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EL TREN DE LA VIDA 21-03-24 · EL TREN DE LA VIDA

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Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the
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train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I
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want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world,
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a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace
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and freedom. The train of life is a magaxin of good news and hope.
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This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and as many
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seekers of truth, of the only truth that can make us. A ute
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ven Te. I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of
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all that will definitely take you to safe harbour. This is the train of
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life. Good morning, Spain, bon day. From this corner of the
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Iberian solar, this mosaic of cultures is called Spain. Good people from the
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north, the south, the east and the west. This miscellanea of wonderful
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singularities, but we have to unify criteria and hearts and not go each for
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its part, because this is our common destiny. I invite you to travel
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with me on the train of life. This is Julio Perez. Come on,
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ladies, yes, gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, we' re going
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to travel together this morning in good company, well congratulations. Spring, welcome,
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Spring now, practically today we are in spring already this weekend more spring
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cannot be. We have had a spring winter very little water, few snows,
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some snowfall from the heavens to the earth, to this Iberian solar,
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but little in reality. In fact, we are still deficient in water in
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the reservoirs. But in the meantime, because we survive here, we'
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re, we' re not going to see everything is up to date,
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we' re up to date. This sense of anticipation, of foresight is
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almost extinguishing them no, no, you don' t think of even too
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much of the next generation. The issue of pensions to baby boomers, which
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already, well, evident, already be here, but pre practically and those
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that come behind, because the bank has disappeared. We shall see, of
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course, how it is, but surely it is not very good news.
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The subject of future pensions. God, I don' t want to be
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wrong, but he wants to tell you that the sense of anticipation of planning
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forecasting is becoming less and less. It is improvising, look at politics,
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Spanish politics, good and right now and in a total disaster. Sometimes it
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' s not a government or another, it' s that almost everyone has
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a lot of twigs of this kind, but, for example, in this
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last batch, well, that' s improvised, you change your mind the
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next day and very important things and you change your plan. There' s
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not enough plan, the hydrological plan, the water issue, the disalking issue.
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As far as water is concerned, this week was International Water Day before
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yesterday and weather. I also mean water, water, vital water. But
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just like that, other issues of security, pensions, domestic policy, international
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relations. I don' t know this is gonna be it. And then,
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when someone does something like that on the go, which is dreamy and
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so and it' s good, you' re improvising hear improvise yourself more
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than I do a thousand times you mean and improvisations, in many cases they
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' re very unfortunate. Not in others, because there are those who have
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art and part in the subject and what it says is true and besides,
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it has resources of ingenuity, it has a store of ideas, it has
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foresight, it makes a sense. Anyway, I' m not going to
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give you a speech about improvisation that you already understand what I' m talking
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about, but today we have good company. We have Daniel Ozkan today.
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Daniel Oscan is Spanish of Argentine origin, but more Spanish than anyone in Galicia,
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in the Galicias, lives there. He' s the director of digital
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Protestant. She' s a pro- real journalist and I thank God for
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looking. There is a generation of journalists in the Christian world, Lucho Pan
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Duro, Fernando Díaz, also Daniel Diez, of course, Juan Carlos Parra
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and so many others that I could still mention. A servant also and who
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are people who do the job, know what they are talking about, have
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training and are up to date and work for the Kingdom of God, but
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also are not alien to human realities. So those I' ve mentioned to
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you all have academic, professional, university, etcetera training. It means it
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' s not a generation of outcasts coming here, because some criticized that once.
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No. These are purely amateurs, no. No. No, no,
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we' re amateurs. What happens is that we have dedicated our investment
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in that time, this redemptive project, which is the salvation of the human
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being for all eternity or superdition in the worst of cases, and Christ came
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to seek and save what had been lost among them and I am recovered by
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him. Therefore, we will be talking about the other look of the day
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with Daniel Azcán, director of Digital Protestant. This morning here on the train
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of life, about news and then look we have two promo theologians talking to
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us about Clie' s new publication on the patristic Bible study. The patristics
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are the parents of the church who followed the apostles. The disciples of the
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apostles and the disciples of the disciples and the men who followed the Bible Christian
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tradition. There are those who look at the church, for example, Catholic,
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as such dogmatic and with all the paraphernalia, dogma, mysteries, the
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imagery of worship. For to Mary and all that, that appeared in the
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fifth century and curiously it was at a council in Ephesus also what it was
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would be the ceo tocos. No, or some say the theus knocks on
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the Mother of God. Well, God doesn' t have a mother,
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but they were talking about Jesus, the Mother of Jesus, but the term
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was the Mother of God as a corredemptor. That came much later, much
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later the subject of the corredentora, the immaculate, which is not biblical either,
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and or the corredentora. And such a good thing, not all of
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that. Mary was an extraordinary woman whom we Christians cherish and love, but
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not from there to the other. But I mean that the history of the
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Church, apart from that the tenth century of the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church,
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is not the Church of the beginning, It is a church that came out
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in the fifth century where already sixth left already with boat. And because of
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the crisis also of the Roman Empire, also the bishops of the cities had
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to take control of the decomposition of the empire and there were many historical changes
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and those began to become saclarified, self- exalted to the bishops of the
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cities, who were the pastors of the city, and there were good shepherds
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and other bishops and bad ones who were the citil of Rome, who called
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him the Pope. Hence the idea of the Pope, as Primate of Rome
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and as the center of the Empire and all this history, is born.
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Well, I could tell them the story, but that' s not the
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case. But, for example, alfonro ropero is a historian of pro doctor
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in history, doctor in theology and editor. He' s been clie for
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many years and he' s an expert in patristics. We have spoken to
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him, but I have also been to Jesus Zamora, a man who has
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much to say about this, younger, but who has worked on the review.
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And there they appear in the comments and reflections of the parents of the
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Church, of many of them and the truth that is magnificent what the parents
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say. Some also say some barbarities, but most of the Church' s
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parents, of whom you select here, are very wise people and you will
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see that there is a contrast between the theologies of today and those of the
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Church' s history. Well, don' t miss it. I will
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show you the volume that I have here of patrística, the Bible, of
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study, of patriotic of the centuries one to the sixth of editorial Clie,
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a monumental work. I am passionate because I have better understood the history of
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the Church by reading to parents and reading the history of the Church in different
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authors and so I have reached my conclusions, because do not miss it.
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This morning here, on the train of life, the otor rock, will
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tell us about problems of the digestive system, because sometimes good if they are
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the kidneys, good kidneys so collateral, uh, but of the digestive system,
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the intestinal tract, the stomach itself to the lower belly. Well,
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there is the spleen, the pancreas that is in this area also very delicate,
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highly delicate also when there are inflammations, disturbances, some pathology of or,
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some question your moral. We need to know a little bit and have
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a sense of anticipation, because let' s talk about all these things also
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with Dr Rocca, our family doctor. Here on the train of life.
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Once crowned with thorns, he was found. The king was ground and
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crushed to blood to shed the darkness covered that mountain and his body was wrapped
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up in the messis. Buried, it was the sin of this world on
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his shoulders, he carried, the lamb was slain to give us redemption.
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Everything there was consummated and he veiled is traited on the cross. My victory
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won out of love our eternal retreat. There is no longer for our tern
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god the prince always of payment, there is no condemnation before me, will
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surrender to you the eternal re Then, within hell there is heard a great
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tremor, a sigh from heaven to the death of broken seeing sin we are
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free. We celebrate that he triumphed in hell, the Tuzuzuzco terro, a
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detroterne son, was Avengerous aloyama from before, without all that is left are
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very much his tomb manfer, with his spirit full and his breath work,
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life to the lamb that died as a lone. He has risen to the
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tun to mention all I saw Jesus Christ does by vi your tempo quotes his
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throne terro command and to the two places still or syncline, two hombres man,
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not well, no, if you want to visit our website, the
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www. The train of life, the train of life, of life is
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always marte, because it is like life itself. It' s unstoppable.
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It is this living parable of ourselves. We don' t travel on a
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train without realizing too much. Look I was traveling by train yesterday, I
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went to Madrid and I came back in that fast bird not and the truth,
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because it is not so good and so fast that it shortens times and
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we can also take advantage of the journeys for many things. Landscape, I
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got up. I went for coffee and the newspaper, the paper paper.
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I read the virtual newspapers every day, but I like the paper newspaper and
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other things. And so I expect on this train there are always travelers,
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as special and among them and there is the director of digital Protestant, Daniel
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Odcar, the other look of the day. Let' s see him.
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I welcome my good friend Daniel. Good morning, Daniel how about Good morning,
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July, how are you doing, man, Yes, you' d
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like to travel by plane by car more, what' s your favorite ride.
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I like the train. I also like the train that is more comfortable,
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that you don' t have to be worried about driving and that you
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can also take a nap if you want. Or you can also have coffee
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in the cafeteria car. It is quite true that when I can, if
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I can choose a chosen transport is and what happens is that here, from
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Galicia, we don' t have that much choice either. Then we need
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to improve those communications a little bit thanks to this area. But if whenever
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I can try, yes, yes, yes, the truth hears I remember,
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well. When I was a kid I would travel a little bit in
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trincoo from time to time we would go to the region of Murcia, where
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my whole family is. They are alcantarilleros of Murcia, capital of Mulcia,
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of a town and then I remember that, since the three are ancient of
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the time of the sixty- seventies, well sixty and so, some will
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say that older this man then, but the matter is in that I remember
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that I made a trip with one of my older brothers who has already passed
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away, and we were on a train, the Sevillano Andalusia. We'
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re going to a family wedding. I don' t know what. I
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don' t remember well, I was all very small and it was a
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typical train like the West, with smelly wooden seats, but these super uncomfortable.
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People mostly stood in the hallways, because there was more than full.
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So, those historic trains. No and now clear this, this is glory
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comparatively. True, since again, I believe that the biggest, perhaps train
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journey when I was a teenager, a trip to Barcelona. In fact,
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on the train trip from Pontevedra to Barcelona and they were not sure if it
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was thirteen hours of train or something, so it was quite an adventure.
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In addition, I went with friends and with good, with the expectation of
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a few vacation days, so it was an unforgettable experience and the truth that
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well, at that time it was even these trains that had also in bed
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and could be looking on the train. Yes, but I think this is
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almost no longer in Spain, there are almost no night trips of this type,
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so I don' t know if there are any. I think it
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does none anymore and I don' t know if elsewhere in the country it
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won' t continue to see. But, of course, it also looked
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like an experience that I always remember with great affection. Of course I do,
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well, there' s the three myths. The origin ex Press good,
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not as mythical, but more tortuous as the Transberian and the history trains
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have. We could dedicate you to a program in the pure truth. Yes,
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by the way, Daniel, for our teeth that see you you are
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the director of Digital Protestant for years now as a journalist, also that you
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are professionally and that we know your origin. You say, we are of
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Argentine origin, but you have from Argentine what I have from Ecuadorian. I
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mean, as far as it' s concerned, but you' re from
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Argentina from your family. Yes, yes, yes, well, we were
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born in Argentina and came to Spain when I was ten years old with my
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parents, with your family, in the year ninety- four. So I
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did grow up in Argentina in Mendoza and well, I have, it'
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s true that I' ve already lost people, but I still have a
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lot of family there And when it' s the World Cup, I also
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go with Argentina. So I do still have very deep ties with Argentina.
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It' s true that good. In the case of my Argentine comic book,
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our surnames are European, really yes, and in my case, because
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you change a Dutch surname and the other surnames I have are Italian. I
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mean, let' s say that the European heritage is there, so we
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' re not so high in this area. It' s not clear either.
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Sure, sure, no, because your accent is totally Spanish, but
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pure, I don' t know any sign of, but good is just
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to get to know a little. I' m an indomitable chaperone in that
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sense. No, well, hey, look at the news, they'
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re so much. Once in two thousand and fifty, in the year we
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will see if we expect us to reach two thousand and fifty, that is,
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Don rush Putín, do not put us in a nuclear winter, even
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though he himself shot himself in the head. But in two thousand fifty,
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three out of four countries not large maintain the size of their population. In
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two thousand hundred good, that' s already a lot to say, more
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than half of the babies on the planet will be born in sub- Saharan
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Africa and actually here are two thousand fifty more than three quarters of the countries
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will not be born enough children to maintain the size of their own populations.
