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ZeXzy on 'Every Sound,' Musical Growth, and Overcoming Challenges · The Scene Projects

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  Welcome in to another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I am your host Bubba Starts, and with me today is eclectic musician, Zexy.
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  Zexy, welcome to the show, brother.
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  Thank you so much.
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  I'm so happy to be here today.
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  I'm thrilled to have
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  you.
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  Yes.
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  Well, welcome in to another exciting episode of The Scene.
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  I'm your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is eclectic musician, Zexy Zexy.
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  Welcome to the show, brother.
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  Thank you so much, Rob.
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  I'm I'm so excited to be with you today to share my, you know, musical story with
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  everyone, and, yeah, it feels good to be here.
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  That's fantastic.
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  Well, I I think we have a lot to get into.
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  You've divulged a little bit to me before we jumped on camera, but I love just kinda jumping
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  into these conversations and getting to know you on the fly.
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  So give you a chance to go ahead, introduce yourself, give us a little bit of your
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  backstory, and then we'll we'll pick it up with some music talk.
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  Okay.
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  So, yes, Zig Zee is is born Waifu Williams Aytroy.
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  I hear from Benin City, Ado State, Nigeria.
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  I'm an eclectic musician.
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  Eclectic in the sense that I I don't believe in boundaries.
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  I don't believe in, you know, being pigeonholed as a musician.
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  I think that, you know, different inspirations can hit you as a creative.
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  And I I just want to be able to express myself in whatever genre that I feel.
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  There are times when I when I feel like I'm in this very mellow mood.
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  I may wanna go with country music.
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  I mean, I I grew up on I was very little when Kenny Rogers would come on radio.
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  Don Williams would play on radio.
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  Some old country sexy.
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  Old country.
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  You know, I remember coming back from school then and, you know, you'll hear songs like,
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  listen to the radio.
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  Oh, listen to the radio.
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  Let's have a night together.
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  You know, like, I just there's just a feeling it puts me.
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  And then, you know, you have two Pac playing on the radio, you know, heat them up and, you
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  know, you so every song has its own mode.
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  And for me, when I because we're human beings and we have, like, a range of emotions,
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  sometimes you're angry, sometimes you're cold, sometimes you feel love, sometimes you feel
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  hate.
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  And then different genres of music has a way of bringing out those different sides of you just
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  depending on how the music itself, you know, sounds.
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  So I get inspired by different musicians, different artists, and they they all factor
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  into my being an eclectic musician today.
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  So when I when I get a rap song, it may come in an aggressive form, and I wanna put it that
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  way.
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  When I get, you know, a country song, it may it may come in a very mellow way, and I wanna put
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  it exactly how it came to me.
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  I don't wanna adulterate it.
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  So that's what makes me an eclectic musician because I don't think I should try to, you
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  know, change how the music sounds just because maybe people would say, oh, no.
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  That's that's no.
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  This demographic that is supposed to do this type of music.
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  And then you have to even if you have to do it, you have to turn it into something else.
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  I just believe in doing it as it came to me and just dropping it like it's hot.
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  So that's that's what makes me an eclectic musician.
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  No.
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  I feel you.
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  So a long time ago, I'm a songwriter myself, and I used to call our music rockabilly
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  regafunk.
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  And that was a bit too much of a mouthful, so now I just describe it as modern gypsy rock.
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  Okay.
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  I right.
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  So you know, in a lot of my influences, obviously, from Americana music.
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  Right?
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  American music, the the old rock of the early sixties, the grateful dad, but also country
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  from the Hank Williams, you know, the first.
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  Right?
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  Hank Singer all the way through your nineties country and, you know, not a lot of influence
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  from today's kind of pop country stuff, but you you can hear it.
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  You can hear the Marshall Tucker, but you can also hear that I grew up listening to bands
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  like Sublime and, you know, the Pepper and these reggae ska bands as I was coming up in
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  the late nineties, early two thousands.
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  That was a big part of, you know, kind of the culture and my time out on the West Coast.
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  I'm back home now in rural South Dakota, so obviously country is king around me.
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  But I have friends that are in hip hop.
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  I have friends that are in EDM music.
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  I have friends like and and I love all of their music.
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  So Yeah.
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  I I understand it, and I love it.
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  As soon as you said eclectic musician, we're just like, we're gonna vibe, man.
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  Let's just get to talking.
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  So talk a little bit about growing up.
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  Obviously, you know, inner city Nigeria, you know, this a lot different vibe than what I
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  grew up in in rural South Dakota.
