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Credlin | 2 September · Credlin

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  Speaker 1: Peter Kranbland Live on Sky News Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up tonight. More bad news for Labor
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  Speaker 2: in the Prime Minister personally, the latest news poll confirming
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  Speaker 2: the government's on the nose and headed for a hung
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  Speaker 2: parliament at Vest. More pressure to on labor with this
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  Speaker 2: weekend's official launch the Buslim Votes Matter movement in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: So where will they.
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  Speaker 2: Be targeting and how real is the threat. I'll get
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  Speaker 2: into all of that, we're the polling expert shortly. Plus
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  Speaker 2: the matter is we sits down here in Victoria, a
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  Speaker 2: new taxpayer funded Rainbow.
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  Speaker 3: Toolkit being rolled out in libraries where.
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  Speaker 2: Children as young as five are actually asked about their
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  Speaker 2: preferred pronouns. At the same time, Victoria's are furious to
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  Speaker 2: learn they're paying for the canceled Commonwealth Games in Scotland.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Daniel Andrews.
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  Speaker 2: And if the poll didn't already tell you, Labour's under pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Treasure is attack on the RBA speaks volumes as the
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  Speaker 2: PM is forced to try and mop things up today.
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  Speaker 4: I do note that there's nothing new in what Jim
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  Speaker 4: Chalmers has said. He has said that consistently in the Parliament,
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  Speaker 4: but first.
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  Speaker 2: In his gratuitor spray against Peter Dutton last week. The
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  Speaker 2: Treasurer was showing a touch of desperation with his attack
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  Speaker 2: today on the Reserve Bank Governor Jim Chalmers is confirming
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  Speaker 2: that this government knows it's in deep trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Now take it from me.
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  Speaker 2: If the government were doing a better job, it would
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  Speaker 2: not be lashing out and blaming everyone but itself for
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  Speaker 2: what's going wrong. The Treasurer reckons that it's the Reserve
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  Speaker 2: Bank's job, and it's the Reserve Bank, he says that's
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  Speaker 2: smashing the economy, as he told journalist Samantha Maiden on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, and I quote, with all this global uncertainty
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  Speaker 2: on top of the impact of rate rises that are
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  Speaker 2: smashing the economy, it would be no surprise at all.
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  Speaker 2: Or if the National accounts on Wednesday show that growth
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  Speaker 2: is soft and subdued, making it pretty clear the charmers
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  Speaker 2: is looking to blame the RBA for bad growth figures.
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  Speaker 2: He anticipates this week it didn't take too long for
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  Speaker 2: other ministers to chime in trying to browbeat the bank.
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  Speaker 5: We don't want to see the Reserve Bank go too far.
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  Speaker 5: We want to make sure that we do continue to
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  Speaker 5: grow as an economy and importantly that people remain in employment.
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  Speaker 1: That's leading the witness though a bit there isn't it?
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  Speaker 6: Is it not? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, it's perfectly reasonable for the government
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  Speaker 5: to point out that households have really been smashed in
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  Speaker 5: their incomes.
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  Speaker 2: That was, of course before the PM tried to say
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  Speaker 2: nothing to see here. Despite that blame shifting from the Treasurer.
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  Speaker 4: Look, you, the Treasurer's comments were absolutely nothing new. He
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  Speaker 4: has made the comment about the economy slowing for a
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  Speaker 4: long period of time and economists are expecting when the
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  Speaker 4: figures are released this week that they will show a
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  Speaker 4: modest growth. That is just a fact.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Treasury himself, sensing is on thin ice,
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  Speaker 2: tried to walk back his loose talk.
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  Speaker 7: As I've said a number of times in this press conference. Now,
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  Speaker 7: we work very closely with the Independent Reserve Bank. Governor
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  Speaker 7: Bullock has her own difficult job to do, and we
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  Speaker 7: have our own difficult job to do, and our objectives
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  Speaker 7: are aligant. Now everybody wants us to get on top
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  Speaker 7: of this inflation challenge. In our economy.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be clear, the main reason the bank's been raising
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  Speaker 2: interest rates for the past two years is because the
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  Speaker 2: government's been flooding the economy with money. If COMA spending
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  Speaker 2: as a percentage of GDP had not gone up two
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  Speaker 2: percentage points under that bloke, the bank would not have
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  Speaker 2: had to raise interest rates as far and as fast.
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  Speaker 3: As it is.
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  Speaker 2: The RBA is hitting the economic brake because the albenezy
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  Speaker 2: government can't help putting its foot on the economic accelerator
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  Speaker 2: with all of that big spending and social policy portfolios
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  Speaker 2: like the out of control INDIS. So rather than demonizing
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  Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank, which is only doing its job, the
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  Speaker 2: government should be lifting its own economic gain. In particular,
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  Speaker 2: the government should stop making it harder and harder for
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  Speaker 2: businesses to keep their existing markets or to create new ones. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what's the message to business large and small When a
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  Speaker 2: new billion dollar mine that would create thousands of jobs.
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  Speaker 2: It's past every state and federal environmental hurdle gets ki
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  Speaker 2: washed at the eleventh hour by the federal environment Minister
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  Speaker 2: on Aboriginal heritage grounds that local Aboriginal leaders say are spurious.
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  Speaker 2: These leaders claim they are the official Aboriginal authority of
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  Speaker 2: the area, and they didn't have any cultural objections to
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  Speaker 2: the MIND proceeding, nor did the minister's own cultural assessor,
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  Speaker 2: who also said the MIND should go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Why all people be rolling in their grave if they
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  Speaker 8: knew that our culture has been hijacked for hidden agendas
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  Speaker 8: and it's not right.
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  Speaker 9: How are we going to close the gap?
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  Speaker 8: The biggest killer of Aboriginal people in this country is
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  Speaker 8: an alcohol and drugs. It's absolute poverty and welfare dependency.
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  Speaker 8: And here we got a minister that's knocking back a
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  Speaker 8: billion dollar mine that could create economic empowerment for my people.
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  Speaker 2: Roy RC's comments there are incredibly powerful because they are
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  Speaker 2: the truth. Last week, the PM indulged in this ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: pretense that it was for the gold mine, claiming there
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  Speaker 2: was no reason why I couldn't proceed, even though it's
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  Speaker 2: his own government that's killed it off.
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  Speaker 4: The gold mine can go ahead. What has happened is
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  Speaker 4: a decision based upon a tailing stam Chris Minz would
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  Speaker 4: like it to go ahead. I'd like to go ahead too.
