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Super Bowl Preview Show! (PST Episode 602) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's going on everybody. I wanted to let you know.
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  Speaker 1: This podcast episode was recorded on two days this week.
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  Speaker 1: First part of the show was recorded on Tuesday, February fourth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Our interview this week was recorded on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: February fifth, twenty twenty five. So by the time you
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  Speaker 1: hear this, some things may have changed here or there,
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  Speaker 1: but we hope you enjoyed the show. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports podcast show in the world. That's right over eleven
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  Speaker 1: and a half year strong. We got a great discussion
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  Speaker 1: coming your way about the world of Philly sports. Lots
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  Speaker 1: of story lines, a lot of teams doing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different things. We're gonna get into the Flyers and
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  Speaker 1: they made a trade. They made a trade, amazingly enough,
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  Speaker 1: Danny Briere made a a an instrumental trade, and it's
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  Speaker 1: really gonna determine in some ways where this team and
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  Speaker 1: organization go in the future. After that, we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: into some NBA and Sixers talk, and from there I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into our Super Bowl preview. Yes, the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, they're heading to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren gonna we heard my buddy Len Hunsicker Lynn.
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  Speaker 1: You heard the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl, right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if if you haven't heard. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why you're.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to this show because it doesn't seem like it
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  Speaker 3: would be an interest.
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  Speaker 1: Of yours exactly. I mean, it's the title of the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's our super Bowl preview show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like Philadelphia and I don't like sports, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't gonna listen the show anyway, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles are in the Super Bowl. What.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna miss your buddy. I know you got
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  Speaker 1: some person some stuff going on, but you know some
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  Speaker 1: of our buddy's going to be getting together with their
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  Speaker 1: families to watch the Super Bowl. Hopefully the Eagles are
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to get that get that second Lombardi Trophy.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you, though, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of wondering because like if you remember
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  Speaker 3: when when when you know, we were all together when they.
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  Speaker 1: Beat New England up at Penn Style yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and like that was that game was like
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  Speaker 3: a four hour heart attack for me. Yeah, if there
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  Speaker 3: was a Brown paperbag for me to hyperventilate it too.
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  Speaker 2: I would have had it.
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  Speaker 1: I remember looking at you at the in the bar
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  Speaker 1: and just being like, I don't know if he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: make it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not quite there in terms of my level
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  Speaker 3: of hatred.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the Chiefs as I was at that time with
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there is like like a certain part of
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  Speaker 3: me like it was with the Patriots, where it's like,
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  Speaker 3: come on, just don't lose.
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  Speaker 2: Don't lose to this team. Yeah, I know, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I wonder.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna know until the game actually
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  Speaker 3: kicks off, like how much.
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  Speaker 2: Of that I'm gonna feel?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I already know because I am tired of
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how any everybody get there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know anybody is that that listens to
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  Speaker 3: this show. But for me, if a team wins a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of times, I just get tired. Happened with the
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  Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors, you know, and name any dynasty after
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  Speaker 3: a while, just like okay, enough, like I can't I'm
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  Speaker 3: done with this. I'm done watching this because then they're
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  Speaker 3: on commercials all the time and all that, Just like okay,
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  Speaker 3: go away, and that's where that's where I've been there
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  Speaker 3: with Chiefs for a while, but especially now more so
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  Speaker 3: that they're playing my team again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, don't lose to these guys. I just
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  Speaker 2: I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I want I want State Farm to have to find
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  Speaker 3: more different people to do commercials.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot believe that you just mentioned that, because I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say, I cannot stand Andy Reid. I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe he agreed to do the fumble Rooski in
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  Speaker 1: his dumb face and his stupid fumble risky and.
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  Speaker 2: If if if a company is going to offer you a.
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  Speaker 3: Ton of money to do that, yeah, well I mean
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  Speaker 3: most people would take that. Yes, if if the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: somehow win this one and win another two, believe me,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna see Nick Sirianni bo jangling in some commercial
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  Speaker 3: for some company soon enough.
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  Speaker 2: You will.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think it'll be? Will we be yelling
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  Speaker 1: at people, you know, like just trying to own him
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  Speaker 1: as he's walking through the tunnel or something.
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  Speaker 2: And him and Big Dom will be doing some Italian thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure exactly. Get Big domind you know, get.
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  Speaker 2: Him into the fold doing some pizzads or something.
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  Speaker 1: You know right well, we're gonna get into some Eagles
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  Speaker 1: talking a little bit, everybody, But let's start off with
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  Speaker 1: this Philadelphia Flyers team. The Flyers, as many of us
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  Speaker 1: know who follows the team, have traded Joel Ferraby Morgan
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  Speaker 1: Frost to the cowb Flames for Jacob Peltier and Andre Kuzmenko.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Flyers are also going
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  Speaker 1: to get a twenty twenty five second round pick and
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  Speaker 1: also a twenty twenty eight seventh round pick. When this
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  Speaker 1: came through, I'm thinking to myself, my gosh, Danny Brier
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  Speaker 1: actually did it, Lynn, He actually made a significant trade
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  Speaker 1: that helped put this team, an organization into that next
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  Speaker 1: realm of the rebuild. Did this trade really help to
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  Speaker 1: clarify the future of the organization and the nature of
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  Speaker 1: the rebuild? I say that it has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: folks have been questioning it because, you know, we saw
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  Speaker 1: them tinkering around, We saw Danny Brier tinkering around last year,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just getting some guys out of the building
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  Speaker 1: that really weren't going to be you know, whether it
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  Speaker 1: was from a I don't say culture standpoint, but you
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  Speaker 1: just knew they weren't going to be on the team.
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  Speaker 1: We've all kind of been waiting to see. Okay, what's
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  Speaker 1: Danny Brier going to do? You know, is he going
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  Speaker 1: to try to get that center of the future. Is
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  Speaker 1: he going to try to you know, take some money
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  Speaker 1: off the books. And that's exactly what he did. He
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  Speaker 1: did that with this trade, and I think it is
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  Speaker 1: going to end up putting this team in a direction
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  Speaker 1: one that needed to go into from a financial standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: Getting Joel Ferraby and Morgan Frost off the books, It's
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  Speaker 1: going to allow them to play around a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in free agency this coming off season, and with that
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  Speaker 1: being said, puts them in a good direction, whether it
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  Speaker 1: is to get that center for the future. They've got
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  Speaker 1: some they got They've got three first round draft picks
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  Speaker 1: that are you know, gonna be right around the corner here.
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  Speaker 1: So overall, of course, I'm gonna miss Joel Ferrabi and
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  Speaker 1: Morgan I really am. I'm gonna miss especially Joel Farabi.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss him a ton, you know, a guy
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  Speaker 1: who all he wanted was John Tortorella's love. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: miss him. But I understand why the trade was done here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, what were your initial thoughts and reactions.
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  Speaker 2: I mean a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly, they're you know, they do have things they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to accomplish here, and one of them is kind of
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  Speaker 3: clearing the decks in terms of and I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I should have looked a little bit more in terms
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  Speaker 3: of who was out there maybe this offseason or even
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  Speaker 3: the one beyond that, in terms of like getting a
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  Speaker 3: legitimate star number one center, which is something that they need,
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  Speaker 3: something that they've coveted for a while. You know, you've
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  Speaker 3: got a guy in Kuzmenko whose money is coming off
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  Speaker 3: the books after this year, so that's going to clear
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  Speaker 3: some space. The NHL cap is finally, you know, post
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  Speaker 3: COVID finally supposed to go up substantially over the next
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  Speaker 3: couple of years. So that's something too in terms of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, everybody's going to have more money, but
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  Speaker 3: if the Flyers can kind of clear the decks of
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  Speaker 3: you know, some salary, it's just going to make them
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  Speaker 3: have that much more in terms of in terms.
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  Speaker 2: Of just money to play with.
