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Bonus Episode: A Disgraceful Christmas List – Rockstars Set Up, Busted, and Sentenced During the Holidays · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get from one full episode
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  Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into
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  Speaker 1: the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront
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  Speaker 1: the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're discussing the wild arrests, setups, and true crimes that
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  Speaker 1: happened during holiday season's past for music history. In the
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  Speaker 1: exclusive portion, we dive into the way in which Diddy
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  Speaker 1: allegedly avoided serving hard time for one of those holiday
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  Speaker 1: true crimes. We share with you something pretty awesome that
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  Speaker 1: happened to us here in disgrace Land this past week,
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  Speaker 1: and we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as
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  Speaker 1: always a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast
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  Speaker 1: for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who
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  Speaker 1: know that the best history is a history that gets
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  Speaker 1: buried disgrace Lands, where I tell the stories they didn't
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  Speaker 1: want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, disc goes, Let's get into it. Merry Christmas,
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  Speaker 1: Happy Honeka. I hope everyone's having a great holiday season,
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  Speaker 1: however you celebrate, all right, listen, I'm late and putting
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  Speaker 1: my Christmas list together this year. But it's a different
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  Speaker 1: kind of list. It's not a list of what I
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  Speaker 1: want for Christmas. It's not a list of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: Christmas songs. It's not a list of my favorite unintentional
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  Speaker 1: Christmas songs, though more on that later. It's a list,
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  Speaker 1: a ranked list of true crimes from music history that
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  Speaker 1: happened during the holidays. Now, you'd be surprised how many
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  Speaker 1: of the stories that we cover here in Disgraceslam that
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  Speaker 1: happened around the holiday season. It's way more than I thought.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty shocking, actually. But I have a theory. You've heard
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  Speaker 1: the phrase the devil finds work for idle hands to
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  Speaker 1: do well. I prefer one that is slightly similar but
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  Speaker 1: means the same thing. Idle hands are the devil's workshop.
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  Speaker 1: One could also say that music history is the devil's workshop,
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  Speaker 1: and the workshop gets real busy around the holidays, with
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  Speaker 1: all those rock stars sitting around at home without the
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  Speaker 1: structure of the road board to death by domesticity, just
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  Speaker 1: itching to get themselves into trouble. The holidays are the
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  Speaker 1: perfect time for rockstar true crime, as the record shows.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a list, ranked, of course, of some of
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  Speaker 1: the more outrageous crimes committed in music history. Not all outrageous,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just interesting right around the holiday season. Okay, So many,
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  Speaker 1: of course have been covered, like I said in detail
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  Speaker 1: here in DISGRACELANMD, but most without calling out the relative
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  Speaker 1: holiday spirit until now. Number ten comes from an artist
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  Speaker 1: that we've yet to cover but definitely will at some point.
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  Speaker 1: DMX now December fifteenth, two thousand and two, during a
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  Speaker 1: run of his career where running into authorities for all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, everything spanning weapons charges to animal cruelty,
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  Speaker 1: DMX was arrested a couple weeks before Christmas for burying
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  Speaker 1: his five four to eleven size seven in girls into
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  Speaker 1: the gas pedal and burning one hundred and four miles
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  Speaker 1: and an hour down the highway. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: I've ever gone I've never pushed it that fast. I
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  Speaker 1: pushed it pretty fast sometimes, but I don't think I've
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  Speaker 1: ever been just under one oh five. I hope not. Anyways. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: speeding was the least of DMX's problems that Christmas. He
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  Speaker 1: was also arrested for driving an unregistered vehicle without a
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  Speaker 1: license on top of everything else DMX was up to.
