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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 1-21-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: So the Big twelve football schedule is out.
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  Speaker 4: Utah fans.
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  Speaker 3: If you're looking for a silver lining, if you're looking
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit of a salve on your wounds.
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  Speaker 3: You feel jaded, You feel left behind, You feel saddened
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  Speaker 3: by the departure of he who shall not be named.
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  Speaker 3: You feel like, oh, how could he undermine the staff,
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  Speaker 3: and how could he take away the best players, the
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  Speaker 3: best rising gun players on this team?
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  Speaker 4: How dare he?
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  Speaker 3: If you're looking for something that can make you feel
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  Speaker 3: better about your outlook for next year.
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  Speaker 4: If you need that, I don't need that.
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  Speaker 3: If you need that, well, this schedule is I think't
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  Speaker 3: gonna give it to you, at least on some front.
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  Speaker 4: Utah football.
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  Speaker 3: Starts the season week one at home against Idaho. Then
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  Speaker 3: and it's hosting an SEC team that is gonna give
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  Speaker 3: you an SEC win.
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  Speaker 4: Check the box.
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  Speaker 3: Arkansas is gonna come in and you're gonna beat up
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  Speaker 3: the Razorbacks. You toss State week three, Iowa State, your
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  Speaker 3: first conference game, your first away game coincide with one
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  Speaker 3: another in week four. Then your only by of the
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  Speaker 3: season comes in week five, home against Kansas, on the
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  Speaker 3: road against Colorado, home against Houston. I think Houston's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be pretty good next year, but we're looking at a
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  Speaker 3: situation there where it's win win, win, probably a good
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  Speaker 3: chance for a win.
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  Speaker 4: Bye week win win.
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  Speaker 3: And now you get into an away game, excuse me know,
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  Speaker 3: a home game with Houston where all right might be
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  Speaker 3: getting a little bit tougher. I think Cincinnati is gonna
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  Speaker 3: have a hard time next year. You're on the road
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  Speaker 3: at Cincinnati, you get BYU at home in week ten,
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  Speaker 3: and this is where I have to get on a
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  Speaker 3: oat box that all of you are probably sick of
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  Speaker 3: hearing me get on. This is one of the best
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  Speaker 3: rivalries in all of college football in a time when
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  Speaker 3: college football has abused rivalries, cast them aside, decided they
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  Speaker 3: don't care about the history.
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  Speaker 4: This game is a Week ten game.
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  Speaker 3: It is the best surviving rivalry in the Big Twelve Conference.
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  Speaker 3: There is no more bedlam, there is no more Red
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  Speaker 3: River Shootout. This is the best rivalry that the Big
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  Speaker 3: Twelve Conference can put forth as a showcase. Look what
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  Speaker 3: we've got here. Look at this incredible game. Look at
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  Speaker 3: these two teams, Look at this venom, Look at this
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  Speaker 3: cultural importance byu Utah. One of the prettiest uniform games.
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  Speaker 3: For hell's sake, just visually, it's appealing. Look at what
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  Speaker 3: we've got here in the Big Twelve. One of these
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  Speaker 3: great rivalries. And there's this religious undertone to it. And
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  Speaker 3: there's all this like back and forth, players going and
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  Speaker 3: staff going back and forth. And this guy worked there,
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  Speaker 3: and that guy worked here, and this guy graduated from there.
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  Speaker 4: And was an All conference player here and again.
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  Speaker 3: The Big Twelve Conference, for all of their their blow
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  Speaker 3: and bluster about hey man, we're gonna make sure that
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  Speaker 3: we preserve the history and we preserve these rivalries and
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  Speaker 3: we care and by Utah is gonna be one of them.
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  Speaker 3: You're not treating it like a massive rivalry game. You're
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  Speaker 3: not treating it like it's your best rivalry game. You're
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  Speaker 3: not putting it on rivalry weekend. How many people had
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  Speaker 3: to say Week twelve, Week thirteen in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: five season. Can you imagine if this game was being
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  Speaker 3: played this week with the stakes a trip to the
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  Speaker 3: conference championship game on the line.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine how huge that game would have been.
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  Speaker 3: College Game Day would have been here, big nowon kickoff
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  Speaker 3: would have been here.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that happened anyway for the rivalry game. But
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  Speaker 4: put it at the end of the season where it belongs.
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  Speaker 3: Brett, your mark, Go over your calendar, go over your schedule,
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  Speaker 3: and say, big fat circle byu Utah, best game.
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  Speaker 4: We've got on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Arizona State in Arizona are both gonna be pretty
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  Speaker 3: good this year. The Territorial Cup is gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: good rivalry game this year. Let's make sure we feature
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  Speaker 3: that one too. Oh wait, we did we put that
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  Speaker 3: in Week thirteen. We treated that like an in state
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  Speaker 3: rivalry game. We put it on Rivalry Weekend. We did
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  Speaker 3: that for you. Isn't that nice? Arizona State, in Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: your Heritage Territorial Cup rivalry game is being treated like that.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, little head. Non Farmageddon is being played
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  Speaker 3: on rivalry weekend. Iowa State, Kansas State, which had to
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  Speaker 3: flip flop its position. They played that one in Dublin
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  Speaker 3: last year, so you better put it in rivalry weekend
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 4: And then beyond that you got nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Is TCU Texas Tech a big in state rivalry? I
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  Speaker 3: thought that was more of a Baylor Texas Tech thing
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  Speaker 3: or Baylor TCU even it seems to be a bigger
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  Speaker 3: deal because those are both those are both religious institutions too,
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  Speaker 3: and they're somewhat close to each other.
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  Speaker 4: Waco and Fort Worth.
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  Speaker 3: The storied rivalry game you get to play week thirteen
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  Speaker 3: when everyone else is squaring off against their in state rival,
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  Speaker 3: against their hated Ooh.
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  Speaker 4: I god, stand these guys. Oh, it's the Civil War game.
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  Speaker 4: It's the Apple Cup. Guess what you're doing. You're playing?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's it's a Mountain rivalry. Okay, this is it's
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  Speaker 3: not a it's not a geographical rivalry. It's a topographical
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  Speaker 3: rivalry game. Okay, Utah Mountains against the Mountaineers of West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Wassatch versus Appleachian. Let's go the biggest topographic rivalry in
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  Speaker 3: the country, the Utes versus the Mountaineers.
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  Speaker 5: Do you want learfield guy voice, It's the rumble in
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  Speaker 5: the mountains.
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  Speaker 3: It's not in the Rubble and the Rockies. It's the
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  Speaker 3: rumble in they both have mountain ranges. Okay, I know,
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  Speaker 3: I know. The game's got to be played. No matter what,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's in week ten or it's in week thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: it's still the most important date on your sports calendar.
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  Speaker 3: There is a case to be made that when you
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  Speaker 3: put it by itself on the national college football slate,
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  Speaker 3: there's no possibility for that in state rivalry game to
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  Speaker 3: be washed under by the other big Rivalyes, that happen
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  Speaker 3: around the country.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want it to get overshined outshined by some.
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  Speaker 3: Of the other in some of the other big rivalries
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  Speaker 3: that are played in college football. But here's the thing,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those are going away. Notre Dame usc
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  Speaker 3: ain't played the final week of the season. You're you're
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  Speaker 3: finding that these are these games of such importance culturally
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  Speaker 3: competitively from a conference standpoint of the Big twelve, you
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  Speaker 3: absolutely need this game and you need it to be
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  Speaker 3: showcased instead of capitulating and surrendering and saying, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we can't. We can't compete with uh we can't compete
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  Speaker 3: with the big time rivalries, the best ones.
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  Speaker 4: We can't.
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  Speaker 3: This is in Ohio State, Michigan. You can't put on
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  Speaker 3: the same weekend that those guys are playing. Just find
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  Speaker 3: a different time slot and let's roll. People around the
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  Speaker 3: country aren't gonna watch it if the teams aren't good anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Assume that your conference needs to feature its biggest rivalry
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  Speaker 3: games on rivalry weekend, and put the best one there
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  Speaker 3: is on that weekend BYU Utah is gonna be played
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  Speaker 3: week ten. But back to the way, way, way, way
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  Speaker 3: too early prognostications. No matter how much inconsistency you have,
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  Speaker 3: no matter how many growing pains and changes you've got.
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  Speaker 3: With Morgan Scalley taking over as head coach for the
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  Speaker 3: first time, Idaho, you win that game, Arkansas, you win
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  Speaker 3: that game Utah State. It's honestly, it's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit tougher than you want it to be.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll see how the transfers that Utah State gets
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  Speaker 3: net out while nobody else can put their name in
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  Speaker 3: the transfer portal. Right now, you will find schools like
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  Speaker 3: Utah State getting more of the like last resort type transfers,
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  Speaker 3: guys who we've all played musical chairs, right, Guys who
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  Speaker 3: are really enthusiastic and they think that they're gonna find
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  Speaker 3: a seat and then they're like, oh wait a second,
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  Speaker 3: Utah didn't want me. By you didn't want me. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Arizona and Arizona State were going to be in
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  Speaker 3: on me. I thought Colorado would be a nice little
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  Speaker 3: fallback for me. It's not there. Utah State is the
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  Speaker 3: kind of program that some of those guys who are
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  Speaker 3: talented but maybe unproven, they end up. So we'll see
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  Speaker 3: what that roster ends up looking like. Last year they
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  Speaker 3: had like, what was it, sixty five seventy new guys
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  Speaker 3: on the Utah State roster.
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  Speaker 4: There's some insane number.
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  Speaker 3: This year won't be quite like that because Broncos got
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  Speaker 3: a little more consistency, but they have plenty of people
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  Speaker 3: moving on so Utah State and they're going to give
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  Speaker 3: you their best, But that's at Rice Eco Stadium. So
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  Speaker 3: now again penciling it in way too early, you're a
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  Speaker 3: three to oh team. You win at Iowa State, they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure things out. That's a new coaching staff.
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  Speaker 3: That's a roster with a ton of turnover, even more
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  Speaker 3: than what you've got. Now you're four and oh heading
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  Speaker 3: into your bye week. You're feeling pretty good, all right.
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  Speaker 3: At that point, Devin dan Pierre has had the hype conversation,
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  Speaker 3: Matt Lionerd has said, that's a Heisman guy again. Bird
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  Speaker 3: Ficklan has had the hype conversation from RG three. They've said, man,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see this guy every single week. So
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  Speaker 3: there's some optimism around the team. You go into the
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  Speaker 3: bye week, you lick the wounds, you get to bump
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  Speaker 3: some bruises.
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  Speaker 4: Out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: You say, all right, let's buckle down for a conference schedule. Kansas, Yeah, right, Jayhawks.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that made you good these last few
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  Speaker 3: years is gone. And you never took advantage of having
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Daniels as your quarterback. Sorry, Kansas Colorado, the Isaac
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  Speaker 3: Wilson game, you got that one on the road. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: You'll play fine at Boulder. Now we're talking about a
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  Speaker 3: six and oh Utah team.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, well, what a way to ramp up that rivalry.
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  Speaker 5: By the way Isaac Wilson revenge game from from the
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  Speaker 5: sideline wearing the orange vests.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: We will see, all right, maybe he won't be We
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  Speaker 3: will see what Dion can because like Jordan Seaton has gone,
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  Speaker 3: he's still He had a couple of holdovers from his
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  Speaker 3: really really talented roster where he had the Heisman Trophy
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  Speaker 3: winner Travis Hunter, and he had his own son, Shador.
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  Speaker 3: And he had his own son Shiloh, who man uh
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  Speaker 3: decent enough player. Not exactly the easiest personality to deal with, but.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, at least see at least he didn't big time
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  Speaker 5: yet Big twelve media days.
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  Speaker 4: He actually he actually talked to you. We tricked him
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  Speaker 4: into it.
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  Speaker 3: We tricked we tricked Shiloh into talking with us. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to, but we tricked him into it by
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  Speaker 3: talking boxing. Yeah, we're gonna find out a lot, lot
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  Speaker 3: lot about Dion and his staff based on the twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six Big twelve Football twenty six football season in general,
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  Speaker 3: but the twenty twenty six Big twelve slate because They've
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  Speaker 3: got Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 4: That's a loss.
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  Speaker 3: They've got Weaber State, that's they've scheduled that as a win.
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  Speaker 3: But yikes, they've got Northwestern. Who knows what Northwestern is
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  Speaker 3: next year? Hey, who's the new head coach there? I
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  Speaker 3: just the only thing I can think of is Chip
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  Speaker 3: Kelly the OC. Anyway, They've they've got coaching changes to
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  Speaker 3: the coaching staff. At least we'll see how that. David
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  Speaker 3: Braun is the head coach. So Bron's still the head coach. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So the only thing that did change. That's why all
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  Speaker 3: I can think of is Chip Kelly was the new
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  Speaker 3: OC and we'll see if we'll see if that makes
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  Speaker 3: them much better. Maybe they're the next Indiana c worse
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  Speaker 3: to first. Yes, yep, that's okay. That feels likely that
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  Speaker 3: that feels like something that's a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: Ye.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: But so Colorado's gonna start with Georgia Tech, Weaver State, Northwestern.
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  Speaker 3: Then they've got a road game at Baylor, then they're
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  Speaker 3: going to get demolished by Texas Tech, and then they'll
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  Speaker 3: have a week six bye week, so they have the
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  Speaker 3: buy ahead of the Utah game. But I just I'm
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  Speaker 3: not a believer in Colorado because when they don't have
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  Speaker 3: the recruiting successes, the guys that Dion was able to
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  Speaker 3: bring in with him from his FCS experience. Now everyone's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, we know what this is at Colorado.
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  Speaker 4: We know what this is.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm getting way ahead of myself here, but we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about what should be a pretty strong start to
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  Speaker 3: the Morgan Scalley era. He's already one to zero as
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  Speaker 3: the head coach after that very impressive showing in the
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  Speaker 3: bowl game. So we might be seeing a Morgan Scalley
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  Speaker 3: sitting here when it gets into the meat of the
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  Speaker 3: schedule at six and oh seven and oh, Houston's a
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  Speaker 3: tough out Cincinnati I think is a win for you
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  Speaker 3: BYU at home. It's a rivalry game. BYU is going
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  Speaker 3: to have a right bear with me saying this Utah fans.
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  Speaker 3: BYU is going to have the more proven roster next year.
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  Speaker 3: Once we get to Week ten, when that game is played,
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  Speaker 3: we'll know a lot more about both teams. But starting
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  Speaker 3: the year, BYU is gonna be ranked higher. They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be projected to be more successful. If that team stays healthy.
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  Speaker 3: That is a really good BYU football team that is
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  Speaker 3: incredibly well coached. They lost Jay Hill, which is a massive,
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  Speaker 3: massive loss, but they kept Chad, they kept Kelly Papinga,
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  Speaker 3: they kept Valato Satawala, they kept Gary Anderson, They kept
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the things that made them good. Arizona
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna be a good team next year. Arizona's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be good. TCU's always talented West Virginia at home in
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  Speaker 3: the topographical rivalry game to finish out the season. The
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  Speaker 3: schedule is doing you favors Utah fans. You've got no
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech. You've got no Arizona State. You've got you're
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  Speaker 3: dodging two of the most talented rosters in the conference
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  Speaker 3: with the scheduling here, no Texas Tech obviously being the
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  Speaker 3: most important of those. Interestingly enough, Texas Tech, you want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about things working out nicely for them from
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  Speaker 3: a scheduling standpoint, Texas Tech is probably going to be
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  Speaker 3: flirting with an undefeated regular season next year again. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Arizona State was the thing that took that away from them.
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  Speaker 3: They've got Arizona State at home this year. Arizona State
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  Speaker 3: does not have quite the roster they had last year.
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  Speaker 4: At least in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Again, we'll see because I have you got to watch
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  Speaker 3: how the transfers in and out affect both of these rosters.
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  Speaker 3: But Texas Tech does not play Utah, does not play
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  Speaker 3: BYU this year. Their toughest games for a relow did
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  Speaker 3: retooled Texas Tech Red Raiders team that loses a ton
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  Speaker 3: but has a ton of money to replace. Their toughest
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  Speaker 3: games are Houston that's at home for them. They've got
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  Speaker 3: Arizona State again at home. They've got Arizona at home.
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  Speaker 3: They've got no tough road games at all Texas Tech,
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  Speaker 3: and they passed the test on their road games coming
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  Speaker 3: to rise Eco Stadium and looking impressive. They passed the
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  Speaker 3: test last year in the road games. Texas Tech has
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  Speaker 3: not one tough road game on the season. Oregon State, Colorado, Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. I guess Baylor kind of they got DJ Lagway.
