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”Stand Forever” Ep. 17 | The Truth—Who Are You? Part I | Elder Lawrence E. Corbridge · Scripture Central

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  Both God and Satan spoke the truth.
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  God speaks to the divine nature. Satan speaks to the carnal.
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  It is a matter of which one we choose to hear, which is
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  emphasized and which is fed. When the Lord speaks of liars, I
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  think he's Speaking of people who have become dishonest.
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  The question is not have you ever told a lie, rather are you
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  honest? 2 bad things happen whenever you
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  lie. First the truth goes wanting but
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  the second is worse. You are not only in the likeness
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  or image of God physically you are divine through and through
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  spiritually. Pure blood, first generation son
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  or daughter of God. There is a valuable question we
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  should all answer from time to time.
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  The question is a simple one, who am I?
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  My name is Larry Corbridge and this is episode 17 of the Stand
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  Forever series. To chart your course in life,
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  you must know where you want to go.
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  That's point B. And then get a fix on where you
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  are point A. Only then can can you chart a
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  course in between the two. And again, what is point B?
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  What is the destination? Life is about getting to the
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  getting to the end, getting to the destination, reunion with
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  God, receiving the gift of God's Son, God's Spirit and God's life
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  and helping others do do the same and in that process become
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  like the more like the Lord Jesus Christ.
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  More concisely, it is to partake of the fruit of the tree of life
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  and help others do the same. That's the destination.
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  That's point B. But what about point A, taking
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  your bearings as to who and where you are?
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  We can only do that in the light of truth, and Jesus Christ is
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  the truth. There is a valuable question we
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  should answer from time to time. As I already mentioned, the
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  question may be the most critical question to evaluate
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  your current station condition and standing in life.
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  Again, the question is simply who am I?
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  You become what you think and do and you think and do according
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  to who you think you are. You do much of what you do
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  because it aligns with how you view yourself.
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  Who you think you are. Who am I should be addressed
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  from time to time because the complete answer changes as you
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  change to some extent and one way or the other you are always
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  changing. Getting a fix on who you are and
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  where you are is essential to staying on course.
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  A woman chose to marry a man to please her father.
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  She lived through years of abuse until the marriage ultimately
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  failed. Her state president said she
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  tried to make her marriage work, but in the efforts to please
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  others, she lost track of who she was.
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  Another woman's comment is typical when looking back on an
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  abusive relationship, she said. My thoughts and emotions and my
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  actions changed so completely that my parents and friends
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  could not find the person they had known, known and loved.
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  I had little self esteem and no confidence.
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  I lost myself. I didn't know who I was.
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  A man. Another example who walked a
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  long and dark Rd. of immorality and infidelity said this during
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  the period of my transgressions. I was selfish, selfish,
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  reckless, hard hearted and living without integrity.
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  I had become something foreign even to myself and was rushing
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  headlong down a path Into Darkness.
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  The term gall of bitterness was used by both Paul and Alma to
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  describe living without God and moral foundation.
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  I knew he said that feeling and wanted to change.
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  End Quote. Another who struggled with
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  pornography and consequent infidelity to his wife said
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  this. I'm not a good person.
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  This is what he said to his wife.
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  I'm not a good person nor can I be, so we shouldn't be together.
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  That's the end of that quote. Withdrawal of church membership
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  and divorce were then the result.
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  How you view yourself and getting a fix on who you really
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  are may be more important than where we are.
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  Those few who have a clear definition and vision of who
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  they are are more settled and usually accomplished more, elder
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  Peter Johnson taught. If we do not understand who we
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  are, then it is difficult to recognize who we can become.
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  Who am I? Is a question not often asked
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  because you usually think you know who you are.
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  But you can easily. We can easily be deceived.
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  The great mist of darkness is very real and you do not always
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  see yourself clearly. Occasionally the circumstances
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  of life may press the question upon you.
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  Occasionally you may be forced to wonder, who am I really and
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  who am I becoming? To see yourself clearly requires
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  careful attention. You must watch yourself, not
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  only in the sense of being careful, but from the from the
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  outside looking in, trying to see yourself as others do.