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And in two thousand hundred only six of the two hundred and four countries and
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territories of the world, l Somalia, tong, Ganiger, Chat, etc.
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Six will have fertility rates higher than two to one child per woman,
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which is the guarantee of demographic replacement. As a result, at the beginning
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of the next century, more than half of all babies on the planet will
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be born in sub- Saharan Africa, because we are in the two thousand
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and fifty, which is just around the corner that gives twenty- five or
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twenty- six years, we are more lost than the rice boat. I
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mean the new generation. Yes, and well it is perceived that there is
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an important change due to the subject of demography. So far perhaps it has
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not been taken too much notice, because let us say that the populations have
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been more or less maintained in a certain stability. In fact, there is
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always talk that we would see population growth and there is a sustained growth,
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but there are regions as it is going to be now in the case of
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Europe, which is already called an ageing Europe and which really is where fewer
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children are born and even though immigration does come in, because it is not
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enough to make sufficient replacement of population. And it seems that we are going
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towards that clear horizon the consequences that this is going to get are what are
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not yet very clear. Bullshit, there are some who are very catastrophists and
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really think it' s going to end up like some kind of total social
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and economic collapse. We could go to that It' s not since and
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others who think that well, that real readjustments are going to take place as
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to what our life forms are in our way of a little staying. Obviously,
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the fact that people live many more years is also going to have to
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do that at some point, because we also have to work longer because there
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is not going to be enough. Let' s say young people working to
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be able to sustain the system of restraints, at least in the system in
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which we are currently moving. So it' s all a little incoct.
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What can happen and, of course, what is going to happen is that
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strength of the youth they are doing in Africa, the continent that is growing
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faster in population and as progress is also being made in these countries that can
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guarantee a proper life for these people, which is also another problem so far
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in many of the African countries that have high birth rates, because there are
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really very high rates, also of corruption, there is a very little development
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also in the gini index, the education index and the valuing of education and
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also the possibilities for the development of people. Then, of course, there
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are issues that, as time progresses, should also be resolved. But we
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also see that sometimes reality, because it is not let us say what we
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would like it to be. For example, in Africa too, we see
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that it is a continent where, unfortunately, jihadism is wreaking havoc and doesn
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' t look like it goes any less. That is, there are countries
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that are really turning their policies towards greater acceptance of Islam as part of its
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legal structure. And all this, then, does not benefit development, but
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rather the contrary. So these are interesting times in that sense to analyze,
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but difficult that I think I can foresee what can happen from here to even
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ten, fifteen, twenty, forty years and also adding another one of the
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conditioning ones that appear on the horizon. Besides, the toño has mentioned the
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nuclear issue a little bit. This could, of course, change many things,
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but also, of course, the climate horizon that is being talked about
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quite a bit, but that we really do not know the consequences that it
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may also have when it comes to population mobility and when it comes to survival
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itself, so to speak, of our species in this world that at times
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seems to be, as he says, breaking, not groaning, that it
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is moaning and that it is complaining, waiting for a final renewal that will
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come when Christ returns. If we believe Christians, yes, this is not
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far off. Each time when Jesus said of the fig tree learn the parable,
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when you see that the leaves are already tender and indicate the summer is
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near and speaks of the signs and some have already been fulfilled in the twentieth
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century. They are being fulfilled in the moral and decadent state of humanity,
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the acceleration of everything. But say the authors of the study, of this
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demographic study, predict a fierce competition for migrants to sustain growth in countries,
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especially Western countries. So in the same way that there is a controversy for
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regularizing this issue. Of course for that well, here it comes from everything,
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but at the same time the need is imperative, it overcomes and then
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there will be fierce competition to have migrants. That' s why this is
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complex. The theme is a board of club agents imagine. We are not
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at a time when there are so many European parties that are advocating the closure
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of borders, that they are criminalizing immigrants and that they are actually painting a
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picture that in part, as always, there is no part of truth,
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but there is a lot of exaggeration as well, in what sometimes these more
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extreme political parties, because they are proposing and it is really one of the
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issues that will be marking the European elections, the issue of immigration and how
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to deal with this issue And above all, we see that there are right
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- wing or ultra- right parties that are choosing to say well, we
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are going to close, we have to close borders, we have to throw
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people out or we have to regulate it more rigidly. And imagine if in
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ten, fifteen years or twenty that, as you said, because it'
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s not that long either, these same countries are going to be trying to
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bring people in because of the lack of manpower. When the refugee crisis in
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Syria began. The war in Syria brought many refugees to Europe who entered in
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a regularised manner, but in a regularized way because they were really made easier
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to come as refugees. And I remember that Germany was one of the countries
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that received the most and basically, one of the arguments for which they welcomed
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so many was that they already considered and glimpsed that they would need labor to
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be able to maintain, say, the industrial machinery of their country and be
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a way in which they could also solve some of the problems they were already
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beginning to glimpse. So I wouldn' t rule out that many of the
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things that we' re seeing now and are being said maybe in a few
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years, because they change the turns and you really start to see it differently,
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surely, very likely, very probably. Or other news that we are.
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I don' t know how humanity is. I call it injustice,
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justice. Perhaps, Daniel Ves, the man who unmistakably committed a robbery,
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raped a woman who, well, that does not make him think it was
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not the first time, but in this case it was unintentionally, not consentingly,
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and the others might be the same. The fact is that he will
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be released on bail of one million euros after fourteen months in prison. How
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is it possible that justice is sold to the highest bidder is this is wearable,
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but besides, how can we solve that? It' s not right,
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it' s not right in this kind of thing, there are things
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of lesser order. Of course, I think the problem here, which we
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all think is a terrible thing. Not there seems to be a price that
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can be paid and anyone who can pay the price can do things that others
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would not be allowed to do. And we' re just talking about a
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rape case, a sexual assault, which is something that leaves such a terrible
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mark on people. And we' re really surprised, most of us,
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we' re surprised that there' s even this possibility that a person with
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this heritage, because he' s really able to pay money and reduce his
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grief in this way. It is clear that good justifications here, because justice
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is really always going to need resources and then these resources will use for protocols
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or to improve whatever it is, but it is still an absolute indignity.
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It was heard today, yesterday and today the lawyer of the person affected by
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the rape, because she was really putting the cry a little bit into heaven
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and saying how this might happen. And yet, we see that the laws
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are made in a way that allows this and I really think it is important
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that we know it and I would like to see some sort of reaction also
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from our politicians, who are sometimes involved in other issues and actually this which
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really has nothing to do with, especially with the legislative apparatus, which has
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to make changes there so that this cannot be allowed, because let us hope
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that there is some kind of reaction and that it is done in other ways
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as well, that it is done well, because sometimes also when it is
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legislated, I hit a bit of a headline, because sometimes mistakes are made.
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What is clear, then, is that something is becoming apparent that is
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clearly unfair and I believe that, as a country, action is needed.
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It' s just that this is even more indecent than what he has done,
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which is highly indecent, is one of the most execrable things that you
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can throw in the face of this golfer without shame, which is not only
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because what happened there, but there is already a history of this one already
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have to disappear from circulation. I mean that you won' t be allowed
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to see and sportily nothing at all, except four friends that good Neymar,
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I think it will help you pay her that amount that he has money,
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but well, he also has many debts. And the subject is to me.
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I don' t care what he' s got. Stop having the
37:39
matter this is such atrocious public indecency, it' s an ethically good one.
37:47
That is to say if we sell ourselves and sell our soul, to
37:52
the devil, to the devil for the sake of the sucker and when we
37:59
say suckers that sounds strong, no, but Mamón is the god of money
38:06
and this, allow me the expression seems a bit vulgar and this mamon may
38:12
sound strong for the money, for a million euros that can be blamed to
38:17
this criminal, for this girl what has happened. This is intolerable. This
38:21
if we allow this good, we are allowing through traps, many things,
38:27
no, but if we allow. Well, it doesn' t surprise me
38:30
and I' m not that trend, but I' m not surprised that
38:37
in the end there' s a dictator who doesn' t know what he
38:40
can ride and who drags as it happened with Gil. It will make him
38:42
masses, because these kinds of things generate a clamor and then the balance goes
38:47
away, if I don' t know if you' ve seen the wave
38:51
movie, which is generating movement and just as it seems like nothing that gives
38:54
and then becomes an unstoppable and totally harmful movement, but it is born as
39:00
a movement of protest towards certain injustices. Well, careful, careful, don
39:07
' t stop or don' t stop at something like that. For this
39:12
reason and for so many judicial and legislative misdemeanours, especially because it is born
39:17
the legislature, justice applies what the legislature has done the Penal Code is being
39:22
completely invested or the Criminal Code is being perverted, yes, it is already.
39:30
Perversion alone' s law is yes already. It was good that the
39:36
historical memory of this Minister must already disappear from the annals of Spanish politics,
39:40
because it has been such a brutal indecency. Of course, of course,
39:45
of course and well we see that not as there are laws that are clearly
39:52
so wrong. But, on the other hand, we see when other laws
39:55
have been proposed that have been adopted in recent years. Well, they'
39:59
ve been told. This law is wrong, as you have said now the
40:02
example of the law it only yes yes, or the law trans other laws
40:06
also that also touch just aspects of the Penal Code, because they do not
40:15
want, do not want to hear it or do not want to hear the
40:16
critics? Or they don' t want to listen to experts, sometimes because
40:21
they go against what they' re proposing. And actually then the consequences are
40:25
paid for. And the consequences that are paid are tremendously negative, especially for
40:31
the victims, but, of course for the whole of society, for the
40:35
whole of society, because we are all affected. And it also generates this
40:39
climate of distrust towards the institutions, which is really very negative, and then
40:45
it can lead to these kinds of movements that you now pointed out, this
40:51
type of populism, which also take advantage of these weaknesses of the system and
40:58
that we really have to know how to tackle them so that it doesn'
41:02
t just stick to those proposals that end up wanting to solve things, let
41:12
' s say hammered or very radically, but that end up being negative,
41:15
so history has shown us that way. It is dear, friend, another
41:20
news that attracts attention Well, it can be theoretical. The Prime Minister of
41:23
Estonia, Cajacayas, says to avoid World War III, Russia must lose and
41:30
you are right about that. It' s true, it' s not
41:36
World War III. Well, you don' t know this, only God
41:39
knows and everything could precipitate the final events and emerge that character. Sinestro that
41:47
will emerge at some point, that will bring an almost superhuman containment solution,
41:57
but to end the rasputines of turn as where Putin. But it is true
42:02
that this character must be defeated. And there' s a curiosity. It
42:08
is Russia that is China that is calling it the axis of evil from the
42:14
West, North Korea, such extremist countries, China, Russia and some other.
42:25
But it really is that we must contain this. China is saying don
42:31
' t you dare push the nuclear button because you' re ruining my business,
42:38
my economic imperialism, you' re ruining it. And I don'
42:40
t want a planet in a nuclear winter, because we lose everything and we
42:45
still lose ourselves, we too would be affected. And it is China that
42:50
contains Russia. It' s China, uh, it' s not another
42:52
one. But the bully is like a character who' s not right where
42:57
he has to be from, it' s true. And the Minister is
43:00
right when she says that Russia has to lose in Ukraine, of course we
43:07
must always understand the statements in their context. In the case of the President
43:10
of Estonia, it must be remembered that as part of the Baltic States,
43:15
which are countries that have already gained independence from the great Russia and that remain
43:24
a bastion of freedom, in a sense of independence from Russia, of everything
43:31
that means being under the Putin regime and seeing the enemy very close. In
43:39
that sense, they do not realize that once Putina has advanced her troops,
43:44
as she has done in Ukraine, she has developed the war when there were
43:49
many who said that it was not going to happen, and he has.
