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- 0:08Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek.com.
- 0:13Speaker 2: And Rich Valdez is with us, former Christie administration official.
- 0:15Speaker 2: You work for Chris Christie, you've been in politics, a
- 0:17Speaker 2: lot of public service stuff.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Rich Valdez, columnist now with the Washington Times.
- 0:21Speaker 4: This is America.
- 0:22Speaker 5: Richie V, you're on the air with the nation.
- 0:24Speaker 4: This is America with your host, Rich Valdez.
- 0:30Speaker 5: What's up, America?
- 0:31Speaker 3: I am Rich Valdez. Valdez with an S at Rich
- 0:33Speaker 3: Valdez on all of the social media. Your liberty-loving Latino
- 0:36Speaker 3: amigo right here 17 blocks away from Madison Square Garden,
- 0:39Speaker 3: Times Square, New York City. Blessed and honored to be
- 0:42Speaker 3: with you guys this Monday night. Happy Columbus Day. Welcome
- 0:46Speaker 3: to This is America, our late-night national town hall conversation.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Give me your opinions on what's going on. Give me
- 0:52Speaker 3: a call. Dial the number 877- Valdes 1. That's 877-825-3371.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Of course, that's Valdes with an S. If you want
- 1:01Speaker 3: to share your thoughts, we will air it during our
- 1:03Speaker 3: Open Phone America segment. And again, felicidades, happy Columbus Day.
- 1:08Speaker 3: This is the day that we celebrate the bold Italian
- 1:10Speaker 3: who sailed into the unknown, you know, opening the door
- 1:14Speaker 3: to this extraordinary experiment we call today the United States. Now,
- 1:17Speaker 3: while some of our The people out there, they still
- 1:20Speaker 3: want to cancel history and rename everything, right? Indigenous Peoples Day.
- 1:25Speaker 3: And I happen to be in Indigenous Peoples, if that matters.
- 1:30Speaker 3: But it's because of their feelings, right? And the rest
- 1:33Speaker 3: of us are out here just saying, look, thanks. Thanks
- 1:35Speaker 3: for the courage that made this country possible. Of course,
- 1:38Speaker 3: somebody out there screaming, yeah, what about the rapes?
- 1:40Speaker 5: He was a pirate.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Listen, you can't win them all. Now, growing up in
- 1:44Speaker 3: Brooklyn and cutting hair as a teenager, you guys know
- 1:47Speaker 3: I was a barber. in Hudson County, I learned a lot,
- 1:51Speaker 3: and I learned early, that hard work and grit, it
- 1:53Speaker 3: beats grievance every single day. Rather than complaining, just get
- 1:58Speaker 3: on your grind, do what you got to do. So
- 2:00Speaker 3: you show up, you hustle, you build something. You don't
- 2:02Speaker 3: apologize for the story of how you got here. You
- 2:05Speaker 3: just celebrate the fact that you're already here. And speaking
- 2:09Speaker 3: of these stories, one of the stories that keeps delivering,
- 2:13Speaker 3: Ilhan Omar, her home was raided in D.C., by the
- 2:18Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security this morning as part of a
- 2:20Speaker 3: criminal investigation. Agents are executing a judicially authorized search warrant.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Boxes are coming out of her house.
- 2:27Speaker 5: The whole scene.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Listen to this audio clip we've got from the Fox
- 2:30Speaker 3: News Channel. David Spunt has the report.
- 2:34Speaker 6: All this happened a little bit shortly after 6 o'clock
- 2:37Speaker 6: this morning here at Congresswoman Omar's home in Washington, D.C.
- 2:41Speaker 6: It's unclear if she's home at this time. It does
- 2:43Speaker 6: not appear so because we've been out here for several
- 2:46Speaker 6: hours now after this happened. You can see on scene
- 2:49Speaker 6: behind me. There are several investigators from Homeland Security Investigations.
- 2:54Speaker 6: I'm going to back out of the way. Homeland Security Investigations,
- 2:56Speaker 6: they go by HSI. They are on scene. Also told
- 3:00Speaker 6: that DOJ involved in this investigation. We don't have details, guys,
- 3:05Speaker 6: specifically about what the investigation entails, but we can report
- 3:08Speaker 6: that it is a federal criminal investigation. I want to
- 3:12Speaker 6: read a statement. From a DOJ spokesperson, it says, quote,
- 3:16Speaker 6: today in the Washington, D.C. area, Homeland Security Investigations executed
- 3:20Speaker 6: a judicially authorized search warrant secured by the Department of Justice.
- 3:25Speaker 6: This enforcement action is part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation. Again,
- 3:31Speaker 6: we are out here at the congresswoman's home in Washington, D.C.,
- 3:35Speaker 6: No public comments from her at this time, but agents
- 3:38Speaker 6: have been out here for several hours, fairly quiet on
- 3:40Speaker 6: the street today on this Columbus Day here in Washington, D.C.
- 3:44Speaker 6: A couple of agents outside going in and out of
- 3:48Speaker 6: the home, but not a real strong presence, but still
- 3:51Speaker 6: no comment from the congresswoman at this time. but we
- 3:54Speaker 6: can't confirm she is under federal criminal investigation. I do
- 3:56Speaker 6: want to add one more thing, if I can, guys.
- 3:58Speaker 6: A judge did have to sign off on this search warrant.
- 4:01Speaker 6: This is not something DOJ or Homeland Security could just
- 4:04Speaker 6: do ad hoc. This is something a federal judge would
- 4:07Speaker 6: have had to sign off on for them behind me
- 4:10Speaker 6: to be here today.
- 4:11Speaker 3: So there you go. That's the report from David Spunt
- 4:15Speaker 3: from the Fox News Channel. That's what's going on with
- 4:17Speaker 3: Ilhan Omar, part of a federal criminal investigation. Listen, I'm
- 4:20Speaker 3: one of the first people out there saying, I hope
- 4:23Speaker 3: she gets what she deserves. I just don't believe she's
- 4:25Speaker 3: going to get anything. I'm one of those guys that
- 4:27Speaker 3: just doesn't believe that it's going to happen.
- 4:31Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong. I really do.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I hope, you know, somebody shuts me up, mainly my
- 4:34Speaker 3: big brother Joe. All right, my big brother Joe, he's
- 4:37Speaker 3: always out there telling me, oh, you think she's untouchable, Richie?
- 4:39Speaker 7: Yeah, watch, watch.
- 4:40Speaker 5: You wait and see, too. She married her brother.
- 4:42Speaker 2: She did this.
- 4:43Speaker 5: She did that. Listen, I hope so. I believe that
- 4:48Speaker 5: this is well-timed.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Right?