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  Speaker 2: Over the weekend and emerged that Almanezy had been specifically
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  Speaker 2: warned two months ago via a letter to him from
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  Speaker 2: the company that the mine would not go ahead if
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  Speaker 2: the Minister blocked the tailings dam. Well, first, the PM
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  Speaker 2: took no action to reign in his ideologically driven hard
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  Speaker 2: left colleague Tanya Pleversk. Then he pretended that the mine
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  Speaker 2: still could go ahead despite that ban.
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  Speaker 3: On the tailings dam.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, now he's washed his hands the whole project, saying
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  Speaker 2: none of his business.
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  Speaker 4: It's the law. The law says that the Environment Minister
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  Speaker 4: makes a decision and I don't break the law. So
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  Speaker 4: the Environment Minister is responsible under the EPBC Act, just like.
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  Speaker 2: COVID where no senior politician is responsible for anything. But
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  Speaker 2: how could it be none of the peam's business, where
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  Speaker 2: it's his government that's blocking the mind and all those
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  Speaker 2: jobs and at least two one hundred million dollars in
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  Speaker 2: state royalties alone. It's not the RBA that's making as poorer.
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  Speaker 2: It's the alban Easy government that's making us poorer because
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  Speaker 2: of all of these green obsessions. As the company said, Regius,
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  Speaker 2: blocking the tailings dam would meet an quote a potential
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  Speaker 2: five to ten.
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  Speaker 3: Year reapproval process.
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  Speaker 2: Then there's the fact that there are no new gas
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  Speaker 2: fields being approved, even though in Australia. We've got massive
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  Speaker 2: untapped reserves in Narrabriye, the Beterloo Basin and Browse, so
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  Speaker 2: to keep the lights on. Experts are reporting today we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to start importing expensive gas from overseas
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  Speaker 2: rather than use what we're blessed to have in the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Watson, CEO of one of the nation's largest entery
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  Speaker 2: energy operators, the APA Group, told The Australian it was
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  Speaker 2: likely Australia, one of the world's largest exporters, would have
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  Speaker 2: to import llen G after years of failing to bolster
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  Speaker 2: domestic supplies. When it comes to the economy, this government
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  Speaker 2: is completely clueless. Labor ministers can complain all they like
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  Speaker 2: about the Reserve Bank, but with a government that's turning
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  Speaker 2: its back on developing our resources, voters will know who's
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  Speaker 2: to blame, as George or will recognize one of the
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  Speaker 2: left tricks is to use loaded language as a form
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  Speaker 2: of moral intimidation. I'm sure have you've noticed the term
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal people has morphed into other things. It's become Australia's
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  Speaker 2: first people's that's now become first nations. You might have
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  Speaker 2: also notice at first nations. It is the term I
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  Speaker 2: never used unless I'm quoting someone, because it's designed to
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  Speaker 2: condition us to a falsehood, namely that Aboriginal tribes once
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  Speaker 2: exercised a sovereignty over our island continent that's never been seated,
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  Speaker 2: or so they say. Now, it's a phrase that's used
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  Speaker 2: very deliberately to create a taint of illegitimacy over modern Australia,
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  Speaker 2: with the end result being the need for constant acts
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  Speaker 2: of atonement and reparations. Last week of Victorian barrister Lana
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  Speaker 2: Klaris publicly rebuked to the Law Council of Victoria for
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  Speaker 2: its habitual acknowledgment of traditional owners at the start of
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  Speaker 2: every meeting. As you know, I think these practices are
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  Speaker 2: dead wrong because they suggest the country belongs to some
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  Speaker 2: people more than it belongs to all of us. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with the occasional welcome to
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  Speaker 2: country at a specific indigenous related event, not all the
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  Speaker 2: time everywhere, whenever we land a plane or start a
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  Speaker 2: footag game on acknowledgments of country. So these are things
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  Speaker 2: that white fellas do. I'm even more hard nosed. I've
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  Speaker 2: never done one, and I won't because non Aboriginal people
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  Speaker 2: reciting a line over and over again at the start
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  Speaker 2: of every function has become meaningless and trite. But as
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  Speaker 2: Kolara said, it's more than that. There's a particular problem,
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  Speaker 2: she says with the term first Nations, which is that
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  Speaker 2: I quote her here wrongly used to strengthen the claims
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  Speaker 2: of the sovereignty was never seated and the always worlds,
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  Speaker 2: always will be movement. Kolaris warned that this was leading
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  Speaker 2: into a two tiered legal system.
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  Speaker 3: Based on race.
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  Speaker 2: This idea that some people are more Australian than others
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  Speaker 2: is deeply subversive and it's contrary too or what's always
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  Speaker 2: been the law's understanding. Chris Merritt will be later on
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  Speaker 2: in the show, So pointed out on Friday that this
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  Speaker 2: First nation's talk is a modern fairy tale that does
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  Speaker 2: us more harm than good. A former Chief Justice of
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  Speaker 2: the High Court, Harry Gibbs said, there is no Aboriginal
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  Speaker 2: nation if by that expression it's meant people organized or
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  Speaker 2: a separate state, or exercising any degree of sovereignty. Another
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  Speaker 2: former Chief Justice, Anthony Mason said, and this is in
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  Speaker 2: relation to the Marlbo case. It's entirely it odds with
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  Speaker 2: the notion that sovereignty adverse to the crown resided in
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  Speaker 2: the Aboriginal people of Australia. Now at heart, last year's
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  Speaker 2: Voice referendum was about whether we thought that some Australians
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  Speaker 2: were more equal than others. Now resoundingly you said no.
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  Speaker 2: But don't then think that the Voice fights over. We
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  Speaker 2: voted for one Australia and equal citizens last October. Now
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  Speaker 2: we all need to do what's necessary to keep the
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi government honest. All right, let's got a camera now
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  Speaker 2: for the headlines. Sky News Senior reporter Trudy Macintosh.
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  Speaker 10: Good evening, attention turns to the West. The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 10: once again taking his cabinet to perv the spotlight today
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  Speaker 10: on the orcust Defense packed Anthony Albanezi and his Defense
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  Speaker 10: Minister get a tour on board USS Hawaii.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, we don't quit anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Where are the keys?
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  Speaker 10: The submarine is currently docked at h mayor Sterling undergoing repairs.
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  Speaker 1: This is the steps that we are taking to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we.
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  Speaker 5: Are building up the skills here in Western Australia.