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  Speaker 3: Dave Randa in a different year, probably would have been fired,
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  Speaker 3: probably would have been on the hot seat. And if
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  Speaker 3: the cycle wasn't already so crazy and there weren't so
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  Speaker 3: many high value job openings that Baylor knew they probably
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  Speaker 3: couldn't compete with, I think Dave Randa might not be
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  Speaker 3: the head coach at Baylor going in and then we'll
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  Speaker 3: be talking about a completely different picture here. So Texas
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  Speaker 3: Tech with a friendly schedule, Utah with a friendly schedule,
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  Speaker 3: and BYU with a pretty friendly schedule. They've got Arizona
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  Speaker 3: at home. They've got an early bye week week four,
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  Speaker 3: which means man for BYU, it goes after their bye week.
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  Speaker 3: TCU on the road, that's a tough game. Iowa stayed
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  Speaker 3: at home. Notre Dame at home. That's a really really
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  Speaker 3: tough game. UCF on the road, Arizona State at home.
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  Speaker 3: Will see how difficult that is. On the road at
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  Speaker 3: Utah home against Baylor on the road against Kansas and
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: BYU again. Wow, what a wonderful rivalry game to close
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: it all out with ladies and gentlemen. BYU's got Cincinnati
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: to finish out their season at home.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: So right now, based on paper and on scheduling alone,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at TCU having a pretty good schedule. They've
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: got North Carolina in Dublin to start the year. Then
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: they've got a bye week right after that, so week
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: zero their plan, they should be able to beat North Carolina.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Week one, they've got a buye what if they got
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Grambling in week three, or excuse me, week two, I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: guess their third week Week two, they've got Arkansas State.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Those are obviously designed wins for TCU. UCF on the road,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: win BYU at home. Look, I'm still gonna give the
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: edge to BYU, but that's a tough out for the coops.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Then they've got another bye week before they head into
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the meat of the schedule. Baylor, West Virginia, Kansas, Arizona,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Kansas State, Utah, Texas Tech. TCU is going to be
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: one of the more talented teams in the conference this year,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: but they've got kind of a nightmare of a schedule.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Now they get both BYU and Utah at home, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: they finish on the road against Texas Tech. They've got
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Arizona on the road. Arizona finished this season ranks. They
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: like the transfer class that they're bringing in. They're a
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: well coached team that was one of those squads you
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: had to be a little bit patient with. You look
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: at just the paper of this schedule. Release Texas Tech
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: on top Utah with the second easiest schedule I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: in the whole conference, and they I think a talented
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: enough team to take advantage of that they've got it
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: easier than Arizona does. I think Arizona, TCU, Arizona State
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: are all slotted right into that same category as far
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: as talent goes. And Houston is a potential like snake
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: in the grass type team, but they've got tough road
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: games against Texas Tech early Utah right in the middle
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of the season. They finish with Baylor at home. Houston,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I'll give their schedule like a B in terms of
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: its difficulty. If you're a ute fan looking for something
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to inject a little optimism into your twenty twenty six outlook,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: look no further than the Big twelve Football schedule release.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: My only complaint with it, my only gripe with it,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: is that you don't get BYU and the rivalry weekend.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: That's just something we're gonna have to get used to.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Brett Ormark does not respect this rivalry enough, or doesn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: care about this rivalry enough, or he just has the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: opinion that it's better placed in Week ten when there
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: are fewer feature games and it can kind of stand
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: alone as the best game of that weekend. And I
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: suppose there's a case to be made for that. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the only other gripe that you could possibly have as
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a Utah fan is that there's just nothing really sexy
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: on your schedule besides that rivalry, g besides the Holy War.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Like your home tickets.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Your season ticket package is Idaho, Arkansas, Utah State, Kansas, Houston, BYU,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: and West Virginia. I am the worst probably in the
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: whole business at this pining for the bygone days of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: having a loaded PAC twelve schedule.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I get to go watch Oregon, Washington, Ucla, and Arizona
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: State all in the same year at rice Eco Stadium.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: This year you get Idaho, Arkansas, Utah State, Kansas, Houston, BYU,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and West Virginia. Now, I guess the best part of
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: that is that is win win, win, win, probable win
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: coin toss win. So your home slate is at least
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: going to be you watching this team play well and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: win football games. There was some pain in that Texas
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Tech home game for people last year. You won't experience
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: that early in the season at rice Eco Stadium in
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. There's some benefit to it. The schedule
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: is out and Utah's slate looks like it is a
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: very very welcoming path for the beginning of the Morgan
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Scalley era. It's the first time it gets dicey at
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: all is week four, and I don't think Iowa State
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: is going to be that great. You got until week
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: eight when we're doing I don't know, can you win
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: this game? You get all the way until week eight
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: to figure out what you have as a team.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Are they buying into the culture?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Have you kept this team healthy before you really get
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: into games where it's just like, man, that's a tough one.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you can win that game.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: You have all the way until week eight, top fans,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: So my gripe, I'm gonna set it aside. Okay, I
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: already spoke my piece on where I think this BYU
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: rivalry belongs. But the rest of it is, Hey, you
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: should be a really good team next year. You're gonna
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: be able to stack seven wins at least in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: first eight weeks. You're gonna be a top twenty five
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: team probably to start the season. You're right in that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: twenty three to twenty five range. Right you start the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: season three and oh, now you're number twenty one. Then
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: you get to four and oh, now you're number twenty.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Then you get to five, and oh after the bye week,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: now you're you're flirting with a top twenty team, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: you have an opportunity with that Week ten game BYU
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: is gonna be a top ten team in the country
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: at that point, are going to be ranked number eight,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna host them, and you're gonna be number twenty.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: That's a college game day appearance. That's a big noon
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: kickoff type game. That's a showcase opportunity for the uniforms,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: for the state, for the campus, and most importantly for
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Morgan scally's new staff, and an offense that we hope
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: is taking advantage of the presence of Devin Dan Pierre
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: and Bird Ficklin and way Sean Parker and a bunch
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: of transfers. And by the way, the on paper best
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: wide receiving corps that you've had in the last seven
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: to ten years from a production from a returning production standpoint,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: we were wringing our hands and lamenting, oh my gosh,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you've got one hundred total yards coming back in your
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: wide receiving corps. Not this year now in a Utah uniform.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Not a lot of yardage. However, guys that have been
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: productive elsewhere. Even the Noah anything is a good addition there.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Now you've got two hyper athletic, kind of hybrid tight
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: end type bodies to use. I mean, Kevin mcgiven, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: think is a good coordinator. There's no excuse from a
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: talent standpoint as to why Kevin mcgiven on the edges
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: on the perimeter should not have what he needs. We
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: will find out a lot when we start getting into
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: springball and you start talking about, especially these first few games,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: what that offensive line looks like, because what a tough
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: unit to replace five starters, all of whom should get
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: professional opportunities, two of them as all of you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: projected first round draft picks. That's going to be a
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: really really hard thing. The number two rushing offense in
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the country next year, spoiler alert, ain't going to be
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: the University of Utah because they don't have quite that
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: on the offensive line. But I look at this talent,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: that schedule, a new coaching staff. While I'm high on
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: but I do expect some growing pains from and I say,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: all right, at the very least we're going to have
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: we I mean, maybe this is the worst case scenario,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: because if you had like this really loaded, nasty conference schedule,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: first conference game again is Texas Tech, then you got
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: BYU two weeks later, and you got Arizona on the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: road like in week five, maybe we can mitigate our
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: expectations a little bit. Maybe we can temper what we
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: demand of Morgan Scalley in that kid in that case.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: But what we're gonna have instead is we're gonna have
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: our guy, the Utah Man, Morgan Scalley sprinting off to
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: a six and host start, and everyone's gonna be like Voldemort,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: who never even heard of him, don't even care, He's gone.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Look what we got here. This schedule really lays out
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: nicely for the utes. James, your pensive back. There, Oh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the show. Oh I actually I
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: let's just move on. Apologies, We'll go all good, All right?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: In any case, we have a fun show lined up
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: for you today. Kyle Bonnegera is going to join us next,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: talk a little college football to fall out of a
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: national championship. We might even touch on a little soccer
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: with Kyle Bonnagerro. We've got tickets to give away. We
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: got a daily Dumb coming up, we go between the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Pipes with Adrian Denny and how about this Cade Madson
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: from the Professional bull Riders is going to join us
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: at one point thirty. PBR is coming early in February,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and if you have not watched PBR or if you've
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: not been in the building for a PBR event, we've
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: got tickets to give away for that during our topical
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: trivia later today.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: We're just getting started.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: On a Wednesday, It's the Sean ol'cyle Show with plenty
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: to get to ESPN seven.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Who you tuned to The Shaw O'Connell Show from the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven and nine am.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: To me.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Small little order of business here on the Shaan O'Connell Show.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Guys, I'm actually pumped about this.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Our friends over at Real Salt Lake they're doing a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: self examination, a little audit, internal audit of the branding
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: with their sports properties now that the ownership group has
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: changed and there's a takeover for the Miller Sports Group
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Real Salt Lake has a little
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: survey out there. I've retweeted and you can find your
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: They're asking for your opinion on these things on your
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: brand aware us on whether you like the logo, whether
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: you like the name on your favorite players, all that
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, and the possibilities here. We'll get into
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: them a little bit later. It feels like this survey
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: makes it feel like a rebrand is potentially in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: offing for oursl This is something that I would cherish, welcome, adore,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: love because it always bothered me. Look, we love the players.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I've even developed an affection for the colors. It always
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: bothered me that it was just a cheap knockoff of
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Real Madrid in Salt Lake City. It made no sense
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: to me. Brand something that actually makes sense for us.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: That might be possible. So go to at realoc Sports
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and click the link in the tweet for Miller Sports
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Entertainment and give some feedback if you agree with me, though,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: if you cherish the Real Salt Lake brand and you
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: just want them to keep that, we don't need your opinion,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: all right, That's how the show works, all right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: We're lucky enough to welcome Kyle Bonnagera to the show.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Lots of things to talk about.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Maybe he'll have an opinion or two about a potential
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: rebrand for Real assault Lake.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Kyle Bondagirl, welcome, How are you.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: Now you have me thinking about rebrands and MLS and
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: I think I come down firmly team rebrand is fine.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: The real part for me, Yeah, a little cheap, little
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: knockoffishy and there's something that could probably find this more
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: authentic to the region, to the league, and stop trying
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: to pretend that you're on the Mediterranean somewhere.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you agreeing with me, at least verbally, whether
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: that's in your heart or not, because it just never
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: made sense to me. And look, I know that, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: sometimes the brand has to grow with you and on
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: you because of what they do. And they accomplished an
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: MLS Cup, but that was a long time ago. Now
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: and new ownership, it's a perfect time, so I don't know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: we'll see, but I want to talk a lot of
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: things with Kyle Bonagera from ESPN the Indiana Hoosiers. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: know you've been having these discussions all week already, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: this team, this program under Kurt Signetti being a national champion,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and now it looks like a power that might be
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: here to stay with plenty of booster support, plenty of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: nil support and with success in the recent transfer portal,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and obviously for them it's not closed yet. I suppose
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: there will be a little attrition from this year's roster,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: but nothing that we're seeing that's overly meaningful. Is the
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: magic we watched under Kurt Signetti these last couple of years.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Is it sustainable for Indiana in your mind?
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: I think so, because I think he's just that he's
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: just that good, right, I mean, I keep going back
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: to his opening press covers at Indiana or a Google
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: me I win. I mean it's true. I mean the
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: levels are different, but everywhere he's been, he's won, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: he's one big and so I mean, there doesn't appear
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: to be anything like revolutionary that he's doing there. Right,
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: they look like a college football team, But he just
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: does every like it feels like he just has everything
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: a little bit better than everyone else, whether that's roster management,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: talent identification, you know, scheme in whatever which direction. Football
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: you know, obviously, coaching matters more than any other sport
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: by a wide margin. Right, The scheme and building a program,
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: all of that stuff is so dependent on having to coach.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: That's a leader.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Look out.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: Alabama was successful for a long time under Nick Saban.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: It wasn't because it was Alabama. You know that there
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: were certainly some inherent advantages of being that a blue blood.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: That's helpful. But when you have the best coach, you're
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: gonna win a lot of games. And I think right
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: now Kurt Signetti has you know, made a strong case
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: that that he's the best coaching in college football, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: you know, that's a that's a pretty good place to start.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Of course, you need the resources on top of that
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: in this era of college football too, and and they
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: have that. They have the largest umni based in school
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: in the country. And with that, with the success is
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: going to come more investment. It's going to lead to
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: more people wanting to play there. So yeah, I think
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: they're they're going to be around for a while. But
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: I would also you know, spress it. You know, you
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: kind of have to reset every year in the sport.
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: So I think it's certainly possible that we'll see other
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: programs going to pop up and drop back. That's just
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: the way of the world. Now.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: There was a there was a long time where Nick
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Saban Alabama teams were dominant and successful, almost sometimes despite
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: the quarterback play like they had stars in every position
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: seemingly accept quarterback in some of those years, and those
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: were national championship contention or national championship winning.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Years in some of those cases.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: It if Indiana is sustainable and it does become something
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: of a dynasty, do you think that it's going to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: be built through the quarterback down? I mean, obviously, this
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: year their guy won the Heisman Trophy and f Nana
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Mendoza was incredible and he made the necessary plays right
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: off the top of the statistic, he wasn't exactly a monster,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and they went out and they addressed the need to
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: replace him in the transfer portal. But do you think
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that Kurt Signetti is going to build from the quarterback
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: down or could he potentially build his teams where I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: just need someone who's good enough and we're gonna be
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: nasty everywhere else like those Bama teams were.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, So I don't know if I'd really look at
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: it like that. I think you're you're trying to get
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: the best players you can at every position, right, So,
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: like just because they have a good quarterback, that doesn't
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: mean they're not going to pursue it. Like, I don't
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: think that'll affect their strategy elsewhere, maybe like in terms
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: of if you're gonna be more, you're gonna throw the
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: ball over and run it. Maybe that you know in
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: terms of how you're gonna spread out your money right
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: and pay guys and build the roster that way, I suppose.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: But I think that what's unique about college triple now
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: is like without having to sit out when you transfer,
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: not just regrets for anyone, you can go out and
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: find a really good quarterback every single year, a guy
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: who's proven at a high level, and you kind of
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: what you're getting into. You don't have to take a
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: chance on someone who you've developed in your program. I
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: think there will be times where, you know, quarterbacks do
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: come along and like, hey, like we've seen him in
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: practice for a year, we know, we feel really confident
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: that he's going to be the guy to pass the
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: batantu and and and win with him. But I think
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: it's very case by case, right, If you have a
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: guy who you're confident in, you roll with him. If not,
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: you go out and you get a good player. And
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: I think where the winning really helps, right, It's like, look,
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: now they've got two case studies right with with with
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: Roark last year and with Windoza this year, they have
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: two transfer quarterbacks who came in and we're you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: they were accomplished to a certain degree other places, but
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: they really, you know, took it to the next level
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: at Indiana. And so now that you have that pitch
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: to sell top talent a quarterback, like, I think it's
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: going to be very easy for them to continue to,
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: uh to bring guys into the transfer portal if that's
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: the route they want to keep going.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that are going to try
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: to replicate what Indiana has done. I've heard Signetty kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: of joking about I don't know if I'm going to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: like have a coach's clinic and tell everyone our secrets.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: But uh, there's also the idea that, like, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: you try to copy what teams like Indiana have done,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: and I don't know how easy that is to do,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: how replicable If that's the right way to say it
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: is Indiana's success elsewhere, it's a it's.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: A good question because I don't really think it's, like
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: like I said before, I don't think there's anything that
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: they're doing that is like so revolutionary, right, Like, there's
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: there's certain programs you can think about, like Oregan stands
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: out when they had things wrong with Chip Kelly as
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: the offensive quarter. They were so different offensively that it
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: spawned copycats around college football, right, because hey, they're having
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: so much success doing this thing that was you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: wasn't completely new, but it was certainly unique. And there's
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: a lot of new new ground that was being plowed
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: there with Indiana. Like when I watch them play, it's
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: not like I'm seeing something that I haven't seen before, right,
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: It's it's it's just the little things that they've just
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: executed on. And it's boring to say, but I think
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: that's the reality here, And I think what what what
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Signetti does? And my colleague Ada murt and Burhannickett story
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: about this was last week. I think where he's just
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: really good at identifying talent, right, And that's a skill,
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: and skills aren't something you can necessarily replicate. You can
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: try to put in similar processes to checks and balances
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: and trying to identify guys at lower levels, whether it's
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: you know, identifying production or measurables whatever, whatever the case
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: may be. Right, But if if two guys are sitting
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: next to each other and they make one guy makes
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: one of the evaluation and the other guy makes a
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: different evaluation. You can't really, uh, there's nothing you can
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: do to protect against that, right, Like Signetti is just
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: very good at it, and that's an edge that's hard
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: to hard to copy. And so yeah, I think certainly
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: football is a copycaps were like to a certain degree,
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: I guess, but for football more than others. And yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: there will be programs that draw from them, whether it's stematically,
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: whether it's you know, how they build the roster. I
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: don't think that's necessarily unique to Indiana. That's just kind
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: of the cyclical nature of the sport.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Kyle Bonager, our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: talking all things college football. At least for now, it
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: was a wild college football coaching carousel which new head
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: coach is most intriguing in his new.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Spot for you?
