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Capítulo 028: Loca Epistemologies: Part ll · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit radio phonic
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, look at Motive. This is brown Girl Our
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Speaker 1: and this is Disa and look at the radio is
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Speaker 1: finally be back, yes recording, we took a little break
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Speaker 1: and this is our very first Welcome to season two.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to season for all of my novelets out there, right,
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Speaker 1: we made it host Yes, we made it through season one.
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Speaker 1: We made it through most important to take us out honestly,
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Speaker 1: and even like the beginning of has been a little
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Speaker 1: bit rough, I cannot lie right right, there's been some
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Speaker 1: stuff going on, but here we are persisting, resisting all
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Speaker 1: of those things for us. So we have so many
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Speaker 1: exciting things coming for I'm so excited to just like
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Speaker 1: we had, we planted all of our seeds in seventeen right,
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Speaker 1: so now I'm excited to really watch everything grow cultivate.
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Speaker 1: We'll started absolutely do like round two of things. This
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Speaker 1: for example, we'll get into the topic in a little bit. Um,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I'm just really excited for season two.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a fabulous season. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a fabulous year. And this year it's a new year,
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Speaker 1: and we have new rules, Alla, Dulia, Yes, like for real,
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Speaker 1: for real, Like we made some changes in seen. I know,
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Speaker 1: I made a lot of changes in seventeen and I
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Speaker 1: cut off things that weren't working for me anymore. And
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Speaker 1: I'm starting new things and new patterns and a new mindset,
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Speaker 1: and we have new rules, new rules. I'm not put
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Speaker 1: up with any bullshit anymore. If I don't want to
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Speaker 1: do it, I'm not going to do it. I agree,
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Speaker 1: And that's just how I'm deciding to live my life. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm just so happy with like
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Speaker 1: the stability of my mental health right now, Like I
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Speaker 1: just put so much work with my therapist in so
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Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, now when things go wrong,
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Speaker 1: like I can handle it, as opposed to before it's
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Speaker 1: like you feel like everything's going to crash around you.
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Speaker 1: But now I'm like, okay, Like I've made it through
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Speaker 1: the toughest year of my life thus far. I know
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Speaker 1: that whatever comes my way, I have like the tools
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Speaker 1: I need. I have the support system I need. I'm good,
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Speaker 1: you know, I love that. Yeah, thank you, I know.
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Speaker 1: So here's to you know, to you know, being healthy,
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Speaker 1: growing some wealth, growing some wealth, all kinds of wealth.
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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I'm excited, you know that cash wealth,
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Speaker 1: but also the spiritual wealth, love and the friendship as
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Speaker 1: wealthy seventeen taught me that and that is so real.
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Speaker 1: We have to prioritize ourselves and our health and our body.
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Speaker 1: So those are some of our new rules and our
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Speaker 1: new resolutions for the new year. And you know, speaking
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Speaker 1: of new things that we're introducing this year, so we're
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Speaker 1: introducing some new elements, some new segments to look. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we're going to be rolling out some segments throughout the year,
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Speaker 1: but today we have our very first one. Yes, and
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Speaker 1: you know, usually like when when we work aut Pezza Los,
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Speaker 1: either it's just you know, Yosa and I talking, talking, talking,
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Speaker 1: shooting the ship, or we have guests here. But now
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Speaker 1: we're going to actually implement some new programming to like
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Speaker 1: diversify a little bit and keep things fun, keep things different.
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Speaker 1: We are keeping things fresh for y'all. Yes, you know,
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Speaker 1: we're trying to be as original as possible. So our
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Speaker 1: new segment every look. I thought our radio we are
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Speaker 1: going to be answering listener questions and the name of
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Speaker 1: our new segment isca Act. And I feel like we
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Speaker 1: get a lot of the time, but we haven't really
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Speaker 1: answered it. And I would say that our listeners would
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Speaker 1: like to know. Okay, what is our beauty and skincare routine? Yes? Important, important,
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Speaker 1: very important. So do you want to go first? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I can go first. Okay, So let me start by
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Speaker 1: saying that my mom always always taught us to take
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Speaker 1: care of our skin, even as little girls. She even
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Speaker 1: wanted us like to start with like night cream and
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Speaker 1: I cream before we went to bed, so I will
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Speaker 1: try to always moisturize. I don't really buy as much
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Speaker 1: store bought creams as much anymore, but I do, like
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Speaker 1: I have this jar of like raw cocon and oil
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Speaker 1: that's actually from Trader Joe's that I love and that
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Speaker 1: I use as a makeup remover. My mom also always
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Speaker 1: taught us, like if you have blemishes and things, to
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Speaker 1: use like half a lemon and rub that on your face.
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Speaker 1: We we would use a lot of like like like
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Speaker 1: food based products, basically fruits and vegetables on our skin
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Speaker 1: and hair like we would always my mom would have
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Speaker 1: us do a hair mask of like avocado and olive oil,
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Speaker 1: sometimes of mayonnaise. These. Um, I've done avocado masks before.
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Speaker 1: I really like um charcoal masks and the African black
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Speaker 1: soap masks. Those are really good too. So yeah, a
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Speaker 1: variety of things. But I love olive oils are really
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Speaker 1: good for your hair. I love coconut oils for my skin.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's what I do. I drink lots of water.
