy.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: SO i don't. KNOW i, mean it just seems like
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: outrage again last night Throughout Mariner. World AND i don't know,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: why because last night is how the piggyback theory, works
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: and it worked last.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Night it worked exactly how you would plan it.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Out and, yes the only things that we there's a, theme,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: right you take away the ninth inning And piggyback, one
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: there is a.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Theme Bryce miller shouldn't have come out as early as he.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Did Luis castillo shouldn't have come out as early as he.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Did that's. It and then, yeah and that's.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: It and well Also MUNIOS i think should have.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: Started the next, right, yes by saying take out the ninth,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: inning because that's where all the problems.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Happening Yet piggyback, one BUT i, think you, know Using.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Ferrara as the bridge in game one worked, right it,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Worked and so there's.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: That Even munos did not pitch. BADLY i mean it
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: all kind of. Worked hydro got a.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Single, yeah it's the. Offense we didn't put up any.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: Numbers and then, that, yeah, exactly and then yesterday you,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: LOOK i have no problem With castillo going back out
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Fifth he was playing very. Well he's got a nice.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: Cushion if some massive blow up, happens, okay you bring
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: For errand because he could pitch again. Today but is
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: a Blow do we Think castillo was going to go
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: in and give up seven runs in the fifth?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: INNING i do not think he was going.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: To and SO i just think we're being a little too,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: conservative trying to follow some plan. Agreed and if we
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: could just adjust THAT i. GET i don't think this
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: is a permanent. THING i don't want it to be
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: a permanent, thing BUT i want it to work while
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: we're doing, it AND i think it. IS i, mean
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: we tried the six man rotation one time through clearly
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: they did not like, that or they would have tried it, again,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: Right and then they went to. This they saw some
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: of the merits from game, one minus the ninth inning
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: and the. Offense they go to game two and it. Worked,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: Okay so let's just take it for what it. Is
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: stop trying to will it away because you don't like.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: It it's not. Permanent just be.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Patient oh it's. Not certainly not been, Disastrous, no and
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: actually it might have been for the most part. Effective
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: if we can just adjust how we approach certain, things that's.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: It how not have a set idea of how long
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: the starter should go one and. Two if it's a tight,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: game let's count on the guys that deals with that tight,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: game yes late and become let them do their. Job that's.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: It otherwise it's worked. Well both pitchers have pitched really.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Well why they're, ANGRY i don't. KNOW i don't know
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: if they've been communicated with well. Enough they both seem
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: to be caught off guard by being taken out of the.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Game how AND i understand it's. Uncomfortable we knew what
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: you were going to. Do how Did bryce And luise
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: not know what you were going to?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Do, YEAH i think they thought If i'm pitching, well
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: they'll keep me in. Longer and it is. UNCOMFORTABLE i
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: understand it's.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Uncomfortable it's uncomfortable for us to, watch, Right it's not
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: a comfortable. Thing but just take it for what it
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: is in this moment and let the process play.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Out, well we are two of the. Exceptions most people
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: just cannot take. It they can't handle. It even the
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: a's color analyst last, Night Dallas braden was up at
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: arms about why The mariners are piggybacking But.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 8: Bryce miller continuing to warm, up and whether or not
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: he is warming up knowing he's coming into the game or.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Warming up, knowing, Hey i'm gonna have some.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Time but you see him with every pitch start to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: look in and he's tracking the advat and the fact
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: That frere has sat down.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: Completely and they tell, You i'm not SURE i and,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: yeah and you just See Dan wilson SAY i. Understand,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 8: yeah that right, There i'm gonna tell you right now
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: is a conversation Where Luiska steele not happy at all
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: about the.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Decision so we're gonna be happy about that?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Decision three up a three down with a couple of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: strikeouts For Jack. Cookin, yeah, well he had seen. That
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: he'd also gone as Far Dallas braden and his commentary
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: saying that this has to be about, winning And i'm, like,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: yes and that's all it needs to be. About and
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: so if that's the, case then why should We even
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: if if you're going to make that, statement you're going
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: to make it bold and you're going to criticize The
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: mariners because they're not making it about, winning then why
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: are we worried About Luis castillo's? Feelings why does he
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: need a? Win why does he need the? Win and
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: this is about.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Winning this is about team team, winning, right not individual.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Wins why does he need a win in a category
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: that really doesn't have much value anymore to most of
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: the baseball. World why why is it so insulting to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: be taken out of the game when you know what
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: was going to happen before the game even. Started so, look,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: fine it's about, winning then everybody needs to be on
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: board with. That The mariners aren't doing this for any
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: other reason than long term. Success they don't Want Luis
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: castillo to get. SHORT i think you just go ahead
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: and rip the band aid off of that and make
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: him a, reliever BECAUSE i think he looks better in
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: short spurts than he does over long. Hauls but obviously
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: they're worried about how he's going to handle it based
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: off of what we saw last. Night they have every
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: reason to be worried about how he's going to handle.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: It, yeah, sure seems like that's a big.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: CONCERN i Think bryce is one of our three best starting.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Pitchers he should not be involved in this piggyback. Thing
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: that's my Personal, YEAH i see. That, Yeah so, again
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: the idea is to keep them both long in case
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: you need one of them to be a starting pitcher