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  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to seventy days in jail event for
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  Speaker 1: that incident. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff
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  Speaker 1: the DMX got in trouble for the DMX story. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it's a very sad story, and I don't yet know
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  Speaker 1: how to tell it, but I know that we will
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  Speaker 1: at some point here in disgrace, and I got to
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  Speaker 1: find a different way of telling it than that doc
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  Speaker 1: that came out a couple of years ago. That's what's
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  Speaker 1: been holding me out anyhow. Number nine, Joan Bias, you
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  Speaker 1: can't accuse Bob Dylan's girlfriend of being idle during the
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  Speaker 1: holidays back in nineteen sixty seven, because on December nineteenth,
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  Speaker 1: Joan Bias, I kid about the Bob Dylan girlfriend thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge I don't like Joe Bias. There,
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  Speaker 1: I said it, but I don't. I don't mean to
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  Speaker 1: just you know, discredit her as being Bob Dylan's girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I understand how important she is in music history, and
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  Speaker 1: I actually think that Joe Bias, for whatever reason, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get enough. I don't want to say credit. I guess credit.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we don't we don't understand fully how
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  Speaker 1: big Joan Biaz was because Bob Dylan is caught up
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  Speaker 1: in her story and she ends up in his shadow,
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  Speaker 1: and he's massive. But she was an enormous star before
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  Speaker 1: Dylan came along, and was after Dylan's split as well.
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  Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, you know, maybe it's like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the Dylan shadow thing. Whatever the reason is, it's we
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  Speaker 1: don't think of it that way anymore. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: We just kind of forget about it, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: just kind of, Oh, that's John Bias anyhow. Joe Bias
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, also John Bias. This guess is absolutely stunning, beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: And even though I don't like Joan Bias's music, her voice,
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  Speaker 1: you can't you can't argue with how, I guess compelling
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  Speaker 1: an artist she was, and she captivated not just the
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  Speaker 1: American public, but she captivated men like John Lennon, for example,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Cash, all kinds of guys who were just blown
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  Speaker 1: away by John Bias. Anyhow, nineteen sixty seven, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: she was not resting during the holiday season, she was
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  Speaker 1: arrested for leading an anti war, anti Vietnam War sit
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  Speaker 1: in in Oakland, California, at an Army induction center. Joan
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  Speaker 1: was putting in work during that holiday off time, unlike
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  Speaker 1: Number eight Chuck Berry, who was fucking around in the
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  Speaker 1: worst possible way, or one of the worst possible ways.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of days before Christmas in nineteen fifty nine,
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  Speaker 1: when Chuck was arrested in Saint Louis, Missouri for transporting
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  Speaker 1: a fourteen year old girl across state lines for immoral purposes,
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  Speaker 1: a crime known as the Man Act. Chuck Berry was
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  Speaker 1: sentenced to five years hard time in federal prison. Chuck
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  Speaker 1: appealed that sentence, and Santa smiled upon the Rock and
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  Speaker 1: Roll pioneer and reduced his sentence to just three years.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck ended up serving just twenty months. You know, I've
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of work on Chuck Berry. We did
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  Speaker 1: that chuck Berry episode, but there's also an expanded version
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  Speaker 1: of that story in my book, and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the Christmas of it all ever really came into the story. Apologies,
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  Speaker 1: if you can hear my the faint, the faint yelp
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  Speaker 1: and shout of my kids. They're out in the front
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  Speaker 1: yard here playing baseball, and you know what, it's Christmas break.
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  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, can't squash their spirit, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Moving on from Chuck Berry at number eight, number seven.
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  Speaker 1: In early December nineteen seventy three, as The Who were
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  Speaker 1: wrapping up their tour in time to return home for
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  Speaker 1: the holidays, they celebrated the performance of a particularly explosive
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  Speaker 1: show in Montreal by destroying in epic fashion. They're suite
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  Speaker 1: at the Hotel Bonaventure. Now, before allays said and done,
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  Speaker 1: this is Look, this has been documented elsewhere, but it's
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  Speaker 1: still shocking to me. And I didn't really get into
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  Speaker 1: it in the Who Who episodes that we've that we've produced,
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  Speaker 1: because it's just it's just such a part of rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll lore. But let's fuck it, let's do it
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  Speaker 1: before all was said and done. Okay, after this after
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  Speaker 1: show party, this after party, after the Who show in Montreal,
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  Speaker 1: they're back at the Hotel ponn Adventure and they decide
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  Speaker 1: they're so excited. They're so pumped, they're so blitz on
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  Speaker 1: whatever they're taking that they're going to destroy the hotel suite,
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  Speaker 1: which you know, back in nineteen seventy three wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: wrote as it is now for rock stars. But anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: after all of a sudden, don sofas had been rocketed
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  Speaker 1: out of the hotel suites windows, a television set ended
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  Speaker 1: up in the pool, Pete Townsend's blood somehow was splattered
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  Speaker 1: across the art on the hotel suite's walls, and Pete,
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  Speaker 1: Keith Moon, and John Entwhistle were all hauled into jail
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  Speaker 1: by the local police and in the end let go
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  Speaker 1: and just ordered to pay damages. And with all that activity,
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  Speaker 1: that who still made it to their gig in Boston
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  Speaker 1: in time the next night before eventually breaking for the holidays.