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  Speaker 3: And the other thing is just like I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: knew Fra I don't know, it feels like Morgan Frost
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  Speaker 3: has been on the trade block for like two or
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  Speaker 3: three years straight at this point ten years. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean like that, that's something like he's always been
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  Speaker 3: seen as like a guy that Tortorello doesn't like, a
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  Speaker 3: guy that he wants to get out of here. But like,
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  Speaker 3: my thing is, like, Okay, these are two first round
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  Speaker 3: picks in Farrabee and Frost that.
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  Speaker 2: You've now shipped down.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, do we need to talk about
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  Speaker 3: the developmental because if you're shipping out two first round
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  Speaker 3: picks that didn't fit into your future, what does that
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  Speaker 3: say about your ail your ability to develop players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: That is a bit of a worry for me. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's there's certain there's certain you know, pluses
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  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. You know, because Meco is a
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  Speaker 3: guy that Mitchkoff has you know, has played with in
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  Speaker 3: the past of the KHL, he has familiarity with, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to hurt getting another guy that communicate
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  Speaker 3: can communicate with him because he's your star of the future.
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  Speaker 3: You want to make him more comfortable. So I get
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  Speaker 3: all that from that standpoint, But yeah, I think the
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  Speaker 3: main thing is the is the flexibility down the road,
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  Speaker 3: and I've been trying to make sure you can do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well I'm glad you said that there, because I think
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  Speaker 1: what this trade does most for the Flyers it gives
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  Speaker 1: them the theoretical ability to get into the acquisition game here.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, whether it's via free agency,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the whatever, the manner in which that acquisition game
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  Speaker 1: is now going to be able to be played by
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  Speaker 1: the Flyers. The front office had long been adamant in
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  Speaker 1: the past lend that this wasn't even an option for
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  Speaker 1: at least another calendar year. But now it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be an option this coming off season. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I like about it, because I do think it's it's
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a bit aggressive and.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe before too. I mean that's true until March seventh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we we've heard about you know, and
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  Speaker 3: maybe they don't get rid of them because I know
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  Speaker 3: they like him to an extent.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, how long have we heard about riskt
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  Speaker 2: the linen too? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know, so that does this by no stretch is
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  Speaker 3: like a thing of like, okay, we're done. I mean
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  Speaker 3: there's a long time. There's over a month between now
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  Speaker 3: and March seventh. Yes, you know, absolutely stuff could happen there.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And just to let folks know when Len and
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  Speaker 1: I are recording this, like I said right at the
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  Speaker 1: onset of the show before the music came in, Len
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  Speaker 1: and I recording Tuesday night, February fourth. At this point
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  Speaker 1: in time, we've got Peltier and Kuzmenko who aren't even
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  Speaker 1: on the team yet, even though this trade happened back
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  Speaker 1: Thursday last week. So here's here's what is actually happening. Here,
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  Speaker 1: here's what is actually happening. It's not a travel issue
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. It boils down to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that both Peltier and Kuzmenko need US work visas before
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  Speaker 1: they're allowed to play a game for a US based
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  Speaker 1: NHL team. Now, a U citizen wouldn't need a work visa,
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  Speaker 1: of course in this situation, but Peltia who is Canadian,
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  Speaker 1: and Kuzmenko, who's Russian, that's the issue here. The work
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  Speaker 1: visa process could have been expedited had either play or
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  Speaker 1: played for a US team in the past, but both
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  Speaker 1: players have spent their entire NHL careers playing for Canadian clubs. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: they never needed US paperwork in the past, that paperwork
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  Speaker 1: from the US government is now in the process of
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  Speaker 1: getting processed, and that's what the actual hold up is here,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, So I swear to God, some people
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  Speaker 1: online were like, well, there's our new government in the
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  Speaker 1: United States. They're holding it up. It's like Jesus Christ, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're not.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing though about that is, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're an NHL player, shouldn't and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what the processes in terms of this, but shouldn't that
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  Speaker 3: be like priority number one for your agent to get
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  Speaker 3: all And maybe you can't do this if you're playing
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  Speaker 3: for a Canadian team, maybe you can't amptively go and
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  Speaker 3: get that US visa just in case. But like you know,
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  Speaker 3: three quarters of the teams in the NHL are in America. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: eventually you are going to play in the United States.
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  Speaker 3: If you bounce around between two or three teams in
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  Speaker 3: your career, guess what, at some point one of those
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  Speaker 3: teams is going to be based in America. So like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's not something that you Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's a we have to wait until we get to
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  Speaker 3: that bridge before we cross it kind of deal. Maybe,
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  Speaker 3: But there's a part of me that's like if I
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  Speaker 3: was a Canadian citizen, like I would be bugging my
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  Speaker 3: agent like, hey, just in case I get traded, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: can we get this stuff done early?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. I'm not sure actually how that works, believe
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  Speaker 1: it or not. But like I said, you've read a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff on the interwebs out there, and we
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  Speaker 1: of course know this past week what has gone on
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  Speaker 1: between the United States and Canada, and people have their
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Now, folks, you know, yes, there may be
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  Speaker 1: some quote logical thought processes to that, but at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, you've got billionaires that want to
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  Speaker 1: get their players over to the United States or billionaires
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  Speaker 1: that want to get their players up to Canada. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen quickly. The process
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be expedited. I just don't think they It
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  Speaker 1: was a Thursday, was a terrible day to get this
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  Speaker 1: done in terms in terms of the in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the paperwork, and it being processed quite frankly, so, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just wanted to throw that out there
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, just to let folks know by the time
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  Speaker 1: people are hearing this. Uh, Peltier and chaus Manco, they
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  Speaker 1: might already be on the team. So that but that
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  Speaker 1: was what the hold up was at this point, Lend,
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  Speaker 1: do you have anything else for the flyers here before
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  Speaker 1: we head onto some sixers in NBA?
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  Speaker 3: Talk well to me again, you know cuz Manco. I
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  Speaker 3: maybe he'll be good. He was great as a rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he refines that you know, that form at some point.
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  Speaker 3: But to me, I look at him more as an
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  Speaker 3: expiring contract. Peltier, you know, could be something. Also that
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  Speaker 3: second round pick, Like you now have three first round
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  Speaker 3: picks and four second round You have seven picks in
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  Speaker 3: the first two rounds of this upcoming draft, So I
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  Speaker 3: wonder how that works out of it becomes like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we have our our first pick of the
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  Speaker 3: first round, but maybe we do like a little package
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  Speaker 3: of you know, maybe our our last first round pick
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  Speaker 3: including and some second round picks, and we use that
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  Speaker 3: to move up a little bit here in the in
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  Speaker 3: the first round of the draft. That that to me,
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  Speaker 3: it seems like I can't imagine they're going to take
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  Speaker 3: seven players in the first two rounds.
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  Speaker 1: Actually get that center of the future you never know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe or maybe maybe some of those picks get
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  Speaker 3: you know, thrown into a package for for a you know,
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  Speaker 3: a star center. That's certainly possibility as well. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I I would eat my shoe if if they use
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  Speaker 3: all seven of.
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  Speaker 2: Those first round picks, absolutely for two round picks. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's any way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like you're saying, who knows what Kuzmenco's future
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  Speaker 1: is going to be too, because you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: reading some stuff where many in the hockey world have
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  Speaker 1: been wondering about his potential fit with John Tortorella. You know,
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  Speaker 1: given Cuzmenco's playing style as well, didn't really seem to
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  Speaker 1: be a fit for the Tort's style of play, So
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  Speaker 1: who knows ale to work together.
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  Speaker 3: Going back to the whole thing with the two first
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  Speaker 3: round picks, it's just like, you know, if you're a
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  Speaker 3: coach that has a reputation of being rough on younger
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  Speaker 3: players and then you just and you ship out two
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  Speaker 3: guys that were former first round picks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so young.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, whether it's true or not, it
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  Speaker 3: kind of reinforces that stereotype, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: There was a whole thing the other night of you know,
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  Speaker 3: Tortorella and Mitchkalff kind of having an animated conversation on
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  Speaker 3: the bench with each other. It's just like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I can understand why there would be a
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  Speaker 3: certain segment of the Flyers fan base that sees that
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  Speaker 3: and goes, oh God, here we go again. He's gonna
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  Speaker 3: run off every promising young player that we have.
