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US Open Betting Preview & Stanley Cup Update · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast part of the Action Network.
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  Speaker 1: I am Chadmillman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, dude?
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  Speaker 1: Finals are over? We still got one game left, well,
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  Speaker 1: we think we got one game left, could be more
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  Speaker 1: in the Stanley Cup. Later on in the show, Mike Leeboff,
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  Speaker 1: the US Open back in LA for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in seventy five years. I want to remind you, Simon
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  Speaker 1: Time today, Last minute tickets, Lowes Price Garonti. Jason Soble
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  Speaker 1: scene in Los Angeles. Soble, before we get to the
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  Speaker 1: US Open, I know people want to get some action down.
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  Speaker 1: Last week Shockwave News the PIF, which owns and operates Live,
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  Speaker 1: merges with the PGA. There have been so many interesting
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  Speaker 1: TikTok stories the past week about how this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: came together. The players involved, Jimmy Dunn, a board member
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  Speaker 1: at PGA, Michael Klein, part of the PGA contingent, Jay
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  Speaker 1: Monahan flying around the world, eating breakfast at a hotel
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  Speaker 1: in Venice, hoping he doesn't get recognized, to meet with
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  Speaker 1: the head of PIF to close this deal. Give me
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  Speaker 1: the three takeaways from the deal making that have been
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  Speaker 1: most interesting to you.
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  Speaker 4: I hope you meant, first of all, Chad, that these
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  Speaker 4: are TikTok stories. Is in the timeline of what's going on,
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  Speaker 4: not that we all have to get on TikTok to
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  Speaker 4: follow these stories, because that might be the worst thing
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  Speaker 4: to happen of this entire merger.
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  Speaker 1: Interchangeable, inter changeable. This morning, I was having breakfast with
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  Speaker 1: my wife, and my wife is always like saying to me,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to banter, but I like banter, like
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  Speaker 1: she wants to chit chat sometimes. And so I've realized
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  Speaker 1: that when I want to banter, it's like in the
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  Speaker 1: morning first thing, or at night, like before we're going
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  Speaker 1: to bed, I'm unloading on, you know, silly things from
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  Speaker 1: the day. But those are the only two times she
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  Speaker 1: actually is on her phone during the day. She's very
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  Speaker 1: busy all day, and so she never wants to talk
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  Speaker 1: to me then and she looks at me and she goes, look,
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  Speaker 1: we're not banter compatible. Bear in mind, next week we're
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  Speaker 1: celebrating our twenty fifth wedding anniversary. She's like, we're just
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  Speaker 1: not banter compatible. You're on TikTok the whole freaking day.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're on TikTok all day. Every chance you get,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna go on TikTok between a meeting or a
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  Speaker 1: call or whatever. I'm not so this is my time,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't want to talk. So if we can
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  Speaker 1: get on TikTok and find the TikTok about the live
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  Speaker 1: PGA deal, fantastic. Instead, I've got Jason Sober.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm not doing the TikTok. If that's what's
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  Speaker 4: coming out of this merger, then I'm moving on. But
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  Speaker 4: three takeaways from three takeaways from what we've seen over
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  Speaker 4: the past week. First of all, more questions than answer. Still,
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  Speaker 4: even a week later, I still have plenty of questions
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  Speaker 4: as to what's going on. Look, I got into this
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  Speaker 4: business twenty years ago, bringing the PGA Tour because Chad,
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  Speaker 4: I am qualified to watch other people play golf and
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  Speaker 4: then afterwards, go, so it look like you played pretty good, huh?
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  Speaker 4: And and they say yes, I played well, and I
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  Speaker 4: go okay, cool, and I write something down about it.
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  Speaker 4: And that's essentially what I'm qualified to do. It's not
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  Speaker 4: very good. That said, once we start getting into antitrust
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  Speaker 4: lawsuits and the Department of Justice and subpoenas and senators
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  Speaker 4: looking into things. I'm like, like, way over my head,
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  Speaker 4: but i know that my boss is gonna want me
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  Speaker 4: looking into all this stuff. So I've got to get
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  Speaker 4: much smarter about what's going on very very quickly, or
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  Speaker 4: else I'm going to fall behind. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of that stuff still lingering. I still think that a
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  Speaker 4: lot of this was precipitated by the fact that there
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  Speaker 4: was litigation both sides. There was going to be a
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  Speaker 4: discovery phase. The PGA tour looked at that discovery phase
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  Speaker 4: and said, uh, we've got some things that we really
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  Speaker 4: don't want getting out there and the public investment funds
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  Speaker 4: that you know. Come to think of it, we actually
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  Speaker 4: have a couple skeletons of the closet as well. We
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  Speaker 4: may not want those things getting out publicly either. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: why don't we start talking and see if we can
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  Speaker 4: come to an agreement and we can all figure out
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  Speaker 4: a way to move forward in this game of golf.
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  Speaker 4: And the other thing I can tell you, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how many takeaways this is so far, I'm not counting,
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  Speaker 4: but in case best too Okay, good, I got one more.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a takeaway from everything we've learned. In case you
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  Speaker 4: didn't know this, in case you thought golf is all
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  Speaker 4: about it's a game of honor, and golf is about integrity,
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  Speaker 4: and golf is about you know, at the professional level,
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  Speaker 4: it's about you know, who plays the best and who wins.