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: Ooh, that's interesting, Well, you know, and this is maybe
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: playing to the local market to a degree, I guess,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: But like, because I've followed Kyle Wenningham for for so
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: long and then the youth or so on, I have
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: a pretty good enterstaining of the program at least is
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: like compared to like maybe national reporters I suppose, but like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: let's let's see what that looks like at Michigan. I'm
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: really interested to see how they looked under Kyle and
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: kind of what what is his transition process is like?
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: There that one. That one's the obvious one for me.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, Campbell at Penn State is another
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: one that Okay, he you know, he had a I
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: always say, it's interesting, right because they were one of
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: the worst teams in college football for you know, one
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: hundred years, and he shows up and they're regularly competing
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: at the top levels of the Big twelve. Like does
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: that how does that translate at Penn State? You know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: this is a program that fire their coach, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: midyear after going to the national semi final the year before.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: For me, that felt like a bit of an overreaction.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: And so what kind of uh, you know, what kind
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: of support does he get if if if if they
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: start you know four and three, four and two something
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: like that, what is the what is the environment and
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: Happy Valley? Like So for me, those are the two
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: off the top of my head that that are interested in.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: U c l A is interesting as well with Chesney,
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: coming from James Madison, the tosh Lapoy, going back to
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: his alma Madrcal I lived here in the area. I'll
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: certainly have my eyes on that one. Stanford. Look, there's
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: there's so many. It's such a it's such an interesting cycle.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: We could we could kind of go down one by
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: one here and it's been three hours. It's it's it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: been a lot of fun to track.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: The Tosco port was really interesting for me because he's
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: had this reputation for you know, almost two decades now
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: as being this incredible recruiter. And I have a certain
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: affection for the Bay Area myself. Cal's awesome campus and
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: awesome school. Uh. I guess it's somewhat hard to get into,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: but I don't think so for football players necessarily.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Uh can he.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Could he bring the talent that he had at a
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: place like Oregon to Cal? Can you have the success
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: he's had other places at Cal as the head coach?
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Because if if so, I think they could be really
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: really interesting in that new conference.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: I think Cow has the infrastructure to be competitive in
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: the NCC. Like, there's no reason for me that they
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: that they shouldn't. If you look at the history of
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: the program. It's it's it's not too not too favorable there.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: But but look, I think, you know, it really comes
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: down to what does your what do the conference look like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: what the NIO coffers look like. And you know Ron
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: River who's been out the GM at at TEL a
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: longtime NFL coach. You know he was when he introduced
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: Tosh you know whatever was over a month ago. Now,
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: you know, he talked about, hey, we're fully funded on
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: the nl front and we're going to be you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: competitive in the ACC when it comes to that. And
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: so that's the case, Like I certainly feel like you
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: should be able to build a roster because I think
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: that's the factor that matters more than anything else. Like
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: it's one thing before, right, if everyone's just getting offered
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: a scholarship to go to school X or school y whatever,
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: and you're just weighing one scholarship person another writers playing time,
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: there's a whole bunch of factors. But it's they were
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: really very even. But but now if you have you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: one offer that's tix hundred thousand dollars and one is
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: one hundred thousand dollars, Like it's pretty easy to make
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: that decision right if you're an eighteen year old kid
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: or if you're going to transfer portal. And so I
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: think it doesn't necessarily become about like canny recruit guys.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: I think it's like, can they build the roster in
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: a way that makes a lot of sense. And so
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: far the the transfer class is has been very impressive.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: I think they got thirty guys that are that are
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: committed to come over or have committed to come over.
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: A lot of interesting themes on that list, and so yeah,
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: it's it's a whole new world, right, And so the
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: skills don't always translate. Just because you're able to convince
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: a high school kid ten years ago doesn't mean you
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: know when when money wasn't involved. Now it's a different world.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: And I do think that you know, he's been around
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: enough programs and is kind of wired in a way
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: to be successful in this type of environment.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Where is Darien Mensa going to be playing next year?
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: That's fascinating because I mean, if and I haven't read
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: I haven't read the lawsuit or anything, but if you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: if Duke feels so strongly about what they have in
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: writing with him that they're going to take it to court.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: It's good. It's it's it's an interesting case today because
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: its very similar Washington, right where you hate the guys
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: in the contract announcing he's going into the portal. They say,
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: we're going to fight it. You know, he gets some
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: legal demand Williams of Washington, gets some legal advice and
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: kind of cooler head to for avail. He reverses course.
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: Like you know, whether that happens or not, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: I don't have any great prediction story on that, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: like it's certainly going to be a fascinating test case
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: because if he does push it and and fights it
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: to go, whether it's Miami or somewhere else. That's that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: the rumor the last time I kind of read about it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: It really sets an interesting president probably a bad precedent.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: If you have a contract signed, you probably should be
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: helped held to that, and once you start getting away
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: from that, then you look, there's it's it's kind of
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: comical at this point to kind of talk about guardrails
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: in college football, but once you start get away from
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: signed like contract agreements, then then the wheels are completely off.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: So I don't have any great prediction, but we'll also
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: don't be monitoring that, you know, monitoring it closely, like
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: from his point forward, just because I think it sets
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: the precedent for how these sort of things will be
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: enforced in the future.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: All Right, I want to finish with a question about
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Utah football, because obviously we're the home of the youths.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Like you said, you've covered Kyle Whittingham for a long time.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: You covered Utah football under that regime for a long time.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: How do you think the schedule is released today? It's
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: a pretty soft schedule, pretty friendly schedule for Utah, at
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: least on paper. How do you think this Morgan scalley
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: first year is going to go? They lost some serious
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: talent to the draft and of the transfer portal. How
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: do you think you know his first run at being
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: a head coach is going to go way way too
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: early prediction?
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think top top third in the conference is
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: probably where i'd start things down in January, right. Obviously
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: a lot to learn still about what that looks like.
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I think part of that is, you know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: the back half of the Big twelve just isn't very good, right,
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: and so I think like as a starting point, like,
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: there's no way that I see them finished like the
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: bottom half of the of the conference, just because you'll
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: come and sense I guess, but yeah, but there's I mean,
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: BYU has things roll in Texas Tech has things rolling.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: You know, Houston's pretty good, Arizona had a bounce back.
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: You're Dellingham and Arizona State. It's certainly capable of getting
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: them going again. And so yeah, so somewhere in that,
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: probably behind Texas Tech, in that next tier probably is
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: where I would start them and take it from there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how it all plays out to only
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: a couple of months till springball, and obviously we start
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the countdown until late August.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Kyle boni Gera, appreciate your time. Thank you.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Thanks so see great stuff from Kyle Bonagura. ESPN College
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Football and Soccer Insider. We did touch very very briefly
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: on a potential rebrand for Real Salt Lake. We'll get
• 47:50
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• 47:52
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• 48:20
  Speaker 1: You were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
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• 48:27
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• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I just put the poll question up eight seven seven
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. I'd like to hear
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: from you on the text line as well, not just
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: on Twitter. But the pole question is very simple, would
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: you support a rename, a rebrand of Real Salt Lake.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: They are well, they were the second major pro sports
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: franchise that we got, and they are I think in
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Of people's minds still number two behind the Jazz.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I probably would say my interest, my individual interest is
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Mammoth Jazz RSL, but that's a personal taste thing.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I I think Mammoth's overtaken them, I mean, but maybe not.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm I'm not into the into the RSL.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: I'm not on the pulse of RSL like like some
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: people who are who are big fans are. So maybe
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: maybe Mammoth is still just a little bit behind. But
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I think the Mammoths have overtaken them because MLS is
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: not a major American sports league. It's like the fifth league,
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: and I think it's growing and I like the growth
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: of MLS and but I don't think it's even to
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: where hockey isn't popularity yet.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: But I could be I could be wrong on that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: They keep saying we're closing in a Major League baseball
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I think you gotta overtake NHL first. So
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Miller Sports Entertainment put out a tweet we are seeking
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: feedback from fans and the community on their connection and
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: experiences with Utah Royals, FC and Real Salt Lake brands.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Share your thoughts here and then there's a link and
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: it's it's like a Qualtricks type survey, right, and it
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: takes it takes a while, by the way, to finish
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: this whole thing. So if you're gonna do it a
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: lot five to ten minutes to answer all these questions
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: and be honest about it. But one of the questions
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: in there is about whether or not you would want
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: to rename the team, and for me, that's an emphatic yes.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Now part of that is because I have not been
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: the most died in the wall hardcore Real Salt Lake fan.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I enjoy the game experiences every time I go. I
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: think it's a great time. I love where the stadium's
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: at uh. There's obviously some nostalgia for people who have
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: been supporters of the team from the very beginning. You know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: your your Kyle Beckerman and your Nick Romondo glory days
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: and the Nat Borcher's teams and all that stuff. Like
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: those guys wore the Claret and Cobalt and they it
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: was RSL, it was real Salt Lake, it was the Riot.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's all that stuff. It's not the Riot anymore. Right,
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: they renamed the stadium, I think it. I think they
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: said they're still gonna use it as a nickname.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: But yeah, the name of.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense with Rio Tinto came from Riot.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: So look and and these are one. These are some
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: of the things that like, I probably get hypocritical on
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: this because I am very very anti change when we're
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: talking about heritage brands, right, I never want to see
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: the Yankees.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: In a blackout uniform.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I don't even care about the Yankees, but I just like,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: you gotta respect certain traditions and I know that like
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Alabama doesn't mess with their uniforms. I hate when Notre
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Dame does that. Does the Shamrock series can't stand it, don't.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Like the green. Is that what you're saying. I don't
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: even like the green, you know what?
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I especially don't like I especially don't like that they
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: went with the hyper reflective shiny gold helmet. It used
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: to be a matt gold for a thousand years, Notre
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Dame football had that look, and now it's like very
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: very chromish.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: I don't like that, Okay, not even touching the drastic
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: change to the to the Irish, the fighting Irish logo.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: The fighting Irish is now the running Irish.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: They took away the old school fisticuffs pose of the Leprechaun.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: It's silliness, all right.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: So I don't like rebrands when we're talking about long
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: standing heritage brands. RSL does not check that box for me,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: that it's a long standing heritage brand that you can't
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: mess with for me, you can for me, I think
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: that something that is more appropriate to our market, something
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that is more appropriate to our state than real Salt
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Lake than real we're copying Al Madrid. I would be
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: fully on board with all of that. Doesn't mean you
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: have to be, but you could share your thoughts with
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: the Miller Entertainment Group, Miller Sports Entertainment via the survey
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: and please respond to my survey as well. Part of
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: my affection for this idea is because I thought the
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: process of naming the Utah Mammoth was actually a lot
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: of fun. I thought the community engagement. I thought that
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the debate back and forth. I thought that the people
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: coming up with names I hated was fun. I thought
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: the people coming up with names I liked was fun.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I was all in on certain things and all out
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: on other things. The YETI was like everyone loved YETI.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I wasn't huge into YETI, but Yedi was gonna be
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: way better than like Blizzard. YEDDI definitely was way better
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: than Wassatch. I thought YETI was better than Outlaws. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: then Mammoth came along and I'm like perfect boom done.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: So that process you would be replicated again with Real
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: salt Lake. But there I acknowledge that there are thousands
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: and thousands of people in this market that are like,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: no man rsl is aur thing.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: We don't want it to change, we don't need it
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: to change. We love Real salt Lake.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe at the start, it was a clunky fit because
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: it was that copycat. As MLS was launching and trying
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: to get traction, and like now, I think MLS has
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: done a really good job of unabashedly differentiating from European clubs,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: of having certain teams that are not So and so FC,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: that are not Sporting Kansas City type like where you're
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: just you're just I mean, you can just name a
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: soccer team whatever you want.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: You can do that. If you're in the ownership group.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: You want to respond to the fans, you could just
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: create a cool brand, whether you want to kind of
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: copycat what European soccer is doing or not.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: You don't have to name your team after Tottenham.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. We'll see what RSL ends up doing
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: with this thing. But I got I got a couple
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: of text messages about it this morning, and I'm intrigued
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: by this, this rebrand process. Also RSL dot com if
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: you want to watch RSL's first two games from Portugal
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: tomorrow at nine am, next Monday at seven am, obviously
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: those are your local times. I'm not playing at seven
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: am in Portugal.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: Is that?