43:52
So countries like Estonia, because it' s very clear says in this we
43:59
can' t let it rise another millimeter. What happens that the options also
44:05
of a defeat of Russia. That is how Russia is defeated. That is
44:08
the big question, because defeating Russia involves triggering a war, that is,
44:16
attacking Russia or strengthening. To what extent does this aid to the defence of
44:23
Ukraine, involving, for example, an entry of NATO directly into the conflict,
44:29
and this is a little what is now getting cheaper? To what extent
44:32
is it going to go or to what extent it would have to go so
44:37
that a position for Ukraine that is suitable for them and does not take them,
44:45
does not leave the possibility for Russia to continue with that plan that it
44:51
has initiated in Ukraine, for an imperialist plan. So let' s see
44:57
what happens. As you rightly said, there are more actors here than much
45:00
and on the global stage, it could be a brake on what could happen
45:07
if only Russia was here and there was no one in front of it.
45:09
They, I think they know and Putings knows how far it can go.
45:15
The problem is that when you skip that line of invading Ukraine, you start
45:22
to wonder that another line would not be willing to jump. And that'
45:28
s a little bit of the point, and that' s why I think
45:31
we' ve seen it in statements by rulers from Estonia, Poland, Finland,
45:37
Sweden, almost every country that has a border or is close to Russia,
45:45
because they see that they can' t trust that they' re going
45:51
to be calm and that they' re not going to make any other movement
45:55
that extends the war to another scenario. So, well, it' s
45:59
a sad situation of tension and it also generates that uncertainty of what might happen
46:07
in the future. Even we, as Christians, believe in God, believe
46:15
that all things are in God' s hands, but we also know that
46:19
in the world in which we are, because many forces of evil move and
46:22
people also sometimes make absolutely irresponsible decisions and that they harm not only them or
46:30
their generation, but they can even cause harm that lasts generations. Let us
46:35
hope that we do not have to reach that stage and let us not forget
46:40
the history, the history of our continent in World War II, the destructions
46:49
that I leave that are still being noticed and still visible in many of the
46:57
conflicts that still exist in the world and that we should not forget to not
47:04
repeat that imperialist delusion, already from the tsars and in Russia, from the
47:09
Soviets, and prevalent is like a kind of demon of power, demonia that
47:20
intergenerationally reproduces. And that is delusions of grandeur of control and, above all,
47:25
evil, in the case of Stalin, in the case of putting,
47:30
in the case that they murdered so many millions of people and other suchtes and
47:36
the worst version of the Tsars, also people dying of hunger and totally.
47:42
But we see that pattern reproduced in Germany, with Prussia, that imperialist delusion
47:50
until World War II, which was defeated and stopped there. But also that
47:58
imperialist expansionist delirium China, also formerly also, but with mause tun, with
48:06
the new leaders, that delirium but evil, of manipulation, of control,
48:13
of perversion, of so many things. And in the case of Russia,
48:17
I would also like to add that I find regrettable the position also in this
48:24
regard, of the official religion, in this regard, the Russian Church,
48:30
the Russian Orthodox Church, which is unconditionally supporting Putin and which, indeed,
48:38
does not raise a prophetic voice against what he is doing. And even as
48:47
Putin sees it in many of his interviews and many of his messages, he
48:52
uses this as a way to validate his war as well, that is,
48:58
he says and many of the statements we have heard from him in recent months
49:02
by an actor related to this election issue. He just saw Russia yesterday,
49:07
where he won again, because he speaks a lot about God. He talks
49:15
about the right to protect his nation, to protect the family. He speaks
49:20
of a model of life that is against the demonic model of the West and
49:27
of recovering and that they are like the spiritual reserve. It speaks of being
49:32
the spiritual reserve of the West, of the world. And to me it
49:38
really seems tremendously offensive that a war is really being waged on these terms and
49:45
that the name of God is being used to justify these kinds of actions.
49:51
I totally reject it and it seems to me that, as Christians we can
50:00
say, we have to denounce that this is not an adequate way to talk
50:07
about these things and that it is not justifiable in any sense, because from
50:15
then on, God has not ordered putting to invade Ukraine or to maintain an
50:22
authoritarian regime in his country. This is not God' s will and I
50:25
really believe that, as Christians, we should say it clearly too without any
50:30
doubt, this is a breach of a principle of that humanity, of breaking
50:37
freedoms, even human dignity. All the horror of the war, the destruction
50:43
of so many thousands of lives, as well as Israel' s war against
50:47
the Gaza Strip, regardless of the terrorist act that never made it so barbaric.
50:52
And in addition, we should take them and put all of us in
50:57
a wall and end them, who are the original cours of this reaction.
51:02
But Israel' s reaction is barbarous. She' s totally wild, inhuman,
51:08
and we have to condemn her. And I am a man who loves
51:13
the Israeli culture of principle, understanding well the things of even prophetically the assignments
51:20
that God gave to Israel and gives towards the end of time, because he
51:23
loves that people. But it does not justify their demeanor and their political barbarities
51:31
to kill more than thirty- zero people, including not only children, which
51:35
is a greater barbarity of women, but human beings. This is madness,
51:40
this must be stopped truth, yes, yes, of course to see what
51:45
we are seeing also engagement, as you were saying now and also similar arguments
51:51
are sometimes also used arguments that have to do also with spiritual things and,
51:58
of course, that there is a spiritual struggle. That' s not what
52:01
we' re at all. Disputing. We think that' s there,
52:05
too. But when you see that there really are actions of governments that already
52:15
declare it as they do not want to seek a stage of peace, they
52:20
are looking for destruction. Not only do they leave more, but much more,
52:23
much more, much more, much more, and you really see actions
52:30
that are terrible. We have seen, therefore, that people who were going
52:35
to get food have been shot. We have seen attacks have also been launched
52:38
on previously unannounced sites that were inhabited by families and have not really been given
52:45
a choice. I mean, they' re families that are often not even
52:47
having a choice of escape, escape, where to put, they don'
52:52
t know where to go and all this is being done because they really want
52:58
to do it. So, I mean, it' s not a cost
53:01
that they wouldn' t want to do it. Clearly, there is no
53:06
great fault on the part of Hamas and on the part of Gaza that for
53:09
many years, and it is not that we have to look for good ones
53:14
and bad ones. But it really is a situation that should also be sought
53:21
a diplomatic solution that at least stops the deaths of as many people as we
53:28
are seeing. I don' t know what a recount is like anymore,
53:30
but I think about thirty zero people have already died in Gaza. Maybe I
53:34
' m getting short and well added to the other thousand- and- a
53:42
- peak who also died from never- ending tankers on October 7. I
53:46
think hundreds of sixty or one hundred and seventy hostages are still being kidnapped there.
53:52
It is also perribe, that is, that it never continues to hold
53:57
hostages and not the levels. Indeed a situation is also entrenched in the people
54:05
who are also making the decisions, because they do not seem to be peacemakers,
54:12
but rather people who are often guided by evil and revenge, revenge.
54:22
That is not the right engines to be able to address such a matter the
54:28
law of the heel, the eye for an eye and says, as someone
54:30
has said, the world goes blind in this case and then they say good,
54:36
for this is a kind of altruism of the left and so noiga.
54:40
This is humanity in its pure essence. This is outrageous. A person that
54:46
I love of Israel and but of course no one' s affection issues as
54:53
criminal as this, that there is an initial reaction, that there is an
54:58
action of punishment and other measures and all that. But by now a massive
55:02
destruction of the Gaza Strip has to come to a recomposition of this. I
55:07
don' t know. The subject of the Palestinian State. It is very
55:10
difficult, very controversial indeed, as the Spanish Government is claiming, among others.
55:17
But the truth is that some solution has to be found to these people.
55:22
You can' t let these millions of people die anywhere. And then,
55:30
for that he has sages is supposed to be the on or, the
55:35
world. But then a character like netanyahuo because I don' t know if
55:39
he runs forward to hide some of his misdeeds. Also intimate political corruptions,
55:49
but not at all. And everyone is saying enough already, it' s
55:52
going to be enough already, enough already, but not there, enough already.
55:54
I do not know that God, may God have mercy on the people
56:00
of Gaza and on so many people who are innocent. Yes, it is
56:05
very sad what we are seeing and I think that some time again we have
56:10
commented on the leadership crisis that we see at the global level, in the
56:15
sense that leaders who make decisions or are a little bit yes making key decisions
56:23
in that regard, start a war, not start a war, respond in
56:28
such a way or in such a way. How they really make decisions that
56:35
end up generating more violence, generating more death, also generating a lot of
56:42
injustice, and that this makes us see in that sense, because a panorama
56:49
a little desperate at the international level. I think there are still many things
56:53
that are not as bad as they might be, because the economic situation at
56:59
a general level, as it is more or less taking place and there is
57:01
not a big collapse in that sense. But we are seeing how, in
57:05
this situation, we generate this kind of conflict if we were in a critical
57:12
situation economically at the global level, because really with these leaderships I feared the
57:19
worst, burned the worst. Regretful and wait talking before Russia and good of
57:23
Israel. I' m sure, in that sense, if the new tenant
57:29
of the White House is again the dance that is no more sweet peri,
57:34
neither is a man who does not respond to the demands of the situation in
57:40
the United States. The United States continues to have a very large, very
57:45
large internal crisis. And if Donald trun comes, then you will see the
57:50
international unrest that occurs, and among them, friend of Marras' s friend,
57:57
Don Rars Putit, then he means we will see. The board of
58:02
international politics is almost demonized, although some see a sort of redeemer in Donald
58:10
Trump. We will see if it had been good that we will not see,
58:17
that Halley would have been a more focused woman, also with a background,
58:23
even of Christian values, more realistic and more serious. But well,
58:28
there is still a prejudice in American politics, there is a prejudice towards leadership
58:34
and women so much that they are in so many very progressive orders, but
58:39
in that there is still prejudice. That' s the thing. But it
58:44
would take this good if it was prosecuted for the high treason that Donald trun
58:50
committed with the assault on the Capitol, which was a coup, but in
58:52
a serious version, if he is ultimately prosecuted, yes Halley could be the
58:57
candidate, but well, what happens is that I do what we should be
59:00
doing to the idea that it is going to be Trump, that it will
59:07
be cool yes, let' s say judicially, in the end, if
59:12
the decision ends up depending on the Supreme Court, it is difficult that it
59:15
can get to that point. Above all, well, Trump was the one
59:20
who placed three of the members. Of course, then, well, those
59:24
who owe you favors, but let' s say yes, you may have
59:30
a good tendency that you really, judicially can' t have problems and let
59:36
' s see if you really what happens. If there' s a second
59:38
Trump mandate, there' s obviously going to be a lot of people,
59:44
because they' re also turning on the alarms. Anyway, you always have
59:46
to be a little cautious when it comes to making previous analyses. We have
59:52
to get to Trump first. No one thought he' d make it.
59:53
Then he came. Yes, terrible things happened, but also others that well,
59:59
because they didn' t really happen. Let' s say the apocalypse
1:00:02
that many also said they were coming then. In this sense, let'
1:00:07
s see what ends up happening. But it is going to find a different
1:00:10
international panelambia, because now there is already a conflict, obviously, on the
1:00:15
table in Ukraine Russia and then, on the other hand, with its relations
1:00:21
in the Asian part, because we will see what happens in case in cran
1:00:25
it arrives to the government always the United States, being already an act,
1:00:31
an important actor, but no longer the only actor. That too, of
1:00:36
course, we are in a different world. There is no longer a hegemony
1:00:40
on the part of the United States, but there are actually several who can
1:00:44
talk to it about your art, much less. India is an important emerging
1:00:47
actor that already has a lot of weight, it will definitely have more.