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: down the. Road and, yeah you could go to a
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: six man row, rotation but nobody seemed to be happy
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: with that. Either and now we're worried About Luis castillo's.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Feelings apparently that's the thing from last. Night should have
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: given him the, Win AND i, agree should have given
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: him the, win, right you, know got to respect your
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: veteran more than. That should have let him pitch the. Fifth,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'm with, you But i'm not going to defend
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: the tantrum that he threw in the. Dugout i'm not
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: even going to Defend bryce two games in a row
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: pissing in the cheerios after the game is over, with
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: because because it actually did kind of accomplish what you
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: set out to, accomplish with the exception of blowing the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: ninth inning. Game and so if this is about the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: long term success of this, team then why then are
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: we using as a. Defense it's not fair to those.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Guys they deserve better than.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: That, well and if we were saying don't do it
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: because it'll hurt their, feelings everybody else would be up
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: in arms, saying why do we care about their? Feelings
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: we need to win to it if it's the best.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Option so it's it's a lose lose. Situation, honestly it
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: seems like as far as but not getting people.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Angry But i'm going to go back to the.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Beginning did we not have four weeks of conversation about
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: the coming of this? Day sure, did and this there's
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: not an easy solution to, it And i'm not sure
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do with. It you, know we
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: can give our opinions on what they think that they should,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: do and we can say that's not the right. Decision
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: i'm saying it's not the right. DECISION i think THAT
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: i would have just Put castillo in the bullpen and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: started his career as a relief. PITCHER i think that's
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: WHAT i would have. Done that would have Been that
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: would have been my solution to all of. This and,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: yet obviously that wasn't going to be easy, either because
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: if he didn't like getting taken out after four shutout
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: innings last night when he was told what was going
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: to happen before the game, started how do you think
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: he's going to react to being made a bullpen guy
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: at twenty three million dollars per year for the next
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: year and a half of his. Career, yeah so we
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: knew there was no easy solution to. This even though
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: it's a good problem to, have this has not been
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: the disaster that people are making it out to. Be
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: it sure seems hasn't.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Been it sure seems like we're looking for a bigger.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: Problem like you can be angry that it's kind of
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: a non, decision right they because they haven't decided to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: put one player in the.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Bullpen so it's in that case a non.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Decision you're keeping them, both using them, both and you,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: know kind of keeping all your cards close while you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: wait to see how it all plays. Out so in that, sense,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: yes it is a non, decision but it's also allowing
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: them some time to figure out the best option and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: make sure that if something happens to somebody, else we're
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: not now having to backtrack to find someone to come
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: in as the fifth, starter which.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Would Be Kat. Anderson, yeah, yeah in that, case all, Right,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: well coming up, next it's a new. Feature we tested
• 1:27:50
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• 1:27:51
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• 1:27:55
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• 1:27:58
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• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: i've been toying around with an idea of you know
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: what we Do mariners morning after at six thirty every
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: day after A mariner's, game but not everybody gets up
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: and here's that and a lot of people just kind
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: of want to know what happened with The mariners game
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: when they do wake, up whether that's at, eight eight,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: thirty whatever the case may. Be, well we obviously can't
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: do a recap every segment all show, long BUT i
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: have been thinking a lot about do we do a
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: second one during the course of the, Show And i've
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: arrived at, YES i think that we should do a
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: second one during the course of our summer. Shows, anyway
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: during summer, SEASON i like. It outside of football, season,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: yeah we got a little. Time, yeah and also have
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a different. Format, well there are
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: different Fun Mariner's Morning after for those that don't, know
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: it's a, highlight a, SoundBite and a preview of what's to.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: Night it's a postgame, show is what it. Is we
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: just do it the morning after at six, thirty where
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: The Baseball brunch can be a recap of last night's.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Game and, yeah we can just lean on all of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: the wisdom That Johnny bench And Tommy lasorda taught us years.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Ago it's about time we put it to good.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Use So welcome into the baseball. Brunch we got a
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: hunch you'll love the baseball. Brunch last, night The mariners
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: were taken on The a's In. Sacramento it was The
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Piggyback Game piggyback two Electric bugaloo now available at, theaters
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: and it Was Luis castillo Now Bryce miller getting the.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Start this Time Bryce miller would pitch the back. End but,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: boy some offense would help to make this thing go
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: a lot, smoother and that. Happened in the third inning
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: double play routine was botched by The. A's it would
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: have gotten them out of the, inning and instead The
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: mariners just started piling. On taking advantage of the. Mistake
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: they went from possibly being goose egged for the inning
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: to scoring six. Times Randy Rose arena had a, Double
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Luke rayley had a home, run Dom canzone had a home.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: RUN i, mean it was just a a fest offensive
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: feast for The, mariners who jumped out to a six
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: to nothing lead and then rode their two pitchers to
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: a nine to two. Win but on the offensive side
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: of the, Thing randy Or Rose arena is just on.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Fire come up.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: With an appropriate.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Trophy this is really punched back at deep. Pain randy
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: a home. Run what a night for The. Mariners that's
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: A MARINERS tv with the highlight he got a hold
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: of that. One Randy Rose arena is just. Real, WELL