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I guess that's not part of the MLS season pass package.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Is that why you got to go to oursl's website
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: instead of If you're an Apple subscriber.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I assume that's why I always I never really know
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the reasons why certain things are found in certain places.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: It's it feels like it's.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: It's a little more simple, or it's a lot more
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: simpler with like NFL and NBA games than than some
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: other leagues. But yeah, you find this from time to
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: time where it's like, oh, interesting this is I know
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: it's preseason, not regular season, so maybe that's it. Maybe
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Apple Season Pass is only a regular season thing. I'm
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: not sure. Maybe one of our listeners who's big RSL
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: fan or soccer fan can educate us on that. I'm
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: trying to think of what I would name the soccer
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: team because if they if they decide that they're going
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: to rebrand, right, they've got to come up with You
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: can't just say, hey, write in your ballots, tell us
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: what you want. There will be that option, But there
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: are millions of people in this Salt Lake City metro.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: You got to try and narrow it down the way
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: that the Utah Mammothy with a vote, and you gotta
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: probably put some things forward. There's always the question of
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: will you totally rebrand change colors, will you keep the
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: colors change the name, will you incorporate new logos.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I've never been a huge fan of what you've got
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: from a branding standpoint, even when the team is the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: best and fun to watch and you had some of
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: the best in MLS. I was always like, this would
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: be better if they were in cooler uniforms with a
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: different name.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: I I think the color scheme is fine or have
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: you always said a little bit of problems color scheme
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: and it's just not my favorite.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: The only thing I really have any sort of grievance
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: against is that you just copied Real Madrid.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: When they when they set down that that MLS, that
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: first and second crop of MLS teams, they were just like,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: just adopt a European brand and try to piggyback.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: And I was like, what And I believe I believe
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: Dave check It's and Spence can Spence can help us
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: with this? Obviously, I believe Dave Checkett, Spence's father, the
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: founder of RSL. Obviously I believe he did strike some
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: kind of unofficial like sister club partnership, you know, like
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: a year about sister cities around the world. Real Madrid
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: was not like in a there's nothing like official partnership
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: with Real Madrid, but he made it sort of like
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: a sister city, sister club to RSL, and they they
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: flew out. I believe Beckham was on the team at
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: that time and a bunch of other you know, all
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: time great players. They flew him out, put them up
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: in the Grand America, had him be part of the
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: groundbreaking of Rio tinto Stadium now America First Field, just
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: really quickly all put it together. I think cam Ronnie
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: did a great I think it was him that did
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: a great story in The Athletic about it a few
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: years ago. But I believe that's where the real Salt
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Lake came from. Was this like sister club partnership that
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: I think Real Madrid was like, Oh, you're gonna pay
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: for us to go out there. I guess fine, which
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: that was the impression I got reading between the lines.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: It makes sense from a New League standpoint, just be like, hey,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: let's trick people into buying real Salt Lake stuff and
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: thinking it's.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Real Madrid stuff, or like borrowing off of credibility of
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: other great clubs the same sport you're trying to establish.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I guess it kind of makes it. Maybe we can
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: get Dave check It's on to tell us exactly how
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: it went. But I think there's been plenty of rebrands
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: in MLS soccer. So the New York Red Bulls started
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: out as the New York New Jersey Metro Stars.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Yikes, I actually didn't know that. I thought it might
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: have been Red Bulls the whole time.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, the Sporting Kansas City, right was the Kansas City. Whiz,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: that's right. The Wizards sporting case is Kansas City. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: feel like was a they leveled up with that. The
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Dallas Burn, the original Dallas franchise was the Dallas Burn.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Now they're just FC Dallas.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: The Quakes were originally San Jose Clash, So look, yeah,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: they've some of them have changed.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: DC United is another one.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, it works fine, it's great, but like,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: you know what, here's how you can do it if
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: you want to make it still have some European connection, right,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Like Manchester City is a big time club in Europe now.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I think always was. But they're back near the top. Right.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Just call it Salt Lake City Salt Lake City and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: it'll be like, wait, did you just name it? The
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: city or are you saying it's salt Lake City, or
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: you could do it like it's where it's where Utah
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: City and'd be like, wait, the new subdivision out in Vineyard.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like Utah City.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: I was on board with you, but now I'm seeing
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: how confusing it could be. Now, if you're gonna do
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: salt if you're gonna do salt Lake salt Lake City,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: then you need to you need to put that little
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: pause into it, salt Lake City, salt Lake hyphen city
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: and say it cool salt Lake City, what about city
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: salt Lake?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Just really mess with people city, salt Lake, FC, salt Lake.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Or there's plenty of European clubs that it's just like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: a name that nobody knows where it came from. We
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: don't know why it's called that, And you're just like Tottenham,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's what we just that's what we call it, Hotspur.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: What's up like like ix Ajax is what it looks
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: like the Netherlands club that probably means something in Dutch.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Just start throwing stuff out there, Just put it down,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: make it confusing, like a lot of those European clubs.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: About how about MT FC is in Mountain. There you go,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: we're getting back into the mountains thing. I don't know. No,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: I'm totally on board with the rebrand. I think that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: it's become an established thing to where it's not I didn't.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily. I wasn't necessarily like you or wherever
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: thought it was that weird. But if anyone anyone had that,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: I think, I think we're to the point where it's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: been established long enough that it's it's probably vast majority
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: of people it's not weird as weird as they initially
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: thought it would be. They initially may have thought it was.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm on board with the rebrand. I think I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: think keeping Clared in Cobald it's fine as far as
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: the as far as the colors, because that's become an
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: unofficial nickname of the club too, like as is the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: case for a lot of soccer clubs around the world,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: they say the Up the Reds right with Liverpool, they
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: identify and by their color as much as by their name.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: So I think keeping Cleared in Cobald Is would be
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: a good thing to do. But Chane maybe not be
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: real Salt Lake anymore. Don't Okay, So, of the here's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: a fun quiz question for you.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Of the current thirty MLS teams, how many are just
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: called the city FC, like that city and football club?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: How many teams don't.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Really have a moniker at all, it's just football club
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: of their particular city. Take a crack at that one
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: in MLS and MLS and how many clubs did you
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: say they are? There's thirty, there's thirty probably a third
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: of them. Ten six, seven, eight, six, nine, there's nine,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: there's nine, okay, with and that's with Like, so the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: it's Houston Dynamo FC, It's Chicago Fire FC. I'm just
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: talking about it's just the name of your city. There's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: two unit it's there's Atlanta United, There's DC United. You've
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: got inter Miami, which again just a cheap knockoff.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Of Inter Milan. Why, okay, I don't like that. You've
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: got You're gonna have to ask David Beckham about that one.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: You've got Saint Louis City, You've got Nashville SC instead
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: of FC. You've got Seattle Sounders, Vancouver white Caps. But
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: there's like, there's San Diego. What's the name of your team?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: It's just San Diego, Austin, it's just Austin. Cincinnati, it's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: just Cincinnati.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: It's Dallas.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: We already mentioned FC Dallas, Charlotte FC, Toronto FC, Saint
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Louis City.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I guess they added the city in there. We could
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: do that with Salt.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: Lake, but I mean, come on, that works. That works
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: with soccer, like it doesn't work with any other sport.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Just remember what they thought about doing that with the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: hockey team. Yeah, Utah Hockey Club and like, let's just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: make this permanent. I was like, ooh, it was a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: great it was an awesome holdover name, launched the franchise name.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have liked it if it stayed that way.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: It just doesn't a lot of soccer fans. And I'm
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: not saying people in this market necessarily, but a national show.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Seaton O'Connor, for example, on the Dan Patrick Show, one
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: of the Dan Ets. He's a big soccer fan. If
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: you listen to the show seven to ten here on
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: ESPN seven hundred ninety two ONEFM, you know that he
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: likes to bring up Premier League and MLS stuff whenever
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: Dan allows him to. And he was all about Utah
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: Hockey Club and I think it's because he likes the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: simplicity of the soccer names of soccer club names, which
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: that's fine. I thought it was decent enough, even though
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: it's against the tradition of hockey and the other North
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: American sports. I thought it was a decent enough thing
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: to keep if they if that had decided to be
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: the permanent name. But it just it's not outside of soccer,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: and probably a lot of rugby clubs around the world
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: just we don't do that here, So it just doesn't
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: It doesn't sound right.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: This is a weird feeling to it, but in soccer
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: it doesn't have a weird feeling to it. Here's a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: This is a good point brought up by Derrek Hewitson
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: on the text line. Even if they change it, I'm
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: still calling the team RSL, same thing with the Jazz.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: You changed the name, I'm still calling it what I've
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: always called it. I'd never stopped calling the Delta Center
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: the Delta Center when it was Energy Solutions and Vivin
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I just so that could happen. If you're going to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: rebrand RSL, you might have to drop the reale but
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: make it an R name.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: So that it's still RSL Red Salt Lake. You know
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: how much better I would like that than real salt Lake.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: James, you just solved the problem for red salt Lake,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: red salt Lake, and you could still say it could
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: still is.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Excuse me, I'm showing my ignorance here. As far as
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: colors goes, Claret is the red color. Yes, cobalts. Okay,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: it could still be a claret red, and so you
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: could still call it. You could still Claire Cobalt all
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: day long if you want. But it's red salt Lake.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: It's beautiful, as you know why it's so great. You
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: can adopt any mascot you want. You still you still
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: like the lion weird looking redhead. You don't have sewn white?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Sewn white?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: What's the carrot top when they's some kind of flying
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: tomato ol carrot top? Guys, James, you just solve the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: re problem. It's red salt Lake.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Okay. You do like a viral marketing campaign. This is beautiful.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Here's ain't the mountains red in your in your AI cool?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: You go out to the salt Lakes, to the actual
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: great Salt Lake. Yeah, red light blood and you just
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: turn it red with some weird filter Red Salt Lake
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: like the not like what Moses did to the Nile
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: of Blood. I mean, come on, James, you just solved
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: the problem for all of us. Rayal Salt Lake is
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: now Red Salt Lake r s L. You keep it
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: the same, Go to the survey and ride it in. Baby,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Let's go and be sure to put dash James Peterson.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: James Peterson gets free season tickets for solving the problem
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: for everyone.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't care. I don't. I don't care about
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: the credit. You all can take your own credit. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: thought you were gonna say, I don't care about the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: season tickets. Like no, no, I'll get no. I'll take
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: the season tickets.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: I love a live sporting event, even though I'm not
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: necessarily a soccer fan, I'll do any sporting event live.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: It's those are always fun, and I'll probably be I'd
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: probably become a lot more of a soccer fan.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Uh Tyson hartis, Can we've trade the soccer franchise for
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: a baseball team?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: You don't have to.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think we just have to wait it out
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: with the baseball. But if that's what it takes, I'd
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: be on board for that. Everyone would except for Hey,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: not everyone. We got to acknowledge there are a lot
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: of die hard RSL fans. Shout out Andy Larson, by
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, that's probably that would be really upset
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: if they left and we and for those for that reason,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: we should do everything we can't. We're going to be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: able to get both, all right.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: I think I just want the rebrand so we can
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: do another survey and we can do another That name's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: not gonna work.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: Come on, is this by the way, I saw the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: press release? Interesting, it doesn't seem to be a Qualtrics survey. Well,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: it looks like it's a different company survey.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: It's like the knockoff brand of Qualtricks. Is what's going
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: on with the Millers and Ryan Smith?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Are we manufacturing a beef right now? Are the Millers
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Matt at Ryan Smith? Do they refuse to support his
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: startup company that made him the sports billionaire?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: And maybe it is a Qualtricks But the the URL
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: does not say qualterricks dot com.
• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:40
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• 1:09:43
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• 1:09:45
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  Speaker 3: We have people texting in ideas for the Salt Lake,
• 1:10:39
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  Speaker 3: James, your we decided your wife has adopted the Buffalo Bills.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: It's her favorite team. Is that right? Yes?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: She has she and and she is with Joshi through
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: this hard time. Okay, I don't like I don't like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: the Joshi thing. Our listeners do not either, we've gotten
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: some text about that.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: My question is how is she feeling today that the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: owner answered questions about firing Sean McDermott and basically said,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: I started thinking about this when our team lost to Denver.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: You have clips. Let's play these clips.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Sometimes being an owner is best done very, very silently.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Go ahead and play.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: My decision to bring in a new coach was based
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 8: on the results of our game in Denver. I want
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: to take you in the locker room after that game.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: I looked around. First thing I noticed was our quarterback
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: put his head down crying. I looked at all the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: other players. I looked at their faces and our coaches.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: I walked over to josh He didn't even acknowledge I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: was there. First thing I said to him, I said,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: that was a catch. We all know what I'm talking about.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 8: He didn't acknowledge me. He just sat there sobbing. He
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: was listless. He had given everything he had to try
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: to win that game, and looking around, so did all
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: the other players on the team.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: I saw the pain.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: In Joshu's face at his presser, and I felt his pain.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: I know we can do better, and I know we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: will get better.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: First of all, Terry Pegoula, I hate the sound of
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: your voice, all right, cannot cannot stand the way that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: you talk. That's neither here nor there. You know why
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: your quarterback was so devastated not because he's poorly coached.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: It's because he's one of the most talented players in
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: all of football right now, and he turned the ball
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: over a bunch of times in.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: A close game and lost.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: And if you're wondering that, mister Pula, if you're wondering
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: about that, all you have to do is listen to
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: what he said, what Josh Allen said in the postgame podium.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: He said, I feel like I let the team down.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: He's he's upset about the loss. Yes, he's disappointed about
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: the loss, but he's mostly disappointed about the loss because.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: He felt like it was his fault and he had right.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: He had a good reason for that.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Is this the first time that Terry put has walked
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: into a locker room after a loss and seen people
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: that are disappointed and emotional. So he's like, I have
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: to do something about this. Here's the thing with sports man,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: When you lose, it hurts. It sucks, especially when it's
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: a loss that ends your season, especially when it's a
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: loss that ends a season where you know you probably
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: could have achieved more, and when the expectation because your
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: team is really good and is well coached. You've gotten
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: to a point now where expectations are not just making
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: it to the playoffs, not even making it to an
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: AFC championship. You got to get to the super Bowl.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: You got to win a super Bowl. You've already checked
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: so many of these boxes. Is this the first time
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: an owner has walked in and just been like, Oh, wow,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: these guys are sad. I better fix this for them.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: How can I fix it? I better fire the coach now. Look,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: make the case however you want that it was time
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: for this person to go. When when Bashati, the Ravens owner,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: sat down and addressed the media and talked about the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: decision to fire John Harbaugh and to move on from
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, he was asked about, Hey, if that kick
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: had gone in, how much longer does Harbaugh get to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: keep his job? And he was like, well another week.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Probably he had already made the decision. It was not
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: an emotional decision for the Raven's owner. And whether or
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: not it's going to be viewed as the right decision
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: by history I'm skeptical of, but at the very least
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: he was not like I felt bad about a single
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: loss and then I decided we need to fire this guy. Now,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: McDermott doesn't have the credentials, the cachet that Harbaugh does.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: So it's not a perfect comparison or a perfect analogy here.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: But what we're looking at is an owner, a billionaire.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: These guy's were ten billion dollars.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Who's like, I just made a rash, emotional decision. Is
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: that what you're asking? And they're like, uh, yeah, we
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: were wondering if that were the case, and you just
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: admitted yes, And I see, I'm not.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not because it's not surprising to me that after
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: another playoff disappointment for Buffalo that this time around they're
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: gonna blame it on the coach because you're not gonna
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: trade Josh Allen yet. Maybe at some point they do. Sure,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: but you're not gonna trade Josh Allen yet. You already
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: changed offensive coordinators not that long ago.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Remember when Ken.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: Dorsey threw a fit and broke everything in the press box,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: and then a couple weeks later they decided Joe Brady
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: needed to be needed to be the guy like they
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: already did that.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: That was what two years ago.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: You're not gonna Sean McDermott's not gonna be able to say,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: you know what, it's not me and my defense's fault,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: it's the offense. He's not able to do that again,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: and it clearly is the weak link on that team
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: is the defense. So it's not surprising me. So I'm
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: I would believe that he's saying it the wrong way
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: and making it sound like this was not something he
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: would He and Brandon Bean weren't already contemplating all season long,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: even though it seems like, of course they were contemplating
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: it all season long, because who else do you get
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: rid of in this case other than trading everyone around
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: and releasing everyone around Josh Allen, I suppose as far
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: as the players go, and it was the time when
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: the when it kind of unfortunately for Sean McDermott kind
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: of felt like it was the time if there was
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: another playoff disappointment for him to.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Go uh play.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: The Keon Coleman SoundBite from again Bill's owner talking about
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: a specific player here and the draft process of how
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: they ended up with Keon Coleman, who had a disappointing year.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, can I interrupt, I'll address the Keon situation. Uh,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: the coaching staff pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 8: That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 8: of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: And you know he's taken for some reason heat over
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: it and not saying a word about it.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 9: But I'm here to tell you the true story.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: So Coleman catches a pretty nasty stray here, and there's
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: a conversation about whether or not the Bills have drafted
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: well enough to surround Josh Allen with the talent that
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: he needs. Only two of the guys that they've drafted
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: since drafting Josh Allen have become Pro Bowlers.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: There's this, but it's not like they haven't tried.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: There's been nineteen receivers either signed as free agents or
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: drafted in that time.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: And to be Keon Coleman and to be like, WHOA
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: why is this about me? You fired a coach when
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: he he had a really nice Was this his third
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: year in the league. I think he got capped it
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: in twenty four. Yeah, so yeah, second year in the league,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: it'd be going into his third year, going in.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: His third year.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: He had a pretty nice rookie year, not like number
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: one wide receiver, pro even Pro Bowl type stuff, but
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: enough where you're like, yeah, they made a good decision here.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: He regressed in his second year. That happens with a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: lot of players. By the way, doesn't mean that Keon
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: Coleman should be completely written off. But also I mean
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: it's fair to criticize his play, but not in this setting,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: like what's going on here?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, so let this be a lesson to everyone
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: under the sun.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Keon Coleman in the game against the Broncos, one catch
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: for ten yards and it was a touchdown catch. Okay,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: when you are supreme leadership, top level leadership in a
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: sports organization, call it a pro organization.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: College sports are pro organizations.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Whatever the granular minutia, the roster stuff is not yours
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: to comment on. If you have people underneath you hired
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: to handle those things. If you're Jerry Jones, you got
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: to answer those questions because you refuse to give the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: to delegate the responsibility to other people. If you are
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: an owner, who is I decided to fire this coach
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: because we lost that playoff game? Yikes, buddy, Leave it
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: at that. That's yikes enough. That's an emotional decision you're
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: admitting to it's your team. You can do whatever you want.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: By the way, all the other coaches in the league
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: are having to look at this, whether they think that
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: they could do a better job with the Buffalo Bills
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: or not. They're looking at that and going like, do
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: I not want to work as Josh Allen's coach now?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: Because this owner is such a weirdo, such a wild card.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Why is he talking about players on the roster? Why
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: is he burning a bridge with a talented guy who
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: has not yet lived up to that talent and throwing
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: him under the bus. Do not get involved in the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: minute she don't talk about it, don't tweet about it, don't.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: Put people on blast. Leave it alone. When you are
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: the boss, you're the top of the ladder.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: You have delegates, you have layers of insulation between you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: and that kind of failure and that kind of success.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: If you're the owner and Keon Coleman ends up being
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: the best player in the history of the NFL.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: You don't get to say that was my call, that
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: was my thing, that's what I wanted to do.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: You can praise your GM for doing it right, you
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: can praise your coach for pushing for it, but you
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: don't go, you know what, that one was not the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: GM's fault.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: That was the coach's fault. What are you doing? And
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: you got like, Brandon Bean is right there next to you.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: He's a big boy. He can he can answer for this.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: He guess what. As the GM, he should and.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: Is willing to take the responsibility, whether it was at
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: the behest of the coaching staff or not. Those are
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: his draft picks.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: And but and you're just you're obviously as the owner,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: you're just like to mine.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: Not.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: He wasn't asked directly about Keon Coleman before he brought
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: that up.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: No're just like, well, Kean, as it worked out, that
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: wasn't Bean's call.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, no, don't mention, don't talk about that.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Well, and Brandon Bean he's making I mean, I would
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: not be surprised that Brandon Bean has his feeling a
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: certain way about that too, because now he's giving off
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: the impression that Brandon Bean is the kind of boss
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: that doesn't want to take responsibility for things that are
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: ultimately his call, even if it was at even if
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: he's just relenting to what the coaching staff wants, in
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: this case, it's still ultimately his call. No nobody wants
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: the boss that says, hey, even though I allowed that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: to happen, I'm not going to take responsibility for it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: So he's he's he's putting his new president of football
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: operations in a bad way too.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: It's just an odd look. It's an odd sound. Back
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: up from the microphone a little bit. We don't need
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: to hear your mouth noises in your breathing, and don't
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: admit that you're making even if you do make emotional
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: decisions that is your right, is the owner. It's not
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: a good look to be like. I started thinking about
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: firing this guy after we lost to the Broncos in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: what was a razor thin tight playoff game, by the way, which.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: By the way, you admitted that it probably hung on
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: a in your opinion, bad call, which that's your opinion,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: that is not fact. By the way, it was the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: right call, but in your opinion a bad call. You
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: admitted that it was that razor thin and that like
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: he needed to he needed to be we were. We
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: knew going into this season if we had another playoff disappointment,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: we would we would need to consider making a change.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: That's what he needed to say. Instead, he made it about.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: He made it sound like it was an emotional thing. Ridiculous.