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Speaker 1: I love water. I drink water all the time. I
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Speaker 1: don't really drink soda um to balance out all the
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Speaker 1: alcohol that I drink. Right, So I feel the same way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would say starting with water is like so important.
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Speaker 1: I have this app on my phone. UM, let me
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Speaker 1: pull it up. What it's called, but it basically allows
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Speaker 1: me to track my water intake. It's called I Hydrate
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Speaker 1: and my daily goal is eight ounces and I'm really
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Speaker 1: good about getting my eight ounces in, so I'm running
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Speaker 1: to the restroom all the time. But you know, I've
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Speaker 1: not I've noticed that, like there is a difference in
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Speaker 1: my skin. UM. When I was in high school, I
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Speaker 1: had UM, I had acne. You know, it wasn't too bad.
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Speaker 1: I think it was just like general like teenage acne.
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Speaker 1: You know, I still get blemishes here and there, um,
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Speaker 1: And I think I'm still like self conscious of my
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Speaker 1: skin because I had acne. But you have great skin,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. But so I put a lot
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Speaker 1: of work into my skin. Um. Same with Mama. Use
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Speaker 1: coconut oil as a makeup remover. I use a pond
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Speaker 1: the cream cleanser to remove all of my makeup. Um.
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Speaker 1: And then also the African Black soap, which Hazel is
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Speaker 1: the great great I used the like it has. It's
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Speaker 1: rosen fused. I buy it at Target. I don't know
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Speaker 1: the name, but it's Witch Hazel. And serums are something
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to incorporate before you, so you put it
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Speaker 1: on after your tone or pre Moisturizer. I don't have
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Speaker 1: one that I like thus far. They're all really expensive,
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Speaker 1: so I like do little samples here and there um,
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Speaker 1: and then moisturizer I just like rotate out. It really
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Speaker 1: depends on the weather. So I have like my winter
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Speaker 1: moisturizer my summer moisturizer, so it really depends. Um. But
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Speaker 1: I would say, like don't sleep with your makeup bottom,
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Speaker 1: which is sometimes you know, we come home from the cloud.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes we're guilty of it. I know I'm guilty of it.
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Speaker 1: Here and there it happens. I know that when I
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Speaker 1: could happen, you know, have me after having a few
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Speaker 1: drinks and I don't want to. What's good to have
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Speaker 1: is like makeup remover, makeup wipes by your bed, so
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Speaker 1: I will just take off my makeup and I'm like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: at least I took off my makeup. I didn't watch
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Speaker 1: my face, but at least my makeup is off. The
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Speaker 1: very least. You gotta do that. I try to do
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Speaker 1: that to take your makeup off before you sleep. Um.
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Speaker 1: I would also say I struggle with this because I
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Speaker 1: go well, this past week, I've been going to the
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Speaker 1: gym straight from work. So but don't work out with
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Speaker 1: makeup on. You know. I know people do a full
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Speaker 1: face furnished I've seen it and like the power to you.
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Speaker 1: But I know that my skin connot handle sweat and makeup.
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Speaker 1: You want your skin to also be able to breathe.
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Speaker 1: You wanted to bring out the makeup are open? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's the other thing is like I have big
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Speaker 1: poor so I'm constantly like Bory poor strips, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I like to do a lot of I use the
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Speaker 1: sat ims, the apricot strap. I know it's harsh on
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, but for me, the exfliating is
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Speaker 1: so important, exploating every day every day. Yes, I do
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Speaker 1: a mask once or twice a week, a sheet mask
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Speaker 1: or a clay mask. The Korean sheet masks everything, everything,
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Speaker 1: and you can get them for cheat you can. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and Target even has like their own brand where they're
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Speaker 1: like two or three dollars for like one sheet mask,
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Speaker 1: which I know, like if you're buying a couple, that's
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Speaker 1: a lot, but like here and there, like I really
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Speaker 1: like to I like to fall asleep with them on,
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Speaker 1: especially because they're like serum based, so it's like you're
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Speaker 1: putting it is like you're putting a serum on your
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Speaker 1: face or very soothing. Yes, I love them. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: that is our first segment of look As, Look As
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Speaker 1: Are we answering just the one question? Are we going
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Speaker 1: to answer two questions? Should we do too? We? Should
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Speaker 1: we do one at the end, We'll do one at
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Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, okay, fabulous, fabulous, fabulous. Okay, So like
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Speaker 1: we this episode, this gut beat, the low. We're getting
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Speaker 1: into locup Pistemology is part two, yes, um, I think
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Speaker 1: so look Up Pistemology is part one, like really set
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Speaker 1: the framework for local radio, right, So since we're beginning
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Speaker 1: a new year, I want it to be the same,
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Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to set a framework for where
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Speaker 1: we're at. You know, check In also expand on like
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Speaker 1: our very first concept of local pistemologies. So I'm super
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Speaker 1: excitedly they were bringing this one back, and that was
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Speaker 1: the very first radio ever was loc up Pistemologies. So
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Speaker 1: it's just full circle, full circle. I can't believe that
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Speaker 1: we're already here, like right, I love that we're able
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Speaker 1: to do part two of things now, especially because we
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Speaker 1: have so much to say about everything. Y'all know this,
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Speaker 1: If anything, we have more to say than than even before.