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: i mean he's he's playing his worst defense and that
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: is not a high, bar, no but he is definitely
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: having his best offensive season of his career at this.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Point he has been exceptional for this baseball team so
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: far this. Season he had three more hits last, night
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: including a home. Run i'd, ARGUE i, mean we haven't
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: even started voting for The All Star game, yet But
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: i'd argue that he's one of your three favorites to. Start.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Now you, know he won't be a favorite to. Start
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: he's not going to get named to the starting. Lineup
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: julio has a better chance Than, randy just more. Celebrity
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: But i'm talking about in terms of who you should vote.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: FOR i, mean you probably should vote For Judge trout And.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Randy that's probably your three best players so far this
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: season in The American league playing the outfield right, now
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: he's been that.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Good, WELL i mean it's the opposite of what we
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: talked about WITH jp. Earlier, Right, yes defense isn't, great
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: but his offense is you know you you can't not
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: have that in your. Lineup it make more than makes
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: up for his sometimes crappy, defense whereas WITH, jp you're
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: getting bad defense and not a lot of. Offense so
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: it's that's where the struggle. Comes at least With, Randy he's, like,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: OKAY i understand the. Defense probably my weakness. Here you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: go all out a couple hits per.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Game, YEAH i MEAN i would like to. SEE i
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: think you could do. BOTH i think you could focus
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: while your playing. Defense and because his focus offensively has
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: been just something to marvel locked, in he has changed
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: his entire approach this. Offseason he is committed to hitting
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: the other way and then beat. One now that he's
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: proven you can't get me out pitching me away. Anymore
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: now pitchers are going to try to sneak something in
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: like you saw last. Night and he's, like, oh now
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: you're throwing to my, strength. RIGHT i set you up
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i learned to hit the other way for a
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: high average and on, base but my power still resides
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: on the inside of the. Plate so if you want
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: to come and try to beat, me go. Ahead i've
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: been wanting you to do that my whole.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Day it's like baseball, version the baseball version Of sicilian.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: TRICKERY i, mean, yeah he knows what.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: You're, going which the glasses didn't three me fwitch the,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: glass BUT i twitched the glass.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Off that's What randy's.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Doing uh two ninety nine batting, average three to ninety
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: on base eight sixty seven, ops two and a half
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: war so far this. Season he's been fantastic for this.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Team so The Baseball brunch today Starring randy A Rose
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: arena but Featuring Brad adam From MARINER'S tv And Bryce,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: miller one of the pitchers in The piggyback last. Night
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: And brad never gets to interview starting. Pitchers they're all
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: already showered and like on their way. Home so he
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: never has a starting pitcher walk off the mound and
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: then get caught in his you, know in his. Trance
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: but he got the opportunity last night because of the picky.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Back and so here Is Brad adam With Bryce miller
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: after the. Game all, right, here this is something. Great
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: when the pigback situation. Works we get to talk to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: the second starting. Pitcher we don't off to get to
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: talk to a. Starter you don't often get to dance
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: with the infielders after the. Game how was that and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: how would you kind of rate your performance out? THERE
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: i did pretty.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: GOOD i THINK i messed up one of the, steps
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: but we got some practice last, year the whole team
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: did it and when we went to the. Postseason SO
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: i done it. Once Now i've done it, twice so
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: maybe next Time i'll be ready to.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: Go you've also done this piggaback situation, Twice As julio, says,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: hello my, Friend.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Castillo going the first, four you going the second.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: Five it was just kind of the best case, scenario
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 7: the two of you carrying and covering this whole.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: Game, YEAH i think if we're gonna do, it ideally
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: we don't touch the. Bullpen we give them a day
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: off and it, helps you, know when we score what nine,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: runs so not.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Bad anytime we scored nine, runs we got a good.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Chance it's uh.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 6: When the winds howling, OUT i, mean we can get
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: the ball in.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: There so that definitely. Helped four home runs certainly help as.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: Well my, Friend what was it like for you in the,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: Communication like for you warming up coming out to pen
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: for the first, time in the regular.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: Season, UH i had a feeling i'd have the fifth,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: inning SO i was, inside came out and.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Threw it's kind of.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: Weird, uh definitely not my my normal.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Routine but.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: You gotta gotta deal the deal the card you're dealt
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: AND i came out and uh just let it writ
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: whenever they told me, to AND i got got to.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Save so that's.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 7: Cool maybe the win as, well because we was going
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: For so you've done the starter, first now the second
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: guy the second. Time so is it getting MORE i
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 7: guess comfortable now that you've done both.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Situations this this setup's not not very.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: Comfortable but LIKE i, SAID i mean at the end
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: of the, DAY i get to come out and pitch
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: in the big leagues and something that That i've dreamed
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: about my whole.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: Life so.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: WOULD i rather start the? Game, Yeah but ANYTIME i
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: can be on the mound in the big, Leagues, Uh
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: i'll be be grateful for.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 7: It so and helped the team win and get to
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 7: dance and get to talk to us a postgame walk off.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: Interview first time you like? It, yeah it's, cool it's.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Cool it's a little Bit. Bryce we appreciate the. Time thank,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: you my, friends the Real Brad adam last, night not an.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: Impostor that's.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i hate that was Impostor Brad.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Adams you gotta watch, out will you?