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  So so talk a little bit about, you know, just coming up and the musical influences that
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  you're hearing, the African the right Afrobeats and different things that you're hearing there
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  from the local culture and not necessarily what you heard on the radio as well.
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  Obviously, that has an influence on you too.
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  Right?
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  Yes.
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  You know, growing up, my my elder brothers already liked music because, you know, you when
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  you're a little boy, you don't know much about what's going on, but you have elder ones who
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  probably were buying, you know, CDs, and then they will come home, play them.
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  Reggae was very big in Nigeria, but Mali was a huge thing.
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  Although he had died before I was born, but he was he was always part of the culture.
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  Like, you just grow up into knowing Bob Mali.
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  Just like you grow up into knowing, Fela and Nicolas Mokuti because Fela was a freedom
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  fighter.
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  He was he he did Afrobeats.
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  He's the progenitor of Afrobeats.
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  And, you know, so every other Nigerian musician kind of, like, tapped into his own, you know,
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  style of music.
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  Like, if you listen to the album, just dropped now every sound.
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  You know?
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  Of course, that that already tells you what the album is about.
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  You know, the beginning of the album, you hear, oh, Africa.
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  You hear songs like government fees, comedy government.
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  You know, those are songs that are kind of styled in fellas.
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  It's really government fees and and comedy government.
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  They are styled in fellas kind of arrangement of music, you know you know, saxophones
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  blaring, and then before the vocals come in and then saxophone comes in again, ends the song.
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  So I grew up on a lot a lot of Afrobeats and reggae.
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  But then, you know, gradually, you know, hip hop started, you know, having a foothold on on
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  African music.
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  We started to like, you know, hip hop too.
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  So all of those sounds of course, there was also country on radio.
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  There was pop on radio.
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  We had you know, Nigeria is a country that, you know, embraces all genres of music from
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  different parts of Africa.
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  I'm a piano.
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  So and because I'm a very emotional person, once I internalize something or I like it and
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  it goes right into my subconscious, it comes back at me as music.
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  That's that's just how it works.
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  It comes back as my own interpretation of that kind of music.
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  So growing up in Africa, in Penins City, I I listened to all of those different types of
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  music.
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  And when I started doing my own writing, I started writing each of those different genres
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  of music my own way.
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  And, you know, it it just hits me.
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  Like, Air Hostess.
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  Air Hostess is is is a track on my recent album.
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  It's a folk song, but it just it just it when I finished writing that song, I was trying to ask
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  myself, where is this influence coming from?
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  But I realized that it's that internalized, you know, Don Williams and all of those guys that I
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  listened to when I was when I was still a kid.
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  And then it just it just came out as that because as of that time, I was looking for a
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  country song for the album.
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  Because remember, this album is the most eclectic album in the world.
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  Like, it has it has more than 15 genres, Afro beats, jazz, rock, EDM, salsa, merengue,
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  reggaeton.
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  And in fact, I I sang in Spanish on the on this number 17 track, Aurea.
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  I I sang and rapped in Spanish.
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  There is a classical song that will make you feel like you're listening to Beethoven or
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  Mozart or, you know, something from the medieval ages.
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  And you have you have, Beach Wave, which is, you know, a jazz song, And it will make you
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  feel like you're listening to a Kenny g.
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  So all of these songs had their own, like because all of these guys are people that I
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  looked up to.
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  So when I was putting together every sound and myself and my team, we always talked about, you
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  know, how do we how do we really, like, go across all of these different genres and and
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  nail them.
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  You know, it it I I feel so happy when people tell me, like, a friend of ours sent me a
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  message, and he's he's white.
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  Like, you know, he he said, he said, should just stick to stick to singing in Spanish
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  because the way he knew it, you almost think he's Latino.
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  So but that's what gives me joy that I'm not just doing something to check a box.
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  I'm doing it because I I I try to understand it.
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  I try to give it my best interpretation that I can.
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  So that's that's just what the whole expressive side of music is for me.
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  Just doing it the way you think it should be done and just enjoying yourself while you do it
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  and not tying yourself to to convention or what people think that you should be doing.
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  So Every Sound is an album that you should you everyone should listen to that album.
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  It's it's a it's a world of its own.
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  It's just it's a global tour of music where you go from Africa to The Caribbeans and then from
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  The Caribbeans into America and then America back to Europe.
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  And then, you know, it's just a world tour of sounds.