• 1:24:17
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• 1:24:20
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• 1:24:23
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• 1:24:27
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  Speaker 3: You've been driving around, you've seen the truck with the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: duck any probably? Oh yeah, I got to get that
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: water here, looked at I've been thinking about it. Getting
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: a tank liss in something like that. Well, now, Valley
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Plumbing also handles HVAC, so if you got a plumbing
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: issue drain cleaning issue, the truck with the duck could
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: take care of you there. If you're worried about your furnace,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: you haven't had to use it that much this year,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: for being honest, you could still get that thing tuned
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: up and checked out while it's not humming necessarily, and
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Valley Plumbing could take care of that too. Rob from
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Valley Plumbing is here in studio with us. Welcome back, sir,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: how are you.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 9: I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for having me here.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: So I asked you off air. You know, how's the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: rollout gone?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: When you're a company that's so like dialed in on plumbing,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: there's a risk associated with opening a new section of
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: the of your services to HVAC, and I imagine there's
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: challenges with it.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: But you guys are already humming along.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 9: You know it is going. I think we made some
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 9: good decisions at the start to get the right people
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 9: in to help. And I mean, honestly, I thought it
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 9: would be just like plumbing, you know, just the same old,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: same old I couldn't be more wrong. It's I mean,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 9: it's like black and white. It's a complete different thing
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 9: that a lot of headaches. But you know, people do
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 9: know how to do it, and I think we've got
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: the right people, which is I mean, we've been growing
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 9: and growing and growing, and we're about to hire another person.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 9: So I mean it's gone from zero to almost four
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 9: within a couple of you know, with a month, month
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 9: and a half.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: And that's I mean kind of off peak because of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: how the weather's been.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you would think, okay, if it was freezing cold,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 9: everybody's using their systems. Yeah, you know, they're just calling
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 9: whoever can come out. But right now that's not the case.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 9: I mean, I haven't used my system at all this year,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: occasionally Toronto Fireplace. But but then again, that is the problem,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: right It's a lot of people are starting to realize
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: that now is the time to get their systems, you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 9: tuned up. It's it's now that they can get in
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 9: because if all of a sudden we have a cold snap,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 9: they're gonna call and hey, you know, we're gonna get
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: to you as fast as we can. But we got
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 9: you know, days out.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's a bunch of people calling having that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: same problem. So now's a good time, all right, enjoy
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: the beautiful weather, unseasonably warm, but also don't just take
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: it for granted that that furnace is gonna fire up
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: nice and easy.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: Check your filters, do all that stuff.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: And look, there are a lot of us out there
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: who are just not exactly Bob vila handyman when it
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: comes to things like plumbing at home, things like working
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: on our own stuff. And that's why we have to
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: call Valley Plumbing, because I do more damage than I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: could do help for myself.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 9: No, I'm with you, and I promise you I'm like
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 9: every other plumber out there. I don't even do my
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: plumbing in my own house. You know, my last house
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 9: or air conditioners stopped working. We had no idea what
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: was going on? And oh wait, there's that filter? What
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 9: what's that? Where is it? I had no idea. The
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 9: whole system froze up because I didn't know I had
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 9: to replace a filter.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: So don't feel bad because even people in the industry
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: are making some of those mistakes. But get it checked
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: out right now. What's the best way to get hold
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: of Valley Plumbing.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 9: You can call us at eight oh one three four
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 9: one four two two two, or you can go online
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: at www Dot Valley Plumbing dot com.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: So we were talking earlier today about the schedule release,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: the Big twelve football schedule release for next year, Utah
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: BYU being played in Week ten instead of end of
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: the season in Rivalry Week. I got a big problem
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: with it. It's obviously the biggest game of the year
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: every year on the Utah slate. I think it's the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: best sports day on our calendar. Doesn't matter what the
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: Jazz or the Mammoth or anyone's doing. Utah BYU football
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: game is like a holiday here in the state. I
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: just wanted to get your thoughts on the fact that
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: the Big Twelve hasn't fully bought into that yet.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 9: It seems no, But honestly, I think they they put
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 9: it a little bit earlier then obviously you of you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: when they lose, they have time to recuperate before you know,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 9: the playoffs or a bowl game. So I think that's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 9: a good thing for them.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: You fans not loving that.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: We talked about the HVAC the plumbing situation right now
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: where I mentioned it as you were coming in you've
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: got your traditional water heaters. Most of us grew up
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: with that system, and now the tankless is for a
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: lot of people a really good option. But there's a
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: lot of questions about the efficiency of it the cost
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: of it. Are there ways if it's too expensive for me?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Can I finance these things? If I wanted to go tankless,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: can Valley Plumbing help me out?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 9: Oh? Absolutely, And I'll be the first to tell you
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 9: it's not for everybody. If you think that it is
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: endless hot water, yes you are correct. But if you
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 9: think it's endless hot water and it's going to save
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 9: you a lot of money, you are very wrong because
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 9: if you use the endless hot water, you are going
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: to pay a lot of money to heat that thing.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 9: But if you are somebody that travels a lot, if
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: you are somebody that has a fluctuation of how many
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 9: people are there. One day you have five, next day
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 9: you have ten, a tankless water heater is great because
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 9: it can fluctuate with the load of people that are showering,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 9: or if you leave town for a month. The greatest
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 9: part about a tank list is you pay nothing to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 9: heat that while you're gone, where a normal water heater.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 9: You would pay all month to heat that whether you
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 9: use it or not. So there is definitely some huge benefits.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: And yes it is a greater upfront investment compared to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 9: a standard water heater where you pay a little more upfront,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 9: but there's still is rebates through therm and places like that.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 9: But if you take care of the tank list you
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 9: do it right, they can last almost twice as long
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 9: as a tank water heater as well, so over time
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: it pays for itself.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: Reasons to look at it, reasons to maybe stick with
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: your current system. One thing I hate to admit this,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: all right, my wife for the longest we got a
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: house in the avenues. The water's pretty hard up there.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: She was just like, we are killing our fixtures. We're
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: killing our plumbing fixtures, our appliances by not having a
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: water softener in here. And I'm just like, I don't
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: we're talking about I'm a cave man. I don't need
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: soft water. She's like, stop, we have to get a
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: water softener. So I waited too long. We had, you know,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: build up on the shower heads and all that kind
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: of stuff. Hopefully didn't do any damage to my dishwasher,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: my washing machine things like that. But softening the water
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: sometimes it's necessary here with certain municipalities in the water
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: we got.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 9: You know, I grew up drinking from a hose. I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 9: love the taste of plastic, a little bit of warm water,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 9: and those minerals, I think they're good for you. But
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 9: if you don't want to have to constantly replace your fixtures,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: your water heater or your faucets, you have to do
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 9: some kind of filtration, and the best kind of filtration
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 9: up here is water softeners. Now, I think that I'm
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 9: being a very bad business person by telling you to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 9: put in a softener, because then you don't have to
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 9: see me all the time. So if you would like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 9: to see us a lot, will be more than happy
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 9: to visit you every six months and replace stuff like
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 9: toilet's faucets, things like that, and then you don't have
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 9: to worry about a softener. But if you don't want
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 9: to see us all the time, which does hurt my feelings, yeah,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 9: a softener would be the way to go.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: If I need a gas line so I can put
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: in a gas log for my fireplace, I can call
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: you for that. Right absolutely, you are going to be
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: getting a call for me on that specific thing, because again,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: happy wife, happy life, all right, check off the honeydew list.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: That's one of those things I'm gonna need Value Plumbing
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: to help me out with. And the reason I brought
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: it up is because they can help you out with
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: just about everything under the sun you can imagine in
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: the plumbing and now the HVAC world, and probably a
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: lot of the stuff you don't know they do.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: They probably we do that as well.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 9: Yes, we also do a lot of things that people
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: don't understand is we do a lot of underground work
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 9: as well. Where your sewer line, your water line, it's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: got to go from the city to your house or
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 9: from your house out to the street. Run into a
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 9: lot of time, a lot of problems this kind this
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 9: time of year where trees aren't growing up, they're going down,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 9: they're growing into your sewer lines, they're breaking stuff like that.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 9: We do a lot of that work right now.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: No joke. I had a situation this summer.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: So we live up in our house is built like
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: nineteen sixty right, and stopping waste valve the one that
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: you got to turn your sprinkler key in normally that's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: six feet down or whatever. Ours is like ten inches
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: under the surface.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Oh good, So that's good for the frost and it
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know why it was built that way.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know who built it that way. And it's
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: also on an old galvanized pipe that's just rusted all
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: to hell.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: So, there was a youngish guy in the neighborhood doing
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: sprinkler work and I was walking my dog and was like, Hey,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: could you come look at this for me? I don't
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: know if it's gonna be a problem whatever. He dug
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: the whole thing out, and he was like, I'm not
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: gonna lie. And I appreciate him being honest, because that's
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: not always the case. He says, I'm not gonna lie
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: to you. I can't handle this. I don't know how
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: to handle this. You need to get a real plumber
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: out here. So sometimes you think you're doing yourself a favor,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: you're saving yourself money, you're saving yourself time or whatever
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: by going with the neighbor kid who does the sprinklers
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And a lot of times you
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: need people who really know the business to do that
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: big heavy work, especially that underground stuff.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 9: And we have an entire division that that's all they do.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 9: You know, they don't do inside plumbing, they don't do
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 9: heating and air conditioning. The only thing they do is
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 9: underground all day long, sewer and.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Water valley plumbing. The truck with the duck give us
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• 1:34:50
  Speaker 9: It's eight oho one three four one four two two two.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: They can take care of all of it for you
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: and then some give him a call if you need
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: any help with your plumbing, your hvac. Weirdly enough it's January,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: but you could still work on the sprinklers. They can
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: do it all right now, the grounds not froze up,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: beautiful outside all.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: Right, Lots left to get to.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: On the Sean O'Connell Show, it's ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ninety two one FM.
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  Speaker 4: That's me and Connor that.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: You were listening to about Sean O'Connell show. Your source
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: for the best huts football couple of each. Here's oc
• 1:35:23
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• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: Look on the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: Most of the time we're not gonna talk about acc
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: quarterback transfer things unless that guy is headed to the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Big Twelve headed to the University of Utah or BYU,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: or if he's maybe leaving one of those schools to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: go to the ACC. But this Darien Mensa thing from
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: Duke is really interesting. So there's an injunction right now.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: He's allowed to enter the transfer portal. He can't commit anywhere,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: so he can just say I'm in the transfer portal
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: as Duke is suing him for breaking his contract and
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: seeking a restraining order to where he cannot be negotiating
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: with other teams and he cannot be doing the whole
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: transfer portal thing. Now, why does this matter to Utah?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: Why does this matter to be Yu? Why does this
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: matter to the Big Twelve? Because very very similar to
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: the Demon Williams thing at Washington, contracts are signed, and
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: if you just don't decide that they're enforceable, you don't
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: decide that you can actually do anything. If somebody changes
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: their mind, then the contracts mean nothing in college sports.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: And already we are in. We've called it the wild West,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: we've called it a slippery slope, we've called it craziness,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: we've called it a mess.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: And we are already firmly in that two feet.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: In wallowing around trying to figure it out, wiping the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: mud away from people's faces.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, look, there's a little glimmer of hope.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Something cool can happen here if you get into a
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: situation and a precedent is established where somebody can be
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: offered five hundred grand, a million, two million, five million, whatever,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: and can sign and say yes, I will play here, Yes,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: I intend to be here for twenty twenty six. Yes
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: I want to be Yes, I'm quote unquote committed to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: use the old terms of college football and football recruiting.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: And then someone's just like, ah, I got a phone
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: call from a Miami booster that says I can be
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: committed there for another million dollars or another two million dollars,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: or for a boat or for whatever, And so I
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: have changed my mind. And now that signature doesn't mean anything.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: It's going to be much more of a mess than
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: any of us can even imagine. Like there will be
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: no one if you set that precedent now where these
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: contracts don't mean anything. We some lament the every year
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: free nature kind of free agency thing. It will be
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: every game. The slippery slope ends in a spot where
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: nothing is enforceable, where contracts don't mean a thing, where
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: commitments don't mean a thing, Where roster inclusion is just
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: like based on the whims of eighteen year old kids,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: and the weird agents that are only in it to
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: make money, don't have any interest in academic success, don't
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: have any interest in people graduating, don't have any interest
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: in people maximizing how many reps they get and making
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: sure that they're preparing themselves for the next level. If
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: that is even a realistic possibility, we all have to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: be emotionally invested in some of the outcomes here, even
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: if you are the most hardcore died in the world
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: player rights advocate, where you're like it is an absolute
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: atrocity that college sports were dubbed amateur for so long,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: and these athletes were beholden to a system that did
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: not take care of them, did not protect them, did
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: not Even if you hate that, you cannot want this
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: version of college football to be the norm where a
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Darien Mensa or a Demon Williams or a whomever, Where
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: a dare I say it, a Devin Dan Pierre could
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: sign a deal, announce that he has signed the deal,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: tell everyone he had signed the deal, Get everyone excited
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: about the fact that he had signed the deal. Get
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: a phone call from somebody else, like let's say Miami
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: or Indiana. Who now really has to wade into the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: transfer portal waters maybe a guy that they didn't expect
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: to leave Leeds right, and now they've got to backfill
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: that position. Now they're calling your guy. The transfer portals
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: closed for your guy. The transfer portal never should have
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: been a thing for your guy. Now they're calling, and
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: that thing goes, Oh wait, I can make more money there,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: all right, Now I've changed my mind. Changing your mind
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: is a part of growing up, it's a part of life.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: It's part But contracts are in place to prevent the
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: consequences of whimsical mind changing affecting those that you've made
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: agreements with. If I just tell you tomorrow that I
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: no longer care about what this contract says, I'm releasing
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: you from your responsibility of paying me my money, Duke,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: and Duke's like, great, thank you. We'd love to keep
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: the money, but actually we need your services, and that's
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: why we agreed to pay you the money.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: So we need you to stay in disagreement. No, no, no,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: I can't do it. Anymore.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: No, but you can't change your mind. We have to
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: sue you to tell you that you can't change your
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: mind on this contract. Well, but they're gonna give me
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: more money. We'll do what we can to meet you
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: in the middle, kid, but you sign this contract. It's
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact that the stance right now
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: with Utah football is you do not negotiate with terrorists.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: You do not ask you to entertain the ask of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: something that is beyond your current contract while you're under
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: the terms of your current contract. Because they do not
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: support the wild West, the lawlessness, the insanity, and Duke
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't either. Washington stuck their neck out for all of us.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Duke is sticking their neck out for all of us
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: by saying, hey, like, yes, player rights, advocacy for earning,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: But it has to stop at some point.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: And where we are going to draw the line is
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: you sign a contract with us, and now you're expecting
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: us not to enforce that contract. The thing that worries
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: me is that the NCAA's power here is dubious at best.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: The College Sports commissions power here is dubious at best.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: Judge end up having the ultimate power Judges are the
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: reason why we have this system in the first place,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: and if you turn it over to individual judges, there
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: could like, if you're Darien Mensa and you're willing to
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: stand on principle hard enough, I'm not going back to
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: Duke Well. The first judge says you have to you
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: sign this contract, fine, appeal in a different court in
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: a different spot.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: I need to be released from this.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: At some point, you're gonna find a judge who has
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: a beef with whatever, or is liberal enough for this
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: or is conservative enough for.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: That, that they're going to make a ruling in favor
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: of what you want.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: Judges have the power here, and it is dangerous for
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: the fabric of college football, for the fabric of American
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: sport as we know it. So I don't really give
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: a bleep where Darien Mensa plays football next year. I don't,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: but I don't want him to set a precedent or
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: he can sign a contract and get out of it.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: If this sounds like a rerun of what I said
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: when the Demand William situation was at hand, it's because
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: And spoiler alert, this will be my opinion the next.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: Time somebody does this and the next time somebody does this,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: and the next time somebody does.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: This, because if you allow precedent to be set.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: One thing we know about the American legal system is
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: once a court of law has determined that this thing
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: is okay, that this thing is legal, everybody else jumps
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: on board. It says all they did that I can
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: do it too. And the number one part of your
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: defense is, ah, well, in the case of Adrian Denny
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: versus James Peterson, it was ruled in favor that he
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: could break his contract.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: And now it's a mess of the highest.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: Order that that's that's absolutely false. So see Adrian Denny,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: we were holding him to every week Wednesdays. It won, Yes,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: Adrian Denny between the and if you're watching on YouTube,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: Adrian is awkwardly standing by behind me as we're talking
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: about him, behind.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: His atriots, just like, wait, you guys are getting you
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: guys are getting paid to be here. It's just like
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: I have to we give agement. We pay him in
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: breath mints.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, but the contract he signed, the contract, all right,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: he's got to stay.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: You met. Your opinion on this matters.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Your support of contracts being enforceable matters, because at the
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: end of the day, if Darien Mensa wins his case
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: and Darren Heidner is his lawyer, if they get him
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: out of this contract. By the way, Darren Heidner, University
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: of Miami guy. Shocking to anyone. No, the judge that
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: initially was going to rule on this case was a
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: Duke university season ticket holder in basketball and thereby could
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: be legally implied was a Duke booster and so had
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: to recuse themselves. This person, this judge, had to recuse
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: themselves from the case. So I can't because I'm a
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: Duke fan.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: That's how weird and messed up and strange and convoluted
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: this stuff is. But it matters to Utah, to BYU,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: to Utah State, to Southern Utah, to Weber, to everyone.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: If you are going to be in a world, don't
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: leave my trailblazers out U tut Sack, let's go.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: It does not matter to Utah Tech because they have
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: never signed anyone to an NL contract.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: How dare you that's probably not true.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's someone down there that's driving a free
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: car around from a Saint George auto dealership.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: It's got a really nice minivan. He's driving around and.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: Honestly, how upsetting would it be for Trailblazers fans out
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: there if that person was just like well, I was
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: told that if I transfer up to Murdoch Ford Santa
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: Quinn and go to BYU, they're gonna give me an
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: f one fifty instead.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: And I don't want this Minivanag'd be like what, No,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: you would riot.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: Contracts matter, dudes, ladies, gentlemen, people of all shaped, sizes
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: and colors.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: You can't support this level of freedom for college kids.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 8: You.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: I am all on board with them living the life
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: and learning the hard lessons. You can't be like, well,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: my son signed a contract without fully understanding that he
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: couldn't leave, so you have to let him out of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: the contract. Uh No, that's not how the real world
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: is going to work for him moving forward, ma'am sir,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: He's gonna have to do this thing. And now Duke's
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: in an absolutely terrible, untenable position where not only do
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: you have to try to reel this back in and
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: keep him or the best case scenario is you end
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: up letting him go. He has to pay damages, you
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: recoup whatever you lost. But guess what you don't have
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: you don't have a quarterback of his equal talent and production.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: Ouch enough, let's go between the pipes with Adrian Denny.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: Next we'll talk a little Utah Mammoth.