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  The most helpful class for me in law school was involved the
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  process of reviewing with two law professors a previously
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  recorded video of me making an oral argument in court.
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  I was always surprised that I looked, spoke, and acted
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  differently than what I thought. It was always gut wrenching,
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  usually discouraging, but always enlight.
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  Enlightening and enormously helpful.
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  To see myself as others do. To see the truth because we
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  rarely do. As a newly called state
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  president, I had an executive secretary who I think was
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  probably one of the three Nephites.
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  He only served with me for a few months and then he was gone,
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  never to be seen again. He was most helpful because he
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  was willing to help me see myself as others did.
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  On one occasion he said, president, you said I 12 times
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  in that meeting, meaning I the state president rather than we
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  the state presidency. On another occasion he said,
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  president, sometimes your sentences are so long people get
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  lost in them. Maybe it would be better if you
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  spoke in shorter sentences. You can tell I haven't improved
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  much on that count. Like like the class in law
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  school. His feedback was always helpful
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  and I I was never offended because I knew he was motivated
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  by love and a desire to help me see more clearly, to see myself
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  more clearly and be the best president I could be for the
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  benefit of the stake. That kind of honesty is rare.
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  It is very rare, King Benjamin said.
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  But this much I can tell you, that if you do not watch
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  yourselves and your thoughts, and your words, your deeds, and
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  observe the commandments of God, and continue in faith of what
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  you have heard concerning the coming of the Lord, even unto
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  the end of your lives, ye must perish.
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  Pretty daunting ye must perish. And now he said, All man
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  remember and perish, not more than watch out or be be careful.
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  King Benjamin says, observe yourself, pay attention to what
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  you do and say, watch yourself. Alma admonished, said something
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  similar. He said, Watch and pray
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  continually, that you may not be tempted above that which you can
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  bear, and thus be led by the Holy Spirit.
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  When Jesus administered the sacrament to the multitude of
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  the Nephites, he said to his disciples, Verily, verily, I say
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  unto you, Ye must watch and pray always, lest you be tempted by
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  the devil, and ye be LED away captive by him.
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  He turned again unto the multitude, and said unto thee,
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  unto them, Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye must
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  watch and pray always, lest you enter into temptation.
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  For Satan desireth to have you, that he may sift you as wheat,
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  as you, as you watch yourself, as you look inward to get a fix
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  on who you are. Nothing is more essential than
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  honesty. Without honesty, you will fail.
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  People can deal with almost anything so long as they are
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  dealing with the truth. Integrity is absolutely
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  essential. It is vital.
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  From the dawning of time, one of the most fundamental
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  commandments has been to tell the truth, live with honor, and
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  do what you say you will do in the same divine breath.
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  As thou shalt not kill, and thou shalt not commit adultery, we
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  have thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
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  Speaking of those who will be in in condition for telestial
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  glory, the Lord said this again. This is telestial glory.
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  These are they who are liars and sorcerers and adulterers and
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  whoremongers. And then he and then he says
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  whosoever loves and makes a lie, he mentions lying twice.
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  Now before we think we're all doomed and throw in the towel, I
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  should say what I think the Lord means by liars.
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  Not everyone and anyone who every told ever told a lie is
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  swept into the same black bucket.
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  Otherwise, we're all doomed. When the Lord speaks of liars, I
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  think he's Speaking of people who have become dishonest.
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  They have become dishonest because of their choices.
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  The question is not have you ever told a lie?
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  Rather, are you honest? Who are you?
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  That's the question. 2 bad things happen whenever you lie.
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  Whenever we shade the truth or allow a falsehood to go
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  unchallenged. First the truth goes wanting,
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  but the second is worse. You become more dishonest.
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  That's the biggest problem. Dishonesty becomes more
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  ingrained in your character, more a part of who you are.
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  That is absolutely true. I think the reason integrity
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  looms so large in the grand scheme of things is because
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  there can be no redemption. There can be no redemption
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  without integrity. No unclean thing can enter the
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  presence of God. And repentance begins with
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  honesty. You can't be forgiven of sins
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  for which you don't repent, and you can't repent of sins you
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  cover or ignore. Repentance begins by owning and
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  acknowledging our sins. Honesty leads to humility.