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  All the every song is different.
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  I use different tones.
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  I use different sounds.
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  And it's it's it's such a joy that, you know, the album is out there right now.
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  And we are getting so many reviews from people.
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  And, you know, it's just it just it just feels good.
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  Right.
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  Well and in a industry now that is so I I and I hate the way that it does it, and it's probably
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  why I'm not more successful in my career as well, but they want you to stay in your lane.
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  Go make this thing and find the fans of that one thing, and then just go repeat that thing
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  over and over again.
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  And it's like, that's not me either, Zaczy.
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  I can't stand that.
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  It's boring.
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  Yeah.
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  It's boring.
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  Well, in in our own interpretations are how we honor the ones who came before us.
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  So if you have an eclectic taste in music that you like that moves you, then why wouldn't you
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  want to write in that style?
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  And I think a lot of songwriters and a lot of young artists end up end up kinda keeping
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  themselves from from expressing their true nature because they're doing something that
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  someone in the industry or people who have really no idea what it's like to be an artist
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  and to have that expression are telling them to do.
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  So I just love that you fully embody all of that and just unabashedly go after it and to
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  say, no.
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  I'm I'm willing to give you the world tour of sound, and I really don't care.
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  And in this time frame where nobody is really listening to albums anyway, and it's all about
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  singles, and people are only really consuming maybe that one song of yours anyway, then what
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  does it matter?
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  Go make something in every genre, and you may be even more successful than you would have had
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  you stayed in your lane.
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  Exactly.
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  For me, it's about my artistic integrity.
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  I'm not satisfied doing one thing over and over again.
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  And and that's that's where music genres begin to fall off because all the artists in that in
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  that same genre of music, they keep repeating the same topics.
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  Country musicians only wanna sing about love, love, love, love, love.
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  Hip hop wants to sing about girls, girls, girls, girls.
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  And, you know, Afrobeats wants to sing about dance, dance, dance.
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  And then, you know, you have to, you know, use almost similar lyrics all the time, and your
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  your your beats your beat pack is almost the same thing because you're producing almost like
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  the same thing over and over again.
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  So for me, in order for me not to not to lose it and and get uninterested in the creative
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  process, I have to I have to find an outlet for for these other sounds that are coming to I
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  know guys that are great in rap, but they only wanna do Afrobeats.
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  Like, these guys would would kill any rap song.
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  But because Afrobeats, you know, from the African side of things, it's much more
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  commercial.
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  They don't wanna rap.
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  You know?
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  But but for how I see it is, why not just create why not create this departmental store?
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  Why why be a mom and pop if you can be a departmental store?
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  Like, even if people are coming to buy, let's say, kitchen utensils more, But what is wrong
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  if I also have an aisle for farm implements or for farm equipment?
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  Sorry.
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  And and what if I have another aisle for for, let's say, furniture?
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  What if I have another aisle for for any other thing?
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  So that's how I see creativity.
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  Even if people wanna patronize more of my Afrobeat side because I'm African, even they
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  wanna patronize, you know, the the the Latin music side because maybe they like Aurea.
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  Like, just create different things for different people to like.
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  And they may come in because of the Latin song, and they'll love the Afrobeat song more.
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  Because you go to the store sometimes, you wanna buy one thing, and then you see something
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  else that you didn't think you need, and then you wanna buy it off the shelf.
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  So I I still love the album, and I I really wanted this album to drop because a lot of
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  people started saying that I was confused.
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  Today, you you do Afrobeats, and the next thing, you're rapping, and the next thing,
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  you're doing reggaeton.
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  Why not just stick to one thing?
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  So I wanted to define myself with this album and say, look.
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  This is Zig Z.
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  He's he's going to be the most eclectic musician that ever lived when it's all said and
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  done.
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  When you listen to the song Beast Beast, that was where I really, like, talked about, you
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  know, me not wanting to stick to only Afrobeats and, you know, how folks, you know, think that,
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  you know, I should just be in my lane and, you know, put me in this pigeonhole, but I refuse
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  to be in there because I don't want to be defined by anybody.
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  And I think every musician should break out of that mode because if we all if we all renege on
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  this, you know, these so called gatekeepers that want us to do what they want us to do,
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  they'll get tired because they they they have to remain in business with the aid of the
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  musicians.
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  We are the products.
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  So if we keep if we keep acquiescing to them and just wanting to do they said I should stay
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  in my country lane.
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  I must stay there.
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  Or my rap lane, I have to stay there.
