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MMA BANTAMWEIGHT- JOSE "NANO" HERNANDEZ · Caught on the Mike...

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  SPEAKER_01: Disclaimer, the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Listener discretion is advised.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, this is caught on the mic.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, I have taken a few weeks off from podcasting, and I'm super excited to be back with an MMA episode right from the gate.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am speaking with my new friend Jose Hernandez.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is a bantamweight fighter based out of Kearney, Nebraska.
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  SPEAKER_01: His next fight is August 9th in Omaha, Nebraska at Liberty First Credit Union Arena for Dynasty Combat Sports.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm super excited about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Things were hot and tense when he got faced off against his opponent at the last event.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of excitement.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Jose, how the heck are you, man?
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing great.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me on, man.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: Doing great.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thanks for doing it, man.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: Henry kind of mentioned to me he brought your name up and he said you'd be a fantastic guest.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I kind of started perusing your history, your topology page.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kind of looked at some clips online and I'm like, hell yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Connect us.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: So without any further ado, man, why don't you introduce yourself and let's talk about your origin story.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, Jose Hernandez, they call me Nano.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: I've been called Nano since I was a little kid.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I got into fighting when I was 21, is when I started in Gary, Nebraska.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I I joined it just so I could lose weight.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was a chubby dude.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was lifting a lot, but I was just a chubby guy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And one of my friends, his name is Joey Munoz.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's been fighting for a long time, and he's like, dude, just come to the gym.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, all right.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, after saying no so many times, I was like, Yeah, I'll I'll I'll come back.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it was like probably six months into it or so, and my coach was just uh just telling me that there's a possible fight in the hometown, and it was gonna be in Mitchell, Nebraska, I guess.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_02: But it was for Scott's love.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Do you want to do it?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Yeah, sure, why not?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fought, I lost, but I loved it.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: It man, I was addicted.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that feeling of being in there and that rush and people cheering.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, I came to Carney and I I've been living here since 2016.
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  SPEAKER_02: I took like a two-year break, but you know, I ran into Richard Barajos, my coach and the owner of Cardi Combat Sports.
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  SPEAKER_02: I ran into him and it's been you know game changing.
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  SPEAKER_02: The guy is obsessed with MMA and his coaching and stuff just reflects that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You see it, all the fighters come out at Cardi Combat Sports, and you know, we're known for putting out some talent.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, just try to come back now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh it's it's funny, you mentioned that your very first fight uh was a loss, and I think not a lot of people understand that most fighters don't learn anything from winning all the time.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they learn the most from that first loss, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And having that right out of the gate, how did that redefine you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because you still you said you were still addicted to the sport even after that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how did that redefine you personally and kind of change your trajectory as far as what you wanted to do as being a fighter?
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you know, I've always been pretty humble in any kind of sport that I did, but even more so, like it it it really humbled me, and I just couldn't stay out of the gym.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh right after the loss, I was just right back into the gym, I think like that next Monday, you know, and I ended up training by myself pretty much because I couldn't find a gym from my first fight to my second fight.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was just nonstop in the gym, just watching videos, trying to you know, learn from that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I finally found Rich and he kind of just fed into that that hunger and it just took off from there.
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  SPEAKER_02: My second fight, I got a knockout, and yeah, he's just putting in the work.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was never a really uh uh over overly talented guy.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was never, you know, I was always average with everything that I did, but with this, I've I feel like this is the best thing that I could do right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that, man.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a little known fact that you didn't mention yet is you're also now an instructor and a coach for youth wrestling as well through Carney Combat Sports.
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  SPEAKER_01: How has that changed your trajectory?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, it gives me more goals.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like before it was um getting to the UFC, the basic, you know, cliche.
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  SPEAKER_02: I gotta get to the UFC, I want to be a UFC champion.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, now I want to make UFC champions.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to make, you know, uh uh national titles and you know, with kids and stuff like that.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh those kids are awesome, and I look forward to practice every day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I could have the worst day, and those kids just man, they bring the best out of you.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I guess uh just my purpose in life, it's it's changed that.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh that's fantastic, and that's something you and I share a kinship with.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: I know for my day job, which I never talk about on the show, um people ask me what my purpose is in my day job, and my response generally is to create future leaders for my company.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not to train people that for the job that they've got, it's training them for the next job down the line.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're in that job because you've already done all the skill sets and executed all the skill sets you needed to get that job.