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Speaker 1: I agree. You know that Capitolo is so important because,
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Speaker 1: like I said, it shapes it really lays the groundwork
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Speaker 1: for local radio. At the same time, because it was
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Speaker 1: the first episode, I can't really listen to it because
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's like kind of cringe worthy to me,
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Speaker 1: only because it's like we were brand new, we were learning,
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Speaker 1: we didn't really necessarily know about like our sound, our rhythm. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: and I know we did. I feel like in our
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Speaker 1: very first we did a lot of like talk back
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Speaker 1: to each other, which is good in a conversation, but
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Speaker 1: when you're when you're listening to it as someone else,
10:15
Speaker 1: if you're a listener, right, it's it can be a
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Speaker 1: little much. Sure. Um, So I really like that, you
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Speaker 1: know how much we've grown, how much we've learned. So
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited that now we can bring this episode
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Speaker 1: back and you know, we're well season now, so we
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Speaker 1: have a good s Oh my god, what a throwback back.
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Speaker 1: That was one of my first Twitter handle. Yes I
10:36
Speaker 1: was for years. Yes, I know we have. But for
10:45
Speaker 1: those of you maybe like and here's the thing is,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot more listeners now versus when we
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Speaker 1: recorded the very first look epistemologies, and you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: a lot of our new listeners haven't necessarily heard all
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Speaker 1: of our all the way through. So just to recap,
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Speaker 1: you know, are very first Cupca pistemologies. We talked about
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Speaker 1: how basically for us we can look at historically, like
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Speaker 1: in Latino communities, women survivors, queer folks who have spoken
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Speaker 1: up against like abuse or powerful men are so often
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Speaker 1: pathologized and called lokas and crazy and dismissed and oh, Noca,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't listen to you. We can't listen to her.
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Speaker 1: She's always, you know, yelling about something. And we want
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Speaker 1: to reclaim that, right. And you know, Mama and I
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Speaker 1: both self identify as locas, which is why we created
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Speaker 1: a look at our radio, right. And I think you know,
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Speaker 1: also in addition to Whatmala said, it's also a loca
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Speaker 1: is someone that goes outside of the norm, right in
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Speaker 1: many ways. You know, we we moved away from home,
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Speaker 1: which is outside of the norm, right. We have you know,
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Speaker 1: very well, not very but we have like we're very
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Speaker 1: transferent about our dating lives, right, which is not something
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Speaker 1: that like a Nina Winna does. Right. We're very real
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Speaker 1: in that way. So I think that's you know, that's
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Speaker 1: another way that we try to reclaim and embrace the
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Speaker 1: term loca, right, and also really looking and revealing, you
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Speaker 1: know the fact that historically the women that have been
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Speaker 1: demonizing called called crazy are actually survivors, are actually survivors
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Speaker 1: of abuse and survivors of patriarchal violence and you know,
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Speaker 1: rape culture and sexual assault, and we talked about, for example,
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Speaker 1: in our first cupola, our first example of the look
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Speaker 1: on where epistemology can be formed around is a figure
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Speaker 1: such as La Malinche for example, Right that in our culture,
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Speaker 1: especially for like Mexicans, Mexican Americans, Chicanos, there's this this
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Speaker 1: desire to really talk down about her or she's a trader,
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Speaker 1: a race trader, when she was really an indigenous woman
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Speaker 1: who was sexually assaulted and kidnapped and bought and sold.
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I couldn't agree and I echo that sentiment. UM.
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Speaker 1: So really like reframing and giving power to these survivor narratives, right,
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Speaker 1: that's what we do on in with this podcast on
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Speaker 1: Look at Radio, UM, and it's what we're going to
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Speaker 1: continue to do in the year. And I mean especially
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Speaker 1: we you know all we continue to touch upon survivorhood,
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Speaker 1: survivor narratives, rape culture, sexual violence, especially with everything that's
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Speaker 1: been going on the disclosures of sexual harassment Hollywood, the
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Speaker 1: movie industry, film and television. We continue to talk about
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Speaker 1: all of this stuff and almost every coup the lot.
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Speaker 1: But I think today, especially like it's important to kind
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Speaker 1: of recap of what's been going on, right, and how
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Speaker 1: women are being treated, how survivors are being treated in
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Speaker 1: the midst of all of this, you know, yeah, absolutely
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Speaker 1: so you know, for part two of local Epistemologies, you know,
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Speaker 1: we want to touch on talk about the with the
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Speaker 1: women who have spoken up against powerful men, right, and
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Speaker 1: we're stigmatized, we're called crazy. Right. This is not something new. Um.
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Speaker 1: We know that this is what survivors are told, survivors
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Speaker 1: of abuse, of rape, of domestic violence. Um. And there's
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Speaker 1: there's also, um I think when you when you do
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Speaker 1: speak out against violence, there's also a loss that your feeling. Right,
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Speaker 1: there's a lots of maybe this narrative you constructed about yourself. Right.