- 4:51Speaker 3: It's great that it's happening before the midterms. It adds
- 4:54Speaker 3: to Trump on the campaign trail, you know, giving his
- 4:57Speaker 3: stump speech saying, and.
- 4:59Speaker 7: You know, we've got Zoran Mamdani, my little commie in
- 5:03Speaker 7: New York.
- 5:03Speaker 5: He's ruining New York.
- 5:04Speaker 2: He's ruining it.
- 5:05Speaker 7: It used to be a great city. We got Ilhan
- 5:08Speaker 7: Omar and her brother. Oh, goodness, her brother.
- 5:12Speaker 5: They're under investigation, you know. I don't know what's going
- 5:14Speaker 5: on there.
- 5:14Speaker 2: I really don't.
- 5:14Speaker 5: I'm not involved. Right? And I could see him doing
- 5:17Speaker 5: that already from the campaign trail. Good. We need all
- 5:19Speaker 5: the help we can get. right?
- 5:21Speaker 3: Because this guy, El-Sayed, is in a statistical dead heat
- 5:26Speaker 3: with Rogers. Now, that was before the debate, the analysis
- 5:30Speaker 3: from Trafalgar, Robert Kahaly, who's a very accurate pollster. So
- 5:35Speaker 3: we'll see what's going on in the rest of those races.
- 5:37Speaker 3: But Ilhan Omar. And listen, She's already calling it a
- 5:47Speaker 3: political intimidation and abuse of power, weaponization against her.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Just like they, you know, Trump said what happened to him.
- 5:53Speaker 3: The official, the difference is Trump didn't do anything. He
- 5:56Speaker 3: was literally president and had presidential immunity and went to
- 5:59Speaker 3: the Supreme Court and got cleared of everything. She's not
- 6:01Speaker 3: going to get cleared of everything. Now, she may get
- 6:03Speaker 3: an ethics complaint that, you know, looks ugly. You know,
- 6:07Speaker 3: I would say the best case scenario here is one
- 6:10Speaker 3: like the. The one that happened with Matt Gaetz, right?
- 6:14Speaker 3: Where he said, I didn't do this. And they said, well,
- 6:16Speaker 3: it looks like you did that and blah, blah, blah.
- 6:17Speaker 3: And then he ended up resigning. I think that might
- 6:20Speaker 3: be the case here with Omar. And again, if that's
- 6:23Speaker 3: what it takes to get her out, that's what it takes.
- 6:26Speaker 3: But I don't know. Do we get her perp walked?
- 6:28Speaker 3: Are we going to see her walking in handcuffs because
- 6:31Speaker 3: she married her brother? Is she going to get deported
- 6:33Speaker 3: and sent back to Somalia? Man, if all of that
- 6:37Speaker 3: could happen before Election Day.
- 6:40Speaker 5: Please.
- 6:41Speaker 3: But I don't think that's going to happen. But that's
- 6:44Speaker 3: what she's saying, right? So we're going to dig into
- 6:46Speaker 3: the details, the reactions, and everything else as this develops.
- 6:48Speaker 3: I'm going to call my buddy Doug Burns to get
- 6:50Speaker 3: some analysis from him.
- 6:51Speaker 5: Maybe not tonight.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get Doug Burns on tomorrow. We're also going
- 6:54Speaker 3: to get the political reaction from Professor Nick Giordano. That's
- 6:57Speaker 3: going to be coming up in the next couple of
- 6:59Speaker 3: days as well. But I want to talk about the
- 7:01Speaker 3: midterms with him as well. So once we get him,
- 7:04Speaker 3: maybe for the Tuesday night or the Wednesday night show.
- 7:07Speaker 5: But meanwhile.
- 7:08Speaker 3: President Trump wishing Americans and Italian Americans a happy Columbus Day.
- 7:13Speaker 3: El Trumpito Donaldis Magnus, the 45th and 47th president of
- 7:17Speaker 3: these United States. El Presidente Donald Trump. And he put
- 7:22Speaker 3: out a message celebrating this, right? Signing an executive order
- 7:28Speaker 3: in the Oval Office. No lectures, just gratitude, right? For
- 7:31Speaker 3: the discovery that led to the freest, most opportunity-rich nation
- 7:34Speaker 3: on this earth.
- 7:36Speaker 5: America, listen to this.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Today we have your Columbus Day proclamation for Monday, which
- 7:43Speaker 1: we're signing a bit early. Christopher Columbus obviously discovered the
- 7:48Speaker 1: New World in 1492. He was a great Italian explorer.
- 7:54Speaker 1: He sailed his three ships, the Nina, the Pinta, and
- 7:56Speaker 1: the Santa Maria, across the Atlantic Ocean and landed in
- 7:59Speaker 1: what's today the Caribbean. But this is a particularly important
- 8:03Speaker 1: holiday for Italian-Americans who celebrate the legacy of Christopher Columbus
- 8:08Speaker 1: and the innovation and explore zeal that he represented.
- 8:12Speaker 5: In other words, we're calling it Columbus Day.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:16Speaker 8: That was the.
- 8:24Speaker 2: press that broke out.
- 8:25Speaker 8: In applause i've never seen that happen the press actually
- 8:33Speaker 8: broke out in applause good columbus day we're back columbus
- 8:38Speaker 8: day we're back italians today we.
- 8:41Speaker 3: We are back we are back italians you gotta love
- 8:44Speaker 3: el trumpito at least i do i think he uh
- 8:46Speaker 3: always delivers things cheerfully celebrates things and he's celebrating he's
- 8:49Speaker 3: such a good politician in my opinion Um, I know
- 8:52Speaker 3: a lot of people take exception to that. They think, Oh,
- 8:55Speaker 3: you're a bootlicker. You're this and you're that. But I
- 8:57Speaker 3: gotta say, look now, do I like this? Um, gas price?
- 9:00Speaker 3: I do not, sir. Let me send him a quick note.
- 9:04Speaker 5: El Trumpito. No more gas prices. Let's go. We need
- 9:08Speaker 5: them lower, but it doesn't work like that, right? That's
- 9:10Speaker 5: not the world we live in.
- 9:11Speaker 3: We lived under $ 5 gas prices with Joe El Babo.
- 9:14Speaker 3: So Biden, and we're doing it at around four. I
- 9:16Speaker 3: think I got my gas for $ 4 and 7 cents. Um, Listen,
- 9:22Speaker 3: it is what it is, right? My hope is that
- 9:25Speaker 3: this will come to an end sooner rather than later.