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  Pride and arrogance are dishonest and delusional.
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  If you see yourself as you really are, in my experience,
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  you will be humble. Humility is the condition of the
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  human spirit. When presently aware of who you
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  are and who God is, It is to recognize the gap.
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  It is to recognize your weakness and absolute dependence on God
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  for every good thing, including breath and the beat of your
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  heart. When Moses saw God face to face,
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  when he experienced His presence, when he saw the
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  workmanship of God's hands and witness His greatness and glory,
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  he honestly said, Now for this, 'cause I know that man is
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  nothing, Which thing I had never supposed.
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  Could it be that in comparison to the greatness and glory of
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  God, Moses saw that the power and capacity of the natural man
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  in his weakness is nothing? Ammon said.
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  I know that I am nothing. As to my strength, I am weak.
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  Integrity and humility are essential to see clearly and get
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  a fix on who and where you are. When we think about the question
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  of who I who am I? Many people of of faith of
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  course interpret that question in the context of the grand
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  scheme of things and they quickly and correctly reply I am
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  a child of God. Members of the Church of Jesus
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  Christ of Latter Day Saints will knee jerk answer that question,
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  having sung I am a child of God from early childhood and there's
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  probably no truth more frequently taught or more
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  important. But although the words are the
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  same, the meaning for Latter Day Saints is vastly different than
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  for others because of different beliefs about who God is.
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  You can't know who you are without knowing who God is.
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  Religions of the world variously believe God to be a divine mind,
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  spirit, truth, three in one and one in three, without form, body
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  parts, passions or human attributes everywhere at the
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  same time, incomprehensible and unknowable.
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  Man is created in the image of God only figuratively, or so
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  they say, but centuries of darkness, centuries of darkness
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  finally gave way to glorious light bursting for from a Grove
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  of trees in the spring of 1820, especially revealing who God is.
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  The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as as
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  man's, and the Son also. But the Holy Ghost has not a
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  body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of spirit.
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  That truth rocked the religious world and continues to
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  reverberate today. Joseph Smith said there are but
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  a very few beings in the world who understand rightly the
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  character of God. The great majority of mankind do
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  not comprehend anything, either that which is past or that which
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  is to come, as it respects their relationship to God.
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  They do not know, he said, neither do they understand the
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  nature of that relationship, and consequently they know but
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  little above the brute, beast, or more than to eat, drink, and
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  sleep. This is all man knows about God
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  or His existence, unless it is given by the inspiration of the
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  Almighty. And then continuing again, these
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  are the words of Joseph Smith. If men listen to this, if men do
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  not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend
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  themselves. God himself was once as we are
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  now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in Yonder
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  heavens. That is the great secret.
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  Again, these are this is still Joseph Smith.
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  If the veil were rent today and the great God who holds this
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  world in his orbit and who upholds all worlds and all
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  things by his power was to make himself visible.
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  I stay if we were to see him today, you would see him like a
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  man in form, like yourselves, and All in all the person, image
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  and very form as a man. For Adam was created in the very
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  fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction
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  from, and walked and talked and conversed with him as one man
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  talks with another. I know this is a long quote, but
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  this is still Joseph Smith. These ideas, he said, are
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  incomprehensible to some, but they are simple.
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  It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty
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  the character of God, and to know that we may converse with
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  Him, that we may converse with Him as one man converses with
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  another, and that he was once man, once was a man like us.
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  Yeah, that God Himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an
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  earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did.
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  End Quote. Long quote.
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  Lorenzo Snow, 5th president of the Church of Jesus Christ of
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  Latter Day Saints, authored the now famous couplet.
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  As man now is, God once was, as God now is, man may become
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  President Dallin H Oaks affirmed the purpose of mortal.
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  Life and the post mortal growth that can follow is for the
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  offspring of God to become as he is.