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Speaker 1: There's also grief involved in the process, which I don't
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Speaker 1: think we talk a lot about, um, grief itself, that
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Speaker 1: this thing occurred, that it happened, because I think you
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Speaker 1: know something that with the victim blaming that goes on
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Speaker 1: when a survivor tries to disclose like an assault or abuse, right,
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Speaker 1: This victim blaming like assumes that that there's some type
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Speaker 1: of wind here for the survivor and speaking out or
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Speaker 1: there's something to be gained when they're quite often at
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Speaker 1: the time is nothing to be gained, right, and it's
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Speaker 1: a horrible thing to be talking about. It's not something
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Speaker 1: that's done with like joy. You know, there's joy in
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Speaker 1: being able to speak up for oneself and to take
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Speaker 1: up your space again and reclaim your agency. There's joy
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Speaker 1: in that, right. But I think so many of the
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Speaker 1: survivors and a lot of the women in Hollywood right
14:51
Speaker 1: who have come out talked about what's been going on,
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Speaker 1: they've been keeping that stuff bottled up for years, right,
14:56
Speaker 1: you know, while they're in the public eye, we there's
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Speaker 1: all the other stuff in the background that none of
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Speaker 1: us knew about really right, right, and knowing that if
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Speaker 1: they spoke up at the time it would affect their careers, right,
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Speaker 1: that their careers would be over, then no one would
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Speaker 1: want to work with them. So these are things that
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Speaker 1: women have carried and outside of Hollywood, women do carry
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Speaker 1: this this shame right that their life is going to
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Speaker 1: be over. Um, So you know we want to hold
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Speaker 1: space for that, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. Um, we're going
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Speaker 1: to bring in a new example today as well, expanding
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Speaker 1: the look up pistemologies and who else is doing it?
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Speaker 1: Who else is creating a look up pistemology? Yes, so
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Speaker 1: we have an example, actually a South American example, Yes,
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Speaker 1: we do. We have two South American examples, um SO.
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Speaker 1: One a few months ago. Um there is an exhibit
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Speaker 1: that opened up at the Museum of Sex in New
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Speaker 1: York City and it's called Vita Nila. And the photographer
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Speaker 1: artist is named Juan and he's an article, an artist,
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Speaker 1: a photographer. The photographs trans women in Peru. And what
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Speaker 1: he does is he makes them, um he photographs them
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Speaker 1: as as religious icons as Santa's so Vi. Is about
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Speaker 1: highlighting the marginalization that trans women and leave, specifically in
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Speaker 1: Lima face. Um how there's very few resources from them.
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Speaker 1: How the Catholic Church does everything in its power to
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Speaker 1: destroy any type of resources that are available to the
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Speaker 1: trans community in Peru. Um so, in specifically in this uh,
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Speaker 1: this exhibit, it's about celebrating the beauty in these trans
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Speaker 1: women in this trans community is specifically in South American Peru.
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Speaker 1: Um So, we wanted to talk about that because it's
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Speaker 1: super powerful. Um A. Gorgeous, They're gorgeous. They're gorgeous. You
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Speaker 1: have not that, Yes, we will post them. We can
16:46
Speaker 1: kind of just talk about some of the photos and
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Speaker 1: kind of describe them. Yeah. Absolutely, So one that's really
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Speaker 1: beautiful is three women, um that are one one woman
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Speaker 1: is like sitting on a throw own and she is
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Speaker 1: like adorned with with a veil, and then there are
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Speaker 1: two women sitting beneath her that are also wearing crowns,
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Speaker 1: also adorned, and they're just really like just striking a pose.
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Speaker 1: It's like a holy trinity, and they're wearing blue and
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Speaker 1: soft blues and whites, and it's very beautiful. Yes, they're
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Speaker 1: very ethereal, these photos, very ethereal, very otherworldly, but there's
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Speaker 1: this mixture of like chaos that goes on. Like in
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Speaker 1: this photo that you're showing, there's like a naked mouhe
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Speaker 1: sitting in the middle of a room and there's a
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Speaker 1: bunch of chairs surrounding her and they're kind of topsy
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Speaker 1: turvy and on top of each other and pointing in
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Speaker 1: different directions. Yeah. And I think that it's important to
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Speaker 1: talk about the trans community specifically when we're talking about locupistemologies,
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Speaker 1: is because trans folks are very often called crazy, right,
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Speaker 1: They're they're outside of the norm, right segn um, and
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Speaker 1: they are also you know, the most persecuted, right, Yeah. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And I think, like you know, ends. I think scholars
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Speaker 1: and thinkers will talk about this, but there's a piece
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Speaker 1: of this where it's like society are treating trans women
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Speaker 1: as if they are rejecting manhood or masculinity, right, And
18:13
Speaker 1: so that stigma and that hatred comes out because who
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Speaker 1: would choose femininity over masculinity? Who would choose to do
18:21
Speaker 1: away with whatever society's perception of your your manhood or
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Speaker 1: your masculinity, right, and do away with that and reject it.