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  SPEAKER_01: My goal is to train you for the next step.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I love the fact that we kind of share that mindset.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you've had the privilege of fighting for LFA.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: You hold the Bantamweight title for FAC based out of Kansas City.
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  SPEAKER_01: You fought with Dynasty Combat Sports, you mentioned the UFC.
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  SPEAKER_01: What is the pathway to the UFC or a PFL or a Bellator look like for you?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's just uh climbing the ladder.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: I would say it's uh every fight, I just take it as a stepping stone.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really think of it as how would you say, like, I don't think of it as a like a make it or break it, you know.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like my last fight for LFA, and my last fight in general was for LFA, and you know, it was the main event in LFA on UFC Fight Pass.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I lost, but you know, fighting in that kind of stage, it was just another stepping stone, and that's all I gotta keep doing is just climb the ladder as as fast as I can, I guess.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: But if it's gonna take time, you know, just keep waiting, keep working.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's uh that brings up a good point because we talked about lessons learned from losses, but when you're looking at things on paper, how important are wins and losses when you're trying to forge that pathway to a major promotion and a contract with a major promotion?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you think they matter as much as being entertaining and being somebody that a crowd can engage with?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I definitely think it matters.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, um you look at the UFC roster and you see uh the main events or just the main card, there's not that many losses on that side, you know, like it's like 20 and 5 or something.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: There's not that many losses.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, and just in general, even the prelims and stuff, there's a bunch of guys that are 8-0, 10 and 0, you know, 7-1, all this kind of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they definitely want to hire the the individuals with you know the the best accolades.
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  SPEAKER_02: So losses are super important, but I mean if you can make a fight pretty entertaining, I don't see why someone wouldn't want to sign that.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what I I always want to win, obviously, but if I can't win, you're gonna have to put me to sleep to quit because I'm I'm not I'm not going out like that.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: So who are some fighters that inspire you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Who are some guys that you like to watch that kind of fuel your momentum?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because obviously, if you're really um aggressive in pursuing your fight career, you're obviously a fight fan yourself as well.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so who are some people that you keep your eyes on that say, you know, I can kind of learn from what their trajectory was like.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, when I first started fighting, and it's even now he he doesn't fight anymore, but it was BJ Penn.
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  SPEAKER_02: BJ Penn, I was uh obsessed with that guy, and you know, I was a chubier guy when I first started too, and uh I would always tell my coach, I'm like, I don't I don't need abs to be you know keeping up with these guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm five.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, but look at the best athletes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, look at BJ Penn.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you know, he's he's got it right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I've always been a fan of him and just his mentality, you know.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was uh it was just a fierce mentality.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like he he was a dog.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um later on the line, I fell in love with Dominic Cruz's footwork and the way he throws and stuff like that.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: And TJ Dillishaw, he's up there too.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: But right now, I would say, you know, Max Holloway is probably one of my favorites.
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  SPEAKER_02: That guy just has a good attitude, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Win or win or lose, he's got a great attitude.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's funny you say that because I was thinking about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was walking around the other day at work and I was thinking, who are my favorite fighters currently?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I could name three, and it's Max Holiday, how Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, and um Justin Gagey.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: I knew you were gonna say those.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard not to like them.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right, absolutely.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Win or lose, they win gracefully, they lose gracefully, and they always put on very entertaining fights.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: Very entertaining, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there's and there's hardly any controversy that's around them either.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, everyone knows about them.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Why just because you know, and they don't have the best records right now.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they lost they've lost a few.