- 9:26Speaker 3: We'll see $ 1. 99 before we know it. I don't have
- 9:31Speaker 3: a fortune teller machine. I don't have a crystal ball.
- 9:33Speaker 3: I don't have any of those things. But I do
- 9:35Speaker 3: know that El Trompito is a heck of a lot
- 9:38Speaker 3: better than having a presidency led by Que Mala Eres.
- 9:43Speaker 3: And that was the alternative. Let's not forget that for
- 9:46Speaker 3: a second. Not for a second should we ever forget that.
- 9:49Speaker 3: It's incredibly important to remember that because That would have
- 9:52Speaker 3: been a joke. And things are bad, but they're not
- 9:55Speaker 3: that bad. People are tightening their belts, that's for sure.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Gas gets high, people don't want to go out as much.
- 10:00Speaker 3: They don't want to go to the bar as much.
- 10:02Speaker 3: They don't want to go to the restaurants as much.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:04Speaker 5: Depending on your your disposable income.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Right.
- 10:07Speaker 3: I think, you know, the people that are in the
- 10:08Speaker 3: upper six figures, they're like, hey, look, all right, maybe
- 10:12Speaker 3: I'll have a couple of more chicken dishes and steak dishes.
- 10:15Speaker 3: And they might hold back a little bit in those
- 10:16Speaker 3: areas trying to mitigate, you know, their spending. But people
- 10:19Speaker 3: who are making $ 65, 000, $ 70, 000 a year, I think this
- 10:23Speaker 3: is hitting them a lot. And the young people that
- 10:25Speaker 3: are making $ 45, 000, $ 50, 000 a year, they're crushed by this, right?
- 10:30Speaker 5: And this is literally a serious blow to young people.
- 10:34Speaker 5: And I happen to have some young people in my
- 10:36Speaker 5: home and in my life.
- 10:39Speaker 3: So, you know, with daughters that are 21 and 25,
- 10:41Speaker 3: these are things that matter, right?
- 10:44Speaker 5: To young people that are coming up and to their friends.
- 10:46Speaker 5: I talk to people. I hear things. So, this is
- 10:49Speaker 5: a serious matter.
- 10:50Speaker 3: And this is why Zoran Mamdani does well when he
- 10:52Speaker 3: talks about affordability and saving this and saving that because
- 10:55Speaker 3: they want to have a fighting chance. And the reality
- 10:57Speaker 3: is when I was 21 years old, I was already
- 11:00Speaker 3: opening my second business.
- 11:01Speaker 5: And guess what? No lie.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I had two brand new cars. I had an SUV
- 11:06Speaker 3: and a sports car. Both of them were, uh, financed.
- 11:10Speaker 3: I had a car note on each of them back
- 11:12Speaker 3: when the car note was like 300 bucks a month.
- 11:15Speaker 5: Actually, one of them was even more than that. And, um,
- 11:17Speaker 5: And they were pretty nice cars, too.
- 11:20Speaker 3: I had an Eddie Bauer Edition Ford Expedition, a 1999 bottle.
- 11:26Speaker 3: And I had a year 2000 model, brand new. It
- 11:30Speaker 3: was still 1999 when I bought it. I bought the
- 11:33Speaker 3: 2000 Chrysler, what is that called?
- 11:38Speaker 5: Sebring.
- 11:39Speaker 3: It was black and it had beige leather interior, two doors. Man,
- 11:43Speaker 3: it was a sweet ride. Very, very nice car. And yeah,
- 11:47Speaker 3: one was for the weekends. The other one was for
- 11:49Speaker 3: everyday use. I had a barbershop and then I had
- 11:51Speaker 3: a cell phone place. I was an authorized dealer on
- 11:54Speaker 3: a very busy road called Bergen Line Avenue. So I was,
- 11:57Speaker 3: you know, transporting boxes filled with phones and accessories and
- 12:01Speaker 3: things like that. So in my mind, I needed a
- 12:03Speaker 3: huge seven-passenger SUV to do that. And I've never stopped
- 12:08Speaker 3: driving since then, a huge seven-passenger SUV. But my point
- 12:13Speaker 3: in saying all that is that was the life I
- 12:15Speaker 3: had at 21, not going to college. I started going
- 12:18Speaker 3: to college while I was in business for myself. I
- 12:21Speaker 3: went to NYU to study business. So different life. That's
- 12:25Speaker 3: not happening today. Most kids are not opening a business
- 12:29Speaker 3: and buying two brand new cars. And I hope they're
- 12:30Speaker 3: not buying two brand new cars, right? They're one person.
- 12:33Speaker 3: That was a dumb thing for me to do. But,
- 12:35Speaker 3: you know, yum, dumb, full of, you know what they say.
- 12:37Speaker 3: So bottom line here is everybody's trying to have some fun.
- 12:42Speaker 3: And I get it, but that's not the case anymore. And,
- 12:45Speaker 3: you know, we see all these studies every now and
- 12:47Speaker 3: again about Gen Z drinking less. I'm thinking maybe they're
- 12:49Speaker 3: drinking less because they don't have as much money as
- 12:51Speaker 3: we did, right, to spend going to the bar.
- 12:53Speaker 5: And, again, it was cheaper then.
- 12:55Speaker 3: I remember buying beer, right, 32 ounces of beer, you know,
- 13:01Speaker 3: garbage beer. I don't want to say that on the air.
- 13:03Speaker 3: I shouldn't insult them. But back then it was more
- 13:05Speaker 3: affordable beer, natural ice. It was 99 cents for a
- 13:08Speaker 3: 32-ounce bottle, right? Yes, I drank that stuff. Not a lot,
- 13:13Speaker 3: but I drank it a little bit.
- 13:14Speaker 5: It was cheap. It was fun.
- 13:15Speaker 3: That's what everybody else was drinking. So that was me
- 13:18Speaker 3: at 21. That's not the case anymore. So I just
- 13:22Speaker 3: say that to stress to the members of our audience
- 13:25Speaker 3: that might be my age or older. It's not easy
- 13:29Speaker 3: for young people. And there's more young people behind them
- 13:33Speaker 3: that are going to be graduating high school. Hopefully they
- 13:35Speaker 3: know how to code. Hopefully they know about AI. But
- 13:40Speaker 3: It's not a cakewalk right now. So I'm hoping they
- 13:43Speaker 3: know how to invest and that they're taking advantage of
- 13:45Speaker 3: the stock market because crypto seems to be really stagnant lately.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Very stagnant. Gold looking good. Always moves up a little
- 13:52Speaker 3: bit when China starts trying to grab all of it.