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  Speaker 1: So a little bit of epic rock star debauchery there
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  Speaker 1: from the holidays. I'd heard that story before, I did
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  Speaker 1: not know it took place during the holiday season number six,
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  Speaker 1: just after celebrating the New Year's holiday in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight, Lil Wayne Lowayne, you might remember back from
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  Speaker 1: season six, season seven of Disgray Sand, was arrested in
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  Speaker 1: Arizona after his tour bus was raided. He was given
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  Speaker 1: probation for that charge, probation to be completed once his
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  Speaker 1: stay in prison was finished. I know it's all very confusing.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear about it all in Our Little Wayne
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  Speaker 1: episode number five. We just talked about this one. Trey,
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  Speaker 1: anastagio of the Fish as the kids call them, was
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  Speaker 1: arrested just before Christmas in two thousand and six while
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  Speaker 1: whipping down the road, blitzed on prescription meds and charged
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  Speaker 1: with heroin possession, an event that no doubt made for
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  Speaker 1: a tense Christmas around the Fish camp that year. Trey
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  Speaker 1: eventually pleaded guilty in avoided prison time, and got clean,
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  Speaker 1: and continues to perform with the Fish and without the heroin.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. That's number five, Number four on
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  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. This is my favorite one on because
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  Speaker 1: it's so fucked up. On New Year's Eve, nineteen forty eight, Holiday,
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  Speaker 1: who I Love Okay, one of my favorite singers and
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  Speaker 1: just I don't care. One of the greatest vocalists of
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  Speaker 1: all time, Billy Holiday was caught up in a club
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  Speaker 1: melee a brawl and charged with assault with the deadly
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  Speaker 1: weapon on three counts. This is on New Year's Eve
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  Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight. Now, on the day of her hearing,
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  Speaker 1: she heads up to San Francisco to perform for a
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  Speaker 1: sold out crowd at a club which the name is
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  Speaker 1: escaping Me. While staying, however, in the San Francisco hotel,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Twain, I can't forget that name. Billy was then,
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  Speaker 1: so this is New Year's Day. Billy was then the
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  Speaker 1: target of a just despicably shameful FBI raid and I
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  Speaker 1: believe set up by her manager, which is a whole
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  Speaker 1: other story. Billy was charged with opium possession and her
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  Speaker 1: career speeds to an end quickly after this, and her
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  Speaker 1: demise is just horrifically sad. But in a weird twist,
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  Speaker 1: that notorious publicity for the arrest and the brawl a
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  Speaker 1: fueled ticket sales for the rest of her tour. So
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  Speaker 1: she got a little you know, New Year's Holiday bonus
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  Speaker 1: for Billie Holiday there, who no doubt likely needed it
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  Speaker 1: given all that was going on at the time in
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  Speaker 1: her life. Number three in December nineteen ninety nine at
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  Speaker 1: the club Kitcat in New York. You know this one.
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  Speaker 1: Beyonce's husband jay Z back before he was Beyonce's husband
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  Speaker 1: was busted for stabbing Lance on Rivera. Remarkably, somehow, jay
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  Speaker 1: Z only got probation for stabbing a dude. Santa doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fucking a round with no dirt on jay Z's shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying now. Number two not to be
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  Speaker 1: outdone by his rival jay Z. A couple weeks later,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Puff Daddy Combs was busted two days after Christmas
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  Speaker 1: following a shooting in a different New York City club.