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Speaker 1: And it's seen as this total like turn, this total
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Speaker 1: like unexpected turn of events for a patriarchal society. For
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Speaker 1: how much society it's not the preferred route, right, No,
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Speaker 1: and like only Loca right would do that, right, only
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Speaker 1: a crazy person would decide to, you know, flip this
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Speaker 1: upside down right society. Right. So these antriarchical norms exactly
18:55
Speaker 1: because as we know and as we've talked about, and
18:56
Speaker 1: I mean, like here in Los Angeles is very true,
18:59
Speaker 1: like come unities throughout the area that we now know
19:02
Speaker 1: as Latin America, but indigenous communities for for centuries, there
19:06
Speaker 1: have been multiple genders, third genders, gender fluidity. I mean,
19:11
Speaker 1: we can talk about like here in my community and
19:13
Speaker 1: people union every year there's a Gagetsa in the Wahacan
19:16
Speaker 1: community and there's always a contingent of the Muche and
19:20
Speaker 1: they have like a mouche queen, they have a court princesses,
19:25
Speaker 1: and so like that community is very present, right, and
19:29
Speaker 1: so the mooche would be considered like a third gender
19:33
Speaker 1: or trans women from a specific like Wahacan indigenous communities,
19:37
Speaker 1: and so the community has always been here, you know. Absolutely,
19:41
Speaker 1: it's about but can we honor and can we recognize
19:43
Speaker 1: and actually like give that respect in that space and protection? Yeah. Absolutely,
19:49
Speaker 1: And um, so I wanted to just read a quote
19:51
Speaker 1: from the artist website. Um they're talking about like the
19:56
Speaker 1: concept of Vitez la Porta and how it dates back
19:59
Speaker 1: to Lavitan the concepcion Um, which hung with like a
20:03
Speaker 1: celebration in Otusko, Peru. So it's the northern part of Peru.
20:07
Speaker 1: And um there's like a feast and a festival. So
20:10
Speaker 1: there's this tale that was born in like the nine
20:14
Speaker 1: between the nineteen seventies and the nineteen eighties that there
20:17
Speaker 1: was a priest that would travel to Peru and he
20:20
Speaker 1: would bring a congregation of trans women to really take
20:24
Speaker 1: care of the feast and the festival. Um. And this
20:28
Speaker 1: is like like a like a tale, right they say that, like, oh,
20:30
Speaker 1: it's hard to find the priests and it's hard to
20:33
Speaker 1: like tell who it was and like who it dates
20:35
Speaker 1: back to. But this is like basically a folk tale
20:38
Speaker 1: in um Peru, right in the northern part of Peru,
20:41
Speaker 1: that unlike other clergymen, unlike other priests, he actually embraced
20:45
Speaker 1: the trans women in the trans community and allowed them
20:48
Speaker 1: to be active participants in the congregation, right and trust
20:51
Speaker 1: them with an important task, which is to take care
20:54
Speaker 1: of the effigy of So that is why this this
20:58
Speaker 1: exhibit is called um So, I just wanted to honor
21:03
Speaker 1: the photographer and the women that are in this this
21:06
Speaker 1: beautiful exhibit, in this beautiful project. UM. And also you know,
21:10
Speaker 1: talk about the trends communities in Latin America. Yeah right,
21:14
Speaker 1: I mean there's so much to talk about to um.
21:17
Speaker 1: You know here in l A. I know that we
21:21
Speaker 1: have like a Bombay who do a lot of education
21:25
Speaker 1: and activism around you know, undocumented trans Latin American women. Um.
21:31
Speaker 1: And so that's a huge focus especially here in l A.
21:34
Speaker 1: If we think about like detainment, immigration raids, we think
21:37
Speaker 1: about the most vulnerable of our undocumented community. It's going
21:41
Speaker 1: to be transgender individuals, transgender women who are most likely
21:45
Speaker 1: leaving home countries where there's violence exactly. Um. So yeah,
21:49
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that we're able to like bring that
21:54
Speaker 1: survivor narrative here into this space too, into look at
21:57
Speaker 1: the radio. I think it's time to come up to
22:00
Speaker 1: our song break nowes or castera belly rostra and and
22:07
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
22:14
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and belly
22:23
Speaker 1: ra and and and send belly rack and and and
22:29
Speaker 1: and belly rack and and and and um um from
22:35
Speaker 1: from um um from from from um from me of
22:45
Speaker 1: it and ship and we're back. So coming back. We
22:53
Speaker 1: have more to talk about as far as look at
22:55
Speaker 1: pistemologies and more examples um from South America, look us
22:59
Speaker 1: doing it. Yes, Um. I'm sure by now we've talked
23:02
Speaker 1: about it on this guppy little before. But I'm sure
23:04
Speaker 1: y'all are familiar with New Nemenos. It's a collective of activists,
23:10
Speaker 1: you know, academics, journalists, artists, moheedes um that was born.