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 7: Up?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Well that was On MARINERS tv last, night so we
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: played the entire thing for. You Ian furnessa called that
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: elite postgame interview work last night and a, tweet AND
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: i agree that was exceptional by our Friend bradley because number,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: ONE i think The bryce being able to do the little.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Dance And bryce is such a great. GUY i Know
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: i've said that he's been a little pissy about this,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: thing but he's. AWESOME i, mean what a great dude
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: That bryce. Is but part of him being a great
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: day dude is that he's going to answer questions, honestly
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: and it hasn't been given time to think about. It you,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Know that's what the on field reporter is. For you
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: want to catch them in their rawest of emotions coming
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: off of the. Field so they couldn't have gotten with
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: A pr person right or had time to think about
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: what they wanted to say when they met with the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: media during the press, conference and he got three genuine
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: answers out of him about this piggyback, thing which has
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: obviously been a huge talking, point AND i thought that
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: he GOT i, mean Obviously bryce does not like, it
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: but Also bryce has performed in, it performed really, well
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: and you can tell he's going to do what's best
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: for the team even if he doesn't like. It and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: SO i agree With. IAN i thought that was excellent
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: By brad last. Night AND i love the ian ad
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: on his tweet where he's, like there was no how
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: you're feeling or talk about the STEF i it's so
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: sick of you, know on field reporters asking questions that
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: way and not just direct questions with a smile on your.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Face doesn't have to be, harsh doesn't have to be,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: cruel you don't have to be. Nasty brad got the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: answers we wanted From bryce last, night and all he
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: was was, direct, yep and. Positive.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah And bryce wasn't you, know angry in his. Answers
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: he was just matter of fact and gave his honest
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: thoughts on. It AND i think we all appreciate.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: That all. Right, well The Baseball brunch it always we
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: always have stars on, it and we always have featured
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: guests on. It so we Had Randy Rose arena highlight
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: And Brad adam And Bryce miller our featured, guests good.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Supporting cast here, today and.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Then we always close it out with what did we
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: learn today? Kids during The Baseball? BRUNCH i would say
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: we learned that the piggyback hasn't been as disastrous as
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: what a lot of you are carrying on.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: About, yeah what a LOT a lot of you seem
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: to either think or want it to.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Be number, two we learned That Randy Rose, arena despite struggling,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: defensively as having the best offensive season of his. Career
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: and number, three we also learned that when you score,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: runs it's easier to.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Win that's the most important lesson.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Kids SO i hope you've enjoyed your time today on
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: The Baseball brunch and our thanks to special guest Features
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: randy Or Rose, Arena Bryce, miller And Brad.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: Adam what a, Day what a?
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Day what a day we had our kids all? Right
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: coming up, next don't Forget Ryan heay's gonna join us
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: at nine, o'clock but we'll talk Some western And Eastern
• 1:39:39
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  Speaker 2: point THREE. KJRFM i saw myself on video for the
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: first time doing my power washing through my teeth to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: get the chia seeds from my breakfast biscuit out is
• 1:40:07
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• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: supposed To i'm on video on this YouTube, Now but
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Now i'm seeing myself do, It i'm, LIKE i look
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: like a like a. Monkey it is starting to.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: Dip it isn't as secretive as it probably feels like
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: in the, moment like when you're doing, it you're, like,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: Oh i'm doing.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: This real under the.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: Radar yeah it's.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: Not and then it's. Obvious, YEAH i.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: Know it's, like oh, no he's.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: He's gonna stop doing.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: That, yeah making weird.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Face it's a handsome MAN i used to. BE i
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  Speaker 2: can't be making weird faces now on. TELEVISION i don't
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  Speaker 2: want me the rest of my, life rest of my.
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  Speaker 2: Dreams all, right good morning to, you nine o'clock hour
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: here on A. Tuesday, ope you had a great extended.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: Weekend and, man here we arrive on A. Tuesday it's Already.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Tuesday that means we already get the chance to talk
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: With Ryan, healey Former mariner and now part Of MARINER'S
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: tv and of course part of The chuck And Buck
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: show Every tuesday at nine. O'clock good morning to, you,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Sir good morning every. Bud it's nice to have the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: team back. Together, yeah how was your? Good how was your? Weekend? Good?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Good weekend was. Great.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah it was my daughter's birthday On. Saturday. Birthday we
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: had the most special the most special day. Ever SO
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: i felt like we fulfilled our parental obligations there and
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: uh made the magic happen and just right back to.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Work and how old did she turn this? Year?
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  Speaker 7: Four?
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: Four that's? Awesome what an AGE i? Got four to
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: two year? Old, now that's. Awesome that's, yeah thank you
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: for saying, That. Ashley it. Is and the about those
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: birthdays is, there they're still at that age where they
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: love everything that you do for. Them ten years from,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: now she'll hate the party you've thrown for. Her we
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: skipped the party this.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 9: Year we Went dizzyland our two weekends ago and then
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: we actually just went to like a water park.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Here we did a like a resort pass for the.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 9: Day she she's obsessed with, swimming are now going through swimming,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 9: lessons so we took her Swimming Lazy. River we had
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 9: a great day and made her some steak And french
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 9: fries for, dinner and she was living her.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Dream oh, MAN i want to. GO i want. Favor,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: yeah steak And french fries and going to The Lazy.
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  Speaker 2: RIVER i want The heales to adopt. Me will you
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: celebrate my fifty fifth with? Me will you take? Me,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'll Take i'll take a jog to the bar with,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: you and we won't measure how far we. Run all, right, good, good,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: good all. Right well let's dive into.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: This.