- 13:54Speaker 3: CNBC reporting today that gold is the number one commodity
- 13:59Speaker 3: that China's been trying to snatch up because their housing
- 14:02Speaker 3: market is flailing. So sometimes you got to take a
- 14:07Speaker 3: page from the Chinese playbook. But I also want to
- 14:10Speaker 3: get into this because this is something that was important
- 14:12Speaker 3: to me. I mentioned to you on the last episode
- 14:16Speaker 3: that I was talking to my 21-year-old daughter. And it's funny,
- 14:20Speaker 3: both my daughters, I would say, are exactly like me.
- 14:23Speaker 3: So when you hear me talking about Bastiat or John
- 14:28Speaker 3: Locke or any of the folks from the Enlightenment, those
- 14:32Speaker 3: who are informed by the Enlightenment, the Tocqueville, etc., These
- 14:39Speaker 3: types of thinkers, and I get into that stuff. Of course,
- 14:42Speaker 3: that's the Mark Levin influence in my life. But that
- 14:46Speaker 3: side of me, that intellectual side that gets into the
- 14:48Speaker 3: theological look on life and that worldview, it's my oldest daughter.
- 14:52Speaker 5: She came out like that. She's very serious, very deep.
- 14:56Speaker 3: And then the funny side where I'm cracking jokes and
- 14:58Speaker 3: everything's funny to me and I'm a smart ass, that's
- 15:00Speaker 3: my younger daughter. And they both remind me so much
- 15:03Speaker 3: of me and I love them to death. But I
- 15:06Speaker 3: was talking to the younger one who went full-clad in
- 15:09Speaker 3: a Spider-Man outfit to the movie theater for the debut
- 15:14Speaker 3: of the Spider-Man film about a month ago. And that
- 15:18Speaker 3: Spider-Man film, New Day, it just... A brand new day,
- 15:21Speaker 3: excuse me. It just debuted on streaming just right before
- 15:25Speaker 3: the weekend. And it's had tremendous success, right? So this
- 15:29Speaker 3: is following its tremendous success at the box office.
- 15:32Speaker 5: Now, the character.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Frank Castle, or the Punisher, as you might know him,
- 15:37Speaker 3: was created in part by Marvel Comics creator Chuck Dixon.
- 15:41Speaker 3: Chuck Dixon tweeted, I think on Friday, is the Punisher
- 15:46Speaker 3: a Democrat? And I thought that was interesting for a
- 15:49Speaker 3: comic book person. So, turns out the legendary comic book
- 15:54Speaker 3: writer from Marvel and other comics, Chuck Dixon, he is
- 15:58Speaker 3: an exiled conservative from Hollywood, right? He spoke out about
- 16:01Speaker 3: a lot of things, and now he's He's like many
- 16:04Speaker 3: conservatives that Hollywood has on their blacklist. But that didn't
- 16:08Speaker 3: happen before he did some major things in the comic
- 16:11Speaker 3: book world, like being part of the development team for Punisher,
- 16:16Speaker 3: being part of the Spider-Man franchise where he created an
- 16:21Speaker 3: entire character named Bane. That's him, Chuck Dixon. And he's
- 16:26Speaker 3: going to weigh in on this leftward surge in Hollywood
- 16:29Speaker 3: and comic books. He's joining me in the next segment.
- 16:32Speaker 3: And he's going to tell us what it was like
- 16:33Speaker 3: working with Stan Lee and others from the streets of
- 16:37Speaker 3: the New York pages of Marvel Comics to Hollywood to
- 16:41Speaker 3: everywhere in between. So some real talk, some real storytelling
- 16:44Speaker 3: about the culture and everything that goes along with it.
- 16:48Speaker 3: And I thought it was just fascinating that he's a
- 16:50Speaker 3: conservative and he could give us that unique take on it.
- 16:53Speaker 3: So keep it locked right here. There is more to
- 16:54Speaker 3: come straight ahead. I'm Rich Valdez coming up with Chuck Dixon.
- 16:58Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere.
- 16:59Speaker 4: This is America. This is America. He's got the best
- 17:15Speaker 4: head of hair in podcasting. This is America with Rich Valdez.
- 17:20Speaker 3: All right, familia, welcome back. It's Rich Valdez, Valdez with
- 17:23Speaker 3: an S. Happy to be here with you and our guest,
- 17:25Speaker 3: Chuck Dixon. You probably know the name if you're a
- 17:27Speaker 3: comic book person because Chuck Dixon is a legend in
- 17:30Speaker 3: the comic book game. He's from Marvel. He's done a
- 17:32Speaker 3: lot of comic book work over the years and we're
- 17:34Speaker 3: going to talk about his history. But Most famously, he's
- 17:37Speaker 3: worked on Spider-Man. He created the character for Punisher in
- 17:41Speaker 3: large part and Bane and so many other things that
- 17:45Speaker 3: he's done. And we're going to talk about that on
- 17:47Speaker 3: the heels of the streaming release of the new Spider-Man movie.
- 17:51Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the upcoming Avengers release. And
- 17:54Speaker 3: I want to zone in right now on a tweet.
- 17:56Speaker 3: I saw a tweet yesterday talking about, is Punisher a Democrat?
- 18:00Speaker 3: And it's funny because I saw the Punisher movie, the
- 18:02Speaker 3: one that was on Netflix, and I thought, this guy's
- 18:05Speaker 3: a patriot through and through. He's got to be a
- 18:06Speaker 3: conservative Republican. But I want to know, was it tongue-in-cheek, Chuck?
- 18:10Speaker 3: What was going on?
- 18:11Speaker 2: And welcome. Oh, hey, thank you. Thanks for having me on, Rich. Yeah,
- 18:15Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's partially clickbait, but I did discuss,
- 18:20Speaker 2: somebody asked me about the Punisher's politics. And largely the
- 18:25Speaker 2: answer is he's not political. If anything, he's a libertarian. Yeah.
- 18:31Speaker 2: But on the spectrum, he's more of a Giuliani guy
- 18:34Speaker 2: than a Mamdani guy.
- 18:35Speaker 5: We probably all should be that guy.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's true. Well, look at the results. So, yeah,
- 18:44Speaker 2: we should all be more Giuliani.
- 18:45Speaker 5: They speak for themselves.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Yeah. So.
- 18:49Speaker 5: All right.
- 18:49Speaker 2: So.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Uh, what, what made you think that this would go
- 18:52Speaker 3: over well in comic book world? Because, you know, in
- 18:54Speaker 3: my world as a conservative commentator in the broadcast world,
- 18:58Speaker 3: that goes fine, but not everybody's in my world, right?