1:00:52
China, of course, does. But for a country as important as the
1:00:59
United States, a political manager as he doesn' t know how to govern,
1:01:05
other than this one like Vaiden, who is a character that doesn'
1:01:07
t have to be. They have no other candidate for the Democrats, they
1:01:10
have no other candidate for the Republicans, which is that those like me would
1:01:15
bet on Mrs Harley in this case, but the one to govern a country
1:01:22
and give these political velocities that can lead the world into chaos. That'
1:01:30
s what takes us away. But, well, I' m sure this
1:01:31
will make you talk. And but finally, the courtyard of my house is
1:01:35
particular, they say, the courtyard of national politics. It is good now
1:01:44
elections in Catalonia soon, the freezing of the general budgets of the State,
1:01:51
the amnesty applied, well, although now it will be delayed a little because
1:01:54
it has to go to the Senate. The Senate rejects it and so act
1:01:59
at least until June July. We don' t know if Don Pux de
1:02:05
Mon will run for June. Nor in the polls do we expect this to
1:02:10
be. Houha in favor of independence, far from it. People are so
1:02:15
tired of this. Hey at the popular level but totally and they don'
1:02:22
t want cheap comics. Even if it is said that we want to itac
1:02:24
the moon, the jupiter world and this people no longer go there, although
1:02:30
if there is an independence feeling, but people do not want and care you
1:02:36
can not do that again. Forgive me and the reflection I leave to you
1:02:39
at your discretion, because when you talk about this reference is impossible, it
1:02:45
would have to be two- thirds and it would have to be the People
1:02:49
' s Party is also impossible. There can be no referendum on self-
1:02:52
determination. There is no self- determination in any democracy in the world,
1:02:57
in any constitution it means. But it would also be imposino is that it
1:03:00
is not possible. There' s no reason to tell lies that they want
1:03:05
us to believe. But, apart from this, I don' t know
1:03:07
what, I don' t know how much. If such an act were
1:03:08
to be committed again, the thing would be very serious, that is,
1:03:13
even the exthema. And they know it and even if they say we'
1:03:16
re going to do it and we' ll come back and they know it
1:03:21
and they know that Troy' s would be armed. And now it wouldn
1:03:22
' t be the same. And I hope that doesn' t happen,
1:03:25
because we' re going to this country like no good to see. I
1:03:30
think politicians have to settle down a little bit in reality and try to start
1:03:36
solving people' s problems to see if that definitely happens or continue as it
1:03:40
has been this whole last year, from appointment to election date. And it
1:03:45
seems that governing consists of promoting itself for the next, to occupy the next
1:03:52
position that goes on sale is a little sad to see this political panorama.
1:03:58
Also well, it already announces a legislature at the level of Spain of a
1:04:04
lot of political crisis and, of course, they are fulfilling it. That
1:04:06
' s what they announced, they' re doing. On the catablamos comes
1:04:12
a week- long scandal of corruption and attacks in Congress. They' re
1:04:17
already attacking, well, it' s barbaric for their partners, for the
1:04:23
rivers their relatives have. We' ve already reached that point in the mud.
1:04:27
Let' s see what' s next. But, well, let
1:04:30
' s not go ahead with events. I' m sure it' s
1:04:34
going to get a little worse coming weeks, as it gets done than on
1:04:40
election dates and we' re really going to see what happens. Of course
1:04:43
in the middle of all this, people, for, on the one hand,
1:04:45
what you said not a certain disenchantment, of course, because already really
1:04:51
that disenchantment is getting noticed. These people are talking about their affairs and not
1:04:58
what really closes our lives. That' s a very clear point there.
1:05:03
But of course also, as we said before, the problem of that disaffection
1:05:08
that ends up, because really those who usually take advantage of these disaffections are
1:05:15
the parties or positions that are, we could say more populist, that offer
1:05:20
easy solutions, that they say, because we have to throw them all out.
1:05:21
Or they say, then, what needs to be done is and some
1:05:25
idea that can appear at first sight, because it solves things, but that
1:05:30
does not really lead to a real solution. And that' s a bit
1:05:34
of a risk. We have also seen it in other countries, in other
1:05:39
places where populist rulers and with a certain authoritarian profile, because they end up
1:05:48
having that possibility of governing because of this kind of situation in traditional politics.
1:05:55
So let' s see to it that we get out of this political game
1:06:00
that looks like we' re now caught up in. I don' t
1:06:02
know maybe Santa week does good for politicians they can relax and get some rest
1:06:09
and, maybe they come back with another look after that week. I think
1:06:15
it will be little jump for these, because the hatred you have in this
1:06:21
Cainite culture, cursed, that from political navigating to death. But they can
1:06:28
' t stand each other. It is not good, it is no longer
1:06:31
the bride of the groom, of the President of the Community of Madrid,
1:06:35
who, after all, is wrong And this has to be set guidelines for
1:06:38
it. But I don' t know her, that' s not her
1:06:45
private life, she' s a boyfriend, she' s a scoundrel,
1:06:49
she' s not even her husband, she doesn' t even mean that
1:06:55
and then and Begoña Gomez' s wife with the trapicheo east of there in
1:07:00
Europe and all this Goldo subject and all the sequences and inventions that there are
1:07:02
also about it. And I know what he' s going to see if
1:07:05
he gets something out of us Daniel and tells us that if we' re
1:07:12
a little Martian, that we' re infiltrated here, that we want to
1:07:19
subvert order, institutional or constitutional order, when they' re doing it,
1:07:27
as they say, it' s not just getting upset if they' re.
1:07:30
There are twelve powerful reasons that is a constitutional alteration. It' s
1:07:36
like some kind of constitutional modification. Covert up the theme of famous Amnesty.
1:07:44
No, but well we' ll see all this is still going to give
1:07:46
a lot of matraca. I don' t look forward to it. For
1:07:49
whatever it is, Sanchez' s legislature is doomed, very intoxicated. He
1:07:56
' s a character. He is a rasputio Spanish investment. He is a
1:08:02
sorcerer of politics and his dialectics is fallacious and has a skill that others do
1:08:09
not have the staging and this is keeping him. But this has an expiry
1:08:12
point. If it isn' t at the end of this year' s
1:08:17
peak, before next summer, we' re running elections again, that'
1:08:23
s for sure, yes, it could be that the legislature will be shortened.
1:08:25
We already mentioned it when it started, that it started in a very
1:08:30
stormy way, obviously, because of this pact with Junes for Amnesty. Once
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this is approved already, Juns is saying that you won' t try one
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doesn' t want to negotiate budgets for now, so let' s see
1:08:45
what scenario we find right after the autonomic elections that are going to have a
1:08:48
weight. It' s also what has to happen later, but let'
1:08:54
s not rule it out at all if there is a call for early elections,
1:09:00
even if there is actually a censor. These are scenarios that don'
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t seem very likely right now, but they are certainly not disposable at all,
1:09:08
seeing the configuration in Congress and the weakness the government is having. For
1:09:12
certain things. Obviously, this corruption of Koldos has touched them a little bit,
1:09:17
it has left them a little touched, but it seems that they have
1:09:21
contained it more or less for the moment. But we don' t know.
1:09:27
We know that because if what really came out of there or what'
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s going to come out of there can more directly affect other government positions.
1:09:39
I think that might lead them to succumb. It is clear that at the
1:09:45
level of Spain, corruption issues have usually been an important reason for political change.
1:09:53
It is one of the issues that we say that in these two decades
1:09:57
more governments have suffered and have had to leave office. Of course this is
1:10:03
not why it has normally been the changes of government people, I think it
1:10:08
is general is the People' s Party, the People' s Party with
1:10:13
the Urter case, which was corruption, barbarous corruption, too, that is,
1:10:16
it seems to alternate, but on this occasion, of course, on
1:10:19
this occasion it is not. Yeah, yeah, let' s see,
1:10:23
let' s see what it really ends up being there. Of all that,
1:10:30
the other side will say that what we still say saves the current government.
1:10:33
I think it is the economic situation and we also commented on it just
1:10:38
before the previous elections, that if we are in a situation where the economy
1:10:43
really is not as bad as it could have been. And it really is.
1:10:46
Most of the economic forecasts at Spain' s level are now positive for
1:10:49
growth, growth that is more in line with what the Government expected and most
1:10:54
of the feelings, as it goes a bit along that line. If they
1:10:59
are, then that may be the Lifesaver who still grabs it. If you
1:11:05
don' t get a poof out of these from another one I don'
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t know what can happen also sometimes the fact that who' s coming later.
1:11:15
Not that too, obviously, is what mobilized a lot and that I
1:11:19
am. I think pretty well the weight coming from the wolf, that what
1:11:23
comes from the logo and even it worked for him. We don' t
1:11:26
know how many times it' s going to work, but well, it
1:11:29
' s clear there' s a lot of rejection, especially of a government
1:11:33
in which box is part at the national level. That' s still it.
1:11:35
Let' s say, I think a general taboo at national level,
1:11:41
at least but let' s see then, as the Poemites say, that
1:11:45
the wolf is coming, that they are the other wolves that I have already
1:11:46
seen the disaster, that then, yes, but no. That naturalizes him
1:11:49
and the others, the wolves, are the others, not that they don
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' t. Okay. Anyway, this would already give a lot of it,
1:11:58
Daniel, we' ve had it already to conclude, the feredea.
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He' s made his annual Assembly. Very interesting report. Good for the
1:12:06
whole presentation of your annual management. It has been magnificent and a relief in
1:12:12
the Presidency. You have had a magnificent presidency. Manuel I don' t
1:12:20
remember you being a personal friend here from Cataria, Manuel Rodríguez, from Manuel
1:12:26
Mane Rodríguez, exactly. He' s already got two legislatures and he'
1:12:31
s handed in. Esteban Muñoz has been elected, who is his name,
1:12:35
excellent, was the current Vice President and the truth is, for the management
1:12:42
of ferede and then he follows in office and I think he is increasingly more
1:12:46
affirmed and well and resolutive to Carolina Bueno as a woman who is doing her
1:12:53
job very well. And the House was very good, very positive, very
1:12:59
respectful, very clear. Presentations on accountability, accountability and, say, summaries
1:13:06
by the Presidency, the General Secretariat, etc were also presented. And then,
1:13:16
on the part of Diaconía España, the investment of the evangelical social work
1:13:21
Bueno already notice almost twenty million of the series that have been invested in direct
1:13:27
indirect humanitarian aid. There are many more also and about ten million people directly
1:13:34
benefited through the evangelical churches of Spain from all kinds of humanitarian aid programs,
1:13:41
not just embezzlement aid for delivering food and clothing, not, no, no,
1:13:45
many programs. There are organizations like good, the Diaconía España, which
1:13:51
programs very good, but also, of course, solidarity initiatives, youth and
1:13:57
lifed Remar, which was one of the most remarkable of its contribution solidarity and
1:14:01
such and good betel and challenge and so many others that do a sensational job
1:14:08
that the public authorities are not able to do. So it means that we
1:14:15
have to value what is done, that we have been very silent, we
1:14:18
have not put value what our truth is true, it is true, yes,
1:14:23
yes, no good. The truth is that good news in this sense,
1:14:27
in the sphere or evangelical of the Federation and the work that is being
1:14:33
done at institutional level and also, as you rightly said, at the level
1:14:40
of each denomination, of each church, of social action in evangelicals let us
1:14:47
say that they are few in Spain, having a remarkable action, perhaps not
1:14:54
too visible in that sense, but remarkable and above all, a presence in
1:14:59
neighborhoods, families with needs, groups that are often neglected, as you said
1:15:03
well. Now to highlight, of course, the work that has been done
1:15:08
historically in the field of drug addiction, addictions, the work is doing in
1:15:12
the field of trafficking, for example, increasingly recognized by the Government, the
1:15:15
number of evangelical entities that are fighting against trafficking and helping women to get out
1:15:18
of trafficking and good and, of course, the great spiritual assistance that is
1:15:25
done through evangelical churches that perhaps people, this does not give it so much
1:15:29
importance, but this is fundamental, that is, families that are being transformed
1:15:32
by the power of God is that they actually generate a better society. And
1:15:47
basically this is the gospel. It' s not just that we transform structures
1:15:54
or transform things from outside to inside, but inside to outside. What God
1:15:58
does in us from there, everything else is born, all the good we
1:16:01
can do to what surrounds us and the good for our cities, our towns
1:16:05
and our country. And that' s why I really think it' s
1:16:11
important. It is not what you said now, the social work that is
1:16:14
being done and also, of course, at the administrative level, the work
1:16:16
of ferrerere and the evangelical Councils, which is also producing good results and hopefully
1:16:24
we can continue along that line If people knew that, it is all the
1:16:29
public powers, because they think that this thing of clear religion is misinterpreted by
1:16:31
the background we have of organized religion, but that it is not religion,
1:16:39
it is relationship with God, the Gospel of Jesus, it is power of
1:16:45
God for salvation and integral transformation of the person, for all or all that
1:16:50
woman who believes in Jesus with all her heart. And this in my experience
1:16:56
is your experience and hundreds of thousands in this country, hundreds of thousands without
1:17:01
exaggerating that we confess this as a contribution to the change of worldviews of good
1:17:13
practices, in the citizen relationship, in social integration, in the transformation of
1:17:18
addicts of all classes who only by the power of the Gospel change, not
1:17:25
by a power only of psychiatric application, which is a help, is a
1:17:29
crutch, but by the power of Jesus. All this is the wonderful capital
1:17:33
that God gives through the evangelical communities, of more than five zero evangelical communities
1:17:39
that exist throughout the Spanish state and ferede represents it very worthyly, well,
1:17:44
friends and here it is nothing to simply add that they are digital. We
1:17:53
will be reporting on this in the coming hours, coming days, also on
1:17:57
these issues that are sometimes a little more technical or more internal, but also,
1:18:01
of course, that are of interest to many readers. I believe yes,
1:18:08
there I was seeing Peter as well and so many others, the Director
1:18:12
General of Protestant Aeropago, and I have to underline the cordiality and the very
1:18:18
atmosphere among all the leadership of all sectors, the harmony and very notorious.