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  Speaker 2: Man ashley AND i might be the only two people
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: on Planet piggyback at this, point AND i don't prefer.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: It AND i get some of THE i would change
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: a couple of the things that they've, done but it
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: just doesn't feel like a disaster to me like it
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: does to so Many mariner fans out. There Uh, SO
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: i Guess i've primed you a little bit for asking
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: more of an open question about how are your what
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: are your? Feelings? Now two starts into The piggyback.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 9: Experiment, well the honest angle from a former's players perspective
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 9: is you have six really quality major league starters in
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 9: The mariners right, now and that is a luxury not
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: something that should be. Scrutinized we know that the, first you,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 9: know round of this didn't go. Well, obviously last night
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: went much better where they didn't have to touch the
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 9: bullpen at, all but there was still frustrations that showed.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: UP i know from the player's, perspective they're frustrated because
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 9: they're wired for one thing and one thing, only and
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: that's empty the tank and EVERYTHING i, have and it
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: seems like neither of them are able to do that
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 9: right now With miller And. Casillo SO i think it's
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 9: a luxury, overall The mariner's frustrations and the fans, Frustrations
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: AND i could be totally wrong with, this BUT i
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 9: think it's more of the inconsistency within the performance of
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: the team as a. Whole the roster that was crafted
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 9: to essentially be A World series team and have underperformed
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: in every facet of how you draw it up.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: Comparing it to A World series.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 9: Team SO i think frustration just gets spread to anything
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 9: that seems like it's taking the team further away from
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 9: that consistency everyone's.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Chasing, YEAH i absolutely agree with. THAT i, mean and
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: bad weekend In Kansas, city and then so even though
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: you get the nine two, victory you see a starting
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: pitcher kind OF i mean he was very, angry visibly,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: upset throwing equipment around and the dugout after be taken
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: out after four, innings and so maybe you adopt that
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: sort of frustration as. Well but in terms of a
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: solution to how are we going to handle six pitchers
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: for five? Spots we talked for weeks that there's not
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: an easy solution to, this and so you knew there
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: were going to be some problems and trying whatever you.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: TRIED i, MEAN i can't even imagine If luis is
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: going to react that way to being taken out after four,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: innings knowing beforehand what was going to, happen how he
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: would react to just being relegated to the, bullpen just
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: outright cast off the. ISLAND i can't even imagine how
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: he would react to. That so why the reaction to?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: It?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: Ryan when are they not being communicated well enough with
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: or is it JUST i thought you would change your
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: mind IF i was, Pitching, well what do you think
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: is the truth? There i'll touch on this.
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  Speaker 9: FIRST i don't think he would show the same emotion
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 9: if he was just all of a sudden you go
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 9: to the. Bullpen, now, Okay like if that was the
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 9: clear cut and dry, response if you are now the
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 9: long relief, man Meaning, casillo and that is your, role
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 9: fulfill it to the best your. ABILITY i don't know
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 9: if the emotions are as, visible but when you are
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 9: given the opportunity to start a, game which he has
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 9: done his entire very very successful, career and then he
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 9: goes out there and throws four shutout as you, know
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 9: six strikeouts and is, grooven you kind of hit that
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: flow state in the fourth fifth, inning that kind of
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: cruise you hopefully to the, sixth maybe even the, seventh
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  Speaker 9: and then they pulled the rugout underneath.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: You that's.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 9: Fsh he was at the sixty eight pitch, mark and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 9: we knew that they were trying to get both pitchers around.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Seventy and this is the math that math's out for The.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: Mariners but LIKE i said earlier in the, show like
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: you're trained for one, thing empty the, tank go out
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: there and pitch all.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Nine that's what he's preparing.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 9: For so when you're only given four and you do
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 9: the job to the best of your, ability when you
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 9: haven't had a great season quite, frankly but now you're
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 9: in one of those starts where you're, like this could
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: turn things around for, me and now you're, done you're.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 9: Mad i've been in that situation Where i've played all
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 9: eight innings at a position and they do a defensive
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: replacement of the ninth inning and you are. Frustrated it's
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 9: not okay to show the visible, frustration but there also
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 9: should be communication on clearly what is going to. Happen
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 9: AND i think what we are witnessing right now is
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 9: A mariner's coaching staff in front office that is trying
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 9: to make the best of the situation without having the perfect,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 9: answer which is, okay but there are repercussions and emotions
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 9: that come with. That AND i don't think it's coming
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 9: from an egotistical standpoint from the player's. Perspective it's coming
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 9: from the competitor's mindset of this is WHAT i want
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: to go. DO i want to go help this team,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 9: Win i'm, Competing i'm, successful let me, go and then
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 9: they take you out of the. Game and that's that's
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: really hard to swallow for someone that has the resume
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 9: That Luis Castillo happer. Has SO i understand.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: It, YEAH i wish they would have let him go,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: five give the veteran his qualified win and maybe that soothes.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Things is he feel better if he gets to go
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: the five and gets the win last night and then
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: you go on to win nine to two or nine to,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: one Because bryce is even, fresher you, know down the,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: stretch and nobody has a problem with the piggyback. Er
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: we gonna have just a problem with it no matter,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: what because it's, different and we don't don't we don't
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: exactly embrace different all that.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 9: Much, NO i don't think baseball embraces, different AND i
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 9: think pitchers especially have a hard time embracing different because
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 9: a starting pitcher is very used to a five day
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: rotation and each, day each, hour each minute has a
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 9: very specific task for. It even if that task is
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: like hanging out in the bullpen with the team like,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 9: that that could be their task for the, day but
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 9: they have the time available to process. It starts and
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 9: one of the things THAT i personally haven't loved is