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  Speaker 1: Puffy as he was known then, was charged with criminal
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  Speaker 1: possession of a weapon and stolen property, but eventually eat
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  Speaker 1: the charge. Now a lot of theories about how Sean
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Combs avoided a guilty charge here and he avoided going
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  Speaker 1: to prison. Lots of lots of smoke out there. Some
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  Speaker 1: of it is more than smoke, I think. Anyways, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into these theories in the exclusive section of
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  Speaker 1: the after Party for All Access members coming up in
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  Speaker 1: a bit. But first number one on our list, Number
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  Speaker 1: one country singer Merle Haggard, whose voice rivals Billy Holidays
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  Speaker 1: in my estimation, I actually think, and this is because
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  Speaker 1: I've been listening to a ton of Merle Haggard lately,
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  Speaker 1: I think Merle Haggard has surpassed George Jones in my
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  Speaker 1: opinion as far as country singers go, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: subjectively my fave. I'm not saying that Merle Haggard is
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  Speaker 1: the greatest country singing you know. Whatever. You might have
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  Speaker 1: your if you might think it's George, you might think
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  Speaker 1: it's Willie, Johnny whoever. But for me it was George
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  Speaker 1: Jones for most of my life. But there's just something
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  Speaker 1: about Merle that has has got me hooked lately. The richness,
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  Speaker 1: the depth of that voice. I envy it, I really do,
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  Speaker 1: and I just can't get enough of it. Anyways, Merle
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  Speaker 1: was busted on Christmas Day for knocking over a restaurant
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  Speaker 1: the night before in an armed robbery, and this was
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  Speaker 1: an event that led Merle to do hard time at
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  Speaker 1: San Quentin and eventually to getting serious about his musical
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  Speaker 1: career after he saw Johnny Cash perform live at San Quentin,
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately this all led to Merle Haggard writing one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest Christmas songs of all time, if we
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  Speaker 1: make it through December, a song I'm proud to say
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  Speaker 1: that my seven year old now loves. We've been listening
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  Speaker 1: to It's actually there's a Merl Christmas album. We've been
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  Speaker 1: listening to the whole album a lot lately, and that
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  Speaker 1: might have something to do with why Merle Haggard is
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  Speaker 1: number one on my list here. And the numbering doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: The ranking doesn't matter. These are all fascinating stories that
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  Speaker 1: you can tell this Christmas while you're hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: your fans. You know, it gets to the later part
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  Speaker 1: of the day. Football is, you know, not as interesting
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  Speaker 1: as it was earlier. You know, you're all kind of
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  Speaker 1: you get to get a little turkey hangover, maybe you
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  Speaker 1: get a little a little too much bourbon in you,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you need something alive and up
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  Speaker 1: the party. You can go to any one of these
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  Speaker 1: stories and there will be relevance, of course because of
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  Speaker 1: the holidays, and you know, you'll, you know, you might
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  Speaker 1: be a little entertaining yourself telling these stories of you know,
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  Speaker 1: massively transgressive entertainers. This list could easily have been a
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  Speaker 1: top twenty, maybe even a top fifty. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mention holiday season arrests for a ton of
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  Speaker 1: disgraceland artists, Jas Brown, Jim Morrison, Sam Cook, gig Allen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure with more research into the Disgraceland archive, I
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  Speaker 1: could have pulled out a ton more the holidays in
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  Speaker 1: music history the Devil's workshop as demonstrated by Disgraceland. When
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  Speaker 1: we get back, I'm going to play something that's sure
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  Speaker 1: to blow your mind. And then we're also going to
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  Speaker 1: get into your calls, voicemails, an texts. All right, we
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  Speaker 1: are back, and before we get into your voicemails, text
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  Speaker 1: and more, I wanted to mention that one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite disgrace Land stories is available for you guys right
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  Speaker 1: now in the feed, and that is the Christmas story
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: on the death of one of Elvis Presley's favorite singers,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Memphis own Johnny Ace. And if you're looking for something
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  Speaker 1: to do, this is you know, you know, get round
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  Speaker 1: the tree here on Christmas, fire up the old disgrace
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Land feed and get into the Christmas fives. This is
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  Speaker 1: a dark but fascinating story and it's absolutely a holiday story.
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Ace in the myth of Johnny Ace and his
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  Speaker 1: death on Christmas Day was most definitely an influence on
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  Speaker 1: an artist that I think most of us know and love.