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  Speaker 4: Guess what. I didn't want to admit it before. I
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: don't want to admit now. But they're red hot. We're
• 1:47:19
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  Speaker 3: All right, Kate Madson, PBR bull Rider is going to
• 1:47:43
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• 1:47:46
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  Speaker 3: v Lux dealer, Adrian Denny, Mammoth Insider, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: What's up man? How's it going?
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 10: It's ready for Game seven to the home stand here,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 10: I'm it's been fifteen days already, I'm over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm especially excited for Game seven of the home stand
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: because the home stand has gone so swimmingly well for
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: this Utah Mammoth team.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: And I have to give you like I did last time.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: I have to give you credit. You said that you
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: know this was one or you could pile up some points.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: You talked about individual players being able to potentially round
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: into the proper form in this particular stretch of games,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how it could have gone much better.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: Your last three are pretty darn impressive. Six three, two
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: to one against the very tough Stars team, six to
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: one against the Maple Leafs. And you know, like you said,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: your your chances of emerging from this home stand with
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe winning five to seven, you already did.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I recalibrated my expectations after the two to one win
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 10: against Dallas, when the Mammoth had taken nine of a
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 10: possible ten points, and gone, what is it? Zero to
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 10: one to start the home stand, and like, okay, now
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 10: you've got day two games in seven days. You play
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 10: Seattle Saturday, you play Philly on Wednesday. One game at
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 10: a time. You can take thirteen of a possible fourteen
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 10: points here, And as you said, I would have been
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 10: happy with five and two. I think four to two
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 10: and one definitely would have got the job done. As
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 10: far as the big season picture for the mammoth, but
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 10: thirteen or fourteen points possible, a six to zero one
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 10: home stand, and they've put themselves in the first wild
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 10: card spot in the Western Conference. So it's been good.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 10: And OC it's it's funny. How you win that game
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 10: against Ottawa, it was a one goal game for twenty
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 10: two plus minutes. You win at three to one. You
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 10: play okay against Saint Louis Famelica was good. You lost
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 10: in overtime to Columbus, a game that's just kind of
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 10: a Sunday game. You come out, fall behind, ty, take
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 10: the lead, lead for a while, take some penalties, lose
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 10: game in overtime, get a point. And then last week
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 10: some some statement games. I thought, you never beat Toronto before,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 10: beat them six to one, beat down Us, never beat
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 10: them at home before, had lost four games to him
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 10: by a single goal. And then the game against Seattle
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 10: team wrapping up a trip, and you know, it had
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 10: some ups and downs, but but they they they took
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 10: it over late and six' three looked looked pretty good
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 10: on the. Scoreboard so week, one you're you're playing, Okay
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 10: you're you're winning some. Games last week some statement. Wins
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 10: it's it's always fun to see how when you're, winning
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 10: how you just kind of get better at winning as
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 10: things go along and beat better teams and and find
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 10: better ways to to win. Games AS i think they
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 10: have to start the home stand five zho and one
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 10: and go seven to one and one to Start.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: January WHAT u what was In Nate schmidt's coffee that
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: day of The kraken? Game two goals to assist big
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: time game for.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 10: HIM i was talking With matt, McConnell our television play
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 10: by play, announcer About nate, earlier and, gosh you knew
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 10: he was a good. Player you knew he was a great.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 10: Guy you knew he'd never have a bad, day you
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 10: knew he was a good, leader you knew he was
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 10: A State Ale cup, Champion mama son to a three year,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 10: Contract but holy, cow what he's. Done number one playing
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 10: defense for The mammoth with his Partner John, marino him
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 10: And John marino two of the top ten players in THE.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 10: Nhl and plus minus, rating which if you're on the
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 10: ice for a five on five goal you get a.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 10: Plus if you're on the ice for a five on
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 10: five goal, against you get a. Minus so you got,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 10: Him John marino seven members of The Colorado avalanche and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 10: one player From Tampa. Bay that's your top. Ten so
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 10: that's that's what kind of defense they've been. Playing and
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 10: in the last seven games of The, mammoth those two
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 10: have combined for three of the seven game winning.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: Goals schmid had the four point night On. Saturday he
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: was just involved in.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 10: Everything he had the puck right before something good happened
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 10: For utah every, time and on that game winning goal
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 10: that he scored in the final five, minutes him And
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 10: John marino were the only Two utah players on the.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 10: Ice there's Five seattle players in their defensive zone and
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 10: you've Got, Keller, Schmaltzon kraals just kind of hopping over
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 10: the boards to join the, guys And marino And schmid
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 10: are just kind of playing. Catch johnny dumped the puck,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 10: In schmidt went and got, it Found, keller and Then
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 10: schmidt goes out in front. Undefended and there was some
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 10: stuff that went wrong For seattle in that third, period
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 10: that's fair to, say but wide, open you got to
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 10: hit the. Net he did and gave The mamot the,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 10: lead and then last And, kraus just over forty seconds
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 10: later went to the same Spot keller found him. Again
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 10: so it was a nice game For, schmidt but strong.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 10: Defensively but, gosh when you have a d man who
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 10: has the instinct like that to read the play and
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 10: get pucks through and and he's talked about training the,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 10: forwards we're gonna get pucks. Through we got to have
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 10: them in front of a net to set screens and
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 10: knock loose bucks. Home so it's been a big part
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 10: of the homestand another you already mentioned another two assist
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 10: night For Clayton. Keller the captain has maybe more so than,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 10: ever embraced his role as a facilitator for his. Teammates
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 10: it's nice that you have you brought in some more
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 10: goal scoring this, year and you've got even With kooley,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 10: out you, know Gun th kind of rounding back into
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 10: what we saw in the best stretches from. Him is
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 10: this the most, sustainable best version Of Clayton keller for
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 10: the deep. Run i'm watching the game Against seattle On,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 10: saturday and, he's you, know possessing the puck and going
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 10: in and, out And i'm, thinking this is the kid
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 10: in junior, high all alone in his driveway that's going
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 10: between his. Legs he's papa. Shots he's all, alone he's
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 10: not being. Guarded he's got the time and space because
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 10: there's nobody else out.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: There you know What i'm.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 10: Saying when when you're out on the basketball floor all
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 10: by yourself and you're you're doing moves and you're trying stuff,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 10: out except he's doing it in AN nhl game with
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 10: five defenders on the. Ice and he's got nine assists
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 10: in six home games here on the homestands so. Far
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 10: eight of the nine have been primary, assists meaning the
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 10: last pass before the goal comes From Clayton keller to
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: the goal. Score and we talked about it last week
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 10: and it's continued into the second half of the homestand
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 10: in terms, of you, know just the the domination and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 10: just the way that he's able to to create. Stuff
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 10: and you, know guys like to shoot the, puck and
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 10: he's he's shot the puck a lot. Too he's got
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 10: such a hard slap, shot like it doesn't doesn't always
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 10: hit the, net but it's you retrieve the puck and
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 10: you still got it, offensively you can do other stuff with.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 10: It so he's he's got the passing, threat but he
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 10: can shoot, too and he's so crafty and creative and
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 10: his instinct for the, game and he plays with guys
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 10: Like Nick, smaltz who he's been with for almost a.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 10: Decade but you talk about predictability and the way that
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 10: he plays his teammates in addition To Nick schmaltz know
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 10: what he's looking for and what he wants to, do
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 10: and it's and it's led to.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: Success Adrian, denny our guest here on The shoan O'Connell
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: Show between The pipes with Our mammoth, insider what do
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: you expect Against philadelphia to close out this home?
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 10: STAND i think it's a trap. GAME i think game
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 10: seven of a homestand is you know another box you
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 10: need to. Check philly had lost six in a row
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 10: until they went Into vegas On monday night and snapped
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 10: their seven game winning streak with a two to one.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 10: Win they had two breakaway, goals their Goalie Samuel arrison
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: stopped twenty four to twenty. Five they killed over ninety
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 10: seconds down six on four at the end of the
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 10: game because they took a penalty late And vegas had
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 10: a two man advantage with their top five power play
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 10: and couldn't tie it. Up So philly has been in
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 10: a playoff spot throughout most of the season until the
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 10: last week and a. Half their their starting, Goaltender Dan
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 10: vladar has been. Hurt he's day to. Day he's not
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 10: going to play. Tonight he could Play friday In, colorado
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 10: but he's kind of been what has gotten the job
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 10: done For. Philly he's a goaltender that's going to be
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 10: on THE checki at national team With correl Vamelca phillies
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 10: seven ten and four when he's not in the lineup,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 10: sixteen seven and four when he does, Play so they've missed.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 10: Him they were outscored thirty one to twelve during that
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 10: stretch where they didn't win a game in.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: Six but.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 10: They've they've Got Rick tocket as their. Coach he's a
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: guy that a lot of These utah players have played for.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: Before they just always seem to be in it in a.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 10: Game in the, standings they win a lot of games to.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 10: One they're pretty dialed down in their system and their defensive.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 10: Structure So, PHILLIES i think exactly where we thought they'd.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 10: Be five games above five. Hundred they're three points out
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 10: of a wild card. Spot they have been in the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: top three in their metropolitan, division but dropped off With
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 10: Dan vladar getting. Hurt but these two teams played last
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 10: year As utah was wrapping up a home stand And
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: utah was behind two nothing for most of the.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: Game it felt like.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 10: Their their Goalie Samuel arson stop thirty eight to forty,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 10: one and it took some heroics From Dylan gunther and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 10: his first game back from an injury to win, it
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 10: as he did in. Overtime SO i think tough. Game
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 10: you want to finish the homestand how it's been for
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 10: the first Six but head Coach Andre turnity telling us
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 10: after the optional morning skate, today you, know everybody's, like
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 10: what's gotten good with?
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: You what's what's been?
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 10: Good and he's, like, well we've been really good at managing,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 10: games but we don't want this to be a.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: Spurt we don't want this to be a.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 10: Streak like good teams don't have to think about the
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 10: way that they go out and manage and maintain games
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 10: and play with leads and don't fall behind and and
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 10: just go about their. Business SO i think that is
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 10: now the next step for the MAN i we talk
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 10: about how they want to play manage, games play with the,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 10: lead not take penalties at bad, times not get scored
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 10: upon when you score a, goal not give up consecutive.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 10: Goals now it's, okay we've done, this so now let's
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: do it without thinking about it in terms of how
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 10: we go about our business every.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Day The flyers are also holding on fifty four points right,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: now right exactly where the mammoth.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: Are does that mean they're? Equals that, is this should
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: be like a nice little heavyweight.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: Fight THEY i know styles make, fights, right and it's
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: all about, matchups but are they roughly equally matched in your?
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 10: Mind the analytics say they are offensively, defensively and we
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 10: talk about analytics but don't always explain. It so what
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 10: we're looking at with The mammoth there is an analytic
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 10: called expected goals. Percentage so in a, Game utah's expected
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 10: goals percentage for the seasons like fifty four, percent meaning
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 10: that in a five on five game played on paper
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 10: with their numbers and their, opponent they're expected to score
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: fifty four percent of the. Goals oppositions expected to score forty.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: Six The mammoths analytics kind of match up expected goals
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 10: percentage versus goal Percentage phillies do. Two they're a tight defensive.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 10: Team their issues been their, Goaltending but AS i, said
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 10: they had goaltending issues last, year And Samuel arrison's top
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 10: thirty eight to forty. One he's gonna be in between
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 10: the pipes tonight for The. Flyers SO i would, say
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 10: are they, equal, no BECAUSE i Think utah is trending.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 10: UP i Think philly is probably where they're gonna stay
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 10: in the hunt for a playoff, position while The, MAMMOTH i,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 10: think coming out Of christmas and Into, january have started
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 10: to win games and be where they kind of expected
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 10: at this point of the, year knowing that they were
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 10: probably gonna be a five hundred team Through christmas And New.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: Year's so.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: All the hope is you finish out this home stand,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: correctly and then It's, Nashville, Tampa Florida, Panthers Carolina, hurricanes
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: all on the. Road so between now and the next
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: time we talk to, you they're gonna have This philadelphia
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: matchup and then three really tough one's on the. Road
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: same QUESTION i gave you for the home, stand what
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: do you need to see from a points accumulation standpoint
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: on this road?
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 10: Stretch so let's put it into a five game stretch including.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 10: Tonight all, Right so you gotta win. Tonight you're going To.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 10: Nashville that's A Central division team that's, chasing they're trying
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 10: to get above that playoff. Line that's a game you really.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 10: Want and then for, me win one of three In,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 10: Carolina Tampa bay And. Florida it's probably gonna Be carolina
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 10: because you're playing in a back to. Back Tampa. Florida
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 10: that's that's not. Easy that's like Going vegas To, Utah
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 10: Vegas colorado in terms of what we're used to Out west.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: On a back to.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 10: Back So tampa's the hottest team in the. League florida's
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 10: you know they're gonna get hot chuck. Back, yeah they're
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 10: not in the playoff picture, now but they're Always it's
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 10: a Team utah has never. Beaten so if you can
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 10: take one of, three hopefully Beat, nashville and move, FORWARD
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 10: i think that's. It if they take one game on
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 10: the four game, trip come back and finish strong going
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 10: into The olympics wouldn't surprise.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: Me speaking Of, florida we were treated to a rare goalie.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 3: Fight bob goes all the way across the ice to
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: get at The shark's.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: GOALTENDER i love. IT i love it when the goalies
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: mix it. Up you like it when they have fire right.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 10: Like and they didn't get kicked out of the game,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 10: Either they just got five minutes fighting. Majors, gosh it
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 10: Was Matthew kachuck's first came back With florida Playing San.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 4: Jose he was just so.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 10: Sneaky they had The Florida Tampa bay back to Back Monday.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 10: Tuesday they got smoked In Tampa bay last.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 6: Night.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah the backup goalie For San, Jose alex and The,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 10: dulkovich who's From. Michigan by the, way you're, like, oh
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 10: What Eastern european. From he's A US usa born and.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 10: Bred my favorite story about, him we're playing him in
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 10: THE el years. Ago we're In, florida he's in THE.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 10: Echl i'm with The grizzlies And Justin peters is starting
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 10: the game For florida and The florida broadcaster.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: Comes over to.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 10: Me he's, like just in case you need, it It's.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 10: NADELKOVICH i, said, well thanks, Anyway but we play it
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 10: one time And i'm not going to say his. Name
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 10: The grizzlies scored three goals in the first ninety seconds
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 10: of the. Game they're up three to. Nothing they Pulled
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 10: Justin peters Put Alex nadalkovich in and bless his, heart
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 10: he races over with a strip of paper and spells
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 10: it out, Fanatically Alex. Nadelkovich And i'm holding it up
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 10: the entire game every TIME i said his, name save By.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: Nadelkovich that's.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 10: AWESOME a little behind the, scenes, right SO o, SEE
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 10: i would say probably until the last, YEAR i was
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 10: fumbling through.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: It NOW i just say it so everybody knows how
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: GREAT i.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 9: Am, Well i'm.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: Names that's there's a reason WHY i said The sharks
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: goaltender instead Of, nadelkovich because you don't want to butcher
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: the name and it you're prone to sometimes with These
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: Eastern european.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: Spellings. Uh the We' we talked a lot About olympic.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: Hockey Obviously kels is on THE Us olympic roster or
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: something we were hoping to, see and that came to.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: Fruition we've talked about the arena with the not jumbo,
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: tron the tron, tron, uh The russian band for this
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: because of The Ukrainian, war The ukrainian, conflict The russia's being,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: sanctioned and The russian hockey. Team russian athletes do not
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: get to represent their country under The russian.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: Flag does that affect any of The mammoth?