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 9: how they're flip flopping them of which one, starts which
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: one you, know, follows which one does the.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: PIGGYBACK i feel like there could have been a little
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: more clarity on.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 9: Like, hey this is what you're gonna. Do this's what
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 9: you're gonna, do and let's give, this you, know four
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 9: weeks to see how it plays. Out but if they're
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 9: gonna continue flip, FLOPPING i think that provides or presents
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 9: more challenges for both of, them quite, frankly AND i
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: think we saw that From Bryce miller, yesterday who came
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 9: out and did the postgame interview and was excited you
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 9: got to do the dance of the infielders and celebrate the,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 9: win but also like the frustration of, yeah, Man i've
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 9: never done. That it was really weird playing catch and
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 9: getting loose in the. BULLPEN i wasn't able to do
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 9: my normal long. Toss like there's, frustration and you can
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 9: hear the. Pauses you know that he has the questions
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 9: of just like thinking.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: Of SHOULD i say? This SHOULD i say WHAT i
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: really feel right?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 9: Now and he was honest and vulnerable posts, actually AND
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 9: i appreciated it BECAUSE i don't want you to lie
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: and sugarcoat.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: This for.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 9: Me he always brought it back to the team in
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 9: winning matters more than, anything AND i know that's true
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 9: for this locker. Room BUT i also know that he's feeling,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: frustration and that's. Okay he's a human as.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Well so From Ryan heay's, perspective what is the solution
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: for next? Time do we piggyback? Three do we do
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: it one more time and maybe learn another lesson from
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: it and apply that to the next time. Around do
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: we go to the six man rotation because we just
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: don't want these starting pitchers being angry and. Upset or
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: do we make a, decision a hard decision to relegate
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: one to the bullpen going?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: FORWARD i don't think there's been enough to relegate one
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 9: to the. Bullpen quite, FRANKLY i feel like both piggybacks
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 9: have been successful from the pitching. Side what went, wrong
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 9: in my, opinion is that the plan can change based
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 9: off of what the game is showing you, amen AND
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 9: i do believe that there can be some slight alterations
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 9: to that Of, Hey, louis maybe you're not going to
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 9: pitch the ninth inning today because our offense only decide
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 9: to get one hit and score one run on a fielder's,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 9: choice and we're gonna we're gonna bring in our closer
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 9: here because this one nothing game matters a.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Lot And i'm not a. Manager i'm not a big league.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Manager that's a tough.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 9: Job but that was the first, piggyback and of course
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 9: that's the situation that they were thrown in as a coaching.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 9: Staff that's, tough AND i hope that that's a learning
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 9: lesson that they make adjustments moving. Forward BUT i have
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 9: seen the piggyback be successful in the two opportunities they've
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 9: had so far from the pitching, side and it's a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 9: lot easier to stomach this process when the offense does
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: what it does last night and scores a lot of
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: runs and gives the pitching staff and coaching staffs some breathing.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: Rooms so let's make sure the the challenge here OR
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: i don't even want to say the, blame but the you,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 9: know the workload is shared amongst the, roster not just
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 9: the two guys that are in uncomfortable situations right.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: Now, YEAH i agree with. YOU i agree with one hundred.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: PERCENT i Mean miller And castillo and these two games
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: two point one two, ERA i mean. Phenomenal, yeah. Exactly
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Ryan healy is with. Us he joins us Every. Tuesday
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: let's talk about that. Offense we got a lot of
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: ground to cover, here so let's get into the. Offense
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: obviously still not consistently. Humming they've been one hit far
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: too many times here as of, late and against. Lefties,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: RYAN i, mean it just seems night and day a
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: difference between the two lineups and their. Production so what?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Gives what's the problem?
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 9: Here i'd have to deep dive the, numbers but at
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 9: this POINT i don't even want to deep dive the
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 9: numbers BECAUSE i know what they look like against left handed.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 9: PITCHING i just think there's there's certain nuances to a
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: baseball season that can, linger and something that wasn't a
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 9: problem can all of a sudden be presented as a,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 9: problem and then all of a sudden the players feel
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 9: more pressure and think about the opportunities for the right
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 9: Handed i'm, sorry the left handed pitching lineup to go
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 9: face a left handed. Pitcher all the righty's that don't play,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 9: consistently it's really hard to have consistent. Timing major league
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 9: pitchers are, really really. Good all of these things are
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 9: just reasons and excuses to why they're not getting the job.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 9: Done but unfortunately major leagues is a place where you
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 9: got to get the job, done and they find someone
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 9: else that will that's got to get. Better there are
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 9: a lot of bright spots throughout. This it's just really
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 9: tough when all of a, sudden one through nine disappear
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 9: for a game and you get one, hit and you're
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: playing a team with The royals that play pretty sound
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 9: defense and don't give away free, outs and then you're
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 9: taking away or giving them free, outs meeting The mariners
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 9: on the, bases running into outs and. Situations we saw
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 9: that last night where when The athletics gave The mariners
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 9: a couple, outs gave them a couple free, bases all
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 9: of a, sudden that third inning blew up in a
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: couple of home runs put the.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: Game out of.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 9: Reach you felt that a little bit over the, weekend
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 9: especially On. SATURDAY i think it's just a compound. Effect
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 9: BUT i think there are some right handed bats that
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 9: are in the platoon role right now that aren't able
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: to get comfortable because they're not playing. Enough AND i
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: know they're trying to find ways to stay locked in
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 9: and get their timing down in the, cage but it's
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 9: just not the. Same there's nothing that can really replicate
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 9: what that picture's going to do to you on the
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: mound and when you're not getting opportunities, consistently you're really
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: stepping up their.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: Hope and at that, point, well they're obviously going to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: give them more, time but how much more time do
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: you give This it's going to be at least the first.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 9: Half And i've seen what fans are saying or asking