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  Speaker 4: I've got news for you, guys. Golf, much like business,
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  Speaker 4: much like life, much like everything we've ever known, is
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  Speaker 4: all about the benjamins. It's about the dollars. It's about money, money, money,
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  Speaker 4: It's about the rials, so to speak. Because this is
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  Speaker 4: what it's all about. This is what is precipitating everything
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  Speaker 4: I've heard guestimations that the PGA Tour goold, double, triple,
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  Speaker 4: quadruple invaluation with this new entity that's been formed. And
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  Speaker 4: again it's funny. J Monahan, the PGA Tour Commissioner, and
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  Speaker 4: the congratulations to the new CEO of whatever this for
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  Speaker 4: profit entity is going to be. He was approved by
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  Speaker 4: the board. The board, of course, is includes himself, Yasser
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  Speaker 4: al Ramayan who did the deal for PIF, and Jimmy
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  Speaker 4: Dunn and Ed Hurlahe who were on the PGA Tour
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  Speaker 4: policy Board, who also put themselves on this board and
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  Speaker 4: then hired J Monahan, So that's how that happened. But
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  Speaker 4: J Monahan is said over the past week, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why everyone's calling it a merger. It is not
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  Speaker 4: a merger. Well, it's probably because the press release that
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  Speaker 4: was sent out to the media on Tuesday at ten
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  Speaker 4: am last week said PGA Tour, DP World Tour and
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  Speaker 4: Public Investment Fund merge Commercial Operations. Sorry, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: where we got merger from. It was only in your
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  Speaker 4: press release. So again that leads to maybe my last takeaway,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how many of this is. Maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is my fourth takeaway out of three. But the fourth
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  Speaker 4: takeaway is I'm not sure sure how I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 4: report on this story. I'm not sure how anyone's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to know what's going on. If the parties involved themselves
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  Speaker 4: have absolutely no clue right now. Either they're saying, don't
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  Speaker 4: call it a merger when they're sitting out press releases
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  Speaker 4: literally calling it a merger. They're still in the dark.
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  Speaker 4: We're certainly in the dark.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, sobo, as you've seen players come in, have you
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  Speaker 1: spoken to guys. I know it's still early there. What
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  Speaker 1: is sort of the reacts you're getting now that where
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  Speaker 1: a week later and a lot of the hurt feelings
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  Speaker 1: and anger starts to subside as they reckon with reality.
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  Speaker 4: The PGA tour players are very, very angry at j Monahan.
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  Speaker 4: There was a player meeting last week at the RBC
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  Speaker 4: Canadian Open where a large majority we're not just mad
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  Speaker 4: at Jay, but calling for his resignation. They were that mad. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I tend to believe that they get it. For the
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  Speaker 4: year and a half, Monahan and others with a PGA
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  Speaker 4: tour asked them to be loyal. They preach loyalty, they
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  Speaker 4: preached devotion, they preached integrity, and then all sudden Jay
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  Speaker 4: just did the exact opposite of everything he had said
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  Speaker 4: they should do, and he went behind their backs, didn't
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  Speaker 4: tell them this was gonna happen, and all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden makes a deal and tries to go back to
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  Speaker 4: them and says, well, you know, things have changed. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's very hypocritical of him. In fact, jamon And
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  Speaker 4: has said over the past week, hey, I know you
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  Speaker 4: can call me a hypocrite. A lot of people in
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  Speaker 4: a response and said yep, sure, Ken definitely gonna do that,
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  Speaker 4: and so I think he understands the situation that he
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  Speaker 4: has put himself in. But again, this was about money.
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  Speaker 4: It was about the discovery phase of the litigation. This
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  Speaker 4: was about trying to save yourself as opposed to I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if it was ever going to go under,
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  Speaker 4: but there were signs that the PGA Tour was going
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  Speaker 4: to be hurting. Look, they had to infuse a lot
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  Speaker 4: more money into these elevated designated events that they've started
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  Speaker 4: playing this year, essentially in retaliation to live Basically, how
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  Speaker 4: can we keep our best players? Well, we'll pay him
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  Speaker 4: a lot more for playing in these big events. Well,
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  Speaker 4: that money wasn't coming from the sponsors. That was coming
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  Speaker 4: from reserves. Once you start burning up all the money
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  Speaker 4: in reserves, there's not a whole lot left. And so
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  Speaker 4: they needed money and this was the easiest way for
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  Speaker 4: them to get money was to partner with him. As
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  Speaker 4: for what the players are saying now, I've had players
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  Speaker 4: on both sides, PGA Tour players and players would live
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  Speaker 4: golf who are texting me going, hey, what do you know?
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  Speaker 4: What can you tell us? And I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you the same thing. It really is.
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  Speaker 4: I Mean, I hate coming on shows like this one
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  Speaker 4: where I'm like, I don't know a whole lot and
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  Speaker 4: anything we know is just or we think we know
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  Speaker 4: is just speculation. But quite honestly, that's the case. And
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  Speaker 4: if jame Onahan, if Yasar elver Mayan, if Jimmy Dunn,
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  Speaker 4: we're sitting right next to me right now, and we
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  Speaker 4: had them and we're asking them questions. A lot of
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  Speaker 4: the questions I don't think they could answer right now either,
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think they have a great plan for
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  Speaker 4: what this is going to be. Three six, twelve months
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  Speaker 4: from now.