1:18:24
I celebrate her and sincere truth, I saw her and this speaks of a
1:18:30
good momentum of the evangelical people in Spain among themselves. Therefore, we have
1:18:35
to give this projection to the citizens and politicians who are giving this regrettable spectacle
1:18:42
that we all regret. Daniel, thank you, friend, thank you,
1:18:47
thanks to you, Julio, you have a good day and I also greet
1:18:53
the whole audience forever. Bye, Chao, thank you, I doubt until
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leave you dressed in Gloria, surrounded naked that I will see you. I
1:21:38
know I' m going to see Look, we' re going to re
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- king I' m here. I am the one who will see you
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to see that thanks king have you I am the you my life. My
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watery great vega awaits king and we are my brother I carried you while I
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singing sando healthy the train of life, an exciting journey along the routes of
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gentlemen, we' re on the train of life. It' s an
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unstoppable train like life itself, that living parable. Look here, you'
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ve got the tome. It is a production of editorial clie together with editorial
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life, a great production, taking as text the basis the Queen Valera to
1:26:13
talk about what, since of the Bible of patristic study of the first six
1:26:17
centuries, from one to the sixth, the wisdom of ancient Christianity, that
1:26:24
way much more than the current one. There were also many controversies and energies.
1:26:28
I do as well, but there were also men from the origins from
1:26:34
Policarpo, Papias, Hermas and so many other very illustrious chattullian. The finalist
1:26:43
is, not to say, Augustine and Pona, of which many references appear
1:26:47
in this Bible of patristics, wisdom, of Christianity in the first six centuries.
1:26:53
They make the comments, then it will come from so many others.
1:26:56
It is not very important beyond the Bible which is the Bible I understand and
1:27:02
believe it is the living word of God. After so many avatars we have
1:27:08
here a collection miraculously in our hands, as are the sixty- six biblical
1:27:13
books of the old and new Testament. But the comments of this monumental work
1:27:20
and we will talk to you about main features at a time and one of
1:27:27
the editors, also reviewers and also those who have worked and contributed to the
1:27:32
editing and commentaries of this Bible. Don Jesús Zamora from the United States,
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good morning there, good afternoon here, Jesus, good morning, good morning,
1:27:45
how are you? From where we speak, what part of the United
1:27:50
States, we speak, from Maryland, Mary Laudry, near the city of
1:27:56
Baltimore. Yeah, all right, that' s where we meet on the
1:27:59
coast. From here on the good days, they' re not early anymore.
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Now we are, I think, five hours apart from Spain. Yeah,
1:28:04
well, good for now and also the schedule. Yes, very well,
1:28:09
very well, how about the family, well, all right, all
1:28:14
right, quiet, quiet around here, Jesus, if I let you dress
1:28:20
up your performance there today, what is it in America? Currently I am
1:28:29
collaborating with the seminary is Inst and is Other Baucto Historical Seminary and giving the
1:28:33
history classes of the Church and I am also dedicating teaching at a pambish university
1:28:43
Atlanti University, also with the same subjects, with Church history and humanities.
1:28:49
What' s interesting with them? What' s interesting? I congratulate you
1:28:54
on the truth. These are subjects that I' m passionate about, so
1:28:57
it' s always me I' ve been until not long ago a media
1:29:04
professor in some of our country' s faculties. But I like patristics,
1:29:10
the history of the Church. I am passionate about their controversies and their successes
1:29:15
and failures. No, you know that pretty well. I like it,
1:29:23
I really like to say that I love it, that it' s my
1:29:26
passion. History is my passion and specifically the history of the Church, the
1:29:29
history of Antiquity, are my passions. I wonder sometimes we go on to
1:29:33
approach a little bit of the subject of the Bible with the patristics for the
1:29:40
first six centuries, which is the first, the first release of editorial click
1:29:43
life. I wonder if people knew that the history of the good world precedes
1:29:47
a hundred million years. Okay. I think it' s an exaggeration,
1:29:54
but since it' s been known, since the origins of the most ancient
1:30:00
cultures, a lot really and clearly has happened. Conquerors, war was the
1:30:04
culture of war. One country imposed itself on another. So, when you
1:30:08
read the old will, you have to contextualize yourself. It was the culture
1:30:13
of one country over the other, not prevailing. But what in the twenty
1:30:17
centuries, already twenty- one centuries of Christianity, with all its historical changes,
1:30:26
is the true and essence of the history of mankind. I don'
1:30:30
t know what you think. Yes, at least, it is the essence
1:30:33
of the history of the West, the history of the West so cannot be
1:30:38
understood without Christianity. That' s literally the first thing I learned when I
1:30:42
entered college. I was there, in Alcalá' s novelity, in my
1:30:45
first class of history. I remember that the professor, the Greek history professor
1:30:53
of classical history, mentioned that to us and that was engraved on my head.
1:30:58
And the truth is that throughout the race one realizes that, at least
1:31:01
for the history of the West. Christianity is vital and is the essence,
1:31:06
essence and soul of Western culture, both on the other side of the puddle
1:31:12
where you are, yes, and on this side of the puddle. Yes,
1:31:15
yes, yes, sir, sir, yes, but come on,
1:31:18
the story of the idea is also the church. When I remember, when
1:31:23
I read the Empire of Isartashimov Foundation, I don' t know if you
1:31:30
could read this work of science, fiction, no, but I read it.
1:31:31
I mean, it' s like the history of religion, understand Christianity
1:31:38
in a fictional, unimaginable, futuristic version. No. But it is because
1:31:45
religion has been the one that has led for evil or for good the history
1:31:53
of humanity. Right. Yes, indeed, at least in the case of
1:31:58
Christianity, it has its asis hatos, those mistakes, this I think are
1:32:02
popular and are known. And we can see that, because throughout ancient,
1:32:06
medieval, modern and contemporary history, I do not know where Christianity, because
1:32:12
it has had things in which it has led well to society, has led
1:32:16
well to the world and where we have also made mistakes. Yes, because,
1:32:21
frankly, Christianity does not escape from having committed bad budgets towards itself.
1:32:29
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, you have to do self- criticism
1:32:31
on that. Well, especially when religion has become a bulwark that has justified
1:32:34
other historical appeals or invasions or impositions or war for war. To be clear,
1:32:44
also in the clashes of the holy places of Islam against the splendour of
1:32:49
Islamic culture. No, and also, I mean, we have to make
1:32:55
proper readings of history, also that some are unfortunate and others have been inevitable.
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Indeed, as you mentioned before, we must be self- critical because
1:33:04
sometimes we are clear only in the positive aspects, but we also forget that
1:33:10
we have made mistakes and mistakes from which we learn, learn and are still
1:33:16
in learning. We can improve them so we don' t commit it again.
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I don' t know. I have here my technical director who I
1:33:24
don' t know if we have Alfonso around here isn' t not there,
1:33:28
I think, I don' t know what there was some technical problem,
1:33:30
although he' s in Spain. What happens is that Alfonso is a
1:33:32
retired, jubilant and then a good friend, a good friend. We were
1:33:39
talking this week and I say we' re going to work with Jesus.
1:33:44
But if there' s you, some other pointer who' s also done
1:33:47
some collaboration. This work, how you would describe it, this work and
1:33:55
Bible of patristic study from the first century to the sixth, this wisdom of
1:34:00
ancient Christianity. What a definition you' d give him. I' d
1:34:06
choose him. I think two words, two words. First, basically unique
1:34:13
in its genre, in the sphere of Spanish evangelism and, on the other
1:34:18
hand, of a profound work, unique in its hero genre, in the
1:34:25
sense that there are no other publishing houses that have worked at least in Spanish,
1:34:33
specifically with the patristic authors. There are other Bibles that also have comments
1:34:41
to the church’ s peers, but they have usually been worked from English
1:34:44
to Spanish, but here and not in the evangelical realm, but in the
1:34:50
eagelic realm, this is the only one. Literally for the moment. We
1:34:56
don' t know this the future. No. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah?