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: Guys would would we have Seen sergachev And Daniel boot
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: and some of these guys have an, OPPORTUNITY i.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 10: Think so there's there's a lot of great players In
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 10: russia that play in THE, khl but there's some really
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 10: good ones here and AND i was thinking about that
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 10: watching action last night in THE, nhl like, gosh that
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 10: that would be so awesome to be able to see
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 10: guys Like, Sergachev, Boot, Simachev Matty nietzschkoff who plays For
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 10: philadelphia where it's number thirty. Nine he's a twenty year
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 10: old feet. On but there's a lot Lot Serge bobrovski From,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 10: Florida like there's a lot of Great russian players that
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 10: aren't aren't. Involved And i'm, thinking, gosh this is going
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 10: to be so. Awesome but if you hadn't rush it
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 10: to it with the players that they, have that even
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 10: takes it to another level of competition for for THE
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 10: us And, canada to try and push ahead Against.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: LOOK i understand why The Olympic committee and why the
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: international community feels like you need to do something like,
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: this you need to sanction a country when there's conflict
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: happening and. WHATNOT i get disappointed by. IT i Don't
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: i'm not trying to be political on the. Show you
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: guys know my policy on. That but and it's probably
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: an unfair question to. ASK i don't know how political
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: hockey guys are in. General, right most of the time
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: you talk to athletes about something and they're just, like,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: DUDE i just want to play my. SPORT i want
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: to go home to my.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 4: Family. Right they have the same priorities that a lot
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 4: of people.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: Have and, then like some SPORTS i heavily in THE mma, world,
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: likes there's a lot OF mma guys that are like
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: very political and opinionated about. Things it's different when it's
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: an individual sport like that is there's, boxers there's some
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: of those athletes in other sports that, like if you
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: talk to them about this particular, conflict they're going to
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: have a strong opinion one way or. Another there were
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: SOME mma guys that got themselves into hot water for
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: expressing their views on this. Situation there was a couple
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: guys who started waving a different flag when they were
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: walking out to the ring for competition because of this
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: specific conflict That russia's being sanctioned for in, General like
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: if we grabbed all The RUSSIAN nhl guys that were just,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: like tell me what you think about, this where do
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: you think we'd net?
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 4: Out are they?
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: Political, well they have strong opinions on. It will they
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: be like a lot of athletes are where they're, Like i'm.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 4: Going to stay in my lane.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 10: Here when the conflict With ukraine And russia, STARTED i
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 10: was In tucson with The, Roadrunners utah's CURRENT hl, affiliate
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 10: and our starting Goalie Ivan, prosatov who's currently with The
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 10: Calgary flames, organization was you, know next man up for
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 10: For coyotes at the. Time, right he's having a great
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 10: season and teams in first place and we're rolling and
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 10: so this, happens, Right AND i grabbed him the next,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 10: MORNING i, said what what what's?
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: Up?
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: Man how's what do you? Think how are?
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 10: You he's, Like I'm i'm, Fine i'm concerned because my
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 10: family's In, russia but my focus is. This he's, Like
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 10: i'm a little shaken. Up i'm a little upset that
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 10: my country is at more, right that's. Disconcerting he's, like
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 10: but we're in first. Place i'm the next call, up
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 10: like we're we're going and and you, know you'd get
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 10: news media reaching out like could we talk to pros
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 10: the top about the war In? Russia AND i, said you,
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 10: KNOW i appreciate you, calling But i've talked To ivan
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 10: and it's it's obviously tough being here with his family
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 10: back In russia and country is at, war but were
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 10: in first. Place he's the biggest reason for. That and
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 10: if The coyotes need a goalie tonight Because Connor ingram
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 10: Or Crella milk doesn't feel, well he's driving up to,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 10: play Right he's that's that's what he's focused on and
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 10: driven on right.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: Now AND i think that's probably how it is for most.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: INDIVIDUALS i, mean it's it's unfortunate because for the athletes
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: to be the ones punished for decisions that they have
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: no influence, over no no power in these, equals it is.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 4: Unfortunate, AGAIN i.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: Understand why it has to happen on an international, stage
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: and there's all that posturing and politic and. Whatnot but
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: then when you boil it down and you're talking to,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: people it's, like for the most, part athletes want to
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 3: be able to. Play they would love to be able
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: to represent their country on an international. Stage they'd love
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: to be able to be part of An. Olympics and,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 3: look there's some of these guys are young enough that
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: it'll roll, around conflicts will be resolved and they'll have another.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 4: Opportunity so like If cirgachev.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 3: Was going to be on The olympic team this, year
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: he's not exactly a spring, chicken so maybe the next
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: role around he won't.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 10: Be, yeah you feel sorry for the players because you
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 10: see the excitement from guys Like Clayton, keller players LIKE
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 10: Jj peterka that are able to go represent a, country Corral,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 10: vamalca Only mada doing it for a second time With,
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 10: finland and you know that it would be just as
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 10: exciting of a situation for players Like, sergachev who's you,
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 10: know in his NINTH nhl, season he's twenty seven years.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 10: Old but as he, said, right how many how many
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 10: more opportunities are? There it's is THE nhl gonna be
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 10: involved in the Next. Olympics this is the first time
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 10: they've they've played in The olympics since since twenty. Fourteen so,
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 10: yeah definitely feel sorry for those guys and feel sorry
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 10: for you, know hockey fans that that that that would
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 10: be such a, great a great team to, see as you,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 10: said not looking at at anything else in terms of
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 10: the world, conflicts which is way over our, heads as you.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 4: Know i'll speak for, myself but it's way over my.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: Head it's definitely above the pay. Grade it's always great
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 3: catch it up with. YOU i Think i'm gonna see.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 4: At The game Of night, awesome, awesome last of a
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 4: homestand it's gonna be a little while before they're. Back
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: might as well get out, there.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 10: Right, yeah absolutely can't wait to see it between the
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 10: pipes With Adrian.
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  Speaker 3: man With utah, connections A utah and, Himself Cade madson
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  Speaker 3: kind enough to join.
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  Speaker 4: Us, Kid welcome to the. Show how are. You i'm doing?
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: Good are you the only big time rider From, Honeyville?
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 6: Utah my brother he's A i, mean he doesn't live
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 6: In honeyville. Anymore but there's a couple other big names
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 6: Like kim And Tyler. Bingham they grew up On. Honeyville
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  Speaker 6: so but for, now, YEAH i Guess i'm the only.
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  Speaker 4: One, well we're.
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  Speaker 3: Lucky we're lucky to have you on the, show LIKE i,
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: said and LOOK i. Do we talk about a lot of.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: Sports you don't get to talk about bull riding very.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 3: Often i'm a. FAN i love, it especially in my college.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: DAYS i watched a lot OF pbr that was long.
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  Speaker 3: Before that's probably before you were. Born that was the
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: The newberry days and The Adriana marias. Days but.
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  Speaker 4: We talk all the time about other.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 3: Sports how serving AN lds mission can be hard on the, sport,
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  Speaker 3: Right guys going on the mission and they come back
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: and they got to get back in football.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 4: Shape they got to put weight on or take weight.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: Off guys that are basketball players leave and they got
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 3: to come back and get back in shape before they're
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: good at you, know being on the hardwood. Again you
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: served AN lds. Mission how much did it take away
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: from your.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 6: Riding it was definitely a process getting back into. It
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 6: it was actually a little harder THAN i. Anticipated you,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 6: know you come back after two years and there's muscles
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 6: that you haven't worked a long, time and SO i
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 6: would soar for a little. While but it's really, been you,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 6: know kind of a fast, track WHICH i consider a great.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 6: Blessing you got to be able to ride at the
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 6: top of my game game just you, know it'll be
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 6: three months tomorrow SINCE i got home for my. Mission
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 6: so it was a little bit, hard but it's all
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  Speaker 6: been a. Blessing so, OKAY i, mean.
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  Speaker 3: So forgive me for focusing on, this but people here
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 3: In Salt Lake city, like this is a this is
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 3: a cultural, phenomenon the return missionary. Athlete this is a
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: thing that we're, very very familiar. With but again not
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: in the bull riding. Sense three months removed and you're
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: already back ON i mean professional, bull like this quality of.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: Bull you're not easing your way back into this.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 6: THING i use my way back in as best AS i.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 6: Could but you, know like any, sports you never know
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  Speaker 6: you know how ready you are until you actually just you,
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  Speaker 6: know put yourself in that. Situation AND i got on
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  Speaker 6: a lot of bulls in the practice penant my house
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 6: leading up to. It but, yeah it's, uh it's been
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  Speaker 6: really good in the last couple of.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 4: Months what other sports did you did you play growing?
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 6: UP i didn't play a whole lot of. SPORTS i
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 6: wrestled a little, bit but, mainly you, know SINCE i
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 6: was a little, kid All i've ever done is. Rodeo
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  Speaker 6: that's what's consumed most of my. TIME i come from
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 6: a rodeo, family and so you, know every, weekend day
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 6: in and day, out we're riding horses and stuff like.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 4: That so a real life cowboy In. Honeyville that's the
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 4: coolest thing. Ever Kate. MADSON Uh professional.
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  Speaker 3: Bull riders The Bull Right Professional Bull Riders tours coming
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  Speaker 3: To Salt Lake city at The Delta. CENTER. Uh and,
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: look one of the cool things ABOUT pbr is you
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: can be a fan of the, rider you can be
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  Speaker 3: a fan of the. Bull you can be a fan of.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: Both and sometimes you see your favorite rider on your
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: favorite bull, uh do you have a favorite? Bull do
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: you have a bull that you're looking forward to? Riding
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 3: do you have a bull that you dread?
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: Riding? Like what is your relationship with the animal athletes
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  Speaker 4: in THE?
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  Speaker 10: Pbr but they they're.
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  Speaker 6: Just as much as athletes as, us and so it's,
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  Speaker 6: always you, know you got to have a good bowl
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  Speaker 6: underneath of you to. Win and so right Now i'm
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 6: kind of trying to get used to all of. Them
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 6: all the bulls that were, going you, know before my
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 6: mission are you, know most of them are, retired but you,
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 6: know my favorite ones are the ones THAT i end
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 6: up winning.
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  Speaker 3: On so, uh, okay so tell, me, like give Me
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: i'm sure this is an unfair, question but give me a.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: Sense all, right when you're strapping onto a bull and
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: they're about to open that, shoot do you quiet your?
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: Mind do you say a quick? Prayer are you counting
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: in your own? Head what is the mental process of
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: trying to stay on for those eight?
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  Speaker 4: Seconds?
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 6: Kate for sure that you know the second right before
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  Speaker 6: that you get opens and the action actually takes. PLACE
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 6: i usually try to keep my mind pretty quiet most
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 6: of the you, know the thought, process the, preparation those
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 6: types of things you, know you do throughout the. Weekend
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 6: then when you get there you try to just hi,
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 6: person try to let muscle memory take.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 4: Over so what's the hardest type of bull to?
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 3: Ride because, they just like the athletes, do, right the
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: bulls come with all these different physical. Profiles you get
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 3: these big old muscular you get some of the leaner
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 3: ones that, spin you get like you, know the big,
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: horns you get the knobby. Heads is there a particular
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 3: style that you match up with better or that you don't,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 3: like or or maybe that you.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 8: Do it always.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 6: Depends every every guy rides their riding styles just a
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 6: little bit, different so they'll, favor you, know a bulls
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 6: bucking style a little bit better than. Others but in
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 6: terms of the, bulls the ones that are always you,
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 6: know seem to be the hardest to get. By the
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 6: ones that are are fairly. Unpredictable they do good at
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 6: allowing us to be able to do a little bit
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 6: of research on the bulls before we get on. Them
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 6: kind of, see you know what they're their typical bucking styles.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 6: Like but some of, them you, know they're they're really,
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 6: smart they're good, athletes and so they'll do something different
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 6: just about every, time and so those ones are kind
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 6: of hard to you, know, counteract you, know make a game.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 6: FUN i guess you'd, say you know how you're going
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 6: to get the job.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 4: Done but, kid how how do you?
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 4: How?
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: How how long before you know hoping on a bull
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: at The Delta? Center do you know which bull that's
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: going to? Be how's the draw?
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 6: Work so it'll be The tuesday before they do the official,
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 6: draw and so you'll know a couple of days leading
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 6: up to. It it gives you some time to do
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 6: a little bit of, research maybe watch some videos on,
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 6: it and come up with a game. Plan so.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: Is that film study truly valuable for? YOU i mean
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 3: it's part of every other. SPORT i the unpredictability of,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: livestock and, uh just the nature of how brutal this
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: sport can. BE i can't imagine it translates perfectly and
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: directly every single.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 4: Time but how valuable is it.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 6: To? Me it's pretty. Valuable it always kind of depends,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 6: on you, know different guys and what they like to.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 6: Do some of them don't like to know anything at
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 6: all and just kind of react off of you, Know.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 6: Phil but for, ME i do a little bit of
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 6: studying just to, know you, know if a bull has
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 6: a trick that he does that gets a lot of
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 6: guys on the. GROUND i usually like to know those
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 6: types of things so that you, can you, know make,
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 6: preparations make a game plan of how you're gonna you,
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 6: know get through that seat and you, know make the eight.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: Seconds uh, sorry where did you serve your YOUR lds?
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: Mission if you don't mind.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 6: Me, ASKING i served In, Nashville.
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee oh, wow cowboys said To.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: Nashville THAT'S i, mean that's that's a blessing and a
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 3: curse because you're not too you're not too far away
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: from stuff you'd like to be involved, in but you
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: can't be.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 4: Involved, well you're focused on the. MISSION i, Imagine, yeah.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 6: You're exactly, right far enough, away but go close.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 3: Enough that's that's wild all. Right so so how important
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: is it for you that this IS i mean it's
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 3: The Delta. CENTER i imagine. That you, know as a
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: kid In, utah you're very familiar with the important historic
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: sporting events that have happened in this, building and now
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: you get an opportunity to ride bulls.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 6: There, yes, sir all growing up you know THE pbr
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 6: has come To Salt Lake city several, times and you,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 6: know it's back at The Delta, center and, so you,
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 6: know being a little kid sitting on the couch watching THE,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 6: pbr it was always my dream to be able to
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 6: not only go to THE pbr in my home, state
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 6: but to be able to win. It and so the
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 6: months lead enough to me coming Home Salt Lake city
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 6: was like my official. GOAL i wanted to do back
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 6: riding good enough to be able to ride at The
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 6: Delta center In Salt Lake city and not just ride
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 6: Buck you, KNOW i plan on. Fun i'm, Winning so
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 6: it's definitely a huge blessing one That i'm really looking forward.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 4: To and how old were you when you first strapped
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 4: on to like a big boy full size.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 7: BULL i THINK i was thirteen.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 6: Years old WHEN i got on my first like full size.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 4: Bowls how much did you weigh when you were thirteen years?