- 19:01Speaker 3: I realized I live in a little bubble and maybe
- 19:03Speaker 3: you live in a bubble too, but I would have
- 19:05Speaker 3: always thought, you know, Disney owns Marvel now, uh, RIP
- 19:08Speaker 3: to Stan Lee. This is something that as a kid,
- 19:11Speaker 3: I grew up as a comic book guy. I was
- 19:12Speaker 3: more of a GI Joe guy than anything. They weren't
- 19:14Speaker 3: the highest value, but, but I just loved it. I
- 19:16Speaker 3: was a Patriot since I was a little kid and
- 19:18Speaker 3: I loved that.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Right.
- 19:20Speaker 3: And, um, and I had some, some old Spider-Man, I
- 19:22Speaker 3: love Spider-Man, but, um, this, this has evolved, right? It's,
- 19:27Speaker 3: you know, I, I asked my kid yesterday, she's a girl,
- 19:29Speaker 3: she's 21 and she loves these Marvel, Marvel movies. And
- 19:33Speaker 3: I said, I wonder if, uh, Marvel comics are still
- 19:36Speaker 3: selling like in print form. And she's like, I don't
- 19:38Speaker 3: think they do that, dad. They just make huge movies.
- 19:41Speaker 3: And I thought, I was like, I don't know, that's
- 19:43Speaker 3: kind of their bread and butter. Uh, but the point
- 19:45Speaker 3: was it's evolved to somewhere where, you know, this used
- 19:48Speaker 3: to be when I was a kid, they were, I
- 19:49Speaker 3: think there were 50 cents or 35 cents. And then
- 19:52Speaker 3: they went up from there to whatever they went up to.
- 19:54Speaker 3: And I don't know what they cost today, but what
- 19:58Speaker 3: is this evolution looked like? And what made you think
- 20:01Speaker 3: that you could make a comment like that and get
- 20:02Speaker 3: away with it with big Hollywood looking down at you?
- 20:06Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, I never concerned myself much
- 20:10Speaker 2: with big Hollywood. I mean, I talk a lot about
- 20:13Speaker 2: film producers and studio heads and stuff like that. Um,
- 20:16Speaker 2: and the mistakes they make and all that, even though
- 20:19Speaker 2: I'm in the mix with them. Uh, but the thing
- 20:22Speaker 2: is that you can talk about how stupid a producer
- 20:25Speaker 2: is and he's saying to himself, well, he's not talking
- 20:27Speaker 2: about me. Uh, But, you know, that said, you know,
- 20:34Speaker 2: I work with some smart people, too, but there's an
- 20:36Speaker 2: awful lot of dummies out there. But, yeah, I don't
- 20:38Speaker 2: think anybody would notice me. I'm small fry. I'm comic
- 20:44Speaker 2: book famous, which is below jazz famous.
- 20:47Speaker 5: OK, I'll take it.
- 20:49Speaker 3: So in the comic book world, in that bubble, you
- 20:52Speaker 3: felt like there wouldn't be much blowback or maybe you're
- 20:55Speaker 3: just known for that. And it was like, yeah, it's
- 20:57Speaker 3: just Chuck Dixon being Chuck Dixon.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I get a lot of feedback on this stuff.
- 21:02Speaker 2: I mean, hell, you go on the Internet and say,
- 21:05Speaker 2: I love kittens. And five posts later, you're being called
- 21:08Speaker 2: a racist. So, you know, that's that environment. You guys
- 21:12Speaker 2: have to ignore that. But, yeah, I mean, I've gotten
- 21:14Speaker 2: in trouble for stuff I've said before. But, you know,
- 21:20Speaker 2: I felt I had to comment on the Punisher because,
- 21:22Speaker 2: you know, the movie and what Marvel has done to
- 21:24Speaker 2: the character in recent years. So and, you know, it's
- 21:28Speaker 2: an interesting question for any of these characters. Sure. Is
- 21:33Speaker 2: Superman a Democrat or Republican? You know, any of these characters,
- 21:36Speaker 2: where would they fall on the spectrum?
- 21:38Speaker 3: Well, I guess it opens up the conversation to is
- 21:41Speaker 3: what we grew up with, the characters we grew up
- 21:43Speaker 3: with and the America we grew up with. Is that
- 21:46Speaker 3: still the America today? And have we seen a liberalization,
- 21:50Speaker 3: if you will, of these characters? And I would say
- 21:54Speaker 3: Disney's definitely even admitted to doing that. trying to make
- 21:57Speaker 3: LGBTQ and 50% of their characters be part of that spectrum.
- 22:03Speaker 3: So do you think that's what happened with Marvel as well?
- 22:06Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvel and DC both have gone far left. There
- 22:11Speaker 2: was sort of a void in the early 2000s where
- 22:14Speaker 2: you had a lot of editors who were indifferent to comics.
- 22:16Speaker 2: They saw comics as a stepping stone to another career.
- 22:20Speaker 2: And that left the door open for a lot of
- 22:22Speaker 2: left-wing activists to move into the comic book space. And
- 22:26Speaker 2: you've got, I mean, now you've got the Punisher. They
- 22:29Speaker 2: basically humiliated him and driven him out of the comics.
- 22:34Speaker 2: They made him look like a fool. You have a
- 22:36Speaker 2: version of Batman at DC who's fighting ice agents. I mean,
- 22:41Speaker 2: this is, you know, it's gone beyond the pale. And
- 22:45Speaker 2: it's reflected in sales. I mean, nobody wants to read
- 22:47Speaker 2: comics that make them feel bad. So sales have plummeted.
- 22:50Speaker 3: Well, you talked about a career that some people have
- 22:55Speaker 3: used as a stepping stone and it makes me think, um,
- 23:00Speaker 3: let's talk about your career, right?
- 23:01Speaker 5: Because so many people want to be a comic book person.
- 23:05Speaker 5: They're drawing. I did.
- 23:06Speaker 3: I had a book that I got at the Brooklyn
- 23:07Speaker 3: public library. I remember I was like 11 years old.
- 23:09Speaker 3: Maybe no, I was like seven years old. And I
- 23:13Speaker 3: remember getting this book and it taught me how to like,
- 23:15Speaker 3: you know, draw the shapes and then draw the muscles
- 23:17Speaker 3: and the stick figures that you expand into a character.
- 23:20Speaker 3: It was called How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way.
- 23:23Speaker 5: I loved it. It was a great book.
- 23:25Speaker 3: And and I didn't want to be a comic book illustrator.