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  Speaker 1: Lou Reid from the Velvet Underground now Lou just like
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  Speaker 1: those who spread the false myth of Johnny Ace's death
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  Speaker 1: after the Johnny Ace Christmas tragedy, lou Reid himself was
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  Speaker 1: about as unreliable a narrator as is possible to find
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  Speaker 1: in rock and roll history. So because of that, we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was a good time of year to bring
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Lou back into the feed with our unreliable take on
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the Lou Reed origin story. These two lou Read episodes
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  Speaker 1: are I'm just gonna say it, they're fucking weird. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I was reading a bunch of Raymond Chandler books at
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  Speaker 1: the time, because Lou Reid was heavily influenced by Raymond Chandler,
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  Speaker 1: and I had just had my head buried in that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: massive book of Lou Reed lyrics, and I was obviously
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: reading and watching a ton of Lou Reed interviews where
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  Speaker 1: Lou is basically just lying through all of them about himself.
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  Speaker 1: So what you hear in these two episodes is a
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  Speaker 1: result of me taking all of that in and kind
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  Speaker 1: of channeling Lou as an unreliable narrator into this storytelling.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's weird, but it's fun. And they're
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  Speaker 1: produced in an excellent way. If I just I'm very
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  Speaker 1: proud of the job that the Double Elvis team did
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  Speaker 1: with these stories. So those are going to be available
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  Speaker 1: in the archive coming up right right after this, right yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Next week, we of course keep the holiday vibes alive
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  Speaker 1: with our episode on Derek and the Dominoes, those Dominoes
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  Speaker 1: being Dwayne Allmon and Eric Clapton and one Jim Gordon,
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  Speaker 1: and we tell this story of violent schizophrenia in conjunction
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  Speaker 1: with the story of the Lost and Family Murders, which
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  Speaker 1: happened on Christmas Day back in nineteen twenty nine and
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  Speaker 1: was immortalized in song in the Great Murder Ballad The
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  Speaker 1: Loss and Family Murder by the Carolina Buddies and later
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  Speaker 1: popularized by Doc Watson. If you're from the American South,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a true crime fan, if you're from North
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  Speaker 1: or South Carolina, if you love Clapton, the Almonds, or
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: are a drummer and want to hear about one of
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the greatest drummers of all time and his slip into madness,
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  Speaker 1: then you are going to want to listen to this episode.
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  Speaker 1: If you are any of those things, and even if
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you're not all right, let's hear from you guys, because
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you know it's been about a week and you know
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  Speaker 1: we haven't checked in. Charlie checked in from the nine
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  Speaker 1: to one to two.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, Jake, this is Charlie calling it from Georgia. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think it goes out saying that you and your
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: team and everyone that listens to the show knows what
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: an awesome podcast that Disgraceland is. But I wanted to
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: take this opportunity to take you two reasons why specifically
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  Speaker 3: love the show personally.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Number one, it's not about race, or politics or religion
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: of all the other horspreneur that we use to tear
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: each other apart day after day. No, it's a show
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: that has a great host, all right, that tells great
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: stories about great.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Artists that make the great music that we all know
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and love. And at the end of the day, that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: what unifies us. Okay. Number two is.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I know I'm not alone when I say this, but
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I think the best part about the show are the introductions, Okay,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: and listening to you go and why what I play
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: you that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Specific slice of such and such cheese? Could I afford?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It?
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Just cracks me up every single time.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I love it, and I wish you guys the best
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: of the luck and I who success you could possibly handle.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: And again, thank you so much for a great show.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: All right, man, Peace, Charlie.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the message. Thank you man, thanks for spreading
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a little holiday, little Christmas cheer. I hope you and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: your family are doing all right. Peace and love and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: much more cheese coming my man. That's all I get
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to say, specific slices of cheese. All right, Matt, let's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: go to the seven three one.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: That was the end of the seventry one. Just following
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: up on the video podcast of you and Zets talking
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: about the Christmas songs. The band was politically incorrect disdaining
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: your voice for Baby It's Code Outside, But right after
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that you kind of understood the whole earth of kid
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: sultry performance. The thing with Baby It's Code Outside is
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: the same thing in the performances sometimes, like on television,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: different things. The man would block the door kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: keep it from going out, and I think that's what
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: led to some of the backlash, more so than just
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: the lyrics of the song. I'm not saying one hundred
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: percent agree with it. But I also could see the
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: point in the me through movement this song coming out
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: of Christmas kind of a bad timing situation, not that
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: it was a new song, but playing them again, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of it was the performance. The man blocking
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the door not allowing her to leave. It did give
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: a little cringe factor not gonna lie and those very
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: depending on who performed it. So I think that might
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: play into it just as well as earth a Kid
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: be Infective's girl can hit it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, just following up on that definitely, so like, uh,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: there's a little a little of that in there and
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  Speaker 4: not be why pease enjoy your holidays?