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  Speaker 1: US Open is back in LA first time in seventy
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  Speaker 1: five years. I feel like whenever there is an event
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  Speaker 1: in LA that is a major event, it feels a
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  Speaker 1: little more special, like there's something a little more glamorous.
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  Speaker 1: It felt that way for the Super Bowl, It's felt
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  Speaker 1: that way for NBA Finals. Are you feeling that right
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  Speaker 1: now back in La?
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  Speaker 4: I am Chad, And it's not just in LA. This place,
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  Speaker 4: if you haven't seen yet, we are like it's as
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  Speaker 4: if they took Central Park in the middle of New
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  Speaker 4: York City harved out a major championship golf course in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of it, and played golf in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of the city. I mean we are literally in the
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  Speaker 4: foothills of Beverly Hills. The Beverly Hilton, one of the
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  Speaker 4: most famous hotels in the city, is hovering over the
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  Speaker 4: driving range right outside of where I'm sitting right now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we are like smack dab in the city
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood just down the street. So this isn't just well,
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  Speaker 4: it's in La but La is a big place, and
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of away from anything that would be a
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  Speaker 4: touristy attraction or anything like that. This is right in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of the city. I'm telling you, I just
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  Speaker 4: went for a walk around this golf course a little
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  Speaker 4: while ago. This place is special. I really hope it
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  Speaker 4: shows out on TV because in person, you walk around,
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  Speaker 4: You're like, man, this place is cool. It's, to an extent,
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  Speaker 4: the exact opposite we saw last month at o Kill
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  Speaker 4: for the PGA Championship. I walked around O Kill I said, man,
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  Speaker 4: this course is really really difficult. It's immaculate. It's in
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  Speaker 4: great shape for a major championship, and me, as a
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  Speaker 4: seven handicap, I want absolutely no part of this because
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  Speaker 4: I would lose my mind. I would be I would
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  Speaker 4: be insane trying to play this golf course because it's
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  Speaker 4: just way too hard. I walk around this place here
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  Speaker 4: LACC and I go it's really hard, but man, it
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  Speaker 4: looks fun. I would love to go play this golf course.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd let me play because I
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  Speaker 4: usually wear shorts, and I might have some music playing,
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  Speaker 4: and I might take my phone out at times, and
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  Speaker 4: they don't let you do any of those things here,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't know i'd quite fit in. But you guys,
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  Speaker 4: this is a really really cool spot. It's rustic, it's natural.
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  Speaker 4: There's nothing artificial looking. A lot of times we watch
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  Speaker 4: a major championship on TV and from the blue dye
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  Speaker 4: that they put in the water to you know, making
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  Speaker 4: the grass a little greener than it was before that,
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  Speaker 4: it all just looks a little unnatural. This place is
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  Speaker 4: as natural as it comes. And I'm really excited about
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  Speaker 4: this week again. It's another chance to at least focus
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  Speaker 4: on golf inside the ropes as opposed to everything else
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  Speaker 4: that's going on in the professional golf world.
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  Speaker 2: Right now. Now, I could give us little course preview.
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  Speaker 3: Is there a golfer you think this is going to
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  Speaker 3: really care to because it's such a unique place like
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  Speaker 3: way you're talking about it, I feel like that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: give an edge a certain type of golfer. Is there
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  Speaker 3: anything that pops out to you about this golf course
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  Speaker 3: and you know, previewing it for what players it could
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  Speaker 3: be advantaged too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Simon, we usually look at specific metrics where
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  Speaker 4: we might go, hey, it's a US Open, you've got
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  Speaker 4: to keep it in the fairway, and hey, look that's
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  Speaker 4: not a bad thing. It's better to be in the
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  Speaker 4: fairway than in the rough. And boy, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: be a good ball striker. You want to hit it
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  Speaker 4: on the greens. Yeah, sure, better to be on the
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  Speaker 4: greens than in the rough around the greens. So sure
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  Speaker 4: those are all given, But there's not one of those
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  Speaker 4: metrics where I look at I would say seventy to
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  Speaker 4: seventy five percent of PGA Tour events, the number one
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  Speaker 4: metric I'm looking at is strokes gained approach shots, where
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking for that second shot into the greens, how
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  Speaker 4: players have been hitting their irons lately? Going into that one,
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  Speaker 4: I would say about fifteen to twenty percent of the
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  Speaker 4: events I'm looking at off the team numbers, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if you can set yourself up with some long straight
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  Speaker 4: drives three point thirty in the fairway, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: be in really good shape to make some birdies on
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  Speaker 4: this golf course. There, I'd say five to ten percent
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  Speaker 4: might become essentially birdie fest, where hey, the best putter
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  Speaker 4: is gonna win. Everyone's gonna hit the fairway, everyone's gonna
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  Speaker 4: hit a green regulation on these big wide resort golf courses,
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  Speaker 4: So whoever putt's best wins. We're looking at putting stats.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure that I've ever looked at a golf
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  Speaker 4: course where I look at strokes gained round the greens
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  Speaker 4: as maybe the most important metric this week, and I
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  Speaker 4: think you're just gonna have to get up and down
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: from everywhere. It's not gonna be a very low scoring
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: golf tournament. I think something certainly in the single digits
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: under par, maybe even four or five under par, is
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: going to win this golf tournament. And so what I
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: extrapolate from that is it's all about creativity this week.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I look at LACC as a palette. I want the
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: guys who are artistic in nature. I don't want the
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: players who are essentially painted by number, who just kind
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: of plod their way one spot to the next and
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: hit these stock shots. There are no stock shots on
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: this golf course. With the USGA is trying to do guys,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: they will change up the yardage on different holes every day,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: so there's a it's getting a lot of social media play.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: The eleventh goal playing two hundred and ninety yards is
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: a par three. Now they're gonna move it up and
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: play it two twenty one day, move it back to
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: two sixty, back to two ninety. They're gonna make the
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: players think all the time. What they don't want is
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: a player who grabs a nine iron as he's walking
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: down the fairway. I got this standard nine iron in
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: no big deal. They want the players fussing over every
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: single shot, trying to figure out it's as much a