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  Speaker 10: Labor also trying to revive a GST scare campaign.
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  Speaker 7: Peter Dutmyss focused on dividing people and dudding Way.
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  Speaker 10: Seizing on comments by the opposition's Andrew Bragg where he
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  Speaker 10: suggested with holding GST dollars to make states boost housing.
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  Speaker 11: We need to be creative and find a way to
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  Speaker 11: hit the states hard where it hurts the most.
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  Speaker 10: Senior WA Liberal emphatic the coalition won't be backtracking on
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  Speaker 10: the state's sweetheart deal.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Bragg was wrong. That is not our policy.
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  Speaker 10: The Treasurer accused of blaming the Reserve Bank for Australia's
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  Speaker 10: current cost of living pressures.
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  Speaker 7: He has absolutely failed to deal with the homegrown inflation
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  Speaker 7: that he is responsible for, and he wants to blame
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  Speaker 7: everyone else he can see.
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  Speaker 10: The latest fight sparked by a statement on Sunday, Jim
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  Speaker 10: Chalmers declared the impact of rat hikes were smashing the economy.
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  Speaker 7: And I think the Australian people, frankly expect me to
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  Speaker 7: tell it like it is. And I've been making that
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  Speaker 7: point for some months. What I said overnight wasn't you.
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  Speaker 10: Meanwhile, in Israel, hundreds of thousands of protesters took to
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  Speaker 10: the streets after six hostages were found dead inside gaza.
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  Speaker 10: The group believed to have been executed by her mass
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  Speaker 10: just before the IDF could reach them.
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  Speaker 12: We are in a difficult day.
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  Speaker 6: The heart of the entire nation is torn.
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  Speaker 10: It's triggered growth frustration directed largely at Prime Minister Benjamin
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  Speaker 10: net Yahoo over the failure to secure a cease fire deal.
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  Speaker 10: Trudy McIntosh Sky News canbra.
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  Speaker 2: All right, We're going to have a little bit newspoll now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shocker today for the Prime Minister, in particular
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  Speaker 2: his personal votes under pressure alongside that of the Labor
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  Speaker 2: Party in terms of primary vote Labour sits six points
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  Speaker 2: behind the Coalition at thirty eight to thirty two two
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  Speaker 2: party preferred terms. Both parties are now neck and neck
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  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty for a second straight month, and the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister's net satisfaction slumped to the equal lowest levels
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  Speaker 2: since he took office. That's a negative thirteen. For more
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  Speaker 2: on this than the other big issues of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined now by Sky News political reporter Cameron Redden,
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  Speaker 2: Sky News host National Affairs editor at the Day Telegraph,
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  Speaker 2: James Morrow.
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  Speaker 3: Well, gentlemen, welcome Cam.
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  Speaker 2: Despite the billions they spent in May and the budget
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  Speaker 2: to win over voters They're now stuck in dangerous territory,
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  Speaker 2: aren't they, and the PM's of weakness on big issue
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  Speaker 2: like the Visa for vote scandal. I think in those
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  Speaker 2: numbers you see the evaporation of trust, and I think
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  Speaker 2: a scorecard from punters on competency.
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  Speaker 11: Well, simply not enough going right for the government at
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  Speaker 11: the moment, Peter. We even think back twelve months after
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  Speaker 11: the voice went down, there seemed to be this loss
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  Speaker 11: of momentum. The government limpd its way into Christmas and
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  Speaker 11: then the Prime Minister tried to hit the reset button
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  Speaker 11: and go full on cost of living from January. You've
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  Speaker 11: got a bit of a similar sort of feeling at
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  Speaker 11: this point in the year.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 11: They've had a rough week, brawling with traditional labor allies,
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  Speaker 11: the likes of the unions, the university sector. The handling
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  Speaker 11: of the census question didn't help either. Inflation is sticking
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  Speaker 11: around this poll today, not good either. We also learned
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  Speaker 11: in the last ninety minutes or so, Peter, that the
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  Speaker 11: Prime Minister has now lost his media director. He's off
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  Speaker 11: to go work for DFAT. It's the second change there
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  Speaker 11: in the space of nine months in that role. A
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  Speaker 11: critical position in the Prime Minister's office when you're trying
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  Speaker 11: to get the message out and convince people to vote
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  Speaker 11: for you in the space of nine months. And as
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  Speaker 11: for those numbers as you laid out in years poll there, look,
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  Speaker 11: I suppose anyone can win it from fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 11: the elections there from the taking, but a minority government
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  Speaker 11: still seems like the most likely outcome here, and nine
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  Speaker 11: months from going to the polls in a first term,
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  Speaker 11: it's certainly not the position that the government would want
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  Speaker 11: to be in.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say, Press sexx are very political roles
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that the Press sex is now going
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  Speaker 2: into the bowels of the Department to work for Foreign
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  Speaker 2: Affairs shows how politicized this bureaucracy is under labor. That's
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  Speaker 2: a digression there, James. Over the weekend I wrote that
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  Speaker 2: the government has blocked a major project on these trumped
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  Speaker 2: up heritage grounds. It allowed hospitals to almost run dry
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  Speaker 2: on ivy fluids. It's got migrants coming in from an
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  Speaker 2: active war zone, no security checks. The problem for this
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister is his entire life. He's lived in a
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  Speaker 2: hard left bubble, is now in the Canberra bubble. Even
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  Speaker 2: if milk gets bought by the housekeeper at the lodge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's completely lost touch with the
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  Speaker 2: real world.
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  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, you know, I'd think you're absolutely right about that.
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  Speaker 9: Think about Anthony Albnese's biography. Here's a guy who, you know,
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  Speaker 9: he says, oh proudly he grew up in public housing
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  Speaker 9: and all of these sorts of things that you know,
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  Speaker 9: very real world, sort of visceral kind of childhood, and
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  Speaker 9: good on him. But it seems like ever since that
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  Speaker 9: he's spent his entire life, as you suggest, in government,
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  Speaker 9: working for the taxpayer, very little contact with the real world.
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  Speaker 9: The same thing too, if you look at Tanya Plibersek
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  Speaker 9: with her career again basically her entire career working for
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  Speaker 9: the taxpayer again this bubble, and so many other ministers
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  Speaker 9: on that front bench of labor again entirely within the
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  Speaker 9: labor bubble. That's why they don't see the consequences. That's
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  Speaker 9: why they can be like, oh, well, you know, you
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  Speaker 9: can just move your tailing stamp from here to there, Catcher,
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  Speaker 9: what's the big deal, you know, not understanding what goes
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  Speaker 9: into that, and that there's hundreds of millions and billions
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  Speaker 9: of dollars invested in these sorts of projects and the
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  Speaker 9: message that it says. It's a terrible thing, this bubble,
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  Speaker 9: because it's isolating the government from the people as well.