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  Speaker 1: Ah seven three one great great call. I didn't realize this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I did not understand that. Uh, And I totally see it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You know, there were TV performances of this song baby
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It's Cold outside back in the day, and I can
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I can, as you're describing it, I can see them
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: hamming it up and kind of acting it out and dramatizing,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and with that visual, I can see the thing being
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a little more I can see the problem with it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit more clearly. However, anyway you cut it,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: baby it's cold outside, politically correct, politically incorrect, however you
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: view it. It's a fantastic song. Appreciate this little bit
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of information here though, seven three one, Thank you all
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  Speaker 1: right over on the text machine four one six, I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: love this text four to one six right saying, Hey,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: how about Christmas albums that don't exist but should, like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the Smiths, Maybe songs such as Christmas Is Over or
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: The Last Star I shall see. How about Santa will
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: not Arrive? Happy Christmas? It may be my last away
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: in a manger and it is cold there. This guy's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: got a whole track listing for a fake Smith's Christmas album.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: This is fantastic. It goes on the present I cannot
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: give the present I cannot give. That's a RC song
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: man Christmas, Christmas for Caligula, this Charming Elf, and last
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but not least, Shoplifters of the world unite on Boxing Day,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Happy Honukah, and rock a rolla four one
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: six You text in any time you want. That was amazing.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you. We had this whole thing going last week. Guys.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: We made a mix and an unintentional Christmas mix that's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: available for you to hear on Spotify if you're following
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a Disgrace sampot or if you're in on the chat.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: If you're in with us, this goes in Patreon. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: posted the link up there. You can find the link
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to the mix the playlist very very easily. Get another
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: one here. Another suggestion for untraditional Christmas songs. This one,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the five Awight says an interesting Christmas song or a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: version of a Christmas song. I believe it was the
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: band Weezer, Oh Holy Night, and it was in a
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: sitcom show called Raising Hope. That's when I first heard it,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, love that five Await
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Thank You two four eight writes in on the same
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: topic the Last Days of December. It's an obscure, neo
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: synthpop song from an obscure band on an even more
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: obscure Christmas compilation. It's one of the prettiest songs I've
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: ever heard, and one of the best things about December
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: is that I get to go play it again and again.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Here's too many more Decembers. Two four eight. Love That
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Ish wants an episode on Paris Hilton, Sorry on Lionel
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Richie and we work our way in through the gateway
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of Nicole Richie in Paris, Hilton Ish. I like this idea.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot that I think. Lana Richie
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: has an autobiography as of as of recently recent as
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of recently as of lately recently published. Yeah, yah yay,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I need more coffee that I'm just interested in reading
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: as a as a fan and learning more. I bet
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: he's got a great perspective. The guy's been around forever.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So ish you know, you might get your wish ish okay,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Christmas wish for ish. Unintentional holiday songs, now, this is
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: different from non traditional Christmas or holiday songs. Unintentional I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: forget who was on Patreon brought up in the Ghetto
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: as being an unintentional Christmas song by Elvis Presley and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I can hear it. So we had a little convo
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: going on Patreon about that, and some folks chimed in.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell's River has Christmas imagery, but I don't think
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it classifies as a Christmas song. But I think it
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: should or no, she says, I think it could go
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: either way. That's christy kay. I don't know that song, KRISTI,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna check out. Michael Murphy writes in Apollo
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: one hundred Joy, a disco fied version of Jayhu Joy
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  Speaker 1: of man's desiring? Is that drive like Jay Hum? Michael
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  Speaker 1: has a bunch here human sexual response from Boston, Land
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of the Glass Pine Cones. Wow, never heard that Ben
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Folds five Brick as a Christmas song. Michael could have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: started and stopped his list with this next recommendation here
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: for an unintentional Christmas song, and it just perfectly embodies
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: this concept. It is a long December by counting crows.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, love this tune. Haven't talked about
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it at all this holiday season could have It's just smashing,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: absolutely fabulous. Great TV show by the way, absolutely fabulous. Okay,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: maybe next year we'll do more on this topic. I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: really like it because it's hard. You know, my brain
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: just doesn't go to like ten exam this. You got
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to think about it for a minute. Unintentional Christmas song
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: songs that weren't intended to be Christmas, but somehow I've