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: mental exercise as it is a physical and technical exercise.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: For all of those reasons, I want the players who
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: are the most artistic in nature, who are the most creative,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and that leads to two on the top of my list.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I've got Cameron Smith, who's been playing on liv Golf,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: but we saw him win last year at the Open. Championship.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: He was second in strokes game putting last month at
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: okill for the PGA Championship. And then, of course Jordan Spieth,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: who is the game's pre eminent magician right now, who
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: can take a double bogie and turn it into a
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: par at a moment's notice, and we've seen him do
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: it so many times over the year. So I'm taking
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: those kind of players. If you guys don't want to
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: listen to me. We had a segment on the radio yesterday.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I was with my friend Gary Williams, who was co
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: hosting my show Hitting the Green on series XM PGA
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Tour Radio with me, and I said, all right, let's
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: down our top five most creative artistic players and guys
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: that we think could play well. We had four of
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the five same names. We both had Cameron Smith Jordan
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Spieth at the top of our list. We each had
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Justin Thomas and Scottie Scheffler. He had Patrick Reid, who
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I do like a lot. This week, I had Ricky
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Fowler rounding it out. But there's no real mysteries here.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: There's no real, you know, difference of opinion in who
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the most artistic players are. So if indeed the course
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: plays to creativity. Those are the guys we want to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: look at.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned the mental part of it. It's going
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: to be a jigsaw puzzle. It's gonna be the kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of course where the USGA is trying to get people
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to have to think about every shot. Who does whose
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: strengths does that play to?
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so again I'm looking at Cameron Smith, I'm looking
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: at Jordan Speith. If we want to go further down
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: the list, Patrick Reid is a player who we've seen
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: win major championships in the past. He's a past Masters champion,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: really good around the greens, and so he's at eighty
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: to one all the live players, Chad, It's very interesting.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Even though Brooks KEEPKA one last month, other than Brooks himself,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: all the live players are still a few points undervalued
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: in the marketplace. I think so, like Cameron Smith, Patrick
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Reid is probably underpriced right now, and so I find
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: him at eighty to one in most books, and I
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: think that's a really good number on a guy who's
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: proven he can win a major championship at this type
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: of place. The other specialist, if you will, that you
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: might want to look at guys who play their best
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: golf on the West Coast. I'll give you a few names,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: not really for outrights, but just guys who either grew
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: up on the West Coast or tend to play well
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: out here. Sahi Figala, who's going to be an absolute star.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: This kid's gonna be a top ten golfer in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: world within the next year or two. Andrew Putnam is
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: a guy who played really well at the Memorial Tournament
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: two weeks ago, now comes back to friendlier confines. Justin
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Suh has played some very good golf on the West Coast.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Patrick Rogers, I've heard it has played maybe more golf
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: here than any other player in the field. Remember, most
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: players have never seen this golf course before. Some there
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: are a few Max Homer, John Ram played the twenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: thirteen PAC twelve Championship year that's a decade ago. There
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: are a few others more Kawas Scheffler played the twenty
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: seventeen Walker Cup that lasted a few days. Other than that,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: these guys haven't seen this golf course. They haven't been
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: here before, So everyone is trying to figure that puzzle
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: out right now.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you spoke to creativity. Are guys like Patrick Reid,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Cam Smith, Jordan Spieth. Are those the guys who you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: would say are the most mentally tough on the tour?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Like if if they're if someone isn't as creative but
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they're really mentally tough, will that make up for it
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: for them? And if so, who are those players?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: It's very possible. Look number one on the mentally tough
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: list right now Strokes gained mental toughness. If we want
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: to turn this into a stat, is brooks Kepka. I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: brooks Kepka shows up, he's major championships, and I say
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: it seemingly before every major championship that we sit here
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: for a week beforehand trying to look at well, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: kind of like this stat and I kind of like
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: these guys, and it might all come down to, all right,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: let's start the pod. Who do you like brooks Kopka?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Why because he wins at major championships, plays his best
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: golf every single time? Boom, that's it. I mean, we
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: don't have to spend twenty five minutes breaking down the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: US Open. We can spend ten seconds and say, brooks Koepka,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: he's really good at majors. He's playing this week he's
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: mentally tough, he's really good at golf. It might be him,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: and it very well could be him. I did a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: ranking for us at the Action Network yesterday of the
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: top tier of the field, and I had Brooks kept
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: getting number five, and what I wrote about him was,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: he might be the only guy I could list at
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: number five and legitimately has a case of I feel
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: like I'm getting I'm getting doubted. I'm gonna put a
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: chip on my shoulder. I'll put this up with a
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: refrigerator because you guys are doubting me and don't think
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I can do it again. I wasn't trying to demean
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Brooks Kepkin anyway, but he certainly to go out and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: win again this week, because yes, mental toughness is going
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to be a big key this week as well.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: All Right, I want to I wanna tell people who
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: are listening, uh, your top twenty five, And if anyone
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: who's in the pool with me is listening, yeah, you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: can assume that some people on this list will be
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: people that I choose. And I'm not afraid to reveal
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: my secrets because I keep winning anyways. Cameron Smith number one,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Jordan Speth number two, Scottie Scheffler number three, Patrick Cantlay
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: number four, Keepka five, Fee now six forty to one
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: right now, Xander Schoffley seven, Patrick Reid eight, Rombo nine,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Ryan Fox, Ryan Fox number ten, Simon, go ahead, what sober?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: What say it? If you'd like me to list chalk
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: A list chalk, that's not what the Action Network is about.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Oh listen of course.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, don't be defensive. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was actually doing this for a reason because Simon might