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  Speaker 1: Beach Cub's English that good were there? You know, is
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  Speaker 1: it got that good man?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to know that, to be honest with you, like,
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  Speaker 3: how much does he understand exactly?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Language yeah, you know, and has a certain look on
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  Speaker 3: their face, you probably, even if you don't know what
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  Speaker 3: they're saying, you probably are like, Okay, this guy's not
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  Speaker 3: happy with me. Like, I'm sure you can figure that
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  Speaker 3: out exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, good, good Flyers talk there. Let's uh
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  Speaker 1: move on to some NBA and some Sixers talk. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we have to get into it. I know we're a
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Philly sports based show, we don't always stick with Philly sports.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: We talk about various leagues, we talk about different storylines,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: whether it's the NFL, NBA, Major League baseball hockey as well.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We talked at Philadelphia Union and Just League soccer as well.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But we got a first len get into the Luca trade,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the Mavericks trading Luca to the Golden State Warriors. So
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the Mavericks traded Luka, Doncik Maxi Kleber uh uh Kleeber, MARRICKF. Morris,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I believe arkeif Morris, sorry, Marrakev, I can't. I can't read.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: His name. Isn't John White? So you ain't. You're gonna
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: have trouble with it?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, John White. We haven't heard that one in a while.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So the Lakers got those gentlemen in exchange for ten
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: time All Star Anthony Davis, as we know, Max Christy
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in a twenty twenty nine first round pick. We saw this,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: The world saw this and was like, oh, man, shams,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: he got he got he got hacked. Everybody was saying
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: he got hacked. There's no way this is going on.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Then we're like, oh, other other accounts must have gotten
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: hacked too. Oh wait, this is actually happening. This is
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: happening here, my god. Apparently the Utah Jazz were also
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: involved in the deal and took on the contract of
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: second year guard Jalen Jalen hood Scuffino or I think
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that's his name. Yeah, while getting landing two future second
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: round picks. Len I was absolutely amazed by this. I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was amazed by it in so many ways. And then
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: on our thread okay that we have going on with
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: our buddies, Eric said something tonight as I'm watching my
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: daughter at her karate training class, and he said, there's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a really good theory out there about the MAVs new
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: owner and how they want to tank the team in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: order to move them to Vegas because Texas isn't playing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: ball with their plans to create legal gambling in that state.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, I was like, there's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: some juice there. Now. I don't know if that is
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the case of why Luka Doncik was traded to the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. But this just reaked of something really
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: stinky and not just okay, Luca's not in shape. It's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a conditioning thing. It's not a great culture type of guy.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, this just kind of reeked of like
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: something else, possibly behind the scenes. I was absolutely shocked.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody was shocked. I'm sure you were shocked when you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: heard this news coming down, But like I just kind
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: of wonder what this means for like future trades too,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: not that other teams are gonna necessarily go this direction.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I think what Eric said actually may have some validity
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to it, because at the end of the day, billionaires
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: are billionaires, and they want to make money, and they
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: want to make even more billions. And Las Vegas it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is a growing market, certainly, not as large a market
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: as the Dallas market for sure, but there's new opportunities
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas for sports teams that we're seeing various
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: sports teams going there, whether it is the Raiders or
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it is you know, the Golden Knights
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: having you know, haven't seen some success there. So I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: don't know what are your thoughts here when it comes
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to the Luca trade and just like kind of what
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it means overall.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously I was very surprised.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can have an argument on where you
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: think Luca falls in the hierarchy of NBA players, but
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: he is, at the bare minimum a top ten player
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in the league. I would say he's top five, But
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: you know, even if you wanted to, you know, downgrade
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: him a little bit. You can't put him as less
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: than a top ten player in the league. You know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: he's a guy that took your team to the finals.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Just this last year.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, and you're getting rid of a twenty five year
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: old guy who is already one of the top ten
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: players in the league and took your team to the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: finals last year. Like, I think it's colossally dumb. Maybe
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: there is something to the whole thing, and maybe that's
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: why I'm not a billionaire and I don't understand finance.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: But like, to me, you're moving from the fourth biggest
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: TV market in Dallas Fort Worth in the country to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the fortieth in Las Vegas. Tell me how that makes sense.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And also you're a destination because Texas and maybe Nevada
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: doesn't as well. I don't know about Nevada, but I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: do know that Texas doesn't have state taxes and that's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: why people want to go there.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why people.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Go to Texas. And that's why people go to Florida.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: It's not just because the weather's warm, it's because they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: don't have to pay state taxes. So are you giving
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: that up? Are you giving up your your status as
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: a destination for free agents because you know, and maybe
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: billionaires don't care about that kind of thing, but if you're,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you know, thinking about building a team, man, that matters.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It should anyway, because that's a whole hook to get
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: people to sign with your team. So I don't know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe there's a lot of stuff in here
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that I don't see as somebody that's not.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: That business inclined or whatever. But it's just strange to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: me that theory. I don't know. I don't know to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: see more before I buy it exactly.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Look, I mean, there are front office personnel around the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: league that are baffled by the way Dallas handled this
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: entire thing, as we've read reports, you know, prioritizing discretion
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: over the process, and a great.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Article on ESPN about that, because and think about that,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: like when you heard about it, like whenever there's a trade,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: you know, the way sports media is, you usually know
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: when something's going down.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: This was all Cloak and Daggers.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: This came out of nowhere.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was and to to the point of
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the whole thing, Houston, who was the third team that
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was facilitating that that trade, you know, Danny Ainge, former Celtic,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you know, a long time rival of the Lakers runs Utah,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: and he didn't know until the last moment. He All
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: he knew was his team was facilitating there was a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: third party facilitating the seal. He didn't know who was
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: getting moved. He didn't know the teams that were involved.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I guarantee, if he knew that Luka Doncis was going
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: to the to the Lakers, his his art rival team,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: he probably would have said, I'm not going to help
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that happen, right exactly, you know, especially because it's LA
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a team that is, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: still in your conference, as if if he's you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: in charge of Utah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, why would why would he wanted to?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Just the amount of people that knew about this, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: mean is so small. Lebron didn't know about it. Lebron
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: constantly gets ragged on as being the shadow GM of
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the Lakers. He had no idea about it. That none
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of the parties involved knew about it. It was it was
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Dallas's GM, and it was Rob Polenka the Lakers GM.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Those are the only two really exactly if they didn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: get agents involved, like any of it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. Like I said, the cloak and dagger of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: this was incredible. By the way, I think I said
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the trade was with Did I say the trade was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with Golden State or did I say the Lakers?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like I don't even remember.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think I said it was with Golden State anyway,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right. Behind the scenes. Stuff is just
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: so crazy. You know, even if Harrison and the MAVs
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: thought they were getting ahead of some other trouble with
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: with Luca, like a potential opt out in twenty twenty six,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: all they've managed to do is speed right into the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: team's disillusion with no tangible benefit whatsoever.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: None, none, And maybe it was a savings thing because
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I and I Eric would be great to have on
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the show right now, because he really, as much as
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: he loves the finances, he follows the finances. And I
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: don't understand, but I know that Luca could if he
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: had remained with Dallas, would have been eligible for like
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: a three hundred and forty five million dollars super max deal.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Now he's been traded doing another team, He's only eligible
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: for a max of two hundred and twenty nine million.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But Dallas clearly, you know, if they had, if they
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: did have issues with his conditioning, you do worry about
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: giving three hundred and forty five million dollars to a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: guy who's conditioning you have to worry about.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I get that aspect of it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: But again, he took your team to the finals. I know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: like literally, not even nine months ago.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Not like he's thirty eight years old either, he's twenty five.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I know, he's twenty five.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Amazing, dude, this is crazy, It is crazy. But I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: guess we should move on to the Sixers talk and again, you.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Know, and we should mention the Sixers out of trade too.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: They have they have traded Caleb Martin, yes, you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: to to Dallas, speaking of Dallas, for Quentin Grimes and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: a second round pick.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they actually, you.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Know, regardless of what happens with what they do, you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: in the first round, they'll at least have a pick
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: this year or the draft.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: They will have a pick, yes, in the second round.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Let's say trade that way.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Who knows, right, and they may actually we know Daryl