1:34:57
Yeah? Yeah? Yes, I agree. And then, in the
1:35:00
area of depth, not only for the comments, but also for the articles
1:35:03
that have been placed in this Bible so that the people who acquire not only
1:35:09
benefit from the comments of the parents, but also from the articles that contextualize
1:35:13
those comments. So it' s unique in that respect. It' s
1:35:21
unique because it' s unique and it' s deep, not because there
1:35:26
are other Bibles and here you really don' t want to do so much
1:35:32
propaganda and sell it because it' s part of the House of Clier,
1:35:33
part of the editorial. No. But in that respect, because I would
1:35:35
say that it is unique and deep, then it is significant. Yes,
1:35:40
it' s true, yes, yes, I can honestly be more neustral
1:35:45
though I' m a friend of the Clie House, but friends, as
1:35:50
I have so many others. But from my perspective, it' s a
1:35:56
magna play. Sincerely more than twelve zero notes of study, from those of
1:36:00
the comments of the Church' s parents up to the sixth century, to
1:36:06
special articles of the most relevant subjects on the ancient Christian Church that one must
1:36:12
know when one ends up in the deeds of the apostles and has and has
1:36:16
no more sequences. Well, there' s what it is, it'
1:36:19
s a wonder, it' s a blessing, but we' re too
1:36:23
far from it. So, then, when we start in the second century,
1:36:27
in the good century, end of the first century, John with his
1:36:30
apocalypse, but then in the second century, with all the controversies heresies and
1:36:35
some climsy successes and successes and progress and returns. But when the third century,
1:36:41
I steal fourth, fifth century and the doumatic manifestation of the Roman Catholic
1:36:45
Apostolic Church and others and other derivations, then biographies of church fathers. It
1:36:53
contains this book, this Bible commented with notes from parents of the Church glossary
1:36:59
of important ancient believing terms. Very interesting these words of Jesus in Red,
1:37:04
also to highlight them and classify the notes into seven types, not later prophetic,
1:37:12
contextual, doctrinal, devotional, philological, exegetical, theological, I mean,
1:37:18
this is sud, this has been. You' ve worked well on
1:37:23
this. Uh, yeah, actually, I know a lot of mouthfuls from
1:37:26
behind, a lot of andwich, not a lot of sandwich. Well,
1:37:32
in Spain you know it' s a snack, that here are the sandwiches
1:37:36
you' ll miss. I' m sure he missed the truth yesterday that
1:37:39
you didn' t make carpanta sandwiches. Yeah, hey, but talking about
1:37:47
these things because, for example, I' m a patristic aficionado. Telling
1:37:51
me opened up when I read the first stories of the Church in the seventies
1:37:58
and so few. I became seventy- two. I was eighteen years old
1:38:02
and now, if you add up, people will go, because this guy
1:38:06
has good, because what technical is the same. The fact is that really
1:38:11
and when I started because I joined the great Paria culture very late, I
1:38:15
didn' t know anything. I learned to read the New Testament at all
1:38:17
well, but then I joined the culture, evidently, also several lines and
1:38:23
also academically. And then, when I began to read to the Church'
1:38:29
s parents, among other things, I had read many secular things. But
1:38:32
when I began to read the history of the Church in several of several authors
1:38:36
and the patristic, it gave me a light on the history of Christianity,
1:38:43
which contributed to my personal enrichment, but in a very significant way. And
1:38:47
I say this because of this publication and after people who can take advantage of
1:38:55
the patrology, the patristics, which are the parents of the Church. That
1:38:59
means for the thristics, the followers of the apostles and disciples, the disciples
1:39:03
of the apostles and others and others. You understand then that we have arrived
1:39:10
until today, Then you agree with me that knowing the history of the Church
1:39:16
opens the eyes of the mind, of the soul and sometimes of the spirit
1:39:23
also not effectively, to being known above all the history of the ancient Church
1:39:29
is something important to understand our own identity as evangelicals and as Protestants, for
1:39:35
example, this was understood by the reformers, the most gisterial reformers that for
1:39:42
them the good use to take into account the pairs of the Church, to
1:39:45
take into account the ancient created ones, was something fundamental. So many,
1:39:47
so even, for example, the Spanish reformers, like Juan Díaz or as
1:39:54
if full of courage, they make a use of the Church' s parents,
1:39:58
make a use of the ancient creeds, make a use of the ancient
1:40:01
councils. So, basically, following that example, we also have to take
1:40:06
into account, for what the Church' s parents have said. No And
1:40:11
in that respect, it is essential to know, to know what they have
1:40:16
said, to know what they have said. And for that this Bible can
1:40:21
help us a lot can help us a lot so I can' t agree
1:40:25
badly with you, well, there are many notes from many illustrious, of
1:40:31
course they are intuous earlier Augustin of Hippo. There are many notes of it
1:40:34
origins of Alexandria, which were authentic intellectuals, besides being men of faith but
1:40:41
powerful, true, not effectively towards those here, in this Bible, for
1:40:47
not only have been compiled the texts of fathers of the Church, as you
1:40:51
have mentioned, as St Augustine, as Irenaeus of Leon, as that Clement
1:40:57
of Alexandria or Clement of Rome, but I also have of several authors not
1:41:01
considered parents of the Church, but significant Christian authors to understand Christian theology,
1:41:09
especially lamatics, dogmatic doctrine, either as Christology, Trinity dogma, as,
1:41:16
for example, here mentions authors as Origen of Alexandria. Origen of Alexandria is
1:41:23
not considered a father of the Church, but a Christian author of Antiquity.
1:41:26
Yes, despite not having that title of Father of the Church, we have
1:41:30
to know what I have said, because his theology has been significant for the
1:41:33
Council of Nicaea, for example. And here are notes about what Origen of
1:41:38
Jandria said. Also then this Bible does not have notes from the Church'
1:41:45
s parents, but also notes from different Christian authors significant to Christian dogma.
1:41:49
And it also has references to heterodox authors, for example, to know what
1:41:58
heterodoxes have said about different topics and to know how the church' s parents
1:42:02
responded to those heterodox authors. Yes, yes, for example, of course
1:42:11
origins. He was an apologist, an advocate of faith with an intellectual scope
1:42:18
for sophisms, especially philosophical ones, that philosophy and theology have been very interrelated,
1:42:26
but they were illustrious. Augustine de pon was a teacher of philosophical rhetoric
1:42:32
and in fact, Augustine' s theology is permeated in some way in theology,
1:42:39
is permeated by his deterministic conception of life, truth and so not yes.
1:42:44
No. Indeed, with the case of St Augustine, we can already
1:42:47
see the influence of neo- platonic philosophy. Yes in him in many aspects
1:42:54
of his theology, which has also shaped medieval Christian theology, not by St
1:43:00
Augustine' s, but also origins, as he mentioned earlier. St Augustine
1:43:02
' s. Despite origins, as I mentioned before, it does not have
1:43:06
this traditional label as a church father. His Christology will be fundamental to understanding
1:43:12
Christian orthodoxy, because it will have an impact on authors like Tanasio of Alexandria,
1:43:17
who will be significant for the Council of Nicaea. So we can learn
1:43:24
from both orthodox authors. It was from authors who have no label. Athanasius
1:43:30
was the restorer of the rian controversy in some way definitely at the Council of
1:43:35
Nicaea and that Spain, for example, for more than a hundred years.
1:43:41
It was arian Christianity in the Visigoth was also Arrian over all, saying to
1:43:47
Christ as the god made man, not the common day of méns. Spain
1:43:54
still suffered the pitfalls of Arianism, as mentioned for about a hundred years.
1:44:00
No, but the last places where Arganism still survived. Yes, yes,
1:44:06
yes, yes, curiously, and then speaking of as origins, but there
1:44:11
is also the so- called Justin Martyr, another intellectual, another name of
1:44:17
a tremendous level. But yes, there are apologists men and there are parents
1:44:23
too, of course it was seen from already Aria Tertulliano and Augustin Nipon.
1:44:27
There are so many others who were very illustrious. No. And the list
1:44:30
is long? Is it long? Don' t you? Is the list
1:44:32
huge? Is the list huge? And here, in this Bible, for
1:44:35
what has been done is to try to repilate most of their remaining comments.
1:44:42
Hundreds and thousands of comments have been left out, because what parents comment about
1:44:45
Christian authors, what they comment about the Bible, about the old and the
1:44:50
new Testaments, is immense, it is immense. So you' ve had
1:44:56
to literally be so selective, because the comment list is huge. Hear for
1:45:02
sure that for me I congratulate all the team that you have done this work,
1:45:09
from this Bible that I understand will continue with the next centuries of the
1:45:15
seven surely to the probably until the dawn of the Protestant reformation of the modern
1:45:18
age. But here is the Bible of patristic study centuries from one to the
1:45:27
sixth, the wisdom of ancient Christianity, one of its cole those who have
1:45:32
collegiate it together with so many others. Don Jesús Zamora, who we are
1:45:36
also interviewing our friend Alfonso wardrobe who I believe has had an imponderable and has
1:45:42
not been able to be today last minute. But well, thank God,
1:45:45
we were already counting on you in principle, but talking to this week about
1:45:49
or because Alfonso and I talked about almost everyone at a particular level. But
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I say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. But thank you, Jesus,
1:46:04
because it illustrates us a lot and I think that with this we want
1:46:10
to recommend to our audience from the train of life this program that already turns
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thirty- two years old a magaxin of news, interviews, curiosities that have
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to put in value what we do in the Protestant world and among them,
1:46:26
this magisterial publication of the Bible, of patristic study of the first centuries Editorial
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Clie fundamentally, also in collaboration with Editorial Vida. But I have loved,
1:46:34
in addition to everything I have said, the notes of prophetic, contextual,
1:46:41
doctrinal, emotional, philological, exegetical and theological. That gives him, makes
1:46:45
him more attractive. Also in addition to the quotes from parents about comments from
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all the books of the Bible, there are comments and this, this is
1:46:56
very interesting. Some are controversial, others are very wise and others are that
1:47:02
you don' t just assimilate them either not in the parts of the Churches
1:47:08
is a sighted field. We can meet everything there, yeah, yeah,
1:47:10
yeah. We' re gonna find everything between them, yeah, yeah.
1:47:13
Listen how good, because I thank you very much and also your contribution to
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this great work in the Bible of patristic study, that we would continue to
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talk about it and nothing when you come to Spain. Again, I understand
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you were here living for a few years. Yes, I spent 15 years
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and my doctorate and then I left here, because that' s where I
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came out, where I got work. So, so I had to or
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we had to get out good. When you come to Spain in Barcelona we
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expect a good Catalan meal and a pleasure. Thank you, Jesus, at
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this time of the morning from Maryland, in the United States, and this
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Likewise even always, jesus thank you, Chao, always goodbye the train of
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life I have searched and you will find me, I have lost and you
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save me when I lack strength, you raise me a new day is about
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to start every manganna next to you because your saw is edited and you don
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' t tell me where it is worth to follow oh keep string that of
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delicacy. If I' ve searched and you find me, I' ve
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lost myself and you save me when I lack strength, you lift me up.
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Egg day is by your thoughts every morning and to the laotrares my cor
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that with my being rigory yen also whither you go follow, oh to the
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mampar door that see of the viece inciere every morning I have jumped you look
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unforgettable journey to train rhythm. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in direct contact
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with Dr Modesto Roca in his medical office and we want to talk to him
1:54:31
today a little bit about the problems and diseases of the digestive system. And
1:54:38
he' s going to tell us a little bit about signs that indicate problems
1:54:41
in the digestive system this morning and what are the most common pathologies and well,
1:54:47
at least have some guidelines to be alert to all of this. Here
1:54:53
we go Let' s talk to the rock otor, a rock doctor.
1:55:00
He' s wanted, my friend Hi, my dear Julio. Well,
1:55:02
we' re talking about an issue today that' s so central. Carlos
1:55:08
has spoken. Vital organs are the heart, the brain, but the liver,
1:55:15
the kidneys. But of course, the digestive system is the boiler,
1:55:21
not the boiler of Pedro Botero, but yes, but yes, the human
1:55:26
boiler that pure meals and that, well, at the moment there is some
1:55:30
failure, there are countless disorders, there can be in the digestive system,
1:55:38
truth, yes, it is true. In fact, the digestive system is
1:55:43
going to say, to prepare through a physical and chemical process, such as
1:55:48
chewing in the physical lake, the return and then also, because everything that
1:55:54
has to do with gastric games with chlorhydic acid that we have in the stomach,
1:55:59
that is, it will fragment food in its minimal expressions, in amino
1:56:04
acids, proteins, in elements of which are simple lucid and simple gauze through
1:56:14
a more complex process. And all this is going to happen through the torrent,
1:56:23
say, circulatory to the liver. The liver is going to act as
1:56:26
a filter there and a whole complex process is going to begin so that the
1:56:30
cells get the elements they need, their repair, their nuscription, so that
1:56:38
they can get that energy. On the one hand, opiation with oxygen,
1:56:42
which is going to circulate also from the lungs and transported by hemoglobin to the
1:56:48
cells and then those cells that are going to have some debris, which are
1:56:54
going to lead to that same circulatory torrent and the kidneys are going to be
1:57:00
the other outlet filter where they are going to eliminate, because all those products
1:57:04
of spite, in part the cellular spirits of cellular combustion are going to expel
1:57:12
us through the urine in the form of urea and in part it can treat
1:57:17
the same lungs that we are going to expel the carbon dioxide that flows from
1:57:21
the cells. That is to say, everything is a balance dear jurio so
1:57:26
extraordinary that, when I hear that that was by chance and will have counted
1:57:29
in this distance, yes, yes, yes, extraordinarily complex truth, there
1:57:34
is a todiquese mind that orders in article each of the details of the depth
1:57:43
that we cannot reach is true, most certain Dr Roca, but we usually
1:57:49
do well digestion, because the process of digestion is more or less in synthesis,
1:57:55
as you have explained, but accustomed to respect digestion, that what is
1:58:01
reckless to not make good digestion. The truth is that we commit many imprudences
1:58:11
and eat inappropriately, make excesses, p or cadences faith This we see also
1:58:17
in society, not to respect a regular user, not to combine with a
1:58:25
certain degree of activity, with which that also is a metabolic problem that can
1:58:30
generate, fact, generate pathologies such as hypertension, like diabetes, like the
1:58:33
islipian ones, and then, then, knowing, choosing what we should eat
1:58:41
and assuming that the pision has no problem, since a balanced diet and if
1:58:45
it has a problem, an adequate diet, because to its problems, its
1:58:49
diabeces, to its hypertension or to the problem that the body, because it
1:58:54
has developed, because there is also a process of aging and while it is
1:59:00
in this world, we are going to grow old later no longer, but
1:59:05
here yes and the body, therefore, it will respond to it. I
1:59:09
always ask when I go to a patient who has a problem of this kind
1:59:14
and who is laughing at the doctor, I always ask him if he has
1:59:18
a car and he tells me the times that so, and I tell him
1:59:23
if he does the checks and changes his faith and says yes. Yeah.