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: have a question about long shots, and I think it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: interesting that you have Ryan Fox at one hundred and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: thirty to one at number ten, before Rory McElroy at
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: fifteen to one at number eleven, or Justin Thomas at
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: fifty to one number twelve. So I was teeing up
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: my friend Simon by using your very good content to
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, chat its me so well, Jason, I just want
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: long shots.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I'm here.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I love Brooks. That was incredible what we've seen, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I want crazy long shots. I would love to hear
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: who you like for the long shots because I'm addicted
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: to it. I think it was Hideki who I head on?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: What was it two years ago?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Now? Was that the Masters he won.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: That was one of those where it's like, all right,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: if I can get fifty to one and a guy
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: like a decy, I need to form more, find more
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: diamonds than a rough. So I'm addicted to it. Who's
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: your favorite long shot for the US Open this year?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Ers, Well, Simon, you're talking to a guy who's hit
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Emiliano Grillo and Nick Taylor as long shots into the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: last three weeks. In between, I had Victor Hovlin but
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: and he won, but he was It's been three in
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: a row. So thank you want to point that out, Yes,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: you're welcome. That said, when you're looking at long shots,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's interesting in golf because there are long
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: shots who have win equity, and then there are long
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: shots who I think can finish in the top ten
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: make nice top ten props. Ryan Thok is a guy
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I really like this week. I think he's gonna play
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: some really good golf. Can he win a US Open?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that he's ready to do that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Even though he's been around for a long time, he's
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: won all over the world. I just don't think that
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: he's gonna win. But I love him for top ten props.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: As far as long shots that can win, I mentioned
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Patrick Reid already. We know he can win a major championship.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I think his price is much too long in the marketplace.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I would have priced him at somewhere in the sixty
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: to sixty five to one range. Instead, he's trading at
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: about eighty to one right now, So I think that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: a really nice price right around that number, and maybe
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: even eighty five. Ninety to one is Seawu Kim. Seawau
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Kim is a guy we've always known has a very
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: high ceiling, but one that doesn't know what he's rear
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: its head because he'll win and then he'll go away
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: for a year or so where he can that it's
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: a bottomless floor. And so when he's not winning, he's
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: shooting seventy nine's and missing the cut. He is That
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: has changed over the past year. He's now made eighteen
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: of twenty one cuts. This season, he's been top seven
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: and three of his last six starts. We know the
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: ceiling is still there, the floor has been elevated. What
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I always say about outright long shot plays is look
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: if they finished second or they finished one hundred and
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: fifty six you lose the same amount of money. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: want a guy who has that high ceiling is a
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: long shot and can win. I think Seawoo Kim gives
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you that ceiling this week.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I do want to read you right up for Ryan
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Fox because it is just funny. This is when an
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: NFL team reaches for a third round projection in the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: middle of the first round, and all the pundits are
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: like whoa, and then the guy turns out to be
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a very functional key player for a long time. It's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a very good way to get me excited about Ryan Fox.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Not just now, but you know at the Travelers or
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: something where they say some guys are taking the week
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: off and Ryan Fox comes in and you know he
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: tears the place up.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Very well, could happen, Ryan Fox. The only thing that
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: has really broken his stride this year was the week
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: after the Masters played. His first Masters played pretty well.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: He's finished top thirty and nine of his last ten starts.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: After the Masters, he got pneumonia. So he went home,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I believe, back to New Zealand where he's from. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: then his wife had a second kid, and so I'm
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: hoping and I talked to him about it. I was like,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: was the pneumonia gone before the kid arrived. He's like, yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I think I was okay. So I mean everything is
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: okay in the Fox household. But in all seriousness, just
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: got his full PGA Tour member. He had to play
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: his way onto the PGA Tour this year. He was
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: able to do that. He's got a family at home
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: where he's got a young baby that you know, there's
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: been a lot of they call it the nappy factor,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: where right after a golfer has a kid or a
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: second kid, all of a sudden, it's like, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: this weightlifted and they start playing better golf. I don't
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: discredit that. And so there's a lot of sort of
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: weightlifted from his shoulder, and it feels like a little
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: bit of a free role for him. Not to go
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: too deep on Ryan Fox, but I like players when
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: essentially they're not they're not playing with pressure on them.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: They're playing with this nothing to lose attitude, because hey,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: all all I can do is win some more. I
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: you know, nothing's gonna happen that's gonna hurt my career
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Listen, by the way, it's not called a weight being lifted.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: It's called Holy fuck, I got a kid and I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: gotta make a living.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: That's that's what that is.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Ryan Fox a shout out to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: my buddy Josh and Chicago, who is on a tear
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: as a golf better and like every week he's texting
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: me like his breakdowns and his legal pads of who
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: he's betting on and the long shots, and he loves
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: betting on golf. And Ryan Fox feels like the kind
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of golfer my buddy Josh is going to go in on.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Sob I want to let you get back to work,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: go and go and get listen. I know you got
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a reservation to Dan Tana's. You got to get to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Dan Tana's corner table.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Is it good? We went past there yesterday. Is it
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: worth going Tana's.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: It's like you go, you go for the vibe. Man.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It is like stepping into you're talking about when you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: talking about lacc and walking around and seeing the Beverly Hilton,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like you walk into Dantanna's and you feel like you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: are stepping into Hollywood glamour. It just I don't even