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  As Joseph Smith said, these ideas are incomprehensible to
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  some, but they are simple. That is especially so for the
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  second-half of the couplet, As as God now is, man may become.
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  Although the idea that man may advance and progress to realize
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  the full measure of his heavenly parentage has especially raised
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  the ire of the religious world, like Christ's declaration to be
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  the Son of God triggered religious rage in his day, it is
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  nonetheless a simple doctrine. It is comprised of only two
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  affirmations. First, I am.
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  Second, I can be better. That's it.
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  That's the whole of it. It only requires the
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  acknowledgement of 1's one simple existence and the
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  possibility of improvement from 1° of light, knowledge and
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  character, the to the next, and on to the next.
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  Unless you dispute either one of those assertions, you must
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  accept the ultimate conclusion, which is a scripture I've quoted
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  to you before. That which is of God is light,
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  and he that receiveth light and continueth in God receiveth more
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  light, and that light groweth brighter and brighter until the
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  perfect day. It is evolution consistent
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  within the species of divine progeny, eclipsing Darwinism in
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  the full measure of its bright conclusion.
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  Darwinism looks back to the origin of man and claims he came
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  from the slime of the sea, evolving over time from one
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  species to another, but capping where he now stands.
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  Fantastic evolution from there to here, but no farther.
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  It either stops here or one must acknowledge the potential for
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  ultimate perfection. The truth also looks back and
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  finds man origin in heaven and looks forward as well to his
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  potential to return from whence he came, but more in the
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  likeness of his heavenly parents in both form and character.
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  CS Lewis famously said it is a serious thing to live in a
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  Society of possible gods and goddesses, to remember that the
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  Dulles most uninteresting person may one day be a creature which,
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  if you saw it now, you would be strongly tempted to worship.
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  There are, he said. There are no ordinary people.
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  Again, that was CS Lewis, we might add.
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  The potential to become extraordinary is so universal as
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  to be ordinary. Nothing is more central to your
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  physical identity than knowing who your parents are.
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  Your DNA is comprised of theirs, which effects your appearance,
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  health and longevity. Physically, your parents were
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  created in the image of God as their parents before them.
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  And on and on and on. Back to our first parents, Adam
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  and Eve, you are the physical likeness and image of God.
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  Spiritually, however, is a different matter.
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  You are not only in the likeness or image of God physically, you
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  are divine through and through spiritually, pure blood
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  spiritually. There is no commingling of
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  ancestral gene pools down through the ages to you.
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  You were not a distant descendant with traces of
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  divinity from from a primordial ancestor long ago.
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  You are first generation son or daughter of God.
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  There is no one, no generation, no one between you and your
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  heavenly parents. No one in between, no one.
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  To speak as I, as I've said before, yeah, I think in a prior
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  episode, to speak of a divine spark within you is a monumental
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  understatement. More than your earthly parents,
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  your heavenly parentage is the essence of who you are.
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  Your earthly parents gave you this marvelous blessing, a body
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  which you animate, which you inhabit.
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  But without you, your body will die, while you will live on.
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  You are endowed with astounding intelligence which permeates
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  every soul and molecule of your body, intelligence which
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  surpasses understanding and yet is undeniable.
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  The Family, a proclamation to the world, states this.
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  Each human being is a beloved spirit, son or daughter of
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  Heavenly Parents, and as such, each has a divine nature and
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  destiny. Ammon and his brother Aaron both
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  taught the same glorious truce with the same result.
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  Ammon taught King Lemona Lemoni, and shortly thereafter Aaron
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  taught Lemoni's father. They must have had the same
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  missionary handbook, because they both taught of God our
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  Father, His creations, our heavenly home, the character of
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  God, who in the words of the Scripture, looketh down upon all
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  the children of men and knows all the thoughts and intents of
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  the heart. That man was created after the
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  image of God, the fall of man and redemption through Christ.
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  In both instances, King Lemoni and his Father, those glorious
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  truths revealed their true identity in God's plan for His
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  children, which infused their souls with light and joy,
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  dispelling the cloud of darkness.