23:15
Speaker 1: It's a movement that was born in argentthena UM in Anthena,
23:20
Speaker 1: every thirty hours a woman is murdered for being a woman. Right,
23:25
Speaker 1: So gender based violence, um femicides are a very big
23:29
Speaker 1: part of Latin America. Right. So this was born out
23:33
Speaker 1: of you know, Moheed is wanting to say, like V
23:37
Speaker 1: you know, it's time. Um so, I mean, I think
23:42
Speaker 1: this is an ongoing exactly because we did do another
23:46
Speaker 1: last year. Um last spring, I went to Mexico City,
23:50
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I talked about this trip on
23:52
Speaker 1: one of our past cups, but just to recappen again
23:54
Speaker 1: for our new listeners because you know, uh, there might
23:57
Speaker 1: be listeners who are just picking up now or just
24:00
Speaker 1: starting with season two or whatever. But I went to
24:02
Speaker 1: Mexico City and Niona Mentos became very relevant while I
24:06
Speaker 1: was there because two different things happened while I was
24:08
Speaker 1: in Mexico City with with two of my girlfriends, my
24:11
Speaker 1: co workers. So we went and we wanted to go
24:13
Speaker 1: to the Museum of Tolerance because there was an ongoing
24:17
Speaker 1: Femini Ceo you know, exhibition that was going on there.
24:20
Speaker 1: And what was interesting was at the Museum of Tolerance,
24:23
Speaker 1: it's a it's a genocide museum in Mexico City in
24:26
Speaker 1: the capital, and they had two separate Feminine CEO exhibits
24:31
Speaker 1: going on at once, on two different floors at this
24:33
Speaker 1: Holocaust museum, at this genocide museum. So there was one
24:36
Speaker 1: about Femini CEO in Mexico and another one about Femini
24:39
Speaker 1: CEO and Guatemala. So already, just in one building you
24:43
Speaker 1: have two separate feminie cetheos and countries that are very
24:46
Speaker 1: close to each other, right, And it's just it was
24:49
Speaker 1: just it was it made me cry, you know, the
24:51
Speaker 1: whole thing. I talked about it on on whatever capitulo
24:54
Speaker 1: that was. But just so many women, so many women
24:57
Speaker 1: of color, so many Latin American women, darned by men
25:00
Speaker 1: in our own communities and in our own cultures. And
25:03
Speaker 1: those are the men that kill us our our own right,
25:06
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And a statistic that I remember from
25:08
Speaker 1: then a year ago that will always like stick to me.
25:12
Speaker 1: There was a statistic that they showed that overt of
25:16
Speaker 1: like murdered women and girls in Mexico, their bodies are
25:19
Speaker 1: left in public places, right, And how feminie cdo is
25:22
Speaker 1: such a public thing and such a public action and
25:26
Speaker 1: instant act of terrorism, right to remind us that we're
25:29
Speaker 1: not safe and our bodies are not our own, right,
25:32
Speaker 1: and that was what that was. There were two and
25:34
Speaker 1: two acts of violence that occurred in in Argentina. One
25:38
Speaker 1: of them was a woman was murdered and then just
25:40
Speaker 1: you know, left on the side of the road, which
25:43
Speaker 1: that was one of the catalysts of why NEWMNOS was
25:45
Speaker 1: was born and was there was a need for it, right,
25:48
Speaker 1: And to say, like Neona Menoss is international, right, Every
25:55
Speaker 1: Latin American country has their own marchamnos, right, Bedu has
25:59
Speaker 1: a chapter, UM, Brazil has a chapter. Mexico like every
26:03
Speaker 1: year there is a march, and it's on the same day, UM,
26:06
Speaker 1: and it's to talk about femicides, right, right, and while
26:10
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but that's And while I was in
26:13
Speaker 1: Mexico and we went to this this um genocide museum.
26:16
Speaker 1: While I was there, a girl, a student was strangled.
26:20
Speaker 1: She was murdered by her boyfriend and her body was
26:24
Speaker 1: left next to the engineering building on the UNAM campus.
26:27
Speaker 1: And UNAM is the largest university in Mexico. So all
26:31
Speaker 1: this happened while I was there there, and so inevitably
26:34
Speaker 1: the neon A Menos hashtags were going off online. There
26:37
Speaker 1: were then and I wanted. You're talking about how this
26:41
Speaker 1: is international, right, it's Latin America. But also like recently
26:44
Speaker 1: this little girl, the seven year old girl za nap
26:47
Speaker 1: On sorry Um of Pakistan who was like kidnapped and
26:52
Speaker 1: then she was raped and murdered, right, and her body
26:54
Speaker 1: was found and so now in Pakistan, the women over there, right,
26:57
Speaker 1: they're doing their neon a menhos right, because this is
27:00
Speaker 1: really everywhere, right. And you know one thing I've seen
27:03
Speaker 1: um on Facebook because I follow a lot of feminists
27:07
Speaker 1: like collective groups of Latin America, and a lot of
27:09
Speaker 1: the comments that I read because I love to read
27:11
Speaker 1: the comments because you can really see where people are at, right,
27:14
Speaker 1: like in the comments, and a lot of the comments
27:16
Speaker 1: are from men saying like, well, men are killed even
27:19
Speaker 1: more right, The difference is that men aren't killed for
27:22
Speaker 1: being men, you know. There of course, there is like
27:25
Speaker 1: domestic violence that effects men, we know that, right, it's
27:28
Speaker 1: a smaller percentage. We're talking about women that are killed
27:31