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: remember the food. It's just a good vibe.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you and First of all, I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: going to thank you because you're picking up dinner tonight.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I'm going out with Corner, Raybon and Trebby for dinner tonight,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: so I appreciate it. Juys, thank you that well.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Go to Dantanas, have a good time. Maybe someone will
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: be listening to the podcast and they'll buy you a drink,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: which just happened to me and Simon before. But that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is a dangerous crew. All I can tell you right now, Trebby,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: who just had a second kid, and yourself, you are
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: not going to last all night with Corner or Raybon,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and you don't want to know where they're going after d'antana's.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up though, all right, from what I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: can From what I can see, you're like Cam Smith,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You like Jordan Speith, we might like Seewoo Kim is
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a long shot. We might like Patrick Reid is a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: long shot.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Correct. The one other player that I have bet in
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: all full disclosure, I've bet those four already, and I
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: put a little on Tony Feenow at forty to one.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Tony Fenau was my guy about six months ago, before
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I knew much about this golf course. He just fit
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: the recent profile of US Open champions, big strong guy
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you look at. This used to be the major championship
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: that the Corey Pavins, the Jim Fuoricks, when the Lee
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Jansens could win, the short guys were accurate, kept it
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: in the fairway and on the greens. Over the last
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: seven or eight years, it's brooks Kepta, Dustin Johnson, Bryson, Deshambo,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: John Rahm, Gary Woodland. Even last year Matt Fitzpatrick. Not
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: a big dude. He looks like he's twelve years old,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: but a guy that had gained a lot of swing speed,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: had gained some power going into that US Open. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: so I don't think we're gonna see the same US Open.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: It's just not the same setup that we've seen over
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the last seven or eight years. But Tony Fow fits
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: the profile of guys we've recently seen win US Opens,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: just because at the beginning of the year I was
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: saying Tony Fenw even he's dropped a little bit in
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: my ranking, but I don't want to get off of
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: him because I've been on him for so long.
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• 32:05
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• 32:12
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• 32:15
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• 32:27
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• 32:50
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• 32:53
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• 33:14
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• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that all credit goes to you
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: once again, of course, and you begging for a hockey
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• 33:31
  Speaker 5: So you were right on both fronts.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I've got my finger on the pulse of what the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: audience wants.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. And you know what I think they
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: want right now is a little Ashes talk for me
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: and Simon. We've got Crickets Crickets Best competition coming up.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: It's an Ashes summer and Simon's native England. That's why
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: I'm dressed like I am. I'm pulling for Australia. I'll
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: be betting on Australia. They looked great.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Can you explain to people before we before every already
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: just disengaged from the podcast because we're going to go
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: from Test cricket to darts and NHL and when NHL
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: is like Big three your anchor leg you know you're
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: starting off with stuff that nobody gives a fuck about.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But let's explain to people what you are wearing if
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: they're not watching us on the YouTube.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I've got my West Indies Cricket hat on
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: which you know it's not I'm pulling for Australia. But
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I like to put West Indies in India in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: same bucket as Australia because they all want to beat
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: England because Simon's England. They colonized all these places and
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: cricket was a way for them to beat their colonizers
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: at something. That's why these countries all play cricket. And
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: the Ashes is England and Australia. It's every other year.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: So the last one was in Australia in the Australian summer,
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: so December twenty twenty one that would be in Australia
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: just absolutely kicked England's ass. It was not close at all. Well,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: but I mean it's different style cricket there because it's dry.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: In England it's wet and the conditions changed. So it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: about a pick them and just remember like this is
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: five Test matches, so five five day matches and whoever
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: comes out on top gets to take home and earn
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: which is the trophy. I'm not kidding. It's like this big,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: that's the size of your hand. That it's like the
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: opposite of the Stanley Cup. Like if you put the
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Ashes next to the Stanley Cup, it would be hilarious.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: And the reason it's called the Ashes is because in
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: the eighteen eighties an Australian writer, Australia beat England in
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: a Test match and he said that the body of
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: England cricket has been killed and the body has been
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: cremated and the ashes have been sent back to Australia
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: and that's how this whole thing came about. And it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: the most it's the most bizarre sport to watch because
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: nothing happens until something happens. It's like a court case
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: just unfolding on grass and it's about who can cheat
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: like a little bit better and everyone's hammered in the stands.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: It's it's gonna be a lot of fun in and
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: I hope everybody now now watches it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: But it goes on for seven days. That's the key
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to cricket.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Five days, Yeah, five five days, five different times. So
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: it's it starts Friday and then it'll end July thirty first.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Now, Lee Loft, do you know what the most famous
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: cricket movie is in America?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: No days?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: That confused with that battle?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just because of the paddle.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: That's that's as far as America goes with cricket is
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: young kids can smack in the ass with cricket battles.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: You know, earlier today I was talking to a buddy.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: And you have no friends, Chad, I got one, it's.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: My only friend left. And he was asking me something
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: about betting, and I actually used Lee Buff as the example,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Like there is a personality that is almost they are
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: so angry at anybody liking anything that is mainstream but
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: has no quirkiness, no character, no real emotional value. So
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: they go to the extreme end to things like betting
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: hockey or betting golf, or betting darts or betting cricket
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and immerse themselves in it so much. And I need
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to know now that we have Lebuff on the podcast,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: and I'd forgotten he was coming on today, that where
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: does that come from? Like like why cricket instead of football?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Why darts instead of NBA?