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  Speaker 9: And I think that's why you saw that resignation of
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  Speaker 9: Mason from the Press office there is because they're so
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  Speaker 9: deeply involved in that bubble that they don't know how
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  Speaker 9: to communicate anymore. I think with real Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you talk about him living in social housing
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  Speaker 2: and that's his only reference to sort of being in
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  Speaker 2: the real world. But that was fifty years ago, so
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  Speaker 2: I think that's going to come in a greater scrutiny
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  Speaker 2: as he gets into the election. You know, in and
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  Speaker 2: out of limousines, million dollar mansions. You know, I know
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  Speaker 2: every Prime Minister lives in those places. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: unlike Tony Abbott, he's not out there still at the
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  Speaker 2: fire rigate. He's not connected with real people. The hard
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  Speaker 2: left Labour sort of apparachik that he is. That's his
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  Speaker 2: friend group, that's his mates, that's where he spends his time,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it shows. And then you look at
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  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers, I mean coming out and attacking the Reserve Bank,
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  Speaker 2: saying that they're smashing the economy. This says to me,
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  Speaker 2: cam he's trying to take out a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: insurance ahead of that data where we expect to see
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday. That says, you know, we're basically ground to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: our hold in economic growth terms.
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: Yeah, the numbers are going to be shocking on Wednesday,
• 19:06
  Speaker 11: Peter are They're said to confirm Australia's economy growing as
• 19:09
  Speaker 11: slow as it did. They could take COVID out of
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: the equation since the early nineteen nineties and of course
• 19:13
  Speaker 11: the recession. Paul Keating said that we had to have
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: Look what we've really seen today in the most maybe
• 19:18
  Speaker 11: explicit way it has been today, is the Treasurer trying
• 19:22
  Speaker 11: to wrestle back control of the economic narrative. But I
• 19:25
  Speaker 11: think that really goes back to a fundamental difference now
• 19:28
  Speaker 11: between the Reserve Bank and the Treasurer in how they
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: think Australia's economy is faring right now. Remember the little
• 19:35
  Speaker 11: dispute that came public about two three weeks ago. Now
• 19:38
  Speaker 11: the Reserve Bank said, look, the economy is running a
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: bit hot. They were pointing to inflation, and within about
• 19:44
  Speaker 11: an hour I think it was beforehand. But the point stands.
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: The Treasurer said no, the economy is not running hot
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: at all, and he was pointing to GDP and slow
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: economic growth. So somehow the Gallagher brothers from Oasis have
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: found common ground. The Treasurer and the RBA can't on
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: the basic state of the economy. That is a and
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: when you're trying to sell a narrative and could say people, hey,
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: we're on top of this economic situation, that's difficult. If
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: the messaging isn't the same page.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And they're desperate with their messaging. I'll listen to them
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. They're all out there crowing labor ministers
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and front benches that they've just helped people out with
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: more money for rent assistance, more money for job seeker
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: James Morrow. This is the automatic standard indexation that happens
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: under all governments at all times. It shows how under
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: pressure they are on cost of living though.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it shows that they're under pressure, Peter. And it
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: also shows how out of ideas they are on anything
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: about actually reforming the economy, right, because all we've got
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: here is, hey, you're getting more money if you're this
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: category or that category or pressure or whatever, you're getting
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: more money. Fine, Okay, but that's just a Dix session.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: As you say, at the same time, what are they doing, Well, oh, well,
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: we're going to just throw somebody at your power bills.
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: But they aren't doing anything to actually bring power prey
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: is down in any real term. They aren't doing anything
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: to make the workplace more flexible. In fact, they've gone
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: exactly the opposite road to that. So every single thing
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: that they're doing is actually making the situation worse. Than
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: to crow about this indexation, well, I mean, the only
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: thing that we really need to be talking about indexing
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: right now are the tax rate so that we don't
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: get this monstrous bracket creep, which is one of the
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: things that's also crushing the economy.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: James, before we go, I've got to ask you about
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: this interview on Friday, Kamala Harris, Tim Waltz set down
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the first official could be the only official interview we're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: going to see. I've got this response from the Vice
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: President obviously. Candidate now spoke Volumes, have a listen.
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: If you are elected, what would you do on day
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: one in the White House?
• 21:46
  Speaker 13: Well, there are a number of things I will tell you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 13: First and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to
• 21:53
  Speaker 13: do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class.
• 21:58
  Speaker 13: When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: of the American people, I think that people are ready
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: for a new way forward.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: First of all, looked like she was in a police
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: interview and she had you know, Tim Waltz sitting there
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: like her lawyer, ready to jump in if she got
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: us up into trouble. But what leader doesn't know what
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: they want to do day one in the top job?
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, seriously, Peter, you worked on countless political campaigns.
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: You know this is the first thing that a candidate's
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: going to be asked, is what will you do on
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: day one? She looked like Bart Simpson giving that book
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: report on Treasure Island when he hadn't read the book.
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: She didn't know what she was talking about. It was
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: all just you know, motherhood statements and such. Beyond that, though,
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: she's got a big problem here because you know, day
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: one was really three and a half years ago for
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: Kamala Harris. She's been in that White House for almost
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: four years now as the vice president. So what's she
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: going to be doing now? Running from the Biden Harris record?
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: This is a huge problem. I think for her, this
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: is why we probably want to see another big interview,
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: if we can call that an interview, and we may
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: even see her figure out or confect some way to
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: get out of the coming debate.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Jens, thank you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yesterday for the months of speculation, the Muslim Votes Matter
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: group officially launched their national campaign in the Melbourne suburb
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of broad Meadows.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: The group has stated it won't be running candidates or
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: providing financial resources. However, it will campaign for candidates that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: they say align with their values. We're told they're eyeing
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: something like twenty seven federal seats across the country, where
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Muslim voters make up anywhere from three to thirty percent
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: of the population Right now, most of those seats are
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: held by labor. Here's a bit of what the group's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: spokesman had to say at yesterday's launch.
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: We are not a political party and we have no
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: intention of ever becoming a political party. The real issue
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: we have as a community in this country is, for
• 23:58
  Speaker 14: too long our community taken for granted by both sides
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: of politics, and our voice isn't being heard.