Speaker 1: by their partners, you know, by the men in their lives,
27:34
Speaker 1: simply for for being women, right, um too because they
27:37
Speaker 1: have control over them, because women are not thrown autonomous beings, right,
27:41
Speaker 1: because the men are entitled to even their life. Absolutely,
27:45
Speaker 1: there's I mean, the phenomenon of femicide is this phenomenon
27:49
Speaker 1: in which the when women are murdered, when there is
27:52
Speaker 1: a homicide of a woman, when a woman is murdered,
27:55
Speaker 1: the vast, vast, vast majority of the time she is
27:57
Speaker 1: killed by a man, just in general, whether that's her
27:59
Speaker 1: part ner, it's more likely to be. But there is
28:01
Speaker 1: a very like intense phenomenon that only really goes in
28:05
Speaker 1: this one direction. Men kill women in mass It does
28:07
Speaker 1: not go the other way. Women do not murder men
28:10
Speaker 1: in mass When men are murdered, they're likely murdered by
28:12
Speaker 1: other men. So men murder everybody, right, And I think
28:15
Speaker 1: that's so much of the roots of all this violence
28:18
Speaker 1: as we have to be honest about that and be like, hey,
28:21
Speaker 1: there's a problem here, exactly exactly I mean. And I'm
28:25
Speaker 1: not sure if we talked about this. I know, Mal
28:26
Speaker 1: and I we've talked about it, you know, just between
28:28
Speaker 1: the two of us. But when you see like acts
28:31
Speaker 1: of terror, like mass shootings, like more likely than not,
28:34
Speaker 1: the shooter, who is a man, has also history of
28:38
Speaker 1: domestic violence violence against women. Yes, And it's just proven
28:43
Speaker 1: almost every single in recent memory. In the past years,
28:46
Speaker 1: almost every single mass shooter there was some previous history
28:50
Speaker 1: of violence against women, of partner abuse, of domestic violence,
28:54
Speaker 1: almost every single mass shooter. And it's it's scary, and
28:58
Speaker 1: it's like, if you want to stop shootings, you need
29:00
Speaker 1: to listen to women, like you have to, like, really
29:03
Speaker 1: it's life and death at this point. Believe women believe
29:07
Speaker 1: survivors right so much. Right, So, I mean when women
29:12
Speaker 1: are talking about femicides, when women are talking about the intimate,
29:16
Speaker 1: intimate partner violence that they're facing, Um, it's right, the
29:21
Speaker 1: gas lighting. That's where the loca comes in, Right, the
29:24
Speaker 1: loca I'm going to call her crazy because I never
29:27
Speaker 1: I never hit her, right, but I was, you know,
29:29
Speaker 1: psychologically abusive, but I bet all right, So there's there's
29:34
Speaker 1: a lot of these this gas lighting that happens. Um.
29:36
Speaker 1: So it's really important that we talk about how women
29:39
Speaker 1: are called painted as the crazy ones, right when they're
29:42
Speaker 1: talking about violence against them and when they're simply pointing
29:45
Speaker 1: out our own experiences, right, And then that you mentioned,
29:48
Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, well if I didn't hit
29:50
Speaker 1: her or whatever, And Kelly had come up with the hashtag, right,
29:56
Speaker 1: which has also gone International, which is about all the
29:59
Speaker 1: different types of intimate partner violence and abuse. So check
30:02
Speaker 1: out that hashtag. Also for in Spanish that dialogue as well. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
30:09
Speaker 1: begging right another great source. So yeah, I mean part
30:13
Speaker 1: of this, and we can always go back to this
30:15
Speaker 1: idea of like survivorhood being criminalized. Right. And there are
30:19
Speaker 1: feminists and women is who for many years have talked
30:21
Speaker 1: about the fact that like women, that we have no
30:24
Speaker 1: selves to defend, right, that women of color have no
30:26
Speaker 1: self to defend, especially with regards to like black women
30:29
Speaker 1: and Native women. So if you don't actually, if I
30:32
Speaker 1: don't actually have a body to defend, right, I don't
30:34
Speaker 1: have rights, then when my act of self defense is
30:37
Speaker 1: going to be read as outright violence or criminality, right,
30:41
Speaker 1: because I don't have anything to defend, right, I have
30:44
Speaker 1: no autonomy, I have no boundaries. So we must be
30:47
Speaker 1: crazy to speak up against power. We must be crazy
30:50
Speaker 1: because what rights are we? What rights? It's like we're delusional, right,
30:55
Speaker 1: because we're asking for respect in a place that doesn't
30:57
Speaker 1: even recognize us as fully human. Right, right, So that's
31:01
Speaker 1: why you just we have to keep being loud. That's
31:03
Speaker 1: the only option that is the only option really, and
31:07
Speaker 1: I mean, especially with all this stuff going on, I
31:09
Speaker 1: see really a shift happening. I can feel like the
31:12
Speaker 1: cishet men are really scared. They're shook, and they should
31:15
Speaker 1: be scared. I want them to be scared, to be yeah,
31:18
Speaker 1: I know. I mean like just the other day, um,
31:20
Speaker 1: like women came forward and we're talking about James Franco
31:24
Speaker 1: Yes and the ship that he was doing at acting schools.
31:27
Speaker 1: Apparently that he was going to acting schools and trying
31:30
Speaker 1: to get the girls, the women, the students, the actresses
31:34
Speaker 1: to exchange sexual favors for movie parts, for movie roles.