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's just more you said it, It's like
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: a got more quirk to it. There's more substance to
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: something that has these kind of insane history to it,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: rather than you know, just here's here's a team that
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: was invented. They're the Philadelphia Eagles. Why like it's just
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: because well, there's a big city in Philadelphia they needed
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: a football team, and here's how they came about, like
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Manchester United, and meant like I'm a huge soccer fan too,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Like these clubs came up because they were either you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: a factory worker and their off day was Wednesday.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: There's a big city in England called Sheffield and one
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: club is Sheffield United and they played on Sundays and
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the other team was Sheffield Wednesdays because those guys had
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: off on Wednesday, so they would play their soccer on Wednesday.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: So those kind of stories you learn through and I
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: want to keep going and learning more about those stories
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: rather than you know, hearing about Aaron Rodgers mundanely for
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty five days a year. I don't
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: really give a shit what Aaron Rodgers is doing on
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: like a Tuesday morning in New York City, but I
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: would love to hear like about you know how why
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: the biggest trophy in test cricket is this little earn.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: And the way I start learning about these sports is
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: betting on them, because you throw five bucks on a
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: game and you're invested and you're watching and then the
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: next thing you know, you're doing it again, and you're
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: learning more and more and more, and the next thing
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: you know, you're you're geeked up for the Ashes more
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: than you are for Game five of the NBA Finals
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: or whatever happened last night Game six.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Well easy transition from Sheffield United who's been around for
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: what one hundred and fifty years to a Las Vegas
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Knights who've been around for I don't know five years.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is pretty crazy in the
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: hockey world. I would love to get your view on this,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the fact that we had a Panthers Vegas Finals and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: it's been really good. I mean, honestly, I've really enjoyed
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: these games. So I would love to know your view
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: on just you know, what hockey is, right, we always
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: talk about I mean, I guess you could say the
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: same with NBA. It's like, if it's not the I,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it's not the original six and hockey, who really cares, right,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the whole knock in hockey where
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, people stick their nose up with
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: these new franchises. And I'll admit I hate Vegas, especially
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: as a hockey fan. I hate this team came in.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: They cherry picked all these players from these different teams
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: and here they are. Is I mean, dude, they are
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: so dominant, so good. Their goalie hill has been unreal
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: in these finals. Just I mean, just looking at this,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: we're three to one in. Is there any hope for
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Florida Panthers or are they just lucky to be here? Because again,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: they're the AEC. I know in hockey doesn't matter as much,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: but you can really see the difference in talent level
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: between them in Vegas. I mean, Vegas just looks just
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: so complete. They don't have a weakness on their team.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Their defense is good, they're I mean, their offense is incredible.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Are we literally seeing a team the birth of a
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: dynasty or is this a one hit wonder for Vegas?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: And you know they should enjoy this three to one
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: lead they have right now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll be good.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I think they're like fourteen or sixteen to one to
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: win the Stanley Cup next year on the early looks
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: so uh, but they they're Their salary caps structures is bizarre.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: They always just kind of trade, you know, kick the
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: can down the road and and bring in players that
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: can help them immediate in the immediate uh term, rather
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: than worry about anything in the future. And it's got
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: them here. This is their second Stanley Cup final in
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: six years. And yeah, but I go back and forth
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: on at the NHL when they expanded in Vegas, they
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: set the expansion draft up in a way that it
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: wasn't just gonna, you know, make them terrible if it
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: felt like in years past when.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: So they wanted Vegas to be good.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: It felt like they but I mean they did it
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: with Seattle too, was the same rules, and they just
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: didn't want these expansion markets. Like the NHL needs to
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: succeed in new markets. It's it's not like the NFL,
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: right like where if the NFL opened, uh you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: they put a team in acron Ohio, like that team
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: would be fine because they're in the NFL, Like they
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: got the NFL shield to protect them, the same in
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: the NHL. So they went with a different strategy and
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: it's worked. The Vegas fan base is awesome, The experience
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: is great, So they're good. To answer your question, they're good.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: I think Florida is always going to be live because
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: it's a it's hockey be the team's done it before
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: to a better team, to Boston in Round one. But
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: they do seem a little walking wounded in Matthew Kachuck.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Sounds like his shoulder is separated, and so if he
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: does play, he's going to be playing on one arm.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And he's their best player, one of the best players
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: in the league, so losing him is a big deal.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: I do like Florida tonight, though from a betting standpoint.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: You look at the last time these two teams played
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: in Vegas, which was Game two eight days ago. The
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: line closed minus one thirty five ish. It's minus two
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: hundred right now. I don't think that, you know, any
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: hockey player is worth sixty five cents to a betting line.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: He's not, you know, some terrific quarterback for LSU or
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: something right like, this is an NHL player. This is
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: not a situation like that. So I think it's a
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: little bit of an overreaction. So I'll be betting Florida,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: putting together a little same game lottery ticket parlay to