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  Imagine if all of us were expressing ourselves the way we we want it to.
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  I mean, let let let everything fall with me, but let's just express ourselves using our
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  music, and then let those who like it like it.
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  There are those who think I I actually thought some of my friends will prefer the Afrobeat
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  songs more, but then they go prefer the rap song.
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  And then funny enough, I sent, you know, the the the album to my my friends here in America,
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  and I think, oh, they are gonna prefer the rap song because they're Americans.
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  And then they go like the Afrobeat songs.
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  So what that means is that this, you know, idea that a group of people only like one thing or
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  everyone is monolithic and, you know, they can't like more than what they like is very
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  wrong.
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  And I think we're shooting ourselves on the foot by not exploring and trying to branch out
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  and reach out.
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  And and being a creative, you realize that for every genre of music that you you try to
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  explore, it brings out another side of you, and you are gonna love it as a creative because it
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  just just opens your mind.
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  I mean, I could do this.
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  Wow.
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  You know?
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  So why box yourself when you can express yourself in so many ways?
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  I couldn't agree more, Zach C.
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  I I really I just love everything that you're saying.
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  And it feels like the album is kind of an invitation for listeners to broaden their
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  horizons as well.
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  Now the one thing that can be a little bit difficult with an album like this that has so
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  many different directions that it's going is having a coherent sound.
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  But I don't feel like you're someone who struggles with that because where most people
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  are trying to go in a different lane, you feel very authentic in all the things that you're
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  doing.
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  And I'm saying this having not listened to the album yet, of course, but, I can't wait to give
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  it a listen because I feel like, that you would be able to tie it all together.
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  Do you feel like the album came off and it still sounds like the same person even though
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  it goes in many different directions?
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  That's the funny thing.
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  I had to ask my friends, like, can you still recognize my voice?
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  You know, given that I'm switching tones and I'm switching styles and even personality on
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  different songs.
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  And it was like, yes.
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  Of course, know your voice.
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  Because sometimes I start to doubt if people can can recognize me from song to song.
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  You know, I'm rapping in song.
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  I'm singing in song.
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  And and then they told me they could.
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  So but I I think it's just the the what I've discovered about my own style of making music
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  is that music just hits me.
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  And if it hits me, maybe because of the things I've been saying on news and the the things
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  that I've been hearing from friends.
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  So all of those things just stay in my subconscious, and it may come out in a style of
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  music that maybe may be in in Michael Jackson style of, you know, delivery.
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  Okay.
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  Take for example, so much is the twenty seventh track on the album.
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  I was thinking there's
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  so much going on.
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  Russia is at war.
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  Ukraine asked for more.
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  NATO closes door, and there's so much going on.
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  AI takes the floor.
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  Man is left to know.
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  Robe is not the lord, and there's so much going on.
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  You
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  know?
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  And and then on a song like this, you hear me say, yo.
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  I'm such a music chit.
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  I don't only fuck with Afrobeats.
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  For those who beefing, this is season disease.
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  Well, I'm not a man.
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  I'm a beast.
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  You know?
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  So But it's still the same person, and I think your friends are right that you're still you.
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  You know?
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  There's just so many sides to you.
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  You're a 12 sided die.
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  Right?
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  Like, we're playing D and D.
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  Exactly.
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  And and because I lost my voice at a very young age, when I lost my singing voice, I I had to
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  because I creativity couldn't leave me.
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  I was trying to because I was depressed.
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  I was frustrated because I couldn't sing.
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  But the creativity wouldn't leave me.
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  So in order not to lose touch with it totally, I started rapping.
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  So because my voice became so hoarse, I couldn't sing.
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  You know, imagine a guy who could sing a Mariah Carey at a time, and then and then all of a
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  sudden, he can't even he can't sing.
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  Suddenly, this young man hits puberty, and he can't do that anymore.
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  No.
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  That that's the funny thing.
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  It wasn't even pu it wasn't even puberty.
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  It was it was a a medical condition that I had called rhinitis.
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  My my nostrils were blocked.
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  So the air, I couldn't use you know, you need air to sing.
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  You need to control air.
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  So now I had lost control of the air.
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  I couldn't sing anymore, and I went for two nasal operations.
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  They both came out abortive.
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  I don't know for whatever reason, the doctors couldn't figure it out.
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  Nobody could.
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  So now I had to let go of singing and started rapping because I was the only in fact, I had
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  to rap I had to start rapping songs of people like Notorious VIG because he had a very thick
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  voice because that was how my voice was sounding as of that time.