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 6: Old probably maybe one hundred. TOWNS i wasn't very.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 9: Big so.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: Every guy That i've ever talked to myself included just,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: LIKE i would love to ride a bull just one.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: Time i'd love to check that off the bucket.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 3: List every man thinks they can do, it but you've
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: actually done, it and now you've done, it and now
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: it's your. Job it's routine for. You walk me through
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 3: what it's like doing that the first. Time how did you,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: feel what were you. THINKING i, know it's part of
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: the culture you grew up, in and you were raised
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: in a rodeo, family like you, said and you're familiar
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: with the.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 4: Animals BUT i imagine that the.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: First time you strap, in especially at age, thirteen it
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 3: was probably pretty.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 6: Daunting, Yeah and to be, honest it's always just been
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 6: kind of second nature to. Me SO i can't even,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 6: remember you, know what it felt, like you, know the first,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 6: time or WHEN i was thirteen years. Old BUT i
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 6: said you WHEN i come back for my, mission the
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 6: first ball THAT i got on, back it was super.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 6: Unnatural you know a lot of guys that will get
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 6: on their first. Ones before they get, on they typically you,
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 6: know they'll go through the thought. Process you, know it
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 6: can't be that. Hard it looks a lot. Easier but
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 6: then once they actually do it and get, on they
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 6: come back and it's, like, yeah that's a little harder
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 6: than you. Think and so coming back after two, years
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 6: it was, like, man it was and mentally it was,
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 6: tough but at the same, time physically it's it's kind
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 6: of an unnatural.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: Thing so, Yeah, kate it is an unnatural thing to
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 3: strap yourself to to the top of a wild. Animal,
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: WELL i guess not fully wild, animal but an animal
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: that's going. Wild that's pretty crazy. Stuff you guys are absolutely.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 3: Insane what's what's the worst injury you've ever sustained on a.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 6: Bull I've i've been very fortunate in my. CAREER i
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 6: haven't had too many serious. Injuries i've you, know pulled
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 6: a couple, growing a couple of broken, bones But i've
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 6: been relatively luckily lucky in my, career so not on
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 6: not too many.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: Injuries THAT'S i like Your you definitely are a cowboy
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: because you casually mentioned a couple of broken bones and
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 3: act like those aren't serious.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 4: INJURIES i like. That that's that's the cowboy mindset for.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 3: Sure, well, LOOK I i could pick your brain all
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 3: day about this Because i'm fascinated with. It and, uh we're,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: very very excited to HAVE pbr at The Delta. Center
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 3: thanks so much for join us on the show. Today,
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: obviously good luck not only at The Delta center, event
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: but every place that you strap on and. Ride will
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 3: will hope and pray that you stay healthy and that
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 3: you get those rides and you get your points and
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 3: you win.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 6: Big thank, you, SIR i appreciate. It thank you for having.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 3: Me Kate, mattson A utah boy who's going to be
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: riding at THE pbr event at The Delta, center coming
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: back off of mission three months ago and already strapping
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: on to THE.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 4: Pbr so in his particular, sport.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: That's coming off your mission and jumping back into AN
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: nba game in his particular, sport that's coming back off your.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 3: Mission and three months later you're standing in the batter's
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 3: box With kershaw throwing it at.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 4: You cowboys are just, different. Man it's.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 3: Awesome so when you get out, there if you win
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: the tickets That i'm going to give away in five
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  Speaker 3: Com big thanks To Cad madson AND pbr for making
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 3: that interview. HAPPEN i LOVED i loved WATCHING pbr in
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: my college.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 4: Days it was like this.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: IS i would go to, Practice i'd come, Back i'd
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: throw one of My totinos party pizzas BECAUSE i couldn't
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: afford real good. Food i'd throw one of those in the,
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: oven and we would turn ON pbr and we would
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 3: turn On The Ultimate, fighter that OLD ufc reality. Show
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: and that's what got us through practice, days spring practice,
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 3: days watching those. Guys and you, saw you saw one
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: of those, Things you saw both of those and SAID
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 3: i could probably do that. ONE i saw both of those.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 3: Things it was LIKE i could do, that but then
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 3: only one of them was a. Realist, YEAH i still do.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: Try have You you've probably done the mechanical. Bull i've
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: done mechanical. Balls i've ever gotten on the back of
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 3: a real Bull i've Done i've tried, roping, yeah And
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 3: i've done some steer, wrestling which is fun at.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 4: All mutton. Busting i've never done the mutton.
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 3: Busting BUT i think MY i THINK i Passed like
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 3: there was a time in my life, where for, sure
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: IF i was given the, OPPORTUNITY i would have strapped
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 3: onto the back of a bull just to say THAT
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 3: i had done. IT i think those days are. Past,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah i've got children now that depends on my. HEALTH
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: i you ever Seen i'm not in shape. Anymore you
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: ever seen Eight?
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 5: Seconds, yes the Bull riding movie one of my favorite
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 5: movies grown, up one of my dad's favorite movies grown.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 4: Up my dad wasn't, okay wasn't really a. Cowboy grew
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 4: up In Salt Lake.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: Valley but his, grandpa my great, grandpa had had a
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: had a ranch in a farm in Northern arizona here
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 3: is on a, strip so he spent his summers.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 5: There so he felt like he was a little bit
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 5: of a. Cowboy, yeah so he Loved he Loved, Rodeo
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 5: he loved the you know movies like Eight. Seconds but
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 5: the if you've seen Eight, seconds there's a particular injury
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 5: he sustains in that. Movie there's a few that he
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 5: sustains where there's a particular one where you're, like, Yeah
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 5: i'm a, father NOW i can't risk.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 4: That There's, look.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: When when you hear the announcers ON pbr talk about
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 3: injuries right, there it's weird because you don't focus on.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 3: THEM i probably that was probably a full pall for
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 3: me to Ask Kate madson about his worst. Injury by the,
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: way maybe it was probably like you probably Like i've
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 3: broke handled.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 5: It, well we've we Apologize kate if you took if
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 5: you took that wrong, way.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 3: Well it's Probably you're probably not supposed to do that
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 3: to a, cowboy especially when they got an event coming,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: up because then they're you, know put subconsciously getting hurt
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 3: into their mind or. Whatever but everyone in the sport
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 3: will talk about it's not if you're gonna get, hurt
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: it's when and how bad and how you in, it
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 3: because there's absolutely no shot you make it through even
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 3: a season of riding bulls without getting hurt in a
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 3: pretty serious. Way it is a nasty sport and it's
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun to. Watch so get out there
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 3: to The Delta.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 4: CENTER i.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 5: Love by the, way just real, QUICK i mentioned THE
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 5: i shouted out the Old Dixie Roundup rodeo at The
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 5: Sun bowl In Saint. George, yeah grew up going to.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 5: That the bull riding, event the highlight of every, rodeo
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 5: right the showcase event of every. Rodeo that my favorite.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 5: Thing seeing that in, person and then we would walk
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 5: behind and watch the bulls getting corralled through the the
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 5: shoots and.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 4: Everything it is just so much.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: Fun haven't been to A pbr just bull riding, event
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 5: but having gone to a lot of.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 4: Those rodeos growing, up it it's so much.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 5: Fun if you have not, been if you've not been
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 5: to even a, rodeo A pbr, event it's worth it's
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 5: worth checking.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: Out rodeo culture is, awesome the events are, Awesome the
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: arena announcers are always just absolutely fantastic, characters the rodeo,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 3: clowns the bullfighters are all they're impressive, athletes like all
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 3: of it is really really. Neat it's a, nostalgic Very american,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 3: thing Although brazilians are also very. Good oh, YEAH pbr
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: has got a ton Of brazilian. Riders calculture and ranching
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 3: is big In brazil as. Well so, anyway enough on the.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 3: Rodeo but oh, wait last. Thing you'd be surprised at
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: how docile some of these bulls are when there's nobody
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: sitting on their, back like, INTERESTING i had no. Idea
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: not all of, them but like some of them you
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 3: can walk up and pet. Them they're just, fine they're not.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: MAD i would not dare, to BUT i will take
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 3: your word for.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 5: It they're just, like but you, know they put the
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 5: bull ropes on them and then they're and then the
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 5: athletes they get in that mindset and let's.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: Go they know what's what they're supposed to. Do when
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 3: someone climbs on their. Back they're weed it out through this.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 3: Process THE pbr bulls are the best in the, world
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: and they weed them out through this, process, like, oh
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 3: you got that bull didn't buck off a thirteen year,
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 3: Old he's never gonna see THE, pbr you know WHAT i.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 3: Mean they find the most rank, bulls the nastiest, ones
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 3: and they cultivate them up through these. Systems it's a
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: really neat. Culture so, uh That's i'll get off my.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 3: Soapbox now we'll give away tickets to THE pbr and
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  Speaker 11: should not do as you age because they are. DANGEROUS
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  Speaker 3: LOT i don't have deep functional knowledge on almost, anything
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• 2:30:20
  Speaker 11: Mike how Does sean know about bull? Riding why Does
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  Speaker 11: got to say it out. Loud, yeah but bull, RIDING
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 11: i THINK i WONDER i Think porter has attempted. IT
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 11: i have Never and as we were, discussing now that
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  Speaker 11: we are in our, year in your early, FORTIES i
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  Speaker 11: i think that ships. SAILED i don't think bull writing
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 11: is in my.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 4: Future.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah if there's like A i don't, know a bull
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 3: equivalent of an old man who shouldn't be doing this,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: Anymore i'll get on that. Bowl maybe like the one
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 3: that's only going to jump a couple of times that
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 3: it's been, Like, god never.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 11: Mind what about a mechanical bowl at like a bar
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 11: In West Holiday there's just, no definitely not A West.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 11: Hollywood there's just there's just not a way you can
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 11: look cool doing. That, no and there's no, like there's no. Upside,
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 11: no you're gonna get thrown off and if you, don't so, What, YEAH.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: I wrote that mechanical bull for eight. Seconds all, right,
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 3: congrats there's a FREE.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 11: Ipa, yeah like there's and also isn't that reserved for
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 11: like women to post On instagram or the?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 3: Bar the, bars the bars that have mechanical bulls want
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: sorority chicks to get on.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 11: A mechanical not men in their, forties not forty year old. Man, yeah, yeah,
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 11: yeah schedule release BEFORE i say you, lose huh is?
• 2:31:46
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• 2:31:50
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• 2:31:58
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• 2:32:02
  Speaker 4: Very calmly For. UTAH i think it is a good
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 4: way to put.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 3: It and obviously there's a lot that needs to be
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: answered With Morgan scalley taking over the program and. Whatnot
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 3: BUT i, mean if you, had if you had this
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 3: year's slate with all the roster turnover and losing half
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff and things like, that we wouldn't be, like,
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  Speaker 3: yeah that's a ten win season right right next Year
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  Speaker 3: i'm looking at, It i'm going, like, well, geez there's
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  Speaker 3: like seven wins here that are kind of like close to.
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  Speaker 4: Guaranteed, yeah you would. Hope, SO i mean so.
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  Speaker 11: Many by the, way Is Avery johnson done a case?
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  Speaker 11: State he'll never be done a case. STATE i don't. Know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 11: like BECAUSE i was going over the, List cincinnati's replacing a.
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  Speaker 11: QUARTERBACK tcu is replacing a. QUARTERBACK i always stay is replacing.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody you.
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  Speaker 11: Know tech is just reloading and they'll be replacing a,
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  Speaker 11: quarterback but they're actually.
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  Speaker 4: Upgrading BUT i think Avoiding tech and The Notre dame
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  Speaker 4: game FOR byu is going to be really.
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  Speaker 11: Tough they have their quarterback, back THE cj car, Kid
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  Speaker 11: Jeremiah love comes. Back BUT i THINK byu could probably
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 11: lose To Notre dame and still get. In as long
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  Speaker 11: as they handle their business Against, utah And utah doesn't
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  Speaker 11: have that type of challenge on their, schedule the non
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 11: CON's pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Easy it's all In Salt. LAKE i don't, know.
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  Speaker 11: Man WHEN i was reviewing the schedule for Both utah AND,
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  Speaker 11: BYU i think it's pretty manageable and reasonable for. BOTH
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  Speaker 11: i hate to beat the dead horse, here BUT i
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  Speaker 11: don't love the date OF Byu. Utah BUT i, think you,
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  Speaker 11: know it is what it is moving, forward and you,
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  Speaker 11: KNOW i THINK byu fans can put their conspiracy theory
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 11: that Coach wit was the one that was insisting that
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 11: THE byu game was not the final game of the.
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  Speaker 4: Season we can throw that out the window.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 11: Now but you, know a daylight today for a schedule,
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 11: release it's kind of Like christmas morning for college football
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 11: offseason because it opens your mind to a lot of.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 11: Possibilities and obviously we're months away FROM i, mean hell
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 11: had springball. Yet but going over the, schedule there's an
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 11: excellent chance that That UTAH byu game could be as
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 11: consequential as any matchup in rivalry.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 4: History first four games.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 3: Win, win, win probably, win then a bye next game
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: after the Bye kansas at, home, Win colorado on the road.
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 4: Win then you Got houston at. Home that's a tough.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 3: Game, Yeah houston's not a bad. Team they've got some,
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 3: talent they've got a lot of. Speed cincinnati on the.
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  Speaker 3: ROAD i don't THINK i Trust cincinnati to be any
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 3: good Without. Soresby he was the only thing that made them, good,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 3: Right and then you Got by at. Home SO i,
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 3: mean based on my obviously accurate, prediction here we're talking
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 3: about a week ten matchup Where utah is sitting at
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 3: eight and one at.
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  Speaker 11: Worst, yeah AND i THINK byu is going to be
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 11: sitting in the very same, spot you, know and there's
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 11: a good chance both teams are clean and obviously, tech you,
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 11: know avoiding tech is. Huge but the dynamic THAT i
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 11: think is going to be. Interesting maybe you know more
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 11: about this THAN i. Do The kilanie wi, dynamic it
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 11: was almost like father, son kind of like respectful a little.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 11: Bit what The Klannie morgan. DYNAMIC i, Mean morgan said
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 11: at a, pressure that's my. Guy we went through the fire.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 11: TOGETHER i would imagine there's nothing but love between the. Two,
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 11: YEAH i, mean do you have any insight on that?
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 11: Relationship and all to my, knowledge they're.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 3: Friends, yeah, yeah and like, yeah friends from the same
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 3: age bracket and friends from the same kind of Like
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 3: i'm friendly with like my dad's, friend you know WHAT i,
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 3: mean like my. Uncle but we're not friends the way
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 3: That i'm friends with guys that are you, know even
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 3: my older brother's, age they're they're.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 4: Peers, Yeah kilannie And, wit we're not.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: Peers he helps you get into the, business, right and
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 3: even if you have reached the same level as, him
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: there's a there's a deference in things like. That, yeah
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 3: that's not part of relationship Between morgan And klonne to my,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: knowledge but they get. Along and, that by the, way
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 3: is the best version of the rivalry where the fans
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 3: hate each other and the head coaches love each other.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 4: But want to kick the crap out of each. Other
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 4: yeah every. Year.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah the other thing THAT i was thinking about and
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 11: kind of debating a little, bit and it's probably just
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 11: time to admit that The College Football Playoff committee or
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 11: whoever the hell is going to be in charge of
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 11: this thing moving. Forward and obviously the tentacles of THE
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 11: sec and The Big ten are unavoidable and. Undeniable they've
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 11: just told us pretty early on over the past couple
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 11: of years that The Big twelve is a one bid.
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 11: League now maybe they go to. Sixteen we haven't heard
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 11: anything because they can't decide. Anything but if we operate
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 11: off the premise that there will be no, expansion AND
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 11: i don't believe there's going to be this, YEAR i
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 11: think they're talking about the year. After this is some
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 11: sort of but we'll. SEE i, mean, Hell i've read
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 11: that three players entered the transfer portal. TODAY i thought
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 11: it was. CLOSED i don't know what the hell's going.
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 11: On but if you're In, utah if YOUR Byu tech
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 11: is out, there and that's the. DEAL i, mean if
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 11: it's a one bid, league margin of error for our
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 11: two in State big twelve teams almost, zero which feels
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 11: a little bit. Unfair and, look It's. January to say
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 11: it's a two bid league or a one bid league is.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 11: Impossible but would you agree with the premise that the
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 11: messaging that we received pretty early on in the season
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 11: with the rankings is The Big twelve is a clearly
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 11: a one bid.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 3: League the messaging was we're going to put you in
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 3: the rankings so you're inside the party until it actually, matters,
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 3: right so you feel like you're getting the. Invite all,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: right THE qte girl's going to ask you a, Homecoming
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 3: but then you're gonna be standing there by yourself when
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 3: it actually. Happens but if we let you know that
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 3: in week, seven then you won't be talking about. It
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 3: you'll be already, disenfranchised you'll be, sad and you'll lose. Interest,
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 3: instead they dangle the. Carrot it was masterful manipulation of
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 3: The utah fan, base THE byu fan. Base they were just, like,
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 3: look you're right, There you're right, There you're right. There,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 3: no only the winner of the conference championship speaking of
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 3: THE qt.
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  Speaker 4: Girl of ging you to.
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  Speaker 11: HOMECOMING i was going to sleep last, night and AS i,
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  Speaker 11: REFERENCED i told YOU i was going to do. THIS
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 11: i continued to think about the fact That Fernando mendoza
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 11: just won The Heisman trophy in a national championship and
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 11: he does.
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  Speaker 4: Not speak to. Girls you'll never be able to get over.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 4: IT i. Won't i'm going to turn it over to.
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 3: You an update on the POLL i put up based
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 3: on an EMAIL i got and a text MESSAGE i,
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 3: got AND i shared the, tweet would you support a
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 3: rebrand slash rename Of real Salt.
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  Speaker 4: Lake forty six percent say, no fifty four percent say.
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  Speaker 12: The Salt Lake City. Go do you watch your, mouth young?
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  Speaker 4: Man? YES i. Know this was your dad's. Thing this
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 4: was the people don't know. This this was my.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 3: Thing you're the one who came up With Real Salt
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