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: just in case it is the last game of the season.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: You got to go out with a bang, maybe win
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: some some scratch, use that scratch to head over to England.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Check out check out one of the test matches quickly.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: What will your your same game parlay B? But then
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I have a follow up.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Sure three goal scorers. Michael Amadio on Vegas, he's like
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: plus four sixty, Anton Lindell on Florida he's five plus
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: five fifty, and Alex Petrangelo on Vegas he's seven to one.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: I think they're all They're all worth it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Simon just made.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: All those bets, honestly did.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: What's interesting, it's interesting to me that Simon is anti Vegas.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I actually love that Vegas got so good so fast,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and I think it's one of the few things the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: NHL has done right is making them being self aware
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: enough to know we better make sure these expansion teams
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Vegas Seattle are good fast, because fans will not have
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: patience and will they will spend their money elsewhere, and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: those stadiums will sit empty. And I think what Vegas
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: did with the Golden Knights, help get the Raiders there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: help get the A's there. It turned that town into
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a sports town that felt like the locals could rally.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're taking the Raiders the same way
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: they are the Golden Knights because of you know, the relocation.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: The Golden Knights an original team. But I love the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: way the NHL handle it. I love the fact that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Golden Knights have been good. I love the way Vegas
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: has embraced them. We've off the NHL did something right here.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Well, Vegas is a town that appreciates quirk too, right,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Like there's whim to hockey, there's today.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: The time I go into a sports book, half the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: screens are on test matches. That's how much they appreciate quirk.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you get there early enough, they will be
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: this coming week and we'll be pulling for those Aussies.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: What can you tell us about?
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: So you think Floor is going to win tonight? You
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: put in your same game parlay of goal scorers. What
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: should we be looking for for the NHL draft, where
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I believe the Chicago Blackhawks have the number one overall pick.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, chatt as a black Hawks. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: you can be happy for Vegas. You got your cup
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: whatever is it ten years ago against my Flyers, three
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: of them, three of them cups.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I'm bitter.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I'm bitter, all right, Yeah, I got freaking Danny Breer
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: running my team. I don't know what the hell is
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: going on to Flyers, but it's.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Not he's got a He's got the right idea with
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: that team, though I think, yeah, oh boy, yeah, Son
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: wasn't good. But the the NHL draft we were talking
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: about before, right, Chad, Yeah, you want to talk like
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: I Those poor Blackhawks fans three Stanley Cups in a decade,
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: then have to endure two tough seasons and now they
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: get the the next Connor McDavid serious. Meanwhile, the one
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: year in the Islanders when the lottery, the guy that
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: they pick just abandoned ship gone. When the going gets tough,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: John Tavares gets going somewhere else. The uh yeah, the
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: draft will be fun. It's always fun to bet. Last
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: year I hit an eighteen to one winner on the
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: second overall pick with with our our great buddy, great
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: New Jersey pison, Steve Petrella. He the two of us
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: hit Simon Lemich to New Jersey because we knew that
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: if Montreal picked the guy they eventually picked, which was
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: you're a Slkowski, the Devils wouldn't take a center, They'd
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: probably take a defenseman. And he was severely underrated by
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: the sports books, and that's what we'll look for here.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: So this is going to sound nuts, but the key
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: to betting this NHL draft, because we know that Badard
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: is going to go to your beloved Blackhawks first is
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out where Matt fi Mitchikov. He's this
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: little Russian star, but we don't know if he's coming over,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: when he's coming over, if his dad was found dead
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: in a pond. I'm not kidding a few months ago.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: So whenever, yeah, whatever, whenever you're dealing with rush, it's
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: things get a little interesting. So a lot of teams,
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: he's I think considered the second most talented player in
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: the draft class, but there's so much risk to picking up,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: so using him as kind of the wild card is
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: how you want to bet the draft. And I think
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: that the team he he's going to end up going
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: to with San Jose in the fourth spot, but that's
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: not the bet I'm gonna make. The bet I'm gonna
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: make is kind of based off that it's Leo Carlson.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: He should be double digits at the very least to
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: go fifth overall to Montreal. They need a center. Carlson
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: is projected by most most mock drafts to go second
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: to Columbus, but I think that they're actually going to
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: end up picking an American center, Will Smith, excuse me,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: third to Columbus after Adam finn Tilly goes to Anaheim.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: That seems like a certainty, so it'll be Dard Fantilly
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: and then most people expect Carlson to go third to Columbus,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: but I actually think that they'll end up going with
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: the more finished product, which is this guy Will Smith,
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: because Columbus wants to compete next year. I don't think
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: they want to spend another year developing players, which means
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: that Mitch Cobb and Carlson will go four or five
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: in some combination. And I'm going to bet that San
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Jose is the team that will embrace the risk of
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: taking Mitch Cob at four because they're still in the
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: process of tearing things down and can be patient with
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: a player like that. So that lands me on Leo
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Carlson to Les Habitants at the fifth overall pick. It
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: should be a good number, so when those start to
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: pop up more widespread, that that'd be the bet I'd
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: hop on.
• 49:19
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• 49:21
  Speaker 1: we need to cover for the NHL until line change.
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