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  SPEAKER_02: And everyone, when they're fighting, you're tuning in.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're you're watching that, and you're gonna spend your Saturday night doing that.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so have you had the privilege of interacting with somebody that's had a major contract in the UFC that has maybe kind of changed your mentality on how you want to pursue your career?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, not necessarily.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I do want to fight for uh LFA a lot more.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I I just I really do like it, you know.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: And um my friend and old training partner, Richie Miranda, he's kind of blowing up right now, and he's been fighting for LFA for a while.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: And man, you just yeah, I try to follow in those footsteps too.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: He I brought him out to you know his first fight.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: He never mentions me in the in a podcast, so I always gotta call him out on that.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: But I'll mention him.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he uh I got him into his first fight pretty much, and uh he took off when I took my two years, two years off, two years off.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: He took off, and I just saw it and I'm like, yeah, I gotta I gotta get back in there.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta yeah, this guy, this guy's doing it right.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: I bring it up several times and through several episodes of my show about why some of my favorite guests are fighters, because I I interview all walks of life, right?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I've had musicians, I've had paranormal experts, I've had actors, actresses, but I always circle back to MMA.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And it's pretty much the only sport that I focus on on my show, and that's because I love the fighters' journey.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: I love the fighter's story.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: What is it that you feel defines a fighter and a fighter's story more than an average Joe?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I would say like the things that we're willing to willing to um sacrifice.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, I sacrifice a lot of time away from my family.
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  SPEAKER_02: I used to visit them once or twice a month, and right now it's it's been like once or twice every you know, three or four months, every six months.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm a big family person.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got nieces and nephews that are in wrestling, so you know, I always want to be there and help them through that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I would say sacrifice is like the biggest difference.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's a lot of people out there that won't even sacrifice like uh a day off from the lifting weights, you know, to to go or sacrifice, you know, hanging out with your girlfriend to go lift weights, you know.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: So for me, yeah, I've pretty much given everything I have in this sport, and there's not a lot of people that can say that.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with that.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think when you look at everything from a pragmatic perspective, you look at things like weight cut, diet, training to fight, keeping your physical conditioning going.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is a full-time job in and of itself.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: How has your fighting career, if you don't mind me asking, impacted your personal life outside of just not seeing your family?
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, so I knew I was always okay, so to start this off, I knew I was always a pretty talented, you know, fighter from the get-go as I started, you know, catching on to things pretty quick.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I was always drinking though, like after the fights, I'd be drinking and just getting messed up all night.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: And uh you know, then I was a dangerous fighter, and you know, no one wanted to fight me then really.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I got I've been sober, I'm gonna go on about three years now, ever since I started back up and uh got my diet in in check, and so then I was a dangerous fighter.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Now like everyone's catching like a healthy, you know, ready to go, always in shape uh Jose, and they're not gonna like it.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: I what's funny is um I've had this conversation with a lot of my friends, and of course, you know, we're a little bit older, we have teenagers now, and we talk about how teenagers don't do the same things now that we used to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I've I've got I've you know, I've got teenage girls, and I'm I'm dreadfully fearful that they're gonna be out at parties drinking, and this uh this is going on and that's going on.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: But what's funny is I talk to them and I probe them, and I'm a smart enough guy, man.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: There there's nothing that you're gonna tell me that you've done that I haven't done myself.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I find out that they're at their friend's house making fucking slime on a Friday night whenever, you know, when we would have been out in the cornfields drinking and yeah, and getting crazy, right?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I say all of that because I do feel that society at large is moving towards a healthier lifestyle, and things like you know, alcohol and such are kind of becoming secondary.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: So overall, is that something you're noticing more and more of in the fight world?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I think so.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: And uh um one thing that I'm saying a lot more of too is a lot of fighters are you know being open about being sober and stuff like that.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so you see these younger athletes and that they want to be like them and they want everything that they have, and obviously they have to, you know, they start seeing that they have to sacrifice their party nights and all that kind of thing, you know.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so yeah, I I definitely think yeah, it's changing.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, there's there's a lot of psychological correlation now between um just general alcohol consumption, it's not even a matter of alcoholism and things like anxiety and sleep deprivation and long-term psychological disorders, which are just kind of like duh, obvious things, but even with my own health journey, I think the last time I really drank socially at all was like 2018.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it was yeah, yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it was and it and it's not because I had any sort of addiction or any kind of hangups, but it it's it kind of falls in line with what you were saying.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's like getting a better focus on your life, you know?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I my life has done a complete flip.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'll rent I uh went home um just this past weekend and got to see a you know a bunch of my friends and stuff like that, but or old friends, and people don't even recognize me anymore.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I just don't look the same, like the same person.