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Morey loves trade, trading draft pies for sure, But look,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I mean this, this Sixers. The Sixers path at this point,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and especially before the trade deadline here as well, remains
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: very unclear. There are rumors that now the Golden State
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Warriors and even the Atlanta Hawks have expressed interest in
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: trading for Paul George. But my gosh, I mean, this
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: team entered the season hoping to compete for an NBA championship,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: but just a hellish year derailed by injuries and controversies. Here,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: apparently Golden State has really been inquiring about Paul George.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Not really a surprise, lend, because the Warriors made a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: push to land him last summer before he opted to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sign with the Sixers. I don't necessarily understand the Atlanta
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: angle with this and them having conversations about Paul George,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: considering they already have a strong foresome of wings basically
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: with a healthy mix of talents. But I mean, to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: get Paul George in that contract. Excuse me, He's on
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: a four year max deal worth well over two hundred
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: million dollars. To get that off the books and get
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: this team starting fresh, I mean, I it just sucks.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, the year just sucks. And I don't know, honestly,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I want them to do it
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: or not. It seems like it does make sense, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to get that money off the books kind of look
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: anew giving giving given the fact that what Paul what
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: is he thirty four at this point? Yeah, you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and and we see how he's been playing this year.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, what are your thoughts about this potential
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: potential trade and do you think Daryl Morey should pull
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the plug and do it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think with regard to Golden saying, I
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: think Paul George is the backup plan if they can't
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: get Durant or even if they want to talk to
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: the Lakers about Lebron. Yeah, I think those are the
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: first choices, and then if those kind of fall through,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: then they'll then they'll look at Paul George. I mean,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it sucks to say it because you know, you want
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: your team to do well and you want your team
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: to be relevant and stuff like that. But with the
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: way things are going, and look, I know they had
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: to spend the money on somebody, they had to make
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: a big splash and free agency, but Paul George is
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: a guy with the track record in terms of playing
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: forty some games a year, fifty some games year. This
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was always going to happen, especially the older he gets,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and they you've got mb'd who's on the wrong side
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: of thirty, and he is now a guy that like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: do you really believe he's going to play more than
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: half of a team's games in the season anymore? Do
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: you really have faith in any of that? So you
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: get to a point where you're like, you know, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: don't know. With those two guys, it's just like, are
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: are we really going to win a championship?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: As construct?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: How much longer should we keep dream about it? Like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Should it come to a point where it's like, Okay,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: it's not going to happen. We have to focus on
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: getting lucky in the lottery here and getting a top
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: six pick and hopefully getting you know, the high pick,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: hopefully getting you know, a Cooper Flag or a Dylan
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Harper or somebody like that. Like honestly, and I know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: no no Sixers fan is going to want to hear that,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: because you don't want to go back into the whole
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: tank thing, But like, Okay, we tried, it didn't work.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. With embid. It's just not
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, I'm I'm I've been at
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: that point since probably the back end.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Of last season, been there for a while now.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Once they lost in the playoffs, I was like, okay,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and then then he played in the Olympics, and then
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: he wasn't healthy to start the season. It's like, Okay,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: this is what it's to be. Because he's now thirty.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna find the fountain of youth and the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: fountain of health all of a sudden, right, It's not
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, that is a good place for us
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to uh end this first part of the show before
• 30:14
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• 30:34
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• 30:36
  Speaker 1: social media. Bless your soul, my friend, has it been.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: It's honestly like I.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Want to say, like I'm a lot less depressed because
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I was on Twitter and stuff like that. It just
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: you go online and it's just depressing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's a horrible platform.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: After after a.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: While, I mean, and you know you can do that
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: anywhare it. You can turn on the news and get depressed.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: It's just so you know, you really just have to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: take care of yourself and do what you can to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you know, not be that way. And getting off of
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: social media for a little bit has been kind of
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: that for me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm glad it's working for you folks
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: out there. I'm serious. I've actually been doing another podcast
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: with someone here in our Lehigh Valley region of Pennsylvania,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and we've been talking about mental health, believe it or not,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: on this podcast, and it's been great. It's been cathartic,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: been wonderful, and man, you gotta do it. You gotta
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: take a break from social media to get some mental
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: health help at times. So take Len's lead, folks. All Right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break to pay some bills.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a bit with a ton
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of Eagles talk. Stick with us, all right, we are
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: back here with my buddy Len, and now we're gonna
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: be getting into this Philadelphia Eagles team as they are
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: now down in New Orleans. They're heading, of course, to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Is our confidence level in the Eagles
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs this Sunday? Lenn and I are gonna
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: give some thoughts here. Now we've got our good friend
• 32:07
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• 32:11
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be joining us in just a bit to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: dive into some more storylines heading into this Super Bowl.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, Len, I was talking to I was
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned my daughter's you know, karate training earlier, and I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: was talking with a gentleman there who I know who's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a big Eagles fan. And he's like, oh, bright, because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I'm really thinking it's gonna be a double digit win.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, please stop, I go, please stop.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: The amount of positive vibes out there surrounding the Super
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Bowl prior to playing it, it's got me like so
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: worked up. I'm serious, like it has me worked up.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm like the rugg is gonna get pulled
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: out from under us. You know, we remember Jalen Hurts
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and that fumble, you know, fumble six before the half
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: in the in the other Super Bowl that they play
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. You know, remember the rug getting pulled
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: out from under us time and time again. As Eagles fans. However,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, I really am, and I'm trying to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: block out the good feelings at times because you look
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: at everything. I mean, I think the Eagles from a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: defensive standpoint, are gonna win the pass rush game. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: think they're going to create timely turnovers. I think Saquon
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Barkley is going to play like he has been playing
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: throughout this season. Because this offensive line, if healthy, God willing,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: they are just the most dominant force in the NFL.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: There are so many when you look at when you
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: look at the analysis of what these two teams are
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and what they've been throughout this season. Everything heading to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a point with this game, I think this Philadelphia Eagles
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: team should win. The number one defense they have. You know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: they a lot of these players or on the previous
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl team against the Chiefs, they have more experience.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna go back to sa Kuon Barkley.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: He is going to be so key in this game. Buddy,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just like I needed to get here. I need
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: this game to get here. Where are you at?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm kind of there as well.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like I you know, there's the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: part of you as a Philadelphia fan it's like, Okay.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: How's it going to happen? How are these guys going
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to lose this game?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: But like you, when you look at this team, like
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like most teams that you follow, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: you can be like, oh they're bullpen stinks, or oh
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: they're secondary stinks, or we are goalie stinks, or but
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: when you go position group by position group on this team,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: they they're solid all the way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: This is a really good team.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they and look, you have to be
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to get to a super Bowl. But you know, there
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: have been super teams that have made a super Bowl
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, you can exploit their their past
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: rush or you know, you know, things of that nature.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: But there's no soft underbelly to this Eagles team. They
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: are a damn good, well constructed football team. So that
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: that is what I'm kind of as an Eagles fan.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm hanging my hat on. And look, the
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Chiefs are great to to my knowledge, I think I've
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: heard a stat that they have not given up one
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: hundred yard rusher this year.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You you would probably know better than
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I would about that they have not.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: So that'll that right, there is a storyline for forget
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: about even the result. Ken Saquan, you know, finally hanging
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: one hundred yards on on on the Chiefs. Yeah, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: can he be the one to do that? So that'll
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: be a fun thing to look at there. But you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs are good too. They're not just you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: a good quarterback and smoking mirrors. I mean, they're they're
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: well rounded all the way around too, So I mean
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: it'll be a good game. But I mean, I don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: know when they when they beat the Patriots, it's like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: oh my god, they've got a backup quarterback. They're going
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: up against Tom Brady. I never in a million years
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: thought they were going to win that game. That's not
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the case here. They're not some underdog that has no
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: shot in hell of winning. They're a good So. I mean,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: as an Eagles fan, that is what I'm hanging my
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: hat on here. I mean, you, as an Eagles fan,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: have a legitimate right to be disappointed if they don't