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: ended up representing the holiday season for us. Anyways, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: love this idea, and perhaps we'll do more of it
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: next year. Over on Instagram, let's see here Sam Dullivan
• 26:19
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• 26:27
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• 26:34
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• 26:52
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• 26:57
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• 27:01
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• 27:04
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• 27:08
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• 27:12
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• 27:15
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• 27:18
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• 27:20
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• 27:22
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• 27:25
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• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break, and when I come back,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I got to lay this this thing on you, guys,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: this thing that happened this past week that was pretty awesome.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: You might have heard of it, you might not have.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Either way, we're going to get into it back in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the flash, all right, guys. So the other night, I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: up in my eleven year old's bedroom. It's just after dinner,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm using his stereo, his double cassette recorder to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: try and dub these cassettes of this holiday mix that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I had made for a bunch of my friends. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it's a Christmas mix, all stuff from mine and my
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: wife's Christmas vinyl collection. And anyhow I'm putting the mix together.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I'm fighting with this crappy little stereo because my my
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: double cassette recorder had broken previously wasn't working, So now
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm using his, and he has a really shitty stereo.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It's not his fault. I bought it for him, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the thing to work. I'm super frustrated,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to do this thing. It's supposed to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be easy it's suposed to be fun like it was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid. It's not fun. It's paying
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the ass. It's a pain in the ass to make mixtapes,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: it really is. I'm so spoiled. We're also spoiled by
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the by the ease with which we can put together
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: digital playlists. I'm in here, you know. Here's the thing
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: about making a making a cassette tape, you know, dubbing cassettes.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: How the hell did we write the track listings on
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: those tapes? How did we fit the song and the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: artist in one in fifty percent of the size of
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the cassette tape? Insert It's impossible, absolutely impossible. So I'm
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: super frustrated trying to do this. My wife yells up,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: She's like, hey, my aunt Anne just just texted me
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and she told me that Disgraceland was just on Jeopardy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm going, that's not true. She's she's She's wrong.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: At least it wasn't, you know, the podcast Disgraceland. Maybe
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they just said the word or something. That's what I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was thinking. And I go back to being frustrated, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: about five minutes later, I get a text from Abvi'spivick,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: who Aviy does all the great illustrations for disgrace Land
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and has since we launched the show. And Abby lives
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: in somewhere in New York City. And I get this
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: text from Avi. He's like, pretty cool man, Disgraceland on Jeopardy.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like what Now, I'm like, you're you're kidding? What?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Because now I'm thinking, I'm thinking two things. I'm thinking
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it's real and wow, this is really freaking cool. Like
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I loved, I love Jeopardy. I don't watch it every night,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: but I've watched it a lot throughout my life and it's,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously a huge part of the fabric of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: our culture. So of course I'm like, this is amazing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: But then I'm also just thinking, like, wait a minute,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: don't don't Shouldn't they have given me a heads up
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: if this was real, I'd know it was gonna happen,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And of course I had no heads up, So that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I text Matt and Zeth, who you guys know obviously,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I know I just something without even asking. I'm
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: assuming that Matt Bowden is like the biggest Jeopardy fan
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on the planet, and uh, I'm thinking if anybody watches
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: this every night, it's him, and yeah, he's super fan.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But these guys aren't watching TV. They're doing whatever. Neither
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of them know what's up, and I think they're both
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: kind of like. As I'm texting them, my thought thinking
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: is like, dude, you're out of your freaking mind. Then
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: my sister, my little sister, who's like hours from going
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: into labor, texts me and she's like, we're watching it,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and they saw it. They actually like had the clip
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and they sent it. And turns out it aired up
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in the Northeast an hour before it aired where I'm at,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so I was able to actually watch it, tape it
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and with my two sons, who didn't know what the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: hell was going on but thought it was pretty cool,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: as did my wife. And I don't know why, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I think this is such a
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: special thing. I've been the show has been mentioned on
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you know, other stuff that's as big, arguably, I guess
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: or I don't know, part of the culture, but this
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: is something about Jeopardy. It's been around forever since I