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, good, like that dude's in the past, and don't ever bring him up.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Man, that guy was a bad person.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: I never want to be like that.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Love it, love it.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about this fight, August 9th.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: As I mentioned in the intro, there was a pretty heated face-off at the last dynasty combat sports event between you and Ashton Caniglia.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I even asked you how how legit is this beef and what does it stem from?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let's let's talk about it.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, it's pretty legit.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, so I I we had that face off, and you know, like usually we get pretty close and stuff, so I'll make it look good for the pictures.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I'm not gonna do anything, whatever, you know, and it got super close.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I like that.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Ashison.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you're like that dude, but I'm not for that another guy.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: So had to get him out of my face.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I was pretty pissed about the whole I you know, I did.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: I need him in the face when he was down, he was going in for a shot, and he complained and wrote his email and he took my wit away.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so now four, two, and one, and I hate seeing that one no contest.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, um so yeah, pretty legit, I would say.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: So that happened what, October 23, 2023, when that happened?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: It happened in Carney, didn't it?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: So just for my listeners' clarity, let's kind of backtrack a little bit and let's talk about that fight and kind of what led to that, just to clarify exactly what happened with Ashton at the last fight.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, for sure.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um well, first round, he was trying to do what he was always trying to do to everybody, trying to hold them on the cage and whatnot, and you know, me just working through it, trying to figure out the solution to whatever he's trying to do.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I was I you know, I thought I was piecing him up pretty good.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: He got me with one slam, couldn't hold me down, and um at the end of the first round, it was still about to start getting pretty ugly, I thought.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so I kind of coasted a little bit, and you know, I was just trying to get a feel for where what his next move was, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: And second round, I was just like, alright, I gotta put this dude out.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I I thought it was pretty favorite, my side to his side, and uh I hit him with a uh left uppercut and then a right hook, and that like dropped him, and he started going down, and then he was gonna dive at my legs to take a shot, and I was already throwing my knee because I thought he was gonna like get off his knees to shoot.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: And no, he stayed on that one knee, I hit him, and the rep didn't pull me off.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mounted him and I just started finishing him.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, in short, you the night of the fight, you got the win, but that win was contested and taken away and marked as a no contest on your record now.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, correct, yeah.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: So he Wrote an email and uh they ended up overturning it.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just looking at my stats one day and I just saw it said no contest, and I was like, because it used to say uh five and two or five and one at the time.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: So they didn't even notify you that they were changing your record.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: You had to find that out from a stat sheet.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just literally just Googling my name and I don't know pretty vain to Google your own name, but I I do it all the time, bro.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: But I had seen it before because I wanted to see the five and one, and it had when it first came up, it said five and one.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then I looked at it, I don't know, maybe a few weeks later just to see where my rankings were, and uh there it was four and one, four-one and one at the time I think it was.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, that that got me pretty heated, and I sent it to my coach and he's like, Are you kidding me?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, There's no way.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like so yeah, I mean, I didn't even know.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: So did you have any I I don't want to use the word fears, but did you have any fears that he wouldn't want to do a rematch because uh of that challenge?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean like uh I said before, uh everything's just been a s a stepping stone.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: So if the stars aligned and that was gonna happen, yeah, let's do it.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I I called him out on social media about it, about him being a big baby pretty much, you know, and complaining about it.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, after I was like, you know what, if he doesn't want to take it, then you know that's on him.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: He's you know, his his word against my word of like who won that fight, you just watch the video.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: So if I was gonna move past it, then we move past past it.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: But after that last fight, they offered me this one, and I was like, Yeah, I think that's uh no question.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's do it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that gives people a little bit of a backstory to help them look forward to the August 9th event at Liberty Liberty First Credit Union Arena in Omaha, Nebraska for Dynasty Combat Sports.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: See what I did there.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: I did that little plug for the whole thing.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty good.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sneaky, sneaky, sneaky.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: What can fans expect by coming to see you fight that night?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, to be honest, I'm just gonna do the same thing, but just a lot worse and a lot faster.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I wanna put a stamp on it and make sure no one has any question about who's better.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because in my in my eyes, this guy shouldn't even be in the same rankings at me, he shouldn't even be on my path anymore.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: I should be past him.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: And he just jumped the gun and got in my path, got in my way again.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I gotta get him out of the way just to keep climbing that ladder.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: So that leads to a really good next question, and that is what is your six-month plan, one-year plan, two-year plan for your MMA career?