- 23:27Speaker 3: I was just such a fan of comic books. I
- 23:29Speaker 3: thought that's so cool. But my point is people grow
- 23:32Speaker 3: up wanting to do they love baseball. They want to
- 23:34Speaker 3: be a baseball player. And here you are, a guy
- 23:37Speaker 3: that's created characters in comic books, have been in this
- 23:42Speaker 3: business for decades, and they're blaming part of the Punisher
- 23:47Speaker 3: storyline on you. They're blaming Bane on you. You're getting
- 23:50Speaker 3: blamed for a lot of good stuff over here. Take
- 23:52Speaker 3: the credit, right?
- 23:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:54Speaker 5: What was that story like, you living your dream?
- 23:57Speaker 2: Well, I just never wanted to do anything else. I
- 24:00Speaker 2: wanted to work in comics. I wanted to be an artist,
- 24:03Speaker 2: but I wasn't disciplined enough. So, of course, I became
- 24:05Speaker 2: a writer where you don't need any discipline and and
- 24:09Speaker 2: just making stuff up. And I just aimed myself at
- 24:14Speaker 2: that job. I had no plan B. And I, you know,
- 24:19Speaker 2: by the grace of God, I got into it and
- 24:21Speaker 2: I've been doing it now for 40 years and I
- 24:23Speaker 2: love it. And it's all I've ever wanted to do.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I mean, I've written novels. I've written a little bit
- 24:27Speaker 2: for the movies, but comics are my first love. Always
- 24:30Speaker 2: will be just in my DNA.
- 24:33Speaker 5: How did it start?
- 24:34Speaker 3: Were you into comics as a kid? Where did you
- 24:36Speaker 3: grow up? I want to get the full picture.
- 24:40Speaker 2: I grew up in Philadelphia, Philadelphia and the Philadelphia suburbs.
- 24:44Speaker 2: And I was sick a lot as a kid, which
- 24:47Speaker 2: is the origin story for a lot of comic book writers.
- 24:51Speaker 2: And so I was sick a lot as a kid and,
- 24:54Speaker 2: and people would bring me comic books to help the
- 24:56Speaker 2: while away the time when I was in the hospital
- 24:59Speaker 2: or whatever. And I just, climbed onto them. They, I
- 25:04Speaker 2: just fell in love with the medium of comics. I mean,
- 25:07Speaker 2: I love the characters too, but I just love that
- 25:10Speaker 2: sequential storytelling. I love the art. I love the dynamism
- 25:13Speaker 2: of it. I just love the whole vibe of comics.
- 25:16Speaker 2: And so I just aimed myself at that. I mean, I,
- 25:21Speaker 2: at school, I was only interested in things that would
- 25:23Speaker 2: help me get into comics.
- 25:26Speaker 3: How did you get your big break? Did you start
- 25:28Speaker 3: working at a comic book store? Did you grow up
- 25:30Speaker 3: going to comic con as a kid?
- 25:33Speaker 2: I went to comic book conventions. I met editors. I pitched.
- 25:37Speaker 2: I did this. I did that. I worked a lot
- 25:39Speaker 2: of dead-end jobs. I didn't go to college. I drove
- 25:42Speaker 2: an ice cream truck. I was a security guard. I
- 25:45Speaker 2: was a janitor. You know, anything to pay the rent.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Anything to pay the bills so you could pursue your dream.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Exactly. And then I would make runs up to Marvel
- 25:53Speaker 2: and DC for years and years. And then finally, I
- 25:56Speaker 2: got a break from a company in California called Eclipse
- 25:59Speaker 2: to write a title called Airboy. And almost within two weeks,
- 26:03Speaker 2: got a break, got my first work at Marvel through
- 26:06Speaker 2: Larry Hama, who worked a lot on G.I. Joe, which
- 26:09Speaker 2: you're very familiar with. Of course. Yeah.
- 26:11Speaker 5: Legend.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Legend.
- 26:13Speaker 5: Very, very cool.
- 26:15Speaker 3: So now here you are 40 years later, you're seeing
- 26:18Speaker 3: these characters that, you know, you've been a very intimate
- 26:21Speaker 3: part of Punisher in the new Spider-Man movie in a
- 26:25Speaker 3: different way than you'd envisioned.
- 26:27Speaker 5: How does that make you feel? What are your thoughts
- 26:29Speaker 5: on that?
- 26:30Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. I mean, you know, creating Bane and
- 26:32Speaker 2: then see him go on to be a household name
- 26:34Speaker 2: where everyone knows who Bane is now. I mean, that's
- 26:37Speaker 2: that's kind of staggering. I'm looking right now across my
- 26:41Speaker 2: desk at like, you know, two dozen action figures of
- 26:45Speaker 2: Bane sitting here. And it's like I never thought that
- 26:49Speaker 2: would happen. And then, you know, with, you know, being
- 26:52Speaker 2: a part of, you know, the evolution of the Punisher series.
- 26:58Speaker 2: It's neat to see him in the movie. I saw
- 26:59Speaker 2: the movie. I liked him in the movie. I didn't
- 27:01Speaker 2: care for the TV series, but I liked him in
- 27:03Speaker 2: the movie.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Talk to me about, I guess, what the timeline looks
- 27:08Speaker 3: like for Bane starting in here to Bane being on
- 27:13Speaker 3: the page of a comic.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we were doing this big event called
- 27:18Speaker 2: Nightfall in which Batman gets his back broken. The animated
- 27:23Speaker 2: movies are on Amazon now. based on that event. And
- 27:28Speaker 2: we needed a bad guy to break Batman's back because
- 27:32Speaker 2: that was the whole point of the story. And I
- 27:36Speaker 2: was kind of assigned along with Graham Nolan, the artist,
- 27:39Speaker 2: to come up with this guy. And they very much
- 27:42Speaker 2: wanted him to have legs. They wanted him to last.
- 27:45Speaker 2: And it's hard to create a character like that. So
- 27:47Speaker 2: Graham and I put a lot of thought into it.
- 27:49Speaker 2: And it succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams because he's a
- 27:53Speaker 2: permanent member of Batman's Rogues Gallery, probably the first one
- 27:57Speaker 2: since maybe Catwoman to become a permanent member.
- 28:02Speaker 5: That is so cool. And from there, what doors open up?
- 28:08Speaker 3: How does your career take off from Bane through now?
- 28:12Speaker 5: What are some of the things that you're doing?
- 28:15Speaker 2: Just kind of slogging away doing comics. I just keep
- 28:18Speaker 2: writing comics. Uh, Bain brought me some degree of recognition, uh,
- 28:25Speaker 2: you know, uh, and then I, I, um, they made
- 28:30Speaker 2: a movie based on one of my novels, which, you know,
- 28:33Speaker 2: that gives you like 15 minutes of fame where you gotta,
- 28:35Speaker 2: you gotta, you know, get more work. So that's helped me.