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: It's been silent.
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: Once the election is called, we will narrow our focus
• 24:08
  Speaker 14: into a smaller number of seats we will campaign on
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: the ground in but we will do general awareness and advocacy.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Cross all of those seats. The school cards that are.
• 24:17
  Speaker 14: On our website right now are entirely around what those
• 24:20
  Speaker 14: politicians have said or done in Parliament with respect to
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: the unfolding genociding Gaza.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: A Right, Jodeman out against analysis and all of these.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Kod Samaras director of red Bridge Polling, because thank you
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: for your time. I know you know these areas of
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Melbourne very well, and I know you poll very heavily
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: across the country.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Two seats.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: We know that they're looking at the seat of Watson
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Hell of course by Tony Burke, Jason Claire's neighboring seat
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: of Blaxland.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Clearly there's targets in Melbourne as well.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Where else do you think they're going to be looking
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: at to make inroads here?
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: That's primarily it, I think.
• 24:57
  Speaker 15: And if you look at where they can actually cause
• 24:58
  Speaker 15: them the most image with the least amount of money,
• 25:01
  Speaker 15: it's going to be in Watson Blackland. They were in
• 25:04
  Speaker 15: broad Meadows, my home counsel to speak as well, I
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: grew up yesterday and that's in the federal set of
• 25:10
  Speaker 15: call well, again very heavy populated area in terms of
• 25:14
  Speaker 15: Muslim Muslim Australians, and that's where they're going to cause
• 25:17
  Speaker 15: the damage, and possibly in the federal set of wills.
• 25:20
  Speaker 15: There is a significant Muslim population in the northern part
• 25:22
  Speaker 15: of the electorate as well.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Well. What's their objective here?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I mean they said there that they're not interested in
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: forming a political party. So are they sort of like
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a get up or a climate two hundred without the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: financing arm Do they want to use this as a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: foothold to build on at each election? Are they sort
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: of running that model that we're set in the UK?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 25:45
  Speaker 15: I think that's what we're looking at. And it's also
• 25:48
  Speaker 15: a manifestation of what I would define is many, many
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: years of this community being neglected by for only the
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: Labor Party. So you know, we're talking about Labor Party
• 25:57
  Speaker 15: seats here, we're talking about very safe, once safe Labor
• 26:01
  Speaker 15: Party seats, particularly in Victoria and New South Wales. And
• 26:06
  Speaker 15: they've had enough And it's not really just about Ghazas.
• 26:09
  Speaker 15: So when we interview young Wislim Australians, they will talk
• 26:11
  Speaker 15: to us for hours about the years and years have
• 26:14
  Speaker 15: just been feeling like they're basically their voices are not heard. Economically,
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: they're doing it pretty tough. They've got really hurt severely
• 26:20
  Speaker 15: during lockdowns here in Melbourne and over policed. That had
• 26:25
  Speaker 15: a massive impact on in terms of their view with
• 26:28
  Speaker 15: regards to the Labor Party. And we saw those very
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: big swings against Labor at a state level in twenty
• 26:33
  Speaker 15: twenty two in these same suburbs.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So this is about feeling forgotten. And I suspect, you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with large families, they would be doing it tough in cost.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Of living terms.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: If they're not going to pick candidates, they'll be influential
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: though in the candidates that emerge, because they're not going
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: to back someone that they don't think signs up to them,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Muslim values, whatever they might want to put out as
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: a brand. How involved are they going to be do
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 27:03
  Speaker 15: Well, I think they'll pick, they'll back there, They'll throw
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: their money behind candidates they think will potentially unseat Labor.
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: So if we look at let's say the federal seat
• 27:15
  Speaker 15: of Call, its primary vote is going to probably end
• 27:18
  Speaker 15: up in a thirty somewhere. This is a seat, once
• 27:20
  Speaker 15: upon a time had a primary vote for Labor in
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: excess to sixty percent, and over a number of years
• 27:26
  Speaker 15: and numbers, probably since twenty thirteen, we've seen a continuous
• 27:30
  Speaker 15: decline in the primary vote for Labor and it's been
• 27:32
  Speaker 15: driven by young Muslim restrains opting for independence. Now it
• 27:37
  Speaker 15: will be a point where whether an independent gets selected
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: or where by chance, a liberal candidate gets elected, because
• 27:43
  Speaker 15: once Labour's primary vote collapses to a certain point, anything
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: could happen.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: So how does Labor contend with this?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Do they go out of their way to pre select
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: their own Muslim candidates to cut this off at the knees,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: or do they address the concerns have a more strident
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: position on guards or is that where they go.
• 28:04
  Speaker 15: Well, look, the real solution for them is they start
• 28:08
  Speaker 15: preselecting diverse candidates where there are vacancies that may occur
• 28:12
  Speaker 15: in the federal set of call or that we have
• 28:13
  Speaker 15: a retirement there. It may not occur in the federal
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: seat of Gorton, which is the neighboring electric They do
• 28:19
  Speaker 15: have a terrible habit of picking non diverse candidates for
• 28:22
  Speaker 15: these very diverse, complex electorates.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: That might change.
• 28:26
  Speaker 15: They also might want to start representing them economically as well,
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: and that will fix their problem because they'll never be
• 28:31
  Speaker 15: able to quench that other first which is doing enough
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: to allay Muslim Australians concerns with regards to the conflicting
• 28:42
  Speaker 15: guards that that's not going to be a first ac
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: and quench. So they've got other tools at their disposal,
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: but I'm not seeing much evidence at the moment.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about your survey out today that says
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: only twenty four percent of Australians can name a single
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: action by the current federal government that positively impacted their
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: lives meeting what two quarters of the three quarters of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: them could not name anything that was helping.
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: Them, including thirty two percent of labor voters too. And
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: when we look at the age yeah, age brackets eighteen
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: to thirty four year olds were the lowest they've done,
• 29:15
  Speaker 15: a fifteen percent.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: So I think.