31:40
Speaker 1: It's disgusting and it's like all these men, over all
31:43
Speaker 1: these years, with control of the money, the studios, the
31:47
Speaker 1: millions and billions of dollars, the equipment, the means of production.
31:51
Speaker 1: It's so shitty because I'm sure that if those shitty
31:55
Speaker 1: men were not there and like women, fems, queer people,
31:59
Speaker 1: more people of color had access to all of those
32:01
Speaker 1: resources like cinema, the movies, the media that we would
32:04
Speaker 1: have now today would be so different. Damn. It's gross
32:10
Speaker 1: to me that like rapists have controlled Hollywood for so long,
32:12
Speaker 1: like just straight up literally rapists and have controlled all
32:16
Speaker 1: the money right right, and like Woody Allen is still
32:18
Speaker 1: like doing the damn thing. Roman Polanski is still out there.
32:22
Speaker 1: They're all still out there. Harvey Weinstein is still out there.
32:26
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of anybody facing criminal charges. You'll hear
32:29
Speaker 1: here and there. Oh, you know, the police are investigating
32:32
Speaker 1: at the NYPD are investigating Harvey Weinstein, and now they're
32:35
Speaker 1: investigating Steven Seagal. But to what ends investigating? And this
32:39
Speaker 1: is what I want everybody to know. In that in
32:41
Speaker 1: my field of work and rape crisis work, what I
32:43
Speaker 1: come to learn is that when the police say they're investigating,
32:45
Speaker 1: that can mean anything. That can mean, oh, we attempted
32:47
Speaker 1: to call the suspect three times and couldn't get an interview,
32:50
Speaker 1: will be attempted to investigate. That's really what it means
32:53
Speaker 1: to them sometimes. So when we talk about these powerful
32:56
Speaker 1: men who have committed all these acts of sexual violence,
32:59
Speaker 1: they're being investigated, Well, what then does that really mean? Exactly?
33:03
Speaker 1: Exactly mm hmmm. So belief survivors, believe survivors, New year,
33:09
Speaker 1: new rules, We're already exhausted. We're already like god, you know,
33:16
Speaker 1: keeping a lock, keeping you be your fucking self. Yes,
33:24
Speaker 1: keep like pushing the boundaries, always what I say, and
33:28
Speaker 1: because you never know what will come of back, because
33:30
Speaker 1: you know, people are always watching. People are always watching,
33:32
Speaker 1: people are always watching, and you never know. You just
33:35
Speaker 1: deciding to be yourself and living your authentic self and
33:37
Speaker 1: creating what you want to create, people watch and they're
33:40
Speaker 1: drawn to its inspires, Connections are made, new opportunities are
33:45
Speaker 1: possible when you're yourself, you know. Yeah, I agree. Well,
33:50
Speaker 1: this has been a cute reentry into like recording and
33:53
Speaker 1: coming back in the stew in the studio. First golf
33:59
Speaker 1: to beet the love of the year. Yes, we have
34:01
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up, we have some announcements. Yes, this
34:04
Speaker 1: has been in the works for since like the summer
34:08
Speaker 1: maybe summer, and we've been dying to talk about it.
34:12
Speaker 1: But the plane tickets have been booked officially, contracts have
34:17
Speaker 1: been signed, so we can finally talk about it. UM.
34:21
Speaker 1: We will be at the University of Oregon on February one.
34:26
Speaker 1: In February two, UM, we were invited to speak at
34:29
Speaker 1: their RASSA conference youth conference. Yes exactly, so we will
34:35
Speaker 1: be the keynote, We will be the key note. Look,
34:41
Speaker 1: I thought I is delivering an effing keynote. Yes, we're
34:44
Speaker 1: really excited. We will also be hosting a workshop at
34:48
Speaker 1: the conference and then the day before we're hosting a
34:50
Speaker 1: workshop with their Multicultural Center. So if you're in Oregon,
34:54
Speaker 1: you know this is at the University of Oregon in Eugene.
34:57
Speaker 1: We're super super excited to be there. Yes, I see us,
35:01
Speaker 1: um say, hi, so excited. This is going to be
35:05
Speaker 1: a cute trip. It is because is this our first
35:07
Speaker 1: out of state trip. This is our first out of state,
35:09
Speaker 1: our first out of states. We're excited. We did some
35:14
Speaker 1: college some college speaking gigs and workshops in Seen and
35:18
Speaker 1: we just want to grow and keep doing it. And
35:20
Speaker 1: we love students, we love universities, bring us out. We
35:24
Speaker 1: have a lot to say. Yea, we have some exciting
35:26
Speaker 1: events happening in so you know, we're going to keep
35:30
Speaker 1: those under reps for now, but we're super excited to
35:33
Speaker 1: share that we'll be at the University of Oregon. And
35:36
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out the organizer of it, Onica,
35:39
Speaker 1: She has been reaching out to us, you know, the idea.
35:43
Speaker 1: She brought the idea to us and we were super
35:45
Speaker 1: down and it's been like a while, like many months
35:48
Speaker 1: that we've been like in contact with her and now
35:52
Speaker 1: it's finally you know, here, So we're really excited. So
35:54
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36:01
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