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  No truth is more fundamental, more ennobling, or essential to
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  successfully navigate the dark waters of life than to know of
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  1's divine nature and destiny. But what about what Paul and
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  King Benjamin called the natural man?
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  Are you naturally good or evil? Maybe as long as man has walked
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  the earth, the debate is ensued as to whether man is inherently
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  good or evil. There is evidence arguments in
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  Scripture to support either proposition.
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  Alma taught that Adam and Eve, our first parent, suffered
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  spiritual death, being cut off from the presence of the Lord,
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  and became carnal, sensual, and devilish by nature because of
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  the fall. Abinadi advanced the argument
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  even that seems farther to include all of us, saying that
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  the old serpent that did beguile our first parents, which was the
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  cause of their fall, which was the cause of all mankind
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  becoming carnal, sensual, devilish, knowing evil from
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  good, subjecting themselves to the devil.
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  Behavioral evidence such as children's cruelty on the
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  playground and the atrocities of men is often offered as
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  revealing true human nature. On the brighter side of the
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  debate we have Paul echoing the psalmist, saying, What is man
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  that thou art mindful of him, or the Son of Man that thou
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  visitest him, Thou madest him a little lower than the angels.
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  Thou has crowned him of glory and honor, and did set him over
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  the works of thy hands. On this side of the argument,
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  different behavioral evidence is offered to show human nature as
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  essentially good, such as an infant's willingness to share
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  food and the endless examples of people's selfless giving and
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  sacrifice for the benefit of others.
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  At least one thing is clear. Our nature is to fall, King
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  Benjamin said. Like Adam, it is the nature of
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  little children to fall. Whether you call it a fallen
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  nature or not, we must all acknowledge our propensity to
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  fall. We are prone to air.
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  Hamlet, as Shakespeare wrote, is conflicted and takes the middle
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  Rd. The middle Rd.
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  While he sees the good, even the divine in man, he is at the same
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  time disgusted. He famously says to his friends
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  what a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in
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  faculties, in form and moving, how express and admirable in
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  action, how like an Angel in apprehension, how like a God.
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  The beauty of the world, he said, the paragon of the
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  animals. And yet to me what is the
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  quintessence of dust. Man delights not me, Hamlet
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  said, nor woman neither, though by smiling you may seem to say
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  so. Hamlet both admires and is
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  disgusted with man. He also says that one may smile
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  and smile and be a villain. In his first inaugural address,
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  newly elected President Abraham Lincoln appealed to the better
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  angels of our nature to avoid Civil War, which which would
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  erupt only a month later at Fort Sumter.
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  He too seemed to recognize the duality of man.
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  I I personally tend to agree with Hamlet and Abraham Lincoln.
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  It is not one or the other. There is a Jekyll and Hyde
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  duality to men. Men are capable of great good
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  and unimaginable evil. Our potential is limitless in
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  both directions. The argument of whether man is
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  innately good or evil is flawed. It assumes a false premise that
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  man is inherently one or the other.
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  The truth is that we have a dual nature and it is up to us which
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  one we feed. It's that simple.
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  We are Co creators, we do the feeding.
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  Go your own way. Feed the monster long enough and
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  it will devour your better nature.
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  Feed the spirit and starve the monster.
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  Rely on the Lord in his atonement and eventually become
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  like God. When God revealed himself to
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  Moses, he said, Behold, thou art my son.
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  But when Satan appeared to offset that glorious truth, he
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  said, Moses, Son of man, worship me.
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  Both God and Satan spoke the truth.
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  Taken together, they describe our dual nature.
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  We are both God's child and a child of man.
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  God speaks to the divine nature. Satan speaks to the carnal.
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  It is a matter of which one we choose to hear, which is
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  emphasized, and which is fed. We determine which will survive
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  or starve, which will win or lose, which will become our
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  nature. We do that no one else can, Alma
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  said. We are our own judges, whether
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  to do good or do evil. Who you are and who you will be
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  is now a work in progress, and it is always in your hands and
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  the Lord's hands if you will give yourself to his care.
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  I hope you will join me for the next episode.
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  Thank you.