- 28:38Speaker 5: Um, That's show business, right? 15 minutes of fame always
- 28:42Speaker 5: runs out. It's always time to get going.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you got to hit while they're
- 28:46Speaker 2: wondering who you are, you know, before they find out
- 28:49Speaker 2: who you are. And it's like, oh, they're curious. Who's
- 28:51Speaker 2: this guy? Who's this guy whose name I saw on
- 28:54Speaker 2: the credits? So that opened some doors for me and
- 28:58Speaker 2: some interesting projects. But it's always about comics with me. Yeah.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Amigos, we're on with Chuck Dixon. He is the inventor
- 29:06Speaker 3: of Bane and he's a comic creator. He's been in
- 29:10Speaker 3: this business for 40 years and we're coming right back
- 29:12Speaker 3: with him.
- 29:13Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere.
- 29:16Speaker 3: All right, amigos, welcome back. We continue the conversation with
- 29:18Speaker 3: Chuck Dixon. He is a 40-year veteran in Marvel Comics
- 29:24Speaker 3: and all sorts of comics. He's worked for a number
- 29:25Speaker 3: of companies. He is the creator of Bane from Batman fame.
- 29:30Speaker 3: as we discussed the Batman movie coming out on streaming
- 29:33Speaker 3: just a few days ago and following its theatrical release.
- 29:38Speaker 3: And I want to get into, in a moment, the
- 29:39Speaker 3: upcoming release of the the next Avengers film because those
- 29:44Speaker 3: are always blockbusters and let's let's talk a little bit
- 29:48Speaker 3: about that your thoughts on on the how this is
- 29:52Speaker 3: blown up right and we talked about it a little
- 29:54Speaker 3: bit before on how it was once a comic, now
- 29:57Speaker 3: it's blockbuster theater films.
- 29:59Speaker 5: And I mean blockbuster.
- 30:01Speaker 3: They release them on Wednesdays and people are making lines outside.
- 30:04Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, you don't see that in Brad
- 30:06Speaker 3: Pitt movies, right? These are huge things. Talk to me
- 30:10Speaker 3: about that. I think it's amazing to be a part
- 30:12Speaker 3: of something that's that big.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when I was a kid reading Marvel comics, particularly,
- 30:18Speaker 2: you know, I thought they were really cool. I mean,
- 30:20Speaker 2: they really spoke to me. I thought there was a
- 30:22Speaker 2: lot of heart there and humor. and everything else, and
- 30:26Speaker 2: I could easily have seen them back then becoming movies.
- 30:29Speaker 2: I mean, to me, they were full-blown epics. And it
- 30:34Speaker 2: took a while, but what I loved about them, now millions,
- 30:40Speaker 2: possibly a billion people love those same stories. I remember
- 30:44Speaker 2: going to see the first Spider-Man movie in a theater,
- 30:49Speaker 2: and when Uncle Ben gets shot, the audience was stunned.
- 30:53Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, this is the reaction I had
- 30:56Speaker 2: when I read this when I was 10. These people
- 31:00Speaker 2: have never seen this story. They didn't know this story.
- 31:03Speaker 4: Right.
- 31:04Speaker 2: And that's what's going on. The sad part for me
- 31:08Speaker 2: is it doesn't translate into greater comic book sales. Right.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's a new world. I mean, my background's
- 31:15Speaker 3: in radio. And as much as I love radio, and
- 31:17Speaker 3: radio is a beautiful thing.
- 31:19Speaker 5: They don't see you. You don't see them. They're in
- 31:20Speaker 5: the car. They're driving. It's very live. Right.
- 31:24Speaker 3: These mediums where you do see people and you stream
- 31:26Speaker 3: it and you could see it whenever you want the on-demand, uh,
- 31:29Speaker 3: functionality of it is really the future. And you kind
- 31:32Speaker 3: of got to go with the times.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's true, but I just wish people would
- 31:37Speaker 2: go back and look at the source material.
- 31:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 31:40Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, when the Lord of the Rings
- 31:42Speaker 2: movies came out, uh, people went back and read the novels,
- 31:45Speaker 2: you know, the novels became bestsellers again. Uh, but that
- 31:49Speaker 2: doesn't happen with comics. I think that's part of the
- 31:51Speaker 2: fall is the comic book companies. They don't put themselves
- 31:54Speaker 2: out there enough. Right.
- 31:56Speaker 4: Right.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:57Speaker 5: That's an interesting point.
- 31:59Speaker 3: Now in your career, I'm sure you've worked alongside a
- 32:02Speaker 3: lot of people that are legendary. You talked about Hama earlier,
- 32:07Speaker 3: but who is the standout person that you've had a
- 32:10Speaker 3: chance to work with that really was like, wow, that
- 32:14Speaker 3: guy is a G.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Oh man, there's so many. And if I make a list,
- 32:18Speaker 2: I'm going to leave people off and they're going to
- 32:20Speaker 2: be mad at me. But You know, I'm a longtime
- 32:22Speaker 2: collaborator with Graham Nolan. He helped create Bane, co-created Bane,
- 32:27Speaker 2: I should say, in case he's listening. But I got
- 32:32Speaker 2: to work with Joe Kuber, who used to work on
- 32:34Speaker 2: Sergeant Rock. I worked with John Buscema, who drew Conan
- 32:38Speaker 2: the Barbarian for a long time. So I've gotten to
- 32:41Speaker 2: work with guys that I literally idolized when I was
- 32:44Speaker 2: a kid.
- 32:46Speaker 5: Any mentors that you've had?
- 32:49Speaker 2: Well, Archie Goodwin, he edited at Marvel in D.C. Larry Hama,
- 32:54Speaker 2: very much so a mentor. He gave me a lot
- 32:57Speaker 2: of great advice early on. And I worked with Denny O'Neill,
- 33:01Speaker 2: who is a legendary editor on Batman. He's the man
- 33:05Speaker 2: who rescued Batman from from camp obscurity in the early 70s. And,
- 33:12Speaker 2: you know, and I've met a lot of legends. I
- 33:14Speaker 2: met Steve Ditko, who created Spider-Man. I met Jack Kirby,
- 33:17Speaker 2: who created the Hulk and Fantastic Four. And I worked
- 33:20Speaker 2: with Stan Lee a little bit on a couple of projects.
- 33:23Speaker 5: What was that like?
- 33:25Speaker 2: He was awesome. He was awesome. He was, you know,
- 33:28Speaker 2: I'm an old guy now, but he was he was
- 33:31Speaker 2: older than I was in his 80s.