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: for from different moves and, such So i'm not a
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 9: loof to. IT i do think there's been commitments made
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 9: from the front office to this is our, roster and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 9: there's been a lot of roster change and turnover with
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 9: injuries that happened over the last four to six. Weeks
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 9: the last thing they want to do is ruffle. Feathers
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: at this, point it's Still may at the end Of,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 9: may BUT i really think this goes Through june at
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: the very, least and then they all sarp. Break that's
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 9: when decisions will start to get the crunch. Time the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 9: really nice thing for The mariners is that THE Al
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 9: west is pretty. Close they are playing the division leaders right.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 9: Now when they took game one of this, series they
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 9: could be flying back to seea On thursday this week
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 9: and Or wednesday this week and feeling pretty good about
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 9: where they stand and maybe some of those conversations can.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: Can die down a little, bit but we'll have to
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: wait and. See, man there's a lot to discuss WITH Jp.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: Crawford let me start. HERE i don't know how often
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: we've seen in major leagues just somebody kind of self
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: demote themselves in the middle of the. Year i'm a,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: shortstop BUT i think it's better for the team That
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: colt plays. SHORT i can move to. Third so just the,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: GESTURE i, mean some, people some cynics found a. Hollow
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: ashley AND i were touched by, it kind of moved by.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: It what was your reaction TO Jp crawford, saying give
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: the job To colt And i'll find another way to
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: contribute to this.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: Team that is the furthest thing from. Hollow that is
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 9: the most self aware and self list thing that you
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: can do as a major league, player to have the
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 9: big picture perspective of where you are at person in your.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 9: Career MEETING Jp, crawford where the organization is moving directionally
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 9: with the contract that was given To emerson or earned By,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 9: emerson and understanding when that transition could, happen whether it's right,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 9: now next, year end of this. Year he has no
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 9: idea And the only thing that he wants to, say
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 9: AND i Heard Colt emerson talking about, this is the
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 9: veterans in this clubhouse have done such a good job
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 9: of making, ME i Mean Cold, emerson feel comfortable, here
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: LIKE i belong regardless of the, contract because they know
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 9: THAT i can. Contribute he didn't say that, exactly but
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 9: that's the. Reason if This mariner's team is going to
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: go where they want to, go they have to have
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 9: the rookies feel comfortable enough to compete and be.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Themselves this is not.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 9: Hollow this IS jp having self awareness SAYING i might
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 9: not be the best shortstop available to our team any.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 9: Longer and if that's the, case then how CAN i
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 9: still add? Value because he's an on base, machine hit
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: a home run last, night has productive and quality.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: Bats is a clutch hitter for this.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 9: Team but if he's not the guy, anymore and Maybe
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 9: colt can, be he's willing to take that side step
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 9: to third base if it helps the team win.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: More is WHAT i heard from. IT i don't see
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: an arm that can make a throw from short. CONSISTENTLY
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: i don't see an arm that can make us throw
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: from third either. Consistently you've played the hot. Corner you
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: know how many times that you've been demanded of making
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: that long throw without much time across the. Enfield do you,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: THINK i, mean does he just look hurt to, you
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i mean he is consistently now just throwing balls
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: into the.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 9: River, well first, off these none of these guys are
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 9: playing one hundred percent. HEALTHY i KNOW jp has got
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 9: a couple hit by pitches off of that right arm
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 9: and him being a left handed hit or that right
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 9: arm is. Leading and no matter how many pads you
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: have on that throwing, arm, like you can still find
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 9: some soft spots and THERE i think he's gotten smoked
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 9: in the tricep a little. BIT i think he got,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 9: one and like the lower lat and all of those
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: muscles are contributing to. THROWING i THINK jp always contributed
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 9: his arm strength to his footwork through the. Baseball that's
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 9: hard to do a third base with just how quickly
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 9: the ball gets on. You but it doesn't mean you
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 9: can't do. IT i know we've probably seen Some Brendan
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 9: donovan struggles at third base this year because of the
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: lack of arm strength and the ability to have a
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 9: rifle Like Matt chapman where you can sit back on
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 9: a ball and then just let one. RIP i remember
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 9: watching him do that for a lot of, years and
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 9: it was really frustrating BECAUSE i didn't have that arm.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 9: Either BUT i know THAT i know that he would
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 9: be serviceable over. There but there are definitely some certain
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 9: plays going to his backhand side towards the, line and
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 9: if he ends up taking that negative, route be. Tough
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 9: BUT i don't Remember Kyle seger having an absolute cannon over.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 9: There he was just really good at moving through the
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 9: baseball and his transfer was super. Clean and also he
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 9: was just beyond accurate with his throws thrown fro multiple arm.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 9: Angles so it's.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Doable are they.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 9: Willing to experiment with that in the middle of a
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 9: major league season when they're already under five HUNDRED i don't, know,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah AND i think that's probably the biggest question mark right.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 9: Now and the reason why we haven't seen it executed
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 9: yet is because they're on certain right.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Now as. Well that you've been around the, team you've
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: obviously been in a, Clubhouse you've probably experienced a little
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: bit of a different. Climb probably you've probably experienced a
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: thousand different climates inside a baseball clubhouse in your. Career
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: what do you think what is your impression of what
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: the climate? Is obviously an underachieving baseball, team but still
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: one hundred over one hundred games. Remaining you've got some
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: roster changes that are happening in front of. Everyone you've
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: got this weird piggyback thing that's happened that no one's
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: ever experienced. Before you've got Cal rawley still on the
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: injury list at this. Stage how do you and then
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: your fans coming at you left and right with criticism
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: because you are undoubtedly performing worse than what you expected
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: and you're playing really sloppy defense right now. Too, Ryan
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: so where do you think that the clubhouse is right
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: now in handling all of these?