1:59:24
Of course, the conclusion is that many take better care of their car is
1:59:29
their body, because their body has no control, unfortunately, and they only
1:59:32
go to the doctor, Unfortunately, many times, when the pathology has already
1:59:38
evolved and the doctors often little we can make clear, of course, very
1:59:44
regrettable. Sure. It is a perfect comparison of signs that indicate that we
1:59:50
have a problem in the digestive system. To some of them which could be
1:59:55
good. There' s a crowd. A person can start to have if
2:00:00
we start from the upper part, because already problems of declusion or problems of
2:00:08
heartburn, or the person can increase an action of the stomach and have,
2:00:14
because already a burp or having what doctors call a dispe a Hisppsia would be
2:00:18
an unspecific disorder of digestion, where the patient is not well, has heavy
2:00:27
digestions. Sometimes even if you miss or feel your stomach, your intestine,
2:00:32
because you may have a certain degree of discomfort and even pain. That would
2:00:42
be frequent symptoms and lottery that does not always correspond the organic pathology to see
2:00:47
is not that there is always a cancer, there is always a search,
2:00:51
there is always a problem of these. Sometimes this is associated with habits,
2:00:55
anxiety, and pictures of anxiety. Many patients somatize through the stomach and also
2:01:03
at other times that inadequate intakes, to inadequate diets. There are people who
2:01:12
give food and do not know it and do not realize it. People who
2:01:15
intorate milk, people who into give it true i, the egg is something
2:01:20
that I also see with relative frequency and one has to analyze, explore,
2:01:27
study, take information from the patient' s habits and come to conclusions that
2:01:33
sometimes come to simply by interrogating the patient, that these times we need complementary
2:01:38
tests, especially today, that we have these extraordinarily reliable and magnificent means such
2:01:44
as the seats, the resonances, the ultrasounds, etc, because making sure
2:01:50
that the patient does not have a cancer, that that that would be one
2:01:59
they are bigger we are going to say and that, unfortunately, because we
2:02:02
see it often, gastritis is one of the things frequent in many people.
2:02:09
True, that could be the preamble to a possible ulcer or irritation or something.
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Right, yes, dyspepsia, which is a term I already say nonspecific.
2:02:20
The patient may have gastric mucosal avoidance, astrisis, may have meteorism,
2:02:26
abdominal gas, Tulencia, burps, etcetera. And then, the set of
2:02:35
these symptoms sometimes very very specific, because you will see that most of the
2:02:40
time the cysts, do not present as isolated symptom, but also of a
2:02:45
more complex package. But yes, the vitation of the gatric mucosa is an
2:02:54
underlying cause of these distancings or disorders of the nervous system as well, without
2:03:00
it becoming a crisis, which would be an alteration of peristantism. There are
2:03:08
people who have anti- Iperistaltic movements, that is, inverted and then,
2:03:13
they have a tendency to rebugitation, they have a tendency to volito, to
2:03:20
stomach eyebrows, to difficult laslications. They are quite, quite complex pictures,
2:03:30
of course, among other things, for different reasons to make it clear that
2:03:33
it can be a thing of a more complex question than what I am saying
2:03:38
now. But one of the issues, in addition to the drugs that,
2:03:44
according to pathology, have to be applied in one way or another, one
2:03:48
of the issues that cause many of the diseases of the digestive system I deduce,
2:03:56
which are due to a bad diet, from ten of eating badly.
2:04:02
Right. Yeah, let' s see, here' s not a trend.
2:04:06
There are many tendencies, some very healthy and others, unfortunately, pathological
2:04:15
to see, including some that are apparently healthy. In the end it turns
2:04:19
out that they are not like people who, therefore, undergo a written diet
2:04:25
of vegetarian type and good in adults. The adult is very free because he
2:04:30
is an adult and can do whatever he wants, even if it is to
2:04:34
play with his health. But it is very regrettable and this is seen by
2:04:39
doctors when it is the child luido by the adult and by taxes imposing the
2:04:45
rule on the adult, since the child is subjected to this type of diet
2:04:48
for time and then the child will have deficiencies, obvious deficiencies, deficiencies of
2:04:54
tabinas, cadences of certain elements that are not found in the plant kingdom.
2:05:00
You have to resort to raigans, eggs, dairy or fish or poultry meat,
2:05:04
because our body is going to need this, so there are other kinds
2:05:09
of alterations. People who eat this balancedly. For example, they eat many
2:05:18
foods, fried, many carbon yarns, scrambled potatoes, rites in oil and
2:05:26
sometimes not fried, but refried in this oil. Let' s see if
2:05:30
one day we eat a fritanga, a culture, potatoes for nothing is bad.
2:05:38
The body needs little of everything, but if that becomes a daily habit
2:05:42
and repeatedly, that too is a unbalanced diet. Another group that is barely
2:05:50
talked about, but which is tremendously important, is the elderly. The seniors.
2:05:55
Many patients have deficiency problems in a society like ours. Unfortunately, for
2:06:01
two reasons. One is because they catch manias that some food does not suit
2:06:06
them and they withdraw it and in the end they only eat boiled rice or
2:06:12
lost leg, in case we have seen many times. And the other,
2:06:15
unfortunately, is because of the economic problem, that it is terrible that a
2:06:18
society like ours, because we have a volume of people with problems of basic
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laughter and the ion I can' t think of a more correct term,
2:06:30
that can' t access a healthier or more balanced diet. Check it out.
2:06:38
There are a lot of possibilities or making an excess of meat diet or
2:06:44
an excess of carbon hirate diet, knowing you have to eat a little of
2:06:46
everything and know how to choose the best foods, as one singer said,
2:06:53
the best apples I loved this amount. Of course because this miracle diet thing.
2:07:01
Now I remember since the diotic revolution, Dr. Jekins until the last
2:07:09
one, I don' t remember the one that ate a kind of food
2:07:15
just between them meat and something else, and I don' t remember a
2:07:19
very popular name. Now I don' t remember there' s a lot
2:07:24
of we could do a lot of programs talking about diets, from the troglorite
2:07:30
diet to the pomet diet to the wonderful soup diet. There are a lot
2:07:33
of diets that well, that have a certain logic, some of them,
2:07:40
others not, but I still consider that there are some basic diets that are
2:07:47
not either the diet that has been spread many times, like that you have
2:07:54
to have a great database of carbon quickly absorbed like bread pasta why, because
2:07:59
that is very good for a person who does physical activity. But I'
2:08:03
m not talking about walking and cleaning the house or an office. I am
2:08:07
talking about a person who does an important physical activity, a truck driver,
2:08:15
a transporter or a manual worker, a mason, a person who does a
2:08:20
lot of calorie burning, obviously he will need data on carbon or fast absorption,
2:08:26
bread, potatoes, rice, but a person who makes a semi sedentary
2:08:33
life or in the elderly, who makes a life, unfortunately many times will
2:08:37
totally increase or proficiencia eat these products are put one hundred and twenty kilos.
2:08:43
So, these foods that carry fast- absorbing carbon lice, you have to
2:08:50
limit them and why we' re going to replace them with carbon hydates,
2:08:56
slow- absorbing, so that the boiler is going to keep working, but
2:09:00
without the problems of hyperinsulinemias and everything we' re going to have, it
2:09:03
' s going to lead to diabetes. Nor would a troglorite diet 100%
2:09:09
not that it would be eating vegetables, raw, meat, raw, fish,
2:09:13
raw, almost raw, without just carbon pyrates. No, so there
2:09:20
we are going to see a modified diet based on the Mediterranean diet, perhaps
2:09:28
not exactly the Mediterranean diet, according to what activities. Of course, the
2:09:31
Mediterranean diet was invented when men worked in the countryside and women washed their anus
2:09:37
clothes and carried the water in there. Yeah, but that schedule thanks.
2:09:41
In our country, not all pains or almost no one, so the diet
2:09:46
has to be adjusted to the reality of the video twenty- one. But
2:09:48
that is sensible, yes, it is advisable. I think especially for men.
2:09:56
I don' t know if so much for women in a colonoscopic,
2:10:03
rectal endoscopic review of those parts that have to do a little bit, with
2:10:09
the intestinal tract, with the stomach and even with the rectal part. It
2:10:16
is necessary to leave to explore a little how things are to see, as
2:10:22
long as doctors detect some sign of risk. It is a priority and,
2:10:28
in fact, we do it every week. We ask for this type of
2:10:33
test or fibrogastros, copies or colonists, copies or opaque eneas. Today we
2:10:37
have a lot of opportunities to detect problems. If we detect a member of
2:10:48
a family who has a type of genetic factor cancer, therefore, hereditary at
2:10:52
colon level we suggest how important it is for those patients to become colonoscopic to
2:10:58
see not a chronostopy to everyone. That would be a sambz a barbarity.
2:11:05
But those who have risk factors or symptoms that make us suspect. Now there
2:11:13
is one test that is simple, that is sold in pharmacies, that can
2:11:18
be done by everyone, that is ridiculously expensive, that is to detect blood
2:11:22
hidden in phes is simply a small bottle that goes with a kind of brush,
2:11:28
pricks the patient, covers the small pot, shakes and there will be
2:11:35
a change of color depending on whether or not there is human hemoglobin in those
2:11:41
stools, because also the complex difference between human blood and the blood of animals
2:11:48
only reactive or human hemolobin. That tells us that the digestive tract at some
2:11:56
point is losing some blood. It' s a simple test. We do
2:12:01
it on an outpatient basis. The same patient can do it in pharmacy and
2:12:05
it comes out for a very modest price. What does that tell us?
2:12:09
Well, the digestive tract, the digestive tract, there are no leaks.
2:12:13
If there are no leaks, knowing we could have cancer, but it hasn
2:12:18
' t evolved yet. And that, then, would give us, as
2:12:24
a certain guarantee. It is more I to patients than I know that they
2:12:28
have that risk not to be every year putting the tube in their anus that
2:12:33
is unpleasant, even if the specialists do it at hospital level, consideration of
2:12:39
the patient. For how unpleasant the test is, I tell you look.