- 33:33Speaker 5: He's been old my whole life. God rest his soul.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Yeah, he was still with it. He was still with it.
- 33:38Speaker 2: And he gave me the greatest compliment I've ever gotten.
- 33:41Speaker 2: We were on a conference call with a bunch of guys,
- 33:43Speaker 2: and everybody's putting their two cents in. And Stan says, ah,
- 33:48Speaker 2: leave Chuck alone. He knows what he's doing. I'm like, oh, wow.
- 33:52Speaker 5: That's great.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Stan Lee said I knew what I was doing. I
- 33:55Speaker 2: was impossible to live with that afternoon.
- 33:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet. I bet.
- 33:59Speaker 3: I once got a compliment like that from Mark Levin,
- 34:01Speaker 3: the great one. And it was a backhanded compliment. I
- 34:06Speaker 3: hosted his show. He was out sick and he chose me.
- 34:08Speaker 3: And I said, sir, I want to thank you for
- 34:09Speaker 3: having me on. And he said, you know, Richie, I
- 34:12Speaker 3: wouldn't pick you if you weren't any good.
- 34:13Speaker 5: And I was like, Mark Levin just said I was good.
- 34:15Speaker 5: I'm holding it to it.
- 34:18Speaker 2: The backhanded compliments are the best ones.
- 34:20Speaker 5: The best one because, you know, it's honest.
- 34:22Speaker 4: Yep.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Yep. Yep. Yeah. He don't want somebody in there screwing
- 34:25Speaker 2: his show up.
- 34:26Speaker 5: Oh, for sure. So. So you've gotten these accolades. You're
- 34:30Speaker 5: doing your thing.
- 34:31Speaker 3: You've got projects coming out at different times, different things.
- 34:35Speaker 3: What do we focus on next? What's cooking for you?
- 34:39Speaker 3: What can we promote?
- 34:40Speaker 2: Well, I'm working for a company called Ripoverse. I'm doing
- 34:44Speaker 2: a continuing series called The Horseman with an awesome artist,
- 34:47Speaker 2: Joe Bennett. I've got a new Western novel out on
- 34:52Speaker 2: Amazon called Gallows. Uh, and, um, I got, you know,
- 34:56Speaker 2: a whole bunch of, I'm, I'm always caught where I'm, I'm,
- 34:59Speaker 2: I've got like half a dozen projects I can't talk
- 35:02Speaker 2: about yet.
- 35:03Speaker 5: The good old NDA.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:05Speaker 2: I mean, I got a couple of movies, you know,
- 35:07Speaker 2: I've got some movie options out there and they've assigned screenwriters,
- 35:10Speaker 2: which means they actually tend to make the things. So nice.
- 35:13Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
- 35:15Speaker 3: Now, I guess we'll end on a, on a cultural note,
- 35:18Speaker 3: because we talked about how you said the whole industry
- 35:20Speaker 3: and I'll take it big where, Ronald Reagan was governor
- 35:25Speaker 3: of California. He was president of the Screen Actors Guild.
- 35:28Speaker 3: Back then, him and John Wayne, they thought they were
- 35:30Speaker 3: holding back communism from getting into Hollywood. That was before
- 35:36Speaker 3: I was born and when I was a kid. I
- 35:38Speaker 3: think the dam has broken and communism has made its
- 35:43Speaker 3: way in. What's your take on the status of Hollywood and,
- 35:49Speaker 3: in particular, comic books and And how do we navigate that?
- 35:55Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there's plenty of alternatives in the comic
- 35:57Speaker 2: book business. I mean, there's a lot of independent publishers.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I mean, my buddy, Graham Nolan, who I'm mentioning again,
- 36:03Speaker 2: he's like a one man shop. Him and his wife
- 36:05Speaker 2: run their own publishing company. He's doing very well with it.
- 36:08Speaker 2: So you, you know, A lot of us fled or
- 36:11Speaker 2: were kicked out. I mean, I was blacklisted, kicked out
- 36:15Speaker 2: of the main comic book publishers, DC and Marvel. So
- 36:19Speaker 2: we can't work there because of who we vote for.
- 36:23Speaker 2: And so we all made our own way. I mean,
- 36:28Speaker 2: and that's. I call it the garage band era of comics,
- 36:32Speaker 2: making our own comics and, and, and do doing very
- 36:37Speaker 2: well with it, doing very well with it. So, uh,
- 36:39Speaker 2: and you know, and you get the own copyright and
- 36:41Speaker 2: you get to make your own movie deals, your own
- 36:43Speaker 2: licensing deals. Uh, so it's actually turned out to be
- 36:46Speaker 2: a good thing for a lot of us.
- 36:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:48Speaker 5: And you know what?
- 36:49Speaker 3: And I think the comic book space is not alone.
- 36:51Speaker 3: There's a lot of filmmakers. You mentioned, um, Conan earlier,
- 36:55Speaker 3: and I was thinking about Hercules. I'd interviewed Kevin Sorbo.
- 36:58Speaker 3: He's out there making all sorts of independent films, doing
- 37:01Speaker 3: well for himself. Stephen Baldwin doing the same thing. So
- 37:04Speaker 3: there's hope after Hollywood, it seems.
- 37:07Speaker 2: Well, people don't want communism. They keep trying to sell
- 37:09Speaker 2: it to us, but we don't want to buy it.
- 37:11Speaker 4: Right.
- 37:12Speaker 2: Which is the, you know, that's encouraging. Good point.
- 37:16Speaker 5: Really good point.
- 37:17Speaker 3: All right, Chuck Dixon, if people want to find you
- 37:20Speaker 3: and learn more about you and buy your books, where
- 37:22Speaker 3: do they go?
- 37:23Speaker 5: Where do I send them?
- 37:24Speaker 2: Let's put my name in on Amazon. It's page after
- 37:27Speaker 2: page of my stuff.
- 37:28Speaker 5: Outstanding.
- 37:29Speaker 3: Chuck Dixon, that's with an X. Chuck, I want to
- 37:32Speaker 3: thank you for being here. Let everybody know how they
- 37:34Speaker 3: can find you on X or the other social media platforms.
- 37:37Speaker 2: Well, I'm on X. I'm on Facebook. I'm at ChuckDixonOfficial.com.
- 37:43Speaker 5: All right, that's the flagship.
- 37:44Speaker 2: I'm right there.
- 37:45Speaker 5: Thank you, brother. Godspeed to you. You're a gentleman, a scholar,
- 37:48Speaker 5: and a patriot, and I thank you for being here.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Okay. Thanks for having me. This was fun.
- 37:52Speaker 5: You got it. Take care.
- 37:54Speaker 4: This is America.