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: pull this off.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Because they're that good.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: We can we can all put on the Reynolds wrap
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: and you know, put on the tinfoil hats and talk
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: about the refs. And I don't want to do that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I mean that because I don't know. I don't want
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: to be that guy. But but there is you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: not just for an Eagles fans point, but across the
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: NFL there's now a couple of year track record of
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: this with the Chiefs. So I mean that there's there's
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: that aspect of it where I'm like, ye oh god,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: how are they.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Going to do it to us? How is the NFL
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: going to do it to us?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: But I and I'm I'm fighting so hard to not
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: be that person, and I am failing to an extent.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to be that person.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Because we remember the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: two years Yes, yes we remember that, and it's like.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: But that's but but I feel like every team that
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: has played the Chiefs in a big game, like you
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: could get an Eagles fan and a Bills fan and
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: a Ravens fan and sit around a table and you
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: could talk about your your shitty calls against the.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Chief absolutely happen, you know, it's just there.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Like, like I said, there's enough of a track record now,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: so I don't want to be that person, but there
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: is a small part of me it's like, how's it
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: going to happen?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I think if Saquon Barkley is over one hundred yards rushing,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look the Baltimore Ravens defense they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: allowed a league best three point six yards per carry
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: this season, and then Eagles play the Ravens in Week
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: thirteen they beat him twenty four to nineteen. Barkley ran
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: twenty three times for one hundred and seven yards and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. You know, you also have the Steelers. They
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: gave up just four point one yards per carry, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: while Saquon Barkley was held to just sixty five yards
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: on nineteen attempts. It was also a game which the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: offense primarily focused on throwing the football with a lot
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of success. So it's not just Barkley, it's also the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: other weapons too, And I think.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: That's it was something I wanted to ask you, is like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: how do you think it's gonna go dead? Like do
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: you think the Chiefs sell out to stop Saquon at
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the game.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: What what I think is interesting is that Steve Spagnolo
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: is known for dime defenses, and folks, if you don't
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: know what a dime defense, it's the alignment that utilizes
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: six defensive backs on the field. And if you have
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley out there and you've got six defensive backs
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: on the field, that is very good for Saquon Barkley.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's gonna be a problem.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly that being said, I think I think there is
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: going to be a balance because we've seen that with
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: this team. The Eagles identity on offense, of course is
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the rushing attack, but there has been throughout this year
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a balance during the first half. If they are able
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to go up at halftime, I think we see Saquon
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Barkley just running the hell out of the ball during
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the second half. But I think we are going to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: see aj Brown, DeVante Smith, and Dallas Goddard playing a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: role too. I mean, are they all gonna have sixty
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to ninety yards each, you know, in the first half
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: or even throughout the entire game. Probably not, but they're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna be key on a lot of third
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: downs because we know this Chiefs defense. I mean, they
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: hold teams to third and long a decent amount. So
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I think that the pass game is going to be critical.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But the most critical thing on this offense, even more
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: than Saquon Barkley Lehen is no turnovers by Jalen Hurts.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: No turnovers. He has not been turning the ball over.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: If that remains consistent, I truly believe the Eagles are
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: going to win. That is the X factor here. If
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: he throws an interception, if there's another fumble for a
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: touchdown like there was in the previous Super Bowl, then
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the Eagles earned big trouble. If there's a turn at
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: least one turnover, I think the Eagles earned big trouble.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: The X factor is Jalen Hurts. He's got to keep
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: He's got to keep hold of the ball and not
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: give it up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It is It is funny because you've you've mentioned it
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: twice now, and it was a gigantic play and it
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: led to and it was a scoring play for the Chiefs,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: so it obviously hurt the Eagles. But outside of that play,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: it was the best game I've ever seen him play
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: as an eagle, absolutely to the point where Mahomes actually
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: after the Super Bowl said in a press conference, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: don't want it to get lost. How good Jalen hurt
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: is what in this game? So, I mean, it's there
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: within him, and I do I do think that maybe
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: to an extent at the very beginning, at least, I
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: think the Chiefs are gonna at least say, all right, Jaalen,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: let's see if you can do it again, yep, because
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: we're gonna take Saquan away at least in the very
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: beginning until you can show us that you can open
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: it up a little bit and spread us out, and
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. But I mean, again,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: this is an extremely well rounded team. You don't have
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: good receivers. You have two great wide receivers in Brown
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: and DeVante Smith, and you've got a good tight end
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: in you know, in Goddard. I mean, there's there's weapons
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: galore here. So it's there for the taking. I mean,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and you are right about Hurts. He has to play
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: a good game. He has to play a mistake free game,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: you know, not take you know, throw the if it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: not there. Please, for the love of God, throw the
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: ball away. I can already feel myself yelling this at
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: the TV. Yes, at least ten times over the course
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: of this game. I'm gonna do it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why I mentioned that turnover, that fumble
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: for the touchdown. There's a reason I mentioned that len
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and happening before the half in the previous Super Bowl
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: is because the score it would have been if he
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: didn't do that, If he did not fumble the ball
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and they wouldn't have picked it up and run it
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: in for the score, it would have been twenty four
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to seven at the half. What does that do to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the other team's psyche? But because of that, it was
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen, much more manageable, so.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Much more manageable.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And that leads to another aspect of the game that
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: we need to talk about here, and that is Eagles defense.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Because if you remember that second half, they marched down
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the field and scored on the Eagles every single possession
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: in that second half in that last Super Bowl. So
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: what can the Eagles do to prevent that from happening again?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Because it was, like you know, I was one stop.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Can we please get one friggin' stop in the second
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: half that Super Bowl, and I don't want to repeat that.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: So what can the Eagles do to prevent that from happening?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, and it's something we have seen
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: from this Eagles team, especially down the stretch, is they
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: create timely turnovers. And we see it in every Super
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Bowl too. Every Super Bowl that is played, there's a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: muff snap, a fumble on a kick return, the opposing
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: team recovers the ball changes the entire momentum of the game.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: The Eagles have been the best of the NFL at
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: punching the ball out. We've seen Zach Bond doing this
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: a number of times this year. CJ. Gardner Johnson has
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: been on his game. Darius Slay has upped his game
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: as well. Again, like whether it's you know, whether read
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: blanken ship being again at the right place at the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: right time and knowing where the ball is going to go,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the Eagles creating timely turnovers, whether it's interceptions again, punching
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the ball out, getting a fumble recovery, I think that's
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: going to be another key to this as well.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: It's going to have to be a thing along the
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: lines of the of the Washington game here in the
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: NFC championship team where you're getting these things at the
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: right time, and maybe it is punching the ball out
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: because I mean, I just I don't like Mahomes at all.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: But you know, he's not going to really make those mistakes.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: He's not going to give you a lot, right, so
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, it'll have to be like a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: fumble or something. And look, the Eagles secondary is much
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: improved over the last year. You know, I'll be curious
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: to see, like, you know, that's another matchup Mahomes versus
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: a young Eagle secondary. Does he try to go after
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Mitchell and Dejeene, who have been great you know, all
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: year long, but now you're on the biggest stage imaginable
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: and what happens there?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Oh man, I'm just the nerves, the nerves.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Are yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I'm there with you.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Well, buddy, I will unless you got something else, I'll
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: let you go before we get to our interview discussion
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: with BLG.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: No, I'll be interested to hear that when it comes out,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: because I'll be interested to see what Brandon has to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: say about all that, yep, But yeah, I just yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I'm nervous.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy, I will let you go, folks. We
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: are going to take a quick break and we will
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: be back in just a bit. All right, we are back.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into more Eagles talk right now. Have
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a fantastic guest. He has been coming on for well
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: over like ten years at this point, one of our favorites.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: It's what we're thrown down on the table, and now
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: on the table joining us for our Super Bowl preview
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: from Bleedinggreen Nation dot com. He's been over there for years, folks,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: years and years, continuing to put out great content, great articles.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: They got a great staff over there, a great team,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and again he's been coming on this podcast for years
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and years. We've got the one and only Brandon Lee
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Gout and BLG. How you doing, Buddy?