2:12:43
We' re going to combine colonoscopy, we' re going to combine it
2:12:48
with occult blood defection. In phes, in such a way, the fucking
2:12:52
blood of need you will be seeing her doing every six months if at some
2:12:56
point it gives you positive running, we do the most complex test and we
2:13:01
even expand the test, but always with this sense of July, because to
2:13:09
see you forty there are so many millions of Spaniards we ruin even decino in
2:13:13
the test. Then yes, but with wisdom the dalarmists. Not everyone who
2:13:18
has a dyspersia, you have to do a colonoscopy, you have to select
2:13:24
and that' s right, when we sense, we see the risk or
2:13:28
we get positive. The clean blood, of course, that was earned,
2:13:33
must be done. Blood can also be for other reasons. For example,
2:13:37
I think not the diverticulums that are that we practically have, I think everyone
2:13:43
in the intestinal tract, but diverticulosis or some sweetness or something that may be
2:13:50
for other reasons also in the blood. True, not always blood, where
2:13:54
your digestive is cancer. God, thank you. It is the fewest times
2:14:00
it is, because that nonsense and I call it the marias, that good,
2:14:05
because you can ask for a niverticulosis, a niberticulitis, an avenite in
2:14:09
the anal tract or s sigmoid and that is the velita or somewhere else,
2:14:18
the digestive tract, but whenever there is blood. If we have the alarm,
2:14:24
no doubt what we do is already directly the test. And there we
2:14:28
do not expect that we prefer to do the test and that the test is
2:14:35
negative or that it helps us there. No, and we can sort of
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find causes like what you were saying, a little ulcerite, a polyp,
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a polyp that is inflamed and bleeding, any diverticulitis, an inflammation of the
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colon wall. And that also gives us the peace of mind that this patient,
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what he has, is not serious. We' re gonna treat him
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and we' re gonna keep an eye on him. Dr Rock, moving
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on, one last thought. So I reminded you suddenly I was thinking of
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faith, many people this of faith, in faith, faith in faith,
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faith in superstitious, faith in God, but in a specific God, what
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is faith and what exactly does faith serve? Faith is a self- suggestion
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or something that makes sense. Well, faith in fact, it' s
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a gift, it' s a gift that God gives us and this faith
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one can place in different things, objects, people, societies. Then let
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us see that there are people who have p or have in things that are
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aberrant and, instead, there is a good faith And good faith is in
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God and what faith is. Well, faith you know it' s the
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hope that we' re going to get something, that something we haven'
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t seen with our eyes yet, but what we' re going to have.
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Then we can go to the bank and ask for a loan. Well,
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if we' re solvents, then they' re gonna give us the
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credit. If we' re not solvents, they' re just going to
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say no. So that' s not it. That' s more like
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hope. I' m hoping that the banker, the bank, this or
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that, because I think I meet some requirements of my own, I have
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solvency, I have a job, etcetera. But this is not the faith
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of which the scripture speaks, the fley of which the scripture speaks is faith
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in a Creator God, and not only in a Creator God, but also
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in a God who not only created the world, created let us say the
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cosmos, but also the human being, but God created the human being.
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Not for the purpose of his death. That wasn' t in God'
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s plans. We studied in depth from the Book of Genesis. You will
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see that death is something contrary to God' s will. It wasn'
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t in God' s mind. Even the mess of Psalms says that God
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put eternity in their hearts. There is a feeling of transcendence that we all
2:17:39
human beings have, it is also set by God. Then faith must be
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a faith in God, not a faith in football, nor in money,
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nor in politics, nor in personal achievements. It is very good that one,
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for one fights to have that personal, but this energy we must receive
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directly from God. And what do we expect from God? Sure, because
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if we have geniuses, well, we think there are. Well, if
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we believe there is, we have to live according to God’ s standard,
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because his standards are the best standards. His law is the best law,
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the only just law, the law of God. The only one who
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knows the Intringulis, the human being is the creator. He knows what our
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needs are. We used to talk about diets and well, you know that
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the Bible, along its pages, speaks of four types of tithes. The
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last, the last type of diet is in the Apostle Paul' s first
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letter to Timothy, in chapter four, in verse four and five it says
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because everything that God believes is good and nothing is to be discarded if it
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is taken with thanksgiving, because by the word of God and by prayer it
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is sanctified, that is, all those stories, those Chinese tales that you
2:19:05
cannot eat. I don' t know what or how good it is to
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see if that is a problem of conscience, because obviously, it is better
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not to eat it, but if not giving thanks to God for prayer all
2:19:22
the sanctified and notice, we are in the field of faith. We believe
2:19:24
in God, we obey God, and God doesn' t know how to
2:19:28
go. God comes to pass to us human beings and that God does for
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us, God for us, is a gift, It is not something that
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we can gain because we are magnificent and do works Pious is God' s
2:19:43
gift. It' s salvation. And what is salvation. So, look,
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go back to the beginning, go back to the point where the relationship
2:19:50
between God and man was interrupted, go back to the origins, re-
2:19:56
establish those bonds between God and his creation, the human being. And this
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is not something that' s going to be interrupted again, but it'
2:20:03
s going to transcend for eternity. For eternity, that is, eternally there
2:20:09
will be that relationship between God and man. When I say man is a
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generic word, I mean man and woman. Of course, the human being
2:20:20
is going to re- establish. Hence comes the word religion of religar,
2:20:24
because it re- establishes the Lord through faith in him and obedience through the
2:20:28
process of conversion in Christ Jesus, by faith in his work, we restore
2:20:35
that relationship that we lost in Genesis when we were expelled in Adam, from
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the Garden of Eden and recovered in Christ, which will again bring us to
2:20:46
new heavens to new earth, and I am feeling that it will not be
2:20:52
long. That is how interesting, because thank you very much, Doctor Roca,
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for this reflection also that is the spiritual part of the human being that
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we also take into account it and there is an urgency in the man and
2:21:13
woman of any time to have an encounter with God before it is too late.
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True, thank you very much, dear friend, Thank you for your
2:21:24
reflections, for your wisdom, for your good advice. And we speak again
2:21:28
shortly I send you a very affectionate hug and by the way thanks be given
2:21:33
to God, because we are his work and he enables us each with the
2:21:37
ombres that he is, according to his grace, he distributes, so it
2:21:43
is not my merit, it is merit of the glory of God and affectionate.
2:21:46
I greet a very strong hug for you and also for our entire audience.
2:21:50
It' s even been for your safety You use the belt. We
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' ve replaced this announcement of nine hundred and seventy- three because not wearing
2:22:16
the seatbelt looks like a thing of the past. Let' s look at
2:22:20
the effects of a collision at 50 kilometers per hour cin belt three, but
2:22:28
it' s not today. One in four dead on the road wasn'
2:22:31
t wearing a seatbelt Put your seatbelt on. Directorate- General for Traffic,
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Ministry of the Interior, Government of Spain. You travel on the train of
2:22:43
life. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the term this traveling train as
2:23:01
life itself, unstoppable the train of life. Well, we' ve had
2:23:09
this very diverse conversation from the other look of the day. Well, one
2:23:15
part coincides with what they say, but some, some fringes are uniquely from
2:23:20
our worldview, particularly from this platform of the train of life with Daniel Ozkan,
2:23:28
director of Digital Protestant. Then, of course, we have had this
2:23:33
interview with Jesus Zamora, from Mérighan in the United States, one of the
2:23:37
editors and reviewers, and also who have continued with the patristic contributions of this
2:23:46
Bible commented on patristics and notes of the Ancient Church, really a genius that
2:23:54
should not be missed we had our friend Alfonso, but an impondelible the now
2:24:00
has prevented him from participating, but it is nothing serious, thank God.
2:24:03
But, therefore, we have had this rich conversation there with Jesus Zamora,
2:24:11
one of the authors and of this contribution of the Church' s parents,
2:24:18
a magnificent conversation and finally to Dr Roca talking to us about intestinal problems,
2:24:26
digestive problems and what inner world, ours, the organic one. Hey,
2:24:31
sometimes we have to take care of ourselves so much. But this machinery,
2:24:37
though imperfect, definitely defecable because of the sin that has taken our being has
2:24:45
disturbed our soul, our body and our spirit. The psychosoma, pneuma,
2:24:52
psychosomatic, as my friend Juan José Churrorin, who is already in heaven,
2:24:56
would say. But we really need to take care of our bodies. But
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human machinery is perfect. Who designed it, who chance the demiurge of Venus,
2:25:13
not Jesus, who was together with the Father and with the Holy Spirit,
2:25:18
generating all wonderful things. We talked about these things, because it was
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great. I remind you that you can write to me for any matter of
2:25:28
your interest. Julio Pérez arroba Onda Paz without h is not the wave of
2:25:33
the bike. Julio Pérez arroba Onda Paz FM. With frequency modulated Julio Pérez
2:25:39
Arroba Onda Paz FM and I was commented on any proposed comment. If you
2:25:46
want to criticize him, so will Carlos, but have some mercy and some
2:25:52
detail in question. I want to remind you that we are organizing from FIBE
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the Bethany Churches of Spain and FIDE the Churches of God. We are the
2:26:05
promoters of this great congress event and now, because we are already launching all
2:26:11
the artillery. After very much respect and celebration of the great event that took
2:26:15
place at Glotte in Cordoba last week, it was fantastic to celebrate very much
2:26:20
the blessing that it has been for God' s people, for women.
2:26:24
And now, then, we are already focusing on this event, already with
2:26:28
all the artillery. More and more. We know if there are about 1,
2:26:31
500 people registered, but we want them to enjoy it much more.
2:26:35
With Marcos Brunet, author of many of the songs we sing in our churches,
2:26:41
also Lucas Consley, who comes with Jan and the whole team takes your
2:26:45
place. They will have random interventions, but a concert on Saturday night must
2:26:52
also be during the day in let' s say in the pavilion and enjoy
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the sermons of Marcos, Mariano Sene Igual, Marcos Brunet and also Benjamin Núñez
2:27:07
or this boy. You have to listen to it is something impressive and eitiel
2:27:13
stream that will also have a good intervention and roll strip, as they are
2:27:18
four formidable word parachins to register. And they have to do it now because
2:27:22
it' s going very fast. If you want to come to the pastors,
2:27:28
elderly pastors of the church deacons leadership of the very first line, you
2:27:35
can come to the previous day, which is the previous day, the Thursday
2:27:37
afternoon, the day before, which is the 25th of April, and Friday
2:27:41
morning, which will be two plenary sessions for pastors, also with them all,
2:27:46
And this will be in the same fairground, where the pavilion is upstairs,
2:27:52
on the first floor of the top there is a magnificent theater, a
2:27:58
formidable amphitheatre for six hundred people. We are already more than 400 leaders who
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are registered today. Then you can come and enjoy a precongress special. Pastors,
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pastors, families, pastoralists, elders, elders, deacons, deacons,
2:28:18
leaders of the vanguard of youth pastoral leadership, whatever the pastors decide, but
2:28:24
who are leaders who have responsibility and he too can enjoy it. You can
2:28:31
see all these variants on the website if you want to come to the entire
2:28:37
Congress from Friday to Sunday, after lunch, if you want to just attend
2:28:39
going and coming, if you are close, of course if you want to
2:28:46
go to the precongress. Some just come to the Precongress in a few little
2:28:52
shepherds all on the website three vs double point until he comes point? Is
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that three sbles dot until he comes dot? It is there that you can
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see the different options, the prices four star hotels in Saul, which is
2:29:07
ten real minutes from the fairground and to enjoy it to the fullest, to
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be a time of glory of joy, of an awakening of the bride who
2:29:20
is the Church of Jesus, of which we are part, waiting for our
2:29:24
blessed called Jesus, who does not delay to come also in the meantime,
2:29:30
to know that you have to take into account words of faith, of motivation,
2:29:35
of vision and safe outpourings of the Holy Spirit to be in that atmosphere
2:29:41
of the Fira de Reus, with so many people of God and so many
2:29:46
people who come from all parts shepherds of Sergio Zubiagabe from the Canary Islands.
2:29:48
José view from the south. Well I' ve already told you and throws
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roll that is incorporated, that comes as good as for participant, but we
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' ve given you a plenary because he pulls back from these that knows them
2:30:01
very well, because he needs to receive. And then, Enrique Monten many
2:30:05
more pastors, friends from all over and churches coming from small groups others,
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particularly from here, encourage your church to come and enjoy this Congress from 26
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to 28 April at the end of April, there in the line of Reus
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and for any direct information. Until he comes dot is three double bs.
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Period Until he comes point is nothing more and nothing less. He has spoken
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to them with great affection, as always Julio Pérez, a good friend Chao
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the evangelical churches a place of peace and friendship. You can freely attend the
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nearest evangelical church in your neighborhood or your population. You' ll be very welcome.