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you had to define it.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: If I hadn't defined it.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: So you get six months.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to have three or four more wins, you know, and be healthy the next year.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: I want obviously I want to be in the UFC and I feel like it's just right there, it's just scratching at the door.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, that'd be a great plan.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then ten-year, five-year plan, you know, that's hard, but obviously I want to not just do this for myself, I want to be able to grow our gym.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I want to make to the UFC so then people can see we're doing things right, and then start, you know, coaching the next lineup.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh being the being uh or being the best fighter was always a goal, but now it's you know, being the best coach too.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we uh I have a bunch of I can say kids now, you know, way younger than I am, and I can see it, I can see the fire in their eyes, and um, I want to be part of their journey too.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I love that, man.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: That is fantastic.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: I he am here in Lincoln.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was just on Kearney Combat Sports website before we jumped on this uh this conversation, and uh the facility looks impressive.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: I might have to make the afternoon drive to Kearney and come see you guys in person.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we started, you know, we started in 2016.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Richard he had started in uh a taekwondo gym.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's called Bennett's Taekwondo.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: And Mats were horrible.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: We'd always get like Matt Burn, and eventually we moved into uh a place called Quintana Boxing, and we're just in uh the back part of it.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: We had just so if you look at the page now, there's four squares.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Richard Richard just started with one square, and we're making the best out of it, you know, and then we moved again, and it was like pretty close to the size that we have now, but we just didn't have as much mat space, and then now we got he has this place, and yeah, he's everything that he gets, he just pours it into the gym.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Love that.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I respect a hell out of that man.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: He's cool.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: So uh are you guys kind of affiliated as a fight team, so to speak, from Carney Combat Sports?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, we it's just Carney Combat Sports, but we have like uh standards and um well standards for people to join our fight team.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: But really, it's just so uh we have our more experienced uh and people that want to take it serious and actually want to, you know, pursue it as a career.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: We just separate the classes from you know card combat sports.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: But it we're all still carried combat sports, yeah.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's one of those things where I've you know I've gone to quite a few dynasty events now and I'm kind of starting to delineate who's who and and kind of starting to see a lot of familiar faces.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh one of your teammates, Brielle, had an amazing showing at that last event.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: That was awesome.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, on to be honest with you, if I had to call it, you know, I know everybody was uh everybody was a little bit distracted by who was in the building that night.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Jamal Hill was in the building, just so everybody knows.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: But uh everybody was distracted a little bit by that, but that girls fight was probably the best fight of the whole night, in my personal opinion.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we kept saying too.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: And before Brielle sees this and gets mad, Brielle's actually my girlfriend.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: So love it!
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: You just let her just gonna let him call you call me your friend.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's amazing.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's even better.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: So now she's gotta come on and do the show, too.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: She'd love that.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I honestly, I was sitting there in my seat after the the fight got done.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: She follows me on Instagram, she was the first person I messaged.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, that was one hell of a fight.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: Impressive showing.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Heck yeah.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: So that's awesome.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: So that's awesome, dude.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: That is fantastic.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: So, given everything that you've experienced, fighting career and not, this is my closing question that I ask every single guest that's on my show, no matter what walk of life they come from.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I think this it kind of goes to a point right now where we've had a lot of craziness happen in the last week socio-politically.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe this question is a little bit more important now than ever.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, so that's I for me, that's a pretty easy question uh uh to answer now, and that's just to follow Christ and put all your faith in God.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: I found Christ not too long ago, and it's completely changed my life again.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: God is good.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Love that, man.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Love that.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: I I respect people of faith.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: I have two rules on my podcast that I don't talk politics and I don't talk religion, but I love everybody being genuinely themselves.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's awesome.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I feel is like makes the world a better place is you just let people find the path that brings them the most love in their life and in their heart.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, that's awesome, dude.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot easier to love than to hate.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: So for sure, for sure.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, brother, I am excited.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm planning on being there August 9th.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: Can't wait to run into you in the real world.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we're friends now, man.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: This has been awesome.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: I loved it.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: The world's a much better place with you in it, my friend.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it likewise.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about you guys, but hearing all of that makes me so much more excited for August 9th at Liberty First Credit Union Arena in Omaha, Nebraska.
• 31:24
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• 31:26
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• 31:51
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• 31:56
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• 32:01
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• 32:08
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• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's been caught on the mic with Michael Flarten.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Michael Flarten until next time.