• 29:19
  Speaker 15: Albanese's office has got some communication problems here because they're
• 29:22
  Speaker 15: clearly not getting that message out.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Well, they've just lost their senior pressek has gone after
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: defact that was announced about two hours ago. All this
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: talk about an early election seems to have fallen away
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: given the state of the economy and it's blue with
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the RBA. Give us your sense of whether that's still
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a potential And this decision by the Prime Minister or
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: certainly briefing out today that he's not going to get
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: married until.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: After the election.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: The line was it would be a distraction, but I
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: think perhaps in the cost of living crisis it might
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: have looked a bit tone deaf.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 15: Look, the training they needed to catch to avoid this
• 30:00
  Speaker 15: mess they're in right now was at the beginning of
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: twenty twenty three, when the affordability crisis was beginning to
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: pick up speed. They needed to get on that narrative
• 30:09
  Speaker 15: and show empathy to Australians that things were going to
• 30:12
  Speaker 15: get tough and that they as a government were going
• 30:15
  Speaker 15: to be in their corner all the time.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: It took about the beginning of twenty.
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: Twenty four for some of that some of that narrative
• 30:21
  Speaker 15: to start taking shape in the form of the Stage
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: three tax.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Cuts, but by that time it was too late.
• 30:27
  Speaker 15: Now we've got a situation now where thousands upon thousands
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: of Australian households moved from the black to the red
• 30:34
  Speaker 15: every month.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: So it's really now a game of attrition.
• 30:38
  Speaker 15: The longer they leave calling this election, the more damage
• 30:41
  Speaker 15: they may inflict on their primary in.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Particularly these mortgage stress electorates.
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: And if they go too early, then the politics and
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: the dynamics are not probably aligned with them either. So
• 30:52
  Speaker 15: it's going to be pretty tough for them.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's a Hobbs's choice, and I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: with you. The longer they lead it, they've got very
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: little wriggle room. Once they get to sort of you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: March and April, if things are really really tough, they've
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: got to call it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: Anyway, that's right, that's right, and if you know, the
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: inflationary crisis is going to continue. And the other thing
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: I like to point out is that all these households
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: that we're talking about, for a lot of the younger ones,
• 31:17
  Speaker 15: the young these are parents with very young children with.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Very significant mortgages.
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: They're going to take a decade to recover from this.
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: So it isn't just like one interest rate drop and
• 31:28
  Speaker 15: things are fixed. It's going to take a long time
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: and they're going to hold grievance for a long time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Very shrewd, cause, thank you for your time. After the break,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: taxpayer is treated like muggins yet again. Victorian government now
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: effectively funding in the Commonwealth Games in Scotland, and by
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: poor old Victorian taxpayers money.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Plus even more gender madness.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Little boys and girls as young as five are now
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: going to be asked their preferred gender pronouns before they
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: borrow a book from the local library. Welcome back still
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: to come, the brilliant Chris Merritt calling out what he
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: calls indigenous mythology of first nations. There have never been
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: sovereign Indigenous nations, he says, and the High Court in
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the Marbo case.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Agrees with him.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: The first yet again, poor old Victorian taxpay has been
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: taken for a ride. News over the weekend that Victorians
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: will pick out the tab for the twenty twenty six
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games in Scotland. That's because when Daniel Andrews canceled
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the Games, he paid almost four hundred million dollars in
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: compensation on top of the millions already wasted in games preparations.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And it's this money that Scotland will use to fully
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: fund the Games in Glasgow. Well, good deal for them,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Not so good for poor old Victorians in a state
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that's already drowning in debt. Joined to be how to
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: discuss this and more. Shadow Education Minister Senator Sarah Henderson. Well,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you're a Victorian Senator.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: How can Scotland fund the games unless of what Melbourne
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: paid to counsel them?
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: Peter good evening, and this is an international embarrassment. Good
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: on Scotland for taking on the games after what Daniel
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: Andrews did to regional Victoria, including here in Geelong as
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: well as Ballarette and Bendigo, promised to deliver these games
• 33:25
  Speaker 16: and then of course the costs blew out to an
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: unbelievable six point nine billion dollars and we know it
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: was unbelievable because the Order to General said so. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 16: it's just another illustration of how the Labor party here
• 33:37
  Speaker 16: in Victoria is running this state off the cliff. A
• 33:41
  Speaker 16: shocking international embarrassment. And as the Shadow Sports Minister here
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: in Victoria, Sam Groff has said, so, well, you know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: What does it say about Victoria when.
• 33:53
  Speaker 16: Scotland can host the games for half of what we
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: paid in compensation?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And Daniel, and is your right to remind us so
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the games would cost six billion dollars six billion dollars.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Scotland can put it on for two hundred million labor
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: can't add up.
• 34:15
  Speaker 16: No, because originally the first forecast Peter was two point
• 34:18
  Speaker 16: one billion, then it went in fact to six point
• 34:21
  Speaker 16: nine billion. The Order to General here in Victoria said
• 34:24
  Speaker 16: they were two point one billion dollars out. It was
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: an absolute shambles. But it just goes to show how
• 34:32
  Speaker 16: basically irresponsible this government is in Victoria. They are running
• 34:37
  Speaker 16: this state broke. The quicker we get rid of labor
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: in Victoria, and of course federally, the better, but it
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: is a just an example of how out of depth
• 34:47
  Speaker 16: this government is. And the fact that Daniel Andrews had
• 34:50
  Speaker 16: the temerity to say, oh no, that's because the cost
• 34:54
  Speaker 16: were too high, when we can see the games could
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: be run in another country in Glasgow for a couple
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: of hundred million dollars an absolute international embarrassment. And now
• 35:05
  Speaker 16: Victoria is pitching to host the Gay Games.
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: What a joke.
• 35:09
  Speaker 16: Why would any games want to come to this state
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: after the way Daniel Andrews and labor and now Justinto
• 35:17
  Speaker 16: Allen has trashed our reputation.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And why should put our textpayers allow the Victorian goavern
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: to waste more money. Let's go to your portfolio because
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: in Victoria we saw announced over the weekend something called
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the Rainbow Toolkit. It's been rolled out across all public
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: libraries in the state, which, amongst other things, will demand
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: librarian staff to ask children what their preferred pronouns might be,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: tells the staff to avoid gendered language, and to offer
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the kids a pronoun.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Badge or a pin or a lanyard.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Now these kids, we're talking about Senator as young as five,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I bet they don't even know what a pronoun is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: This is something that's squarely for parents to talk about,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: not when they go to borrow a book getting a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: lesson and gender theory.
• 36:09
  Speaker 16: Well, Peter, as you said before, this is absolute gender madness.
• 36:13
  Speaker 16: And it just goes to show how toxic this government
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  Speaker 16: is here in Victoria. What is Justinta Allen doing. I mean,
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  Speaker 16: this is an absolute embarrassment. But more than that, it's
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  Speaker 16: really serious because this is blatant in doctrination of very
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  Speaker 16: young children, and we are seeing this right across our
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  Speaker 16: education system.