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: was a little kid, and it's just, like I said,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: such a fabric of our culture. It really made me
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: happy that our show Disgraceland was mentioned. And we're going
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to play the clip for you guys right now so
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you can you can hear this. It was quick, of course, Matt,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: go ahead and play this for the Peeps podcast before
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: ahead here as it focuses on music and misdeeds. Disgraceland
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: discussed the May through July twenty twenty five trial.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Of this rap modal.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Chris who is did yes? John Colmes, all right, guys,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that's Disgraceland as part of the question in Jeopardy and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the answer was, of course Sean Combs, who we will
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be talking about in the exclusive section of this after party.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Going to be doing that with Zeth as I as
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I typically do, typically do the exclusive sections of the
• 32:46
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• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I mentioned Zeth and the show that he helms hollywood Land.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: We did these special features for the holiday season. We
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: did two of them on Christmas films. I did one,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Matt did one, and we got one coming up on
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: New Year's Films, which I think are going to be into.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: These are fun discussions. I get to indulge my fandom
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of film history, and Zeth, of course, is the real
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: expert here. Matt give the people a little taste of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just pick one of the special
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• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Okay. So a couple of movies here that I think
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: are connected by the fact that they both have very
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: pivotal scenes that play out during New Year's Eve parties
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: are Boogie Nights and Godfather Part two. Boogie Knights has
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: this New Year's E party that takes us from the
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: decade of the seventies into the eighties, from film to video.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: It's the beginning of the end. There's a good Fellow's
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: camp for this. You know, the moment where there's no
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: turning back with the story. You've been seduced by the lifestyle,
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, you know, William H.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Macy puts a gun to his head and blows his
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: brains out, and the now you're paying for that lifestyle, right.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: And then The Godfather too, of course, has this iconic
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: New Year's Eve party scene in Cuba, which is the
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: moment where Michael tells Fredo he knows that he was
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: the one that betrayed him. What do you want to
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: talk about first, boog Knights.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about both of them. I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: want to make this point that one of them seems
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like a New Year's movie and the other one does not.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And I feel like it goes to what I was
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: saying earlier where Boogie Nights it does. I don't know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: it just feels like they make they reinforced the New
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Year's piece of it more than in Godfather. Godfather, It's
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: just part of this massive you use the word set
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: piece earlier, and certainly the party for Batista, that's all
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you know. It's yeah, it's New Year's and feels it's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: just everything kind of seems the drama is paying off
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: so fully in that scene, everything between Michael and Fredo
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and Michael's plan is coming to fruition or starting to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the mechanics anyways of it, and the drama almost seems
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: like it's too big for the New Year's scenery piece
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of it. So maybe that's why I never really think
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: of that movie as a New Year's movie. Great movie obviously,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Whereas with Boogie Knights, they're set in this New Year's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Eve party and the drama that unfolds there is more
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: of a surprise, perhaps more of a shocking turn that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you're not expecting. You can kind of and Godfather too,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: you can kind of see what Michael's working up to.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: He kind of knows this is gonna happen. He doesn't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: set Fredo up, but he's kind of fishing to get
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the information from Fredo because he already suspects him. Somewhat
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: does the audience kind of being brought along even if
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you don't realize it. The Little Bill thing in Boogie Nights,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the first time I watched it was a total shock.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, It was up until that point like you were laughing,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: and you've been laughing at Little Bill every time he
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: turns around. His wife's like going to town with some guy,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: and there's a whole group of people watching and it's
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and he's sort of like the butt of the joke.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Joan Biez was arrested on December nineteenth, nineteen sixty seven,
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  Speaker 1: and yere's what America was listening to on that day,
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  Speaker 1: according to the Billboard Charts. Number one Daydream Believer The
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  Speaker 1: Monkeys last week one weeks on chart six peak position one,
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  Speaker 1: and the Pips last week two weeks on chart ten,
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  Speaker 1: week in the Miracles weeks on chart four weeks on
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  Speaker 1: position number four. And my second last emotion last week
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  Speaker 1: Smokey Robinson in the Miracles last week four last weeks
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  Speaker 1: on chart eight numbers peak position number five. Woman Woman
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  Speaker 1: Gary Pucket. Quit talking and start mixing