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 9: Elements, man a lot of barriers going, up is my,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 9: guess and based off of being in that clubhouse briefly
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: in the spring of twenty twenty, five there were some
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 9: comments that we had in the media From Justin turner
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 9: that was scrutinizing The mariner's front office for not, making you,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 9: know more free agent. Acquisitions AND i remember walking the
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 9: clubhouse and everyone was just very, Guarded AND i understand,
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 9: why because when you have a lot of opinions from
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 9: the outside that are coming through it can fog your
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 9: brain up a little. Bit and quite, frankly what we're
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 9: seeing frustration wise From miller And, castillos because there's a
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 9: one track. Mind my jobs go out there and compete
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 9: and throw nine innings and help my team. Win same
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 9: thing forever of the player in that, team whatever their
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 9: individual jobs, are how DO i go execute that. Today
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 9: the more opinions that get in the way of, that
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 9: the harder it is to become. Consistent so whether some
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 9: of these voices are penetrating that clubhouse the way that
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 9: it might we might think it may. Be i'm sure
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 9: there are some guys that are affected more than. Others
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 9: but at some point there's gonna have to be a
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 9: switch that's flipped of finding like the the motivation of like,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 9: fine you guys want to doubt it's cool to us
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 9: against the, World like there will be a uniting factor
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 9: that happens here at some point in this, season and
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 9: then you're gonna see this team all of a sudden
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 9: skyrocket and go on a couple of. Runs but you
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 9: haven't seen those, five, six seven game win streaks, Yet
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 9: AND i think those can really unite a. TEAM i
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 9: think everyone is just, REALLY i don't want to, say
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 9: walking around on thin, ice but they're all wondering what's
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 9: gonna happen, Next like will there be a rostermoval to
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 9: be someone that's, defaide who's gonna start the piggyback next
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 9: week when the fifth rotation spot comes.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: Up there's a lot of question marks that are.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 9: Happening and then when you don't, win everyone has an
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 9: opinion and everyone's gonna blame, Somebody and if you are
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 9: that guy getting, blamed you kind of crawl into your
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 9: shell and you're, LIKE i gotta play better. Tomorrow the
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 9: pressure is gonna build a little. Bit that's the luxury
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 9: of Playing Major league. Baseball but they do it every.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: Year they're terrible in the spring every, year and then
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: they get red with. It so as frustrating as it might,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: BE i don't know why they start so slowly every,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: year AND i don't know why they get so hot
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the. Year BUT i think your
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: team was the last team that actually got off to
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: a good. Start when you guys went To japan and
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: scored like a thousand runs in the opening. WEEKEND i
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: think that was the Last mariner team that got off
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: to a hot. Start, yeah had that. GO i don't
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: think it went as well as you wanted it.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 9: To ALL i know IS i end up getting hip
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 9: surgery that year In, august AND i was non tendered
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 9: by the end of, it so it couldn't have been
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 9: all that. Great it wasn't great for, me so it
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 9: probably wasn't great for a lot of guys as.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: Well but.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 9: And that's kind of where my head has always been,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 9: at and it's hard for a fan to understand. That
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 9: and there's a lot of years and years compounding here
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 9: of frustration For mariners, fans which is. Warranted, please as
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 9: A mariner, fan if you're, frustrated please like you are. Validated,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 9: yeah there are so many reasons to be, frustrated AND
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 9: i understand. That AND i guess What i'm trying to
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 9: say is the player's perspective is that if they conduct
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 9: themselves as players with that same level frustration on a
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 9: daily basis and then try and go compete against another
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 9: major league, team it's just gonna get.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: Worse so you kind of have to pick a side
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: and really just go all in on. It AND i
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: hope THAT i don't.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 9: HOPE i actually believe that at some point there's gonna
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 9: be that cohesion between the fans and the players when
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 9: this team starts to heat. Up AND i really believe
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be timed up really nicely in this, summer
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 9: and it's going to carry them right into you know,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 9: What August september really need to be when they can
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 9: create that separation from the rest of the, pack and.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: Then all of a, sudden it'll be football. Season, yeah
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: it'll be celebrating The Super. Bowl it'll be a lot
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: of positive vibes happening In.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 9: Seattle but, unfortunately the sports gods up top are just,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 9: saying this is your time to just wear. It so
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 9: wear it for a few months and we'll see it
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 9: in the.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: SUMMER i still expect them to win this division. EASILY
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: i don't know about. YOU i do as.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: WELL i.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 9: WAS i was looking up on the D backs, recently
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 9: and The dbacks are, three four or five games over five.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 9: Hundred guess where they're sitting in their division firmly and
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 9: third behind two of the best teams in, baseball with
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 9: no hopes of breaking. Through so for, me, like let's
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 9: let's count the blessings a little bit. Here As mariners,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: fans they're still in a division where they have an
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 9: opportunity to take it and take control of it at some,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 9: point and we're frustrated because they haven't.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yet but it doesn't mean they. Won't they win to
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: night away still. There, yeah they win. Tonight they're half
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: game back first, place even as poorly as they've played
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: recently and throughout the season to this. Point so all, right,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: man awesome. Stuff appreciate. YOU i think maybe we have
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: found a little bit of, solution and that is that
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: everybody loves steak and. Fries so maybe The mariners just
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: need to have a little steak and fries in a.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: Dinner we can celebrate your daughter's birthday at the exact
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: same time Throughout. Seattle, wait AM i cooking for the
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: whole team? Now? Yes sign me. Up, yeah that's the
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: idea behind. It i'm gonna need a bigger. Trigger OH
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: i didn't know you were you? Cooked oh you cooked birthday? Dinner?
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 9: OH i THINK i ordered steak. Out you don't know
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 9: why went and got steak BECAUSE i can spend sixty
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 9: dollars on four good fillets and feed my entire family
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 9: with the bag of Frozen french fries in the air,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 9: fryer AND i can save money because they take them
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 9: out to burgers and fries cost me one hundred plus.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 9: DOLLARS i made money that, day, boy, MATTHIS i made
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 9: somebody that, day that.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: Boy, ALRIGHT i love. It all, right, man we'll talk
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: to you again next. Week can't. Wait All Ryan aley
• 2:04:31
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• 2:04:34
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