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  Speaker 3: And parents have had a gut full. They do not want.
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  Speaker 16: Identity politics or whether it's on race, on gender, on
• 36:37
  Speaker 16: any other issue, and they do not want their children
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  Speaker 16: indoctrinated and I just wanted to refer to This is
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: not just going on in library's, Peter, this is also
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  Speaker 16: going on in early learning centers, and I just want
• 36:50
  Speaker 16: to refer to the Early Learning Years framework. So this
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  Speaker 16: is for children under five in childcarese centers across this
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  Speaker 16: country under the Albanezi government, and one of the guidelines
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  Speaker 16: is educators are encouraged courage to draw upon a range
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  Speaker 16: of perspectives in their work, which may include feminist and
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  Speaker 16: post structuralist theories that offer insights into issues of power,
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  Speaker 16: equity and social justice in early childhood settings. Now, that
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  Speaker 16: is the sort of garbage that our young educators are
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  Speaker 16: being taught. It is completely disgusting and frankly, it is
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  Speaker 16: no wonder that parents are leaving some schools in droves
• 37:30
  Speaker 16: and early childhood settings when they see this sort of
• 37:33
  Speaker 16: rubbish going.
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  Speaker 2: On and that plane results in the toilet and internationally
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  Speaker 2: we're a basket case.
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Henderson, thank you. After the break?
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Is the tide really turning on race based mantras such
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: as acknowledgements of country? Plus a bit later on, why
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: are energy policy is now based on a wing and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a prayer? As an East Coast gas crisis looms and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: exports experts worn will soon be forced to import gas
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: from overseas.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Licalm the PM's travel plans and what it tells me
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  Speaker 2: about labor in Western Australia at first. Last week, Victoria
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed at Lana Kolaris wrote an opinion piece for Australian
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: newspaper explaining her decision not to do an acknowledgment of
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: country at Victorian Bar Council meetings. Lana Claris wrote that
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: acknowledgments of country and not about showing respect their political
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: statements signaling support for a two tiers system based on race.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: This view was backed up by Chris Merritt on the
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: weekend or Friday indeed, saying that Ms Kolaris was right
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to highlight the fact, but the guy in Prince the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: constitutional principle in this country is now a quality of citizenship,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: not the race based division that blighted earlier years.
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  Speaker 3: It welcomes to and acknowledgments.
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  Speaker 2: Of country can give off the impression that Indigenous Australians
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  Speaker 2: are the true sovereigns of this land.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know I disagree, and I know you do too.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Chris Merritt joins me.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Chris, you've written this idea that sovereign indigenous nation's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: material the line is an Australian myth.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean by.
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  Speaker 12: That, Well, it's at odds with reality.
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  Speaker 17: There was a very important case in nineteen seventy nine
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  Speaker 17: where Justice Harry Gibbs was asked to rule that Captain
• 39:26
  Speaker 17: Cook and Arthur Phillip were wrong when they took possession
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  Speaker 17: of pre existing sovereign Aboriginal nation, and Justice Gibbs, with
• 39:37
  Speaker 17: the agreement of Justice Keith.
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  Speaker 12: Aitken, rejected that entirely.
• 39:44
  Speaker 17: Gibbs went back and had a look at the history
• 39:46
  Speaker 17: of the contact, the initial contact between white settlers and
• 39:51
  Speaker 17: this continent and Aboriginal people, and he made the point
• 39:55
  Speaker 17: that that history was completely different to the history in
• 40:00
  Speaker 17: the United States, where the US Supreme Court actually recognized
• 40:05
  Speaker 17: a sovereign dependent nation, the Cherokee Nation, as a separate
• 40:11
  Speaker 17: political entity.
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  Speaker 12: And Gibbs made the point that that is not the reality,
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  Speaker 12: or was not the reality.
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  Speaker 17: In this country. That decision, the co decision in seventy nine,
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  Speaker 17: is the authority for the assertion that there was no
• 40:27
  Speaker 17: sovereign Aboriginal nation. There was no sovereignty deced It was
• 40:33
  Speaker 17: followed by a number of decisions which went in the
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: same direction. The Great Marbo decision, which recognized native title,
• 40:43
  Speaker 17: also made the point that native title did not mean
• 40:47
  Speaker 17: recognizing Aboriginal sovereignty.
• 40:49
  Speaker 12: It specifically rejected.
• 40:51
  Speaker 17: That, and that point was explained in many subsequent High
• 40:57
  Speaker 17: Court decisions, among them the notorious Love decision, where Chief
• 41:04
  Speaker 17: Justice keef Wele in descent made the point that the
• 41:08
  Speaker 17: majority was heading off in a direction that had been
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  Speaker 17: completely rejected in Marlbo i e.
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  Speaker 12: No Indigenous sovereignty. Now, the point about.
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  Speaker 2: This, Chris, can I just jump in there just on that.
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  Speaker 2: The difference so people at home can follow the jurisprudence
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  Speaker 2: here is that the Cherokee Nation governed as a nation.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: It had boundaries, it had hierarchies, it had a formalized
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: governance structure, it had a finance system, it had a
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: legal system of its own.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And what we had in Australia was nothing like that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Highly nomadic people, you know, lands that were not always
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: clearly delineated, and we can see that in a number
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: of cases over resources at the moment, and also in
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: ability to say with clarity who controls.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: That river and that mountain?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And Sea Coast, and I think what's come out of that,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the difference between the two has prompted this constant use
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: to the term First Nations to try and create, by
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: constant refrain in nomenclature what is not there at law
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and which has been considered by the High Court to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: not be there at law.
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  Speaker 17: It's a problem of lack of rigor. Once you adopt
• 42:22
  Speaker 17: language which is not supported by legal reality, there's a
• 42:26
  Speaker 17: risk that public policy could head off in all sorts
• 42:29
  Speaker 17: of directions that have nothing to do with this country's history.
• 42:36
  Speaker 17: It's very worrying when we import terminology from another jurisdiction
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  Speaker 17: with a completely different history to our history. There's nothing
• 42:44
  Speaker 17: wrong with our history. There's nothing wrong with the history
• 42:48
  Speaker 17: of Indigenous people in this country, and it's very worrying
• 42:52
  Speaker 17: that the reality of that history is not being taught.