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Doing good?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Jeff. I don't think I would have believed it if
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: you told me that, Yeah, twelve years ago, i'd still
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: be appleating your niece. And also legals would be playing
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: in three Super Bowls within that Spain, and so here
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: we are exactly.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Winning one of them, and we're hoping that we got
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: a second one on the way for sure, so I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: really wanted to like just dive into like what this
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: season has really meant and from a perspective of you know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the tea, if the team didn't have this, they wouldn't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: be here blg Because like with this super Bowl just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: days away, you know, I've been doing a lot of
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: reflecting on this season. Eagles fans have also been doing
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of reflecting as well, So I'm wondering, what
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: are a couple aspects of this team where we would
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: be able to look back and say, you know, if
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the team didn't have this, they wouldn't be here. Of course,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley's at the top of that list, and what
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he's done for this offense definitely, you know it ranks
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: towards the top for sure. But what are some of
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the other aspects of this team that you've really been
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: thinking about lately that if they didn't have this particular thing,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be here. What are your thoughts?
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty crazy how good the defense has been.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: And going back to the offseason, it was like, okay,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: don't even the expectation was like, okay, just let the
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: defense be competent offense can do the heavy lifting for
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: this team. Bring in Vic Fangio so you don't have
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: a total disaster of a defense like he did down
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: the stretch last year with that Patricia being the coordinat.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, think about that. Think about how far deals
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: have come where they have incredible Patricia, yes as their
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: panic moved defensive coordinator, replacing Sean Desai last year, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: now they have Vic freakin' Fangio, like one of the
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: most respected defensive minds in the NFL. It's crazy to
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: think about how far they've come. But it's not even
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: just Vic, you know, it's everything that goes into this defense,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: which is incredibly fundamentally sound and everything, but the talent too.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, for Zach Bond to become the
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: player that he has, Yeah, for Nolan Smith to develop
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: yet Chauncey Garner Johnson back in here. You have an
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: underrated player like Reid Blank and Ship solidly, you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: just being a solid kind of contributor for you yea.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: I mean you go up and down the Jon Harder
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: developing into an absolute superstar All Pro in his second season.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: It's really just a special unit and unexpected and I think,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you know, that's really going to be the hallmark of
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: this twenty twenty four Eagles team is as like you said,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley, but also just just this defense and how
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: good that they've been has really just allowed them to
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: play that the way they have played most of the season.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I also think we have to, of course give
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: credit and We've talked about it on this podcast platform
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: a number of times, the growth of Nick Sirianni. I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: really think that's part of this and you see stuff
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes a lot more than I do. As
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you were down at the link, you know, you're there
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: for pressers, But it does seem to appear that he
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: has had some sort of growth process during the course
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: of this year. Are we right saying that on this
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: podcast platform consistently? Is that what you have seen? BLG?
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I would say, you know, look, he was in a
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: really interesting spot, as we talked about all off season,
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: coming off of that epic collapse last year, and you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: I've been critical of him, and I think part of
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: it was just like the biggest thing I struggled with
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: when it came to evaluating Nick Sirianni, He's like, what
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: does he really contribute to this team. And I still think,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: you know, you know, the talent is the biggest driver
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: of the Eagle success, Like there's you know Howie Roseman
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: deserves so much credit for how this roster has been built,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think it's not just the talent.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: It's also and one of the biggest issues I had
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: with Nick Sirianni last year and one of the biggest
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: things I have given him credit for in the past,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: is like the culture, the vibes. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: that only goes so far too because the players set
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: a lot of that, but certainly he plays a role
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: in that process. And one of his core values that
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: he likes to talk about is, you know, connection, And yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of these players seem to like each other
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and that's really good. And now part of that goes
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: hand in hand with winning, but it's not always necessarily guaranteed.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Because we saw that last year where we're winning a lot,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: it certainly didn't feel great. So I do think the
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: way that he's been able to get this team to
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: kind of come together and gail and play for each other,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: he certainly deserves credit for that part of it. But
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: also I will say too. The most encouraging thing I
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: think I've seen from Nick Sirianni the season game, in
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: the NFC Championship game when he was really willing to
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: be aggressive for it in that fourth and five spot,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: and he saw how much that was like a turning
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: point in that game. And if these are going to
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: win a super Bowl, it's probably going to be have
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: to be because he continues to keep the pedal to
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: the floor and continue to be aggressive. So and that
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: is growth because the last Super Bowl he wasn't aggressive
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: enough the way I saw it, so well, I do
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: think there is progress from him.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great points, great points for sure, BLG.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And I also think, you know, it's interesting talking about
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: various strengths with this team. You talked about Howie Roseman
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: as well. But I wonder how much credit we should
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: actually be giving to a certain guy. And I hate
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: giving credit to owners, you know, with regard to anything
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: in sports, quite frankly, but I do wonder how much
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: credit we should be giving to Jeffrey Lurie. And I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: say that because he doesn't appear to be the same
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: type of guy perhaps that you know is meddling in
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the draft and maybe insisting on drafting talent like jj
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Arthega Whiteside, who you know, we all remember that storyline.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Luriy has also apparently gone perhaps through some transformations
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: as well over the years. And and I say this
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: because he certainly know Jerry Jones. You know, as a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: lot of these owners get older in life, gets a
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: little more bizarre in terms of decision making, in terms
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: of direction, their communication style where they want the organization
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: to go. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on Jeffrey Luriy,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: his ownership of the team and the direction that he
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: has helped give that have led the Eagles to this
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: moment where they're going to be competing in the Super Bowl.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think you know, the patience that Jeffrey Larry
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: has had with Howie Roseman is obviously really key. And
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: you know, I say that as someone who's been critical
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: of Howie Rosemand in the past. Yeah, and I would
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: say he's earned how he earned that criticism with how
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: the Eagles really kind of went in the tailspin for
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: a bit there after winning the Super Bowl. I think
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: he made a lot of not so great personnel moves.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: But you know, since Doug Peterson has been gone, Nick
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Sirianni has been here. How he's pretty much been acing
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: things for the most part. Yeah, and that wouldn't have happened,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: you know, if Jeffrey Larry didn't have the patience and
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: faith in Howie Roseman. A lot of the success that
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: how He is able to have is a testament to
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: the patience that Lurry has, because you know, a lot
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: of gms are worrying about their job security and making
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: moves or that are about self preservation as opposed to
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: the actual long term benefit of the team.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: And therefore, you know, I'll give Lurry credit for empowering
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Roseman in that way. I think that's the you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: a dynamic that really works well together. I also say
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: that I think we traditionally think of like a good
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: owner in sports generally as someone who gets out of
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: the way, you know, and lets all the key people
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: do their jobs. And I do think Jeffrey Larry does that,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't think it's just that simple.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: I think you also, you don't want an owner who's disengaged.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: You want an owner who cares right, is there and
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: is involved and it understands what's going on. You don't
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: want absentee owner right, kind of like maybe what Joss
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Harris has been at the six years here since let's
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: get into that exactly. But you know, I think Larry
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: cares and I think that is important and obviously his
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: voice should be involved at a certain times, especially with
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: the big picture things. So yeah, I do think Jeffrey
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Larry deserves a lot of credit for this too, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: also just like the next here on any part of it,
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: because there's patients there, you know, like he could have
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: fired it very well, and I think they give based
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: on how you know, they didn't really to come out
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: with a vote confidence for him right away after the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three season, it did seem like, you know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: they gave weight to that. There was talk about back
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: channeling Bill Belichick and whatnot. So you know, I also
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: think his patients there with not only Howie but Sirianni
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: as well as paying off.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do as well. So as we're moving along
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: here with the conversation, BLG, let's get into what we
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: might expect from this Super Bowl, this game in terms
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: of the matchups here First and foremost want to start
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: off with this Eagles offensive line. They have just been
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: dominant as we know. I mean, last week on the show,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: we talked about Cam Jurgens and his resiliency coming into
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: a game when his back was injured. He did not
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: start the game, but he needed to finish the game.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: For this offensive line and the Eagles offense, two new positions,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: have two new players this season, with Makai Beckton starting
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: at right guard for most of the year and also
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens taken over for Jason Kelsey very seamlessly in