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  But I discovered that the minute I let go of this singing and and my spirit kind of like the
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  tension in my spirit kind of came down, I discovered that, you know, in in eight months,
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  maybe I will be able to sing today, and then it becomes bad again.
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  Because the the blockage isn't just, like, total shutdown, so it's almost, like, fully
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  blocked.
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  And then sometimes it it, you know, it opens up a little.
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  I can sing a little, and then it it closes right back.
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  And then it started opening little by little, and this took about fifteen to eighteen years.
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  Oh.
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  For me.
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  Yes.
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  So so all through that span of time, in some cases, my voice is now good enough to just sing
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  maybe a country song where you don't really need to belt out high notes.
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  I just like, oh, you know, just just take it easy, and I'm and I'm good.
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  But if I try to go to high notes, I can do it.
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  And then and then gradually, even as my voice got better, I now realized that I could close
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  some part of my voice, collapse some part of my voice to achieve that tone that I was doing
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  when it was when my voice hadn't opened up to this.
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  So I now I now was able to use my voice in different ways or different genres of music.
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  So my my own my own music story is a very different and unique one in that regard.
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  So now I can go to, like if I wanna do, like, a normal country song that doesn't require, I
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  know how to close my voice.
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  If I wanted to do a pop song that requires me building out notes, I know that I need to open
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  my voice to its widest widest range.
• 22:03
  So in many ways, your condition seems like it made you an even better singer where you had
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  the talent before and you had the tools, but maybe you didn't know how to properly use them.
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  And through your condition, you became an even more powerful singer in that with your
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  technique and and really understanding your breathing and your voice.
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  That's incredible.
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  At
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  the end of the tunnel, that that's that's what I now see because it was it was such a pain.
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  And I know I would look up and say, god, why?
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  Like, why even why show me music and then take it away from me?
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  I was like, there was no girl in my choir back then that that can sing the kind of notes that
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  I would sing.
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  I was so confident in what I could do and then to just lose it all overnight.
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  It it wasn't funny.
• 22:50
  Well, that's a hero's journey, though, Zach.
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  See, is we all kinda know we're born with something inside of us, but we have to go
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  through so much of our lives, to to know what we're willing to give up to fight for
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  specialness.
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  Right?
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  And I think that's part of an artist journey that that a lot of people forget.
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  I think it what makes the best artist the best artist is that they've been through that and
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  and what a journey you've been on.
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  I've already taken up a ton of your time today.
• 23:18
  I just I'm totally enthralled by your story, Zexy.
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  Before I let you go, please tell everybody where they can find this beautiful album and
• 23:26
  where they can find out more about you online.
• 23:28
  Okay.
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  So Every Sound was released 08/29/2025.
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  It's across all streaming platforms.
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  These are Apple, Tidal, Spotify, AudioMad, BoomPlay, Amazon Music.
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  Any streaming platform you're on, the music is there.
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  It's the most eclectic album in the world, and I'm not saying this as just hype.
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  Go in there, listen to that album.
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  It's an hour, thirty minutes.
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  Just just sit down and and just listen.
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  You are going to enjoy the album.
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  Fifth over 15 genres.
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  And, if you wanna find me online, I'm on I'm on, Instagram at mister Zexzy, m r z e x z y.
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  On TikTok, you find me at king Zexzy, k I n g z e x z y.
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  On Facebook, it's Zexzy, z e x z y.
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  And, x two is mister Zexzy, m r z e x z y.
• 24:21
  Thank you so much for this opportunity.
• 24:23
  I really appreciate it.
• 24:25
  Zex, this has been a thrilling conversation for me, and really would love to have you back on
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  sometime in the future.
• 24:31
  Anytime.
• 24:32
  Anytime.
• 24:32
  I just I'm just glad.
• 24:34
  We try to keep these episodes a little bit shorter, but gosh, I'm having so much fun.
• 24:38
  I I almost hate to let
• 24:39
  you out.
• 24:39
  I don't I don't even wanna leave like that.
• 24:41
  Please, just let me know when you're done listening to the album.
• 24:44
  We can book another one, and then we'll talk more about it.
• 24:47
  Well, there you go.
• 24:48
  I would absolutely love that.
• 24:49
  So, Zexy, thanks for being on the program today.
• 24:52
  I appreciate And thank you for being part of the scene.
• 24:54
  Thank you so much.
• 24:55
  Bye bye.