• 42:57
  Speaker 17: What is being taught and a spouse lost by business
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  Speaker 17: and leaders in society, is that there were actually Indigenous nations.
• 43:07
  Speaker 17: There were not, and to refer to indigenous First Nations
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: is to perpetuate that sovereignty. How many times have we
• 43:16
  Speaker 17: heard expressions at the beginning of webinars that we meet
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: on the land of people whose sovereignty has never been seated.
• 43:25
  Speaker 17: There was no sovereignty. There was a deep spiritual relationship
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: to the land. And the more thoughtful elements in legal
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: academia trying very hard to reinterpret the word sovereignty in
• 43:41
  Speaker 17: a way that implies this deep spirit link to the land.
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: It would be far better to dump this misleading term
• 43:50
  Speaker 17: and actually refer to the reality of a deep spirit
• 43:54
  Speaker 17: link to the land instead of this confusing term of sovereignty. Nationhood,
• 44:01
  Speaker 17: the first nation that arose on this continent arose in
• 44:04
  Speaker 17: nineteen hundred and one with the Commonwealth of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: We'll leave it there, Chris, I think the tide is turning.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: When you're getting people like Lana Kolaris take on the
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Bar Council in woke old Victoria. Something's happening. Something's absolutely happening,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 44:20
  Speaker 15: All right.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: After the break, experts warn Australia they soon have to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: import LNG as a gas crisis looms, despitely rich in gas,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: and the PM says no responsibility at all for Blaney
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Gold Mines.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with him. We've talked about that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: After break.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Let's bring my Monday Panel lp MP Keith
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Pitt and change Today the Senior Environment Minister, Senator Jonathan
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: dunniam Well, gents, welcome gas experts, warning despout all the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: gas in the ground. We may well have to import
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: ll and G as the East Coast faces living shortages.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, this will drive up the price of domestic gas, Keith.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: The industry is saying fingers crossed. They're hoping and praying
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: will get through what's expected to be a warm summer
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: and winter next year.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: But hoping in praying is no energy strategy, is it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 18: Hopes and prayers will never top engineering, engineering, physics and economics. Peter,
• 45:20
  Speaker 18: And what will we see now? We'll see contractor gas
• 45:23
  Speaker 18: out of Gladston, turned around in the ship and sent
• 45:25
  Speaker 18: to Victoria because Victoria doesn't develop its own gas. I mean,
• 45:29
  Speaker 18: what a ridiculous scenario. We are one of the biggest
• 45:32
  Speaker 18: exporters of gas in the world, and now we find
• 45:35
  Speaker 18: ourselves in a situation because state governments won't do what's necessary.
• 45:38
  Speaker 12: We're going to have.
• 45:39
  Speaker 18: To utilize someone else's gas to keep the lights on
• 45:42
  Speaker 18: in Victoria.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, Senator, This goldmine fiasco has not gone away,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: even to day, there's more out there. We know that
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Regis warned the Prime Minister. They wrote directly to the
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister that Indigenous Heritage Order would kill off the.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Mark Warren Mundine.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: He's concerned about the integrity of the decision. This Aboriginal
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Corporation eighteen only members sort about ranking the local Land Council.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: He says, it stinks like a bad smell.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, it does stink like a
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: bad sman. I mean, let's be honest. If you've united
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the Labor Premier, Labor Environment Minister of the EPA, the
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Local Aboriginal Land Council, royalc or Rudgi Elder and the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: federal opposition, you must be getting something wrong. And for
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the government to continue to persist with this mad idea
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that they did the right thing to allow this company
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: to get to this stage, having for five years worked
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: on federal and state environmental and planning approvals and getting
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: all of them, including working with local Indigenous groups to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: secure every approval they needed. At this point, knock it
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: on the head. Just smacks of something very wrong in
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Tanya plub six thinking. And I think it comes down
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to one thing, and that is pursuing Green votes in
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: her electorate in Sydney at the expense of regional jobs
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and of course that much needed economic boost in regional Australia.
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: Keith.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: About now I start to look at the pattern of
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: travel of the two leaders because we could.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Be an election eminently.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think we will be, but certainly it's on
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the cards before the end of the year, certainly by
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: May next year. And I'm watching how often the Prime
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Minister's forced to get over to Perth. I think he's
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: in real trouble in Perth.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: What are you hearing?
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: I'd like to think he's in real trouble everywhere, Peter,
• 47:36
  Speaker 18: every state and every territory. That'd make me feel a
• 47:39
  Speaker 18: lot better. But Western Australia is a problem for them
• 47:42
  Speaker 18: because it's a resource state, just like Queensland, and the
• 47:45
  Speaker 18: resources sector knows that this is a government that prefers
• 47:48
  Speaker 18: the Green vote. It would rather fund the Environmental Defender's
• 47:51
  Speaker 18: Office than the Beterloo basin. And we see these announcements
• 47:54
  Speaker 18: to day around orcus and apprentices, Well, what's wrong with
• 47:57
  Speaker 18: the ones that you'd put on a block of concrete
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: on shore? What about apprentices for those I think there's
• 48:02
  Speaker 18: opportunities there as well, but the Australian people won't be fooled.
• 48:06
  Speaker 18: And I think this slabor government it is on the nose.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I think you're right there.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Parks Victoria said at a Daney reportedly using him spy
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: cameras there's are buried in the bullshe or put on
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a rock face in order to catch out people who
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: are say climbing the rock at the Grampy International Park.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Because there's now in place, all these cultural heritage bands
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: and climbers have been warned off. Areas have been closed off.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: But I mean to have spy cameras, I think it's extraordinary.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Well it is, but this is an extraordinary government, Peter.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got rapists, murderers, horrible people out there
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: doing terrible things in the community, and their priority is
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to spend that taxpayers money, which is fast running out
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: in the state of Victoria. As we saw in their
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: recent budget, they've well overspent what they have available to them.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Spy cameras in national parks to enforce cultural heritage laws.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it is ridiculous aid to close
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: off parts of our country to people who should be
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: able to access that These bands on access I do
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think are a terrible thing. But then to have these
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: sort of hidden cameras and Cultural Heritage police enforcing it,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with our country? What a waste of money,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and they should stop doing it immediately.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: National park site, national enough and certainly open to all Australians.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: It would seem gentlemen. Thank you, See you both next week.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I've got a big story too, in relation to local
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: councils letting off international wind farms and solar farms for
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: paying the fees that you pay the farmers are paying.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: We'll get into that tomorrow though. Up next and your
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: bod