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I just I can't see the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Chiefs defense really new realizing the Eagles offensive line. So
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on this particular matchup
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: here and what we should be looking at as far
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: as the Chiefs and how they're likely probably going to
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: be blitzing the heck out of Jalen Hurts trying to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: disrupt this offense. How do you see this offensive line
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: really handling itself during the course of this game against
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the a Chiefs defensive front that is not terrible by
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: any stretch.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I like how you frame it there in terms of
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: like not neutralizing the Eagles offensive line, as if the
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Eagles offensive line is a weapon because it is it is.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely you know, goes hand in hand with the
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: running game, and you know, Saquon is awesome, but you
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: know he's not able to have the level of success
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: he's had this season. Certainly we saw that be the
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: case in New York if he doesn't have this offensive
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: line to run behind. So I certainly think the Eagles
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: offensive line is going to be a huge factor, you know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: if they win this game or not. And really interested
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: to see just how healthy Cam Jurgens is. You know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: a back injury is no joke. And obviously Landon Dickerson too.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: They're going to play.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: You know, they weren't.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: They weren't listed on the injury report that came out
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: last week in terms of being questionable or anything. But
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just a matter of how close to
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent are they going to be, do they
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: have to are they able to finish the game. We'll
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: see on that front. But you know, it's tough because
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones is really good. The Egles did a really
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: good job of keeping him in check, as they have
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: done typically in the past with like most premier defensive
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: line talent. You think about like Micah Parsons. You think
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: about Aaron Donald when he used to play. Those usually
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: are pretty good because they're basically to say, hey, we're
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: not going to let that guy beat us, and we'll
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: dare any other guy to beat us. That being said,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Chris Jones did have some success against them last year
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: when the Eagles played the Chiefs in Kansas City, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: he's just so good that he's probably not going to
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: be denied the entire game most likely, So you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: that's obviously a big factor there. And then with the blitzing,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: the way I think about it is like I think
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: we all it gets talked about in a way where
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: like it's only an advantage for the defense, right because
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: you're thinking about it can create avoc and issued and
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: it can. I'm not going to deny that part of it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: But the other part of it is if it doesn't
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: get home, then all of a sudden, you know, like
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: you can take advantage of that, right, And I think
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: that's exactly how the Eagles looked at it. And I
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: was watching the Chiefs game from last year in twenty
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: twenty three when the Eagles beat them in Kansas City,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: where there were some blitzes that the Chiefs had called
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: up where Jalen Hurts just takes the ball and instantly
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: starts running to a vacated area where no one is so,
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: you know, and I do think that's gonna be another
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: factor here. And I think we saw some of that
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: in the previous Super Bowl as well, where Jalen Hurts
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: had a big day on the ground. And I do
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: think his legs are going to be a big part
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: of the Eagles offensive game plan and a counter to
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: that blitz So you know, you know, blitzing can be
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: great for the Chiefs, but can also leave them exposed
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: absolutely well.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to my co host Lend
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you know, just before bringing you on here, and you know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I truly believe if Jalen Hurts doesn't turn the ball over,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the Eagles win their second Super Bowl. Here, I really
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: truly believe that his turnover for a touchdown in the
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: last Eagles chief Super Bowl, I mean, it was extremely
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: detrimental right before the half, and it really gave the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Chiefs a ton of momentum for the second half. The
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Eagles go into halftime twenty four to seven instead of
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen, and that was such a huge
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: key turnover and if there are no turnovers for Jalen
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Hurts in this game, again, I think this Eagles team
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and this offense is going to put up some points.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I also think it's going to be just continuous momentum
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: throughout the game. But I'm wondering, what else do you
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: want to see from Jalen Hurts this time around against
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: this Chief's defense. Everybody talks about blg about him getting
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: the ball out quicker. Look, folks, I don't think it's
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: gonna happen anytime soon. I don't think we're going to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: see some sort of quote reform Jalen Hurts in terms
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: of his pocket presence and his reads. I don't know
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: what what else do you think we need to see
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: from Hurts this time around against his Chiefs defense.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that fumbled in the last Super Bowl. It's it's
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: just so tough from a standpoint to like talk about
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: a ya. So it wasn't like, oh, the Chiefs made
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: a great play. You can't say that he just dropped
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: the ball. Yeah, but being careless, it's just a weird,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: fluky kind of and and also it bounces in a
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: way obviously that like specifically leads to a Chiefs Touchdenneth
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: that bounceing away where he picks it up or whatever.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: So that's that's football for you. And and and then
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: weird things happen, and you know, we can talk about
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: it here and matchups and everything, and sometimes it just
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: goes out the window because football is weird. It's a
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: weird shape ball and it bounces a certain way. Sometimes
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: sometimes it helps you, sometimes it doesn't. But in terms
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: of what I want to see from Jalen in this game,
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: you know, I do think, like you know, making quick
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: decisions would be great to see. We saw some of
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: that in the NFC Championship games. So certainly, you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: if he's not holding the ball like he usually does,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: which can lead to negative play as sacks and and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: really giving the Chiefs time to get home to him,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I would like to see if he is going to
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: hold onto the ball. Like holding onto the ball isn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: inherently bad, I think we can all agree on that,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: but it's the part part of the problem when Jalen
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: holds onto the ball. This season especially has been like
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: we haven't always seen the big play part of that
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: equation be part of it, Like if you're gonna hold
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: onto the ball. That can be good, but you also
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: and there could be negative associated with that, sacks and whatnot,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: but it should also ideally, you know, balance out where
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: you're getting. You're holding onto the ball more to extend
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: the play and make plays downfield. And I don't think
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: we've seen that part of the equation. It's been more
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: of just like throwaways or sacks and at a high
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: rate or too high of a rate. So if he
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: is gonna hold the ball, I would like to see
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: him at least take some shots downfield. Obviously had that
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: shot downfield to A. J. Brown in the NFC Championship game,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: which is huge, And like, I know that you just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: want to play conservative and turnover free, but I really
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: don't think like an occasional arm punt is gonna be
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: like the death knell for them, right if they don't
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: gets kicked off sixty yards down the field. Like I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: can live with that, especially because I think more often
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: than not with those deep shots, you know, he and A. J. Brown,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: assuming it's him where Davante whoever, are gonna win out.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: AJ's really good at making those catches. Jalen's really good.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: That's probably one of the best passes he throws. So
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: I just I'm not saying you to bombit downfield all
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: game long, but that has to be an element at
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: some point.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. Great point you make
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: for sure. You know, we've been talking for weeks here,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: BLG weeks and weeks about this Eagles team and being
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: one of the most complete teams that we have ever seen,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and that's why this season has been so amazing. But
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you know, we cannot forget and you were just talking
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: about these two receivers. We can't forget about AJ Brown
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith. So how do you see the wide
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: receivers roll this week in this offense against the Chiefs defense,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: who utilizes a lot of dime packages, you know, six
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: d backs out on the field. How do you see
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers really making their impact this week in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it simple. I'm gonna say, throw the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: ball to AJ Brown because good things happen. Yeah, good
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: things happen. I mean it's really it's not that simple,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: but it really is. At the same time, because this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: season when Dalen Hurtsy's target at AJ Brown, he is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty one point three passer rating, like
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: it's very obvious. Yeah, good things happen, so you know
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: it can't be one of the when we've seen some
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: games though this year, you know where like I think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: it's in the Panthers game. Aja only ends up with
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: four targets in that Packers game obviously wasn't targeted. A
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: whole lot can't happen. I don't care. There's there's no
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: there's no way like a team is defending him where
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: that is acceptable unless like they're literally, you know, putting
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: two people on him, which doesn't happen. It's actually like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: truly double covered, unless you're like Calvin Johnson in that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: one graphic where they playing the Saints or whatever years
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: ago and they actually put two people on him in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: people line, Like that doesn't that's not happening, So a
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: j And also if AJ is covered, I don't care,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: give him a shot to make a play because he
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: can do that. And if he's not, then DeVante has
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: to be open. So I think it's really as simple
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: as just like you know, putting trust in those guys
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: to make plays. And I know that's not exactly how
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: they've wanted to play with how you know turnover averse
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: they've been, but I think at some point, again, maybe
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: it's where they are in the field and you have
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: to be smart about it. But taking some deep shots
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: to those guys, I think that's the move.
• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: talk about this Eagles defense here. I think the Birds
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: pass rush here heading into this game can very much
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: disrupt the Chiefs offensive line, disrupt Patrick Mahomes as well.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: But the problem here is is that he's Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, the real question is can the Eagles defense
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: really again I will use the word neutralize, neutralize Patrick
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Mahomes during key moments of this game. How do they
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: get this done? Here because we know we know the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: type of ball that Patrick Mahomes plays, and we know
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that every now and again. Look, don't want to get
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: len and I were talking about this as well. I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to get into the whole refs thing too
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: too much, but we know that there is a pattern
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: of you know, him getting some calls here and there. Again,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: that question is, how can the defense neutralize Patrick Mahomes
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: during this game? How do they get it done? BLG.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: I think it comes down to Jaen Carter. I really
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: think he is the guy who and the last time
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: the Eagles played in the Super Dome, I was against
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: the Saints. You know, a different situation. The Saints were
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: also missing some offensive lineman at that point. But that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: is exactly the kind of game that young Carter can
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: have where he wrecks the game and it totally just
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: stifles the opposing offense. I think he needs to have
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: that kind of performance. I think he's capable of having that.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: I do think it'll be very interesting to see how
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs plan to defend him.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Are they going to double him
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: every single play? And if they do, what does that
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: do for the other aspects? Of this Eagles pass rush
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I almost wonder if they won't because you know, Trey
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Smith the card is also very good, and you know,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: I think there are so many times where they double
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Jim Carter. Of course there will, and even if they're
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: playing and is the double team of all game long,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: there probably will be a couple of snaps for he
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  Speaker 4: won't be But I do think there will be times
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  Speaker 4: where they do just leave Trey Smith one on one
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  Speaker 4: Jill and Carter, and then that obviously gives the Chiefs
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  Speaker 4: the ability to kind of give more help to their
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  Speaker 4: weak point on their offensive line, left guard Mike Caliendo
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  Speaker 4: there and then all of a sudden, Milton Williams, who's
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  Speaker 4: had a really good season, doesn't have those one on
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  Speaker 4: one because he might be getting double teamed, and then
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  Speaker 4: you know that's not a good situation. But I do
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  Speaker 4: think it comes down to Jaen Carter just absolutely being
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  Speaker 4: a force. They need him to be that kind of
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  Speaker 4: difference maker in this game. It might not even be
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  Speaker 4: in a way where like that it shows up on
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  Speaker 4: the stat sheet. That's like how that Saints game was.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't he had a good game. If you look
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  Speaker 4: at the box Scuore, But it wasn't like this otherworldly
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  Speaker 4: game if you're just looking at stat sheet, but if
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  Speaker 4: you turn on the tape, I mean he's just wrecking
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  Speaker 4: every single play. Yeah, and I think they need that
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  Speaker 4: kind of echelon performance from Jaien Carter. Also, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Nolan Smith is gonna be a big factor in this
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  Speaker 4: one as well, going up against Jawan Taylor. And Nolan's
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  Speaker 4: just been incredibly hot here for a long time now,
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  Speaker 4: is what ten to a half saxon the last fifteen games. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he've turned it up in the playoffs, especially, he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: Jaan Taylor is able to be had there. And I
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  Speaker 4: do think it's gonna come down to Nolan also making
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  Speaker 4: some key plays, especially if joeccarter is getting that extra attention.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what this Eagles defensive front
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  Speaker 1: is going to do against this Chiefs offense. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be it's gonna be so fun to watch. But BLG,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry before I let you go here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in these Super Bowls, we see time and time again
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  Speaker 1: it's just one play here or there that makes all
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  Speaker 1: the difference in the world. We talked about it earlier
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  Speaker 1: with the with the Jalen Hurts fumble from a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago in the Super Bowl. You know, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's a fumble, an interception, a penalty, whatever the case is.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering what what do you think will be an
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  Speaker 1: intangible in this game that really could lead to an
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Eagles win and them getting their second Super Bowl? Have
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  Speaker 1: you thought about what that intangible might be in this game?
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  Speaker 4: I really think it's gonna be the fourth down stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I really do.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, look back to last Super Bowl and that's one
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  Speaker 4: of my biggest like sticking points of why I've had
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: questions about Nick Sirianni, because it's not even just about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: the analytics of it all. That's obviously a big part
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  Speaker 4: of it to me, but like take let's say we
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  Speaker 4: disagree on that and we can just eliminate that for
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: a second. When he doesn't go for that fourth and
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  Speaker 4: three his own territory in that game, it was a
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  Speaker 4: blatant like disregard of what was actively happening in the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: game itself. Because the Chiefs had just gone on these
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: massive long scoring drives. Your defense clearly didn't have answers
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: at that point, So why are you punning the ball, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and saying let's trust in the defense right now, when
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  Speaker 4: your quarterback was playing awesome and like like you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: super Bowl MVP caliber kind of performance. And also your
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: punter had just come off ir you know, coming off
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: an injury, like you don't know where he's at. And
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: the special teams what did we say the whole twenty
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  Speaker 4: two season, Like, oh no, because it team is awesome,
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  Speaker 4: but the special team's kind of shaky. So why are
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: you trusting in the special teams? Why are you trusting
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  Speaker 4: in the defense over the offense that situation, even if
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: you just regard, disregard the analytics for a second, and
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  Speaker 4: they obviously do say go for it. So I need
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  Speaker 4: Sirianni to be aggressive in this situation. You don't beat
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: at a very simple level, don't beat Patrick Mahomes by
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: kicking field goals and punting the ball, right, That's not
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: how you beat him. You have to go out and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: do everything you possibly can. And if you lose like that,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like you should be able to live with
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: that a lot more than you can if you're saying, oh,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: what if we had gone for it? So I think
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  Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni really has to be aggressive and play for
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  Speaker 4: Broke in this game.
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  Speaker 1: A great, great discussion again, folks. Brandon Lee, Gout and
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  Speaker 1: BLG from Bleedinggreen Nation dot com, the leading Eagles a
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  Speaker 1: BLG absolutely love talking to you, my man. Appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: coming on as you always do so, very appreciative of you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. Come back and join us down the road.
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  Speaker 4: I will do that after we have an Eagles super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl win to talk about, and.
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